As someone who didn't bid, I prefer this interpretation.
I believe both teams that failed to win a bid and those that did not bid both need to reach 100k in participation to receive their end of season 100k sponsorship money. Nobody receives free sponsorship money as per my understanding of the rules.
Rule is a winning bid is 1k above the next lowest bid.
In the 1st division LIV/STJ bid was reduced to 1k above next highest bid - FRA @ 55k, so 56k
In the 3rd division INV/EST bid 101k but thinking it should be reduced to 61k (1k above next highest bid - BRE @ 60k). BUT happy for Mark to agree or disagree with any of our workings.
Remember that when a team wins a bid, all their following bids are deleted, so aren't considered.
Difference was ALB put in bids but weren't successful - DUM didn't put any bids in so need to participate to get their 100k -but Mark can confirm/deny.
I have read the front page a couple of times a d my understanding is that any team not winning one of the sponsorship lots is then allocated the back-up default lot for participation bonus. I think ALB fall into this bracket along with the likes of DUM.
Two different tied bids and two different outcomes. Div 3, INV and EST both bid 101k and both pay 101k. Seems logically. The result in Div 1 is different though. I prefer the Div 3 outcome and would be interested to know if this has been a rule before now.
Sorry, yes i wasnt clear enough.
4 teams listed, didnt bid - so fall in to the 100k participation default.
But 3 teams did, but were unsuccessful, so also fall into that bucket - they are EDI, HIB and SM.
Its all in the table though.
Hopefully people can see it all the way to the right, it is showing ok on mine
I believe the 100k is paid at the season end to teams who put in sponsorship bids but were unsuccessful.
Teams who didn't put in any bids have a chance to earn 100k by earning at least 100k through participating during the season.
Could be wrong but if do someone will explain.
in Div 1 ALB tried but were unsuccessful so will get 100k at season end - remaining teams (PET has it right) will need to earn it during the season.
Thanks DB, not sure how I missed the boat on this so hopefully this can kick off my participation push!
Not easy to admin, and I can't quite read table as too wide (my fault as I'm on a phone screen) but if 9 teams won in Div 2, then means 7 teams will have the default 100k sponsor do every team has something to chase.
Great work though to all admin, as lots of manual paperwork cross checking.
This is my first effort at this (likely the last) so feel free to query the figures.
11 teams took part, 10 were successful, item number 9 was not won.
DEV, HAM, DUM, PET, RR can earn 100k if participation throughout the season totals a minimum 100k
Winners | |||
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 400k | MOT 114k |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 400k | DEE 126k |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | LIV & STJ 56k |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 400k | SRA 5k |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 300k | STE 126k |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | ARB 112k |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | RAN 36k |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | HEA 51k |
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | 200k | No Winner |
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | 200k | FRA 6k |
1st Division | ||||||||||||||
HEA | LIV | STE | SRA | STJ | RAN | ARB | MOT | FRA | DEE | ALB | Winning amount | |||
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 400k | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- | 149 | -- -- | 113 | 1 | 114 |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 400k | -- -- | 125 | -- -- | -- -- | 125 | -- -- | -- -- | 149 | 55 | 149 | 1 | 126 |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | -- -- | 125 | 3 | -- -- | 125 | -- -- | -- -- | 149 | 55 | 126 | -- -- | 56 |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 400k | -- -- | 125 | 4 | 5 | 125 | 1 | 5 | |||||
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 300k | 111 | 125 | 131 | 30 | 125 | 111 | 125 | 109 | 55 | 113 | 1 | 126 |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | 111 | 125 | -- -- | 30 | 125 | 111 | 125 | -- -- | 60 | 113 | -- -- | 112 |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- | 35 | -- -- | 111 | -- -- | 99 | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- | 36 |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | 111 | -- -- | -- -- | 50 | -- -- | 111 | 125 | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- | 51 |
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | 200k | 111 | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- | 111 | 125 | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- |
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | 200k | 111 | -- -- | 43 | -- -- | -- -- | -- -- | 125 | -- -- | 25 | -- -- | 5 | 6 |
I can never remember if this table copies and pastes correctly, lets see...
12 Teams bid, 9 won something
Bank balance didn’t limit any bids
Lot 9 goes begging
Earn 100k in participation bonus default sponsor goes to CLY, FOR, NAI, QOS
Please double check and highlight if there any errors - it's a manual process.
Lot | Sponsor | ALO | ANN | CLY | COV | COW | DUU | EF | EDI | ELG | FOR | HIB | KIL | NAI | PT | QOS | SM | Winner | Amount |
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 123 | 138 | 136 | 89 | COW | 137 | ||||||||||||
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 123 | 138 | 135 | 136 | 181 | 89 | ELG | 137 | ||||||||||
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 204 | 46 | 31 | 150 | EF | 151 | ||||||||||||
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 123 | 35 | 31 | 150 | PT | 124 | ||||||||||||
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 35 | 60 | 45 | 163 | 108 | 75 | 81 | 31 | 89 | 150 | DUU | 90 | ||||||
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 100 | 60 | 116 | 71 | 31 | 150 | ANN | 61 | ||||||||||
7 | Have >=3 age 0 SL10+ last day season | 60 | 45 | 89 | KIL | 61 | |||||||||||||
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 23 | 15 | 60 | 88 | 24 | 61 | 150 | 50 | COV | 51 | ||||||||
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | 60 | 32 | - | - | ||||||||||||||
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | 99 | 44 | 28 | 89 | 22 | 61 | 31 | 59 | ALO | 32 | ||||||||
Earn 100k in Participation Bonus |
Thanks for doing so promptly.
Good work 👏
Think this should be right. If anyone spots any mistakes just shout it out.
1 | Team Goals >= 60 | CEL | 2 |
2 | 1 Player 4 MOM | CB | 102 |
3 | Top 6 Finish | ABE | 81 |
4 | 3 Clean Sheets | QP | 67 |
5 | Unbeaten 3 | INV/EST | 101 |
6 | Last 16 Cup | BER | 56 |
7 | 3 Age 0 SL10+ | AI | 1 |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | BRE | 33 |
9 | Have 10 OTF | STI | 1 |
10 | Team Goals >= 25 | Mon | 34 |
Remaining Teams AYR, DFA, FAL, GM and ROS get 100k for participation
FAL | CB | AI | INV | EST | BRE | QP | CEL | Mon | BER | ABE | ROS | STI | ||
1 | Team Goals > =60 | 45 | ||||||||||||
2 | 1 Player 4 MOM | 200 | ||||||||||||
3 | Top 6 Finish | 85 | ||||||||||||
4 | 3 Clean Sheets | 75 | ||||||||||||
5 | Unbeaten 3 | 101 | 101 | |||||||||||
6 | Last 16 Cup | 75 | ||||||||||||
7 | 3 Age 0 SL10+ | 55 | ||||||||||||
8 | Team DP <=200 | 40 | ||||||||||||
9 | Have 10 OTF | 26 | ||||||||||||
10 | Team Goals >= 25 | 35 |
..... passive pansies these days.....
..... or SW played as GK i like .
Helps your midfield. Nice trade.
BRE been busy spamming trade offers. Team tactics may be a tad predictable though?
Ross County have delved into the transfer market and have brought in experienced MF Scott McTominay from BRE in exchange for DF Joshua Nisbet,coach rob stated he was just the acquisition we were looking for and will slot straight into the side.
Weve got a few in now, but is there time to add yours...?
Weve got
EDI, ELG, PT, COW, COV, HIB, EF, ALO, DUU, ANN
......for those who remember the 1982 World Cup......Schumacher/Basiton foul of the century paid off. Didn't even get booked....
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 1 Saturday October 11th 2025:
COW(25) DEE(25) FOR(25) MOT(25)
A tricky weekend to start us off, there three very difficult results to predict. Only one of the 22 entrants backed Raith Rovers to beat Fraserburgh, and only two picked the draw between Saint Johnstone and Motherwell. One manager did reckon that Deveronvale would win against the odds at Peterhead, but then he foolishly changed his mind. Silly me!
Four of you managed to start the season with a handy six points so its 25k each to Andrew at Motherwell, Willy at Forfar, Eduard at Dundee and Alan at Cowdenbeath.
The second round is next Saturday (18th) and features the division 2, match 9 fixtures. The entry form is on the Notebook.
Prediction | ALB v DUM | HAM v DEE | LIV v ARB | PET v DEV | RR v FRA | STE v HEA | STJ v MOT | SRA v RAN |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 59% | 0% | 45% | 95% | 5% | 64% | 27% | 86% |
Away | 27% | 95% | 55% | 0% | 91% | 18% | 64% | 5% |
Draw | 14% | 5% | 0% | 5% | 5% | 18% | 9% | 9% |
Banker Count | 0% | 55% | 9% | 5% | 0% | 0% | 0% | 32% |
Team | Points |
---|---|
Motherwell | 6 |
Forfar | 6 |
Dundee | 6 |
Cowdenbeath | 6 |
East Fife | 5 |
Stranraer | 5 |
Ayr | 5 |
Alloa | 5 |
Annan | 5 |
Queens Park | 5 |
Stirling | 5 |
Falkirk | 5 |
Partick Thistle | 5 |
Hibernian | 4 |
Edinburgh | 4 |
Stenhousemuir | 4 |
Ross County | 4 |
Dumbarton | 4 |
Brechin City | 4 |
Elgin City | 4 |
Clydebank | 3 |
Arbroath | 3 |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 7:
Albion Rovers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Greenock Morton - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Airdrieonians FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Wwd)
......for those who remember the 1982 World Cup......Schumacher/Basiton foul of the century paid off. Didn't even get booked....
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 6:
Arbroath - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wDW)
Stenhousemuir - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Wdw)
Edinburgh City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
East Fife - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Montrose - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
So far I have:
HEA LIV STE SRA STJ RAN ARB MOT FRA DEE - 6 more to go if you wish a chance at a sponsor - to my in box, please. .
Sunday 12th is the cut off - results will be blogged Monday -
Whoops wrong division
7 Sponsor Bids received so far.
FAL | CB | AI | INV | EST | BRE | QP |
In the travestry of a game that was GM vs ALO in the Cecil Cup, John (LIV) commented on the risk playing a GK aggressive. So I did some maths and worked out that with an n GK our shot chance would have gone up enough to give us about 0.3 more chances. Tapani also played an SL 7 MF aggressive, which was even more pointless as it only added 0.5 DEF and 0.75 OFF (before changing to O). However the chance of giving a penatly for a Strong/Fair ref was about 7.8% for the 135 minutes of aggressive play (the GK was subbed at half time). The ref was Homer/Strict but he wasn't much of either as we didn't even get a yellow card.
Player tabs - *face in hand* - of course!
Oddly, under the players tab:
http://www.vanillaconsulting.biz/seslwiki/index.php/Players
Original OTF | After Ageing |
---|---|
1 | 1 |
2 | 1 |
3 | 2 |
4 | 3 |
5 | 4 |
6 | 4 |
7 | 5 |
8 | 6 |
9 | 6 |
10 | 7 |
http://www.vanillaconsulting.biz/seslwiki/index.php/Players#OTF
Guys, I rarely have to ask for assistance but today, I am stumped. I was looking up the aging tables - specifically, in relation to OTF, and I cannot find any reference to aging in SESL rules (the table is in SFLSL rules - thank the Lord for those guys) so if any one has the table for OTF aging, I would be grateful if you could share.
Thanks in advance.
Prediction League starts tomorrow
Get your bins in
Feed the cat
Wash behind your ears
BRE sends Scott McTominay (4/25 MF) to ROS for Joshua Nisbet (3/22 DF)
MOT sends 15k, 1 TP to EDI for 1 CP
BRE sends Scott Logan (2/24 MF) to PET for Antio Gallicia (2/24 DF)
I have no idea why these are so late . It was an incredible week with some very high scores and Im pretty sure my highest return ever.
Alon Atie 19.5
Andrew Foss-Grant 17.5
Paul Cockyne 14.5
William Bushby 10.5
Andy Shaw 10.5
John McCarthy 10.5
James Tucker 10.0
David Blair 8.5
Andrew Mc Cumiskey 7.5
Marc Legowski 4.5
That was also how I read it - Thanks. I was lulled into thinking it might be more flexible on signing from the early Notebool entries. Although I do not necessaily see why it shouldn't be allowed other than for ease of Mark's checking (and this may be quite a considerable reason!).
DEE sends 15k, 1 TP to EDI for 1 CP
William etc is quite right - below is a snapshot of the rules on the Notebook:
3. managers will retire players themselves and recruit apprentices themselves (on the Sunday after match 10, and retire players themselves after mid season aging)
Managers will post on Notebook (just once ideally) the week before match 10 and again before match 28 if they wish.
Detailling the players and value of retiree's with a total.
Looking forward to it - got a few lads needing their pensions :-)
FAL sends 165k to FRA for Ilkay Gundogan (4/13 DF)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 5:
Hearts - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DWw)
Elgin City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dwW)
Livingston - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Dundee FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWW)
Stranraer - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
I believe that Peter has it spot on.....at least thats my understanding too.
I read it you buy an apprentice with the money you earn from cashing in old players on 18 Oct.
Buying apprentice on any of the 10 days before this date would not be valid.
If he only skill level 5 (and will contribute very little benefit to team total SL) it would be prudent not to rush to buy early.
If I sign an apprentice now, before Game 7, will this player's cost be eligible for the Oldie conversion costs recouped after Game 10?
Decisions, decisions.
Bluff or all in? Wrong game but I do like a gamble.
Top team DEE play 4th strongest team FAL in cup tomorrow
Dundee FC seems to have a more experienced coach (Eduard Habermann), better overall stats, and a higher bank balance.
Falkirk, on the other hand, is working with a coach (Andy Shaw) with a lower CP/TP and bank balance. The morale/bonus is also a bit lower.
The match tactic stats are interesting too—Dundee has a solid focus on Ball Control (54%), while Falkirk is more focused on Normal (87%). Looks like Dundee is playing a bit more possession-based, while Falkirk is more conventional.
The injury concerns for Falkirk (Aaron Hickey and Anthony Ralston) could play a big role too.
It seems like you're already bracing for a tough matchup, especially since it's ranked 1st (Dundee) vs. 4th (Falkirk). Are you managing these teams in a simulation like Olmec Sesl, or are you analyzing them for a different kind of strategy to earn participation bonus?
FAL have added some negative pre match comments, however FAL are yet to show their hand with inputting a line-up order outstanding.
Cup game on Wednesday.
(Report produced by AI and by sesl AI manager)
Ryan Hardie (born 17 March 1997) is a Scottish professional footballer who plays as a forward for EFL Championship club Wrexham.
Hardie started his career with Rangers, and was loaned by them to Raith Rovers, St Mirren and Livingston. In July 2019 he moved to English club Blackpool, with whom he remained for 18 months, before signing for Plymouth Argyle in January 2021. In June 2025, Hardie signed for Wrexham.
Hardie has represented Scotland at youth internationals up to and including the Under-21 level. He has never played for SRA (yet).
DEE sends 15k, 1 TP to EDI for 1 CP
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Oct 5th:
AI(20) ALB(10) ALO(50) ARB(20) CLY(10) CB(15) DEE(35) EF(50) EDI(50) FAL(25) FOR(10) FRA(20) HEA(10) HIB(50) INV(10) KIL(30) LIV(20) MOT(50) QOS(40) RR(20) RAN(10) ROS(20) STE(25) SRA(35)
Much more expensive than seasons past. Lots of cash floating around SESL at the start of the season this time.
Just got this in before it mattered - apologies for being fairly late this week. But, at least it all comes in over an hour before the auction runs.
Will try to tackle this current week's bonus shortly after the clock ticks over to the new week.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Sept 28th:
ALB(15) ALO(50) ARB(20) BRE(10) CLY(25) DUM(30) DEE(50) EF(20) EDI(50) FAL(10) FRA(20) HIB(50) KIL(10) LIV(40) MOT(50) PT(30) STJ(30) SRA(10)
I wouldn't mess around with the MoM code - unless it's a simple PHP edit.
It even makes some sense that cup matches are included. After all, hardly any real life voting ignores "non-league" matches completely.
OTOH the silly fair play award is made even sillier by including the cup matches.
Given that teams play between 37 and 52 matches per season, at least we should award the teams with the minimum average DPs per match.
In Features there's settings for Flatnz and The Manager, both if which were added to the leagues here and MSWL - all on Al Sellers' server I believe. Tim Given folded Flatnz before a ball was kicked and I'm not 100% sure what happened with The Manager apart from Adam Meney wrote his own software - very similar but I think NMR teams played n rather than p, and there was other stuff too. One thing Adam did have or was going to have was "following" (someone correct me if I'm wrong) but I don't remember seeing it in his new version and I think that's what Attendance is about.
In the Java code for match revenue is the following (translated to English)
If league=The Manager then "a variable" = home following + modified (by travelling support) away following.
If this variable is greater than stadium capacity then it is maximum capacity.
Later it says Gate = base amount + this variable times ticket price.
If league isn't the Manager then it's the calculation we have now.
I suppose attendance could be linked to Gate revenue but SESL is based on real teams with variable stadiums and it's that pesky Java again.
Should Average Attendance correlate to gate receipts at all?
It should and it does in similar MSWL/EEFL engine implementations.
Al was just too lazy to add 2 lines of code.
For now, just divide the payouts by 10 and it looks quite realistic, at least for Div1 / SPL.
Should Average Attendance correlate to gate receipts at all?
Found the code. It adds goals, minutes played etc to database entries called in the code, for instance, "c1goals" for the Cecil Cup but there is no "c1mom", just "mom". And it's in Java so I'm not touching it. Not even sure I could as it would mean expanding the databases (I think).
Maybe I could tell it to ignore cup game MoMs so they didn't increase the total but, as Al Sellers has told me, it's not a simple edit in Notepad++ like I can with the php.
At the bottom of the competion stats pages there are two tables: Average Attendance and Team Form Guide.
The first one is irrelevant, and may as well be removed, and I bet no one looks at the other one, but I'll wait for any comments before changing that.
Only a small, not very important, bug where the number of games a player had played for the Golden Boot and Young Boot sections of the stats were showing the number of league games played and not the number of cup games. The number of goals score in each competion was correct.
I can't quite get my head around the code that counts MoMs as this always totals all competitions.
KIL sends 100k to STE for Big Lad (4/9 SW)
DEE sends 85k to ALO for 1 TP
I sense your frustration. But 45 SL in midfield first match, and 49 SL in midfield 2nd match while playing Long Ball may not be best use of that SL?
One of those big SL MF could have done a shift out of position in defence for you. Maybe a sweeper doesn't suit long Ball so much also?
I can give you a pair of 7/2 midfielders who can stand and watch your Long Balls for 90 minutes?
Someone may know the number stats better, but maybe Long Ball doesn't suit your small roster?
I sympathise, William - it often seems that the dice are loaded against me too. There is a lot of randomness in the match engine - too much in my view - but it isn't biased against Edinburgh or East Fife in particular, even if it feels like that. The luck will even out in the end...
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through 4th October - missed from previous -sorry Colin!:
DUM(200)
EDI Manager is seriously running out of patience with SESL.
The stronger the EDI squad becomes...the worse and more frustring the results become.
Last chance saloon me thinks.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 4:
Cowdenbeath - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Celtic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Queens Park - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 3:
Alloa Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
East Fife - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dwW)
Partick Thistle - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Falkirk - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwD)
Sponsor Bids
A week to go, so plenty of time - but a little nudge to the majority...
We've got 2 bids in for Div 1 so far (HEA and LIV)
Keep 'em coming....
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through 4th October...:
ALB(200) ANN(200) COW(200) DEV(200) DEE(100) EST(200) FOR(200) GM(200) KIL(200) QP(200) RR(200) STI(200)
A week to go, so plenty of time - but a little nudge to the majority...
We've got 5 bids in for Div 2 so far (EDI, ELG, PT, COW, COV)
Keep 'em coming....
THe Prediction League starts next Saturday, 11th. The entry form is on the Notebook
Hope to get a "time zone exception"... :)
Cheers!
Team and BIo updated for STI
ANN updated fully for S60 :-)
Here as well :)
Sent you a inbox Mr B last night, but will post here too :)
Bios done
Arsenal 3-1 West Ham
Bournemouth 1 - 1 Fulham
Brentford 1 - 1 Man. City
Wolves 1 - 2 Brighton
Leeds United 1 - 3 Tottenham
Aston Villa 2 - 2 Burnley
Everton 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
ManUtd 1 - 1 Sunderland
Chelsea 1 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Bios and that are done for the Sons of the Rock.
For earning up to 200k for updating your team and personal bios - and quoting season 60 in both.
When done please BLOG it here and it MUST be done with a Friday date/time - tomorrow morning I will go in and allocate the final payments. Between Mark and myself quite a few teams have been paid but at least half still have not responded. Easy cash, but you still have to earn it. :-)
The following teams receive Cup Draw Participation through cecil cup last 32 draw:
CB(50) LIV(50)
Got this error in foot of match 1
Then match 2 saw no CP or TP at all processed
Bank account suggests funds now there for match 2 coaching points but none matialised
Better luck for Saturdays show-downs
Still going strong,
even after Scotsman Fish
quit as leader singer
Following the earlier blog I went and found my copy of Silmarillion from Uni days (1986). Sure enough the bookmarker is stuck at chapter 10 (Of the Sindar) from all those years ago. I gave up reading it some 40 years ago and don't intend finishing it. Its very heavy and detailled bit totally lacks a storyline. Yes, fully worked out but only for Oxford level professors...
Arsenal 2-1 West Ham
Bournemouth 3 - 1 Fulham
Brentford 1 - 4 Man. City
Wolves 1 - 1 Brighton
Leeds United 1 - 2 Tottenham
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Burnley
Everton 0 - 0 Crystal Palace
ManUtd 2 - 1 Sunderland
Chelsea 2 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 2 - 0 Nottingham Forest
EPL Predictions
Arsenal 1 - 0 West Ham (just because Arsenal are so so boring to watch!)
Bournemouth 3 - 1 Fulham
Brentford 0 - 3 Man. City
Wolves 0 - 2 Brighton
Leeds United 2 - 2 Tottenham
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Burnley
Everton 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
ManUtd 3 - 0 Sunderland
Chelsea 1 - 1 Liverpool
Newcastle 3 - 0 Nottingham Forest
All done, I need the cash to compete with the big beasts of Division 1.
Arsenal 2 - 0 West Ham
Bournemouth 1 - 1 Fulham
Brentford 1 - 1 Man. City
Wolves 1 - 0 Brighton
Leeds United 1 - 3 Tottenham
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Burnley
Everton 1 - 0 Crystal Palace
ManUre 2 - 2 Sunderland
Chelsea 1 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 5 - 0 Nottingham Forest
* bonus point for not using excessive line spacing,
nor bold text
Arsenal 2-1 West Ham
Bournemouth 2-1 Fulham
Brentford 1-1 Man City
Wolves 1-1 Brighton
Leeds United 1-1 Tottenham
Aston Villa 3-1 Burnley
Everton 1-1 Crystal Palace
Man United 2-1 Sunderland
Chelsea 1-1 Liverpool
Newcastle 3-1 Nottingham Forest
Arsenal 2 - 0 West Ham
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Fulham
Brentford 1 - 1 Man. City
Wolves 0 - 2 Brighton
Leeds United 1 - 1 Tottenham
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Burnley
Everton 0 - 1 Crystal Palace
Man. United 0 - 1 Sunderland
Chelsea 2 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Arsenal 2 - 0 West Ham
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Fulham
Brentford 1 - 2 Man. City
Wolves 1 - 2 Brighton
Leeds United 1 - 1 Tottenham
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Burnley
Everton 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 1 Sunderland
Chelsea 2 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 3 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Arsenal 3 - 1 West Ham
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Fulham
Brentford 0 - 1 Man. City
Wolves 1 - 1 Brighton
Leeds United 1 - 2 Tottenham
Aston Villa 3 - 0 Burnley
Everton 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 1 Sunderland
Chelsea 0 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 1 - 0 Nottingham Forest
I'll email Mark, but if anyone else here as the correct Commish access the referees need shuffling.
9 points last week - not a problem with a blindfold and a pin!!
Arsenal 4 - 0 West Ham
Bournemouth 1 - 1 Fulham
Brentford 1 - 3 Man. City
Wolves 1 - 2 Brighton
Leeds United 1 - 2 Tottenham
Aston Villa 3 - 0 Burnley
Everton 2 - 2 Crystal Palace
Man. United 5 - 0 Sunderland
Chelsea 2 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Arsenal 2 - 0 West Ham
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Fulham
Brentford 0 - 2 Man. City
Wolves 1 - 2 Brighton
Leeds United 1 - 2 Tottenham
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Burnley
Everton 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Man. United 2 - 0 Sunderland
Chelsea 1 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 2 - 0 Nottingham Forest
A ridiculously dificult week to predict except for David Blair.
David Blair 9.0
Andrew McCumiskey 6.5
Andy Shaw 6.0
Alon Atie 5.5
Andrew Foss Grant 2.5
Wulliam Bushby 2.5
Paul Cockyne 1.0
The first time I tried to read Lord of the Rings I didn't even finish the first book. I tried again a couple of years later and got halfway through Two Towers but found that boring and again stalled. So I get why you've struggled.
Third time I'd now seen the first Peter Jackson film and now I had voices and could see who I was reading about - it made it much easier. When I got to Two Towers I read the second half first and then Return of the King before I saw the third film.
I love mythology so found the first part of Silmarillon easy to read and loved the main part about Beleriand. I think I preferred Unfinished Tales but it's been years since I read any of them.
I have used a variety of names over the years.
Real life Killie players
TV Characters (LOST, Only Fools and Horses, the Office all spring to mind)
Real life jockeys and golfers
At the moment in OASL, I am cycling through the squad's of the world cup winners from 1930s onwards and picking one set of players from each squad every time I need to name some players. Currently on Brazil 1958.
This season in SESL I have promised my wife she can name any new players so I dread to think what will happen! :D
They are epic books Steve that I have struggled to read.
Is The Silmarillion worth finishing?
I remember when Andrew used Game of Thrones names (more accurately the books Tale of Ice and Fire?)
For Alloa I try to use real player names as I did early on at Deveronvale. But have also used ex work mates (Ashley Roe for instance), some randomly made up names, my son "the JAT" as Andrew called him when he did Front Page reviews.
My SFLSL team is AC Sapone - Sapone is the Italian for soap that you wash with and my player names are from Corro, EastEnders etc . Before I had a team called Beleriand and the names were from Tolkein's Unfinished Tales, Silmarillion and other collections.
Over in OASL it's mainly names from books, even if they're more well known from TV or Film.
Skim read Andrews SRA blog copy and paste below on Kevin Kyle (not sure of "the agenda" here).....
but a glance at SRA roster reveals a motley crew of player names.
I've seen golfer as sesl player names
I've seen countries as player names
Has the world gone mad!
Done for a change
Kevin Alastair Kyle (born 7 June 1981 in Stranraer) is a Scottish retired footballer and media personality who played as a centre forward. He played for eleven senior clubs (but never SRA) in his career. Kyle gained ten full Scotland international caps and scored one goal.
After starting as a youngster at Ayr United, Kyle began his professional career with Sunderland, where he had been in the youth team. He remained at the Stadium of Light for six years, making 91 appearances in the Football League, scoring 17 goals. He also made his debut for both the Scotland under−21s and its senior team during his time in the North East, as well as gaining promotion to the Premier League in 2004–05. In 2006, he moved to Coventry City, for whom he made 44 league appearances and scored five goals. In 2009, Kyle signed for Kilmarnock, marking his professional debut in his homeland. After a year in East Ayrshire, during which he scored 16 goals, he signed for Hearts in 2010. In two years at Tynecastle, Kyle scored seven goals in his 19 league appearances. In 2012, Kyle joined Rangers, where he made eight league appearances and scored three goals, and won the Third Division title as the club began its climb back to top tier. He finished his career back at Ayr United in 2013, aged 32, and retired the following year.
For real, none of this pretend. :-)
Steve is the master of the OLMEC "Matrix"...
That's why he always beats me, I'm standing on the virtual sideline yelling at my virtual players while Steve just sits back with his calculator in hand smiling at my ignorance... ;)
(then he says: "there is no spoon..." :)
But Dave's point is great, for "small" teams like mine it is all about having our keeper make 150 saves while our star forward nets our only shot of the match...
Well said Mr Blair.
Steve T does a great job and his attention to detail is impressive.
I am always impressed and dazzled by your workings and they are understandable and I know you comment on the amount of shots you should have got on matches you clearly felt you should have done better. But I always think to myself, if everything fell into place due to "what could/should" happen, then Celtic, Liverpool should never play and league titles could just be delivered to them in August. Like real football, random elements step in and make some poorer teams think they can get something from a seemingly lost game. It keeps us going.
In SESL I guess the equivalent is bad (or good) dice throws in the computer and "things happen" - and long may these random throws go on.
However please keep your articles going - I know I probably play the wrong formation/tactics but nobody gets hurt, and one day I I might have a world beating team but still accept I can lose to a "bad" throw of the dice (I know it's a die, but I don't care now). 🤔👍
Greetings from Japan!
When the game runs the first injury check is for negative ELs. For those that don't know EL drops by 0.066 per minute if playing n aggression (0.055 for p, 0.086 for a or d). There is a slight difference to the following stats numbers depending on what EL your player started with. I'm going to assume 0 so chance of injury in first minute but if he started with EL 1 his EL would be 0.01 at 15 minutes so after that a slightly less chance of getting injured.
The chance of getting injured before the 17th minute less than 1%, it becomes 5% after 37 minutes. That doesn't mean it's a 5% chance at 37 minutes, it means by 37 minutes - or there's a 95% chance he won't be injured. It becomes 10% at 55 minutes, 15% at 68 minutes, 20% at 79 minutes and 25% in the 90th.
If a player starts on EL 4 he has a 97% chance of not getting injured before the game ends. This is the injury that can cause the broken leg - a 1% chance.
After the EL injury check there's a check for a random injury. Both teams are checked each minute. Commishes set a base injury chance (10 for SESL, 8 for SFLSL and 15 for OASL). Each 'a' player adds 1 to this, each 'd' player on your team adds 2 to your chance and 4 to the opposition. So all 'p' or 'n' and the number used is 10. If all 'd' then it's 76. This is the chance in 10000 that a random player on your team gets injured.
With all 'p' or 'n' there's a 8.7% chance of 1 or more injuries on your team. With all 'd' in the game there's a 49.7% chance of at least one injury. If you arety and the opposition all normal you have a 38.6% chance of causing at least one injury to the opposition, and a 25% chance of one or more of your palyers being injured.
The maximum amount of EL loss is -20 on a 2% chance.
Isn't there a option to reset el to 10 in the new staff auction. Maybe this could be the fix, but can use at any point in the season?
I don't mind the -96EL broken leg, but the scenario Steve paints is both very unlucky and not within a managers's control. Random injuries when a player is >=1EL perhaps should be removed, with the risk of injuires only occurring when running on empty 0EL or less? This removes Steve's scenario from consideration and all within the managers consideration of risk.
I suffered exactly what Steve is describing a couple of seasons ago - not a broken leg but an injury around -50 which I had no opportunity to prevent.
Personally I think that the solution is to move away from playing two matches an hour apart on the Saturday. I don't really have a problem with the -96 injury if managers are in a position to avoid it. But if there is no appetite for changing the schedule, removing the seriousness of injuries is a good workaround.
Is there any place in these leagues for the -96 broken leg? It's a Saturday and your (future?) star player picks up a late injury in the first game. He started with EL 8 so you have him playing in the second game. The injury was after 75 minutes when his EL was 3. It's only a thigh bruise for -4 but it means he starts the second game on EL 3.
You haven't had the chance to check your orders so your player's EL is dropping below 0 into the second half. It's unlikely (and I aim to post the odds in a future blog post) but he gets the dreaded broken leg.
Even with the magic sponge it's only +8 EL per game - 12 games to get fit at a cost of 480k. If you're out of the current cup, that's over a third of a league season. Can't afford 480k? That's pretty much his season over and possibly a waste of all the resources you've put into him. If you're really unlucky, the 1000k 0/10 FW you bought last season won't get his 10 TP this season.
Just in case the bio and about police are around still Albions are done. Unlike others I don't really care when David pays out. In Mr Blair we trust!
Good luck those in cecil cup leg 2 matches on Wednesday.
For league play at weekend 4 teams lineups are safely in already. ALB ARB FRA MOT.
No rush yet ofcourse for league lineups with deadline a while away (if there even is a deadline)
Great golf last 3 days from New York
Team USA made a great comeback yesterday, but Europe worthy winners. First win on foreign shores since 2012.