DEE got paid for what he did, and I could say even the initial payment should have been made next Saturday as clearly the blog came after my deadline for yesterday.
But I will check out all those who haven't been fully paid to see if they have been improved and those who blog as of now to say they have done ALL the updates, and next Saturday's payout will be the final - BLOG here and if it shows a Friday you are in with a shout. We won't have any nonsense about time zones etc as I have given more than enough notices. It is 200k for little work, so keep it between the blogs and me, and nobody else, please? :-)
As suggested, I re-read DEE recent posts to fact check, and I conclude when DEE first blogged "bio AND team info update" he make a mistake as that wasn't true.
DEE later blogged they "should clearly be DEE (200)" but this was also a misrepresentation as only 100k was due.
DEE then changed his bio the next day to perhaps try cover his earlier blogs up.
DEE has not disputed he altered and expanded and updated bio after payments made.
DEE has understandably asked that we drop this topic.
I'm not going to get me knickers in a twist over this now.
No apology necessary.
Dear Raymond,
I'd suggest that we just drop this topic.
Alternatively, you might just re-read my recent posts - and we'll drop it then.
You are not telling the truth Eduard as your bio had not been updated as it sits now when payouts was last made last night.
I only got 100k too which was why I checked reason 2 other teams got 100k, and others got 200k
DEE bio mentioned about cup double last night, but that may have been from previous season as DEE have now won two cups in both the last 2 seasons.
Since the last payout, you have added twice the amount of text at least today.
Not sure of your agenda to misrepresent this fact today.
Hot on the heels of you pretending there wasn't a deadline date for pre season orders to be submitted.
What are the odds of this coincidence 47 teams adhered to a deadline date clearly posted on front page, but that you say didn't exist.
Someone also blogged more than once there was teams still missing their pre season orders. Think HIB boss did last Monday & Tuesday reminders on blog (I can't check as if I click away from this blog I may lose all the text written)
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through :
DEE(100)
should clearly be DEE(200) - especially since my update blog has been called ...
DEE S60 bio and team info update
To remove all doubts I have even called the major update a MAJOR update by now!
Thanks in advance,
Eduard / poor DEE
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through :
ABE(200) AI(200) ARB(200) BER(200) BRE(200) COV(200) DEE(100) HAM(200) HEA(200) HIB(200) INV(100) PT(100) RAN(200) ROS(200) STJ(200)
I'm out out tonight,
so hoping matches run at the deadline.
The start of a brand new season begins in less than 4 hours for 32 of us.
Season 60 promises to be a terrific season and extremely competitive especially in Division 2 where there are 10 different teams compared to last season.....totally impossible to predict and very hard to achieve promotion as things stand.
Team and bio updated
Trade window would not have opened until all pre season orders had been completed (by the deadline noted on front page) in previous seasons.
Except this season for first time trade window remained open, so wasn't such a big issue.
1st payment made - couple of teams came in this morning with their bios updates and they will get the payment next Saturday.
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through 27th September - 1st payment run:
ALO(200) AYR(200) CLY(200) CB(200) EF(200) EDI(200) ELG(200) FAL(200) FRA(200) LIV(200) MOT(200) PET(200) QOS(200) SM(200) STE(200) SRA(200)
I'm sure Mark will get round to sorting out DUM - he's done it before. There's no great rush as DUM don't play for a week.
Just my 2¢ on this:
I haven't seen an explicit deadline for the preseason orders.
If so, there is just the implicit deadline of the 1st match - which has yet to pass.
Mark might not like pressing the preseason button again in fear of technical side effects.
So just apply the orders manually, easily done.
If there was a deadline, Colin has likely violated it.
Just fine DUM with 100k for the manual correction - and get this over with.
... is done.
HAM done
I'm now on the bus home from a great time catching up with the lads.
I don't know how else to put this - I have no access to preseason. Just switch on preseason.
Cheers
Oh dear. Seems a couple teams missed the deadline. Was there a deadline?! Who knows...
After the doom and gloom for Ayr last season in Division 2 i decided to rid it from my system by writing about it and it lifted last season from my memory :)
Also an appeal to please let Colin do his preseason,else a silly oversight messes up his whole season for no good reason.
The offer of CP is very much appreciated. However, all that is required is for the Commish to switch on preseason.
Once on it has an automatic swith off which has clearly passed and preseason is now unavailable but it is not a deadline.
The deadline of yesterday was a joke from John.
It's unlikely all other 47 managers all guessed.
Or it may have been on front page last couple of weeks.
DUM were online yesterday along with a 2nd team I noticed hadn't done pre season yet.
As a favour, I happy to bung you some CP.
Or you can clean up resources next couple of auctions (with rich DEE, ofcourse)
Hey John, how did you know the deadline was yesterday?
I cannot see a date anywhere, except the next match deadline for orders. Strange.
That makes sense. Thanks John.
Thought I was missing something but I was correct. It’s not there.
Deadline was yesterday.
RAN & ABE started a season recently with no CP and coped, so you'll be fine trading plenty in.
Unfortunately I don't seem to have a preseason tab available.
Brechin will be in Div 1 soon.
Hello everyone.
I'll be managing Brechin this season. Maybe I'll do it longer, I'll see.
First action: I put all my SL 20+ MFs on sale. I'm looking for similar DF/WGs (as many managers here know, I'm a Early Cross fanatic).
Also done
All done here, sorry if i have posted it already but can.t remamber lol
Actually I have 12 teams so far to pay out for bios updates, not 10, and today more might join them - :-)
1st games for 32 of us in the lower reaches of the league, and we are ALL set to go, except one lad. Just Colin @ DUM needing to do his pre season and its a full house.
Tomorrow morning I will pay out the 1st bios update payments - 10 teams so far will be better off by noon. (Actually I've not done my own one - strewth!! I am on it!!)
REMEMBER, when you do the updates, you need to BLOG it here so I know to check. No blog, no check.
2nd and final payments will be done next Saturday morning - all updates to be in by Friday 3rd. Easy money, and all payments will be in your account before the 1st auction on the 5th...
EDI sends Paolo Maldini (3/26 DF) to LIV for W C John (1/20 SW)
Jinx - posting similar thoughts at the same time
Took the 20% off.
Great adjustments to the staff on offer, Mark. I appreciate that it seems the discussion in the blog was heard, and the time was taken to tune the offerings.
MOT went from being interested in 0 or 1 of them to being interested in 2 to 4 of them, depending on how our season goes. I'm looking forward to the new feature and I think it is well balanced for a first go at it.
Thanks for clearing this in time.
I'm still no big fan, but the staff setup and pricing has improved - and we all have planning security for this season.
Certainly a good idea not to show the 20% bonus. It would lead to serious disappointment vs EC or S.
I'm quite sure that anyone playing C knows its strengths and weaknesses.
Agree - I would leave off the bonus. Will make it easier to calculate out for various possible opponent tactics if I don't need to first remove the 20% and then adjust to see how it would perform vs press, stall, etc. I think if you're using 'c' then you probably are already used to knowing how the numbers will adjust beyond what is shown on that preview screen
A couple of managers over in SFLSL have suggested I leave off the 20% bonus and let managers work it out for themselves. Happy to do so here and in OASL unless there's a big wish to keep it as it is.
Wiki rules have been updated to reflect the 5 staff member options a team may buy mid season.
one maximum per team.
This initiative will be reviewed at end of season 60.
Anyone else with strong opinions either may can put them on blog,
but the rule needs set in stone before first league matches in 10 days time.
4 managers have donated over last two weeks.
5 other managers donate monthly via direct debit.
Anyone else wish to throw anything my way would be great.
If you gave last season then ofcourse sit this one out, and your support was a huge help.
Donate towards
server costs:-
https://paypal.me/SESL
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Sept 21st:
ALB(35) ALO(50) ARB(40) CLY(20) DEE(20) DUU(10) EF(50) EDI(50) FAL(10) FOR(15) FRA(35) HAM(10) HIB(50) KIL(10) LIV(30) MOT(50) PET(10) QOS(20) RAN(40) STJ(30) SM(10) STE(20) SRA(50)
In for a penny...
In for 200k...
Fixed.
Eduard, I never play it so don't need to know the values.
I have never seen that before and yes I can change that.
Very strange and surprising.
I'd have thought you've read this quite often during your times as Ball Control afficionado.
I have never seen that before and yes I can change that.
Good work Steve.
It's really minor but any chance the 'opportunistic' spelling could be fixed on the orders page? Bugs me everything I see it :D
Good work Steve.
It's really mimor but any chance the 'opportunistic' spelling could be fixed om the orders page?
GK aggression difference from n is also not reflected in GP.
I've been tinkering around on the site and have made the following updates:
1. Fixed a bug where when Player Tactics was loaded (for instance after a save tactics) the wrong defender was loaded into your 2nd marker. This was a problem if you just altered something like CP and didn't notice before saving.
2. In Features->Parameters->Tactics I swapped the DF and SW column headers for GP to their correct positions.
3. Removed the ODFL and SOS Cup tabs at the top of each page.
4. Changed Golden Gloves calculations to a simple percentage. Minimum number of shots faced is 50, and 30 for Young Gloves.
5. On the Lineup Page the approximate numbers for the 8 tactics didn't reflect the actual values for some tactics.
I've made some assumptions: number of WG+FWs for stall and ball control = 2, for longball and early cross = 4 and for the rest = 3. An SL 30 WG will add/subtract 1.5 per player if different from these.
For ball control I've assumed 2 extra MFs. For OTF of 10 there's a 6.25 difference per MF.
For counter attack I've increased OFF by 20% as if playing normal or counter attack.
Home bonus and Morale are still not included as I don't know how to look them up.
EPL
Brentford 1 - 1 Man. United
Crystal Palace 0 - 2 Liverpool
Man. City 2 - 1 Burnley
Leeds United 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Everton 2 - 1 West Ham
Newcastle 1 - 1 Arsenal
Tottenham 2 - 0 Wolves
Aston Villa 1 - 1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Sunderland
Chelsea 3 - 1 Brighton
Done
Brentford 1 - 1 Man. United
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Liverpool
Man. City 2 - 0 Burnley
Leeds United 1 - 3 Bournemouth
Everton 2 - 0 West Ham
Newcastle 1 - 1 Arsenal
Tottenham 3 - 0 Wolves
Aston Villa 1 - 2 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 3 - 1 Sunderland
Chelsea 1 - 0 Brighton
Brentford 2 - 0 Man. United
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Liverpool
Man. City 3 - 0 Burnley
Leeds United 0 - 1 Bournemouth
Everton 2 - 0 West Ham
Newcastle 1 - 2 Arsenal
Tottenham 3 - 0 Wolves
Aston Villa 1 - 0 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Sunderland
Chelsea 2 - 0 Brighton
Always wise after the event - yes, I could have asked for bios updates to be put on Notebook or my in box, but it's done now and as I get them I check them. And managers will earn some cash - win win.
John, if I don't get a Blog on an update the team won't be checked this week, OR next week. Simple thing to do - update and blog so I get it, and payments will be made. Can't be fairer than that. And I try to be fair.
PS Pre season still to be done by 9 teams - 7 in the 3rd division..
Brentford 2-2 Man United
Crystal Palace 1-1 Liverpool
Man City 4-0 Burnley
Leeds United 1-1 Bournemouth
Everton 2-0 West Ham
Newcastle 0-2 Arsenal
Tottenham 3-0 Wolves
Aston Villa 2-1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 1-1 Sunderland
Chelsea 2-0 Brighton
Brentford 0 - 2 Man. United
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Liverpool
Man. City 4 - 0 Burnley
Leeds United 2 - 2 Bournemouth
Everton 2 - 0 West Ham
Newcastle 0 - 1 Arsenal
Tottenham 3 - 0 Wolves
Aston Villa 3 - 1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 2 - 2 Sunderland
Chelsea 3 - 1 Brighton
Brentford 1 - 2 Man. United
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Liverpool
Man. City 2 - 0 Burnley
Leeds United 0 - 2 Bournemouth
Everton 2 - 0 West Ham
Newcastle 0 - 1 Arsenal
Tottenham 3 - 1 Wolves
Aston Villa 1 - 1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Sunderland
Chelsea 3 - 2 Brighton
Brentford 1 - 2 Man. United
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Liverpool
Man. City 3 - 0 Burnley
Leeds United 1 - 2 Bournemouth
Everton 2 - 1 West Ham
Newcastle 1 - 2 Arsenal
Tottenham 2 - 0 Wolves
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Sunderland
Chelsea 2 - 1 Brighton
CB sends 2 TP to FRA for 175k
Again, many thanks John but still no joy....
But as you say...No big deal just annoying lol.
Again thanks mate.
Bill
Sounds good Steve.
30 shots faced sound good for young ones, although a 0/5 GK may face alot of shots early in their career!
Mark is happy with me to go ahead with this with something like 50 shots faced (I thought 30 for Young gloves).
The only problem (if it's considered one) is that the table will be blank until the first keeper faces 50 shots. This also means that a good defensive team might not have a keeper eligible for a while and suddenly appear at the top.
Assuming that the season follows the same pattern as usual, the dates for the prediction league will be as shown in the table.
I am not planning to change the rules at all.
Round | Competition | Match | Date |
---|---|---|---|
1 | Division 1 | 6 | Saturday 11 October 2025 |
2 | Division 2 | 9 | Saturday 18 October 2025 |
3 | Division 3 | 12 | Saturday 25 October 2025 |
4 | Division 1 | 15 | Saturday 1 November 2025 |
5 | Division 2 | 19 | Saturday 8 November 2025 |
6 | Division 3 | 33 | Saturday 6 December 2025 |
7 | SESL Cup L16 | 40 | Wednesday 24 December 2025 |
8 | Division 1 | 44 | Saturday 3 January 2026 |
9 | Division 2 | 47 | Saturday 10 January 2026 |
10 | Division 3 | 50 | Saturday 17 January 2026 |
May be your device or browser William that is blocking the option.
I tested this minute on Microsoft Edge and Brave browser, and it works after "update info" and then UPDATE TEAM NEEDS is the 3rd box down.
Try it on your phone or ipad or laptop or basially a different device and test if it works.
I dont think you missing out on much though as the feature appears just cosmetic.
Thanks Marc, I can find the header that says 'Team needs' but there is no box to type into anymore so unable to do so...strange ?
Click on your club badge- then update info.
In for a penny...
MOT sends Jozef Horvath (4/5 DF) to HEA for 67k
Notebook might have been a better place to announce these.
Blog gonna get bloated with these posts on fanfare on bio and about updates.
I can do 48 clicks on each team on Friday if preferred to check who needs paid.
2nd payouts you only clicking on teams not already paid out.
,,,,,we need the $$$........thanks David
Thanks for the hard work David
Updated for season 60.
All updated.
Well done Andy
I was totally hopeless but Liverpool are 5 points clear after 5 games played so all is good with the world.
Andy Shaw 9.0
Paul Cockyne 7.5
William Bushby 7.0
Andrew McCumiskey 7.0
Les Lithgo 6.0
Alon Atie 6.0
David Blair 4.5
Given that we already have a purchase date (24.11.), some questions still need answers ...
2. Magician: all DP wiped to zero. D1, 600k D2, 400k D3, 200k
The team DPs ( => fair play award) are not wiped, right?
3. Spains Juan Touch: add 5 OTF D1, 500k D2, 400k D3, 300k
I assume that overflow (beyond OTF 10) is simply lost (and not converted like awards), right?
4. Senior Citizen: all age 5+ players added 2SL after MSA. D1, 300k D2, 200k D3, 100k
Those SL do count for PU and are not applied if the players are already at their PU cap, right?
Hey David....how do we do that please as i am probably being dumb ?
Gents, spoke to Nark and he says to go ahead with your team and personal updates.
Payments will be (up to) 100k for a decent team and the same for a decent Personal update. While you are there fill up the "team needs" box on the front page too. 🤔🤔
I will be doing the payments - first one this Friday 26th September - the last one for the following Friday 3rd October. That means I'll pay on the Saturday 4th but won't accept any after Friday 3rd.
After that there will be no payments for them.
ill take on board the ones mentioned on Blogs up till now, and appreciate it if you confirm on the blogs you have done yours.
Payments made will ensure the 1st auction won't have any 1k purchases..😉😉💰💰
As we have now had confirmation that 'Bios updates etc' are happening again this season...never sure anymore what with recent cutbacks....EDI are pleased to announce that this is now DONE.
Still 12 teams to do theirs - and with the CECIL Cup coming up this weekend 11 of them are in the 2nd and 3rd divisions (actually 10 are 3rd division sides).
PS memo to me -do bios updates - there WILL be a payout so as well doing it now. 💰💰
AI sends 5k, 1 CP to ARB for Johnny Punter (4/13 SW)
HEA sends Danny Wilson (4/13 DF) to PET for 220k
No problem at all David. Thank you
That was me I'm afraid. I was posting the additions to the POTS players and altering the PUs totals, but accidentally started changing the ELs on the first 3 teams I did. I've sorted Dom out. I'll run through other clubs to see if you were the only one still affected. 👍👍
All done. Good luck everybody
Dom Docherty has returned from the end of season break on EL 9- too many pizza slices at the all inclusive hotel?!
AI sends 65k to STE for Elm (7/8 DF)
Steve, yes, sound like my shot in the dark was way off. Maybe 60 is more like it...no of league matches x 2...?
Looking at SFLSL there are GKs from the top teams that haven't faced that many shots (OPT's was only 61 I think) and they play 26 league games over there to 30 here. And it is only league games that are counted.
MotM however counts all competitions for some reason.
Agree that the qualification for this should be fairly high. Maybe 100 shots faced over the season? That would be an average of about 4 shots per game assuming the geeper plays in 2/3 of matches.
Falkirk have updated their season 60 bios.
I think that a simple 'Shot saved %age' seems the logical way to go imho.
As for the 'Minimum' qualification criteria...that is probably left to more qualified judges than me to debate and decide, but i would suggest that it should be on the stricter side to avoid the 'freak' tiny handful of performances that do happen even with lower SL GKs who only play a small percentage of games compared to the better GKs and can therefore effect a fairer outcome which is surely what we are all after ?
At the end of the day, i am sure that the SESL hierarchy will come to a very sensible solution...with perhaps a little help and several opinions lol.
I would read the recent poll that 6 out of 48 teams went with maintain the status quo 😁
Joking aside, 22 out of 28 who voted acknowledged there was a flaw in current criteria for golden gloves.
78% is a huge majority to change it. Steam ahead Steve.
CHOICE | TOTAL VOTES |
Change award manually to "save %" | 12 |
Remove award if it feels unfair. | 10 |
No change, stay the same. | 6 |
I've found the code for Golden Gloves and changed it on SFLSL for the SFLSL Cup only. It's a simple shotssaved/shotsfaced percenage.
Each league has a different code for this so SESL could go for Save% and other leages have their own rule.
And I can change it to a minimum number of shots faced.
1. Do we want the change?
2. As a simple save%?
3. And what minimum shots faced?
I expect Mark might put a poll up. I know he did already which was close for change or get rid.
The bug where marking players were loaded incorrectly on the Player tactics screen has been fixed.
These are now available.
See league homepage for details, simply scroll down and they are on left hand side.
Fair point, Andrew. Makes a small difference. Some of those figures are off by as much as 54k
I guess so. Did mine already
8. Dundee FC 2506 50 44 8 0.87 0.30
What's to worry about?
DEE's only #8!
(the other) Andrew @ MOT says......
"Max bonus is worth, on average, 27k per match. If you play 30 league games and 19 cup games, that's 1,323k per season. HB on 0.2 (just winning the league) will get you 441k less in those same fixtures."
This is not quite true. If I come 4th and play the 5th team then the revenue for next season will be the same regardless of which team came 4th or 5th as the Morale is combined. The advantage of Div One is that you get to play the MOTs and DEEs of the world and I will get a small share of their higher revenue. Andrew's calculation does not take this into account.
Will we be doing the usual team and bio updates this season ?
ARB sends 135k to EDI for Calum Mackay (5/12 MA)
Brighton 0-1 Tottenham
Man United 1-1 Chelsea
Wolves 1-1 Leeds United
Arsenal 1-1 Man City
West Ham 0-1 Crystal Palace
Bournemouth 2-0 Newcastle
Liverpool 1-0 Everton
Sunderland 0-1 Aston Villa
Burnley 0-1 Nottingham Forest
Fulham 1-2 Brentford
Winning league ought be rewarded more than Cups I think.
I'd scale back all the morale bonus awards - maybe cut them all in half.
Div 1 manager of season was a toss up between MOT & DEE. So big respect to Eduards achievements.
STE sends 45k, Paolo Maldini (6/5 DF), Ireland (7/9 DF) to ROS for Jack Baldwin (4/14 DF)
John - it's a good question, and one that I've seen two managers work out the answer to and successfully follow up on over the past 10 seasons or so. Stewart at RAN and Eduard at DEE both saw the math or it and were able to build sides strong enough to take advantage.
You can debate the glory of winning cups vs titles, but from a financial perspective it's not remotely close:
With Eduard also very active (I believe he was 2nd most participation last season), he has his team very smartly set up for long term success. The only way to "attack" him from a financial perspective is going to be to knock him out of cups when you get the chance. From my perspective, winning cups (or at least making cup finals) is the #1 way to ensure long-term success in SESL.
ALB sends 125k to HEA for Robbie Neilson (1/10 MF)
Sounds like Robin Hood should be reinstated. No 24 hour windows.
Wouldn't have mattered (too much) since DEE's account was planned with RH in mind.
I'd have lost 56k after getting some late minor income, not exactly a game changer.
Queen of the South are happy to announce two new signings for the rebuild: Stephen McKenna (MF, 0/5) and Stephen Dobbie (WG, 1/14 Bosman). These names are not random — both are real legends of the club.
Stephen McKenna played in midfield for QOS from 2008 until 2015, and made more than 200 games for the club. In SESL his “new version” joins as a young prospect, with the hope to grow into the same kind of important player for the team.
Stephen Dobbie is maybe the biggest legend of Palmerston. In four different periods he scored more than 100 goals and was part of the best times in modern club history, including cup finals and promotion. In SESL he comes in as a winger, giving more balance to the squad and also a link to the tradition.
For QOS it is a nice combination: honour the past, but also build for the future. The target stays the same — keep Division 2 status and slowly make a stronger core of players for the next years.
Dee are just way ahead of everyone else.
Eduard is just doing everything better than the rest of us.
He also puts a lot of time into trying to trade himself to a stronger position.
New target needs to be runner up to DEE whilst this continues.
With zero research, I would say this is already the case David, that referees performance reflect their attributes.
I see teams play dirty when there is a strict ref. Those teams may, or may not, top the DP charts!
DEE have won the last 4 cups.
Begs the question - what is perceived a better season, winning the league, or winning both cups?
DEE will win Division 1 this or next season I would say.
Eduard has been a revelation in Sesl.
PT sends 450k, Lee Ashcroft (5/10 DF) to QOS for Andy Aitken (2/23 DF)
400k sponsorship added to the Golden gloves......carried over 15CP.....
Though how are Dundee able to buy 50 cp for less than 1500k? There's no way they carried 20 cp over from last season?
8. | Dundee FC | 2506 | 50 | 44 | 8 | 0.87 |
0.30 |
Had a thought whilst we are waiting for the start. Is there an opportunity to make referees performance reflect their attributes.
It would be worth looking at future referees covering your matches if it was likely they would be actually act loose or strong etc - heck, I might even take them seriously and my DPs would drop. Maybe..🤔🤔
Whilst I agree the DP one should be dropped (despite the fact I am the one who would benefit the most, but it would screw the figures), I do like John's idea to have one player swapping positions for a fee.
i know some lads hate changes but an idea like this (mid term perk) would be evaluated at the season end.
It will take cash out of the game (as I have just put 1500k into it with the payments for the POTS scheme).
The following teams receive Cup Draw Participation through cecil cup draw:
ARB(50) RAN(50)
The following teams receive SESL Officer Duties through last season:
EF(400) HIB(200) MOT(300)
Some very interesting ideas but think we should only have a couple in this season just to see how they go.
Bringing in too many at once could be a mistake. Think game works fine as it is and always a little worried changes can create more problems than the good they do.
But happy to give a go if not to much work for GM.
How about: a single SW DF MF WG or FW can change position to one of the other position.
100k a pop for all divisions.
Can maybe do change up to 3 players at 3 times the cost. Or make it one player only.
Age 5 increase SL +2 could be attractive to some teams. Unlikey trade in payment would be higher, but if another occassional team can benefit from that then clever manager.
Lastly- PU +2 I would say no to. A 2/38 becoming a 2/40 sounds scarey.
5 OTF for 200-600k
5 OTF costs 10 CP which is around 1000k plus maybe 125k in extra slots. Hardly taking cash out the game.
More I think about it the more I dislike these perks.
I really love the concept of these mid-season perks.
Obviously some more than others...The DPs is somewhat questionable in my opinion as is the EL, mainly due to the timing tbh.
Most of the others are down to personal preference if i am honest.
The OTF holds my attention mainly tbh but it would depend on the pricing if i am fair, i certainly understand that Division 3 teams get a noticable reduction but it would be all about balance re DIVISIONS.
I like the idea, here are my notes:
1. Physio: whole team set to EL10. D1, 600k D2, 400k D3, 200k - I like this one. It needs to be expensive as it can really affect the competitiveness of a team.
2. Magician: all DP wiped to zero. D1, 600k D2, 400k D3, 200k - I don't think this one should be considered, if you play a or d you should live with the consequences. (Then also the other issues with rewards and such).
3. Spains Juan Touch: add 5 OTF D1, 500k D2, 400k D3, 300k - I like this one, while I don't use tactics where OTF is a big factor, I can see the value of this option.
4. Senior Citizen: all age 5+ players added 2SL after MSA. D1, 300k D2, 200k D3, 100k - A fan of this one. Just make sure that it is balanced so you don't get all the money back on the cash for oldies trades.
5. Motivator: team morale increased to 0.9. D1, 300k D2, 200k D3, 100k - Looks good (tbh, not sure how much this affects the game).
6. Social media advertising: double gate receipts for next 2 matches. D1, 200k D2, 150k D3, 100k - I like this one too, also should be balanced so it is an investment that pays off.
I can think of one more idea:
7. PU: whole team reduced PU by 2. D1, 600k D2, 400k D3, 200k. This also needs to be expensive as it can greatly up a teams' SL levels.
:)
I like the idea, all look interesting!
I like the idea, all look interesting!
Must say I like the idea of a perk, and it would take money out of the game AND no team is competing with another to get a particular perk.
Actually, and I know Steve was kidding when the thought of cancelling all DPs to zero would suit me, but I agree with Mark (DUU) that that one would screw figures and the Fair Play Award, so I would think it should come out.
1. Physio: whole team set to EL10. D1, 600k D2, 400k D3, 200k - handy for aspiring clubs, need to wait to see if I would need/want this one. Seems a bit expensive as it stands..
2. Magician: all DP wiped to zero. D1, 600k D2, 400k D3, 200k - as in paragraph 2 maybe cancel this one.
3. Spains Juan Touch: add 5 OTF D1, 500k D2, 400k D3, 300k - never really understood OTF so maybe not for me..
4. Senior Citizen: all age 5+ players added 2SL after MSA. D1, 300k D2, 200k D3, 100k - mmm maybe although totally wiped out at PSA
5. Motivator: team morale increased to 0.9. D1, 300k D2, 200k D3, 100k - yes, a good one if morale is not near that figure. :-)
6. Social media advertising: double gate receipts for next 2 matches. D1, 200k D2, 150k D3, 100k - need to check to see just how much extra we could earn at that time - may or may not be worth the expense.
A good exercise and something else for managers to consider at MSA time. Innovations are good and we don't have to buy one if we don't want to/can't afford one/isn't of any worth to us at the time.
I tend to agree with the 3 raising concerns on DP.
A step too far.
But what alternatives can be put forward?
Staff should be affordable to all with a 50k or 100k option. Any manager claiming they cannot afford that at mid season is being short sighted to the obvious benefits. eg double gate receipts.
It can be like free money.
Just as betting on Cecil cup for mass majority was free money.
Everyone can afford to turn 50k in to 150k with 10 seconds of effort with a cecil cup bet.
Brighton 1-3 Tottenham
Man United 1-3 Chelsea
Wolves 0-0 Leeds United
Arsenal 2-2 Man City
West Ham 2-1 Crystal Palace
Bournemouth 0-1 Newcastle
Liverpool 3-1 Everton
Sunderland 0-2 Aston Villa
Burnley 1-0 Nottingham Forest
Fulham 2-0 Brentford
Couple of tasty trades gone through today.
I shall not be passing any comment on which is one sided 😘
Anyone buy apprentices early in season may benefit pausing until oldies trade-in.
Brighton 1-1 Tottenham
Man United 1-2 Chelsea
Wolves 1-0 Leeds United
Arsenal 3-1 Man City
West Ham 2-1 Crystal Palace
Bournemouth 1-1 Newcastle
Liverpool 3-1 Everton
Sunderland 1-2 Aston Villa
Burnley 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Fulham 2-0 Brentford
STE sends 850k, 1 TP, Holland (7/11 GK) to ROS for Jack Hamilton (2/23 GK)
COW sends Euan Walker (1/14 DF) to FRA for 500k
Brighton 0 - 2 Tottenham
Man. United 1 - 2 Chelsea
Wolves 2 - 1 Leeds United
Arsenal 2 - 0 Man. City
West Ham 1 - 3 Crystal Palace
Bournemouth 0 - 1 Newcastle
Liverpool 2 - 1 Everton
Sunderland 0 - 1 Aston Villa
Burnley 0 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Fulham 2 - 1 Brentford
Sounds too expensive for Albion. I have enough trouble getting to 1500k at end of season. The Dp sounds completely against the spirit of the game for me.
Brighton 1 - 2 Tottenham
Man. United 0 - 2 Chelsea
Wolves 1 - 1 Leeds United
Arsenal 2 - 2 Man. City
West Ham 0 - 1 Crystal Palace
Bournemouth 1 - 2 Newcastle
Liverpool 3 - 0 Everton
Sunderland 0 - 1 Aston Villa
Burnley 1 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Fulham 0 - 1 Brentford
Brighton 1 - 2 Tottenham
Man. United 1 - 2 Chelsea
Wolves 1 - 1 Leeds United
Arsenal 2 - 1 Man. City
West Ham 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Bournemouth 1 - 2 Newcastle
Liverpool 3 - 0 Everton
Sunderland 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Burnley 1 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Fulham 1 - 1 Brentford
How would this affect the fair play award?
I think resetting EL to 10 is too powerful though 600k for Div 1 teams might be prohibitive. Definitely worth Div 3 teams trashing EL in league. Stephen @ Peterhead might jump at the chance, however.
David @ Hibs would love the DP one.
Someone said the gate one is not worth it for Div 1 teams and definitely not if it has to be used straight away as the first games after MSA are SESL Cup without the 25k league bonus. Same for Div 2 mostly breaking even. Div 3 teams should all pick this if no other option looks good - instant profit.
Here we go
Brighton 2 - 1 Tottenham
Man. United 1 - 1 Chelsea
Wolves 2 - 1 Leeds United
Arsenal 2 - 1 Man. City
West Ham 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Newcastle
Liverpool 2 - 0 Everton
Sunderland 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Burnley 1 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Fulham 2 - 1 Brentford
Sounds reasonable overall.
The OTF interesting. 40 teams are sitting on 4 OTF or less and that is after awards from prediction league and manager of season OTF been added. Suggests OTF very under utilised.
10 OTF obviously the max, so may encourage those on 1 or 2 OTF to dabble with it.
Gate receipts one probably not for Div 1 teams, although as it will be first 2 games of sesl cup groups then a Div 3 manager playing 2 higher morale rated teams may well cash-in a windfall with double gate receipts.
Important there is an option for even the poorest teams.
And overall, a huge chunk of money could drain out the game, and the feeling from some is there too much money in Sesl already, so that could be a positive. For some.
Personally for me being able to pay to remove DP doesn't feel in the spirit of the game.
FAL sends 170k to ALO for 2 TP
KIL sends 50k to EST for Samir Nurkovic (6/8 FW)
Good staff suggestions but....
Q: Do they have to be implemented immediately upon purchase or can they be kept?
1. Physio: whole team set to EL10. D1, 600k D2, 400k D3, 200k
2. Magician: all DP wiped to zero. D1, 600k D2, 400k D3, 200k. Q: Are open suspensions also removed?
3. Spains Juan Touch: add 5 OTF D1, 500k D2, 400k D3, 300k. Q: Can you go over 10?
4. Senior Citizen: all age 5+ players added 2SL after MSA. D1, 300k D2, 200k D3, 100k. Q: Can you exceed +10 for the season?
5. Motivator: team morale increased to 0.9. D1, 300k D2, 200k D3, 100k
6. Social media advertising: double gate receipts for next 2 matches. D1, 200k D2, 150k D3, 100k.Q: Not sure this would be worth it for Div One? It costs almost as much to fund as gained?
No Super Scout? All apprentices +2SL say?
That was a speedy turnaround! Good job Mark.
Gents, payout has been made for those who entered the spirit of POTS. Player adjustments will be done tomorrow (or tonight if I am back in time). However I have to say that although 14 x 1st division sides and 10 x 2nd division sides took part, only 6 x 3rd division teams took advantage of the offer - those remaining in the 3rd division gain +3 either TP or CP to their named player, saving the club 300k approx. I can do no more. My relegation actually will give my lad a +2 instead of a +1 he was down for.
Mark - congrats on restarting the new season inside 3 days - must be a record. Well done there (also John @ Livingston possibly helped with his Blog detailing the prize winners..
And finally I haven't fully looked at Mark's half time offers for background staff, but initially I like the idea - although one or 2 of them might need their cost looking at. Will look tomorrow.
The following teams receive Player of the Season paym through 16th Sept - payout for POTS:
ALB(50) ALO(50) ARB(50) AYR(50) CLY(50) COW(50) DUM(50) DEE(50) DUU(50) EF(50) EDI(50) ELG(50) FAL(50) FOR(50) FRA(50) HAM(50) HEA(50) HIB(50) KIL(50) LIV(50) MOT(50) PT(50) PET(50) RR(50) RAN(50) ROS(50) SM(50) STE(50) STI(50) SRA(50)
To be discussed, but following on from EF, ARB & DEE blogs around 7th August I am open to your feedback and suggestions.
Each team will have the option to purchase maximum of one staff member at mid season point season 60 for a set fee, with it being cheaper the lower the division your team is in.
This will not be an auction, for fear the top teams will hoover up all the benefits.
1. Physio: whole team set to EL10. D1, 600k D2, 400k D3, 200k
2. Magician: all DP wiped to zero. D1, 600k D2, 400k D3, 200k
3. Spains Juan Touch: add 5 OTF D1, 500k D2, 400k D3, 300k
4. Senior Citizen: all age 5+ players added 2SL after MSA. D1, 300k D2, 200k D3, 100k
5. Motivator: team morale increased to 0.9. D1, 300k D2, 200k D3, 100k
6. Social media advertising: double gate receipts for next 2 matches. D1, 200k D2, 150k D3, 100k
What is too generous?
What is over-priced?
What other suggestions and costs to add at mid season point?
Thanks for the quick reply Mark.
Hi Bill, the trade page is set up so once a player listed is transferred to new team then it removes player from the transaction list.
With resource trading it cannot do this as some managers often have multiple amounts of resources on offer.
All players or resources added to trade list are cleared after 5 days approximately I think.
Excellent job Mark.......except you seem to have forgotten to downgrade the SL for DEE and MOT??
FAL sends 210k to EDI for Len Dalton (5/12 DF), Tony Cottee (6/12 FW)
Just like that done! Excellent job by Mark and the team to complete the end of season duties and start prep for the new season.
All managers have access to the transaction pages so that we can add Players, Resources and Wanted to the lists...My question is this, would it be possible to give managers the ability to REMOVE our entries if/when circumstances change ?
AGEING is done and PRE-SEASON is now open....happy days.
Ten (10!) new teams on DV2. Should be interesting! An excellent set of results in the Playoffs.
Competitive from 4th place down. Only 7 points between 4th and 11th (Play off place) with 2 more points to auto relegation. One game to many for CLY. Tried to put everything to avoiding play off spot only to end up in play off spot and tank EL for that game. Happy days are here again!
Clearly the approach worked. And it makes a lot of sense to me - pick your battles, and a win and a loss always are better than two draws. Matches STE's best league finish (also seasons 18 and 57), and caps off an incredible run of 5 straight highly successful seasons coming up from division 3. Well done!
Another great week of EPL soccer.
I understand the calls for different leagues, but this league just has it all.
The most money ,many of the worlds best players and most important any team can compete with any other on their day. This week Liverpool only beat Burnley with a 94th minute goal
Alon Atie 11.0
Andrew McCumiskey 10.0
Paul Cockyne 9.5
Les Lithgo 9.5
Andrew Foss Grant 9.0
Andy Shaw 8.0
William Bushby 8.0
David Blair 4.0
Another great week of EPL soccer.
I understand the calls for different leagues, but this league just has it all.
The most money ,many of the worlds best players and most important any team can compete with any other on their day. This week Liverpool only beat Burnley with a 94th minute goal
Alon Atie 11.0
Andrew McCumiskey 10.0
Paul Cockyne 9.5
Les Lithgo 9.5
Andrew Foss Grant 9.0
Andy Shaw 8.0
William Bushby 8.0
David Blair 4.0
I noticed this too. 😁
It looked like this was going to be a very possible outcome, as we went in to the SESL cup group games.
In a season where the odds were massively stacked against us, (we started the season with one of the lowest T11s and T17s and not enough resources to push on during this campaign, we finished the season with the worst squad in the division), we had to make choices. Its not always about 'burner' lineups (and possible blowouts), although we needed a few, we took a choice to play bold. Draws were never going to be enough, so as minutes progressed we took risks and sometimes it proved fruitful and of course sometimes it cost us.
For this season at least it worked.
4th does overstate how we competed (we were never anywhere near the top spots), but it will always be in the record books as 4th and ill take that
Good observation Andy.
Begs the question - is Div 1 the most closely competitive division in Sesl?
Or is Div 2 where the action is, given 10 teams will move to Div 2 before new season, with only 6 keeping their place in Div 2 for S60.
Variety is the spice of life.
Looking at the final table in division 1, I noticed how unusual it was to have 4th placed STE with a worse goal difference than 15th placed EF. And that led me to noticing that both sides had the same number of losses during the campaign! The 14 point gap between the two (pretty small for the difference between 4th and 15th) was purely down to EF having 11 draws and STE turning 7 of those 11 into wins.
Odd to have a year where the 4th through 16th placed teams are all so closely grouped, with only 14 points between them all. All sides 4th through 16th had between 11 and 16 losses. That range for 4th-16th in division 2 would be 7 to 21 losses, and 42 points separating them.
For those watching Tokyo......the man is super-human..........
RAN sends 1 TP to HIB for 98k
PT sends 1 TP to DEE for 100k
The stats only display GK rating upto 99.9
DEE GK Kostadin Gadzhalov has stats of 35 GA, 233 SF with huge 85% save rate.
Golden Gloves rating of 122.0
So DEE won the Golden Gloves but did not display due to 99.9 maximum blip.
Apologies to Jason at ELG.
note:
This blip was same that hit ALB Gracie a couple of seasons a year ago when Gracie rating went above 99.9 and was not displayed on SESL stats page.
Steve Turner is going to have a look at the database coding formula with Willy Krosnyak at Forfar, but if cannot be fixed before new season kicks off than I shall drop this award due to blip noted above
(and also the criteria it uses to calculate rating may be flawed also.)
The following teams receive Awards through Golden Gloves blip:
DEE(200) ELG(-200)
The following teams receive Sponsorship success through :
ABE(400) ALB(100) ALO(200) ANN(300) BRE(200) COW(200) DEV(400) DUM(100) DEE(400) DUU(400) EF(200) EST(300) EDI(100) ELG(400) FAL(400) FRA(100) HAM(100) HIB(300) INV(300) LIV(200) MOT(400) NAI(200) PT(400) PET(100) QOS(300) QP(100) RR(100) RAN(400) STJ(300) SM(100) STE(300) STI(200) SRA(100)
ALO sends 121k to RAN for 1 TP
Is it accurate to say those are unoffical sponsorship results? Or are those the final results, John?
With the most recent participation bonuses, I believe HAM should now also be included in the successful bucket
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Sept 14th:
ALB(10) ALO(15) ARB(35) AYR(10) COW(10) DUM(10) DEE(30) DUU(10) EF(20) EDI(50) FAL(25) FOR(10) FRA(10) HAM(35) HEA(10) HIB(50) KIL(10) LIV(50) MOT(50) PT(25) PET(20) QP(10) RR(10) RAN(25) ROS(10) STJ(10) STE(20) STI(10) SRA(20)
S59 | Team sponsor criteria | bidders | Success for payout | |||
Div 1 | Div 2 | Div 3 | ||||
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 400k | MOT -- DEV -- COV | MOT | DEV | |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 400k | ELG -- DUU -- ABE,DFA | ELG | DUU | ABE |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | HEA -- RAN -- FAL | RAN | FAL | |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 400k | DEE -- KIL -- PT | DEE | PT | |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 300k | STE -- QOS,STJ -- EST | STE | QOS,STJ | EST |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | ANN -- GM -- ROS | ANN | ||
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ | 300k | HIB -- -- INV | HIB | INV | |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | LIV -- -- BRE | LIV | BRE | |
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | 200k | ARB -- -- STI | STI | ||
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | 200k | EF,NAI -- COW-- ALO | EF,NAI | COW | ALO |
Div 1: ALB CLY DUM FRA SRA | ALB DUM FRA SRA | |||||
Div 2: AYR CEL CB EDI HAM PET RR SM | EDI PET RR SM | |||||
Div 3: AI BER FOR MON QP | QP |
Hurry hurry Les. Awards being handed out this evening going by blog "awards" below.
Season ended yesterday, and sponsorship gonna hit soon. I somehow sneaked mine with a strong finish to the season, while I note HEA missed their sponsorship on goal difference!
COV missed 400k sponsorship by just 1 goal!
Not sure about other sponsorships, but at a glance majority seem to have won.
Les, I can at least pay out this week's bonus here in a few hours. Mark will have to answer about the deadline beyond then
The following teams receive Awards through end of season 59:
ABE(400) ALB(400) ALO(800) COW(300) DEV(200) DEE(200) ELG(200) FOR(500) FRA(400) GM(200) HAM(300) KIL(300) MOT(300) PET(500) RR(300) STE(400)
Quick query... when is the deadline to reach 100k for the default sponsorship payment?
Currently sitting at 85k and wondering whether to get the press team working overtime or sack them!
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Sept 7th:
ALB(20) ALO(40) ARB(25) CLY(35) DUM(40) DEE(35) EF(50) EDI(50) ELG(10) FAL(25) FRA(10) HAM(35) HEA(30) HIB(50) LIV(10) MOT(50) PT(10) PET(10) RR(50) ROS(20) STJ(10) SM(10) STE(35) SRA(50)
Errr...nevermind on that. We only have 18 players. Could have sworn we were at 19 🤦♂️
If anyone is expecting to go over the limit and needs a player that can hide away 75k until the first retirement window...then I have the player for you
EDI sends 1 TP to ALO for 121k
I'm willing to buy 1 TP for 121k.
4 hours to trade window opening.
Who gonna be first to trade!?
All teams have enough to buy pre season CP bulk this time at least.
Robin Hood should be null and void if an active manager trades away his excess 4000k with 24 hours.
Exciting times. Rather than dull close season that can drag on.
Awards season 59 – September 2025
Criteria lifted from Sesl wiki page (advise if any tweaks needed), I was bored, so gave it a go!
Manager of the Season
Each Division will have Manager of the season, as voted by all the managers on the website front page Poll.
Earns 2 OTF
Div 1 to be advised
Div 2 STJ or PET maybe
Div 3 ALO
Golden Boot
Golden Boot 300k Div 1 - Ferran Torres (FW) FRA 35
Silver Boot 300k Div 2 - Oli Shaw (FW) HAM 23 Tiger Woods (FW) COW 23 JR Smith (FW) KIL 23
Bronze Boot 300k Div 3 - Luke Donnelly (FW) ALO 32
Golden Gloves
Rating = 75 x (1 - GA/SF) + SF/4 where GA is goals allowed and SF is shots faced
Golden Gloves 200k Div 1 - Kyle King ELG 94.1
Silver Gloves 200k Div 2 - Antti Niemi GM 84.3
Bronze Gloves 200k Div 3 - Zach Paris FOR 91.9
Other Awards (per division)
Rookie Hotshot (now Age 0 + Age 1) 300k Div 1 Billy Bland (FW) MOT 16 Div 2 Kwadwo Baah (MA) RR 16 Div 3 Brian Fuller (WG) ALO 18
Most Man of the Match 200k - Div 1 Kostadin Gadzhalov (GK) DEE 16 Div 2 Gabriel Pec (FW) DEV 10 Div 3 Zach Paris (GK) FOR 11 Luke Donnelly (FW) ALO 11
Div 1 Jules Kounde (WG) FRA 0/14 shots Div 2 Dan Gentle (DF) PET 0/9 shots Div 3 Rory MacLeod (MA) FOR 0/15 shots
Div 1 FRA 80 DP Div 2 RAN 70 DP Div 3 ABE 84 DP
Major Congratularions to all the Division 2 teams.
Well played to all of those managers.
Stunning set of results.
You just gotta love being in a play-off game at the end of the season.....NOT!!!!!!
As if the drama was not enough pmsl
You just gotta love being in a play-off game at the end of the season.....NOT!!!!!!
As if the drama was not enough pmsl
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 52:
Rangers - MVP #4: 1 CP (wdw)
There's apparently a misconception about the divisional reviews.
They are not (and never have been) forbidden: just enter them as a blog whenever you want. Andrew/SRA e.g. did so.
You even do get (virtual) money for it, up to 50k per week as part of the participation bonus.
You might even use your AI assistant for this if you prefer.
I just don't see why some teams get up to further 100k per week for the fact that their notes show up at another part of the home page.
So please continue to publish them. Surely you're not doing this to get some trophies more easily from those 1500k extra.
Loved your preview of this afternoon's game RAN v HIB - well constructed and unfortunately probably accurate too. (In say unfortunate but it is a win win day for me, and possibly RAN too). I agree AI is with us - shame you might be right about the reviews - although there isn't any evidence of the majority NOT reading them - just a vocal 3-4. But hey! I have more important things to concern me these days so won't bring this up again - it did take around 4,500k out of circulation over the 3 divisions so in one fell swopp SESL has reduced the glut of cash it once had - another success! And we will have our 4,000k.
Looks good but pity it doesn't realise that strong refs do not favour the home side and it's a neutral ground anyway.
Very happy to see we're top overachievers in Div2. With the youthanising (can't be the right word) of our squad, feels pride-endicing.
AI absolutely can do the match reports quickly and well as shown below, think we have to look into it! Do we link the site to the bot and ask them to explain the results? The below example is excellent.
Season 59 | 12-Sep-25 | ||||
- Division 1 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | top 17 | league finish | over / under achiever |
||
12 | Stenhousemuir | 19.2 | 4 | 8 | OVER achiever |
16 | Albion Rovers | 18.0 | 8 | 8 | OVER achiever |
8 | Fraserburgh | 20.1 | 2 | 6 | |
9 | Dundee FC | 19.9 | 3 | 6 | |
14 | Dumbarton | 19.1 | 9 | 5 | |
7 | Stranraer | 20.1 | 6 | 1 | |
1 | Motherwell | 22.1 | 1 | 0 | |
4 | Arbroath | 21.2 | 5 | -1 | |
15 | Annan Athletic | 19.1 | 16 | -1 | |
13 | East Fife | 19.2 | 15 | -2 | |
10 | Elgin City | 19.7 | 13 | -3 | |
11 | Nairn County | 19.4 | 14 | -3 | |
3 | Hearts | 21.3 | 7 | -4 | |
5 | Hibernian | 20.8 | 11 | -6 | |
6 | Clyde FC | 20.2 | 12 | -6 | |
2 | Livingston | 21.6 | 10 | -8 | under achiever |
- Division 2 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | top 17 | league finish | over / under achiever |
||
10 | Peterhead | 18.6 | 4 | 6 | OVER achiever |
14 | Queen of the South | 17.8 | 9 | 5 | |
6 | Raith Rovers | 19.2 | 3 | 3 | |
9 | Rangers | 18.8 | 6 | 3 | |
13 | Saint Mirren | 17.8 | 11 | 2 | |
2 | Saint Johnstone | 20.5 | 1 | 1 | |
3 | Hamilton Accies | 19.7 | 2 | 1 | |
15 | Celtic | 17.5 | 14 | 1 | |
5 | Deveronvale | 19.4 | 5 | 0 | |
16 | Ayr United | 16.6 | 16 | 0 | |
7 | Kilmarnock | 19.0 | 8 | -1 | |
11 | Dundee United | 18.2 | 12 | -1 | |
12 | Clydebank | 18.1 | 13 | -1 | |
1 | Edinburgh City | 21.8 | 7 | -6 | |
4 | Cowdenbeath | 19.5 | 10 | -6 | |
8 | Greenock Morton | 18.9 | 15 | -7 | under achiever |
- Division 3 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | top 17 | league finish | over / under achiever |
||
16 | Aberdeen | 16.6 | 5 | 11 | OVER achiever |
11 | Alloa Athletic | 17.7 | 1 | 10 | |
14 | Montrose | 17.1 | 7 | 7 | |
15 | Stirling | 16.9 | 8 | 7 | |
7 | Forfar Athletic | 18.4 | 4 | 3 | |
9 | Ross County | 18.3 | 9 | 0 | |
13 | East Stirlingshire | 17.4 | 13 | 0 | |
1 | Partick Thistle | 21.2 | 2 | -1 | |
2 | Cove Rangers | 19.7 | 3 | -1 | |
4 | Falkirk | 19.2 | 6 | -2 | |
12 | Berwick | 17.6 | 14 | -2 | |
8 | Queens Park | 18.4 | 11 | -3 | |
6 | Airdrieonians FC | 18.8 | 10 | -4 | |
10 | Inverness | 17.7 | 16 | -6 | |
3 | Brechin City | 19.6 | 12 | -9 | |
5 | Dunfermline Athletic | 19.0 | 15 | -10 | under achiever |
OMG...so its true......Artificial intelligence has taken over from REAL intelligence !!!
Us pathetic humans may as well just lay down and die, we are redundant.
Nobody wants to read the real word or opinions..unless generated by a soulless piece of silican ?
69 years old and it was all a complete waste of time and effort....Oh woe is me.
I acknowledge David Blair's love of divisional reviews, but the kinda sad reality these days is AI can do any match reviews or previews in 1 second.
AI as in Artificial Intelligence. Not Kevin Hull of sesl Airdrie fame!
example:
Homefield Bias: STRONG — Expect decisions to lean toward the home side.
Discipline: STRICT — Cards will fly for dissent or reckless tackles. Players on suspension risk (like Bushiri and Bajrami) should tread carefully.
Series Record: Hibernian leads 26–5–20.
Recent Form: The last 10 meetings are evenly split, with both sides trading dominant wins. Notably:
Hibs won 3–0 at home in Season 58.
Rangers thrashed Hibs 5–0 in Season 55.
The SESL Cup has seen tighter contests, including a 0–0 draw and a 1–0 Hibs win.
Hibernian
Coach: David Blair
Morale: Low (0.127)
Tactics:
Heavy reliance on Opportunistic play (54%)
Minimal pressing or ball control
Key Absences:
Kieron Bowie (FW) & Jim Watson (WG) suspended
Fitness Concerns:
Several defenders and midfielders are doubtful, including Cadden, Milton, Ferguson, and Collins
Rangers
Coach: Bill Ramsay
Morale: High (0.665)
Tactics:
Strong preference for Early Crosses (55%)
Balanced use of Normal and Longball strategies
Key Absences:
Ruben Dias suspended, John Brown injured
Suspension Risks:
Jack Butland (GK), Nedim Bajrami (WG)
Martin Boyle (HIB) vs Neil McCann (RAN) — Both are healthy and capable of turning the tide with pace and precision.
Bushiri’s Discipline — With a high DP and a strict referee, he’s walking a tightrope.
Midfield Battle — Dylan Levitt and Jordan Orbita will need to control tempo against Lewis Ferguson and Connor Barron.
Referee Influence: Hibs may benefit from being a ref himself in SESL, but HIB morale and injury list are concerning.
Rangers’ Depth: Despite missing Dias, their backline remains solid and their attacking options are more stable.
Momentum: Rangers have the edge in morale and tactical clarity.
Here are the latest betting odds for the upcoming Hibernian vs Rangers match, based on the Smarkets exchange:
Outcome | Odds | Return on £10 Bet |
---|---|---|
Rangers Win | 1.54 | £15.40 |
Draw | 3.6 | £36.00 |
Hibernian Win | 4.2 | £42.00 |
These odds suggest Rangers are the clear favorites, with Hibs seen as underdogs despite their historical edge in head-to-head matchups.
The draw is a mid-range option, that would result in a penalty kick shootout.
Shootout scenario may suit HIBS as David Blair has not hidden his wish to play in the Sesl Division 2 rather to try go flat out and try win a trophy one season rather than just keep building bank balance.
Cheers to those who have voted thus far (esp for us!), some very kind comments in there and enjoyed reading them all. Even saw the word Bombastic!
Divisional reviews weren't read by the majority.
When I was near top of table I wanted consume all the write-ups. However mid to lower in Division I'd have skipped reviews.
A vocal handful were very against divisional review 50k payouts I remember last year. The same handful didn't volunteer to take a turn reviewing though 🤔
Wher as the team will play Rangers in a playoff fixture tomorrow, looking at dropping down there are some bright spots in the season. We only need 302k to reach 4,000k and as we already completed our sponsorship target 300k is imminent. One particiaption will take us over with a donation to a 3rd division club. Not only are we at the moment the highest bank balance but we lead in Low morale - at 17% we can only go one way. Bringing in 2 x age 0/17s fully trained was a mistake as they couldn't progress during the season, and failed to make an impact with the higher SL teams we faced.. We learn from mistakes though - wish they would bring back reviewing - I am twiddling thumbs on a Saturday afternoon - takes only a few minutes to see how the team got on... :-)
Fulham 1 - 1 Leeds United
Everton 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 3 - 1 Sunderland
Brentford 0 - 2 Chelsea
West Ham 2 - 1 Tottenham
Burnley 1 - 3 Liverpool
Bournemouth 0 - 2 Brighton
Newcastle 2 - 0 Wolves
Arsenal 4 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Man. City 2 - 2 Man. United
.....yea sorry Paul, got a new homebrew kit for my birthday last week and needed some empties. (Will keep a full one for you.) Six months of bin strikes in Brum now......but I still put them out in the forlorn hope that they might come.......
Everyone, get your bins in! Someone's nicked the black bin we put our bottles in for recycling...
I probably should have reminded teams about this (I did last season twice I believe and 42 managers got the rewards, but I'll confess that after the comeback this season from some teams I began to think my idea had little merit. So I planned to work on the concept that an interested manager would just need the initial announcement to make a claim.
Probably next season the players WILL be aged 0 (Mark gets the final note on that) and up till now we are about halfway through the teams.
Just remember - aged 0 or 1 and put on the Journal page (50k extra if there is a decent synopsis of the lads performance or a % of it).
Post a Journal.
I had almost missed this from David HIB:
__________________________________________________
Quite a variety. But cash been well earned.
Participation Earnings (k) | |||
ABE - 0 | KIL - 30 | PET - 130 | DFA - 0 |
HIB - 790 | BER - 0 | RAN - 150 | AYR - 20 |
INV - 10 | EDI - 585 | CEL - 0 | STJ - 160 |
STE - 140 | QOS - 35 | ALB - 180 | DUU - 90 |
LIV - 335 | ROS - 320 | ALO - 715 | HEA - 220 |
MOT - 690 | COV - 20 | RR - 90 | ELG - 0 |
FAL - 295 | PT - 320 | ANN - 95 | STI - 70 |
COW - 40 | ARB - 345 | SM - 160 | DEE - 640 |
FOR - 30 | CB - 0 | AI - 20 | FRA - 205 |
MON - 0 | DUM - 500 | EST - 105 | CLY - 25 |
HAM - 50 | NAI - 45 | EF - 740 | BRE - 0 |
QP - 115 | DEV - 55 | SRA - 630 | GM - 20 |
Thanks for the quick reply Andrew.
Fulham 1 - 1 Leeds United
Everton 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Sunderland
Brentford 0 - 2 Chelsea
West Ham 1 - 1 Tottenham
Burnley 1 - 3 Liverpool
Bournemouth 1 - 1 Brighton
Newcastle 2 - 0 Wolves
Arsenal 2 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Man. City 2 - 1 Man. United
Can definitely answer those:
EPL preds get you 10k of the way there. Can be convinced otherwise, but that is what they've been since I've been doing participation. This is in part due to your average blog post being 10k. Some blog posts can be 15, 20, or even more due to being involved, well researched, etc.
Most journals average 20k. Some are 15k, some are 25k, just like the blogs. But, if you were to take any given journal and move it to the blogs, it would in theory pay out the same amount. Journals just tend to be more involved and earn more as a result.
Surely it wauld make more sense if we all made predictions on the SPL games ?
After all this is the SESL not the EESL ?
Just wondering folks ?
For the record.
Do EPL Predictions generate any party bonus at all ?
And on the subject of 'Party Bonus'.....can someone please clarify the difference between JOURNAL and BLOG entries and what generates what payments please.
Fulham 2 - 1 Leeds United
Everton 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 1 - 0 Sunderland
Brentford 0 - 1 Chelsea
West Ham 1 - 2 Tottenham
Burnley 0 - 4 Liverpool
Bournemouth 1 - 1 Brighton
Newcastle 3 - 1 Wolves
Arsenal 3 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Man. City 3 - 1 Man. United
Fulham 1-0 Leeds United
Everton 1-0 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 3-0 Sunderland
Brentford 0-2 Chelsea
West Ham 0-1 Tottenham
Burnley 0-2 Liverpool
Bournemouth 0-0 Brighton
Newcastle 2-0 Wolves
Arsenal 1-0 Nottingham Forest
Man. City 2-0 Man. United
Fulham 2-0 Leeds United
Everton 1-1 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 2-1 Sunderland
Brentford 1-3 Chelsea
West Ham 1-1 Tottenham
Burnley 0-3 Liverpool
Bournemouth 1-2 Brighton
Newcastle 3-0 Wolves
Arsenal 3-1 Nottingham Forest
Man City 4-1 Man United
Fulham 2-0 Leeds United
Everton 1-1 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 2-0 Sunderland
Brentford 0-2 Chelsea
West Ham 1-3 Tottenham
Burnley 0-4 Liverpool
Bournemouth 1-0 Brighton
Newcastle 3-0 Wolves
Arsenal 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Man. City 3-1 Man. United
Fulham 2 - 1 Leeds United
Everton 0 - 2 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 2 - 0 Sunderland
Brentford 1 - 2 Chelsea
West Ham 0 - 2 Tottenham
Burnley 0 - 2 Liverpool
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Brighton
Newcastle 4 - 0 Wolves
Arsenal 2 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Man. City 4 - 0 Man. United
International break over and games start again this weekend
Fulham 2 - 1 Leeds United
Everton 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 2 - 0 Sunderland
Brentford 1 - 2 Chelsea
West Ham 1 - 2 Tottenham
Burnley 0 - 2 Liverpool
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Brighton
Newcastle 2 - 0 Wolves
Arsenal 2 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Man. City 2 - 1 Man. United
And the winners are ...
Team | Junk | JvJ |
ALB | 7 | 2 |
DUM | 7 | 2 |
MOT | 7 | 0 |
ARB | 6 | 4 |
HEA | 6 | 3 |
SRA | 6 | 2 |
LIV | 5 | 3 |
NAI | 5 | 3 |
CLY | 5 | 0 |
HIB | 5 | 0 |
ANN | 4 | 3 |
DEE | 4 | 2 |
STE | 4 | 2 |
ELG | 4 | 0 |
FRA | 3 | 0 |
EF | 2 | 0 |
Quite understably not much junk in the final week. Most players can be rested now anyways.
So, with few exceptions, everyone kept their position: ALB and DUM share the honors as SESL's most clever managers.
It was not this clear, though, since this all depended on a single decision.
HIB hosted MOT (losing 0-6) and certainly played a junky and junkworthy lineup: all stall, bad GK - but with 60% SL. 1% less and MOT would have clinched the CMT/League Double.
Overall, match day 30 showed the 2nd highest average with 68.1% - only match day 1 was still slightly higher.
The race for the most honored team showed a surprise finish ...
Team | AVG |
ANN | 63,7 |
EF | 63,6 |
DEE | 62,9 |
LIV | 62,3 |
FRA | 62,2 |
NAI | 62,1 |
CLY | 61,6 |
HIB | 61,4 |
HEA | 61,4 |
STE | 61,3 |
ELG | 61,0 |
MOT | 60,9 |
SRA | 60,9 |
ALB | 60,7 |
DUM | 60,2 |
ARB | 59,2 |
Long term leader EF was passed by ANN in the very last match and by the slimmest of margins.
ANN can claim the tile "most respected manager".
Both are honored with playing Div2 next season, too.
At least 3rd placed DEE stays in Div1 for another season.
It's like the scene in Gavin and Stacey when the lads go to the foam party and they are excited waiting for the foam. That's me. When will the final results of the Clever Manager thing be announced. I don't think DUM played any trash this weekend so it won't be me but who then...
Well done Paul.
Ran a great feature and kept a tight ship,
and don't fret over a few blips given the sterling job you have consistently delivered all season long.
Andrew, thanks for pointing that out, payments now made. Probably to the wrong clubs given the stream of mistakes I'm making....
The following teams receive Prediction League through Week 10 6th September 2025:
COW(15) DEE(15) EF(15) ELG(15) FAL(15) MOT(15) RAN(15)
Sorry to be another person asking questions of you, Paul. But is there a weekly cash prize for round 10? Perhaps I missed it, but I didn't see it paid out.
Colin, thanks for spotting my error, I think the correct prize table is this one....
Season 59 Prizes | ||
---|---|---|
Place | Team | Prize |
1 | Cowdenbeath | 3 OTF |
2 | Dundee, Motherwell | 2 OTF |
3 | East Fife | 1 OTF |
4 | Falkirk | 2 TP |
5 | Deveronvale, Dumbarton, Elgin | 1 CP |
You'd think after all these years I'll plan for one more game....
Sorry Paul, my mistake.
I see that DEV are the only team listed as 5th but that they have the same points total as DUM and ELG (48). Hence my assumption that my mate Andrew had done me a turn.
WIlliam, I can only see six points for you, you got the matches at Berwick, Alloa, Brechin, Falkirk (banker) and Inverness correct - but please point out my mistake if I've got this wrong.
EDI
ABE v COV 2
BER v EST 2
AI v FOR 2
ALO v MON 1
BRE v QP 1
DFA v STI 1
FAL v ROS 1(B)
INV v PT 2
Let's just call it an intentional act of altruism, and definitely not me tripping over my own feet.
I have nothing Steve. Nothing.
Apart from literally 1 spare TP.
Depending on when we get our 1000k in end of season awards and sponsorship I might be in the position to have to get rid of 121k.
So if you have 1 TP that you don't need I'll be willing to pay over the odds for it.
Thinking that EDI got 7 points this week too ?
Cameron floated the idea of using the best 5, rather than best 7 for the PL.
Have done a quick simulation and it looks like this at the top
1 | Cowdembeath | 43 | Were 1st |
1 | Motherwell | 43 | 2nd |
3 | Dundee | 41 | 2nd |
3 | Elgin City | 41 | 6th |
5 | East Fife | 40 | 4th |
5 | Falkirk | 40 | 5th |
5 | Dumbarton | 40 | 6th |
So very little change, but East Fife drop one place....so I am very much against!
Glad that MOT did a last minute change as the first submission would have cost those in 5th place to drop to 6th and no CP. Well done Andrew!
Quite happy to manage 48 points given I missed two weeks. As Cameron says, can't afford to miss any weeks.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Aug 31st:
ALO(30) ARB(20) CLY(5) DUM(40) DEE(45) EF(50) EDI(50) FAL(30) FOR(10) FRA(25) HAM(50) HEA(10) HIB(40) LIV(35) MOT(50) PT(10) QP(10) ROS(40) STJ(20) SM(20)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Aug 24th:
ALO(50) ARB(10) DUM(50) DEE(50) EF(50) EDI(15) FAL(20) FRA(15) HEA(15) HIB(35) LIV(15) MOT(25) QP(20) ROS(20) STE(20) SRA(50)
Great job running this.
A ton of admin I would think.
Remind me not to miss a few weeks as no coming back then.
Any appetite for only using top 5 scores from a possible 10? Might be more inclusive for more managers to join in if they miss a few weeks and just drop out from taking part?
Sad to see my last-minute prediction league edit cost me 86k or so in prize money. Lucky that it didn't also cost me an OTF! The thinking being I needed to change one pick to give me a chance of catching COW - shame I changed the wrong one to a draw.
At least the silver lining is that by getting 2nd place tied with DEE instead of 2nd place outright, more managers will get a prize, so that's a plus
Been a little bit since I've seen a 5 game suspension, like ELG will be facing at the start of next season. Last one I recall was a HIB player getting a red and a yellow or two reds in the same weekend. Brutal!
A high-scoring final round (23 entries, averaging 5.78) saw seven managers each score seven points to gain an invaluable 15k for their clubs. Congratulations to Paul at East Fife, Bill at Rangers, Andrew at Motherwell, Jason at Elgin City, Eduard at Dundee, Andy at Falkirk and Alan at Cowdenbeath. Particular congratulations to Jason who predicted the draw between Dunfermline and Stirling. Five-five! The man landed on a pinhead!
The leaders all scored well and so there was no change at the top, Cowdenbeath taking the title, two points ahead of Dundee and Motherwell. I have a feeling that's two years in a row for Alan? The final prize awards are shown at the bottom of this post, you should be receiving them sometime in the close season.
Prediction | ABE v COV | BER v EST | AI v FOR | ALO v MON | BRE v QP | DFA v STI | FAL v ROS | INV v PT |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 52% | 43% | 43% | 100% | 65% | 30% | 87% | 9% |
Away | 39% | 39% | 52% | 0% | 30% | 65% | 4% | 91% |
Draw | 9% | 17% | 4% | 0% | 4% | 4% | 9% | 0% |
Banker Count | 9% | 0% | 0% | 57% | 0% | 0% | 17% | 13% |
Round 10 | |
---|---|
Team | Points |
Cowdenbeath | 7 |
Dundee | 7 |
East Fife | 7 |
Elgin City | 7 |
Falkirk | 7 |
Motherwell | 7 |
Rangers | 7 |
Deveronvale | 6 |
Dumbarton | 6 |
East Stirlingshire | 6 |
Edinburgh | 6 |
Hearts | 6 |
Queens Park | 6 |
Stirling | 6 |
Ayr | 5 |
Forfar | 5 |
Hibernian | 5 |
Partick Thistle | 5 |
St Johnstone | 5 |
Stranraer | 5 |
Arbroath | 4 |
Livingstone | 4 |
Ross County | 4 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | D1 44 | D2 47 | D3 50 | Best 7 | Cup | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R8 | R9 | R10 | R7 | Total | |
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 6 | 4 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 47 | 7 | 54 |
2 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 7 | 7 | 44 | 8 | 52 |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 7 | 44 | 8 | 52 |
4 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 7 | 7 | 43 | 7 | 50 |
5 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 6 | 6 | 7 | 43 | 6 | 49 | |
6 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 41 | 7 | 48 | |
6 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 40 | 8 | 48 | ||
6 | Elgin City | 5 | 9 | 3 | 7 | 3 | 4 | 6 | 7 | 41 | 7 | 48 | |
9 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 8 | 7 | 4 | 2 | 7 | 4 | 40 | 7 | 47 | |
10 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 7 | 4 | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 40 | 6 | 46 | |
10 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 8 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 39 | 7 | 46 |
12 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 36 | 8 | 44 |
13 | Rangers | 7 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 2 | 7 | 39 | 4 | 43 | |
13 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 35 | 8 | 43 |
15 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 37 | 5 | 42 | ||
15 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 34 | 8 | 42 |
17 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 6 | 34 | 7 | 41 | |
18 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 7 | 5 | 35 | 5 | 40 | |
18 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 7 | 3 | 6 | 6 | 40 | 40 | ||
20 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 32 | 7 | 39 | ||
21 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 2 | 7 | 38 | 38 | |||
21 | Arbroath | 6 | 3 | 6 | 6 | 2 | 6 | 4 | 33 | 5 | 38 | ||
21 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 34 | 4 | 38 |
24 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 27 | 8 | 35 | |||
25 | St Johnstone | 2 | 6 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 27 | 7 | 34 | ||
26 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 3 | 7 | 22 | 22 | ||||||
27 | Cove Rangers | 3 | 5 | 5 | 13 | 13 | |||||||
28 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | 3 | 5 | 12 | 12 | |||||||
29 | Queen of the South | 3 | 5 | 8 | 8 | ||||||||
30 | Dunfermline | 4 | 4 | 4 | |||||||||
30 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 0 | 4 | 4 | ||||||||
32 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 | 1 |
Season 59 Prizes | ||
---|---|---|
Place | Team | Prize |
1 | Cowdenbeath | 3 OTF |
2 | Dundee, Motherwell | 2 OTF |
3 | East Fife | 1 OTF |
4 | Falkirk | 2 TP |
5 | Deveronvale | 1 CP |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 51:
Hearts - MVP #4: 1 CP (DwW)
Fraserburgh - MVP #8: 25k (wWw)
Motherwell - MVP #9: 25k (wwW)
Ayr United - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #10: 25k (WwD)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 50:
Dundee FC - MVP #11: 25k (WWw)
Kilmarnock - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #7: 25k (WdW)
Falkirk - MVP #5: 25k (Www)
I agree - well constructed last day relegation situation scenarios well explained. For my team I think you are spot on - I need one of the 3 clubs in the 10th -12th spots to get within 3 points of us with one game left otherwise we are safe. We don't deserve to be but it's a game and if we enter the playoffs we will have about the lowest morale around. Abd who knows - we might get bumped down the way - to "2nd division obscurity" - can't wait. If it doesn't happen between roam day and next Saturday it will surely happen next season.
At least we will have our played for 4,000k.. 💰💰
Excellent DV1 review and sets it out quite simply. I expect we'll fail and pick up a point dropping into auto relegation.
Need to update that as CLY have been playing at Hamilton's old ground, at New Douglas Park. Maybe thats why we haven't gained as many home points as we need
..you thought Aberdeen would easily "win" the Wooden Spoon. Worst T17 (and maybe T11) at the start of the season and not even enough cash to buy 20 CP. They still have the worst T11 and T17 but somehow are in 5th place. We might hang on to first place for +10 on the over achievers and Aberdeen might slip to 6th to also be on +10 but surely what has Ross has achieved is more than what I've done.
Don't get me wrong I think I've had an excellent season with trading, participation and tactics, and look like making a profit, too, and deserve and appreciate the votes I'm getting, but I also think it's too one sided.
Anyway, we don't need the OTF.
THe last of the season, make the most of it!
Annan Athletic (28 pts): Rooted to the bottom like a stubborn weed, Annan’s attack has scored fewer goals than most teams manage by accident. Away at Hearts (who fancy scoring for fun) and then home to Dumbarton, it would take a miracle — or at least the ghost of Pelé in disguise — for them to survive. Verdict: straight down.
East Fife (28 pts): Slightly better but still hopeless, East Fife must beat either Stenhousemuir or Livingston to stand a chance. Unfortunately, their defence has been leakier than a cheap teapot. Expect grim resignation at Methil. Verdict: straight down.
Nairn County (30 pts): Fixture list from hell — Dundee away, Fraserburgh at home. Dundee are chasing glory, Fraserburgh score for fun. Nairn might as well start programming their satnav for Division Two grounds now. Verdict: straight down.
Livingston (31 pts): Away at Arbroath then home to East Fife. That final match is essentially a relegation playoff in disguise. Win it and they’re safe; lose it and they’re polishing their passports to the land of Tuesday night trips to Peterhead.
Clyde FC (32 pts): Two home ties, Elgin and Albion. Fortress Broadwood? Not exactly, but home advantage this late in the season is priceless. Four points keeps them safe. Two or fewer and the drop zone beckons.
Elgin City (33 pts): Clyde away, Arbroath home. Elgin fans are nervously chewing fingernails down to the knuckles. If Clyde beat them, they’re in freefall. Playoff destiny is almost calling.
Dumbarton (35 pts): Albion away, Annan at home. Even a single point secures safety. Two points and they can start laughing at the rest.
Hibernian (36 pts): In theory safe, but with suspensions galore, they could be comedy late entrants to the scrap. Lose to Motherwell and Stenhousemuir, while Clyde, Liv and Elgin all win, and Hibs could tumble into 11th. Imagine explaining that to the board.
Verdict: Annan, East Fife, and Nairn doomed. The final automatic spot is between Livingston and Elgin, with Clyde and one other condemned to playoff hell. Strap in — the SESL relegation rollercoaster has only just started rattling.
Pos | Team | Pts | Fixtures | Predicted | Final | Fate |
7 | Hearts | 37 | ANN (H), DEE (H) | +3 vs ANN | 40 | Safe |
8 | Albion | 36 | DUM (H), CLY (A) | +3 vs DUM | 39 | Safe |
9 | Hibs | 36 | MOT (H), STE (A) | 0 (suspension chaos) | 36 | Just safe |
10 | Dumb | 35 | ALB (A), ANN (H) | +3 vs ANN | 38 | Safe |
11 | Elgin | 33 | CLY (A), ARB (H) | +1 draw vs ARB | 34 | Playoff |
12 | Clyde | 32 | ELG (H), ALB (H) | +2 (draws both) | 34 | Playoff |
13 | Liv | 31 | ARB (A), EF (H) | +1 (beat EF, lose ARB) | 32 | Relegated |
14 | Nairn | 30 | DEE (A), FRA (H) | 0 | 30 | Relegated |
15 | East Fife | 28 | STE (H), LIV (A) | +1 (draw LIV) | 29 | Relegated |
16 | Annan | 28 | HEA (A), DUM (A) | 0 | 28 | Relegated |
......any thoughts?
Going into the final two games of the season and trying to remain under the radar - which is my style, but you knew that already - and someone has to highlight the junk think - again.
I just can't catch a break.
poll vote on front page for your pick.
I think there is a slight drop off for GK effectiveness, as every on-target shot has at least a 10% chance of scoring, regardless of the GK level.
Free is always good!
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 49:
ALB(200) ANN(200) ARB(300) COW(200) DEV(200) DUM(200) DEE(200) EF(200) EDI(200) ELG(200) FAL(200) FRA(200) HEA(300) HIB(200) INV(200) KIL(200) MOT(200) ROS(200) STJ(300) SRA(200)
Short answer: Al was wrong.
There are a couple of limiting effects, but they are compensated in the long run.
Therefore: bigger is (and stays) better.
The game engine would in theory work slightly better if the max player SL would be around 25, maybe 30
But I don't see a consensual way to get there.
Limiting PU would be a serious problem, since this would devalue already acquired players. E.g. a 0/8 or 1/20 would be worth much less with PU8.
If we really want lower SLs there are much smoother and less invasive ways.
I am sure I was told that after a certain level (mid 30s I think) the returns aren't as good. The players don't perform pro rata based on their level after SL30. Have a feeling it was Al Sellers who mentioned this many moons ago. Certainly I panic when faced by a team boasting half their line up 30SLs+ but on occasions the expected slaughter doesn't materialise.
Having said that if the idea was to bring down the levels gradually - and perhaps shift the resources over to peripheral players, the obvious method would be to cut the max PU from 10 to say 8 for players aged 2+ but keep the PU10 for ages 0 and 1 for say 2 seasons to test the water.
Or maybe not... my TV programme is waiting.....
It's not often I admit that I'm wrong, but ...
Last week I claimed
Realistically, it's a two horse race between MOT and everybody's darling ARB.
So wrong!
ALB and DUM now share the top spot with 2 matches remaining.
MOT and ARB are still in the race, even #8 HIB has a very small chance left.
On the other end, EF is quite likely going down as the most respected team.
Team | Junk | JvJ | AVG |
ALB | 7 | 2 | 59,4 |
DUM | 7 | 2 | 59,7 |
MOT | 7 | 0 | 60,7 |
ARB | 6 | 4 | 58,9 |
HEA | 6 | 3 | 60,8 |
SRA | 6 | 2 | 60,2 |
NAI | 5 | 3 | 61,4 |
HIB | 5 | 0 | 60,9 |
LIV | 4 | 3 | 62,9 |
ANN | 4 | 3 | 63,3 |
STE | 4 | 2 | 60,8 |
DEE | 4 | 2 | 62,5 |
ELG | 4 | 0 | 60,3 |
CLY | 4 | 0 | 61,6 |
FRA | 3 | 0 | 62,4 |
EF | 2 | 0 | 63,7 |
This week's JOTW showed how interesting matches with junk GKs can be:
ALB vs HEA: A 0-3 at min 30 could be turned into a 5-3. Maybe we should limit the GK skill to SL10.
Betting on Oconnor to score instead of Nicky Riley might have been the difference between being able to buy 50 CP vs only 45 CP for next season. Seems MOT had trouble getting the goalscorers right whilst betting this season!
James Tucker raises decent points of view.
SL30+ ought be the exceptionally top end payers in Sesl?
Think of the £100 million plus value players in English Premier League.
How you go about clawing the high SL back a handful of SL points - well, answers on a postcard.
I have to say that in the last few seasons Mark has tinkered with the cash flow and i believe that that is now starting to take effect.
YES, there are more players with a SL of 30+...BUT it is my belief that the overall bank balances(all teams AVERAGE) as we approach the end of the current season are noticably lower. Dont take my word for it....check out the STATS page. Fewer teams about to hit 4000k and many more teams at the lower end of the total KKKs.
Maybe i am reading it wrong but if i am reading those figues correctly then i am assuming managers are simply managing their finances better and coaching/training their players more efficiently.
SL30+ players is a symptom of too much resource. And yes they do have an impact on the game mechanics considering the shot resolution calculation, but really it was an example I was using of the inflation we are seeing in SL levels because of it.
As I said I am a minority view point. I have been playing a longtime, and I think the game played slightly better when there were fewer resources and top players rarely got above 30-34SL, and I am not begrudging anyones successes at managing those resources better than I seem to manage.
I will bore-off now and find a chocolate biscuit!
The following teams receive Betting on Cup Final through match 49:
ALB(-100) ANN(-100) ARB(-100) COW(-100) DEV(-100) DUM(-100) DEE(-100) EF(-100) EDI(-100) ELG(-100) FAL(-100) FRA(-100) HEA(-100) HIB(-100) INV(-100) KIL(-100) LIV(-100) MOT(-100) ROS(-100) STJ(-100) SRA(-100)
Restrict age 0 SL 10 players at auction if this is an issue?
However it may just be the switched-on and active managers working the ageing tables and patience to build the big SL players over a few seasons.
DEE for example took over a new manager 3 seasons ago when DEE in Div 2.
Today DEE have eight SL30+ players. That has taken great effort.
Almost any team could make some progress with some focus and planning.
DEE have dominated both cup last 2 seasons.
DEE bid in most auctions.
DEE do prediction leagues.
DEE does frequent journals worth reading.
What is stopping many other teams making similar progress DEE have in a short period of time?
If SL30+ players are perceived as an issue, is that because those teams without such players havent tried to build such players?
That is not an issue with the game mechanics.
I like Chocolate Biscuits, particularly McVitites dark chocolate digestitves which I learn I have been eating wrongly all these years and that they should be consumed choclate side down in contact with the tongue. I can easily demolish a pack in short order. But too many of them are likely not good for me, and so I rarely buy them, and plus the kids now also demolish the pack before I get to it!
The same is true here. I like having lots of cash, I like having very high level players, I like having lots of CP and TP. But is it the best for the game? The balance of the decision making and the match outcomes I think get unblanced if there are too many resources. Now I know I am in a minority view here and I actually think the POTY award is a good one, as it is both a Manager's choice, not random, and balanced towards giving more to the lower division teams, but it is yet another chocolate biscuit.
And to your point Dave SL30+ players are everywhere the three teams at the bottom of division 3 have a total of 13 players at SL30 or more. Is it time to consider whether we need to start to reduce the amount of resources (principally cash) to begin to see overall SL levels drop?
Mr Tucker of dancing in the streets of Raith fame, makes a fair point on the "multiple SL30+ player" that pop up at the top teams.
Most need be created from 0/10, or a big auction buy and smart attention to the ageing tables. No junk players for sure.
Clever management.
A good initiative.
Well played Mr Blair.
Bonus SL adds to PU I think I remember from last season, so no mega players will be created for YPOTS who would have seen 10 SL added with or without YPOTY scheme.
Teenage Player of the year or vessel for making a brew.
To the detractors of the POTS scheme. Guessing I won't be getting an entry from a couple or more of you - also guessing if it was an age 0 player only then managers wouldn't have to do anything to earn the rewards - just sit back and we can just add on the SL to one, or the only, age 0 a team has. Actually thought this was a good extra -anyway thanks to the lads so far who have taken it seriously. I could save myself a good bit of work if you convinced Mark to scrap it. Go on!
I'd like to suggest a change to the cup betting system. I may have suggested this before, but anyway....
Instead of paying out fixed odds of 2-1, I suggest paying out of a prize pool. Say 10 people make bets, creating a prize pool of £500k. That pool is then divided equally between all managers predicting correctly. So if 8 managers bet on one team and two on the other, the winnings for one set would be 62.5k each, for the other, 250k each. Makes backing the outsider much more attractive.
You could of course, multiply the prize pool by 1.5 or some fixed amount if you wished.
Player of the team: youth
Can we not find a way to make this the acronym?
I'll slip you my lucky pin you can use - now where's my 300k? Nothing? Okay I'll not try too hard next time and maybe Andy will go top.. 👍👍👍
Not opposition to the system David. Just clarifying that it is young players now and poking some fun at the VYPOTS idea. Please keep it going no criticism of you.
Also was told I had to post to get to 100K party bonus, so two birds with one stone. I hope you prefer this to some anodyne contribution.
But, I have been consistent in my theme of noting ever increasing SL and cash to the league. This award adds 96 TP in to the league at no cost with actual total value of ~9600K. Most managers are perfectly happy with this, but these days almost all teams carry multiple SL30+ player, where for many seasons these were rare players.
Just checking Journals and 5 lads so far have been nominated. Despite opposition to the system even DEE has selected a lad, and why not? It is a freebie and trust me I'll not be suggesting anything again - never tried to please everybody, but as time goes by it is getting harder to please the majority. Now to check out MY lad seeing as how it looks like I will be staying in the 1st division.
Without checking every team I am unsure every team has an age 0, so wouldn't have a qualifying player.
Mark actually changed it to be age 0 or 1 - I accept a team's "best" player may not be the 0 or 1 lad - but it will be a bonus for him whatever.
Not every player picked last year would have been the team's POTS - in some cases a lad who the manager wished to have a bonus put on perhaps to extend his career without actually using up CPs was awarded the bonus. I still have last season's picks for all 42 teams.
Treat it like a "free TP/CPs" bonus and just select (and properly comment on the choice) and accept the Commish's handout. More positivity, lads. there will be lads out there happy to just send in their youngsters.
If we just restricted to Age 0 ;-)
Is this a change from last time. - "Player must be aged 0 or 1 as he ends this season – nobody older.". Last season I thought they had to be Age 2 or more. To keep with the theme of the award it see ms less likely that the POTS would be a junior player?
Gents,
Mark is happy to for my Player of the Season (POTS) per team to be run again after this season finishes, but a couple of the rules have been adjusted as below:
42 managers took advantage of this last season, so why not take part, and do it NOW whilst it is still fresh..??
I'll slip you my lucky pin you can use - now where's my 300k? Nothing? Okay I'll not try too hard next time and maybe Andy will go top.. 👍👍👍
Maybe one day I will beat you in these premier league predictions. I just can't seem to get first in either prediction league! I need to quit expecting anything of use from clubs like Aston Villa, I guess.
A very tough week to predict.
Very close at the top but as often happens David Blair comes away winning the gameweek.
Special mention for Dave Smyth who managed a 0, a feat thats never happened in the SESL predictions before. Though he did miss out on predicting the 1st game which Chelsea won, the 1 result that everyone did get.
David Blair 6.5
Andrew Foss Grant 6.0
Andy Shaw 6.0
Les Lithgo 5.5
Alon Atie 5.5
Bryce Kalmbach 4.5
Paul Cockyne 3.0
Dave Smyth 0.0 (9 games)
Fear not Paul. I think you have built up more than enough goodwill with your sterling work in Sesl to be allowed a few blips.
🙌
...to Dundee and the other team for the incorrect payouts.
I noticed that the list of payout categories includes "pre-season orders cock-up" but not, sadly, "prediction league payout cock-up", which makes me think I must be the first person ever to cock up the prediction league payouts.
An unwelcome record...
The following teams receive Adjustment through Correction to Round 9 Winnings:
DEE(17) DUU(-17)
This is scandalous. How can this be allowed.
You too can gain participation bonus cash - just like me - if you make a comment on the blog. It's easy and fun. Also, if you haven't managed to get 100k in participation bonus and need that cash, just cut n paste for ease. Obviously, don't copy this guff.
> ANN(17) DUM(17) DUU(17) EF(17) PT(17) ROS(17)
Scandalous!!!
Once more Dundee FC - the real and only deal in town - gets mixed up with this minor club from also somewhere around here!
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 9 30th August 2025:
ANN(17) DUM(17) DUU(17) EF(17) PT(17) ROS(17)
Round nine of the Prediction League saw 22 entrants averaging 5.86, a high score reflecting that, on the whole, this was a fairly easy round. Everyone backed Celtic to beat Rangers, with 36% selecting this as their banker. At the other end of the scale, the wins for Greenock Morton, James at Raith Rovers and Hamilton were missed by most.
Six managers (Rob at Ross County, Raymond at Partick Thistle, Dan at Annan, Paul at East Fife, Colin at Dumbarton and Eduard at Dundee) managed to score seven points and each earns a life-changing 17k for their club.
Cowdenbeath have a two-point lead over Dundee and Motherwell going into the final round, which is next Saturday. They all have a four-point round to drop, so all depends on how they perform in round 10. It’s the Division 3 matches, and the entry form is on the Notebook.
Prediction | AYR v KIL | GM v QOS | DUU v RR | COW v STJ | CB v SM | CEL v RAN | DEV v PET | EDI v HAM |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 0% | 14% | 55% | 0% | 77% | 0% | 95% | 82% |
Away | 95% | 86% | 18% | 95% | 9% | 100% | 0% | 9% |
Draw | 5% | 0% | 27% | 5% | 14% | 0% | 5% | 9% |
Banker Count | 18% | 0% | 0% | 5% | 9% | 36% | 27% | 5% |
Round 9 | |
---|---|
Team | Points |
Annan | 7 |
Dumbarton | 7 |
Dundee | 7 |
East Fife | 7 |
Partick Thistle | 7 |
Ross County | 7 |
Arbroath | 6 |
Cowdenbeath | 6 |
Deveronvale | 6 |
East Stirlingshire | 6 |
Elgin City | 6 |
Falkirk | 6 |
Forfar | 6 |
Hibernian | 6 |
Queens Park | 6 |
Stirling | 6 |
Stranraer | 6 |
Edinburgh | 5 |
Livingston | 5 |
Motherwell | 5 |
Hearts | 4 |
Rangers | 2 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | D1 44 | D2 47 | D3 50 | Best 7 | Cup | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R8 | R9 | R10 | R7 | Total | |
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 6 | 4 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 6 | 44 | 7 | 51 | |
2 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 7 | 41 | 8 | 49 | |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 41 | 8 | 49 | |
4 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 7 | 40 | 7 | 47 | |
5 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 39 | 7 | 46 | ||
6 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 6 | 6 | 39 | 6 | 45 | ||
6 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 8 | 7 | 4 | 2 | 7 | 38 | 7 | 45 | ||
8 | Elgin City | 5 | 9 | 3 | 7 | 3 | 4 | 6 | 37 | 7 | 44 | ||
9 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 7 | 4 | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 37 | 6 | 43 | ||
9 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 8 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 36 | 7 | 43 | |
11 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 6 | 7 | 34 | 8 | 42 | |||
11 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 3 | 6 | 34 | 8 | 42 | |
13 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 6 | 33 | 8 | 41 | |
13 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 33 | 8 | 41 | |
15 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 2 | 7 | 38 | 38 | |||
15 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 7 | 33 | 5 | 38 | ||
15 | Rangers | 7 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 2 | 34 | 4 | 38 | ||
18 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 32 | 5 | 37 | |||
18 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 30 | 7 | 37 | ||
18 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 33 | 4 | 37 | |
21 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 7 | 3 | 6 | 36 | 36 | |||
22 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 27 | 8 | 35 | |||
23 | Arbroath | 6 | 3 | 6 | 6 | 2 | 6 | 29 | 5 | 34 | |||
23 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 27 | 7 | 34 | |||
25 | St Johnstone | 2 | 6 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 22 | 7 | 29 | |||
26 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 3 | 7 | 22 | 22 | ||||||
27 | Cove Rangers | 3 | 5 | 5 | 13 | 13 | |||||||
28 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | 3 | 5 | 12 | 12 | |||||||
29 | Queen of the South | 3 | 5 | 8 | 8 | ||||||||
30 | Dunfermline | 4 | 4 | 4 | |||||||||
30 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 0 | 4 | 4 | ||||||||
32 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 | 1 |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 48:
Stenhousemuir - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Raith Rovers - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #7: 25k (wwW)
Stirling - MVP #3: 1 TP (DwW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 47:
Dundee FC - MVP #10: 25k (WWw)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #9: 25k (wWw)
Rangers - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
Montrose - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Cove Rangers - MVP #8: 25k (WwW)
Sunderland 1-2 Brentford
Chelsea void Fulham (game has kicked off)
Aston Villa 3-1 Crystal Palace
Man United 2-2 Burnley
Tottenham 3-0 Bournemouth
Liverpool 1-1 Arsenal
Nottingham Forest 2-0 West Ham
Wolves 0-0 Everton
Leeds United 1-2 Newcastle
Brighton 2-4 Man City
Still early in the season so I have no idea yet what I think about most of these teams.
Sunderland 1-2 Brentford
Chelsea 2-1 Fulham
Aston Villa 3-1 Crystal Palace
Man United 2-0 Burnley
Tottenham 3-0 Bournemouth
Liverpool 3-2 Arsenal
Nottingham Forest 2-0 West Ham
Wolves 0-2 Everton
Leeds United 1-2 Newcastle
Brighton 2-2 Man City
Sunderland 2-1 Brentford
Chelsea 3-0 Fulham
Aston Villa 1-1 Crystal Palace
Man United 2-1 Burnley
Tottenham 3-2 Bournemouth
Liverpool 1-2 Arsenal
Nottingham Forest 2-1 West Ham
Wolves 0-0 Everton
Leeds United 2-1 Newcastle
Brighton 1-3 Man City
Sunderland 1-1 Brentford
Chelsea 3-1 Fulham
Aston Villa 1-1 Crystal Palace
Man United 1-2 Burnley
Tottenham 2-0 Bournemouth
Liverpool 2-1 Arsenal
Nottingham Forest 2-1 West Ham
Wolves 1-1 Everton
Leeds United 0-2 Newcastle
Brighton 0-1 Man City
Sunderland 1-2 Brentford
Chelsea 2-0 Fulham
Aston Villa 1-0 Crystal Palace
Man United 3-1 Burnley
Tottenham 2-1 Bournemouth
Liverpool 0-1 Arsenal
Nottingham Forest 3-1 West Ham
Wolves 0-1 Everton
Leeds United 1-0 Newcastle
Brighton 0-1 Man City
Sunderland 1-1 Brentford
Chelsea 3-0 Fulham
Aston Villa 2-1 Crystal Palace
Man United 2-1 Burnley
Tottenham 3-1 Bournemouth
Liverpool 2-1 Arsenal
Nottingham Forest 2-1 West Ham
Wolves 1-1 Everton
Leeds United 1-1 Newcastle
Brighton 1-3 Man City
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 46:
FOR(150)
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It's Friday. As Monday was a bank holiday in England, I need to get the garden waste bin in.
And enter the PL....
5 teams have used junk when playing HIBs. There's been 0 junk vs junk games involving HIBs. And the average line-up percent HIBs have faced is 61.1%
"Junk" criteria is subjective.
I would like to understand this a little better so taking my team's rating of:
HIB 5 0 61.1
does it mean I have used 5 less than 50% lineups so far (really?) and that NOBODY has used a less than 50% lineup against us?
(I am assuming 61.1 is the average lineup used by us or by my opponents?)
Go on, humour me, please? It will gain you and me some participation bonus cash.. :-)
Quiet season for CLY right enough.
MOT will likely top "clever manager" and Div 1 as it's human nature I'd guess if another team look at their 2 fixtures on any Saturday then more of their focus could be on the lower positioned team in league table they face that weekend as perceived more likely to win. And go easy on the higher ranked opponent.
ARB had that perceived advantage last season as teams played weak against us assuming they'd more than average would lose.
Had HIB maintained his early good form this season, then a strong start in league can lead to weak lineups being faced, so staying at the top may get easier.
The heat is on SESL's most prestigeous trophy: the clever management trophy.
And it looks like another double again. After ARB's win of both CMT and the minor Div1 trophy, we might just see a repeat.
During recent weeks many players threw their junk lineups vs MOT in their league matches for whatever reasons (MOT are neither current champions nor the strongest squad!?).
The ranking doesn't care about the reasons, MOT are the new CMT #1.
Team | Junk | JvJ | AVG |
MOT | 7 | 0 | 60,4 |
ARB | 6 | 4 | 58,3 |
DUM | 6 | 2 | 59,8 |
ALB | 6 | 1 | 59,4 |
NAI | 5 | 3 | 60,9 |
HEA | 5 | 2 | 60,4 |
SRA | 5 | 2 | 60,6 |
HIB | 5 | 0 | 61,1 |
LIV | 4 | 3 | 62,7 |
ANN | 4 | 3 | 62,9 |
STE | 4 | 2 | 60,6 |
ELG | 4 | 0 | 60,3 |
DEE | 3 | 2 | 62,5 |
CLY | 3 | 0 | 61,8 |
FRA | 3 | 0 | 62,3 |
EF | 2 | 0 | 63,7 |
Theoretically, anyone in the upper half could still take the CMT.
Realistically, it's a two horse race between MOT and everybody's darling ARB.
The most respected team remains - last placed - EF (this week even with facing DEE's generous 56%: EF's lowest since match 11!).
Maybe there's a pattern here.
I think we were missed on the Cup betting payouts. We did get the winner right and the goalscorer.
:)
Get blogging chaps in teams in subject title above.
e.g. CLY are on 20k participation so far, so need add 80k to win another 100k from sponsor.
CEL zero k, so CEL need add 100k, and so on and so on.
Earn 100k in participation bonus to win another 100k sponsor money
Div 1: ALB CLY(20k) DUM FRA SRA
Div 2: AYR(20k) CEL(0k) CB(0k) EDI HAM(0k) PET RR(90k) SM
Div 3: AI(20k) BER(0k) FOR(20k) MON(0k) QP(85k)
Remember if you didn't win a sponsor near start of season then you default on to the free 100k bonus if your participation over the whole season is 100k or more.
Couldn't be much easier than that,
and even if you sat on 0k there is still 2 or 3 weeks left to hit the 100k amount with a few blog and journals.
Remember next Wednesday's Sesl Cup final betting is now 100k.
DEE v LIV match 49, Sept 3rd
Betting on the poll vote area on front page middle right hand side.
Sorry to see you were the one who missed out, but I'd guess the 23 managers who did win cash don't think it's a waste of time or money.
And there is the Final next week - GOOD money to be aimed for here. :-)
Sunderland 2 - 2 Brentford
Chelsea 3 - 1 Fulham
Aston Villa 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Man. United 2 - 0 Burnley
Tottenham 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Liverpool 2 - 1 Arsenal
Nottingham Forest 4 - 1 West Ham
Wolves 1 - 2 Everton
Leeds United 1 - 3 Newcastle
Brighton 1 - 2 Man. City
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 46:
ALB(150) ANN(150) ARB(150) COW(150) DEV(150) DUM(150) DEE(150) EF(150) EDI(150) ELG(150) FAL(150) FRA(150) GM(50) HIB(150) INV(150) KIL(150) MOT(150) PT(100) RAN(150) STJ(150) STI(150) SRA(150)
Sorry there were no predictions last week,unfortunately I had a bit of a computer problem.
However back on track for this week.
Undoubted game of the week is Liverpool vs Arsenal.
Sunderland 1 - 2 Brentford
Chelsea 2 - 0 Fulham
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Man. United 2 - 0 Burnley
Tottenham 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Liverpool 2 - 1 Arsenal
Nottingham Forest 2 - 0 West Ham
Wolves 1 - 1 Everton
Leeds United 1 - 2 Newcastle
Brighton 1 - 2 Man. City
I'm the only one out of 24 not going to get a payout from either the winning team nor anytine scorer.
Betting on sesl cup is a fools tax!
Raymond is correct - 1 minute to assess the 2 teams and perhaps a minute to select a player. Cost 50k but few managers will lose the 50k most get the 100k and the scorer is a bonus. Half the managers have bid today.
If polls are drying up, pick a CECIL Cup or SESL Cup tie regularly. 💰💰
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through match 46:
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) ARB(-50) COW(-50) DEV(-50) DUM(-50) DEE(-50) EF(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) FOR(-50) FRA(-50) GM(-50) HIB(-50) INV(-50) KIL(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) PT(-50) RAN(-50) STJ(-50) STI(-50) SRA(-50)
Placing a bet gives me an interest on the sesl cup, as once knocked out I would not otherwise pay much attention to the cup.
It is also better chance than average to not lose money as even if the favourite was to lose then you have the back up insurance of a goalscorer pick to return your money.
Surprised more managers don't join in and take a chance on extra money.
Very difficult to be precise here but the general historical concensus is 15th Century. Having said that, there is also mention as early as the 13th Century depending on whether his name was really Robin (of the) Hood or Robin of Locksley or any number of variations.
Either way, its a wonderful journey through English folklore and such a shame that way back then, almost all of British history was recorded by 'Monks' who were pretty much the only section of society that had the education and opportunity(financial) to record our history and it was very much the same all through Europe. Sadly the church was suspect in there motives and chose to record much of history accordingly.
The influential melting pot is distorted further by the influence of the 'Crown' throughout many Centuries. The combination of Crown and Christianity grew mainly between the 2nd and 5th Centuries when the conquering Roman Empire gradually introduced Christianity and when they deserted Briton in the 5th Century....Briton truly was a melting pot but slowly and violently progressively Christian and but also supporters of the Crown, if it suited and the same could be said about the Royals....Think Henry the VIII.
As i'm sure you can imagine.....Many Legends and myths were distorted depending on which side of the fences our heroes/Villians plied the trade on.
None more than good old ROBIN HOOD.
Not a large spread of betting picks thus far.
Could be easy money to win for anyone short of bank funds?
It will be the timing between post season awards being handed out, and pre-season CP being able to buy.
A switched on active manager would be able to avoid Robin Hood fairly easily, even with an unofficial loan situation between cash and any resources to remain under 4000k
With two weekends to go I see Alloa finishing on 3200k. We have made our sponsorship task (200k) and look certain to take both boot awards (300k each). Then on top of that there's the possibility of over achievers (400k), Gloves (200/300k?), Squib (100k) and Man of the match (200/300k?).
Should we win any of these I think I d normally have 24 hours to try and spend cash to avoid Robin Hood but the awards are given post season. Will I be able to spend excess now the trade window is opening earlier? Doesn't that negates Robin Hood?
For instance if I get to 4300k and offer to buy 5 CP for 650k pre-season that is 150k (or more) profit to the other team. I'm down to 3650k and buy 45 CP for 2500k to leave me with 110m50k That's effectively 150k profit to me.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 8 23rd August 2025:
DUM(34) FAL(34) RAN(34)
Round eight of the prediction league featured a few banana skins, with only three results predicted by more than 50% of managers. Everyone expected Motherwell to win at Elgin - was the 4-4 draw really so unlikely? That result cost nine of the 20 entrants their banker chance.
Three managers scraped together six points, so that's 34k each to Bill at Rangers, Colin at Dumbarton and Andy at Falkirk.
Things have tightened up at the top, but Cowdenbeath and Motherwell have the advantage of having a three to drop, whereas Dundee will find it harder to improve their score. East Fife have a much better chance of winning the Prediction League than they do of escaping relegation.
The next round is next Saturday, 30th, and the entry form is on the notebook
Prediction | ALB v NAI | LIV v STE | HEA v SRA | ELG v MOT | DUM v HIB | CLY v FRA | ANN v EF | ARB v DEE |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 60% | 20% | 75% | 0% | 95% | 10% | 30% | 25% |
Away | 35% | 70% | 15% | 100% | 0% | 90% | 55% | 50% |
Draw | 5% | 10% | 10% | 0% | 5% | 0% | 15% | 25% |
Banker Count | 5% | 0% | 0% | 45% | 30% | 15% | 5% | 0% |
Round 8 | |
Team | Points |
Dumbarton | 6 |
Falkirk | 6 |
Rangers | 6 |
Deveronvale | 5 |
Dundee | 5 |
East Fife | 5 |
East Stirlingshire | 5 |
Livingston | 5 |
St Johnstone | 5 |
Stranraer | 5 |
Elgin City | 4 |
Motherwell | 4 |
Stirling | 4 |
Cowdenbeath | 3 |
Edinburgh | 3 |
Hibernian | 3 |
Nairn | 3 |
Queens Park | 3 |
Arbroaeth | 2 |
Ross County | 2 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | D1 44 | Cup | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R8 | R7 | Total |
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 6 | 4 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 48 |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 8 | 47 |
3 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 8 | 46 |
4 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 7 | 44 |
5 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 5 | 7 | 40 | |
5 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 8 | 4 | 3 | 7 | 40 |
7 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 6 | 6 | 39 | |
8 | Elgin City | 5 | 9 | 3 | 7 | 3 | 4 | 7 | 38 | |
8 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 8 | 7 | 4 | 2 | 7 | 38 | |
8 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 8 | 38 |
8 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 8 | 38 |
12 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 7 | 4 | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 37 | |
13 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 3 | 8 | 36 |
13 | Rangers | 7 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 36 | |
15 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 6 | 8 | 35 | ||
15 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 8 | 35 | |
17 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 7 | 34 | |
17 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 34 |
19 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 7 | 33 | |
20 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 2 | 31 | ||
20 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 31 | ||
20 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 31 | |
23 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 7 | 3 | 30 | ||
24 | St Johnstone | 2 | 6 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 7 | 29 | |
25 | Arbroath | 6 | 3 | 6 | 6 | 2 | 5 | 28 | ||
26 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 3 | 7 | 22 | ||||
27 | Cove Rangers | 3 | 5 | 5 | 13 | |||||
28 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | 3 | 5 | 12 | |||||
29 | Queen of the South | 3 | 5 | 8 | ||||||
30 | Dunfermline | 4 | 4 | |||||||
30 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 0 | 4 | ||||||
32 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 45:
Annan Athletic - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
Peterhead - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Deveronvale - MVP #6: 25k (wwW)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #6: 25k (wDW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 44:
Dumbarton - MVP #4: 1 CP (WdW)
Fraserburgh - MVP #7: 25k (wDW)
Dundee FC - MVP #9: 25k (dwW)
Raith Rovers - MVP #5: 25k (wdW)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Berwick - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Our mid-week cup match at the neutral ground was the worst. Just bits of stone and broken concrete. Still. We won 2-0 on aggregate.....
The Prediction League runs tomorrow - only 8 entries so far....
HEA sends John Robertson (5/16 FW) to KIL for 150k
INV sends 1 TP to EDI for 95k
No problem, Cameron. Your next two are against teams in the SESL Cup semi-finals and will want to save EL. Also they have no chance of catching Motherwell.
V DEE (3rd in table. League table. Not junk table)
V FRA (2nd in table)
V MOT (1st in table)
Pair of FWs looking for a new team today.
4/10 FW for 100k
5/16 FW for 150k
SRA sends 220k to HEA for 2 CP
ROS sends 1 TP to FRA for 100k
Looks like a 50-50 for DUM to be 10th or higher OR 9th or lower. Has to be a bet for that!
Stenhousemuir (30 pts, GD –19)
🟢 Safe-ish: 40%
🟡 Playoff Wobble: 35%
🔴 Gone: 25%
Every win feels like it’s followed by a heavy defeat. They’re balanced on the tightrope, wobbling, juggling flaming torches.
Dumbarton (29 pts, GD +2)
🟢 Safe-ish: 50%
🟡 Playoff Wobble: 30%
🔴 Gone: 20%
Their positive goal difference is like finding a fiver in an old coat: handy, but not life-changing. Could sneak out of trouble.
Elgin City (29 pts, GD –9)
🟢 Safe-ish: 35%
🟡 Playoff Wobble: 40%
🔴 Gone: 25%
Expect one final 4-3 thriller that sums up their season: fun to watch, fatal for the nerves.
Clyde FC (29 pts, GD –10)
🟢 Safe-ish: 30%
🟡 Playoff Wobble: 40%
🔴 Gone: 30%
Masters of dramatic escapes, but this year’s rope is looking frayed. A playoff berth beckons.
Hearts (28 pts, GD –12)
🟢 Safe-ish: 25%
🟡 Playoff Wobble: 35%
🔴 Gone: 40%
Fallen giants, reduced to scrapping with Clyde and Elgin for scraps. Their name carries weight, but their defence carries buckets.
East Fife (25 pts, GD –7)
🟢 Safe-ish: 15%
🟡 Playoff Wobble: 30%
🔴 Gone: 55%
Too many draws. At this stage, stalemates are about as useful as a chocolate teapot.
Livingston (25 pts, GD –11)
🟢 Safe-ish: 15%
🟡 Playoff Wobble: 30%
🔴 Gone: 55%
Mercurial, unpredictable, and slightly doomed. Their fans should prepare for Division Two… but keep half an eye on the playoffs.
Nairn County (24 pts, GD –20)
🟢 Safe-ish: 5%
🟡 Playoff Wobble: 15%
🔴 Gone: 80%
Mathematically alive, spiritually halfway down the trapdoor.
Annan Athletic (21 pts, GD –27)
🟢 Safe-ish: 1%
🟡 Playoff Wobble: 4%
🔴 Gone: 95%
Not so much clinging to survival as already measuring up the Division Two fixture list.
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 43:
ANN(150) COV(100) DEE(150) DUU(150) EDI(150) FAL(50) FRA(150) GM(100) HEA(100) HIB(100) INV(150) LIV(100) MOT(100) SRA(150)
ALO sends 50k to STJ for Cammy MacPherson (6/10 DM)
GM sends 1 TP to STJ for 102k
A boring week, even with a decent 60.4% average.
Apparently, the fewer teams involved in the cup - the fewer junk squads seen.
Team | Junk | JvJ | AVG |
ARB | 6 | 4 | 58,0 |
DUM | 6 | 2 | 59,3 |
MOT | 6 | 0 | 60,7 |
NAI | 5 | 3 | 60,8 |
ALB | 5 | 1 | 59,3 |
HIB | 5 | 0 | 61,0 |
LIV | 4 | 3 | 62,5 |
ANN | 4 | 3 | 62,8 |
STE | 4 | 2 | 60,5 |
HEA | 4 | 2 | 60,9 |
SRA | 4 | 2 | 61,2 |
ELG | 4 | 0 | 59,8 |
DEE | 3 | 2 | 62,3 |
CLY | 3 | 0 | 61,7 |
FRA | 3 | 0 | 62,3 |
EF | 2 | 0 | 63,8 |
MOT's meteoric rise of the recent weeks continue. With now 6 junk faced they are well within reach of the most prestigious double: championship and junk table.
EF remains the most respected team. 64 and 70 even strengthens their bottom position.
No interesting JOTW this week, so a look at a kinda surprise:
The big battle of the (still) top 2, DUM vs ARB turned out rather interesting.
ARB's solid visiting 66% were greeted by DUM's 79% T11 and a 3-2 home win - much respect, and not what might have been expected.
Retire him and don't even think about selling him. Problem solved.
After ageing a 16/6 becomes a 7/10 and be retired for 80k. So yes, I certainly would - and wouldn't consider selling them for less than 80k.
Pay whatever you want. Perhaps there was a bidding war that I was not aware of. The 6/16 certainly helps SM out - no question. I am certainly not suggesting there is anything wrong with this trade. In fact, I commented before the trade.
I was just surprised to see this guy advertised at 175k with 6 matches to go in the season.
The guide in the rules, not everyone uses it and it is just a guide, tells me that for 175k I could be getting a 3/17.
I like the comment from John too which backs up my point - what is the value of this guy now. IMO it is not even close to 175k.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Aug 17th:
ALO(50) ARB(10) DUM(25) DEE(45) EF(50) EDI(35) FAL(25) HIB(10) LIV(10) MOT(50) STJ(20) SRA(25)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Aug 10th:
ALO(20) ARB(30) DUM(25) DEE(50) EF(50) EDI(50) FAL(25) FOR(10) FRA(25) HEA(10) HIB(50) KIL(10) LIV(25) MOT(50) PT(30) PET(10) ROS(15) SM(15)
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through match 43:
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) COV(-50) DEE(-50) DUU(-50) EDI(-50) FAL(-50) FRA(-50) GM(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) INV(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) STJ(-50) SRA(-50)
But after today's game when his EL would be 10. 12 SL extra in midfield would be a bonus and it stops the cash being taken by Mr Hood.
Are you going to retire him?
If I can retire a player for 80k, why would I sell them for less?
Great trade deal for both teams.
Yes, I think player value is over 80k as that is indeed the value to the team if player stays and MOT retire him. But if another team wants pay a little over 80k to put 16 skill level on the pitch for this season then great.
When an older player is traded previously with maybe half the season to go then some may post
but he will be "age and SL" NEXT season though. 🤷
Well played both SM & MOT for a deal that suits both teams THIS season.
SM sends 120k to MOT for Muddy Waters (6/16 MF)
Stop.
'Will retire for 80k' has that suggestion that, at some in the future, the guy will be worth 80k.
Firstly, I do not think he is worh 80k - now.
Secondly, you would have to retire him to get that 80k - hardly the point of adding a player to your squad now.
Thirdly, and perhaps most importantly. If he retires and the team so doing gain 80k (again, this is not his value) great but if you do not retire him and want to sell him to a team that does want to retire him (following so far...) then you might* get half of the retire value.
* still not worth 40k (even now)
I am not winking
I knew Ross at Aberdeen was doing a great job with the lack of CP but I didn't know they started bottom as well. He was on my short shortlist for manager of the season anyway. Hopefully their current form is only a blip but as they play three of the bottom four*, I'm hoping they can win the over-achievers.
*Aberdeen also have to play the current third and fourth placed teams.
As a small service to Steve ...
Partick Thistle | 20.2 |
Deveronvale | 19.4 |
Falkirk | 19.2 |
Brechin City | 19.1 |
Greenock Morton | 18.9 |
Dunfermline Athletic | 18.7 |
Forfar Athletic | 18.4 |
Ross County | 18.3 |
Airdrieonians FC | 18.2 |
Cove Rangers | 18.1 |
Inverness | 17.7 |
Queens Park | 17.7 |
Alloa Athletic | 17.7 |
Berwick | 17.1 |
Montrose | 16.5 |
East Stirlingshire | 16.4 |
Stirling | 16.4 |
Aberdeen | 16.2 |
It doesn't look like "poor" Alloa gets another prize money, yet.
David Blair back on top
David Blair 11
Andrew Foss Grant 9
Paul Cockyne 8.5
Alon Atie 8
Andrew McCumuskey 7
Andy Shaw 6.5
Will retire for 80k next season. If anyone needs some additional depth for the run-in, he's yours for a fair price. Currently, he keeps complaining that he continually has been run out as a defender this season instead of his preferred midfield role...
Looks like a couple results really broke up everyone's predictions. Who knew Sunderland would come back with such a roar and make West Ham look so poor? Not sure if that's an indication that West Ham are really that bad or if Sunderland might actually be ok...
Will look forward to the Monday night match - seems we have a full range of predictions for that one.
DEE sends 100k to KIL for 1 TP
This trade window closes on this coming Friday(5 days)...
If you have spare TPs and need some extra cash ?....
EDI will pay 90k per TP, good, cool cash
SRA sends 345k to COW for 3 CP
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 42:
Motherwell - MVP #8: 25k (WwW)
Rangers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Greenock Morton - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 41:
Fraserburgh - MVP #6: 25k (wWW)
Dundee FC - MVP #8: 25k (wWW)
Ross County - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wdW)
Inverness - MVP #4: 1 CP (wDw)
....don't forget its Recycling this week......
Returns on 23 AUG but you don't need me to tell you that - plenty of others will keep you up to date with that. Along with details of when the bins need to go out.
Bill has already posted his predictions and, I have to say, I am mightly flattered. Thank you!
LIV sends 2 CP to FRA for 235k
ROS sends 1 TP to DEE for 105k
ELG sends 300k to QOS for 3 TP
RAN sends Max Aarons (2/18 DF) to ROS for Victor Loturi (3/22 FW)
DEE sends 105k to ROS for 1 TP
EDI would be interested in acquiring a few extra TPs.
Willing to pay 90k per TP up tp a maximum of 5TPs.
First come, first served.
DEE sends 100k to KIL for 1 TP
FRA sends 236k to STE for 2 CP
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 40:
ALB(100) ANN(100) BRE(150) COW(100) DEV(100) DUM(100) DEE(100) EF(100) EDI(100) ELG(100) FAL(100) FRA(100) HIB(150) INV(100) LIV(150) MOT(100) NAI(150) PT(100) RAN(150) STJ(100) SRA(100)
Rather easy way to make some cash, indeed. Too bad that Torres didn't score.
I was surprised though that you didn't make FRA-DUM 1 your banker bet.
MOT sends 236k to STE for 2 CP
EF sends 590k to STE for 5 CP
MOT sends 115k to HIB for 1 CP
Nearly everyone who bet on the match won some free money. When I looked at this last week I was about to bet on DUM but held off to see what might happen over the weekend and I was glad I did. The suspension of 55 SL meant that there was no danger of a blowout but even at 55%, that was a junk lineup.
No spoiler alert required for this post although Dave might be surprised. Perhaps he didn't check the preview page before betting or maybe he just has money to burn. I do appreciate the support though.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 7 13th August 2025:
DUM(29) DEE(29) HIB(29) MOT(29) NAI(29) STI(29) SRA(29)
The SESL Cup provided us with largely predictable results. There were two tricky ones - Stirling's win against Partick Thistle and Livingston's win against Deveronvale - the latter only predicted by two of the 23 entrants. The average score was very high - 6.69, so there's only a small change at the top of the table, with Motherwell gaining a point on Cowdenbeath, to be two points behind them.
Seven managers notched up eight points ths time - even with the double prize money for this round, it's a meagre 29k each.
The next round is in ten days' time, on 23rd August, and features the Division 1 matches. The entry form is on the Notebook.
Prediction | STI v PT | DEE v ANN | FOR v SRA | PET v STJ | FRA v DUM | MOT v BRE | EST v HEA | DEV v LIV |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 30% | 96% | 9% | 0% | 78% | 91% | 9% | 87% |
Away | 61% | 0% | 87% | 100% | 13% | 0% | 91% | 13% |
Draw | 9% | 4% | 4% | 0% | 9% | 9% | 0% | 0% |
Banker Count | 0% | 17% | 9% | 9% | 4% | 43% | 0% | 17% |
Round 7 | |
---|---|
Team | Points |
Dumbarton | 8 |
Dundee | 8 |
Hibernian | 8 |
Motherwell | 8 |
Nairn | 8 |
Stranraer | 8 |
Strirling | 8 |
Ayr | 7 |
Cowdenbeath | 7 |
Deverovale | 7 |
East Fife | 7 |
Edinburgh | 7 |
Elgin City | 7 |
Hearts | 7 |
Ross County | 7 |
St Johnstone | 7 |
East Stirlingshire | 6 |
Falkirk | 6 |
Arbroath | 5 |
Forfar | 5 |
Partick Thistle | 5 |
Livingston | 4 |
Rangers | 4 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | Cup | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R7 | Total |
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 6 | 4 | 8 | 5 | 7 | 45 |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 8 | 3 | 8 | 43 |
3 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 4 | 8 | 41 |
4 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 5 | 7 | 39 |
5 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 8 | 4 | 7 | 37 |
6 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 8 | 7 | 4 | 7 | 36 | |
7 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 35 | |
8 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 7 | 34 |
8 | Elgin City | 5 | 9 | 3 | 7 | 3 | 7 | 34 | |
8 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 8 | 34 |
11 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 6 | 33 | |
11 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 7 | 33 |
11 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 8 | 33 |
11 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 33 |
15 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 7 | 4 | 7 | 3 | 6 | 32 | |
15 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 8 | 32 | |
17 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 2 | 31 | |
17 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 31 | |
17 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 31 |
20 | Rangers | 7 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 30 | |
21 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 8 | 29 | ||
21 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 29 |
23 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 7 | 27 | ||
24 | Arbroath | 6 | 3 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 26 | ||
25 | St Johnstone | 2 | 6 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 7 | 24 | |
26 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 3 | 7 | 22 | |||
27 | Cove Rangers | 3 | 5 | 5 | 13 | ||||
28 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | 3 | 5 | 12 | ||||
29 | Queen of the South | 3 | 5 | 8 | |||||
30 | Dunfermline | 4 | 4 | ||||||
30 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 0 | 4 | |||||
32 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 |
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through match 40:
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) BRE(-50) COW(-50) DEV(-50) DUM(-50) DEE(-50) EF(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) FRA(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) INV(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) NAI(-50) PT(-50) RAN(-50) STJ(-50) SRA(-50)
CEL sends 195k to ANN for 2 TP
Thanks Andrew, I'd forgotten to put the bins out....
I'll believe it only if Paul posts this announcement in triplicate
.....thanks for the reminder......but I was halfway to putting the bins out when I realised its only Tuesday........
Because the Prediction League runs tomorrow, Wednesday
Liverpool 2-1 Bournemouth
Aston Villa 1-1 Newcastle
Brighton 2-1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 2-1 Brentford
Sunderland 1-1 West Ham
Tottenham 3-1 Burnley
Wolves 1-2 Man City
Chelsea 3-1 Crystal Palace
Man United 2-2 Arsenal
Leeds United 1-1 Everton
Liverpool 4 - 1 Bournemouth
Aston Villa 2 - 2 Newcastle
Brighton 2 - 1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 3 - 0 Brentford
Sunderland 1 - 2 West Ham
Tottenham 2 - 0 Burnley
Wolves 1 - 3 Man. City
Chelsea 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 2 Arsenal
Leeds United 2 - 1 Everton
Liverpool 4 - 0 Bournemouth
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Newcastle
Brighton 2 - 0 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 1 - 0 Brentford
Sunderland 1 - 3 West Ham
Tottenham 2 - 1 Burnley
Wolves 1 - 2 Man. City
Chelsea 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 2 Arsenal
Leeds United 1 - 1 Everton
It couldn't last long.
After just 1 week DUM's lead vanished facing 63 and 72 - and mighty ARB (with 54 and 42) are back on top.
Some things just feel right - at least a couple of managers seem to think so.
Team | Junk | JvJ | AVG |
ARB | 6 | 4 | 57,0 |
DUM | 6 | 2 | 58,8 |
NAI | 5 | 3 | 60,6 |
HIB | 5 | 0 | 60,4 |
MOT | 5 | 0 | 61,4 |
LIV | 4 | 3 | 62,3 |
STE | 4 | 2 | 60,5 |
HEA | 4 | 2 | 60,9 |
ALB | 4 | 1 | 59,7 |
ANN | 3 | 3 | 63,3 |
SRA | 3 | 2 | 61,3 |
ELG | 3 | 0 | 60,5 |
CLY | 3 | 0 | 62,0 |
FRA | 3 | 0 | 62,4 |
DEE | 2 | 2 | 63,2 |
EF | 2 | 0 | 63,5 |
The big winner this week - not only in the junk table - is MOT.
Two gracious <50% lineups make MOT a real contender, now with 5 junks faced total.
The JOTW goes to ARB (who else) facing HEA.
The glorious fight between 44% and 42% even served a CB bonus at 5-1, once more thanks to HEA's SL9 keeper.
I'm beginning to see some pattern here.
Another evolving pattern is the huge respect shown for EF. They have faced faced at least 61% in any of their last 10 matches - allowing them #1 in the average faced ranking!
Liverpool 3 - 1 Bournemouth
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Newcastle
Brighton 2 - 0 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 0 - 0 Brentford
Sunderland 1 - 2 West Ham
Tottenham 2 - 0 Burnley
Wolves 0 - 4 Man. City
Chelsea 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 2 Arsenal
Leeds United 1 - 3 Everton
Probably refreshed EF side proposing multiple trades at times when EF online,
however it would be SM refreshing his side and accepting trade again and again when SM device was accessing web site as EF proposed trade(s) (as team listed first in trade transaction),but needs other party to accept. And accept. And accept.
Thanks for sorting this out, Mark.
I am not convinced that the probem was caused by user errors because the timings don't make sense. Two of the "invalid trade" messages were on Saturday afternoon, at 4:48pm and 5:49pm. I can be sure that I didn't hit refresh at that time becuase I was umpiring a cricket match from 1pm until about 7pm and there would have been complaints if I had been using my laptop while umpiring.
But anyway, thanks again for sorting it and let's hope it doesn't recur.
With the 4 duplicate EF blogs this morning I think you have answered your own question Paul.
It is a user blip, rather than an Olmec game one.
When you return to game page on your device then rather than click refresh, instead click "SESL" top left corner and that should return you to starting page.
If could be on your device it re-loads last page you have visited, so you may have put your own device (phone/ipad etc) down while on trade page, and when you return it proposes trade again as your device re-loads that page you were last on.
Same as if you are sat on blog page, and when you return it refreshs the last page you are on - hence your 4 EF blog duplicates this morning.
Frustrating for sure.
As Steve notes, olmec web pages appear to behave differently for different devices so its finding what works best for your own device.
In meantime the triplicate trade can be reversed,
although Matt at SM may accepted trade in good faith as had thought you proposed the same trade 3 times (which your device appears to have done).
I'm on a Macbook Air. I think the double posting happens when I have muliple tabs open for SESL but I haven't really ever worked out the exact sequence of events that causes it.
My phone (Chrome running on Android) always asks me. I have a feeling phones don't.
SM sends 240k to EF for 2 CP
Paul, are you on an iPad/iPhone? Looks like you have the same problem David has when you come back to the site it automatically reloads the form. On my Samsung it asks me if I want to resend the information.
There is a trade problem that needs sorting out, please, by someone who can (Mark? David?)
On Aug 8th at 6:44am I bought a CP from Saint Mirren for 240k
This trade then, wrongly, went through twice more on 8th Aug (10:50pm and 10:56pm). Please could these two trades be reversed?
Since then I have been getting repeated messages entitled “Invalid trade EF:SM” – evidently the system keeps trying to put the trade through again, but it fails as SM have no CPs to sell. There are eight such messages in all, between 9th August at 5:30am and 10th August at 3:07pm.
These aren’t causing a problem as such but presumably if SM were to get some CPs, they would all get sold to me, one at a time, so something needs to be done.
There is a trade problem that needs sorting out, please, by someone who can (Mark? David?)
On Aug 8th at 6:44am I bought a CP from Saint Mirren for 240k
This trade then, wrongly, went through twice more on 8th Aug (10:50pm and 10:56pm). Please could these two trades be reversed?
Since then I have been getting repeated messages entitled “Invalid trade EF:SM” – evidently the system keeps trying to put the trade through again, but it fails as SM have no CPs to sell. There are eight such messages in all, between 9th August at 5:30am and 10th August at 3:07pm.
These aren’t causing a problem as such but presumably if SM were to get some CPs, they would all get sold to me, one at a time, so something needs to be done.
AI sends 118k to STE for 1 CP
There is a trade problem that needs sorting out, please, by someone who can (Mark? David?)
On Aug 8th at 6:44am I bought a CP from Saint Mirren for 240k
This trade then, wrongly, went through twice more on 8th Aug (10:50pm and 10:56pm). Please could these two trades be reversed?
Since then I have been getting repeated messages entitled “Invalid trade EF:SM” – evidently the system keeps trying to put the trade through again, but it fails as SM have no CPs to sell. There are eight such messages in all, between 9th August at 5:30am and 10th August at 3:07pm.
These aren’t causing a problem as such but presumably if SM were to get some CPs, they would all get sold to me, one at a time, so something needs to be done.
There is a trade problem that needs sorting out, please, by someone who can (Mark? David?)
On Aug 8th at 6:44am I bought a CP from Saint Mirren for 240k
This trade then, wrongly, went through twice more on 8th Aug (10:50pm and 10:56pm). Please could these two trades be reversed?
Since then I have been getting repeated messages entitled “Invalid trade EF:SM” – evidently the system keeps trying to put the trade through again, but it fails as SM have no CPs to sell. There are eight such messages in all, between 9th August at 5:30am and 10th August at 3:07pm.
These aren’t causing a problem as such but presumably if SM were to get some CPs, they would all get sold to me, one at a time, so something needs to be done.
Liverpool 3 - 1 Bournemouth
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Newcastle
Brighton 1 - 1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 2 - 0 Brentford
Sunderland 1 - 3 West Ham
Tottenham 3 - 1 Burnley
Wolves 1 - 2 Man. City
Chelsea 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 1 Arsenal
Leeds United 1 - 1 Everton
3 auctions in a row QOS have had bids void using auction player name already in roster.
And no, its not because an auction lot is secured and Arnold wants to dismiss future lot bids.
QOS are voiding auction bids from lot 1 onwards at times.
Today a 5/25 WG would have been won by QOS had Arnold used a new auction player name not already used in roster.
Ask Santa for a book of names suggestions maybe.
Must be frustrating Arnold when you have money to spend.
5,766 k spent at auction today.
480k average per lot won today
The 1/16 DF went for a snip (no spoilers)
Curiously in all 10 auctions this season there was no 1k winners at auction.
Minimum paid in all the auctions was 101k :-
that was CB 0/8 MF in auction 9 won for 101k
and was CEL 0/8 WG in auction 8 for 101k
Top price paid at auction was DUM in auction 3 securing a 0/7 GK for 1024k
but GK are much sought after so will seem like a decent investment.
ARB sends 100k to PT for 1 TP
Deadline is friday night.
Here We Go!
Liverpool 2 - 0 Bournemouth
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Newcastle
Brighton 2 - 1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Brentford
Sunderland 1 - 2 West Ham
Tottenham 2 - 0 Burnley
Wolves 0 - 2 Man. City
Chelsea 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 2 Arsenal
Leeds United 2 - 1 Everton
A new season starts this friday night and it promisses to be as good as ever.
There are 4 teams with a serious shot at the title. Liverpool,Arsenal, Man City and Chelsea.
And besides all those scrapping for the European spots last season there will also be Man United and Tottenham who have both stregthened ,back in the mix.
At the bottom it will be interesting to see whether for the first time in 3 seasons any of the promoted teams(Sunderland,leeds or Burnley ) can stay up.
And of course in SESL land the prediction league is back !
SRA sends 100k to ANN for 1 TP
Very much helped by the second division, which averaged nearly 6 goals per match! Good day to be a match-going supporter
ARB sends 100k to BER for 1 TP
DEE sends 100k to STI for 1 TP
Match 39 went goal crazy. Average of more than 4 goals per gane, despite a couple of goalless draws. Entertainment at its highest.
ARB sends 315k to DUU for 3 TP
I think Eduard summed it all up quite nicely. Ageing is such a crucial constraint in these games, I would be very wary about having players avoid it. I am certainly in favor if we are talking about small benefits, and agree it might be worth giving everyone access instead of as an auction. But, the psychologists would be a deal breaker in my opinion.
MOT sends 100k to ANN for 1 TP
Whilst I agree with you - it's obviously not perfect but it doesn't happen often. And I'm guessing you can go in NIW and change anything you like for game 39. 👍👍
Seems 2nd match of session today hasn't played, so 50 minutes until match 39 it seems to suggest from countdown clock (going backwards again!)
Zero chance to alter line-ups for the following games ?
Not perfect at all.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 39:
Motherwell - MVP #7: 25k (WWW)
Annan Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Dww)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #6: 25k (DwW)
Stirling - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wDW)
Brechin City - MVP #3: 1 TP (Wdw)
Berwick - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Guessing everybody made out their team line for 39 on the assumption game 38 was played first.
if the games are transposed there will be some strange results and some unfortunate injuries but hey ho! That's life. 🙄😉
If it has not run yet, will the two matches run back to back? Will match 39 run before match 38? Can't recall what happens when the kickoff gets this long delayed
These stories are very precious to me and are not given up lightly.
Happy to share but they are all heartfelt...and again TRUE.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 38:
Dundee FC - MVP #7: 25k (wWW)
Hearts - MVP #3: 1 TP (WWw)
Dumbarton - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWD)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #8: 25k (WWw)
Partick Thistle - MVP #6: 25k (DWw)
While we wait for matches to kick off you may as well dig deep and tell such tales William.
The recent thread re 'Seamen' etc has sparked so many memories for me that i am tempted to tell a tale or two, mainly about my childhood and my somewhat questionable youth(early 20's).
To put things into perspective...I was born in 1956 to a ex Royal Navy man who was also a former DEEP sea sailor. He then became a Trawlerman.
And that is just the beginning of my pathetic tale. I'm not particulary comfortable telling such tales but will if anybody wants to hear such nonesense....but ALL such tales are 100% TRUE.
Now we'll have to hear it!!!
You should be able to post audio files here. ;)
Another well written blog.
Are you working on a cruise liner?
6 junk lineups and 6 league wins - coincidence? I think not.
Anyway, 6 is an interesting number. Apparently, when I say 'six', to others, it sounds like 'sex'. The language of the sea is English and I think I can hold my own but then when asked to say six it all falls apart. It brings great merriment to my fellow crew mates, which, of course, helps with morale.
Another word that is of great difficulty to me is 'phone'. My colleagues find it very amusing when passengers, mostly the 'merican, hear me say 'food'. Put your phone in the tray - I don't have any food. Bizzare. It happens a lot.
EF sends 120k to SM for 1 CP
EF sends 120k to SM for 1 CP
EST sends 480k to PT for 4 CP
LIV sends 400k to HAM for 4 TP
We have a new #1: Dumbarton (even if recently unmentioned)!
Taking the lead from ARB is next to lese-majeste, though, and should certainly get punished with 70+ lineups.
It is rather strange anyway that DUM fails to get much points and stay deep in the relegation zone.
Team | Junk | JvJ | AVG |
DUM | 6 | 2 | 58,0 |
ARB | 5 | 3 | 57,9 |
NAI | 5 | 3 | 60,2 |
ALB | 4 | 1 | 60,0 |
HIB | 4 | 0 | 60,7 |
SRA | 3 | 2 | 61,1 |
LIV | 3 | 2 | 62,9 |
STE | 3 | 1 | 60,9 |
HEA | 3 | 1 | 61,2 |
ELG | 3 | 0 | 61,3 |
FRA | 3 | 0 | 61,8 |
CLY | 3 | 0 | 61,8 |
MOT | 3 | 0 | 62,6 |
ANN | 2 | 2 | 64,1 |
EF | 2 | 0 | 63,3 |
DEE | 1 | 1 | 63,9 |
The JOTW shows no DUM though.
This week's winner ist LIV-HEA 44/41.
The most remarkable about this match was that both teams played fairly offensive - resulting in a 4-1 Livingston win, even getting a Captain's Bonus against HEA's SL9 GK.
DEE sends 210k to EST for 2 TP
Like the concept. Ed at DEE makes good point of buying staff for fixed costs - or maybe a minimal bid.
I'd prefer to see any staff auction per division like sponsorship, so the big Div 1 teams don't swallow up all the goodies.
Fair for all, and help the wee teams 🙌
EF sends 3 TP to PT for 350k
EF sends 240k to PT for 2 CP
EF sends 120k to SM for 1 CP
Round 7 is next Wednesday, 13th August and the entry form is on the Notebook. Please use the one that says "PLEASE USE THIS ONE", though possibly this request is unnessesary for some.
This is the cup round, which cannot be dropped from your final score, but which carries a double prize of £200k.
... since the post-MSA half of the season is more interesting, thus - and the aging is necessary anyway.
So there's no need to make it even more enjoyable.
The main problem with your suggestion is that those staff members should have only minimal impact to avoid unbalancing the system.
However, e.g. ...
- Age 4+ players don’t age
- Goalkeepers don’t age
- One nominated player’s age is reduced by 1
all produce crazy powerful key players - and would lead to silly strategies effectively breaking the game.
Even if the effects are weakened, the "staff auction" would mean that only a small number of teams could get the important staff - and thus would mean that the auction losers are (massively) weakened.
A system like MSWL-U's, where everybody buys his staff for fixed costs, would be a much better approach. Then physios or negotiators could be discussed - but please no psychologists!
Decent idea.
Except for "GK don't age" as already GK seem too powerful even when played passive.
Energy Level refresh not needed at that time mid season, as 5 sesl cup group games gives the canny switched on manager rest opportunities in 5 group games and TP up those low SL age 0's
Keen to read other auction suggestions.
"Marketing Agent" to double gate receipts of the 5 sesl cup group games?
And if Paul (EF) is offering to admin this initiative then could be a go-er.
MSA is a painful time but here is an idea that might help to make it something to be looked forward to. (I exaggerate)
How about a special pre-MSA auction of staff members who can help reduce the pain? For example :-
Psychologists who reduce the effect of MSA on SL or ageing
Physios who affect EL
Skilled negotiators who affect disciplinary records
These are just first thoughts – not all may be practical, some may be too strong or not strong enough so it all needs further thought – that is, if people think it’s a good idea in the first place.
It would need to be administered manually of course but it would only be once a season, so similar to the sponsorship auctions. Not too onerous a job, I think, and it would give managers more to think about which I feel adds to the game.
MOT sends 95k to CEL for 1 TP
EDI sends 450k to EST for 5 TP
CEL sends 2 TP, Arne Engels (2/27 MF) to LIV for Alexis Mac Allister (1/28 MF)
STJ sends 4 TP to LIV for Elie Youan (4/21 FW)
BRE sends 100k, 3 TP to LIV for Luis Diaz (4/21 WG)
Ticking the wrong way it looks like
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 37:
Fraserburgh - MVP #5: 25k (WDW)
Is back on Wednesday of next week (13th) with the cup round
Is it back next Wednesday?
Miss it once it's gone (paused)!
PT sends 350k to DUM for 3 TP
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Aug 3rd:
ALB(20) ALO(40) ARB(20) DUM(20) DEE(35) EF(30) EST(10) EDI(40) FAL(15) HIB(35) LIV(25) MOT(50) PT(10) QP(20) RAN(15) ROS(20) SRA(10)
I suspect that some bids may have been submitted to boost the cost of the winning bid - who wants to see a rival win an age 0 for 1k? The pitfall for this kind of strategy is fairly obvious but Andrew has already addressed a way around that - unless you want to ensure all winning bids are 'honest'.
Fun n games!
Always good deals to be had at this stage of the season.
Feel like I missed out with John stealing my players and knowing I would have won lot 7 if I had bid for him.
Always worth bidding a low price on the off chance no one else has.
Impressive deals you got on those 0/7s, John!
Think you already know this and intended to bid the way you did, but posting in case it's useful to anyone else:
If you bid for multiple players in an auction but only want to win one of them, you can give them the same name in your bids. This way, if you win the first one on the list, your next bid will be invalidated for having the same name as a player already on your roster (since the first bid player has already been added to your roster)
LIV sends Derek Ferguson (4/20 MF) to STI for 150k, 2 TP
Too many age 0 bought this season.
So young SW W C John 0/16 is available to trade after playing 2 more matches.
In box any offers, or bid online after Saturday 9th two matches.
RR sends 190k to GM for Bill Kangaroo (4/16 MF)
MOT sends 120k to SM for 1 CP
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru July 27th:
ALB(40) ALO(50) ARB(30) DUM(50) DEE(35) EF(50) EST(50) EDI(50) FAL(15) HEA(10) HIB(50) KIL(10) LIV(35) MOT(50) PT(25) PET(50) RAN(10) ROS(35) STI(20) SRA(50)
MOT sends 300k to CLY for 3 TP
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 36:
Arbroath - MVP #4: 1 CP (WdW)
Livingston - MVP #3: 1 TP (dWW)
Raith Rovers - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWw)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 35:
Stranraer - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #7: 25k (WwW)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #5: 25k (wWw)
Partick Thistle - MVP #5: 25k (WwD)
In summary, I guess because ARB are reigning champions is the thinking teams rest EL (junk) against ARB thinking they more chance for a win focusing on other league match of same day session.
Team | Junk | JvJ |
ARB | 5 | 3 |
NAI | 5 | 3 |
DUM | 5 | 1 |
ALB | 4 | 1 |
HIB | 4 | 0 |
SRA | 3 | 2 |
ELG | 3 | 0 |
FRA | 3 | 0 |
CLY | 3 | 0 |
ANN | 2 | 2 |
LIV | 2 | 1 |
STE | 2 | 0 |
HEA | 2 | 0 |
MOT | 2 | 0 |
EF | 2 | 0 |
DEE | 1 | 1 |
Week 9 turned out - expectably - rather boring.
Most of the Div1 squads finished the SESL group stage well rested, so not much need to play the B-team, let alone a junk squad.
Nonetheless ARB retake the lead - alongside NAI.
#3 remains unmentioned.
Everyone else may find his team. Especially DEE is always easy to find.
Team | AVG |
ARB | 56,8 |
DUM | 57,9 |
ALB | 59,9 |
HIB | 60,1 |
SRA | 60,2 |
NAI | 60,4 |
ELG | 60,6 |
FRA | 61,4 |
CLY | 61,6 |
STE | 61,8 |
HEA | 61,9 |
MOT | 62,4 |
EF | 62,6 |
DEE | 63,3 |
LIV | 63,4 |
ANN | 63,5 |
Not much news: just a very tight race for the bottom - and a solid top 2.
Overall week #9 showed up with solid 64.9%, only the starting week was higher at 68.3%.
I'm expecting much more junk in week #10.
CLY sends 120k to HIB for 1 CP
Have just noticed that ANN have 8 points in 6 matches against the top 4 (2-2-2), and then 6 points total against the rest (1 win, 3 draws, 8 losses). Dan certainly making his mark on the title race, both during and after his big CECIL cup push. Bad omen for MOT on Saturday!
Airdrie fair splashing the cash on resources lately.
Suits me, sir.
AI sends 360k to PT for 3 CP
Heard a couple of American tourists refer to the legendary steak bakery establishment as G R Eggs.
They maybe think Gordon Ramsay works there!
English school holidays just starting -but Scottish pupils - the 6 that actually attend school - go back in about 2 weeks. Never noticed they were off except Greggs was more quieter than usual and anyway most stay indoors to be able to keep up to date with their social media.
One good thing about being 106 (that's how I feel) is that we don't have school kids at home.. 👍👍👍
I laughed and then cried a little. Mine start school holidays for a month on Tuesday
That blog raised a smile Andrew.
...... had the shits all week and totally lost as to what to do. Rang the Doc for help and he said "wait 5 weeks then they will be back to school"......
After the excitement of playing Willy 4 times last Wednesday today seems like an anti-climax.
No SESL Cup today for anyone.
In Sanc it's the Dowson shield only as they play a 3 way round robin.
In OASL my senior team's win means straight to the final (it's a double elimination competition)
It's only the Junior team that has a game.
Did it actually 2 seasons in a row. Played earlier in the season before retiring. 0/10 superstar upgrade. Gk is always the postions to go on these if I ever get another one.
For us lads with nothing to do till this weekend having been dumped out of the SESL Cup, having a discussion and a poll does fill up 3 minutes, so thanks for that.
Steve's point about the GK award has now gone to a Poll (30 seconds) - get in there and give your view.
And I heard a plea for the POTS to be brought back in - up to Mark of course (but it was my suggestion and I collected the data - like the idea it should go on youth - if after PSA (isn't that the heading for blood readings during prostate cancer - in fact I KNOW it is) it could go onto age 1 players - additions are done before 1st game in the new season, so unlikely to be any age 0s. Exciting - that's my 3 minutes up now. 🤔🤔😉😉
There is a poll vote on front page now.
In other news,
what ever happened to GK Gracie at ALB,
the golden glove winner that one season rating went over 99.9 and disappeared from stats!
I would be highly against removing this award. Mainly cos I usually win it. Although not this year unless Kittle get his act in to gear.
If the award is unfair, why not just remove it? I'm sure an alternative award could be found if we really need one.
Agree with William that POTS was great idea.
Maybe make it youth players this time?
Exclude GK's again though - they already too strong at many teams for another SL boost.
Tricky altering a statistic award that will show on the web pages in table of stats - but be awarded using a different criteria.
After 59 seasons stats kinda set in stone. But I understand reasoning to wish a change to make it "fairer".
May need 20 managers to want change though?
Seconded. I'm not too fussed on what metric would be used, as long as it isn't so tied to # of shots faced. So, save percentage seems decent enough.
Also, I think it would be easy enough to pay someone 50 or 100k to spend 20 minutes grabbing all the league save %s.
The present formula is rubbish and I drew attention to it last season by exploiting it. Don't worry I won't do that again.
But it favours teams with good keepers but rubbish defence. Can we simply have it as save% with perhaps a minimum number of minutes played. These are easy to check.
And rather than Commish having to go through all 48 teams we put forward our own players on the Notebook.
Are we doing POTS again this season.
Last season was a great and interesting inovention.
CEL sends Nicolas Kuhn (3/26 WG) to EDI for Jamie Taggart (3/26 MA)
ABE sends 100k, Bute Yard (3/9 MF) to DFA for 3 TP
NAI sends 5 TP to LIV for 500k
GM sends 7 TP to LIV for Virgil van Dijk (3/22 DF)
Well, don't I feel like a fool after the same 0/8 WG I just bought last week for 901k went for a grand total of 101k this week. Would have been quite the payoff had Motherwell decided to be patient!
Overall one of the best bargain auctions I've seen in some time. Almost all of the purchases seem to be decent deals, and plenty of time left in the season.
GM sends 5 TP to ABE for Broad Wood (3/17 MF)
NAI sends 2 TP to ABE for 200k
Just noticed we have the lowest morale figure in all the set up. 1st again (or 48th if you plan to be negative about it). Ayr are running me close, but even being lowest we cling to 4th top place in the 1st division till next weekend when Arbroath and East Fife (my 1st loss in the league) play me. No prizes for lowest morale then? Thought not.. :-)
DEE sends 20k, 3 TP to LIV for 3 CP
YES - so I actually won something - haven't had a win for weeks - 0 in the prediction league for this week.
No, wait, that's not good is it? What? Nothing for standing out from the rest of the field. 💰. Boo!! 😂😂
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 6 26th July 2025:
ARB(50) LIV(50)
There were 23 entries in a low-scoring round. The average score was 3.8, assisted by a magnificent 0 by Mr.Blair.
There were two draws, always difficult to predict, and Berwick's win against Dunfermline (the most popular banker choice) was only predicted by three managers. Two managers managed to score six points, so congratulations to John at Livingston and Cameron at Arbroath who each earn 50k for their club.
Cowdenbeath have opened up a little gap at the top, and will take a bit of catching now. The next round will be crictical as it's the Cup round, which can't be dropped from the final scores. This will happen on August 13th and I'll post on the notebook when the draw is known.
Prediction | ABE v ALO | BRE v AI | DFA v BER | FAL v COV | INV v EST | PT v FOR | ROS v MON | STI v QP |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 13% | 57% | 74% | 48% | 74% | 91% | 52% | 61% |
Away | 78% | 35% | 13% | 52% | 9% | 4% | 35% | 22% |
Draw | 9% | 9% | 13% | 0% | 17% | 4% | 13% | 17% |
Banker Count | 13% | 4% | 30% | 4% | 13% | 22% | 4% | 4% |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | Round 6 | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 6 | 4 | 8 | 5 | 38 | Arbroath | 6 | |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 8 | 3 | 35 | Livingston | 6 | |
3 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 4 | 33 | Cowdenbeath | 5 | |
4 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 5 | 32 | East Fife | 5 | |
5 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 2 | 31 | Forfar | 5 | |
6 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 8 | 4 | 30 | Hearts | 5 | |
7 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 8 | 7 | 4 | 29 | Nairn | 5 | ||
8 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 28 | Partick Thistle | 5 | ||
9 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 27 | Rangers | 5 | |
9 | Elgin City | 5 | 9 | 3 | 7 | 3 | 27 | Deveronvale | 4 | ||
9 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 27 | Dundee | 4 | ||
9 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 7 | 27 | Dunfermline | 4 | ||
13 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 7 | 4 | 7 | 3 | 26 | Edinburgh | 4 | ||
13 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 5 | 26 | Ross County | 4 | ||
13 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 26 | East Stirlingshire | 3 | |
13 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 26 | Elgin City | 3 | |
13 | Rangers | 7 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 26 | Motherwell | 3 | ||
13 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 26 | Stirling | 3 | |
19 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 25 | Stranraer | 3 | |
19 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 25 | Annan | 2 | |
19 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 25 | Ayr | 2 | |
22 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 24 | St Johnstone | 2 | ||
23 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 3 | 7 | 22 | Hibernian | 0 | |||
24 | Arbroath | 6 | 3 | 6 | 6 | 21 | |||||
24 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 21 | |||||
26 | St Johnstone | 2 | 6 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 17 | ||||
27 | Cove Rangers | 3 | 5 | 5 | 13 | ||||||
28 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | 3 | 5 | 12 | ||||||
29 | Queen of the South | 3 | 5 | 8 | |||||||
30 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 0 | 4 | |||||||
30 | Dunfermline | 4 | 4 | ||||||||
32 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 |
The team badges at the top of the page also shows ABE(Div3) on the Div 2 line while GM(Div 2) are showing on the Div 3 line.
Although the league tables are showing GM in Division 2 and their schedule shows correct matches, the stats show them as in Division 3.
Ahh
GM page shows GM are in Div 3 - incorrect. A simple fix for the Commish.
Are my eyes wonky or does your screen have ABE badge at the end of the 2nd Div row and GM badge in the 3rd Div row?
Strange.
If Cameron says there was no tick I will go with that.
I was sure I'd done my orders last night and then put the predictions in.
(There are no future orders - I was looking at the 2 NMRs)
The team with one entry in was me, and it was deliberate as I knew I would be in the house at 4pm - allowing me an hour to put in the 2nd one. Any injury in the 1st match can be altered by me instead of the computer, and any upcoming suspension means I will play the lad in game 2 so he can gain a full set of ELs when sitting out next weekend.
We all have our own way of working and that is the way it should be. I don't do it every week that way - in fact next Saturday I will be on a cruise ship so both will be in before Saturday morning.
And I don't listen to lads who say the site might be down or wifi etc etc - the worst that could happen is I go NMR and the computer will improvise - and at the moment likely to do a better job than me. :-(
I thought every one clicked "review orders" when they had finished entering lineups to make sure they had saved.
STI never had a tick against it in match schedule on front page that shows pre match comments this morning.
Nor did INV today.
And a 3rd team had tick for first match but not second game of today. Think it was Div 2, but I can't remember team.
Front page also has traffic lights for your own team to alert you.
Frustrating for sure. But local wifi of user may have timed out rather than any game error.
AI sends 120k to EDI for 1 CP
Can't seem to find it. Might have been an older discussion than the archives maintain. May have to rely on someone with a better memory than me
I have a vague memory of this being brought up years ago as something that happened. I will try to search the archive a bit to see if it is still there.
Not sure what happened
Orders were in
All future orders currently showing as passive 442
STI sends 155k to CB for Billy McGhie (4/13 DF)
MOT sends 325k to HIB for 1 CP, 2 TP
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 34:
Stenhousemuir - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Deveronvale - MVP #5: 25k (WWW)
Peterhead - MVP #5: 25k (wWw)
Ross County - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 33:
Arbroath - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWd)
Motherwell - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Edinburgh City - MVP #4: 1 CP (WWW)
Brechin City - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WDw)
Inverness - MVP #3: 1 TP (Wdw)
That last round of the cup was pretty enjoyable dont you think?
Energy Level perhaps a factor in trade?
Half of BER starting 11 is on around 2, 3 or 4 EL. And a 2/23 DM on 0 (zero) EL.
Squad numbers increased by 1 at BER too.
After oldies cash-in, now 30 (thirty) teams in Sesl have 19 players or less. When suspensions of 2 or 3 matches kick in later in season roster size may be a crucial factor for some.
Both managers have plenty of experience and I'm sure will see it as a fair deal.
On the value of the trade - no.
On the point of the trade? I think Derek would have been better keeping the CP and using 11 on his DF and DM taking them both to 30. The players he got aren't going to stop him getting the wooden spoon or be any use next season.
Opinions anyone ?
RAN sends Frankie de Boer (2/10 DF), Alex Lowry (4/14 MF) to BER for 5 CP, D_Blanks (5/9 MA)
ABE sends 250k, Andy Latimer (6/4 DF) to DFA for Joe Chalmers (4/16 MF)
STJ sends 3 TP to AI for 300k
BRE sends 1 TP to AI for 100k
This is your Friday reminder!
Is I know need to field my under 12 team in the next game
John at LIV has hit on something I love the idea of. Wins vs your rivals means more. Should it be cash (I like ks for every player on a or d - I'd say started with rather than finished but it still open to abuse) or should it be an increase in the Morale boost for a win?
Fwiw PET have 3 main rivals. FAL and their ex manager Rhys Brisenden and main played Sherry Debbins are still sing about on the stands, and the other two being ARB (Dave Campbells old team, a classic rival and he knows why) and Killie, which is legacy for us and historically ran by Mark until that bloody Dave guy took over (childhood fan my arse) and if I was ever tempted to unrival them that went to pot when he took over.
Eduard, my sincere apologies for refering to your lineup as 'junk'. I meant dross.
I am not sure if this was the worst DEE lineup of the season but it is surely in the top two.
Perhaps this was in an effort to get DUM up the charts*. If so, thank you!
* the JUNK charts - not the League Table.
So tables mean teams play hardest against LIV and DEE,
but go easy when they play ARB and DUM?
With the SESL group stage ahead, not much junk news this week - but Dumbarton rising fast.
Team | Junk | JvJ |
NAI | 5 | 3 |
DUM | 5 | 1 |
ARB | 4 | 3 |
ALB | 4 | 1 |
HIB | 4 | 0 |
SRA | 3 | 2 |
FRA | 3 | 0 |
ELG | 3 | 0 |
ANN | 2 | 2 |
EF | 2 | 0 |
MOT | 2 | 0 |
HEA | 2 | 0 |
STE | 2 | 0 |
CLY | 2 | 0 |
LIV | 1 | 1 |
DEE | 1 | 1 |
NAI defend their top spot - only just.
DUM are serious contenders now, even if not everything is as junky as they think.
3 teams trailing with 4 junk.
Team | AVG |
ARB | 56,6 |
DUM | 57,3 |
HIB | 58,8 |
SRA | 59,2 |
ALB | 59,4 |
NAI | 60,0 |
ELG | 60,0 |
FRA | 60,8 |
HEA | 61,1 |
MOT | 61,5 |
CLY | 61,5 |
STE | 61,6 |
EF | 62,0 |
ANN | 63,3 |
DEE | 63,4 |
LIV | 63,8 |
Not much news here - besides DUM's major rise.
It's now a two horse race between ARB and DUM - only 0.7 between them.
At the bottom the well-known three keep their distance to the rest.
No interesting JOTW this week, but a non-junk deserves mention:
DUM vs DEE 73/52 1-1
Colin himself called this junk, I didn't.
DEE's 52% are well within junk range, but their SL39 GK certainly was not.
So - using the previous definitions - DEE's lineup was just not junky enough to be junk.
DUM should be quite content with their faced lineups, nonetheless.
Now with 20% more passive aggression!
1. Edinburgh's Eternal Sulk
Hibernian (3rd in Div 1) and Edinburgh City (8th in Div 2) continue their bitter feud over who really owns the capital. Hibs claim history, City claims the tram route. Hibs fans argue they’re in Division 1 for a reason; City fans retort: “That’s just because you can’t get promoted from it.”
2. The Dundee Derby: Neighbours, Enemies, Queue Partners
Dundee FC (3rd, Div 1) and Dundee United (10th, Div 2) live closer than most married couples, yet share less than the average estranged in-laws. Dundee United fans bring up ancient glories; Dundee FC fans say, “Scoreboard.” The real winner is the kebab shop on Tannadice Street.
3. Glasgow’s Identity Crisis
Ah yes, Rangers (9th, Div 2) and Celtic (14th, Div 2) — the Old Firm, now the Old Frail. Both languish in Division 2 mid-table purgatory like two pensioners arguing over whose grandkids are more disappointing. At this point, even Queen’s Park (8th, Div 3) might beat them — and politely too.
4. The Fife Fisticuffs
East Fife (11th, Div 1), Cowdenbeath (7th, Div 2), and Raith Rovers (6th, Div 2) all share a postcode and a grudge. They’re locked in a triangular standoff, where no one remembers why they hate each other, but they’re committed to it. The derby is known locally as “The Kingdom Clash,” or more informally, “That Game Where It Always Rains.”
5. Highland Hostility
Nairn County (14th, Div 1) vs. Elgin City (5th, Div 1) vs. Inverness (14th, Div 3) — the Highland Triangle. Elgin boasts goals galore, while Nairn claims they have the better pub. Inverness insists the weather is a form of tactical advantage. Nobody watches the games — the wind carries the ball away.
6. Motherwell vs. Everyone
Motherwell (top of Div 1) are currently too good for beef. But rest assured, everyone below them collectively hates their smug goal difference and suspiciously consistent form. Fraserburgh (2nd) are quietly plotting revenge involving a foghorn and a dodgy penalty decision.
Honourable Mention: The Sad Ayrshire Derby
Ayr United (rock bottom of Div 2) and Kilmarnock (12th) are locked in a downward spiral of shared disappointment. Kilmarnock wins the derbies, but Ayr wins at bingo night. Everyone else wins by not watching.
Click on Update Info as if you adding to Bio or "team about" to select your rivalry teams.
That took me 15 minutes to find !
I am rivals to no teams.
Surely HIB and HEA dislike their geographical neighbours from west lothian?
It adds a great experience to the game.
Especially when you win.
Which we did.
You Daily Reminder as promised Matt
I enjoyed the EST v ALB rivals match yesterday.
Could we incorporate rivalry matches for all teams once person?
Maybe 10k bonus for every player who finishes the match aggressive or dirty!
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Passive/aggressive keepers:
I know Colin didn't ask a question but here's an answer. I picked a game at random - ARB vs EST and worked out how ARB's shot chance would alter depending on EST's GK. At the start of the game it was 12%. EST playing aggressive GK would only reduce this to 11.4% and passive 12.5%. If they had that mythical 3/38 GK it would be 11% and 12.8%.
So you give up half/one extra shot (on average) to be able to play him 80% of the games rather than 66%. Or you stop an extra half/one shot playing him 50% of the time and risking a red card and penalty.
Colin's little remark about Rangers and Division 3. I kinda agree, but not so much as what was paid as both teams increased their 17th player by quite a lot of SL. Also Cove had 6 attackers and Steve likes to play 4 up front. Having a 7th makes sense for cover. But an SL 17 FW is not all that great really with about a 12% chance of scoring against an SL 27 GK taking into account offsides and being on target. I'll be marking the life out of him when we play because he's bound to score a hat-trick against us otherwise. Having said that, Cove are going to get promoted and Steve is doing a great job there.
Press vs Early Cross:
In the ALB vs EST massacre I noticed ALB changed to Press but their shot chance went down. You'd expect it to go up. The problem was as EST were playing Opportunistic, ALB had a bonus from the DFs. This meant no increase in OFF there. Also WG OFF dropped from 1.95 to 1.45 while MF OFF increased from 0.5 to 1.0 As the WGs were higher SL than the MFs this means a drop in OFF over all.
2:1 and forced repositions:
ALB were playing 1-3-2-4 and had a MF sent off. This forced a DF to move up to MF 1-2-2-4. Later on they had a DF sent off so had just one DF. Tebow had to move back to DF, but that meant one MF so he moved back to MF 1-1-2-4. Unfortunately with just an SL 12 DF, 2:1 reduced MF from 38 to 24 and thus FW from 71 to 48. And playing Press. No wonder they got slaughtered.
Rivals:
Some of you will know that my teams played Willy's teams 4 times in cup games on Wednesday. The chances of this happening must be very low as the teams would have to be drawn together (or apart as one was the 3rd or 4th round) and Cup games scheduled that day. Next week there is no cup on Wednesday, the other leagues often have league games on Wednesday.
Anyway in memory of this I've changed all my rivals to Willy's teams in all 4 leagues.
HEA sends 1 TP to AI for 100k
Great feature.
Especially the first one of season so more age 0 are purchased.
I still feel TP is undervalued.
DEV sends 200k to PT for 2 TP
ARB sends 198k to PT for 2 TP
AI sends 195k to PT for 2 TP
Actually I thought it was a good step for SESL (Iasl uses a system too) allowing managers to cash in for retiring older players. We all need to be aware of the values as we claim the cash from Mark. 💰💰
Personally I like the scheme - alternative is they get ancient, nobody buys them and we retire them for zip.
PET sends 400k to HEA for 4 TP
My eye brow may have been briefly raised while sipping my beer, but then I spotted the same team sold for 4TP a now 5/15 (was 5/20 FW earlier in season).
No issue today.
As you were.
The scheme to get cash for retiring a player has been with us for a number of seasons now and I was wondering if anyone actually uses the scale to value old dross?
The scale is - IMO - PITS. It's a made up number that does not reflect the true value of old guys that previously just wasted away.
In other news - well done RAN. Giving it to these Div 3 guys!
I get why you would play your GK passive. Saves EL. Dropping just 1 EL every game instead of 2. Yip. Makes sense.
The loss in GP? Well, if your GK is 3/38 (no idea why that random number popped into my head) then, perhaps, you don't care how many extra shots the opposition get as your man will likely save them all - or one anyway.
So, conversely, why would you play 9 dirty or 5 aggresive and leave the GK on normal. Not a real a question, just in my wee head.
An aggressive GK adds 25% of his SL to GP.
Anyway, I watched the ALB v EST game on the viewer, even though I knew the score. Min 90 was well worth the wait. Cracker.
WHAT. A. GAME.
COV sends 2 CP, 1 TP to RAN for 50k, Cyriel Dessers (6/17 FW)
BRE sends 3 TP to RAN for Danilo (5/15 FW)
Yeah you just can't play 9 players on dirty and expect to have fewer than two reds any more!
Jedi for life
Ours will be on Thursday...
Thank you for all the well wishes. We did the peoples work for all the people!
ALB out the cup at the hands of EST. The Force Awakens
A) it doesn't matter who's in charge, ARB will remain a rival to my PET.
B) as a team that went through on 4 points I don't think it's harsh at all....
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru July 20th:
ALB(30) ALO(50) ARB(20) DUM(50) DEE(15) EF(50) EST(10) EDI(25) FAL(20) FRA(25) HEA(20) HIB(35) LIV(20) MOT(50) NAI(10) PT(15) PET(10) RAN(30) ROS(25) STJ(10) SRA(50)
PET sends Al Bondigas (2/28 MF) to MOT for 400k, 7 TP, Joe Ely (5/12 DM)
Hibs are on top with a better GD. It was tight though. Phew!
Quite harsh that 3 teams out the Sesl cup despite earning 7 points.
🫣
Well that was exciting!
DFA sends 110k to CLY for Robbie Hemfrey (4/11 GK)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 32:
Queens Park - MVP #3: 1 TP (wDw)
East Fife - MVP #4: 1 CP (dWw)
Hearts - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wDw)
Fraserburgh - MVP #4: 1 CP (Www)
Falkirk - MVP #4: 1 CP (WWd)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #5: 25k (wwD)
Cove Rangers - MVP #7: 25k (Wdw)
Whether real-life or SESL, or frankly any situation I might find myself in, I always want to beat AYR :)
Ayrshire area derby a thing in Sesl?
Not as big as ALB v EST obviously!!
Dave and I have been discussing these games as well as we could easily end up in the same position with KIL / PET!
All going to be quite tight.....
Eduard answered the query. Thanks. 👍
Panic, nope, not fussed either way. If we qualify I'll be on the High Seas when the KOs start and if we go out today we get midweeks off. Decision already made as to play to win or rest the lads. Thinking more of participation rather than results - mojo missing at the moment. 🤔
Wins for KIL and PET will make your question obsolete so no need to be concerned.
Don't worry - no alphabet.
Clubs with equal Pts shall have that tie broken using the following criteria (in order): ...
- Leading Goal scorer
- Flip of a coin
Last time I looked Hibs and Ayr United were in 4th and 5th place in their group. They have exactly the same points, goal difference, and same number of goals scored. They drew their match against each other 0-0. If both teams end exactly the same after Wednesday will the same happen - seems to be a random position as normally alphabetical would be the way. Hibs would go through and Ayr not - think I would be aggrieved if that happened and I was manager of Ayr. However unlikely it will after 4pm tomorrow. :-)
RAN sends 75k to CB for Marvin Andrews (5/8 DF)
DFA sends 80k to CB for Emiliano Martinez (5/11 GK)
EDI sends 200k, 2 TP, Franco Baresi (3/24 SW) to CLY for Marley Redfern (2/25 WG)
Paul logged in to submit PL entry for Saturday - more important than SESL Cup.
I don't want edit my lineup at last minute as opponent hasn't submitted his match orders yet.
No one likes winning (or losing!) to a team that goes "No Moves Received"
I spotted AYR active on web page 3 times today, so hoping Paul is putting final touches to his masterplan before he commits line up 31.
Good luck to all teams later today.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 31:
Dundee FC - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Annan Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwD)
Livingston - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Deveronvale - MVP #4: 1 CP (wwD)
That is the holy grail - 35 CP pre-season
Plan is not to fail that again this season.
However there is a UT player begging for CP this season.
In the past I would only ever buy 35 CP pre-season because 40 CP costs 500k more. I'd rather keep the money then bid 100k/CP in auctions and maybe get some cheap.
But CP prices being what they are I tend to buy what I can afford now. That being said I did want CP recently so did make sure it didn't go too cheap knowing I could probably get back what I paid.
Looks set to catch more than a few managers out. Let's hope the orders flood in today.
Nothing much to say this week as the blog has not been hitting the heights of two weeks ago. In fact, I note that some guys are just copying from my blog/journal posts and then adding something along the lines of - no comment. There is not much* participation there and I watch with interest how much a blog like that scores on the PB scale.
* any
I think MOT were 2nd placed four times in the resources auction 6.
Steve at ALO is another who tactically bids some times just to make sure resources don't go too cheap, so hats off to him.
Age 0 players may go for a bit less as each auction progresses and less matches left to get the 10 PU added.
Has the day of 1k auction wins a thing of the past now?
Hearts standing in the way of MOT getting a great deal on the player they needed. Pushed us up just over what I would consider the average expected price for an 0/8 WG. Expected to pay about that given the lack of apprentice WGs so far in auctions, but always tough knowing you were one Dave S vacation week away from getting a steal! Part of why Dave is such a top manager and why I would need to win... 268 out of my next 294 matches to equal his career record 😵💫
Looks like all the teams on 9 points out of 9 have qualified for the next round already.
The math is simple for DEE, FRA, PT, MOT, and ALO. For STJ and SRA, the schedule works in their favor, as while 4 teams below them could all pass these two, not all four could pass them together due to matches against each other.
7 teams already qualified after 3 matches seems a pretty large number. But, perhaps my memory fails me here and this is normal. Will be most interesting looking at the standings with 1 match to go after tomorrow's fixtures
Last took place in Season 53. EST won 7-4. its that kind of game.
This is our first SESL Cup meeting since season 50 which ALB won.
Pretty Straight Forward. Fans needed the ying to ALB's Yang. Like the force vs. the dark side.
Also it true that Matt and I were not at a Coldplay concert together
Rumour has it that EST played all dirty in a game against ALB injuring two of their players, knocking them out for the rest of the season.
Either that or they support rival teams that aren't that good anyway.
What is the back story of this rivalry?
The schedule game 32 it's on. Biggest game of the season in SESL. East Stirlingshire otherwise known as that other team
Good to have it back Paul.
Thanks for your efforts with it.
The PL resumes next Saturday, 26th July with the Round 33 Division 3 matches. The entry form is on the Notebook.
The following teams receive Physio Boost through Jimmy O'Rourke:
HIB(-80)
The following teams receive cost to change Captain through Connor McMillan:
COW(-100)
To Connor McMillan please
CLY sends 45k to STE for Michee Efete (5/5 DF)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 30:
Partick Thistle - MVP #4: 1 CP (Www)
Motherwell - MVP #5: 25k (Www)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 29:
Albion Rovers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Wwd)
Fraserburgh - MVP #3: 1 TP (Www)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #6: 25k (wwW)
Stranraer - MVP #3: 1 TP (www)
Good planning Steve.
And fair price received for your CP.
I suspect the CP value may rise further nearer end of season if managers get desperate to hit 30 or 35 SL's.
So I had 17 CP at MSA, which was planned as I had just 19 guaranteed games left. I never assume I'll qualify for the knockout stages and like to have the last weekend free in case of suspensions. I decided we could use 23 CP: 15 on Howarth and Reid to take them to 25, and 8 on Williams and Graham to take them to 30. 6 CP needed assuming we lost to Berwick on Wednesday.
I bid 110k per CP for lots of 9, 8, 8 and 7 CP and 840k for the last 7 CP. The first bids were so it didn't go too cheap. Andy made sure we paid the full 990k (the second time this season we bid 1k below me) for the 9 CP but I got the first 7 CP the knock down price of 756k.
Colin immediately offered me 330k for 3 CP (that's when I realised we'd won a few) and I worked out what to do. I accepted the offer and decided that I could use 2 CP on my GK, as well as the aforementioned 23. After the MVP on Wednesday I decided to sell the unwanted 6 CP. I thought a little profit was OK and Kev bought them an 120k each. Only 70k profit. If they didn't go then I'd save them for next season.
Then I realised I still had one spare - it took ages to work out why - Williams already had 8 PU so could only get to 29. I only needed 4 in the first place (not counting the 2 on my GK). I let Kev have that for 110k - can't be seen to be taking too much of an advantage.
In the end it worked out well. 16 CP bought for 1746k. 10 sold for 1160, so the 6 cost me 584k, which pleases me. Maybe not so old after all.
NAI sends 1 TP to SRA for 100k
GM sends Jari Litmanen (6/5 FW), Lapain (7/1 MF), Dave (7/1 MF) to CLY for 70k
Sesl cup has a Monday then Wednesday fixture.
Just a heads up to anyone who hasn't noticed schedue dates.
ALO sends 1 CP to AI for 110k
I don't feel the need. Let me know if I am missing something.
DUM journal Grapes this week:
"We know from AI accounts that Kev bought CP for 43k each"
I'm making no comment on volatile CP price valuations for trades from same club.
I wonder if Colin from sesl Accounts will.
HEA sends 4 TP to PET for 404k
AI sends 720k to ALO for 6 CP
The following teams receive retire for cash through :
AI(204) ALB(134) ALO(100) ARB(402) CEL(107) CLY(428) COV(126) COW(30) DUM(280) DEE(172) DFA(120) EF(108) FAL(384) FOR(140) FRA(237) HAM(194) LIV(86) MOT(144) NAI(70) PT(180) PET(302) QP(80) RAN(240) STJ(74) STI(86)
HIB Jimmy O'Rourke MA
Many moons ago, someone told me that it is unlucky to be logged-in while the games are running. So I am going away to have a cuppa. Back later...
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 28:
Dundee FC - MVP #5: 25k (WdW)
East Fife - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwD)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #4: 1 CP (wwD)
Falkirk - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
Edinburgh City - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Deveronvale - MVP #3: 1 TP (wwW)
Understandably all SESL managers are selling any player they can afford to,in order to get in funds. SESL is a constant battle of not having enough funds to execute the plans we want.
What a pitty we dont have ladies teams to sell to our owners the way Chelsea and now Aston Villa are in order to meet their financial fair play requirements.
In a rival offer SRA have now put on the market 4TP at the bargain discounted rate of $150k. "The market is booming" said one Coach as demand far outstrips supply 3 to 1. Stranraer Boss McCumiskey commented that the Blues TPs are top quality which just cannot be matched by any found in the Captial.
Quite a youth programme going on at PET.
38 TP needed to max PU on PET boys.
Overpriced TP available at HEA tor 100k a piece!
Got the job done eventually. Was on a train back from a lovely weekend in Paris yesterday!
Seems popular today.
Nearly half the teams in Sesl awaiting free money for oldies.
PET the only team still to retire their players I think, when I glanced over breakfast earlier.
Converting old players for cash, 16th July 2025
Link on NOTEBOOK now.
All players need be retired before match 28 kicks off tomorrow.
Two teams failed to do this at first cash-in last month, so I need be consistent and stick to the simple rules and deadline.
If you are late, you lose out.
any player age 4+ with SL12 or less is eligable to be cashed in.
Age 4 players at 15k per SL
Age 5 players at 12k per SL
Age 6 players at 10k per SL
Age 7+ players at 8k per SL
14/7/25 CP for 43k each
Also DUM
July 13, 2025
DUM sends 330k to ALO for 3 CP.....
Also DUM
spent 525k so far in extra CP slots at 25k each
Halfway there so don't stop by just posting all things that we know. Make it make sense now. Tell us what these numbers mean and why. I need to know!
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru July 13th:
AI(10) ALB(35) ALO(50) ARB(50) COV(10) DEV(15) DUM(50) DEE(50) EF(40) EST(20) EDI(40) FAL(15) FRA(30) HEA(20) HIB(50) LIV(35) MOT(50) NAI(25) PT(40) RR(15) RAN(20) ROS(20) STJ(40) SM(25) STE(10) SRA(40)
The counter argument against Andrew's proposal is to avoid unnecessary complications.
I fully agree that the commisioner's work should be minimized whereever possible.
Here, though, the solution is quite simply.
If the opponent (only!) notices a cup-tied player and wishes to correct this, he has a manual right to appeal for a win-by-default within 24 hours.
Everything but the team reaching the next round stays the same, e.g. ELs, MVPs, etc.
If the opponent doesn't notice anything (cf DEE vs FRA), all fine, move on.
Minimal effort for Mark, and very few people would risk fielding a new star.
This could also remove the artificial semi final and SL 20 suggestion. A cup tied player is a cup tied player, regardless of round or skill.
Dont panic Mr Mainwaring.
Team | Panic Level | Diagnosis |
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Annan Athletic(16th, 10 pts) | 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Nuclear | Still bottom, but hey, they scored! Baby steps. Unfortunately, drawing against a wobbly Albion Rovers doesn't qualify as hope. |
Stenhousemuir(15th, 17 pts) | 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Meltdown | Shipped four at home to Stranraer. Defense? Missing. Dignity? Also missing. Fans? Probably halfway to Stranraer just to have words. |
Nairn County(14th, 17 pts) | 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Unplug the toaster | Lost 4–0 in under 50 minutes. The goalkeeper might still be staring into space. On current form, they’re in freefall with no parachute. |
Livingston(13th, 18 pts) | 🔥🔥 Alert but breathing | Beat Hibs 3–0, which is either a massive fluke or the start of a zombie resurrection. Stay tuned for "Salah: The Championship Years." |
Clyde FC (12th, 18 pts) | 🔥🔥 Coffee jitters | McCall’s carrying them on his back like a dad playing FIFA against toddlers. Two goals this week and a win—they’re alive, but barely. |
East Fife (11th, 18 pts) | 🔥🔥 Mild sweats | Won a 7-goal thriller, mostly thanks to Kieran Millar doing everything except selling pies at halftime. They're scrapping, but still in the swamp. |
Hearts (10th, 20 pts) | 🔥 Mild unease | Scored 4, conceded 5. Clearly playing 90s playground football: "all forward, no back." Keep that up and they’ll slide into the vortex. |
Stranraer (9th, 22 pts) | 🌤️ Relief detected | Cruised past Stenny with style. Xian Carbon looks like he was forged in a lab built by bored wizards. For now, they’re safe. |
Another week in Division 1, and if this season were a soap opera, Episode 26 just introduced long-lost twins, dramatic send-offs, and a whole lot of yellow cards.
Let’s start at the top: Motherwell edged past Stranraer 2-1, with country music legends Ray Wylie Hubbard and Jerry Jeff Walker moonlighting as strikers. Xian Carbon pulled one back, but by then, Motherwell had already yodeled their way to victory and a solid 7-point lead at the summit. Ryan Martin saw yellow at the death—possibly for excessive harmonica playing.
Fraserburgh smashed Nairn County 3-1, proving they’re not here to make friends. Ferran Torres scored twice while Raphina got in on the act. Barcelona alumni continue to terrorize Highland defenders, who now have PTSD every time someone speaks Spanish. They’re now level on points with Hibs but ahead on sheer audacity.
Hibernian cruised past Stenhousemuir with a flurry of goals and bookings. Five players picked up yellows, leading some to believe Hibs are collecting them for a raffle. Still, goals from Boyle and O’Rourke were enough to keep them in the title chase.
Dundee FC looked dominant in a 2-0 win over Hearts. Tiffoney and O’Connor scored within a minute, causing whiplash in the stands and confusion in the Hearts backline. Jorge Grant tried to slow things down with a yellow card but forgot to tell his teammates.
Arbroath’s Cole Palmer netted twice in a 2-1 win over Elgin City, who conceded in both the 3rd and 90th minutes—a classic “fall asleep early, then again late” performance. Arbroath leap to 6th with a look of smug mid-table satisfaction.
Dumbarton blanked Annan Athletic, who have now scored fewer goals than an unplugged video game. Sean Quinlan and Ross Chapman did the damage, while Gap Filla saw yellow—perhaps for failing to fill any actual gaps in defense.
In a thriller, East Fife and Livingston drew 2-2. Kieran Millar scored, then got booked (multitasking king), while Mo Salah appeared out of nowhere to score for Livingston—maybe he got lost on his way to Anfield?
Meanwhile, Clyde FC beat Albion Rovers 2-0 thanks to a McCall double. That result propels them up to the dizzying heights of 14th, which in this league is like kissing the clouds.
Annan, sadly, remain bottom. They scored a league-low 9 goals all season—some of which, allegedly, were accidents. More Grapes anyone?
DUM grapes journal:
14/7/25 CP for 43k each
Also DUM
July 13, 2025
DUM sends 330k to ALO for 3 CP.....
Also DUM
spent 525k so far in extra CP slots at 25k each
My tongue firmly in my cheek.
........is certainly an excellent read, so also is the DUM version. (Rushdie can certainly relax a bit knowing he's no longer the most contraversial -Ed). Certainly worth $50k of anybodies cash..
In fact it's that good I read it twice in case I missed anything.
I did.
My lawyer will contact yours soon, Mr Scott.
I only expected to win my final one if any - the others were to keep the bids high.
I don't think I'll have a problem with Mr Hood now.
Big money being splashed yet again for CP at auction tonight.
DUM sends 330k to ALO for 3 CP
Yes I could pay maybe 120k per CP and avoid Robin Hood - then fail to win any end of season rewards and so have paid over the odds.
Like I said it's not the cap - teams could hoard cash (the tax idea is a good one) - but the fact that you have 24 hours to spend it when the trade window is closed (though if before the season ends you can use spare cash on home bonus) and that means it goes to other teams.
If the end of season awards are paid when the trade window has re-opened then fair enough.
Some of us poorer teams rely on end of season awards to get us to that magical 1500k. Hope they don't host cut back
Great - we are 14th in T17 and 15th in T11 in the 1st division.
And about 23rd in overall T17.
2nd division here we come 👍👍
Punched above our weight early on but we can still make the relegation spots - there's enough games left. 👍👍👍
And in case somebody comes up with the gem my DPs are the highest in the league, my answer is "get off my case - it's the way I WANT to play, and someone has to top the table. Why not me??" 😉😉
The auction today is all resources. If you have any chance of hitting 4000k with awards, just buy up 10 or 20 CP to carry into next season. Then you can start next season still with 50 CP but also 2000k or whatever amount more than the normal 1000k max.
Not too sure how this suggestion would work but just throwing out a different option....Perhaps lower the K's of end of season awards, and certainly level the playing field re amounts achievable for D1, D2 & D3...and maybe add some other awards(all at a LOWER payment level) that are aimed at teams that were not so successful but have achieved something extra despite not WINNING a division or Cup etc.
I hope my explaination makes sense LOL
The trial on-going towards end of current season is to open trade window before the close season awards handed out so rich teams have a chance to trade away excess cash for resources or a player to stay within Robin Hood axe falling on their funds.
The new rule was primarily to help the teams with too little cash to buy any pre season CP, but cash rich teams can also utilise this situation.
I not sure any team needs over 4,000k and it does tend to be end of season awards that push teams over the Robin Hood limits. End of season awards maybe need cut back to prevent the rich (successful) teams just getting richer and richer.
All rules will be reviewed in September, and any further changes can be in place for next season.
All Steves points make sense.
Aditionally the low artificial limit we impose forces players to of necessity play in a similar manner to each other
whereas the ideal I believe ,is to allow as many playing/manager styles as possible to add skill and also more managers being able to have a great season at the same time due to different goals being achieved.
I have said this before and I'll say it again. I think that having a hard cap on cash balances is wrong for the reasons Steve mentions. It's OK to tax the rich teams but not in such a draconian way. Tax a percentage of cash above 4000k, and maybe a higher percentage above 5000k. And give rich teams a chance to trade away excess cash before the tax is imposed. The current system punishes careful cash management.
CB sends 260k to FRA for J Cancelo (4/19 SW)
I don't have a problem with the 4000k cap.
But as it stands if Alloa don't spend any more money on auctions or trades, get through to the knockout stages of the cup and I don't blog any more then we will finish with over 3500k.
On top of that our players are leading the bronze boot1 and rookie hot shot, and could easily win shooting squib. I don't know how we're doing in over achievers except that we started mid-table in T17 - I think around 10th. There's 1200k there.
And blogging could easily add 300k more.
That's 5000k.
"Don't blog", "spend your cash". But none of those awards are guaranteed and I'd rather have 4000k next season than 3000k.
Like I say I don't mind the cap, I mentioned earlier in the season that it's needed but I don't see why my blogs and journals should help other teams.
Considering EDI have the youngest squad in the entire SESL....
MSA was still somewhat painful but it could certainly have been much worse.
Looking forward to the rest of the season now.
Mid season skill level loss done.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 27:
Clyde FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Www)
Dumbarton - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Motherwell - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWW)
Cowdenbeath - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Www)
Cove Rangers - MVP #6: 25k (WdW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 26:
Arbroath - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Fraserburgh - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Dundee United - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #5: 25k (wWw)
Partick Thistle - MVP #3: 1 TP (WWd)
With only 4 teams in the S-Fs then the check of SL+20 (when bought) trades for these cannot be too difficult to spot? No further check would be required for the final as the players will be identified. The only question is what is the penalty? Large fine?
I've not read anyone say DEE "bought the Cecil cup". DEE would more than likely have won cup without traded in player 3/38 anyway.
Trade was "clever management" you could say.
I can appreciate the request for a poll vote on players with an SL of over 20 cannot play in the CECIL or SESL Cup finals or Semi-finals if they have previously played for a different team in an earlier round of that competition.
In principle I'd agree but seems impractical to monitor manually.
Must be a few hundred players in Sesl of 20 skill level and above, all needing checked at semi final and cup final stage. If one played, what is the retrospective solution?
Playing for a team in real life football in a cup tie rules him out for playing in the same cup for another team. That's in stone basically but would be almost impossible to do here in SESL. as we all have an opportunity to buy in if we see a cup win appearing, then at least that's something we can all do- it's whether we would bust the bank for something few remember when the following matches start up. (Did Liverpool give a jot when Man City played Crystal Palace in the FA Cup Final - don't think so..)
This is a good topic for earnings, eh? 💰
Match 5 CECIL Cup round 2, leg 1
Michael McIntyre in goal for HEA against CLY.
FRA sends 700k, 6 TP, Inaki Pena (6/10 GK) to HEA for Michael McIntyre (2/23 GK).
Match 8 CECIL Cup round 2, leg 2
Michael McIntyre in goal for FRA against....
wait
wait
DEE!
Where would you draw the line?
After team A is knocked out the Cup in round one and they sell their 3/28 player to team B before match 3. Team B coach him to 38 SL but can't play him in the Cup final. Is that correct?
These numbers are made up and have no connection to any real life event
I don't know if you have plans for all 22 CP but there's only a guaranteed 19 games after MSA. To use them all will cost you 75k. But use 2 this weekend and it only costs you 25k after MSA.
Unless they hit 20 or 30 the loss of SL will be the same whether you use CP or not (and I think ther's only 1 player you have on 19 and he won't be getting any) so you may as well have the exrtra CP sooner rather than later.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru July 6th:
ALB(35) ALO(50) ARB(10) DEV(10) DUM(10) DEE(35) EF(30) EDI(25) FAL(15) HEA(35) HIB(50) LIV(20) MOT(45) PT(20) QOS(5) RAN(15) ROS(20) STJ(10) SM(20) SRA(50)
If a player would go to 20 or 30 then don't bother as you'll just lose the extra one.
My poll comment got cut off for length, so I'll post it here:
"Very mixed on this one. I think it's fair to trade a GK like-for-like when yours gets suspended for a cup final. And I don't foresee teams selling 3/38s very often at all (haven't seen a player nearly that big traded at all in the entire 4ish years of the blog archive). I lean towards things are fine and the fairness of that trade should be handled separately from an entire rule which just adds complexity. But I wouldn't at all mind cup tying players if others like it. Just will be tough to police (maybe will require a fine, since matches can't be re-run?)"
A typo by PT boss thinking 1 TP or 1 CP likely,
and then RAN seem to have seized opportunity to poke fun at the excuses some managers made on blog recently that any trade is ok if it involved an "experienced" manager.
So one has to wonder why RAN and PT sold there 5/13 players (1 a forward 1 a defender ) for 1K each instead of just doing a direct trade?
Mid season ageing skill loss this weekend
Is best practice not to spend any CP this session, as that SL will simply be aged before it can make any use to a player?
Link on NOTEBOOK now.
Wait until after mid season aging this weekend before valuing your players
- or click on player and on top right hand side of all players it will note what SL each player will lose.
example:
Billy Gilmour, 5/12
SL at Aggressive: | 15 |
SL at Passive: | 9 |
SL at Dirty: | 15 |
SL Loss at Midseason Aging: | 4 |
All players need be retired before match 28 kicks off.
Two teams failed to do this at first cash-in last month, so I need be consistent and stick to the simple rules and deadline.
If you are late, you lose out.
Have your say on change to cup tie SL20+ players.
RAN sends 1k to PT for Dermott Gallagher (5/13 FW)
Can I propose the following rule for a poll?
"Players with an SL of over 20 cannot play in the CECIL or SESL Cup finals or Semi-finals if they have previously played for a different team in an earlier round of that competition."
For me the last word on the most recent trade / player value discussion should have gone to Paul at EF.
It is impossible to value players in a consistent way. So much depends on the particular needs of the managers concerned - or perhaps I should say "perceived needs", because two different managers in exactly the same position, with exactly the same squad, would quite possibly set themselves different objectives and so make quite different decisions, different valuations.
This can explain the 1,500 or priceless argument. I'm happy to assume most managers wouldnt sell a 3/38 players but just because AI did it doesnt make them wrong, just different.
They are all made up. Mine, yours, everyone else and those in the rules. ALL made up.
I have never used 'priceless' and I am curious as to how much this is but that can wait until I tell you all about PITS.
Jings crivens help ma boab Colin.
Whatever next.
A 3/38 worth 1500k, yet a 3/39 is priceless (fair comment actually)
It's all about opinions. No one is fully right or wrong.
Moving on...
Thank you Tyron.
I never factor in use of TP or CP when making up figures but more on that next week as I have used up all my PB for this week. ;-)
RAN sends 6 TP to STE for 5 CP
"A player is worth what an experienced manager in his right mind wants to pay for him. "
I'm guessing he meant 1TP or 1CP,
but for the banter I accepted to see if anyone does a u-turn on their displeasure at some fuss over other recent one-sided trades.
PT sends 1k to RAN for Connor Goldson (5/13 DF)
I did pose the question on blog what the 2 x 3/39 DEE players are worth. Ed has not answered that and posted Junk instead.
I haven't posted junk, but about junk. Small difference.
And my current evaluation system only gives relative values, so posting numbers like 1032 or 1768 would be rather pointless.
Right, that's the CECIL Cup bought and paid for - now guessing DEE will be aiming for the triple (League and SESL Cup to come) - who can stop them? Not us for sure..🙄🙄
I'd say priceles: one got 4 of DEE's 5 shots, scoring 2 and the other saved all 7 shots he faced and got man of the match.
>> "two situations might justify reversing a trade"
There is a 3rd way Paul, per the rules.
Good going from DEE. He paid a bargain price for a match winner. I've not said if trade right or wrong.
I did pose the question on blog what the 2 x 3/39 DEE players are worth. Ed has not answered that and posted Junk instead.
It is impossible to value players in a consistent way. So much depends on the particular needs of the managers concerned - or perhaps I should say "perceived needs", because two different managers in exactly the same position, with exactly the same squad, would quite possibly set themselves different objectives and so make quite different decisions, different valuations.
I think there are two situations might justify reversing a trade. One is where an experienced manager might be ripping off a newbie. The other is where two managers are in cahoots in some way, maybe one acting as a feeder club for the other. Nobody is suggesting that either is the case regarding the recent high-profile trade and so it should stand.
Team | Junk | JvJ |
NAI | 5 | 3 |
ARB | 4 | 3 |
ALB | 4 | 1 |
DUM | 4 | 1 |
HIB | 4 | 0 |
FRA | 3 | 0 |
ELG | 3 | 0 |
ANN | 2 | 2 |
SRA | 2 | 2 |
EF | 2 | 0 |
MOT | 2 | 0 |
HEA | 2 | 0 |
STE | 2 | 0 |
LIV | 1 | 1 |
DEE | 1 | 1 |
CLY | 1 | 0 |
Pretty much junk this week, but mostly perfectly understandable.
Suffering from stressful mid-week cup matches, especially SRA and ALB were left without much fuel.
This even lead to DEE's 1st junk opponent: SRA and DEE both silently agreed on saving their ressources for the cup final, 49/43 was a solid JvJ.
The JOTW though was much more impressive:
LIV (the only other team without junk faced before) faced junk specialist ARB, turning in 35/38 for a real JvJ classic. The numbers of this match would be rather expected in Div6, but this 2-2 was indeed happening in Div1!
NAI defend their overall lead with 5 junk faced, but 4 teams are now close behind with 4.
Team | AVG |
ARB | 55,3 |
DUM | 58,4 |
HIB | 58,4 |
NAI | 59,6 |
ALB | 59,7 |
ELG | 60,1 |
FRA | 60,5 |
SRA | 60,7 |
EF | 61,3 |
STE | 61,4 |
HEA | 61,5 |
MOT | 61,7 |
CLY | 61,9 |
DEE | 63,0 |
ANN | 63,8 |
LIV | 63,8 |
ARB are still comfortably ahead with 55%.
The bottom 3 remain the same at 63+%, but are actually closing in on the rest.
Ignoring ARB it almost looks like random noise.
Loved reading that... Maybe only thing not factored in is the cost of the Additional TP Used (Which AI have done consistently through the season). Could push the value closer to the 1400 mark?
It's 5pm in London, and 12 noon in Philadelphia,
and around the world in Sesl-land,
it's time for the Cecil Cup Final.
Time zone not to blame clearly and match 25 will try run again on the next top of the hour?
Fighting amongst sesl managers is not the reason, a source close to my laptop suggests.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 25:
Dundee FC - MVP #4: 1 CP (wwW)
I'm in Alaska and it never gets completely dark.
But a very good read - put yourself down for a full participation payment, and well worth it.
I like the breakdown and values you lay out - always up for movement, especially if they are for the start or half way through the season.
I think if I was going nowhere in the current season I'd sell the lad too as he can now bring in anybody he wants from any auction and look forward to next season. The lad might win the Cup for DEE today but he will be reducing from MSA - Kevin can look forward. Could turn out to be a good trade for both for different reasons.
Good luck to both teams today.
SESL is a numbers game – for the most part.
So let me have a look at some numbers.
Firstly, a valuation of a 3/28 – for that is the figure we use as guide. Start of season. Well, that is not listed so we have to work it out or use a bit of imagination. The guide has the following information regarding age 3 players,
3/17 175
3/18 250
3/19 325
3/20 400
3/21 450
3/22 500
3/23 550
As you can see, from SL 17 to 20 the increase is 75k for every 1 SL. Then it levels off a bit with just 50k increase for every SL up to 23. Now we have to workout what a 3/28 will be valued at. We could consider that there might be more leveling off but let’s go with 50k just to keep it simple.
My calculations would then value a 3/28 at 800k.
Next, we add 10 CP. What do you want to value that at? Well, let me tell you exactly the value of that. AI bought 35 CP for 1500k which means each CP cost 43k. Is that the value of the CP?
Let’s go with that. 10 of them is 430k. Which brings our guy to 1230k.
However, we are halfway through the season, and he is halfway to being a 4/28. There is no way to avoid this number. MSA and ESA are coming, and no more CP can be used.
So, what value should we put on a 4/28. The guide only goes as far as 4/24 and the increments are 30/40k for each SL. We will use 40k. 4/24 is 475k so 4/28 is 635k.
Would it be fair to say, at the midway point in this season, that the 3/38 guy is somewhere between 1230k and 635k? Perhaps not 900k but not as much as 1230k.
If you accept that, then AI have conned DEE something rotten.
But wait, AI might only have two more games until MSA but DEE have a very important match before the last two leagues games. The CECIL Cup Final. How much over valuation would DEE pay to secure the services of a high SL FW – who could also play in MF if DEE chose to play BC. Not that DEE will play BC, but they could. If they wanted to.
In the example above I used the figures in SESL Rules under the heading PLAYER VALUES AND AUCTIONS which includes, as it’s opening line,
Player Value rough GUIDE as at START of a season (as at summer 2024). Assume all players have PU of 0. As season progresses, values of older players may reduce especially leading up to mid-season aging skill level loss.
I have also used the figures from AI ACCOUNT page.
I have not mentioned the 2 TP used in the deal as that would cause Karen to have a fit demand that DEE are reimbursed, even though DEE are happy with the deal and could, if they wanted use this guy to bolster 5 players in midfield to make the most of the BC tactic.
I perhaps should not have mentioned the use of BC tactic but it’s out there now. Oops.
Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, AI are now the richest team in SESL. Yes, let that sink in. Kev is in danger from old Robin Hood. Who would have thought.
Please let me get back to my popcorn.
FRA sends 6 TP to QP for 5 CP
....nah, not really.
I have a 5/8 available if anyone is interested. Preferably before MSA hey?
Cant see this trade causing any stir mind you.
David, you owe me cash.
A 3/38 is worth 1350k + 2 TP. I trade TP at 85k so that's 1520k
I just traded a 4/25. Most people agree this is equivalent to a 3/22. That's 16 SL less than OConnor. CP goes in auctions for over 100k but I'm not greedy so I'll accept 100k per SL.
1520 - 1600 = -80. I paid 300k
David you owe me 380k.
We get this every season. As has been said as long as both manager are experienced players and not a newbie being taken advantage of then let it go.
More worrying it is not one of my deal coming under the microscope.
If I offer and you accept (Unless you are a newbie that Im taking advantage of) then we move on.
I spoke up about this last year (regarding the mental pressure from alarming blog posts after you make a trade) and will do it once more.
A player is worth what an experienced manager in his right mind wants to pay for him.
Period.
Find another subject to rack up party bonus (WCC or woman's EC) and leave these managers alone. You have no idea maybe, but you are killing the game with the critisizm as quite a few managers (including myself) already stay away from making trades to avoid this kinda BS.
Besides, the trade police are, as I have understood it, a handful of 'apointed' managers that discuss potential oneside deals through inbox or email and will approach the trade making duo in pb. This is not done in public on the blog. For good reasons!
Very hard to work out what players are actually worth . Obviously the fact that different managers have different needs and agendas does create a market.
I admit 1300K for a 3/38 does feel at the bottom end of a fair trade ,but the 0/17 fully trained players are harder to value. I dont think comparing them to a 1/17 next season is that far fetched .They are basically worth that amount + the extra half season one gets out of them this season.
Its probably best to not get involved with overregulating trades and activities such as training up players for resale unless the manager really is a newbie or being taken advantage of.
The more players with different agendas in the game the better as it can mean more players feel like they are having a succesful season.
RR sends 250k to FRA for Gabriel Mendoza (4/21 SW)
Personally I've nothing against the trade, or for it either. DEE have pulled a star in time for the Cup Final, but guessing many might think they "pinched" it. They have a big bank balance and money was obviously burning a hole in their pocket.
It brought to mind the fact we don't have cup tied players - maybe a pity, but difficult to get into the programme.
Mind you, I remember an eminent player telling me years ago after a certain SL the player won't be as effective...
Having said that I would have liked the boy, and he will probably score a hat trick tomorrow.
Oh, and in answer to a query - we bet in the last stages of the SESL Cup and not in the CECIL Cup - something to consider - a poll??
ALO sends 300k to HIB for Christian Doidge (4/25 FW)
Having used 37 CP (approx) DEE have hit a whoping 31.3 T11 mark. Outstanding effort and still 29 CP in reserve. Credit where credit is due. Bravo!
What happened to Cup betting this season?
We should all be able to gain from this DEE/AI deal.
Of course, my money would be on SRA...
Oh, of course Dundee have pulled a fast one — it wouldn’t be a cup final without some top-tier tomfoolery. Just days before the big clash with Stranraer, they stroll into Airdrie like they’re shopping for socks and nab Josh Connor for £1.3 million. One-point-three! You can’t even buy a decent flat in Dundee for that. But here’s the kicker — the lad’s cup-tied, yet somehow he's allowed to play? Did Habermann bribe the SESL with Irn-Bru and a tray of caramel wafers? It’s either sorcery or straight-up daylight robbery. Stranraer, who’ve clawed their way to the final with heart, grit, and a back four that looks like they met at the pub, now have to face this Premiership mercenary like it’s the Hunger Games. If Connor scores, Stranraer should be allowed to sign Lionel Messi for 10 minutes. Fair’s fair. This whole thing stinks worse than a wet pie in Brechin. Love Karen xxx.
Seems to me the managers moaning are the ones who didnt get their offers accepted. So i can only presume they were worse??? Personally i dont give two hoots either way.
If anyone wants to make one of these allegedly better offers send them my way. I have a couple of similar level players.
Grenade thrown into room, leaves quietly out the back door!
From wiki-
'Trade Dispute Committee' will deal with any trade disputes reported e.g., another manager feels an agreed trade was too one-sided.
5 random managers may also be asked to pass judgement on any unfair trades and suggest a fair add-on to even the trade up.
More than 3 managers have raised concerns on value of this 3/38 FW.
Got to love variety of opinions though - saying 0/17 trades are not worth it as next season they will be <check NAI blog> er, 0/17 will be 1/17 the NEXT season. Best practice to use current age and SL for valuations.
The selling manager AI has now blogged to ask (twice) for trade to be reversed.
There is more than one???
I am the only Karen in the village!
Love the bants though.
More popcorn please.
I didn't realise it would cause controversy so feel free to reverse it.
A few reasons why I accepted. 1 - whilst having been around a long time, I am very out of touch with the game these days. 2 - it was the best offer I received.
To put it into context I received a bid and a message with an offer of 475k.
TLDR - I don't know what I'm doing. Feel free to reverse it.
I certainly wouldn't suggest reversing the trade. Kev has been around long enough (he was my Commish back in 2005 when I first started playing these games) to know what he's doing. I just think he was underpriced and wouldn't have offered that myself.
As for all these 1/17 players going cheap in auctions, perhaps we should given up on buying 0/5 apprentices and training them up.
Hibs paid 950k plus 10 TP for a 0/17 MF and 950k plus 5 TP and 5 CP for a 0/17 FW.
Both players would have cost David 650k for the apprentice and the extra slots to get them as soon as he did. 300k for not having the inconvenience of having a rubbish player in your squad when leading Division One is not overpriced IMHO.
Nurn tuppence worth:
Point 1:
LIV made 2 offers for this player which I consider were worth more than trade agreed.
Am I a Karen? I've no idea but if so this Karen can smell the stetch of the sour grapes from here.
Point 2:
But as a reference two 0/17 players traded recently for 950k plus 10 resources.
Should this trade not be considered as excessive? These players are 1/17s next season, i recently bought a 1/16WG for 600k in the auction, arguments that the 0/17 purchasers could have waited until next season and gotten themselves a relative bargain. The other 300k and 10TP could have been used to plug any player gaps this season - that loot would fair fill any gaps with waiting a season.
How much would DEE trade his 3/39 GK or 3/39 UT? Couple of resources more than what has been paid for 3/38 FW today?
State a valuation of your 3/39 players.
When someone needs go back 26 seasons to try justify a trade then it's not ideal.
1/16 at auction last year went for 2k. That doesn't mean a 1/16 valuation in the whole of Sesl is 2k as this is beyond churlish.
Auction prices paid vary greatly to human team trading. Couple of 1/18 went for over 1000k, yet DEE only mention one for 220k from season 33 🤔
A 3/38 FW would have got AI promoted.
Now though, what are AI plans? To rattle about Div 3 for a few seasons wasting time TP'in up youth to then trade them away when at their peak 🤷
Rinse and repeat as dozen of teams tend to do here thinking youth will somehow win trophies.
We need hear from AI boss Kev to calm the flames of this trade.
FOR sends 109k to STE for Jenson (1/10 DF)
Nothing to say. There it is quite easy, Two players make a deal, maybe a mistake, maybe not, maybe uneven, maybe not. It is just a game!
And becuase I am here - 1550K for an Age III, SL 34 fully coached player doesn't seem too far off to me. MSA is just round the corner, with his current EL he has 1 - 2 games before that arrives.
Better be careful on the Karen jibes John as per the recent tribunal case as reported in the news just the other week ;-)
Pretty much buzz about a simple deal.
Kevin wanted something - and had something I could use.
No machine guns or other means of pressure involved. AI(DEE) is neither a newbie nor DEE(AI)'s farm team.
Both sides apparently content.
I won't go much into evaluation details, but a simple example what's wrong about some numbers presented ...
But as a reference two 0/17 players traded recently for 950k plus 10 resources.
Yes, they were.
I consider those deals ridiculously overpriced.
Paying 3 (or even 10*) times as much for a player than you pay for a 1/17 at the auction should be forbidden and instantely reversed!
* 1/18 sold for 220k at auction in S33!
If you want to convince me of any issues, please show me a couple of 3/34 for 4000k trades.
More than one manager had told me as a guide 3 SL per age when comparing players.
0/17 may equal 1/20. 2/23 and 3/26. An easy guide.
I am not saying a 0/26 equals a 3/38.....
But as a reference two 0/17 players traded recently for 950k plus 10 resources.
Airdrie might be due upto double what they received.
Tend to agree on the price, think Steve's journal suggestion of value >>2000k is closer to my expectation. Not sure how we've gotten to the point where an 0/17 is worth 30% more than a 3/38.
I'd reverse trade. But I know a few Karen's here won't like that.
The 10 CP spent on player is worth over 1,000k, plus potentially 10 x 25k extra CP slots to coach.
LIV made 2 offers for this player which I consider were worth more than trade agreed.
Surely underpriced.
......surely cup tied??
Huge loss for Airdrie.
Not sure why AI selling such a pivotal player.
DEE sends 1350k, 2 TP to AI for Josh OConnor (3/38 FW)
ELG sends 6 TP to STE for 5 CP
DEE sends 6 TP to QP for 5 CP
MOT sends 6 TP to QP for 5 CP
Some good discussion here - the 40 we get at the season start always seemed too many as almost nobody needs it at that point. So some can be sold cheaply.
But then the retiring and apprentice buying takes place and so we need another 10TPs for him. Then we have the age 0 auction and bang - we need more so the price goes up.
I think it is fine as it is - market value will dictate the price as it should be.
Are the groups viewable anywhere yet ?
I am dead against the weekly review. Makes my blood boil.
Wait.... I've just been told DUM won both games today.
Love the review - we should make it a weekly feature! YAY!!!
Wait.... ANN and DEE next week.
No need for every week.
Found the reviews absolutely hilarious and a joy to read. Happy to give league reviews the full participation bonus (unless told otherwise by the big boss) for any given week, as they take more work and writing than any other equivalent way of earning the full 50k. They also add a lot to the discourse in the league, imo. I can't remember if it was discussed when the decision was made to get rid of league reviews, but perhaps having the reviews as optional and simply counting towards participation bonuses is a way to satisfy both sides from the review wars of season 57.
....and the Table’s Tighter Than Your Nan’s Biscuit Tin
The dust has settled, the bruises iced, and the goalkeepers are still asking: What just happened? Matchday 24 was a whirlwind, and with the updated table now looking like a Jenga tower on a wobbly table, here’s your fully unserious, mildly coherent round-up of the weekend’s mayhem.
Jamie Hamilton opened the scoring with a thumping volley, and then Dumbarton scored three more in a three-minutestretch, leaving Albion Rovers with the collective look of people who’d just opened a surprise tax bill. Rodriguez, Chapman and Bowen all got on the scoresheet. Defending? Albion left it in the team bus.
🪙 Table Says: Dumbarton leapfrog into 10th, while Albion drop like a phone down a drain — now 7th, with 45 goals conceded. Yikes.
Ian McCall finally remembered he was a footballer and not a pub quiz answer, banging in a first-half hat-trick. Dom Docherty added a cherry-on-top fourth in stoppage time, while Elgin just curled up and hoped no one was watching. Plot twist: we all were.
🪙 Table Says: Clyde clamber out of the bottom two (just), now 15th on 12 points. Elgin slip from 3rd to 4th, presumably out of sheer embarrassment.
Lawrence Shankland scored in the second minute, then both teams spent 88 minutes fighting over whose turn it was to be bored. Still, three points is three points — even if the highlights package had to be set to elevator music.
🪙 Table Says: Hearts up to 6th. Annan remain firmly 16th, with more losses than goals (9 goals. 9. In 14 games. Blink twice if you need help).
An absolute thriller. Alabama (yes, the entire state apparently) scored for Arbroath, but Elie Youan struck twice in reply. Then, in the 89th minute, goalkeeper Robbie McCrorie came up for a corner and scored because, why not? Somewhere, Arbroath’s keeper is still processing the trauma.
🪙 Table Says: Arbroath sit 9th, Livi still struggling in 14th but vibing.
Claudio Caniggia, who we can only assume was reanimated for this match, scored inside four minutes. Jim Camperdown scored two more while Nairn’s defence waited for divine intervention. It didn’t arrive.
🪙 Table Says: Dundee climb to 5th and are officially “in the mix.” Nairn still mid-table and mid-crisis.
The battle of the weirdly named. “Wire” and “Norway” (a band? An AI?) helped Stenny go 1-0 up, but Pat Slattery and Adam Lareef turned it around for East Fife — until “Average Joe” and “Jon” reminded us that football is still nonsense.
🪙 Table Says: Both teams firmly stuck in the midfield traffic jam. Beep beep.=
Ferran Torres and Raphinha are either moonlighting from the Premier League or there’s something very dodgy going on in the transfer market. Fraserburgh cruised, while Stranraer stared into the void and saw relegation anxiety.
🪙 Table Says: Fraserburgh move into 2nd, and now officially need to be investigated. Stranraer hang on to 8th like it’s the last lifeboat on the Titanic.
Ray Wylie Hubbard hat-trick. Goals from Howlin Wolf, Townes Van Zandt, Steve Earle, Guy Clark, and Muddy Waters. Was this a football match or a blues revival tour? Hibernian played like they were hearing the music too — possibly through noise-cancelling headphones.
🪙 Table Says: Motherwell (MOT) top the table with 33 points and a +23 goal difference. Hibs, previously 3rd, drop to 3rd with a migraine and a blues record deal.
Pos | Team | Pts | GD | Status |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Motherwell | 33 | +23 | Funkadelic goal monsters |
2 | Fraserburgh | 26 | +15 | La Liga North? |
3 | Hibernian | 26 | +4 | Blues band in disguise |
4 | Elgin City | 25 | +8 | Spanked & slipping |
5 | Dundee FC | 25 | +7 | Climbing with confidence |
16 | Annan Ath | 9 | -25 | In crisis, again |
In a first session where defending was strictly optional and goalkeepers seemed to be on sabbatical, SESL Division One produced more chaos than a cat in a fireworks factory. Let's dive into the highlights, lowlights, and complete absurdities from Matchday 23.
Albion Rovers 5 - 7 Elgin City
This one had more goals than a FIFA glitch. Michael Dangana, clearly auditioning for a Marvel role, scored FOUR times, including one in the 87th minute just to make sure Albion had no hope left. Veajax Xera added two with a name that sounds like a Star Wars bounty hunter. For Rovers, NFL legends Tim Tebow and Deion Sanders apparently laced up boots – someone should probably tell them it’s not the Super Bowl.
Dumbarton 4 - 1 Hearts
Jamie Hamilton clearly didn’t get the memo that you’re supposed to share, scoring a hat-trick and assisting another. Hector Crouch, still not Peter Crouch’s cousin (we checked), added another. Hearts’ only consolation was Alan Rough scoring, which is impressive, considering he retired in the 80s.
Clyde FC 0 - 2 Livingston
Robbie Muirhead was everywhere, scoring twice before halftime. Sepp Kuss – yes, the Tour de France cyclist – came on late to secure the clean sheet, presumably after cycling in from the bench. Clyde, meanwhile, forgot the whole “scoring goals” part of football.
Annan Athletic 0 - 3 Nairn County
Ben Barron bookended this clinical win, with George Robesten and Horace Ormsby chipping in like they're moonlighting from Hogwarts. Annan Athletic were last seen arguing whether their midfielders are legally required to defend.
Arbroath 8 - 2 Stenhousemuir
Cole Palmer dropped a hat-trick in 18 minutes, probably while sipping a latte. Adel Taarabt turned up from a parallel universe and bossed midfield, while Kyle Robinson bagged a brace. Stenny at least found solace in Cameroon and Elm – we assume they’re not countries and trees, respectively.
Dundee FC 4 - 0 Stranraer
Routine as a Tuesday spreadsheet. Javier Artero was everywhere, even showing up in the 76th minute for a cheeky goal. Stranraer barely troubled the scorers, except perhaps to apologize for showing up. Will the Cup final be the same? I want my ticket refunded.
East Fife 1 - 5 Motherwell
Motherwell were playing jazz football – unpredictable, funky, and entirely disrespectful to East Fife’s dignity. Ray Wylie Hubbard and Billy Bland sound like a country duo, but they left East Fife singing the blues.
Fraserburgh 3 - 0 Hibernian
Torres and Olmo made it a Spanish siesta for Fraserburgh, while Hibs' only joy was John Collins getting a nostalgic cameo. Somewhere, the real Hibs were checking for imposters.
LIV sends Marvin Bartley (5/16 MF) to BER for 150k
ALO sends 1 TP to ALB for 85k
The following teams receive Physio Boost through A Stramash FW:
QOS(-80)
The following teams receive Cup Draw Participation through sesl cup groups :
FAL(50) PT(50)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 24:
Livingston - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Raith Rovers - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #3: 1 TP (dWw)
Falkirk - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWW)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation thru June 29th:
ALO(50) ANN(15) ARB(20) DUM(50) DEE(40) EF(50) EDI(35) FAL(20) FRA(10) GM(10) HIB(50) LIV(10) MOT(50) PT(10) PET(25) QP(25) ROS(20) SRA(50)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 23:
Dumbarton - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Motherwell - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
Peterhead - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWw)
Airdrieonians FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Need 2 managers to independently produce Sesl cup draw groups.
The wheel of fortune psychic spinner is ill today.
The psychic spinner didn't see that coming.
First 2 managers to inbox STJ today will get the gig.
Pays 50k a pop.
I just find it interesting that the person that suggesting is the one that's done the most recently re training and trading using tp. Not sure we need to change what isn't broke. Less tp I think will make it even harder to climb out the lower divisions.
We all get 40 TP. I expect most teams will use 20 getting 0/5 players to 0/17 and 20 getting 0/17 players to 1/27 (decent-ish players) where they age to 2/24. Some will be lucky enough to get a good auction buy and have a 1/30 player or two and these will age to 2/27.
But it's the CP used on these age 2 and then age 3 the season after that makes the stars and this CP isn't free.
To me CP will always be more valuable than TP.
Logically TP should be more valuable than CP as its ages slower.
Currently it isn't, so if TP supply was reduced a little, would that push up TP valuation to a more logical level?
So some might say TP market forces suggest TP is under valued (or over supplied)?
Agree they will find there own level
It's not clear what the problem is here....market forces will surely prevail...?
Have you an alternative suggestion Matt to deal with TP valuation?
If TP ought be more valuable than CP, then one consideration is remove TP offering at auctions.
All of a sudden we have a flurry of young trained up players coming to the market. Wonder if this will effect the prices players go for in the next auction. They have been going for good amounts so far this season.
There are 5 age 0/1 players inn the next auction, some manager might hope to pick up a few cheaper players and train them up. IF you have sold one of your trained up players for a good amount they might make an overall profit on the deal.
As the SESL Division 1 rumbles on with all the chaos of a wet ball on a plastic pitch, Stranraer fans have reason to dig out the bunting—or at least stop sighing quite so loudly. Sitting 6th, just a sniff away from the top four, the boys in blue are inching their way up the table like a particularly determined tortoise in studs.
Motherwell cling to the top like a cat up a tree, chased by Hibs with their clinically dull efficiency. But let’s be honest, nobody's writing poetry about their 1-0 away wins. Elgin and Fraserburgh are duking it out with Albion Rovers in what appears to be a contest over who can score the most and defend the least.
Meanwhile, Stranraer gear up to face Dundee in what some are calling “a football match,” and others—a rehearsal for a sleep clinic. Both squads are coming off cup semi-final hangovers, so expect tired legs, hopeful punts, and perhaps the odd mis-kicked corner flag. Morale must be maintained, says Stranraer insider Andrew McCumiskey—possibly while sipping Irn-Bru through gritted teeth.
Down at the bottom, Livingston and Annan are locked in a dramatic race to see who can lose more attractively, while Hearts continue to throw goals at both ends like confetti.
But back to Stranraer. Only eight points off the top and with grit in their socks, the charge is on. Slowly. Like a glacier. But with more heart.
Watch this space, folks. The Blue Wave is gently lapping.
See title
Available for trade: 0/17 (PU9) DF Rab Jones.
Bids around the valuation of last weeks trades of lads ALO PT HIB
Want 1100k + 10 resources (or equivalent value)
I did this a few times for both Steve and Dave in the past seasons.
Huge financial boost for a div.3 team! I would definitely recommend it to any division 3 side that is not aiming for promotion!
The downside is, when you train up goalies, you will concede quite a few extra goals ;) I missed my promo slot and am now 1 season behind on schedule.
After cup exploits today, SRA & DEE meet in next match, and surely EL dictates a load of junk to be fielded in match 23.
Good insight from Steve.
Also got me thinking if any "lassie" named female players in Sesl.
David sent out feelers early May and we quickly came to a deal - 950k and 10 TP for a fully trained MF by MSA.. This ended up being perfect for Alloa. First off a straight 500k profit. Normally training up 0/5 apprentices is detrimental to your team but I was going to play early cross and in a couple of weeks had traded away a 2/19 MF and 4/25 MF for a 2/18 DF, 4/19 WG and 580k.
In early cross the MFs together would have given me 22 DEF and 22 OFF. The WG gives me 37.05 OFF and the DF 10.8 GP, 18 DEF and 3.6 OFF. Alloa is stronger even without the cash.
And the 0/5 MF would be my second strongest MF after match 4. We did have two decent DMs but they played in defence in the 6 man rotation.
As I said to David: "This will be a future blog post.
"But the main benefit is in TPs. As this season is just one to save cash, as I doubt we can get promoted, the plan was to use up 4 extra slots in the Cecil Cup, then 1 TP per match until the penultimate weekend [of the season], saving 2 games in case of injuries or suspensions. By MSA both WGs would be SL 29, my Bosman SL 19 and 2 TP on an apprentice - in that order. Post MSA I'd have 19 games (I always assume no extra cup games) and 17 TP to use on them.
"With your guy I have 10 extra slots to fill. Now the plan is to use TP on the Bosman in league match 1, both WGs from [league] matches 1 to 6 and one WG in league match 7 [with 2 each in the Cecil Cup first round]. Without your player I'd only have WG 29 and WG 22 at this point, and Bosman 18. With your player I have WGs 29 and 29 and Bosman 19 [for actual match 10]
"Your player will get TP from [league] matches 7 to 14 (15 and 16 spare in case of injuries/suspensions) with the other 2 somewhere from [league] matches 1 to 6, probably sooner as he joins the first team after 2 TP applied."
All the Cecil Cup run did was give me one free slot (I've used 13 rather then 14 planned) but Levitt got his 10th TP in league match 12 [match 20] and now I have 4 matches before MSA for my apprentice.
Team | Junk | JvJ |
NAI | 5 | 3 |
ALB | 4 | 1 |
HIB | 4 | 0 |
ARB | 3 | 2 |
DUM | 3 | 1 |
ANN | 2 | 2 |
FRA | 2 | 0 |
EF | 2 | 0 |
MOT | 2 | 0 |
ELG | 2 | 0 |
HEA | 2 | 0 |
SRA | 1 | 1 |
CLY | 1 | 0 |
STE | 1 | 0 |
LIV | 0 | 0 |
DEE | 0 | 0 |
A new sole leader: NAI tops the table.
ALB and HIB stay in reach.
ARB must have felt cheated. They had to face TWO competive 60+ lineups this week (almost unprecedented) - and dropped to #4.
NAI's lead is certainly deserved.
Their match vs DUM was a JvJ classic: 44/39: all Stall from both teams and ZERO shots, let alone goals!
GO NAI - and DUM!
SRA gets their 1st JvJ and leave the bottom 3.
Only LIV and DEE are still waiting for their 1st junk.
Team | AVG |
ARB | 57,2 |
HIB | 57,8 |
DUM | 58,1 |
NAI | 59,1 |
ALB | 59,2 |
ELG | 60,3 |
EF | 60,6 |
HEA | 60,6 |
FRA | 61,5 |
SRA | 61,8 |
MOT | 62,0 |
STE | 62,3 |
CLY | 62,4 |
ANN | 64,3 |
DEE | 65,2 |
LIV | 65,9 |
Not much news here, only HIB closes in on ARB.
Wonder why more teams in Div 3 don't embrace the initiative of training up cheaper costing apprentices and selling for large profit to Div 1.
Same again next season.....
.... unless PT get promoted. Then price goes up a few hundred K!
Not so much brave as probably suicidal. But I needed to replace my column of age 4/25s and even if I got lucky and finished say 3rd or 4th (1st has never been an option) aging would cripple us. Changes had to be before MSA and the 2 lads (Raymond and Steve) did their bit. Now to sit back and see what happens - still got 1 x age 4/25 forward to replace - probably for cash only though as we are SKINT! 😉🤔👍👍
BRE sends Ryan Ferguson (1/17 DF) to HIB for 3 CP, Erich Schaedler (2/20 DF)
Quite brave- and clever- for HIB to bring in 2 fully trained age zero's.
To Raymond (PT) and Steve (ALO) for taking on training a lad for us, and supplying them well before the agreed date. Although the new lads will drop our Top 17 rating - in fact we have dropped into the relegation automatic places, but at least we have brought in some lads we can shape up next season.
We also accepted an offer from John (LIV) as we continue our plans to lower our age overall.
Again, thanks to all 3 lads. 👍👍
The rest of the season should be interesting. 😉😉
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 5 28th June 2025:
COW(34) EDI(34) MOT(34)
LIV sends 5 TP to HIB for Elie Youan (4/25 FW)
ALO sends Dylan Levitt (0/17 MF) to HIB for 950k, 10 TP
PT sends Martin Boyle (0/17 FW) to HIB for 950k, 5 CP, 5 TP
This was a high-scoring round, with the 27 entrants averaging 6.11 and scores ranging from 4 to 8. Seven of the eight results were correctly predcted by over 50% of entrants, the exception being the draw between Kilmarnock and Raith Rovers. Everyone predicted Greenock's home win over St Johnstone.
Three teams scored eight points, so congratulations to Alan at Cowdenbeath, William at Edinburgh and Andrew at Motherwell - 34k each for their clubs.
It's a two horse race as we reach the halfway point. Can anyone close the gap on Cowdenbeath and Motherwell?
We have a gap of four weeks before the next round on July 26th. I'll post the entry form in plenty of time for that.
Prediction | AYR v QOS | KIL v RR | GM v STJ | DUU v SM | COW v RAN | CB v PET | CEL v HAM | DEV v EDI |
Home | 41% | 70% | 0% | 67% | 59% | 15% | 7% | 67% |
Away | 56% | 19% | 100% | 19% | 30% | 74% | 89% | 4% |
Draw | 4% | 11% | 0% | 15% | 11% | 11% | 4% | 30% |
Banker Count | 7% | 4% | 48% | 0% | 11% | 4% | 22% | 4% |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | Round 5 | |||||
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Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 6 | 4 | 8 | 33 | Cowdenbeath | 8 | |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 8 | 32 | Edinburgh | 8 | |
3 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 29 | Motherwell | 8 | |
3 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 29 | Dumbarton | 7 | |
5 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 27 | Dundee | 7 | |
5 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 27 | East Fife | 7 | |
5 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 7 | 27 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | |
8 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 8 | 26 | Elgin City | 7 | |
9 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 25 | Falkirk | 7 | |
9 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 25 | Hibernian | 7 | |
9 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 8 | 7 | 25 | Inverness | 7 | ||
12 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 24 | Queens Park | 7 | ||
12 | Elgin City | 5 | 9 | 3 | 7 | 24 | Ross County | 7 | ||
14 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 7 | 4 | 7 | 23 | Annan | 6 | ||
14 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 23 | Arbroath | 6 | |
16 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 3 | 7 | 22 | Deveronvale | 6 | ||
16 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 22 | Hearts | 6 | |
18 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 21 | Alloa | 5 | ||
18 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 21 | Ayr | 5 | ||
18 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 21 | Cove Rangers | 5 | |
18 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 21 | Livingston | 5 | |
18 | Rangers | 7 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 21 | Nairn | 5 | ||
23 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 19 | St Johnstone | 5 | |
23 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 19 | Stirling | 5 | ||
25 | Arbroath | 6 | 3 | 6 | 15 | Partick Thistle | 4 | |||
25 | St Johnstone | 2 | 6 | 2 | 5 | 15 | Rangers | 4 | ||
27 | Cove Rangers | 3 | 5 | 5 | 13 | Stranraer | 4 | |||
28 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | 3 | 5 | 12 | |||||
29 | Queen of the South | 3 | 5 | 8 | ||||||
30 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 0 | 4 | ||||||
31 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 |
@Colin, see the PET vote - that's our stance as well. It's useful, but not to us.
Enjoyed reading the insights on One Touch Football from ALO MOT et al.
I am sat in the fence on OTF 5 in the bank.
Not convinced OTF benefits much on my Normal team tactics, but happy to hedge my bets on OTF 5 regardless.
Mind made up - no changing it. No u-turn. Here is my answer...
Colin Scott (DUM) | Yes OTF effective, I like it. |
The following teams receive Physio Boost through Johnny Punter :
ARB(-80)
As Bucks Fizz sang - time to make your mind up
Colin Scott (DUM) | Yes OTF effective, I like it. |
Regarding the Poll - I don't think the voting options match the question.
I think OTF is effective but I do not use it as I play EC but by not using OTF, that does not make it ineffective.
So my response to the question does not really match the two options available. I could have selected other - I know.
ALB sends 500k to EDI for Joseph Jacobssen (4/25 MF)
Pro: OTF doesn't suffer from EL or DP. Not sure why I forgot that and that's a major plus.
Only note I would have on your spot on post, Steve, is that I normally would multiply the effects of CP on a player by 2/3, since they typically play 2 out of every 3 matches while OTF adds to your stats 3/3 matches.
If you play Ball Control you need OTF. Most (OK 3) tactics have OFF OTF + DEF OTF adding up to 2. So OTF of 10 gives you 10 OFF and 10 DEF if playing N. With P all 20 goes on OFF and with S it all goes on DEF. With O it's 15 on DEF and nothing on OFF. E and L don't use OTF.
OTF is good for C with 20 on OFF and 15 on DEF. Why don't more teams use C? See my future post as to why you should consider it.
On B it's 20 on OFF and 7.5 on DEF. And then there's the MF bonus which, for OTF of 10 gives you 6.25 of each for every MF you have more than them. Against most E and L teams that's 18.75 for a total of 65 OFF+DEF (this is balanced by GP and DEF being low for DFs compared to N).
But if you don't like B (hard to keep enough high SL players) or E/L (a bit weak defensively it seems) what are the pros and cons for OTF over CP on players?
Pros: 2 CP doesn't cost you an extra slot at 25k. It only costs 6 CP to maintain 10 OTF and can be done in 3 matches. It doesn't age mid-season - if you are not using CP on OTF it's likely you're using it on and age 3 or 4 player. Come mid-season they lose 3 or 4 SL, probably, so you have to add more to get back to the same level. A good Age 3 player will lose 4 or 5 SL at the end of the season making it 8 over all. OTF only loses 6 CP worth.
Cons: Playing N, 2 CP on a DF will give you 1 (or 1.2) GP, 2 DEF and 0.5 (or 0.4) OFF. 2 CP on a MF will give you 1 DEF and 1.5 OFF, on a WG maybe 2.8 OFF and a FW 2 OFF. The FW is the only one that isn't an improvement here but he'll get more shots and a better chance of scoring.
ALB sends 86k to ALO for 1 TP
19 teams have 4 OTF or higher so far,
so plenty teams still like it.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 20:
Hibernian - MVP #4: 1 CP (WdW)
Fraserburgh - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwD)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #4: 1 CP (WWw)
I have just been looking at the latest 'Ask The Managers Vote' re OTF and it would seem that the majority do not favour it unless using BC. Considering the recent discussion relating to Ball Control which was hardly in favour of. the overwhelming concensus appears to be anti OTF and also questionable regarding BC. Taking the feeling about the two subjects together would suggest that some change is called for.....or am i misreading the results ?
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 19:
Hearts - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Queen of the South - MVP #3: 1 TP (wdW)
Raith Rovers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWW)
Stirling - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Cove Rangers - MVP #5: 25k (WWw)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Wdw)
+8 EL for 80k for Jonathon Punter
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Johnny Punter | SW | 3 | 18 | -9 |
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru June 22nd:
ALO(50) ANN(50) ARB(10) COV(10) DEV(10) DUM(50) DEE(50) DUU(10) EF(50) EDI(35) FAL(20) FRA(10) HEA(20) HIB(50) LIV(10) MOT(50) PT(30) PET(25) QOS(10) RR(25) RAN(10) ROS(20) STJ(10) SM(20) STI(15) SRA(50)
There will be an abundance of pies for the travelling support as SRA are riding high and DUM are, well, not. As such, most Dumbartonians are chosing to watch paint dry on a Saturday afternoon than attend the footy. I say footy but... well, there will be plenty of silky soccer on display from the away team who have been showing the diddy teams (DUM included) how it's done.
Our only chance is that SRA are distracted by our lucky mascot, Spotted Jim the pigeon. To be fair, Jim is not having much of a season with just two wins under his wing so far.
It's the Prediction League...
So this must be a reminder!
Dumbarton FC are stumbling into their next league match against Stranraer like a drunk into a kebab shop at 2 a.m.—hopeful, confused, and probably going to regret it. With just one win in their last 10 games (and even that looked like an administrative error), the Sons have been about as sturdy as a flatpack chair assembled blindfolded.
They’ve shipped 25 goals and scored only 11, most of those in one weirdly competent performance against Stenhousemuir, who were presumably distracted by a pigeon on the pitch. Dumbarton’s defence has more holes than a sponge in a gunfight, and their attack wouldn’t scare a toddler in shin pads.
Now they welcome Stranraer, a side surely licking their lips at the chance to face such obliging hosts. If DUM continue this form, SRA could play in slippers and still come away with three points and a souvenir pie.
The following teams receive Cup Draw Participation through SuperStar Draw attendance bonus:
ALO(50) ANN(100) EDI(50) HIB(50) INV(50) MOT(50) SRA(50)
Team | Junk | JvJ |
ARB | 3 | 2 |
NAI | 3 | 2 |
ALB | 3 | 1 |
HIB | 3 | 0 |
FRA | 2 | 0 |
EF | 2 | 0 |
MOT | 2 | 0 |
ANN | 1 | 1 |
ELG | 1 | 0 |
DUM | 1 | 0 |
CLY | 1 | 0 |
STE | 1 | 0 |
HEA | 1 | 0 |
SRA | 0 | 0 |
LIV | 0 | 0 |
DEE | 0 | 0 |
Plenty of junk this week,
Apparently the late rounds of the CECIL Cup show their impact.
The leaders ARB and NAI remain on top, yet ALB and HIB are closing in - all with 3 junks against.
Only 3 teams at the bottom remain "junkless": SRA, LIV and DEE.
Team | AVG |
ARB | 56,3 |
HIB | 58,2 |
HEA | 60,3 |
ALB | 60,8 |
DUM | 60,8 |
NAI | 61,1 |
ELG | 61,5 |
EF | 61,6 |
MOT | 61,8 |
FRA | 61,9 |
CLY | 62,7 |
SRA | 62,7 |
STE | 62,7 |
ANN | 65,3 |
DEE | 65,6 |
LIV | 66,1 |
ARB and HIB remain on top as everybody's darling, but HEA closes in with impressive 56/46% this week.
The bottom 3 "most hated" shuffle a bit around - ANN even plays a JvJ vs (of course) ARB - but they stay in safe distance from the rest.
You might wonder, what ANN/DEE/LIV have done to deserve this?
STJ sends George Reid (4/13 FW) to BER for 100k
We all get 40 TP free and most teams don't need to train up two age 0 and two 1 players. And the market gets flooded with MVPs and auctions.
However we all want more than 40 CP and pre-season they'll cost you 100k each.
Back in the day we only got 35 TP and it's value was about 115k with CP at 80k. Regular trades were 2 TP for 3 CP. Then Commish decided to promote youth players with the 40 TP.
I managed to get the trade altered so 2 CP would get you 3 TP and it hasn't changed that much since.
It's a mystery why TP isn't worth more than CP.
Younger players getting TP lose Skill Level slower - we all know that.
Cheers! We'll await our season.....
Here's the info ...
Can someone remind me how the Superstar upgrade works? Aware it's now done for this season
Great initiative Daniel.
With these 6 players, plus the oldie cash-in for apprentices, could we see TP prices trading higher than CP soon?
CEL & FW Jota have also cashed in ... that concludes SuperStar upgrades for this season!
D1: ARB
D2: RR & CEL
D3: BRE, ROS & PT
I'm delighted my situation is earning some managers nice participation cash (me included).
Right, here it is! I would not be playing this or any other game if all I had to do was stick a team out and hope. I use up ELs to the limit and don't run from them, and play the way I do - BECAUSE I ENJOY IT!
I have won the first division- it was fine but not earth shattering and so I play to earn cash to keep bringing in new (to me at least) and compete.
Very likely I'll lose games as of now and drop down the division, but I have already made plans coming together at MSA to ensure we won't be relegated - even if we did go down everybody knows I'd still be happy.
I don't contribute to the suggestion I'm mad just because I have a high DPs and 4 suspensions - c'est la vie and we get on with it. This weekend Annan and Dundee (for different reasons) will want the points. Likely they'll get them, but I'll not be deliberately playing low SLs and ELs to help out, and never have.
Geez - must have earned the cash by now - ps any offers for a 4,25 FW - p/x a Def would be nice.
I am often blown away by how well this game plays.
The formulas Alan Parr the guys initially put in are invariably correct.
When we tinker with them is when problems normally occur ,and I thing Ball Control was just 1 example of many.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 17:
Motherwell - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (DWw)
Dundee FC - MVP #3: 1 TP (WWw)
What began as a season of unbridled triumph for Hibernian under the charismatic David Blair has mutated into a Shakespearean tragedy. Once perched loftily atop the league, Hibs now lurch forward like a wounded beast, crippled by a perfect storm of injuries, suspensions, and sheer anarchy.
The squad is in tatters. Goalkeeper Phil Slater valiantly mans the posts while Josef Bursik plays like a man possessed, but in front of them lies a defensive apocalypse. Rocky Bushiri languishes in suspension, Peter Marinello and Jerry Milton are doubtful, while Carl Kennedy teeters dangerously on the brink of disciplinary disaster.
Midfield? A wasteland. John Fraser and Ollie Dennis are banned, John Collins clings to form, while Jordan Orbita is being hailed as the lone glimmering emerald in a sea of despair. Up front, Jimmy O’Rourke limps, Christian Doidge groans, and Elie Youan’s fitness resembles a roulette wheel of fate. Meanwhile, suspended Kieron Bowie watches from the stands as his teammates flounder.
Blair now faces a locker room on the edge of mutiny, tabloids (like this one) baying for blood, and supporters oscillating between despair and delirium. This is not merely a slump — this is Easter Road, a full-blown soap opera. Annan and Dundee must be rubbing their hands together in glee.
I had a firend/ex-colleague who worked in a completely chaotic way. No time planning, no prioritisation, usually found chatting by the coffee machine or doing a crossword puzzle in the smoking room. He was a really likeable guy, very sociable and funny. Of course, he had a job to do, and things would eventually catch up with him until there was a CRISIS! And suddenly he would spring into action and work like crazy. This guy just loved a really big mess to sort out, so he deliberately created messes.
I wonder if David's a man who loves a mess to sort out....?
Top 17 is maybe a better guide to squad strength and HIB in top half.
But HIB are leading the way with DP.
More than DOUBLE any other team bar 2 (GM & STJ)
3 out of 4 of your aggressive players were red carded yesterday.
Play aggressive with a key high SL FW maybe in an important game,
but HIB playing very average players as aggressive for minimal SL uplift.
All those 20 and 30 and 40 DP suspensions will catch up with HIB later in season.
HIB having a magnificent season, so the above is only IMHO rather than a criticism.
Guessing the auction has been included but right now we have the worst T11 in the division, so assuming our stay at the top won't be for long.. 😉😉😉
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 4 21st June 2025:
EDI(34) FOR(34) LIV(34)
This was a tough round with an average score just under four, and two "impossible" results - Stenhousemuir's win at Albion Rovers and the draw between Annan and Arbroath. Add to this two more drawn games and it's surprising that three entrants managed as many as six points.
Congratulations to John at Livingston, William at Edinburgh and Willy at Forfar who each earn 34k for their clubs.
Round 5 is next Saturday, 28th June and features the match 19 fixtures from Division 2. The entry form is on the Notebook - twice - please use the one that says "PLEASE USE THIS ONE". There's a clue in the title if you're unsure...
Prediction | ALB v STE | NAI v SRA | LIV v MOT | HEA v HIB | ELG v FRA | DUM v EF | CLY v DEE | ANN v ARB |
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Home | 96% | 73% | 0% | 77% | 38% | 46% | 4% | 15% |
Away | 0% | 15% | 96% | 4% | 38% | 27% | 88% | 85% |
Draw | 4% | 12% | 4% | 19% | 23% | 27% | 8% | 0% |
Banker Count | 38% | 8% | 19% | 15% | 12% | 0% | 4% | 4% |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | Round 4 | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 6 | 4 | 25 | Edinburgh | 6 | |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 24 | Forfar | 6 | |
3 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 23 | Livingston | 6 | |
4 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 22 | Cove | 5 | |
5 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 21 | Queen of the South | 5 | |
6 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 20 | Annan | 4 | |
6 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 20 | Ayr | 4 | |
6 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 20 | Cowdenbeath | 4 | |
6 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 20 | Dumbarton | 4 | |
10 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 6 | 18 | Dundee | 4 | ||
10 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 18 | East Fife | 4 | |
10 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 18 | East Stirlingshire | 4 | |
10 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 8 | 18 | Motherwell | 4 | ||
10 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 18 | Rangers | 4 | |
10 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 18 | Stirling | 4 | |
16 | Elgin City | 5 | 9 | 3 | 17 | Stranraer | 4 | ||
16 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 17 | Alloa | 3 | |
16 | Rangers | 7 | 6 | 4 | 17 | Arbroath | 3 | ||
19 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 7 | 4 | 16 | Elgin | 3 | ||
20 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 15 | Falkirk | 3 | |
20 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 3 | 15 | Hibernian | 3 | ||
22 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 4 | 14 | Inverness | 3 | ||
22 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 14 | Partick Thistle | 3 | |
22 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 5 | 14 | Hearts | 2 | ||
25 | St Johnstone | 2 | 6 | 2 | 10 | Queens Park | 2 | ||
26 | Arbroath | 6 | 3 | 9 | St Johnstone | 2 | |||
27 | Cove Rangers | 3 | 5 | 8 | |||||
27 | Queen of the South | 3 | 5 | 8 | |||||
29 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | 3 | 7 | |||||
30 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 0 | 4 | |||||
31 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 |
Most tactics have MF at 1.25 spread between DEF and OFF but BC has 1.5 (0.75 to each). Increasing the OFF part to 1.25 was way too much. The total for MF contibution to the team was a staggering 2.0. Huge.
Probably 1.0 to OFF would be enough to make BC attractive, but you need the resouces to invest. That would be a total of 1.75 to DEF and OFF. A WG in EC adds 1.75 to OFF but you can only play 2 WGs. In BC you can play 5 MFs. No other position has that much power.
Summer 2013 - was the return of Ball Control as a viable team tactic option.
Ball Control is an openly aggressive tactic that requires a heavy duty midfield, enough DF SL to push the ball into the MF area, and as high an OTF as possible. Even with all that, Ball Control can be awfully wide open at the back. Like Barcelona today, a Ball Control team tries to keep hold of possession, but rather than using clever 1 on 1 skills, they tend to use physical play, and create a Wall of Force across the middle of the field. Also all that MF and DF development doesn’t leave much for FW and GK training and coaching. Ball Control teams could in theory have both a solid defence and a crushing offence, but it seems to require an extra 40+ SL MINIMUM advantage over the opponent to get away with it. The weakness at the back and in goal will likely bring them up short in the final analysis against the best. This is probably the least used tactic of all due to its difficult nature.
SESL season 31 will tweak OFF MF from 0.75 to 1.25 for Ball Control. This brings B closer to P as an attacking option, as P is OFF MF 1 currently. B will be changed to OFF MF 1 to match P at end of S31 review as tweak too strong.
Ball Control DEF OTF is 0.75 and OFF OTF is 2.0 SESL season 36 will be same as season 35 for Ball Control, but the numbers that are on database are noted here to clarify:-
GP-SW | GP-DF | DEF-SW | DEF-DF | DEF-MF | DEF-OTF | OFF-SW | OFF-DF | OFF-MF | OFF-WG | OFF-FW | OFF-OTF |
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0.75 | 0.25 | 1 | 0.5 | 0.75 | 0.75 | 0 | 0.25 | 0.75 | 1.25 | 1 | 2 |
Before I started to use BC, a lot of teams were dropping OTF and just playing EC. Two massive wingers and little or no investment in MF.
I thought I could exploit that with BC and so started to give it a go. My prefered lineup was SW, 2 DF, 5 MF, WG and FW. There is a multiplier for every extra MF you have over the opposition which includes your OTF. Mine was always 10. Against EC, I always had 3 extra MFs.
Not many others were using this tactic at the time for various reason - those reasons are not known to me but I suspect they would include one or more of the following - easier to play EC, no need to invest CP in OTF, not fully understanding how BC works and perhaps a few others.
It was loooong time ago but from memory, I believe Mark (DUU) played BC for a while. Anyway, some discussion was had as to why it was not used and the decision was made to tweak BC to make it more powerful and therefore more viable.
I felt this was a good idea but the tweaks that were made, IMO, made BC too powerful and I said so at the time - even though I was using BC. If I remember correctly, the main tweak was the increase of the mulitiplier used to workout how much extra OFF was created using the combination of extra MFs and OTF.
Even with the new Tactics, not many took up BC, and I found it difficult to maintain a MF of the size required - around 7. It took up a huge amount of CP, 6 for OTF before you add in players. When I was very active on SESL, I just about got by, but when RL got in the way and participation dropped then the ability to buy CP also dropped.
I now find it easier to play EC. Let's face it, playing EC may only fear (other then OLMEC being a dick) is playing against BC and who would do that...
Prime example is our second game from yesterday. Two 4-2-4 teams one EC with wingers the other LB with forwards. We started the game with more than 40 more SL on the pitch but had 1% less shot chance.
I might be missing something but LB just doesn't seem viable. Time for the experiment to end
EDI MF Joseph Jacobssen 4-25 was today added to the Transfer list at his own request....offers of Cash and/or TPs are welcome.
If a tactic is being underused, perhaps the numbers should be tweaked to attract more people to use them. Ideally all available tactics should be viable, but with disadvantages as well as advantages. A bit like a game of rock paper scissors only more complicated.
@Colin/DUM:
When DUM were winning Titles and Cups it was with a very powerful BC set up
Were the BC multipliers changed afterwards?
And why did DUM switch to just another EC squad?
With the current numbers I see BC as a niche tactic only.
Given BC's many issues and flaws, I don't see it as a viable option.
Detour:
I actually like the concept of BC - and would like to use it, if it could provide the numbers.
I have played a couple of EEFL systems before, sometimes widely using BC, but they had better multipliers - and the much more flexible EEFL conditional system could handle some of BC's problems much better.
Like Stephen, I am not enthusing over SESL just because we are top of the division - this us NOT where I wanted to be nor expected, and with low ELs and 4 suspensions we will NOT be there next Saturday evening.
My teams play pretty cagey, avoiding a huge loss and I do play low SL lads to increase their output. Red cards etc are part of the game - I accept all - it's fun!!! I play to win but will send in the reserves to save better lads for an upcoming game (don't we all??) But second division football gives me at least 8-12 different opponents each season..
PS Where did it say gates in the 1st division were 25k above the others? We played home to DUM (and at the time we were 2nd in the division) and the gate was 88k - meaning it would have been 53k outside the top section. 🙁
Roll on next weekend !!
Lacking the option to appreciate David's post by pushing a button..
push push push
I must have played (and reviewed in a games magazine) dozens of games - mainly soccer, but cricket, horse racing, baseball, US football were covered too, both play by mail and online over the past 30 years. Of course none covers every single aspect of the sport inside the game but I have always felt SESL came as close to being a real manager as any. Mind you in real life most managers can't do transfer but deflect to the accountant for "advice".
However there is lots to get on with in SESL that allows you to plot and plan getting through a season - everybody can't win titles and cups and at the start of a season your goal may be to avoid relegation, but we keep coming back..
Mark has run the show since I was in shorts (it seems) and deserves the credit for running a setup that keeps many faithful managers. He just wishes a few more might contribute to the cost he has to make running it. He isn't saying that - I am. 💰💰. Roll on SESL's 100 season..!! 👍👍👍
I had to check Steve...
Sorry, to report that DEV only has one CECIL Cup Final appearance and it was a defeat in Season 38 to... DUM
Now, now Steve. I didn't say everything but it probably was when you weren't around ;-)
As I'm in a good mood, thought (even though it's midseason) I'd wax a bit lyrical about this game, the site, the effort taken to run it, and the other managers.
I'm sure everyone would second my comments by saying this site fulfills a great lustre we have for fantasy sports, and there really aren't other games out there that do it this well. My wife describes this as fake fantasy football, compared with the other 'real' fantasy footballs I play!
To that point, as this feels irreplaceable to all of us, I'd just like to MSA-praise Marc for all of his work and everyone that has taken on any small effort in the prior years.
Am I saying this because I'm top of Div 2? Maybe. But that means when I'm overtaken in future weeks someone else can write on here about what the site means for them.
Do we all remember the couple of seasons that it was way too strong? As a team that has always played EC - we do!
Stating the obvious maybe - but cecil cup games are now Monday & Wednesday.
Cup is a nice break for LIV from a frightful league campaign.
When I was a lad BC lasted a long time......one Million years in fact.....which was about 2 hours long.
DUM winning everything? I think that's when I was away (season 23-32).
Before I came back I noticed everyone was playing BC as it was too O P (as my kids would say). I think the main problem was MF OFF was set at 1.0 and OTF OFF was also very high.
When DUM were winning Titles and Cups it was with a very powerful BC set up, but as Roy is finding, it is very difficult to keep the level of SL needed in the middle of the park for it be effective over several seasons. I would recommend persevering, if you can, as BC can be very rewarding.
I understand Steves difficulties with building a squad good enough to effectively play Ball controll.
I have always felt that the tactic as it was initially written was very viable, but the way we have it in SESL
is just to difficult to master. In fact Steve and I have a long running debate about it.
Keeping 5 decent MFs as well as a GK and a FW (was not able to get enough decent MAs) was my problem, Roy. It worked for a while but two seasons ago the cracks were showing and we couldn't score goals.
I still think you should mark more, however.
I was away last weekend and had poor wifi so stuck my lines in early.
Today was on purpose to do 1 team line at a time, as I was at home to do the 2nd one. I also hold back if I can as I sail close to the wind on suspensions and sometimes injuries. Today I know that 3 lads will miss the next session, so I immediately put them into the 2nd game so they can be suspended and gain ELs ready for their suspension end. I like doing it this way, as the title flag isn't as important as enjoying the game. If I missed the 2nd game due to a malfunction then I miss out on training and probably 3 points, but it's not the end of the world.
I have put in my team line for 5pm today... but appreciate your message all the same.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 16:
East Fife - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Wdw)
Peterhead - MVP #3: 1 TP (WdW)
Queens Park - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (DWw)
Partick Thistle - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Inverness - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Brechin City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
I believe the ability for Div 3 teams to recruit MPP Bosmans is intended to support them in their efforts to rebuild/gain promotion. A Div 1 team paying a small/affordable fee completely negates that.
Bosmans can be traded. Why not offer a division 3 team a trade preseason? I've done it before.
As for numbers and usage - 3 teams have 5 MPPs, Kilmarnock, St Mirren (with 4 DMs) and my Stirling Albion.
My idea which is still a work in progress is to play BC with as many MAs as possible ( I have 5) this was intended to help with goal scoring from midfield. But it'd hard to keep all players with high enough SL to make it work.
Andy & David - only 7 days ago the server was down a few hours.
Running roulette risking not having 2nd match today with a line-up ticked,
that you can tweak if you have time between deadlines.
Brave men?
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 15:
Saint Johnstone - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWd)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Cowdenbeath - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Www)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #3: 1 TP (DWw)
Cove Rangers - MVP #4: 1 CP (Wdw)
I just bought an apprentice and thought I would have option to choose a MA (for added cost)
So multipositional players only via auction, or for some teams in Div 3 when picking a Bosman?
Could we pay a "agents" fee or scouting fee to upgrade one player to MPP at start of each season?
Maybe 300k for an age 1, 200k for age 2, and 100k for age 3+ ?
One other advantage, especially for longball/EC teams,of an MA or UT is that the FW can be developed in MF rather than weakening your FW line. But yes their biggest advantage is shooting strongly from the furthest back they can.
Shooting ability - agreed Andrew. That is the benefit.
So a DM shoots as a MF. Play him in DEF to get the benefit. Played as a MF, no benefit. MA in midfield shoots like a FW but played as a FW - no benefit. Therefore, UT is a defender.
Just my view.
Agree that the positional flexibility is a key benefit of MPPs. I use SDs to easily switch to having 6 defenders when moving to a stall, for example.
But I think the benefit I tend to value more is the shooting boost - having a MF that shoots like a FW or a DF that shoots like a MF. Probably only leads to a couple more goals per season at best, but that's not half bad!
Now, my vaguely related big idea for OLMEC in the 2020s...what about wingbacks? A MPP position that can play WG or DF with no negative effect. I'll admit this would benefit MOT's playstyle greatly, but it would be an interesting twist to bring WGs into the MPP fold that everybody could take advantage of.
Multipositional players in Sesl - are they worth a decent premium?
All but 5 teams in Sesl have them. And those 5 teams going without are all at the strong side of Sesl strength.
I wondered if the options and usefulness of multipositional players is a significant advantage to roster management.
Looks like you forgot a banker in the prediction league. Hope you see this in time!
PT & their young FW with a name that has to take him far (or perhaps only to be replaced by an apparent mediore nobody) Ablade have also cashed in ...
D1: ARB
D2: RR & CEL
D3: BRE, ROS & PT
... interesting stuff, even more is that ANN have not faced it ... yet we have focussed on the CECIL and played junk often. I suppose its not my issue that managers waste a lot of energy ... moreover, I will take it as a complement 😊😊
HIB sends 50k, 4 CP to HEA for 6 TP
In my defence, your honour, I thought East Fife had listed ME twice as a rival, not the other way around.
And East Fife are run by that cracking lad, Paul, who also enjoyed doing divisional reviews.. I'll stop there.. 👍👍
I suppose I should be grateful it's only twice...
I've just noticed that Hibernian's listed rivals are East Fife - twice.
What did Paul do, David?
I'd accept those teams who win the season before are omitted for the next season draw.
(Starting next season) 😏
If my tabulation is correct, this is the 6th season we've had the superstar draw, so it is worth a look at how the random draws have shaken out:
Won 3 times:
ARB, COW, PT
Won 2 times:
AI, FAL, FRA, STE, EST, ELG, RR
Won 1 time:
CEL, BRE, ROS, INV, EDI, SRA, QOS, CB, BER, DEE, EF, SM, ALB
Never won:
ABE, ALO, ANN, AYR, CLY, COV, DEV, DUM, DUU, DFA, FOR, GM, HAM, HEA, HIB, KIL, LIV, MON, MOT, NAI, PET, QP, RAN, STJ, STI
Not too surprising of a distribution for random draws over 6 seasons, but there are some interesting details:
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru June 15th:
AI(10) ALO(25) ANN(10) ARB(20) CLY(10) DEE(35) EF(50) EDI(15) FAL(15) HEA(20) HIB(50) LIV(10) MOT(50) QOS(10) QP(10) RR(20) ROS(45) STJ(10) SM(10) SRA(40)
To all late arrivals - and / or just recently interested:
1st the legend ...
Junk := # junk lineups played against
Junk vs Junk (JvJ, formerly Junk Duel) := # matches with both teams fielding junk
Avg := average TotalSL% played against
The reason for this table came from when I (and e.g. Andrew/MOT) noticed that their respective schedule partner (i.e. the team we shared most weekly opponents with) faced much weaker lineups.
There was some discussion about it, but in the end I wanted to get real numbers: the clever management table.
The term "clever management" is in honor of Dave/HEA, claiming ...
Clever management may see opposition pick a match they can win and play near their top 11.
For example, say a team like HEA happens to be near top of league, then opposition may focus the high skill players on the other match of the same session sometimes.
Given that the "other" team was DEE, you might guess that I did not quite share Dave's view.
Team | Junk | JvJ |
ARB | 2 | 1 |
NAI | 2 | 1 |
HIB | 2 | 0 |
ALB | 2 | 0 |
FRA | 2 | 0 |
ELG | 1 | 0 |
DUM | 1 | 0 |
EF | 1 | 0 |
CLY | 1 | 0 |
STE | 1 | 0 |
MOT | 1 | 0 |
SRA | 0 | 0 |
HEA | 0 | 0 |
LIV | 0 | 0 |
DEE | 0 | 0 |
ANN | 0 | 0 |
A disappointing week for the leaders - they had to face some actual competition, outrageous!
5 teams are still waiting for their 1st junk opposition.
But actually a rather balanced table.
Team | AVG |
ARB | 57,1 |
HIB | 59,8 |
ELG | 60,6 |
DUM | 61,0 |
NAI | 61,6 |
ALB | 61,6 |
FRA | 62,0 |
EF | 62,4 |
SRA | 62,4 |
HEA | 62,6 |
CLY | 62,9 |
STE | 63,0 |
MOT | 63,3 |
LIV | 66,3 |
DEE | 66,4 |
ANN | 67,5 |
Arbroath still manages to be everybody's favourite - with relaxing 57%.
The bottom three, LIV/DEE/ANN seem to be stuck with 66%+. I fail to see a common pattern here.
It's Friday
Tomorrow is Saturday
It's the Prediction League
Work got in the way and I could not make the draw. Interestingly, I have never been present for any of the previous draws and have never had a Superstar. Coincidence...?
James' idea of needing an "academy" to get a superstar is actually quite solid.
Instead of a random roll the superstar would turn into a strategic choice.
And it would still "support" lower div teams since it is much easier to train up rookies in div3 than in div1.
I'd still prefer getting rid of the superstars, but the academy approach seems like a reasonable compromise.
ARB & BRE youngsters MacIntyre & Ramsey upgraded...
D1: ARB
D2: RR & CEL
D3: BRE, ROS & PT
Maybe there could also be a "sponsorship" for a superstar. Develop (have?) 3 (4?) or more Age 0, coached to SL17+, at the end of the season then you can sign a superstar the next, as your academy has shown proficiency and can attract the best. Creates a dilemma that your free 40TP are then tied up, and you will be unlikely to achieve it year after year.
If it is "have" that might stimulate the market for Age 0 players.
Another season and St Mirren academy fails to produce a superstar youngster may be time to get some new coaches in.
The max a player can get is +5 i.e. started as 0, 5 to make a 0,10 ... if a player starts 0,7 then he would get +3 to make a 0,10 ... this based on what the player was acquired at e.g. via auction or buy apprentice etc.
Looking at your squad, the 0,7 DF (Wilson) was 0,5 but has 2 PU ... so I can manually add the +5 still and he would become an instant 0,12 today still with 8 PU possible after seasoning if you wish it
Hope that explains but comment again if needed 👍
I have a 0/7 DF - can he be made to 0/12 just now?
Or does player need to be 0/5 to take advantage of super star bonus?
ROS & RR already taken up on their luck ...youngsters Wright & Easton upgraded :-)
D1: ARB
D2: RR & CEL
D3: BRE, ROS & PT
First & foremost, very sorry to all whom unlike I managed to turn up for the draw on time!!. Few issues tonight in real life that overan & got me side tracked :-(.
However, enough people thankfully hung around and we got the draw completed and actually had the biggest turn out ever! (I even showed my mug as I have a new laptop with a working camera ... again I can only apologise!). For the record, those were Bill (EDI), Andrew (SRA), Dave B (HIB), Steve T (ALO), Andy (MOT) & Josh (INV) ... Mark, you were obviously present at 8 pm so I include you too! ... 50 k for your (lengthy) troubles on the way soon.
Right, the business end so to speak ... the wheel of names spat out the following SuperStar winners...
D1: ARB
D2: RR & CEL
D3: BRE, ROS & PT
Congrats to the winners, Inbox (preferred as I might miss a blog) the upgrade requests to me as & when before mid-season aging. As mentioned any upgrade can be applied to age 0 players already in training (& seasoned if occured).
As per previous ....
Been trying several times and still getting the same...
That is message I am getting for superstar draw.
Maybe kick off time is 9pm UK time?
The whole "Superstar" issue is a big fraud; no logging in possible!
The only way to convince me otherwise is DEE winning the slot.
And I have been told I will be admitted shortly - hello? 3rd time signing in - same message - this happened last time too if I remember. It IS 8pm, isn't it? :-(
Super Star LIVE draw ... Wednesday 18th June 8 pm BST
So for us lads in the Uk do we go online at 8pm or what, please?
My team is forever hopeful of an apprentice boost.
Maybe only the teams that go online could be entered into the draw.. Okay - bad idea..🤫🤫🤫
It's not even on linear tv in Holland. I probably would've been interested in a few games.
As for why America... in the past decade almost all big european clubs chose to do their preseason in the US, mainly for marketing purposes, just like everyone went to china about 10 years ago.
I guess Fifa just capitalized on what was already there ;)
Dull as dishwater so far
Simple answer Fans no clubs yes as it give them more money. If it mattered then why play in America?
Does anyone really care?
One hour ahead of GMT and nine hours ahead of Alaska...
HEA sends 100k to QOS for Pat Bonner (5/13 GK)
Sorry for the delay but been a busy week ...
LIVE DRAW will be held this Wednesday evening at 8 PM (BST) via teams
MEETING LINK: SESL SuperStar Draw | Microsoft Teams | Meet-up-Join
... the incentive to attend the LIVE is draw will be $50 k for your team :-)
Reminder the draw will run & the age 0 player upgrade is as follows (no change from previous seasons) ... again it slants in favour D3>D2>D1 teams based on previous manager comments:
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | |||
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Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | Total |
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 6 | 21 |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 20 |
3 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 6 | 19 |
4 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 6 | 18 |
4 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 6 | 18 |
4 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 8 | 18 |
4 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 6 | 18 |
8 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 5 | 17 |
9 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 7 | 16 |
9 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 6 | 16 |
11 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 4 | 15 |
11 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 5 | 15 |
13 | Elgin City | 5 | 9 | 14 | |
13 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 5 | 14 |
13 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 6 | 14 |
13 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 4 | 14 |
13 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 5 | 14 |
18 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 4 | 13 |
18 | Rangers | 7 | 6 | 13 | |
20 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 7 | 12 | |
20 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | 12 |
20 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 12 | |
23 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 10 | |
24 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 2 | 8 |
24 | St Johnstone | 2 | 6 | 8 | |
26 | Arbroath | 6 | 6 | ||
27 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 0 | 4 | |
27 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | 4 | ||
29 | Queen of the South | 3 | 3 | ||
29 | Cove Rangers | 3 | 3 | ||
31 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 |
Apologies, looks like I gave your pointe to Queen of the South by mistake....will correct....
Hi Paul, looks like you have QP in the weekly score but didn't add ours to the cumulative scores.
Auction 2 is looking like it will be a busy one with 32 teams chasing players.
Could be some high priced paid tonight as teams try to get the player they want.
Did this happen last weekend as planned? If so, do we have the results of it?
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru June 8th:
ALB(10) ALO(25) ANN(10) ARB(20) COW(10) DUM(25) DEE(35) DUU(10) EF(50) EDI(50) FAL(15) HEA(10) HIB(40) LIV(25) MOT(45) PT(30) QP(20) RAN(10) STJ(20) SM(20) STE(50) SRA(50)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru June 1st:
ALO(50) ARB(10) COW(20) DUM(15) DEE(50) DUU(50) EF(50) EDI(20) FAL(20) FRA(15) HEA(10) HIB(50) PT(50) ROS(20) STE(10) SRA(50)
Auction 2
Deadline: Sun, Jun 15: 1930
" 32 teams participating "
The following teams receive Physio Boost through Gary Clark Jr:
MOT(-80)
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 3 14th June 2025:
ELG(100)
There were 26 entries with an average score of 5.34. The real toughie was the draw between Stirling and Falkirk, predicted by only two managers. All but one predicted Cove's home win, with half the entrants choosing this as their banker.
Stenhousemuir were the first team to make an entry. Full marks for promptitude - but unfortunately no marks for prescience. At the other end of the scale, Rob will be delighted to notch up eight points for Ross County - but not as delighted as Jason who scored a maximum nine to earn 100k for Elgin City. Well done sir!
Round four is next Saturday and features the match 15 Division 1 games. The entry form is on the Notebook.
Prediction | ABE v PT | ROS v INV | STI v FAL | QP v DFA | MON v BRE | FOR v ALO | EST v AI | COV v BER |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 31% | 58% | 62% | 77% | 85% | 23% | 42% | 96% |
Away | 62% | 27% | 27% | 23% | 15% | 50% | 46% | 4% |
Draw | 8% | 15% | 12% | 0% | 0% | 27% | 12% | 0% |
Banker Count | 8% | 0% | 0% | 12% | 27% | 4% | 0% | 50% |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | Round 3 | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 6 | 21 | Elgin City | 9 | |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 20 | Ross County | 8 | |
3 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 6 | 19 | Ayr | 7 | |
4 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 6 | 18 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | |
4 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 6 | 18 | Motherwell | 7 | |
4 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 8 | 18 | Annan | 6 | |
7 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 5 | 17 | Cowdenbeath | 6 | |
8 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 7 | 16 | Deveronvale | 6 | |
8 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 6 | 16 | Dundee | 6 | |
10 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 4 | 15 | East Fife | 6 | |
10 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 5 | 15 | Edinburgh | 6 | |
12 | Elgin City | 5 | 9 | 14 | Partick Thistle | 6 | ||
12 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 5 | 14 | Queens Park | 6 | |
12 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 6 | 14 | Rangers | 6 | |
12 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 4 | 14 | St Johnstone | 6 | |
12 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 5 | 14 | Falkirk | 5 | |
17 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 4 | 13 | Hibernian | 5 | |
17 | Rangers | 7 | 6 | 13 | Nairn | 5 | ||
19 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 7 | 12 | Stranraer | 5 | ||
19 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | 12 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | |
19 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 12 | Forfar | 4 | ||
19 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 12 | Hearts | 4 | ||
23 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 10 | Stirling | 4 | ||
24 | Queen of the South | 3 | 6 | 9 | Cove Rangers | 3 | ||
25 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 2 | 8 | Livingston | 2 | |
25 | St Johnstone | 2 | 6 | 8 | Stenhousemuir | 0 | ||
27 | Arbroath | 6 | 6 | |||||
28 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 0 | 4 | ||||
28 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | 4 | |||||
30 | CoverRangers | 3 | 3 | |||||
31 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 |
So....fighting to survive this season, we are now 4th in the league !
Amazing run sofar, but will still be happy to remain in the division. Long way to go.
Thanks to those involved in fixing.
Only INV nmr match 12 I think.
Match 13 is a full house of ticks though.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 13:
Albion Rovers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Elgin City - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Arbroath - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Edinburgh City - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 12:
Dundee FC - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dwW)
Rangers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwW)
Peterhead - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Queen of the South - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Queens Park - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Cove Rangers - MVP #3: 1 TP (WWW)
Thanks Mark. I don't usually leave orders until the day of.
Matches will run 2 hours late today.
The server was offline 12:36 to 3:11 UK time, and thanks to Marc CLY for advising me, and I have just had support restart virtual server for me (I'm out of town so couldn't do it myself from home)
Thanks for your patience guys.
Noted.
Notebook.
Entered.
It's the Prediction League tomorrow
I'm sure Eduard explained the table when he started doing it, but if he could re-post that would be useful. I didn't take too much notice last season as I wasn't in Div.1....it would be nice to understand it before I return to Div 2....
ROS sends 6 CP to COV for 7 TP
COV sends 6 TP to COW for 4 CP
MOT sends 3 TP to COW for 2 CP
I am on your side here Dave, just as well Steve came along and explained it all so concisely.. Good one, Steve, I think.. :-)
I would hazard a guess an junk duel based on the fact that the top two teams have JD=1, they faced each other and Eduard actually says "junk duel".
BICBW
The following teams receive retire for apprentices through players not retired last weekend:
AYR(-206) CEL(-184)
What does JD stand for?
A sentence of explanation would be good, as given the lack of blog response I can't be only one no idea what these clever junk tables mean exactly?
Team | Junk | JDs | AVG |
ARB | 2 | 1 | 54,5 |
NAI | 2 | 1 | 61,3 |
HIB | 2 | 0 | 58,8 |
EF | 1 | 0 | 58,8 |
ELG | 1 | 0 | 61,0 |
STE | 1 | 0 | 61,3 |
DUM | 1 | 0 | 61,5 |
FRA | 1 | 0 | 63,3 |
HEA | 0 | 0 | 62,5 |
SRA | 0 | 0 | 63,0 |
MOT | 0 | 0 | 64,7 |
ALB | 0 | 0 | 64,8 |
CLY | 0 | 0 | 65,8 |
LIV | 0 | 0 | 68,0 |
DEE | 0 | 0 | 68,8 |
ANN | 0 | 0 | 68,8 |
Week 3 - and finally our 1st junk duel: ARB vs NAI.
Admittedly, some other matches came quite close, but only this 54/44% match with star keepers of 10/17 SL did make the cut.
Those teams are well deserved at the top of the table.
NAI though does occassionally face competitive lineups, with an average of 61.3%.
ARB continues to be handled carefully: 54.5% after 6 matches is impressive.
Down there DEE and ANN now share the last place, at 0/0 (of course) and 68.8%.
Family tensions in Fitzgerald household today after cup match 11
Requesting a physio boost for Gary Clark Jr
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 11:
Stranraer - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Hibernian - MVP #3: 1 TP (DWW)
PET sends 275k to MOT for Joss Naylor (6/20 FW)
PET sends 500k to STE for 5 TP
Feels likes months ago since we last had a player auction 🤗
The following teams receive retire for apprentices through 5/13 WG not retired:
AI(-156)
Tried to retire Gallagher at AI but he's SL13 so can't retire him. We'll need the money i received for him taken from our account please.
Raith Rovers were pleased to welcome young winger Aidan Connolly to the club in exchange for some old duffers and some cash at the weekend. However he unfortunately shared a name with aging midfielder Aidan Connolly, as such as part of his contract signing he was forced to change his name to Dylan Easton, his parents weren't entirely happy but the big bucks and new car helped them get over it.
This of course led me down the rabbit hole to see if it had ever happened in real life. And of course it has. So maybe he could have kept his name, other than the utter confusion it was causing me!
There's Only Two, Sergei Ovchinnikov (s), Harry Dunn (s), Tal Ben Haim (s), Shlomi Azulay (s), Alex Young (s)
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jul/19/the-knowledge-footballers-same-name-club
#managerincompetence.
Remember to retire your players today.
I've just done mine.
The following teams receive retire for apprentices through :
AI(401) ALB(200) ANN(166) AYR(206) CEL(184) CLY(395) COW(292) DEV(171) DUU(136) EF(250) ELG(390) FAL(508) FOR(230) HAM(324) HEA(206) HIB(446) INV(122) KIL(75) NAI(134) PT(192) QOS(162) QP(136) RR(247) RAN(283) ROS(368) SRA(276)
DEV sends 85k to ALO for 1 TP
SM sends 1 CP to HAM for Dujon Sterling (5/13 DM)
I meant, Drew. Just a typo.
Thanks
Reminds me of the olde classic........."Brilliant game, Ref. Too bad you didn't see it..."
Thanks Andrew, DUM are still under the radar.
......after 6 matches, out of 16 Div One Teams only 4 have a positive GD?!?
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 2 7th June 2025:
COW(50) FAL(50)
An easier round (though I found it more difficult) with an average score of exactly 6. Only the draw between St.Mirren and Celtic was particularly elusive and the easiest to predict was St Johnstone's home win over Clydebank - though the STJ manager managed to get this one wrong.
Cowdenbeath, setting a storming pace, and Falkirk each managed eight points so it's congratulations and 50k each to Alan and Andy.
The next round is next Saturday and it features the Division 3, match 12 fixtures. The entry form is on the Notebook.
Prediction | AYR v HAM | PET v EDI | RAN v DEV | SM v CEL | STJ v CB | RR v COW | QOS v DUU | KIL v GM |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 26% | 57% | 30% | 61% | 91% | 74% | 70% | 83% |
Away | 61% | 35% | 57% | 35% | 0% | 9% | 13% | 9% |
Draw | 13% | 9% | 13% | 4% | 9% | 17% | 17% | 9% |
Banker Count |
9% | 0% | 4% | 0% | 57% | 13% | 4% | 13% |
D1 6 | D2 9 | ||||||
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Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | Total | Round 2 | ||
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 15 | Team | Points | |
2 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 13 | Cowdenbeath | 8 | |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 13 | Falkirk | 8 | |
4 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 12 | Annan | 7 | |
4 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 12 | Forfar | 7 | |
4 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 12 | Inverness | 7 | |
4 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 12 | Motherwell | 7 | |
4 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 12 | Queens Park | 7 | |
9 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 11 | Arbroath | 6 | |
10 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 10 | Deveronvale | 6 | |
10 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 10 | Dumbarton | 6 | |
10 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 10 | Dundee | 6 | |
10 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 10 | Hearts | 6 | |
10 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 10 | Hibernian | 6 | |
15 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 9 | Ross County | 6 | |
15 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 9 | Stirling | 6 | |
15 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 9 | Ayr | 5 | |
15 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 9 | Stranraer | 5 | |
19 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 8 | East Fife | 4 | |
20 | Rangers | 7 | 7 | Edinburgh | 4 | ||
21 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | Nairn | 4 | |
21 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 6 | Livingston | 3 | |
21 | Arbroath | 6 | 6 | Partick Thistle | 3 | ||
24 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 5 | St Johnstone | 2 | ||
24 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | ||||
26 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 4 | ||||
27 | Queen of the South | 3 | 3 | ||||
28 | St Johnstone | 2 | 2 | ||||
29 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 |
Remember to retire your oldies people.
STI sends 350k, Jim Bowan (5/11 DF) to RAN for Terry Hurlock (1/14 DF)
BRE sends Gordon Ramsay (6/8 SD), Borja Iglesias (6/8 FW) to RAN for 125k
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 10:
Celtic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Kilmarnock - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Dunfermline Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Dww)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Not bad Andrew.
I smirked.
And I better "smirk" while I'm allowed to in this country, as they have banned smacking and smuggling.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 9:
Raith Rovers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Wdw)
Aberdeen - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Partick Thistle - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Cove Rangers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wwW)
I've got a Scottish Sheepdog. Highly intelligent and loves watching the national football team on TV. If they lose he just stays in the corner of his kennel howling all night, if they draw he just sleeps quietly. I have no idea what he does when they win as he is only 6 years old.
Steve Clarke not gonna last much longer as Scotland manager.
Slicker guy is 3rd choice GK at Ipswich who hasn't played a competitive match in 2 years. He sold 2 goals at least. Maybe all 3 he at fault last need vs Iceland.
Grant Hanley plays in 3rd tier in England but gets yet another start for his country.
Painfully slow to get subs on.
Baffling again from Steve Clarke.
RAN sends 50k to MOT for Luis Rojas (4/4 DF)
BRE sends 60k to GM for Ben Den (5/12 GK)
FAL sends 55k to FRA for Hunter Freston (5/7 DF)
It's tomorrow
It clearly states that ELG are number 1 thanks to SRA's 39% lineup. It's how many junk lineups they've faced and the average line-up percentage.
So in table below it is ELG who played against a "junk lineup"?
So table suggests ELG were lucky to play a weak opponent last week?
Remind me what "JD" means on table?
As expectable, week #2 shows up with the 1st junk lineups - 6 of them.
Still, nothing too remarkable yet.
Team | Junk | JDs | AVG |
ELG | 1 | 0 | 57,8 |
EF | 1 | 0 | 58,3 |
HIB | 1 | 0 | 60,8 |
DUM | 1 | 0 | 61,3 |
FRA | 1 | 0 | 62,5 |
NAI | 1 | 0 | 64,8 |
ARB | 0 | 0 | 59,0 |
SRA | 0 | 0 | 64,0 |
CLY | 0 | 0 | 64,5 |
HEA | 0 | 0 | 65,3 |
STE | 0 | 0 | 66,0 |
ALB | 0 | 0 | 66,5 |
LIV | 0 | 0 | 66,5 |
MOT | 0 | 0 | 66,8 |
DEE | 0 | 0 | 70,5 |
ANN | 0 | 0 | 70,8 |
ELG takes an unlikely early #1 spot, mainly thanks to SRA's impressive 39% lineup.
At the end DEE and ANN continue enjoying 70%+ averages.
yes Yes...i'm sure that the DIVISION 1 is truly wonderful....
but there are 32 managers in Division TWO and THREE that have opinions too ??
remember us ??
Russell Martin is a proven under-achiever.
Baffling appointment.
He'd struggle to get the Sesl RAN job.
Not really set the world alight as a manager 252 games 99 wins with a +5 GD. Rangers will be playing some exciting football with him in charge. I think not.
Is he really the best they can do?
Obviously didn't get my application form in the post - probably as I put a 2nd class stamp on the envelope - just to make the Ibrox hierarchy feel at ease - they've been serving up 2nd class results for a few years now.
Bill Ramsay for the top job? Interesting but then he'd need to quit SESL and give up his lucrative manager's salary. Better staying where he is and concentrate on taking HIS Rangers back to the top flight...🤔🤔
Russell Martin insists he knows "what this club demands" after signing a three-year contract to become Rangers' new head coach at the start of a fresh era at Ibrox.
The former Southampton and Swansea City boss emerged as the leading candidate from a recruitment process that reportedly also included former Real Madrid assistant Davide Ancelotti and former Rangers manager Bill Ramsay.
Gents ... fear not, 6 lucky mangers will again thank their lucky stars and reap the rewards of an upgrade this season! :-)
Will send out a proper blog again with all the details shortly, but likley it will run a week this Sunday (evening UK time) ... as usual the winners can back apply the upgrade to any age 0 already bought/won at auction & in training already.
The wheel of names is being readied as we speak ....
The ups and downs of the Cup.
I seriously hope that this inovation continues.
Not just because i was lucky enough to win one last season but i truly believe that it really adds a certain amount of 'Realistism' to SESL in regard to the potential to the occasional apprentice who improves beyond the average.
Non-footy fact of the day…..because its quiet….
Did you know that Lord Nelson was only 5ft tall but on Nelson's Column he's 15ft tall.
That's a Horatio of 3 to 1.
I gotta say dude.....your name is not the easiest name to spell.
But it was worth the effort re your comment...CLASSIC lol
Keep em coming Andrew.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 8:
Hibernian - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
LIV stand with Alan & Matt at this difficult time.
#PrayForYouth
I managed a smirk Andrew.
😏
Did you know that Lord Nelson was only 5ft tall but on Nelson's Column he's 15ft tall.
That's a Horatio of 3 to 1.
Hope so as could do with one to help me along
Is this a thing this season?
Click on NOTEBOOK button near top right corner of this page for all the details on retiring your players for money towards apprentices.
Basically list your players being retired before kick off this Saturday on Notebook,
and then go ahead and retire those players yourself after match 10 this weekend.
The following teams receive team sponsor admin through :
DUU(100) PT(100) STE(100)
The following teams receive Team Sponsor Bid through :
ABE(-75) ALO(-41) ANN(-101) ARB(-55) BRE(-41) COV(-76) COW(-22) DEV(-136) DEE(-151) DUU(-136) DFA(-75) EF(-55) EST(-100) ELG(-154) FAL(-1) GM(-1) HEA(-113) HIB(-1) INV(-51) KIL(-76) LIV(-54) MOT(-101) NAI(-55) PT(-56) QOS(-75) RAN(-46) ROS(-51) STJ(-75) STE(-101) STI(-1)
Thanks to Raymond, Ricky & Mark B for collating all the sponsor bids.
My fault was not giving clear rules on tied bids, so apologies to the 3 guys.
I agree with Colin and Paul tied bids ought pay the full amount, so Div 2 lot 5 QOS & STJ pay higher 75k amount, and Div 3 lot 2 has DFA & ABE paying higher 75k amount too. As a result, FAL claim lot 3 for 1k as noted by Mark B on follow up blog.
.....even the Anti-depressant pharmaceutical company wasn't interested in the Blues........
Sorry, just thought I was following Mark and his results with this. TBC I guess?
Not a major issue but if two teams bid 75k then they should both win the lot for 75k - IMO
And at 2k per blog we will look forward to many of them - you will earn your sponsorship.. :-)
Only kidding - should raise the 100k in participation fees inside 4 weeks max - 2 if you put 2 full journals and around 3 blogs per week...
Well bad luck guys Albion won or lost the sponsorship auction so guess your going to have to deal with my blog posts until I hit 100k again.
Sorry, formatting didnt copy over
See below for Division 2 sponsor results.
Please check for errors.
Lot | Sponsor | AYR | CEL | CB | COW | DEV | DUU | EDI | GM | HAM | KIL | PET | QOS | RR | RAN | STJ | SM | Winner | Amount |
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 88 | 242 | 135 | DEV | 136 | |||||||||||||
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 88 | 242 | 202 | 42 | 135 | 75 | DUU | 136 | ||||||||||
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 45 | 37 | 55 | RAN | 46 | |||||||||||||
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 135 | 55 | 75 | KIL | 76 | |||||||||||||
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 45 | 155 | 163 | 31 | 50 | 95 | 75 | 55 | 75 | QOS, STJ | 51 | |||||||
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 50 | 55 | 75 | GM | 1 | |||||||||||||
7 | Have >=3 age 0 SL10+ last day season | 43 | 50 | 75 | |||||||||||||||
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 102 | 88 | 50 | 55 | ||||||||||||||
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | ||||||||||||||||||
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | 28 | 102 | 89 | 21 | 50 | 26 | 35 | 75 | COW | 22 | ||||||||
Earn 100k in Participation Bonus |
Lot | Sponsor | Winner | Amount |
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | DEV | 136 |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | DUU | 136 |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | RAN | 46 |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | KIL | 76 |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | QOS, STJ | 51 |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | GM | 1 |
7 | Have >=3 age 0 SL10+ last day season | ||
8 | Team DP <= 200 | ||
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | ||
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | COW | 22 |
Earn 100k in Participation Bonus |
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9 Teams bid, 8 of which won something
Bank balance didn’t limit any bids.
Lot 7, 8 & 9 go begging
Earn 100k in participation bonus default sponsor goes to AYR, CEL, CB, EDI, HAM, PET, RR, SM
Inthat case then I think this would mean
Lot 2 DFA & ABE for 67k
Lot 3 FAL 1k
No other changes needed.
Mark, Wiki rules say this....
"If 2 teams winning bids are tied then both team win that sponsor."
Couple of blogs below, 1 with tables showing all bids and winning bids against nearest.
2nd shows table of winners with final winning amount payable.
Couple of things will need checked. In event of tie between DFA and ABE for lot 2 I've awarded to DFA as lowest placed team in the league. Not sure if that was the tie-breaker or not.
Also winning bid would normally be 1 more than next highest bid. Not sure if in event of tie if the tied amount is the one we take into account or next lowest. I've left DFA amount payable as 75 but could be 67 if we ignore tied amount
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COV | 76 | |
2 |
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DFA | 75 | |
3 |
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ABE | 60 | |
4 |
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PT | 56 | |
5 |
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EST | 100 | |
6 |
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ROS | 51 | |
7 |
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INV | 51 | |
8 |
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BRE | 41 | |
9 |
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STI | 1 | |
10 |
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ALO | 41 |
Lot | FAL | INV | EST | STI | BRE | DFA | PT | ROS | COV | ALO | ABE | QP | ||
1 |
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75 | 100 | 75 | ||||||||||
2 |
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75 | 66 | 75 | ||||||||||
3 |
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59 | 75 | |||||||||||
4 |
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66 | 55 | |||||||||||
5 |
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100 | 99 | |||||||||||
6 |
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50 | 55 | |||||||||||
7 |
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128 | 50 | |||||||||||
8 |
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50 | 40 | |||||||||||
9 |
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1 | ||||||||||||
10 |
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50 | 40 |
116 | 475 | 892 | 549 | 476 | 967 | 621 | 671 | 932 | 1373 | 721 | 556 | |||
FAL | INV | EST | STI | BRE | DFA | PT | ROS | COV | ALO | ABE | QP | |||
1 | Team Goals > =60 | 49 | 75 | 100 | 75 | |||||||||
2 | 1 Player 4 MOM | 55 | 75 | 66 | 100 | 50 | 75 | |||||||
3 | Top 6 Finish | 59 | 75 | 100 | 75 | |||||||||
4 | 3 Clean Sheets | 75 | 66 | 55 | 100 | 75 | ||||||||
5 | Unbeaten 3 | 39 | 100 | 75 | 55 | 100 | 99 | 75 | 40 | |||||
6 | Last 16 Cup | 41 | 50 | 66 | 55 | |||||||||
7 | 3 Age 0 SL10+ | 128 | 100 | 26 | 50 | |||||||||
8 | Team DP <=200 | 29 | 25 | 20 | 50 | 66 | 25 | 40 | ||||||
9 | Have 10 OTF | 40 | 1 | 50 | ||||||||||
10 | Team Goals >= 25 | 34 | 50 | 30 | 50 | 66 | 50 | 40 |
Winner in yellow cell is 1k over 2nd top valid bid.
Once a team wins a lot, then all later bids are striked thru.
Please glance over methodology and report any corrections needed.
After 24 hours I shall assume results are final
and suggest winning bid money is deducted.
11 teams win a sponsor lot.
5 teams get default sponsor of do 100k participation and earn another 100k bonus.
lot | win | |
1 | 101 | MOT |
2 | 154 | ELG |
3 | 113 | HEA |
4 | 151 | DEE |
5 | 101 | STE |
6 | 101 | ANN |
7 | 1 | HIB |
8 | 54 | LIV |
9 | 55 | ARB |
10 | 55 | EF&NAI |
There were a healthy 27 entries to get us underway. Elgin City's entry was posted after the deadline and therefore void.
With results of seven homes and one away, it was a little surprising to see a low average score of 4.51. Everyone correctly predicted Motherwell to beat Dumbarton, and that accounted for 59% of the banker choices. At the other end of the scale, the home wins for Albion and Stenhousemuir were the most difficult to predict, with just two managers getting it right in each case.
Two managers managed to start with seven points, so congratulations to Bill at Rangers and Alan at Cowdenbeath, who earn 50k each for their clubs.
Round two is next Saturday (7th June) and the entry form is on the Notebook.
Prediction | ALB v DEE | EF v ARB | FRA v ANN | HIB v CLY | MOT v DUM | SRA v ELG | STE v HEA | NAI v LIV |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 7% | 41% | 85% | 63% | 100% | 70% | 7% | 44% |
Away | 81% | 44% | 11% | 19% | 0% | 26% | 93% | 41% |
Draw | 11% | 15% | 4% | 19% | 0% | 4% | 0% | 15% |
Banker Count | 0% | 4% | 11% | 0% | 59% | 4% | 7% | 15% |
Team | Points |
---|---|
Rangers | 7 |
Cowdembeath | 7 |
East Fife | 6 |
Motherwell | 6 |
Deveronvale | 6 |
Dundee | 6 |
Annan | 6 |
East Stirlingshire | 5 |
Partick Thistle | 5 |
Nairn | 5 |
Inverness | 5 |
Queens Park | 5 |
Elgin City | 5 |
Hibernian | 4 |
Stirling | 4 |
Stranraer | 4 |
Falkirk | 4 |
Ayr | 4 |
Stenhousemuir | 4 |
Dumbarton | 4 |
Ross County | 4 |
Forfar | 4 |
Livingston | 3 |
Queen of the South | 3 |
Hearts | 3 |
Edinburgh | 2 |
Brechin City | 1 |
The following teams receive Prediction League through :
COW(50) RAN(50)
There were a healthy 27 entries to get us underway. Elgin City's entry was posted after the deadline and therefore void.
With results of seven homes and one away, it was a little surprising to see a low average score of 4.51. Everyone correctly predicted Motherwell to beat Dumbarton, and that accounted for 59% of the banker choices. At the other end of the scale, the home wins for Albion and Stenhousemuir were the most difficult to predict, with just two managers getting it right in each case.
Two managers managed to start with seven points, so congratulations to Bill at Rangers and Alan at Cowdenbeath, who earn 50k each for their clubs.
Round two is next Saturday (7th June) and the entry form is on the Notebook.
Prediction | ALB v DEE | EF v ARB | FRA v ANN | HIB v CLY | MOT v DUM | SRA v ELG | STE v HEA | NAI v LIV |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 7% | 41% | 85% | 63% | 100% | 70% | 7% | 44% |
Away | 81% | 44% | 11% | 19% | 0% | 26% | 93% | 41% |
Draw | 11% | 15% | 4% | 19% | 0% | 4% | 0% | 15% |
Banker Count | 0% | 4% | 11% | 0% | 59% | 4% | 7% | 15% |
Team | Points |
---|---|
Rangers | 7 |
Cowdembeath | 7 |
East Fife | 6 |
Motherwell | 6 |
Deveronvale | 6 |
Dundee | 6 |
Annan | 6 |
East Stirlingshire | 5 |
Partick Thistle | 5 |
Nairn | 5 |
Inverness | 5 |
Queens Park | 5 |
Elgin City | 5 |
Hibernian | 4 |
Stirling | 4 |
Stranraer | 4 |
Falkirk | 4 |
Ayr | 4 |
Stenhousemuir | 4 |
Dumbarton | 4 |
Ross County | 4 |
Forfar | 4 |
Livingston | 3 |
Queen of the South | 3 |
Hearts | 3 |
Edinburgh | 2 |
Brechin City | 1 |
Div 1 sponsorships is going to be a fight with 13 teams bidding.
(Don't worry if your bids are sat unread chaps, it's just so I don't miss the sponsor bids amongst all the inbox trade chat.)
1 hour til deadline (same as 3pm kickoff, mainland European timezone I think)
A few votes for HIB in poll noted as "other".
David may enjoy 25k x 30 league game gate receipt bonus and decide Div 2 maybe isn't for him afterall!
4 games in and yes, we look good, well, decent. But this is a marathon, not a sprint, and the schedule of opponents also has to do with first results.
I did think games v Clyde and Arbroath might provide a point, and certainly not 6. What this does is give me a nice buffer for later problems. If I decide to stay in the 1st division then 10th is the lowest I want to be - if it goes pear shaped then I won't be upset. For now, having earned 2 TPs and 50k for MVPs is the good news.
But thanks for pointing out this will be the best we will get..I have a photo right now!! :-)
QP sends Cal Raleigh (5/13 GK) to DUM for 30k, Thomas Bellamy (2/10 DF)
....no mention of HIBs or the mighty ELG.........?
FAL sends 115k to FRA for Alejandro Balde (5/7 DF), Tom Marquand (7/11 FW)
Only 6 teams bidding so far.
FAL, INV, EST, STI, BRE and DFA.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 7:
East Fife - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Elgin City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Edinburgh City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Queen of the South - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwW)
Inverness - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
East Stirlingshire - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 6:
Nairn County - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Deveronvale - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wDw)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Falkirk - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Wdw)
6 in so far, load left to come....?
We've got: GM, DEV, QoS. EDI, RAN, STJ
Dont miss out!
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru May 25th:
ALO(50) ARB(20) DEV(20) EF(20) EDI(25) FAL(25) FRA(10) GM(10) HIB(50) MOT(50) PT(10) QOS(10) ROS(20) STI(15) SRA(50)
Only 6 teams bidding so far.
FAL, INV, EST, STI, BRE and DFA.
PET sends 5 CP, Sam Gormley (3/25 DF) to RAN for John Brown (2/26 SD)
The reminder's in the title....only seven entries so far
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through 29th May ...:
ABE(200) ANN(200) COW(200) DUU(200) HEA(200) INV(200) LIV(200) NAI(200) RR(200)
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row from match 5 | 400k |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 matches from match 5 | 300k |
ANN sends 30k, 8 TP to INV for Hugh Jass (4/26 GK)
Seems a blip on auction offerings. Perhaps edited down to make space?
But if those are the offers, then so be it.
Even if a team has already achieved a sponsor criteria they STILL need to win the sponsor.
So do you bid 200k, 300k, or 350k for a 400k win?
While others win a lower value sponsor for 1k or 50k, but make a far higher profit then those bidding high ?
That's the gamble.
FRA sends 700k, 6 TP, Inaki Pena (6/10 GK) to HEA for Michael McIntyre (2/23 GK)
Eduard, with the best T11 and a lot of CP to back that up you can probably win all the 400k offers - well you've made one of them already, and your keeper just needs one more MoM. Top 6 is certain if you don't want to do a Spurs and concentrate on the cups. Maybe 60 goals if the only risky one.
Luckily for the rest of Division One you can only make 5 bids.
> I just need to know if I can safely bid on it.
Definitely and clearly.
The offers are there, e.g. "Unbeaten streak of 3 games", not "Unbeaten streak of 3 league games after match 9".
Bids were already made for those offers - and would have to be reevaluated, for no serious reason.
Maybe next season the offers will be corrected, but at least this season DEE is very unlikely to go for "DP <= 200" again.
In recent seasons "three games unbeaten " and "three clean sheets in a row" have started after the bids but there's no mention of it this time. Alloa *and others) already have 3 games unbeaten. I just need to know if I can safely bid on it.
Also, about 6 or 7 teams are pretty much guaranteed a top 16 Cecil Cup spot, but I can't remember if this was always the case or were just a bit late this season.
Div 1 teams with bids banked:-
ARB HEA HIB LIV SRA
________________________________________
Send up to 5 bids via team inbox please by Sun 1st June, 15:00
to the manager who is doing your division. 10 lots are available to bid on.
PT Raymond Div 1
STE Ricky Div 2
DUU Mark Boland Div 3
(bid money deducted xx/xx/25)
Any team not winning an auction lot will be allocated the back-up default lot for participation bonus.
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 400k | -- -- |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 400k | -- -- |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | -- -- |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 400k |
-- -- |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 300k | -- -- |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | -- -- |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | -- -- |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | -- -- |
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | 200k | -- -- |
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | 200k | -- -- |
Earn 100k in participation bonus to win another 100k sponsor money Div 1: Div 2: Div 3: |
100k | default sponsor for all teams not winning a lot 1-10 |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 5:
Motherwell - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Stranraer - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Dundee FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwW)
Hibernian - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwW)
Failed to shut down the blog page on my phone which causes a double post when opening the tab later. Sorry.
To be fair, ARB only fielded an average of 65.5%. Just saying
Today is the last opportunity for teams that haven't updated their Bios (both to get cash) and team needs for this season. Many teams earned the shekels last week and tomorrow morning will see the last payments made.
Do it today - I get up early so if you think you'll slip it on first thing, you just might miss out...🤔🤔
Easy money - some teams haven't updated for seasons. At 200k per season that's averaging 500k per year. 😉
MOT have no chance.....their only 5 points off the relegation zone.......
EF sends 210k to STI for 2 CP
Poll vote going to form I think.
To be fair, ARB only fielded an average of 65.5%. Just saying
EST sends 3 CP, Ruben Dias (3/26 DF) to RAN for Robin Propper (2/26 DF)
DEE sends 215k to EDI for Peter Shilton (5/16 GK)
won't be seen this season - at least not presented by me.
Anyone interested can still get the tools. So far there didn't seem to be any major demand.
Be seeing you ...
As in real life, there are many kinds of junk, as ...
- any lineup with less than 50% of total SL, simply because you could have done better AND risk a blowout fine
- lineups between 50% and 60%, given certain junk factors (especially passive play and / or weak GK)
- any other lineup, which is obviously junk: given enough suspensions and injuries even a 100% lineup can be complete junk!
Shortly, anything I consider junk enough is considered junk.
Quite likely, almost everybody would consider some lineups junk I wouldn't and vice versa.
Do I care? Not at all.
The 1st week of the clever management ranking is obviously boring:
with a full squad of EL10 players there are rarely reasons to field junk lineups.
Nonetheless the results ...
Jk JDs AVG
ARB 0 0 61,0
EF 0 0 62,5
CLY 0 0 63,5
HIB 0 0 65,0
ELG 0 0 65,5
HEA 0 0 66,5
LIV 0 0 66,5
DUM 0 0 68,0
MOT 0 0 68,5
SRA 0 0 68,5
NAI 0 0 69,5
STE 0 0 69,5
ALB 0 0 71,5
FRA 0 0 72,0
DEE 0 0 75,5
ANN 0 0 78,5
No surprise: no junk in week 1 - even if some lineups came quite close.
Thus no leader in the "classic" ranking yet.
As a new feature I have included the average opponent SL% used, as shown in the match reports.
While this is generally a silly and problematic metric - it's better than anything else readily available.
And already a familiar face up front: last season's everybody's darling ARB, facing a surprising low 61%.
It's quite surprising that any team faces such lineups in week 1, let alone a rather mediocre team facing two of them.
On the other end, ANN and DEE "enjoyed" 75%+ lineups - in both cases even spiced up by huge (and unsustainable) home bonus payments in their away matches.
As a special bonus, the (hard to find) definitions and explanations have been reposted.
So Raymond pulls of a W for the final gameweek of the season.
A tough 3 months coming up with no EPL.
Raymond Cini 11
Alon Atie 10
Paul Cockyne 8.5
David Blair 7.5
Andrew Foss Grant 7.5
Cameron Archibald 7.0
Andrew McCumiskey 6.0
Andy Shaw 4.0
ALB sends 265k to STE for 3 TP
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru May 18th:
ALB(10) ALO(50) ARB(25) CLY(10) DUM(30) DEE(30) EF(10) EDI(25) FOR(10) FRA(10) HIB(50) LIV(30) NAI(10) PT(30) RR(20) STE(10) SRA(20)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru May 11th:
ALO(25) DEE(15) DUU(20) EF(20) EST(15) EDI(10) FRA(30) HEA(30) HIB(45) LIV(20) MOT(25) PT(10) RAN(30) STJ(20) SM(10) STI(20) SRA(35)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru May 4th:
ANN(10) ARB(20) AYR(20) COW(10) DUM(10) DEE(25) EF(40) EDI(40) HEA(10) HIB(50) INV(10) KIL(10) LIV(10) PET(10) QP(10) RR(10) RAN(10) SM(20) STE(40) SRA(10)
DEE sends 170k to ALO for 2 TP
Bournemouth 3-0 Leicester City
Fulham 1-3 Man City
Ipswich Town 1-2 West Ham
Liverpool 3-3 Crystal Palace
Man United 0-3 Aston Villa
Newcastle 4-0 Everton
Nottingham Forest 2-1 Chelsea
Southampton 0-3 Arsenal
Tottenham 0-2 Brighton
Wolves 2-3 Brentford
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 4:
Celtic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Peterhead - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
It will go to 3pm GMT in October when the hour goes back - but a POLL for a permanent 3pm KO time I'm for it!!
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 3:
Deveronvale - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Greenock Morton - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Cove Rangers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Dunfermline Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Campaign for kick off 1 hour early for traditional real life 3pm British football times?
...until the league kicks off.
Why does it seem to take ages between games when you are up for it again. The past couple of seasons I pretty much went through the motions, hardly posting anything until near the end of last season, and welcomed the week between matches. It would often be Friday night or Saturday morning when I put my orders in.
But now orders are in early as I eagerly wait for the next set of results, checking on the site several times a day.
Oh how it drags when you're clock watching.
Keep 'em coming, I at least laugh at them.. 👍👍😂😂
A reminder that we start next Saturday (31st) with Division 1 fixtures. The entry form is on the Notebook.
Rules and schedule are unchanged from last season.
DEE sends 200k to STI for 2 CP
DEE sends 100k to STI for 1 CP
Disgusting act of crime today on the eve of the new season. It was reported that the beloved SRA Chairman accidentally left two new season tickets on the dashboard of his Roller while parked outside Stair Park. Some yobs smashed the window and left two more.
The following teams receive Cup Draw Participation through cecil cup last 32:
BRE(25) PT(25)
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through 22/5/25 :
ALO(200) RAN(200)
Something fishy going on here.
We play AI. Both of us beat the two Queen's teams and we both play Aberdeen and Berwick in the league next. Surely not a coincidence.
Steve,
If you scroll down on the league home page, you can see the draw for the last 32 in grid form now.
Any idea when this will be announced? My tactics this weekend will depend on who we play.
Division One teams have it easy: they can play T11 anyway as it's only their third game but us poor sods in the lower divisions will already have played 4 games and have some knackered players.
I did mine ages ago but didn't post it on here because we were told not to.
Now paid for the 1st instance.
2nd and FINAL payout will be made at this time next Thursday morning (29th) - but assume Wednesday midnight as per Mark's instructions - I might not get to sleep so could be doing this just after the midnight hour... and 200k is not to be sneezed at.
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through 22nd May - bios updates season 59:
ALB(200) ARB(200) AYR(200) BRE(200) CLY(200) DEV(200) DUM(200) DEE(200) DFA(200) EF(200) EDI(200) ELG(200) FAL(200) FOR(200) FRA(200) HAM(200) HIB(200) MOT(200) PT(200) PET(200) QOS(200) QP(200) ROS(200) STJ(200) SM(200) STE(200) STI(200) SRA(200)
Hopefully beat the deadline! :)
Both updated for the new season
done :)
ALO sends Joseph Jacobssen (4/25 MF) to EDI for 500k, Vic Watson (4/19 WG)
Bournemouth 4-2 Leicester City
Fulham 0-3 Man City
Ipswich Town 2-2 West Ham
Liverpool 3-2 Crystal Palace
Man United 1-1 Aston Villa
Newcastle 4-1 Everton
Nottingham Forest 2-3 Chelsea
Southampton 1-3 Arsenal
Tottenham 1-2 Brighton
Wolves 2-2 Brentford
....it has been a seemingly long time. In the days when nobody understood tariffs, Spain had a good power supply, we had Skype, the Mexican Navy was a force to be reckoned with, Palace didn't have a trophy room and the Pope was 20 years older......
Also done. Good season ahead all!
Well. There we are again. A new season ahead of us.
All of us with high hopes and so on. The season update and bio are finished btw.
All the best of luck. And on forehand, Mark and all other stepping up to keep this running. THANKS!
For not wanting to play in the top division - the season starts without you.. it's a long week waiting for divs 2 and 3 to play off their CECIL Cup 1st round ties.
Remember if you want any payment for your bios updates prior to this weekend's auction (mention the new season in ALL of them) then today is your last day 1st payment is tomorrow morning - cut off Wednesday night.
Bournemouth 3-1 Leicester City
Fulham 1-2 Man City
Ipswich Town 2-1 West Ham
Liverpool 3-1 Crystal Palace
Man United 0-8 Aston Villa
Newcastle 1-1 Everton
Nottingham Forest 2-3 Chelsea
Southampton 0-4 Arsenal
Tottenham 0-2 Brighton
Wolves 2-1 Brentford
Bournemouth 3-1 Leicester City
Fulham 1-2 Man City
Ipswich Town 2-1 West Ham
Liverpool 3-1 Crystal Palace
Man United 0-2 Aston Villa
Newcastle 3-0 Everton
Nottingham Forest 2-3 Chelsea
Southampton 1-1 Arsenal
Tottenham 1-1 Brighton
Wolves 2-1 Brentford
Bournemouth 1 - 0 Leicester City
Fulham 0 - 1 Man. City
Ipswich Town 0 - 2 West Ham
Liverpool 3 - 0 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Newcastle 2 - 1 Everton
Nottingham Forest 1 - 3 Chelsea
Southampton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Tottenham 1 - 2 Brighton
Wolves 1 - 1 Brentford
Bournemouth 1 - 0 Leicester City
Fulham 2 - 1 Man. City
Ipswich Town 0 - 2 West Ham
Liverpool 3 - 0 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 4 Aston Villa
Newcastle 2 - 1 Everton
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Chelsea
Southampton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Tottenham 1 - 2 Brighton
Wolves 1 - 1 Brentford
I can see how you look at this from the outside. As a Dutchman and Ajax fan myself it was even more remarkable to see Ajax top of the table.
Ajax had been in a major crisis past 3 seasons, only this season stability has come back a bit at the top. And Farioli, a 36y/o Italian and former Nice coach managed to go above and beyond to get this collection of mediocre players function as a team of worriers. Not once have the fans seen the play we expect from Ajax. Johan Cruijff would have never allowed this, that's for sure. But it is exactly what was needed this season to bring back stability.
PSV Eindhoven, with the typical Ajax coach Peter Bosz as head coach are by far the best playing team in Holland at the moment. Injuries and too much confidence after the winterstop let Ajax take the lead who were 9 points behind at that time, creating a 9 point gap the other way. Undeserved! Crazy!
Head coach Farioli, 9 points clear, 7 games to play, never wanted to mention the title. All he said was 'the goal is qualifying for the Champions League' (P2). And that's exactly what he did. He threw away the 2 games before last with questionable lineups and tactics which gave PSV the opportunity to climb on top again. And now it's sour grapes.
Anyhow, Ajax never should've been in this position to begin with. Absolutely not equipped for this at all. This morning Farioli announced he will leave Ajax effective immediately. Rumour has it Eric ten Hag will take the reigns once more, Hendo will be let go and Dusan Tadic will join.
We'll see what happens, but hopefully the shit show is in the past now.
Last month in the Netherlands Ajax of Amsterday were 9 points ahead with just 7 games to play.
Ajax somehow managed to NOT win the title yesterday.
Remarkable.
Bournemouth 0 - 0 Leicester City
Fulham 1 - 2 Man. City
Ipswich Town 1 - 0 West Ham
Liverpool 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Newcastle 4 - 0 Everton
Nottingham Forest 1 - 2 Chelsea
Southampton 0 - 4 Arsenal
Tottenham 3 - 0 Brighton
Wolves 1 - 1 Brentford
Our league has gotten going just in time to do 1 final predictions before the end of the EPL season.
All ten games will be played similtaneously on Sunday afternoon.
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Leicester City
Fulham 1 - 2 Man. City
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 West Ham
Liverpool 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Newcastle 2 - 0 Everton
Nottingham Forest 1 - 2 Chelsea
Southampton 0 - 2 Arsenal
Tottenham 1 - 2 Brighton
Wolves 1 - 2 Brentford
Just noticed it -like it -reckon our 6th place is about as high as we could expect at any point in the season, and even that will need Olmec liking us. 👍👍
All updated for St Mirren ready for new season.
DEE sends 306k to SM for 3 CP
It's all explained extensively below.
STRG-F 'Clever Management' or 'Junk' should be sufficient.
If nicknames are getting updated can I put in a shout for Nairns to be sorted. The NAI isnt going to catch on, always been The Wee County.
Just noticed it -like it -reckon our 6th place is about as high as we could expect at any point in the season, and even that will need Olmec liking us. 👍👍
I would say my 50% lineups but all passive would count as junk, but teams with large squads could play below 50% but pretty much T17. (In OASL where youth squads must keep 25 players it can be difficult to avoid getting below 50%). Seems to me that top of this table is teams that have been lucky enough to face the most junk teams.
I don't understand what this "junks" means.
Is it when a team plays weak themselves, or when a team plays against a team who plays weak?
What is definition of junk? 40% played? Maybe under 50% played ?
Maybe the basics of this system can be posted at start of season to allow some understanding of what it all means.
PT have moved quickly today to confirm our delight to the league table alphabetical reversal thingy placings.
PT sitting in 4th spot currently may well be as good as it gets this season.
I happened to notice that the current league tables are ordered with the team alphabetically first at the top, and alphabetically last at the bottom. Unsurprising. But the second team alphabetically is placed 15th, the third 14th and so on up the 15th placed team being placed 2nd. Can anyone offer an explanation?
ALO sends Graham Rice (2/19 MF) to QOS for 80k, George Reid (2/18 DF)
We've seen 98 junk lineups during this season - which makes a junk ratio of 20.4%.
Each team should have seen 6.1 junk lineups against them.
This puts everyone between #4 and #14 (8 to 3 junk seen) within random noise territory.
Even #15 and #16 with 2 junks aren't significantly off.
Of course, you wouldn't even expect an even distribution.
If you play against a strong team and expect to lose anyway, there's not much point in not playing junk.
This somewhat shows up in the junk table - more strong teams in the upper, more weak teams in the lower half.
However, it is a very weak correlation.
MOT - who fielded the strongest average lineup by far - ended up playing just 5 junk.
Rebuilding HEA fielded mediocre lineups at best - and played 11 junks.
Interestingly, the strongest correlation by far is between # junk played and luck!
The top 3 of the junk table are exactly the same as in the luck table.
It almost seems that some managers might think that having lucky rolls in SESL suggests some skill involved.
It does not.
Summing up, though, I'm rather content with how this table turned out.
Maybe even presenting this table regularly might have resulted in not always the same teams getting those 3 point gifts.
The especially smelly junk duels showed up at 8.6%.
I'd prefer a lower number, but nothing too suspicious.
We'll see how this will turn out next season.
DEE sends 3 CP to ABE for 5 TP
With the 11th best T11 in the division I think FRA will need to be pleased with a top half finish. Tipping us as favourites is madness I tell Ya.
There is a buzz about the place now season has kicked off.
Steve, could it be it was changed as it was felt Alloa weren't actually stinging anybody these days. Okay, I apologise - totally unfair and tbh I've always known them as the Wasps - Allowegians sounds like an ancient club and too close to Glaswegians. That's a name few outside Scotlands 2nd city would want. 😉😉😉😉
I note that Alloa's nickname is The Allowegians but everywhere I look it seems we are known as The Wasps. Even the team logo would suggest that.
So can we have our nickname changed please.
AI sends 100k to HIB for Nicky Cadden (1/10 MF)
Busy team trading since window was opened.
Most trades at start of a season since records began?
AI sends 100k to LIV for Rob Beckett (1/10 DF)
ALB sends 150k to DFA for Gussie Dey (6/14 MF)
HEA sends 4 CP to ABE for 7 TP
PT sends 5 CP to ABE for 10 TP
Interesting choice? Both teams have scary looking attacks but both have ageing Keepers and little or no defence. Is this the modern trend? Let's see how they get on against the mighty Blues.......I would not be swapping with either given the option. The Jam Tarts however look a far more balanced side.
Both done and updated here at Albion Rovers. Whoevers doing the cup draws can we please rig it so we get to thrash East Stirlingshire, has been far too long since we have at the chance to do this!
If you want to see some serious smacktalk you know what you need to do!
With top 10 finishes in the last 7 seasons in Div 1, FRA must be front runners for the Div 1 title. Alon seems to be on the brink of stardom.
Meanwhile MOT are statically the strongest side in Sesl. But does Andrew focus on the league title, or use his EL mainly in both cup competitions. Dilemma.
Now is the time to do your Bios updates - teams review/preview and personal bios (and team needs).
Remember to quote in each part the new season number - and teams who have already completed theirs (yippee, that's me) need not mention it - Mark is going to do a first payout on them on 21st May (next Wednesday) with a final payout the following Wednesday 28th May. The first one is before auction 1 and the final one is before the sponsors auction - he has planned the dates accordingly.
Now, please note the dates - they are close so don't think you can wait a fortnight before doing them - 28th May is the deadline..💰💰
BRE sends Ewan Loudon (5/20 FW) to AYR for 4 TP
FRA sends Terrassa Martinez (2/26 SW) to DEV for 800k, Gabriel Mendoza (4/21 SW)
16 teams from 32 ready to go with lineups safely in.
Us division 1'ers shall watch on
as you earn gate receipts x 2 🤣
LIV sends 7 CP to RAN for 9 TP
DEE sends 90k to STE for 1 TP
DEE sends 180k to STE for 2 TP
HIB sends 120k to STE for Connor McManus (6/6 FW), Aidan Fitzpatrick (6/9 FW)
When are we likely to receive the 'About & Bio' update payments ?
PT sends John Collins (2/24 MF) to HIB for 5 CP, Russell Latapy (4/25 MF)
I'd vote for Robin Hood max 4000k to stay, and enforce the rule "24 hours to trade away excess bank or resources over 50" (not a direct quote)
Pre season shouldn't open before end of season awards handed out, and then big money teams can buy their CP bundle, or an apprentice, or trade - to bring them within limits.
No teams need hoard cash over 4000k really.
Need give the weaker teams a fighting chance to progress also.
There have been a few calls for scrapping this rule. Personally I'd rather have a Tax man so the cash doesn't just go to teams that don't try that had a bad season.
But there has to be something to stop teams hoarding cash. Because of a couple of agreed trades I can easily finish this season with 5000k, probably more if I sold one of my age 1 wingers. Spend 1500k on pre-season and add another 3500k, and I'll have 7000k at the start of season 61.
FRA sends 300k to COW for Pau Cubarsi (1/12 DF)
Window open for a week or so after the last game of the season. Then closed for pre-season.
That seems the best compromise. Maintain competition integrity but allow some cash income from sales before pre-season. I could have done with that - 20CPs is not good.
....Well David did anyway.
I like your idea - covers end of season panic buying and allows for clubs selling players to get funds in for CPs after the last fixture, plus it allows teams going into Robin Hood territory to get rid of extra cash they sometimes don't realise they've won which puts them over the limit. That cash spend will help 2 clubs at a time.
I like your idea - covers end of season panic buying and allows for clubs selling players to get funds in for CPs after the last fixture, plus it allows teams going into Robin Hood territory to get rid of extra cash they sometimes don't realise they've won which puts them over the limit. That cash spend will help 2 clubs at a time.
Poll vote looks fairly conclusive thus far.
I like to shut the window towards end of season as is currently, but then open up quickly after and before the pre-season closes.
This resolves the issue ABE & RAN have today being unable to buy block of pre season CP. They simply sell a player for the cash they need for CP.
I remember a situation in SFLSL where a team was in the cup final but their big GK was either injured or suspended. So they swapped GKs (and added either cash or a resource or two) with another team that has finished their season.
Of course they won the cup final. I believe that here the teams still have their new GKs.
I don't like the rule in SFLSL but am not saying it should be changed. And I certainly don't think the current trade rule should be changed here.
I have enjoyed reading the comments in the current poll. Some I have found interesting in themselves but others have a simple question - why not?
Well, here is an example of why not (or perhaps why!) but there are a few.
The trade window closes towards the end of the season because some teams will be pushing for something (league title, promotion, aviod relegation or a cup win) while others will have nothing to play for. Without the trade ban a team could trade in a big player or two to get them 'over the line' in whatever endeavour they are trying for.
In SFLSL there is no none trade window and I saw recently a team in a big match had there GK suspended so they just bought in an even better GK. Cleverly, that manager kept the suspended GK and after the match, when the suspension had been spent, he sold the GK to the team from where he had bought the other GK. That team then has GK ready to play in their next game.
If you like that then you know what to do.
Still BRE, DFA, and COV to do theirs... and only tonight to do it. I guess if they don't they won't have a Captain or multiple CPs (but quite a bit of money..💰).
Looks like players that were registered before season 18 (at Deverovale anyway) we're deleted from the system. Deveronvale only have one GK in season 18 in the history. I checked Inverness, my previous club, where I looked for familiar names and there was no one.
I'm pretty sure it used to be an option. I seem to remember my first season at Deveronvale (the first season fully online) that I had a Bosman GK. I think I stopped TPing him at 1/25. I'll see if I can find him in the history.
I was going for a GK bossman (had the name picked and all) but was surprised to see that it is not an option...
Can't think of a good reasoning behind it...
So I'm with Colin here.
Never I have ever noticed that you can't pick a GK. I have never considered it until today and it would have been handy in the current DUM set up but I guess Jean-Marc wasn't out to help GKs.
I was going to do them, but now named and shamed 14th it is. I have no deals pending so it is to my advantage to delay. Unless someone wants to make an offer.
All the best James ;-) (the Colin Scott get out of jail wink)
Calm down.
Quite right James ;-)
I was going to do them, but now named and shamed 14th it is. I have no deals pending so it is to my advantage to delay. Unless someone wants to make an offer.
All the best James ;-) (the Colin Scott get out of jail wink)
I think RAN may have done pre season as has a Bosman player added.
I think it's too early to name and shame
DUM ABE DFA COV RR MON & BRE
8
(At what point do we name and shame?)
38 teams sitting pretty having completed pre season CP purchase and free Bosman player.
Let's get this trade window open soon chaps.
We all jest about game money and not having enough of it to buy CP. This game exists bacause Mark has to fork out REAL cash. So please do as John says and find some odd coins lost behind sofa or rob your Granny. If we all chip in something it will keep this wonderful game alive!
Consider throwing a fiver towards game hosting costs if you are able.
Mark told me tonight just 3 managers had donated so far ahead of new season.
Below a copy paste from main front Web page
Donate towards server costs:-
https://paypal.me/SESL
I'm all for flexibility when it comes to rules, but having previously found myself on the wrong side of one, I'm always cautious about how much we alter the framework of the game. The games has run for over 50 league seasons because it’s great as it is.
Rules can evolve, but changes should apply for next season — not pre / mid-season. For every team that benefits now, there’s another that’s disadvantaged simply for having complied with the rules as they were stated.
As for the Pre-Match Trade, it protects the integrity of the game.
Regarding pre-season resources, I’m happy for teams to buy what they can afford, even if that's five CP. I’m personally not a fan of loans, but I understand others may see it differently.
No need William. I'll help Bill out and send some CP his way once transfer window opens.
It's honourable Bill cares so much about progressing his RAN team, and while I have no idea what RAN spent his bank money on last month of last season, I'm sure he'll have a few players on trade list soon.
I think Bill Ramsey should Quit as he suggested.he might.
Not being cheeky, but can I get a loan for CP? ❤️
Half the teams have completed pre season requests
PRE SEASON PROCESS
open until 14th May 2025
Click on "Transactions" and then button "pre season"
Select your team captain age 5+ (drop down list)
CP purchase (drop down list)
Free bosman player: select position (drop down box),
type in a name,
select a nationality
Click button "Submit preseason"
No trades until Pre season orders are done for all teams
(this season anyway)
See poll vote
Poll vote on front page to see if there is support to keep trade window open all season long.
This would allow any manager to trade their way out of budgeting issues at any point of the season.
In addition, I'll welcome a response if the pre match trade embargo should be lifted also.
Bit more contraversial as a high SL FW may join a team on day of a big match catching opposition by surprise. Not sure how often that would happen, and would that just add to the drama?
20 CP costs 750k pre-season.
20 CP @ 50k is 1000k and only for those teams that don't buy CP pre-season.
I suppose a manager could decide not to buy pre-season CP so that they had extra cash for early trades and auctions, and then buy the 20 CP later, but I'm not sure it's worth losing out on CP slots or the extra cash needed.
A simplistic answer to a problem that doesn't happen every season.
My concern would be such a club would get 20CPs for 1,000k, but the clubs who work their costs out, mine included, have to spend 3,000k to get 50CPs. Push the suggested price to say 1,500k and I'd be more keen on the idea.
But my initial idea to supplement them to 750k is a simple one which does not impinge on league rules about loans as it would be the league loaning, not any club.
But any teams involved may not want to borrow - their choice. This is not a Poll so it's only members opinions, so likely the whole thing will die down when the Cecil Cup starts.. 🤔🤔
Goodness, is the new season not due to start..
Back in the dark ages, the actual logic behind the 20CP/750k minimum was to avoid easily bought championahips:
the fear was that a player would buy about every transfer market player, just to win the championahip once - the minimum allocation was thought as a way to prevent this.
I don't think this made much sense back then. I'm pretty sure it does not make any sense now given SESL's economy.
While I see overly convoluted and manually processed loan mechanics as pointless work, a simple alternative:
Every team - that does not buy a CP allocation in the pre-season - can buy up to 20 CPs and at 50k each, once per season and whenever it likes to.
Minimal manual effort, missing the 750k turns from disaster to nuisance, problem solved.
I agree that we should remove the rule that say you need to have 750k to buy 20cp's, you should be able to spend what you have as that is your budget. I sold a player to get extra cash in and that upset some mangers as the deal was not up to what they thought it should be.
We could open the transfer markets earlier to allow teams to try and raise money to spend in pre-season.
Not happy we loans to teams to allow them to get the cash they require./
I have never liked the minimum CP spend of 20. It is a rule that has put me off SESL in the past. I feel that if you only have 500k, you should be able to buy 500k of CP. To me that is fair. That is still budgeting.
That is my penny worth on the rule.
Regarding my failure to budget last season, I messed up. I thought I had a sponsorship secured that I didn't and I had a stressful few months towards back end of season where i didn't really consider SESL as a priority.
Another excellent point raised. I was going to send a message to Mark, today, explaining I was finished again. I simply don't take this as seriously as others (Any more) although I enjoy it. When a manager resigns, a magic wand often "sorts" teams out in a few sessions. I felt Rangers deserved this.
If I had 20CP, I might reconsider this as I can enjoy the basics of the game over the next few sessions instead of battling to scrape together CPs at hugely inflated prices.
Onky my thoughts and honesty folks.
.....we at SRA are perennially short of cash. In the early days, myself and most of the lads took a job in the local Bakery. We kneaded the dough........
I remember when I restarted in SESL and I was desperately short of CP Dave actually helped me out by selling some to me cheaply. I still remember that random act of kindness.
No such compassion for those messing up this season it seems :)
Easy to trade a player for some CP before first game of season.
Or trade TP away for CP. ABE don't appear to have a wad of youth fighting over 40TP so that seems an easy solution.
RAN could sacrifice a player when trade window opens to get CP. They could have traded towards end of last season. RAN a bit unlucky and got mighty close to 750k. I'll help RAN out by trading him CP at season start next week.
ABE a bit more reckless. Heaven knows why he pays for home bonus for half the season. Several blow out 120k fines doesn't help either.
ABE have plenty TP to trade it would appear based on current roster.
Dozens of smaller clubs in real life survive by selling a good player to league above in Scotland occassionally.
No need for a rule change in Sesl.
Lack of CP can be easily resolved next week.
By allowing massive loans aren't we in danger in this football simulation of actually adding some reality?
Bury, Darlington, Wombles, Halifax, Hereford, Scarborough, Chester in the English league come to mind. Dare we even mention Airdrieonians, Clydebank, Third Lanark (not sure what happened to the other two?), St Bernard's, Gretna, Meadowbank....I am sure there was one more tiny Glasgow team but I can't quite remember their name......started with an R.......
So, YES if you want loans but also add in a bankrupcy rule to get your club's name engraved on a tombstone. STJ would probably do this out of spite just to avoid SRA in the first league game of the season.......
I am against loaning teams cash so they can buy 20 CP but not against letting them buy chunks of 5 CP that they can afford.
Teams that are low in cash are so because of overspending on CP/TP slots or auctions. Bill gives his reasons why Rangers are low, which I accept, but Ross continued to spend maximum home bonus even though his team was in trouble. I knew we would struggle so decided to save cash for this season.
Firstly I'd rather keep the 2 match Saturdays. It's a unique theme of SESL. I get that sometimes players get injured etc in the first match and this can then have knock on effects with subs etc. And that some managers may log in between matches in case they need to make a tweak. but I accept that. I just prefer double match saturday.
With regard to the 750k CP rule - at first I was dead against any change. Managers should be able to budget to finish with 750k. But I have been swayed by Alon's argument - it is a game and that team is starting off the season at a significant financial loss. Let them buy whatever CP they can afford or maybe the loan idea.
I have never liked the minimum CP spend of 20. It is a rule that has put me off SESL in the past. I feel that if you only have 500k, you should be able to buy 500k of CP. To me that is fair. That is still budgeting.
That is my penny worth on the rule.
Regarding my failure to budget last season, I messed up. I thought I had a sponsorship secured that I didn't and I had a stressful few months towards back end of season where i didn't really consider SESL as a priority.
Another excellent point raised. I was going to send a message to Mark, today, explaining I was finished again. I simply don't take this as seriously as others (Any more) although I enjoy it. When a manager resigns, a magic wand often "sorts" teams out in a few sessions. I felt Rangers deserved this.
If I had 20CP, I might reconsider this as I can enjoy the basics of the game over the next few sessions instead of battling to scrape together CPs at hugely inflated prices.
Onky my thoughts and honesty folks.
Rules should be kept under constant review and my view is that, while poor financial management should not be rewarded, neither should managers be penalised too heavily for making a mistake.
So I would agree with David's suggestion of a one-off loan to help these guys - but perhaps thinking of the long-term, we should make the first 20 CPs free for all managers, and perhaps cut the free TPs back from 40 to 20 to keep finaancial balance.
And while we're talking about reviewing rules, isn't about time we did something about the Robin Hood rule? I broke the 4000k threshhold last season when favourable results in the last matches saw me finish unexpectedly in 6th place for a 400k sponsorship payout. If I'd felt I was in the running for that, I would have burnt some cash earlier, of course.
And can we talk about moving away from two matches on Saturdays? Last season, I had a player pick up a small injury in the first match, so that he then started the second match with a negative EL. I wasn't around in the hour availabe to change my lineup so he played the second match and picked up a serious injury which kept him out for half a season. Seems so unnecessary to schedule things in this way.
So Marks reading of the rules is obviously accurate.
However if 2 clubs are left without being allowed to buy resources they will be a disaster for at least 2 seasons and none competitive as well.The managers may even lose interest as they will be managing clubs that start losing every week and they will need to hang around for at least 2 seasons in a no fun environment to get back to playing a game they are competitive in.
We could even end up losing a manager who would otherwise be a long term fixture.
So sure they screwed up. They should have read the rules better and budgeted more wisely.
But in the end of the day we are still plaaying a game and this seems like a really good time to be compationate and bend the rules for them. They are still only going to get to 20cp so its not like we are giving them a free 1st division title. We just need to give them a fighting chance so that the game can be fun for them too.
I know that too -loans against the rules etc.
It is up to managers to watch their balances, I know. Then I thought as time goes by perhaps some rules can do with some re thinking.
But like yourself, I watched my income right through the season, indeed I managed AGAIN to help out less well off teams by going over the limit -damn that Robin Hood.
There won't be support for this - that's okay - not sure I'd want to be looking for an advance myself. Isn't the close season long.... :-))
Seems pretty clear to me from the rules below that a loan is in fact against rules. Budget accordingly or suffer the consequences for me I'm afraid.
Try plan a budget from gate receipts and top up with participation bonuses from blog and journals.
All teams will need at least 750k in bank at end of each season to bulk buy CP for following season. At end of season 45 two teams ended with a bank balance lower than 750k, but soon traded CP in when season got underway. This is most unusual but a reminder on the need for healthy budgeting as part of your good management.
The trade window deliberately does not open until after all pre-season info has been submitted so there is no opportunity to trade your way out of poor budgeting.
To clarify a common question: un-used CP or TP will carry over to new season as normal.
No loans are permitted, as this is not in the spirit of the game.
I am really glad I am creating participating cash for so many people, including myself hopefully. I can't help it if my keyboard has a life of it's own.
So here is something for some of you to ponder - and this after I have spoken to Der Fuhrer err Mark.
Rules say a team should have 750k to be able to buy 20CPs, doesn't say HAS to, just should.
I haven't spoken to the 2 clubs who haven't the minimum cash in the bank, but had an idea.
Could the League advance the balance to these clubs (if they wished it) to get to 750k, and deduct monies from the first few matches played. They may decide to just start the season with no CPs - fair enough!
1 Mark says it is possible - it would come from the set up "bank" - and not from any clubs. That would be the wrong practice.
2 A charge would be laid (suggesting 10%) on the loan, as it isn't something that happens very often and hopefully deter future clubs needing an advance.
3 As any affected club's balance would be reduced to nil until the money was repaid, they could CP players, but would have no cash for extra CP/TP training or going into auctions or buy players for cash.
I am guessing some clubs would say getting to such a low balance at the end of the season is bad accounting, but it IS a game and my ideas above are not doing any affected clubs a favour. Just a suggestion..
Anyway that's it - my participating should be good this week... :-)
Similar to a wand used by Harry Potter?
Similar to a magic sponge, it's D. Blairs latest initiative for a magic qand?
More questions than answers really.
Need a poll vote? Or a Q & A to clarify ? 😏
Had to check the meaning........
"The word "qand" has several meanings depending on the context. It can refer to a village in Iran, rock sugar in Arabic and Persian, or be an abbreviation for "question" or "Q&A" in English. Additionally, "Q" can be used as an abbreviation for "cue" in the context of theatre or as a general hint or prompt."
Have the Caley moves to Iran in post-season?
On the stats page it shows the correct amount for INV - just enough for a fish supper and 2 pints - 51k. Not sure why it differs from the team's actual account, but bet Mark's on to it..
Does seem a blip - but guessing Mark will be on it. Not sure INV will have been keen you spotted his early season "bonus". Wonder if there are any more where the CP purchase has not been taken off - please let it be mine... Darn, nope!!
EDI Bio updates for Season 59 are now Done.
INV's balance happens to be just 2000 too high, 2051 instead of 51 - post CP buy.
Any obvious reasons for this mistake?
You could have stayed silent and probably created hundreds of chances in every game....
If you knew how long it takes to manually add the cash and alter each team/player I'd be pleased if yours was the only mistake - all done this afternoon. And we both might earn from this Blogging.....
My OTF seems to be 107. Perhaps my best chance of surviving in Divsion 1....
Thanks David - good initiative that, like it 👏
That's it lads. All 42 of you who took part have been paid and your player and PU updated. Any queries let me know but right now I am looking to do my pre season...
PS In answer to a previous Blog - YES there will be a Bios update - and the NEW season must be mentioned in all the updates to get a payment..
The following teams receive Player of the Season paym through 3rd May - re POTS:
ABE(50) AI(50) ALB(50) ALO(50) ANN(50) ARB(50) AYR(50) BRE(50) CLY(50) COW(50) DEV(50) DUM(50) DEE(50) DUU(50) DFA(50) EF(50) EST(50) EDI(50) ELG(50) FAL(50) FOR(50) FRA(50) HAM(50) HEA(50) HIB(50) INV(50) KIL(50) LIV(50) MON(50) MOT(50) NAI(50) PT(50) PET(50) QP(50) RR(50) RAN(50) ROS(50) STJ(50) SM(50) STE(50) STI(50) SRA(50)
Awards that get done once pre season starts. They have all been done!!
Manager of the Season
DIV 1 ARB & MOT + 2 OTF
DIV 2 ANN + 2 OTF
DIV 3 DEV + 2 OTF
DIV 1 STJ +2 OTF
DIV 2 AI +2 OTF
DIV 3 EST & BER +2 OTF
Prediction League
1 EF 3 OTF
2 DEE 2 OTF
3 STI 1 OTF
4 EST 2 TPs
5 MOT 1 CP
POTS awards will be done later as they will take a while - likely to do them a division at a time. Cash will come through in 1 go under participation - player awards separate.
Conversation in the local SRA Pub this lunchtime......
".....what do you mean we don't have STJ in the opening game? We always play them. It is a spiritual right of passage that we start off with 3 points against the Saints? What? They got RELEGATED?? They will do anything to avoid the opening day massacre.......cowards."
Are we doing 'About' & 'Bio' updates for our teams this season ?
I will be running the PL again this season, and the first round will be the Division 1 matches on 31st May (Match 6).
I will publish the full schedule later.
It's been a while since my last posting - but the rather silly RH rule has enforced radio silence recently.
More to come soon, but for now the most important thing only.
I will not continue calculating and presenting the Div1 xP and luck tables next season.
It has been fun - and it has cleared some issues I've had with the MSWL RNG - but it just doesn't work with my weekly work schedule.
I probably could do it again "most" weeks - but those tables don't make much sense if you can't provide them all season consistently.
Nonetheless, this does not necessarily mean that we won't see those rankings again next season.
Anybody who shows some interest in providing those tables for his division can get my spreadsheets, a short how to and even furter help if needed. Just send me a mail.
Presenting those numbers does provide a steady and solid income - and at least I would be rather interested in who's just lucky or simply good in all divisions.
P.S.: I will continue with the junk (clever management) tables for Div1. I've grown quite fond of them - and I even think that the black pedagogy involved had some positive effects.
Of course, everyone's free to present their junk tables for other divisions if interested.
The brilliantly named 'Silent Assassin' was fairly decent in regard to the EDI squad this time around, mainly due to the fact that we still have a relatively young roster.
EDI will be in pretty good shape to begin the new Division 2 league campaign and if it all goes pear shaped then it will be down to the manager more than the impact of the 'Silent Assassin'.
He's been round, stripping SL out every player, confidence from every fan and hope from every manager. It's a cheery time of year.
We've now got the (joint) highest Age in Division 1 and the 13th highest T11. Thank you, thank you very much. Work to be done. Back to back Over-achievers awards required if we are going to win this title! haha.
Looking forward to the challenge of building a new team whilst trying not to just drop straight backdown to Div 3.
We will do our best at at least have some cash to spend.
The old firm rivalry re-commences on TV Sunday lunchtime, but could the Sesl Glasgow team managers start a rivalry in Sesl?
Both managers Bill & Bill very quiet with participation.
The following teams receive Robin Hood 4000k maximum through excess goes to bottom 4 teams in Div 3.:
BER(106) COV(106) EF(-250) EST(106) HIB(-177) QP(106)
Almost guaranteed to be starting before the 9th, but I will keep a good eye out for a bargain when the transfer window opens on 15th May.
Hope that the new season will not start to soon away on holiday from the 9th so not going to have too much time to upset anyone with my transfer dealings.
Now updated in the journals. I still can't see where it said outfield player only in the posts about this i read unless there is a later one i didn't see. Anyway updated now.
Something else I've discovered - thanks for that.
Les, no need to come back to me - and then there were only 9 teams in no rush for free SLs and 50k. 🥃👍
Button between "Latest" and "Add a Journal" it offers
"archive".
HAM choose FW Oli Shaw 2/30
The following teams receive Awards through 29th April - Default sponsorship minimum achieved.:
ABE(100) SM(100)
Some Journals have been deleted from before 14/4/25, and I can see Les @ HAM put his lad in, I thought Id have the full length of journals to re-check, seems not.
LES, can you slip me the name of your lad again (Blog will do) - guessing it might have been Hamilton. Either way, you won't lose the SLs or payment - I can see you did Journal on the 12th April. Thanks!!
Dave, think Thursday will be the end of season, after final sponsorships have been paid out.
Stephen, I have PET in, don't worry.
Cameron, EST were informed earlier and his keeper has been swopped.
i will check out everybody's lad before awarding, and just in case a keeper slips me in the Journaks, he won't slip past in the awarding. Worst scenario is I will change any keeper for an outfielder. My rules....😂😂
AYR - a change please or read previous paragraph...
Deadline tomorrow - I have 15 (1st division sides), 11 (2nd) and 12 (3rd) = 38 teams in so far.
Last minute shoppers?
ANN, DUM, HAM, RR, CB, CEL, QOS, GM, COV, BER ????
Some teams are picking GK's for this outfield team player of season initiative.
AYR & EST I've noticed. Maybe others too when just a name is noted without a player position.
Still a day to tweak your POTS lads before deadline.
Don't forget Peterhead, we've put our journal in as well!
When do we think?
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Apr 27th:
ABE(35) AI(15) ALO(30) ARB(15) BRE(15) CLY(25) DFA(15) EF(5) EST(15) FAL(30) FRA(15) HIB(50) LIV(40) MON(15) MOT(50) NAI(40) PT(10) RAN(20) ROS(15) STJ(40) SM(35) STI(40)
There were some revisions made and the final details were in the blog. Just a few minor differences from what you posted:
Gents,
Mark happy to trial (and review next season) a Player of the Season per team and has contributed to most of the points below:
Each manager selects one player – outfield player, no GK - from his team as his Player of the Season just ending.
Player must be aged 2+.
The player will be given a SL+1/+2/+3 bonus at the start of next season (avoids PSA), which will count as part of his PU - but means you save on the CP(s). Amount depends upon the division the team STARTS next season – Div 1/2/3 = SL 1/2/3.
Teams will be given up to 50k at the start of the season, IF they spend at least 50 words explain the reasons for their choice.
Skill level additions will be done manually after the new season opens.
No obligation to take part, but if so, please use JOURNALS & head up your Journal with POTS – closes on 30th APRIL.
It is a trial, off season is on us soon, so why not take part, and do it NOW whilst it is still fresh..??
Who knows, if this takes off then next season we could trial “Youth POTS”
Journal posted by HIB biss.
Monday April 7th, 2025 - 01:46:18 PM GMT
Team Player of the Season
Gents,
I ran some of this past Mark earlier and he suggested putting it out for your perusal..
I suggested each team select their own Player of the Season – to be done before Mark deletes the current season’s figures.
The idea is a manager would select one player, currently aged 2 or 3, who has played in at least 50% of games possible for his team, who has contributed most to his team’s performances throughout the season. (Even in a bad season for some teams someone will have shone out like a beacon.)
There would be criteria for the selection and rewards for making it.
It is a bit of fun – sometimes I feel we get too serious about some issues. And those who don’t fancy the idea just don’t need to take part.
(If enough people want to try it, the plan would be to use Journals or Notebook and NOT Blogs, but this is only an initial feeler so no answers yet, please.)
Appreciate the info, thank you.
where do I post?
Pick a player to be Player of the Season (POTS) from your team. Must be age 2 or higher and not a GK. He will get 2 SL added and 2 PU (as RAN are in Div 2 next season) at the start of next season.
Write 50+ words about why he deserves it and you also earn 50k.
I am thoroughly confused. Took a few weeks respite as season end and I return to read David's post. This must be a new thing? What do I need to do to get this? Cheers folks.
Quote " IF your team is NOT below then sit back, you will be getting the above."
EF is NOT listed, so you ARE down to receive the freebies. Kieran Miller is the lad down to gain ...
See you up there in the new season, Paul. Good luck.
David, East Fife seem to be missing from your list - POTS chosen 18th April
COW mentioned twice - 2SLs if they respond - missed out Ritchie - NAI added their name this evening - 20 to go.
Gents, this is the last mention I will make for some of you to claim 50k plus either 1,2,3 SLs for an outfielder of your choice. The 50k is for you to justify the players name. My decision on the 50k. 27 teams in already - 21 missing out!!
Now IF your team is NOT below then sit back, you will be getting the above.
But QP, COV, MON, BER, and INV all stand to get 3SLs on their lad if they apply
ST, AYR, KIL, GM, QOS, COW, HAM, RR, CB, CEL, and RAN all stand to get 2SLs on their lad
ARB, LIV, DUM, COW, ANN all would get 1SL onto their lad.
WHY would you not want a freebie - these are SLs you don't pay for = CPs you can use on other players. EVERY 3rd division side (starting next season) should be up for it - a no brainer.
That's it - 30th April is the deadline. Good luck.
Some clubs - below - will discover they have been already allocated their 100k default sponsorship payment - wasn't meant to be all done till Thursday but DUM, MOT, ALB, DEV, EST, STI had already qualified for the payment.
Some others WILL get to the minimum participation and they will receive their 100k after the next participation payout.
The following teams receive Awards through 24th April for season's awards.:
ALB(400) ALO(200) ANN(400) AYR(200) CB(100) DEV(600) DUM(100) DEE(200) EST(100) EDI(200) FAL(300) FOR(200) GM(100) HEA(300) KIL(200) MOT(600) NAI(500) ROS(200) SM(400) STE(400) STI(200)
Gents,
Below is the list of teams and their earnings for the various categories. I plan to award the cash shortly after this is posted.
There is still the 100k default sponsorship payments to be paid - this will be done after Thursday - when the last participation awards will be made, and one or 3 clubs are close to getting to the qualifying amount of 100k.
OTF payments plus the POTS payments will be done after the new season opens.
Golden Boot
Golden Gloves
Rating = 75 x (1 - GA/SF) + SF/4 where GA is goals allowed and SF is shots faced
Other Awards (per division)
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Begs the question - which is best?
Winning both cups in a season, or a divisional title?
Both fantastic ofcourse.
DUU's 32 seasons in the first division is incredible achievement.
Mark Boland has also win 4 division 1 title's in a row....
T W I C E
I doubt any team will even dominate Sesl like that again, as always seems a new team name emerging.
DEE have set up a solid squad and won both cups at the expensive of a league table challenge.
RAN under Stewart did same and won at least 1 cup each season between 50-55, but just 1 league title in 13 seasons as RAN boss. A tricky balance.
First of all, you're very welcome, Ross/RH
Roy has found the most interesting tidbits with division 2 stays - staying 8 consecutive seasons in division 2 takes some doing!
I was a bit curious on longest stays in division 1/3 as well, and think I have this right: Note that all of these depend on the records being correct, and I know some of you have expressed doubt about everything being accurate for the oldest seasons. So take all of this with a grain of salt.
DUU's 32 seasons in the first division from season 8 to season 39 is the longest consecutive stretch.
Several sides have stretches in the 20s. DUM reached 23. RAN were there for the first 23 seasons. ABE the first 21. AI would have had 24 if not for a small blip down for one season in season 35. STJ would have reached 21 this season had they not gone down for season 51. I believe HEA have the longest current streak at 16 this coming season. Just have to do it all again to match DUU!
For stays at the bottom division, EST leads the way spending their first 17 seasons in division 3. HUN (now COV) spent their first 12 seasons there. CLY and FRA both had 14 season streaks in division 3. ALO had 11 straight.
ALO might have the record for least time in the first division, at 3 seasons, with two of those coming just recently with Steve's ALO terrorizing MOT with expert marking seasons 56-57.
Thanks for all your admin work with Participation Bonus awards this season Andrew.
I was going to type AFG, but then seems more respectful to use your proper name, rather than abbreviation.
Thanks again AFG.....
ABE need 10k
COV need 45k
PET need 50k
SM need 35k
Generally, blog posts should net you 5-15k each (most will be 10k, but also there have been some cases of 0k when the system is being gamed)
Generally, journals net you 15-25k each
Easiest way to 50k is one good journal and a few blog posts that contribute to the conversation. Or two journals and one blog post. Somewhere around there.
Which team has had the longest consecutive run in Division 2?
At first I thought the first team I checked the history for was the answer as Arbroath had 6 seasons. Then I thought I was onto a winner with Livingston with Adrian Nicholas in charge, but then I found Queen of the South who's first 8 seasons in SESL were in division 2. This was with Kyrre Sveen.
They were joined in season 3 by St Mirren who then also stayed there for 8 seasons under a few different managers, the last 5 under Les Lithgow.
Queens Park matched Livingston's 7 seasons.
Rangers and Falkirk also had 6 seasons and 5 or 6 teams had 5 consecutive seasons in division 2.
Top17 rating stat at start of season rank position v league table finish
So STE were ranked 15th out of 16 teams in Div 1, yet finished season in 5th place in Div 1.
So STE over-achieved by 10 places.
Meanwhile the jokers at STJ started as 5th strongest yet finished 15th in Div 1 league standings.
How STJ havent sacked their manager is frankly a mystery.
Season 58 | |||||
Top17 start rank position v league table finish | |||||
- Division 1 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | Top 17 start | league finish | over / under achiever | ||
15 | Stenhousemuir | 18.1 | 5 | 10 | OVER achiever |
9 | Motherwell | 20.3 | 2 | 7 | |
8 | Fraserburgh | 20.4 | 3 | 5 | |
13 | Dumbarton | 18.9 | 9 | 4 | |
10 | Dundee FC | 20.2 | 7 | 3 | |
12 | Cowdenbeath | 20.1 | 11 | 1 | |
14 | Raith Rovers | 18.6 | 13 | 1 | |
1 | Arbroath | 22.2 | 1 | 0 | |
16 | Celtic | 17.9 | 16 | 0 | |
3 | Hearts | 21.2 | 4 | -1 | |
11 | Hamilton Accies | 20.1 | 12 | -1 | |
6 | Clyde FC | 20.9 | 8 | -2 | |
2 | Livingston | 21.2 | 6 | -4 | |
4 | Stranraer | 21.2 | 10 | -6 | |
7 | Clydebank | 20.8 | 14 | -7 | |
5 | Saint Johnstone | 20.9 | 15 | -10 | under achiever |
- Division 2 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | |||||
7 | Annan Athletic | 19.1 | 1 | 6 | OVER achiever |
8 | Albion Rovers | 18.8 | 3 | 5 | |
16 | Montrose | 17.7 | 11 | 5 | |
11 | Rangers | 18.4 | 8 | 3 | |
4 | Elgin City | 20.1 | 2 | 2 | |
9 | Peterhead | 18.6 | 7 | 2 | |
14 | Aberdeen | 18.2 | 12 | 2 | |
15 | Inverness | 17.7 | 13 | 2 | |
10 | Queen of the South | 18.5 | 9 | 1 | |
5 | Nairn County | 19.8 | 5 | 0 | |
6 | East Fife | 19.3 | 6 | 0 | |
3 | Hibernian | 20.4 | 4 | -1 | |
13 | Airdrieonians FC | 18.2 | 14 | -1 | |
12 | Alloa Athletic | 18.4 | 16 | -4 | |
1 | Greenock Morton | 20.5 | 10 | -9 | |
2 | Brechin City | 20.5 | 15 | -13 | under achiever |
- Division 3 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | Top 17 start | league finish | over / under achiever | ||
14 | Saint Mirren | 17.7 | 3 | 11 | OVER achiever |
13 | Dundee United | 17.8 | 6 | 7 | |
6 | Deveronvale | 18.6 | 1 | 5 | |
8 | Ayr United | 18.5 | 4 | 4 | |
12 | Forfar Athletic | 17.8 | 9 | 3 | |
7 | Kilmarnock | 18.6 | 5 | 2 | |
9 | Partick Thistle | 18.4 | 7 | 2 | |
15 | Queens Park | 17.3 | 13 | 2 | |
16 | East Stirlingshire | 17.1 | 14 | 2 | |
2 | Edinburgh City | 19.4 | 2 | 0 | |
10 | Stirling | 18.2 | 11 | -1 | |
5 | Falkirk | 18.9 | 8 | -3 | |
11 | Berwick | 18.1 | 16 | -5 | |
4 | Ross County | 18.9 | 10 | -6 | |
1 | Dunfermline Athletic | 20.1 | 12 | -11 | |
3 | Cove Rangers | 19.2 | 15 | -12 | under achiever |
Midtable safety in Div 2 is a niche market.
Anyone any ideas what team/manager holds the record for longest stay in the division how long it was for?
Interesting to note that all 4 promotion relegation tussles were won by the team from the lower league.. This means the divisions are all going to look very different next season. Division 2 will actually only have 4 teams that played in it this season, with 6 teams going up and 6 going down.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Apr 20th:
ABE(40) ALB(10) ALO(20) ARB(30) DEV(10) DUM(15) DEE(50) EF(30) EST(20) EDI(35) ELG(15) FAL(10) FRA(50) HEA(10) HIB(30) LIV(20) MOT(45) NAI(20) PT(30) PET(30) ROS(15) STJ(25) STE(45) STI(50)
Note that the below participation date should say April 13th
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Apr 16th:
ABE(50) ALB(15) ALO(50) ARB(10) DEV(25) DUM(25) DEE(50) DUU(15) EF(50) EDI(45) FAL(25) FOR(15) FRA(25) HAM(15) HEA(25) HIB(50) LIV(40) MOT(50) PT(45) ROS(20) STJ(30) STI(50) SRA(40)
Impressive indeed from Eduard, and Cameron in their 3rd year in charge.
Some even done it in 2 years (cough) CLY season 57!
What triple post?? 😉😉😉😉
Sorry about the triple post, I'm on holiday and the WiFi isn't great
Am I right in thinking Eduard won both cups this year with Dundee?
If so this was his 3rd year in charge,. which is also the story with Cameron at Arbroath - 3rd year and wins the Div 1 title!
Gents,
please remember the player you choose fir your player if the Season can NOT be a keeper. Thanks Rob for coming back with another lad, but can EST also change their player.
Remaining teams struggling to find a player to give me 50 words on please note the bonus only lasts till 30th April -it's gone after that - think we are on around 23/24 teams for now. 💰💰💰💰
Div1 Manager of Season poll vote on front page now
all 48 managers can vote til April 28th
Well done Dan as ANN won the Div 2 top manager vote this week.
Could have a poll vote on this next month, but the 8 teams involved in playoffs next season would like the cash, the other 40 manager might feel differently.
If there is a landslide (20+ managers) in favour of change then I am open to change any rules if feasible.
It's obviously coded that play-off gate money isn't awarded, even though it shows on the post-match report but DPs are. The only way of changing this easily is a manual reset by Commish.
Suspensions can be set by Commish as it shows in Parameters that suspensions carry over in SESL. They do not is SFLSL nor OASL. Also Morale is reset to 0.5 for all teams in those leagues but in SESL it's raised to a minimum of 0.5
You also don't get a morale increase for winning or losing. East Fife's was 0.64 before their game and it still is.
I personally think gate reciepts should be accured for playoffs. DPs do therefore it should be balanced (in my opinion)
Suppose 4th team in Div 2 didn't get any prize money for 4th, so 5th place team ought not bank another 75k gate receipts and potentially a free CP or TP slot worth another 25k each from an extra match.
No team regardless of position gets prize money. 4th team gets automatic promotion to the big league, 5th / 6th team get another chance at glory. The suggestion cant actually be that a team would engineer bottling a top 4 finish in order to get another gate receipt by entering the play offs?
The rules have been set in stone for ages about playoff games not awarding gate monies
Rules change fairly frequently in SESL - player of the season a new addition recently? A few have attempted to justify the reasoning for no gate receipts but i remain unconvinced. FYI, i am happy to miss out this season for receipts to return to play offs in the future.
I believe John is correct here. Had the same happen in OASL with playoffs where there was an entry for MVPs being granted, but the rewards did not get added to accounts. I find them annoying oddities to deal with as commish there, but at least there aren't many matches to deal with the results of.
Congrats to the winners - this was the hardest season I can remember for prediction league, and I am quite impressed that some of you were able to achieve such consistently high scores! EF and DEE made for quite an exciting race to the finish and both deserve their cushy OTF payouts. Well done, gents.
Also, I can't remember a season where there were no ties in the top 5. Usually at least 6 or 7 managers get paid out with the ties...I think it was 12 managers last season!
MVP resources weren't added I don't think.
ABE don't have 1 TP in account.
DUU I don't know what CP total was before match.
MVP 25k was added though which is fair enough I suppose.
The rules have been set in stone for ages about playoff games not awarding gate monies - pretend they are been held behind closed doors.
But I do see MVPs were awarded which resulted in 3 teams receiving 25k or even 1 CP - wonder if a playoff game should count towards a MVP? Easy to take away but just wondered....
Suppose 4th team in Div 2 didn't get any prize money for 4th, so 5th place team ought not bank another 75k gate receipts and potentially a free CP or TP slot worth another 25k each from an extra match.
Injuries don't carry over as EL is reset at the start of the new season.
But suspensions do carry over - DUU had two players booked that now have a 1 match suspension and they do carry over.
can't really award relegation threatened teams with a free game of gate receipts
thats a wild way to look at it. NAI / EF and the div 3 5th and 6th place were far from relegation threatened? If there were any injuries / suspensions incurred as a result of the play offs would they still count?
Think it's classed as additional game outwith league play, so can't really award relegation threatened teams with a free game of gate receipts rest of teams don't get.
Resources can't be used either in playoff games, I remember folk saying that last season.
I think both scenarios are reasonably fair.
Do we actually get nothing for that?
No gate receipts? Aware its 77k but lost as to why we are entitled to it?
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 52:
East Fife - MVP #5: 25k (wwW)
Dundee United - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWd)
Aberdeen - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Click "journals" button beside Notebook near top right of web page.
See a journal posted:-
Monday April 7th, 2025 - 01:46:18 PM GMT
Team Player of the Season
Where do we send the POTS info and when do we have til to do so?
Team | xP |
MOT | 73,6 |
FRA | 55,7 |
ARB | 51,5 |
CLY | 47,9 |
DUM | 44,6 |
STE | 44,4 |
DEE | 44,3 |
SRA | 41,8 |
LIV | 40,4 |
COW | 37,9 |
HEA | 37,8 |
HAM | 35,6 |
RR | 35,2 |
CB | 26,4 |
CEL | 21,1 |
STJ | 20,3 |
The boring table 1st. No major movements, just find your team and ranking.
Interestingly, the relegated and playoff teams were the "correct" ones - with sole exception HEA (cf. below).
Team | Luck |
HEA | +14,2 |
ARB | +12,5 |
LIV | +6,6 |
STE | +5,6 |
DEE | +2,7 |
HAM | +2,4 |
STJ | +1,7 |
COW | +1,1 |
FRA | -0,7 |
RR | -1,2 |
CB | -1,4 |
DUM | -1,6 |
SRA | -1,8 |
CLY | -2,9 |
CEL | -3,1 |
MOT | -10,6 |
HEA defend their lead - with quite impressive +14.2.
ARB tried their best: playing both DEE and CLY as dog gave them enough room to claim this trophy. Sadly, they did not win both matches, so I expect them to be extremely depressed after last week's results.
(Not so) Fun fact:
The top 3 lucky rollers are also the top 3 of the junk table!
Apparently some of their opponents thought that they were still not lucky enough, and helped them even further.
From front page, this is my understanding -
all teams who didn't win a sponsor lot in auction, received the default sponsor.
more than half those teams noted below still haven't hit the 100k target, which seems silly as so easy to have achieved for 200k for little effort.
Earn 100k in participation bonus
Div 1: CEL CLY CB DUM HAM MOT
Div 2: ABE AI ALB GM INV MON PET RAN
Div 3: BER COV DEV DFA EST KIL SM STI
How does the Default Sponsorship lot work?
Div2 Manager of Season poll vote on front page now
all 48 managers can vote til April 23rd
Well done Leon as DEV won the Div 3 top manager vote this week.
Just read the fineprint
How about the party bonus bonus?
The following teams receive SESL Officer Duties through :
EF(400) HIB(200) MOT(300) PT(100)
Prediction Chief : 400k EF
Press Officer : 300k MOT
Auction Value Analyst: 300k PT part of season
Auction Action Reviews: 200k PT part of season, 100k
Sesl cup betting admin: 200k HIB
Ah. I see it now
On my mobile the div 3 teams appear on the left under the numbered bids. I get that at work sometimes when someone saves their CV and it has great big blank gaps in it due to formatting.
The following teams receive Sponsorship success through :
ALO(200) ARB(300) AYR(300) BRE(300) COW(400) DEE(200) DUU(400) EF(400) EDI(200) ELG(400) FOR(300) HEA(300) HIB(400) LIV(200) NAI(400) QOS(300) QP(200) ROS(400) STE(400) SRA(300)
Team league goals >=60 COW-NAI- 400k
player >=4 Man of Match STE-ELG-DUU 400k
Top 6 league finish -EF - 400k
3 clean sheets in a row -HIB-ROS 400k
Unbeaten streak 3 games ARB-QOS-AYR 300k
Last 16 in either Cup HEA- -FOR 300k
Have >=3 age0 SL10+ SRA-BRE- 300k
Team DP <= 200 DEE-ALO-QP 200k
10 OTF end of season --
Team league goals >=25 LIV- -EDI 200k
Aston Villa 2-2 Newcastle
Brentford 1-1 Brighton
Crystal Palace 1-0 Bournemouth
Everton 0-2 Man City
Fulham 1-3 Chelsea
Ipswich Town 1-3 Arsenal
Leicester City 0-3 Liverpool
Man United 1-2 Wolves
Tottenham 1-1 Nottingham Forest
West Ham 3-1 Southampton
Arsenal 3-0 Crystal Palace
Man City 2-0 Aston Villa
17 teams have used their 50 words plus in giving me their POTS (see title). The closing date for entering and earning the player either 1,2,3 SLs next season and your club 50k is 30th April...
Majority of the teams so far are from the 1st division - why wouldn't EVERY 2nd and 3rd Division side NOT want at least 2SLs, maybe 3SLs for their POTS? Over half of the entruies are from the 16 teams in the top division, so do it now before you miss out.
Cash and SLs will be added at the beginning of the new season....
I don't find anything unusual about the below......(written by Dave below):
"Div 3 winners EF in S56.
Unusual manager of season votes for sure.
CHOICE | TOTAL VOTES |
PET: Stephen (11th Top17 at season start) | 15 |
STI: Roy (16th Top17 at season start) | 9 |
EF: Paul (2nd Top17 at season start) | 2 |
FOR: Willy (5th Top17 at season start) | 1 |
"
5 teams in Div 3 won sponsorship per blog couple below this.
Maybe image has stretched on your phone Roy. Try turning phone on side maybe?
DUU ROS AYR QP & EDI are all listed below as successfully achieving sponsorship.
Might be a few more missing if we use the sponsorship on the front page
EDI scored 25+ goals and Ayr went unbeaten for 3 league games
Only one Div 3 team won their sponsorship?
Hoping to pick up 20k party bonus before end of season for our default sponsorship
If Ross County needed 3 clean sheets for theirs they did that recently
1 Team league goals for >=60 400k COW -- NAI --
2 1 player >=4 Man of Match 400k STE -- ELG -- DUU
3 Top 6 league finish 400k -- EF --
4 3 clean sheets in a row 400k -- HIB -- ROS
5 Unbeaten streak of 3 games 300k ARB -- QOS -- AYR
6 Last 16 in either Cup 300k HEA --
7 Have >=3 age0 SL10+ 300k SRA -- BRE --
8 Team DP <= 200 200k DEE -- ALO -- QP
9 Have 10 OTF at end of season 200k --
10 Team league goals for >=25 200k LIV -- EDI
(The default participation pay out sponsors will be at end of month once all blog & journals credited)
Gameweek 33 is a 12 gameweek session with 2 midweek games. This is as the FA cup semifinals clash with gameweek 34.
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Newcastle
Brentford 2 - 1 Brighton
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Everton 1 - 2 Man. City
Fulham 1 - 2 Chelsea
Ipswich Town 0 - 2 Arsenal
Leicester City 0 - 2 Liverpool
Man. United 2 - 1 Wolves
Tottenham 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
West Ham 2 - 0 Southampton
Arsenal 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Man. City 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Well done Andrew McCumisky on the win
Andrew McCumiskey 9.5
Alon Atie 9.0
Paul Cockyne 8.0
Andy Shaw 7.5
David Blair 6.5
Ross Hayworth 5.5
Completely disagree with the blowout being removed for ABE.
The appeal against A blowout should be for when an injury happens and leads to a <50%. You played less than 50%, you got unlucky, but you benefitted later.
Strongly disagree (History supports my stance) to the appeal
I never realised PT blip. Appreciated 😁
Could be worse - RR missed their 10 OTF sponsor by (checks notes 🫣) just 9 OTF short.
EF claim their sponsorship of a top 6 finish ON GOAL DIFFERENCE
PT lose their sponsorship of a top 6 finish ON GOAL DIFFERENCE
The final results are in, even if the trophy is already claimed by ARB ...
Team | Junk | JDs |
ARB | 12 | 7 |
HEA | 11 | 7 |
LIV | 10 | 6 |
DEE | 8 | 1 |
STJ | 7 | 6 |
COW | 7 | 4 |
CLY | 6 | 3 |
SRA | 6 | 2 |
FRA | 6 | 0 |
STE | 6 | 0 |
MOT | 5 | 1 |
RR | 4 | 0 |
HAM | 3 | 2 |
CB | 3 | 1 |
DUM | 2 | 2 |
CEL | 2 | 2 |
HEA and LIV - respectively their opponents - made some serious attempts in the end.
But ARB showed some top performance all through the season - well, their opponents did.
I will probably write some remarks later on, but for now: let the confetti fly!
ABE chose to play strong lineups in matches they tried to win - and weak (and risky) lineups in the 2 blowouts.
It worked: ABE did make the playoffs, other teams did not.
But the potential costs are pretty much clear.
Now, if Ross was a newbie manager - who might not know the many and simple ways to avoid blowout fines - the appeal would be a no-brainer.
Still, it's Ross' 58th(!) season, it doesn't get much more experienced.
You just can't get into a casino and get your losing bets refunded.
BLOWOUT VALUES |
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BLOWOUT % | 50 | Blowouts are caused when a team is beaten by a threshold of goals when they use only a low percentage of available skill levels on the roster. Blowout % is the value which determines what percentage of total skill level should be used by a coach deemed acceptable and within the spirit of the game. |
BLOWOUT GOAL DIFFERENCE | 6 | Blowout Goal Difference is the number of goals a team must be beaten by to have committed a blowout. |
So whats the issue ?
I agree with Alon an attempt was made to compete in both matches ABE were recently blown out in.
I'd refund 120k x 2
Still a desperately poor budgeting season by ABE though.
I think the fact that ABE paid 40K for a home bonus in GW 47 should prove they did everything they could with their weakened team.
There are legitimate times when managers need to rest their stars,and the game would be really boring if there was no strategy allowed and we all just played 2 third strength teams every game.
However spending 40K on home bonus shows ABEs bone fides and I would personally give them a pass on both fines..
At least Aberdeen have probably got 50k this in week in Partciption money for this week, then get 100k for participation over the season. That's at least 1 of them fines paid for!
Div 3 winners EF in S56.
Unusual manager of season votes for sure.
CHOICE | TOTAL VOTES |
PET: Stephen (11th Top17 at season start) | 15 |
STI: Roy (16th Top17 at season start) | 9 |
EF: Paul (2nd Top17 at season start) | 2 |
FOR: Willy (5th Top17 at season start) | 1 |
I think things have changed a bit since Mark started quoting the start-of -season ratings along with team to vote for. As I recall, when East Fife won Div 3 a couple of seasons ago, we only picked up one or two votes in total.
I agree with Colin, it does seem to generally go to the league winners. But i think part of the interest in voting is that different people do use slightly different criteria nad value performances of opposition managers in different ways, which is good. I generally start with the league winners (aas the league doesnt lie!) - it takes a lot to win any division in SESL and it deserves the credit, but then overlay any big over-achievers as this could be a better performance froma amnagerial perspective.
Personally, i do place lass value on the cups as far as amanger of the season award goes. But only for the reason that ive alwasy looked at it as a 'league' award because we vot by division. We dont vote for one across SESL, based on overall performance, so i generally look at it as a league performance.
Given that you can considerably change your league or your overall performance based on your cup choices (pushing for it, or resting players) though, it could be looked at in different ways!
Mostly it goes to the guy who won the league. I recall a guy won two cups but 'only' finished 3rd in Division 1 so did not get manager of the season. He isn't bitter 😂
Not only a blowout fine in match 47 but paid 40k for Home Bonus. Twice the pain. Ouch
Another way of looking at it is that you played below 50% in two games you thought you would lose against top 4 teams so that you could play 72% against teams you thought you could, and did, beat.
Appeal Blow Out fine in match 48
48 Apr 05 L 0 - 6 @ Elgin City
2nd place team were at home. ABE sat 13th in Div 2
ABE played 44% SL
Appeal that this 6 goal defeat was unlucky, and the match was not thrown.
On same day, a teams 5th in Div 1 at time played just 39% and was not blowout
On same day a team 10th in Div 3 played 47% and avoided a blowout
On same day a team in top half on Div 2 played 32%, yes 32% at home, and avoided a playoff.
ABE made an effort to compete in this match.
Do a few mamagers wish to speak up to think this was unlucky and blowout fine could maybe be refunded?
Appeal Blow Out fine in match 47
47 Apr 05 L 0 - 6 Hibernian
ABE played 48% SL
ABE faced 7 shots.
ABE lost 6-0
Appeal that this was statistically unlucky, and the match was not thrown.
Furthermore, oppostion fielded SEVEN players who finished in negative EL so were going hard in this match.
3 further players for opposition ended with zero EL.
What is main criteria managers place when voting in the poll?
Who over-achieved? Or who dominated much of season?
Well done the top 5 winners. Previously there was always multiple joint winners in top 5 places, but this handful heads above the rest.
Frustrating to have missed a couple of weeks, so it's genius to have the "best 7" count rule so a dozen or more don't give up before the end.
Well run. Well done. Congrats Paul at EF for both.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 10 12/4/25:
AYR(13) DUM(13) DEE(13) EST(13) EDI(13) ELG(13) HIB(13) STI(13)
My late positing this week didn't seem to have to much of an effect, as we had 18 entries, the same as last time, with all the front runners submitting predictions. This was a high-scoring round, an average score of 5.94, with the only really tricky games proving to be the draw between Ayr and Dundee United and St Mirren's win at Falkirk.
No less tha eight teams scored seven points this week, so it's a generous 13k each to David at Hibs, Roy at Stirling, William at Edinburgh, Paul at Ayr, Jason at Elgin, Colin at Dumbarton, Tyron at East Stirling and Eduard at Dundee.
Despite a poor last round, East Fife had done enough and pipped Eduard's Dundee by one point. Other prizes go to Stirling, East Stirlingshire and Motherwell.
Thanks to everyone who took part, see you next season!
Prediction | AYR v DUU | DEV v EST | BER v FOR | COV v PT | DFA v ROS | EDI v STI | FAL v SM | KIL v QP |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 17% | 100% | 33% | 17% | 28% | 94% | 33% | 61% |
Away | 72% | 0% | 61% | 83% | 56% | 0% | 61% | 28% |
Draw | 11% | 0% | 6% | 0% | 17% | 6% | 6% | 11% |
Banker Count | 6% | 39% | 0% | 6% | 0% | 50% | 0% | 0% |
Result | 3 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 |
Round 10 Scores | |
---|---|
Team | Points |
Ayr | 7 |
Dumbarton | 7 |
Dundee | 7 |
East Stirlingshire | 7 |
Edinburgh | 7 |
Elgin City | 7 |
Hibernian | 7 |
Stirling | 7 |
Alloa | 6 |
Falkirk | 6 |
St Johnstone | 6 |
Aberdeen | 5 |
Arbroath | 5 |
East Fife | 5 |
Livingston | 5 |
Stranraer | 5 |
Cowdenbeath | 4 |
Motherwell | 4 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | D1 44 | D2 47 | D3 50 | Best 7 | Special | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R8 | R9 | R10 | R7 | Total | |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 7 | 5 | 46 | 5 | 51 |
2 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 46 | 4 | 50 |
3 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 42 | 5 | 47 |
4 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 43 | 3 | 46 |
5 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 41 | 3 | 44 |
6 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 7 | 5 | 39 | 2 | 41 |
6 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 7 | 36 | 5 | 41 |
8 | Ayr United | 5 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 34 | 5 | 39 | ||
8 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 36 | 3 | 39 |
10 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 7 | 34 | 4 | 38 | |
10 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 33 | 5 | 38 | |
12 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 6 | 33 | 4 | 37 | |
12 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 31 | 6 | 37 | ||
12 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 32 | 5 | 37 | ||
12 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 32 | 5 | 37 | |
16 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 33 | 3 | 36 | ||
17 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 32 | 3 | 35 | ||
18 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 32 | 2 | 34 | |
19 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 30 | 3 | 33 | |||
20 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 28 | 4 | 32 | ||
21 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 31 | 31 | ||
22 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 26 | 4 | 30 | |||
23 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 25 | 4 | 29 | ||||
24 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 23 | 4 | 27 | ||
24 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 23 | 4 | 27 | ||||
26 | Dumbarton | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 7 | 24 | 24 | |||||
26 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 24 | 24 | ||||
28 | Forfar | 4 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 15 | 3 | 18 | |||||
29 | Brechin City | 3 | 4 | 7 | 7 | ||||||||
29 | Dunfermline | 4 | 3 | 7 | 7 | ||||||||
31 | Aberdeen | 5 | 5 | 5 | |||||||||
32 | Albion | 3 | 3 | 3 |
Season 58 Prizes | ||
---|---|---|
Place | Team | Prize |
1 | East Fife | 3 OTF |
2 | Dundee | 2 OTF |
3 | Stirling | 1 OTF |
4 | East Stirlingshire | 2 TP |
5 | Motherwell | 1 CP |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 51:
Dundee FC - MVP #9: 25k (Wdw)
Fraserburgh - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Hearts - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
Dumbarton - MVP #6: 25k (dWw)
Livingston - MVP #7: 25k (wWD)
Albion Rovers - MVP #5: 25k (wWw)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Saint Mirren - MVP #5: 25k (WwD)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 50:
Annan Athletic - MVP #6: 25k (WdW)
Greenock Morton - MVP #3: 1 TP (Www)
Most of us who actually know where we will be finishing or have little to play for in the last couple of games, tend to be more involved in not having suspensions starting next season.
We tend to miss the important games that others are involved in where not only championships and promotion can be won, but even relegation and playoffs too.
Good luck to all - my games won't affect my nor my opponents fate, so I can say that.
PS Ross (ABE) - remember to journal and put in your POTS player (and 50 words about him - that'll net you 50k next season. 9 teams have done so, so far, and EVERY 3rd division side should -the saving on CPs is up to 300k. 💰💰
Exciting day today. Very much possible that in all 3 divisions it comes down to the final seconds to crown the champions.
Im usually not one of the contenders, so I have no idea how rare this is. It is rare that my team is involved though 🤣
Best of luck to everyone playing for something today!
Ross, think you will get the 100k for basically Not winning a sponsorship.
BUT spend 10 minutes at the start of the season and update your Bios (team and personal) - it's 200k for the effort- you haven't done it for at least 25 seasons. You would have earned 5,000k in that time.. just saying...💰💰💰 😉😉😉
All teams ticked with orders in for match 50.
Don't think I have even seen that before at high noon with 3 hours until deadline.
Or is it 4 hours to go?
Why is clock changed anyway? Historically to help farmers some might say?
Why can't farmers just change their working start time depending on daylight?
Or farmers too busy counting their millions of vast area of land and greenfield they own?
Anyway. As you were. Stop.
Earn 100k in participation bonus to receive another 100k from sponsor?
Seems reasonable.
Don't think I even bid in sponsorship auction.
But here at Aberdeen I accept the challenge.
Not sure what the guidelines are for participation money? Is it number of words that is paid?
Number of sentences? Perhaps. Maybe. Just maybe.
I like a full stop. Clear definition of a new sentence on the way and will follow.
Did I say I like full stops? Just stop.
Earn 100k in participation bonus Div 1: CEL CLY CB DUM HAM MOT Div 2: ABE AI ALB GM INV MON PET RAN Div 3: BER COV DEV DFA EST KIL SM STI |
100k | default sponsor for all |
ABE
Bournemouth 0 - 0 Fulham
Arsenal 4 - 1 Brentford
Brighton 2 - 0 Leicester City
Chelsea 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 5 - 1 West Ham
Man. City 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 3 - 1 Man. United
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Everton
Southampton 0 - 5 Aston Villa
Wolves 1 - 1 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
EPL
Bournemouth 3 - 3 Fulham
Arsenal 3 - 1 Brentford
Brighton 2 - 1 Leicester City
Chelsea 3 - 2 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 2 - 1 West Ham
Man. City 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 1 - 1 Man. United
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Everton
Southampton 1 - 3 Aston Villa
Wolves 1 - 3 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Yes, on many occasions Roy, most times I have to go over my comments and reduce to fit it in. I'm sure many others have noticed it too and occasionally run over to a 2nd comment. 👍👍
Dave and I have been commenting on Cove's woes this season in the pre-match comments for their game Vs Partick today.
But it looks like it's removing the last 2-3 letters from the 99 characters allowed. My guess is it's 96. Anyone else spotted this?
Bournemouth 2 - 2 Fulham
Arsenal 1 - 0 Brentford
Brighton 2 - 1 Leicester City
Chelsea 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 2 - 1 West Ham
Man. City 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 3 - 0 Man. United
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Everton
Southampton 1 - 3 Aston Villa
Wolves 1 - 1 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Any team not winning an auction lot will be allocated the back-up default lot for participation bonus.
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 400k | COW -- NAI -- FAL |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 400k | STE -- ELG -- DUU |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | STJ -- EF -- PT |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 400k |
FRA -- HIB -- ROS |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 300k | ARB -- QOS -- AYR |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | HEA -- ANN -- FOR |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | SRA -- BRE -- |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | DEE -- ALO -- QP |
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | 200k | RR -- -- |
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | 200k | LIV -- -- EDI |
Earn 100k in participation bonus Div 1: CEL CLY CB DUM HAM MOT Div 2: ABE AI ALB GM INV MON PET RAN Div 3: BER COV DEV DFA EST KIL SM STI |
100k | default sponsor for all |
Bournemouth 2-1 Fulham
Arsenal 3-1 Brentford
Brighton 2-0 Leicester City
Chelsea 3-1 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 2-1 West Ham
Man City 2-1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 2-1 Man United
Nottingham Forest 2-1 Everton
Southampton 1-1 Aston Villa
Wolves 1-1 Tottenham
Newcastle 2-0 Crystal Palace
Thanks to Mark for listening to me, then contributing to get the final draft, and hopefully thanks to my colleagues who will take part. Remember if your lad gets 1,2,3 SLs it will be CPs you can spend on other players so there is a hidden bonus in you taking part. I see PT and SRA are up 1st on Journals to pick their lads and both will pick up the bonus for their team. I am going on now - 30th April isn't too far away..
For some reason I didn't think you could use an aggressive defender to manmark a player. Don't know why. But it's not in the rules that you can't and it's the effective marking SL that's used so it would have a bigger effect when marking.
There are a number of defenders well known for their man-marking skills but when it comes to the big games it;s the midfielders who marked their counterparts out of the game that stand out - Bobby Charlton marked Frank Beckenbauer in the 66 final, Lothar Matthaus smothered Maradona in the 90 final and to a lesser extent Park Ji-Sung was Pirlo's shadow in when Man Utd played AC Milan in the Champions League
Well done David and Mark. Looks really well put together. Love the settings you gents have landed on and look forward to seeing how it plays out.
Gents,
Mark happy to trial (and review next season) a Player of the Season per team and has contributed to most of the points below:
It is a trial, off season is on us soon, so why not take part, and do it NOW whilst it is still fresh..??
Who knows, if this takes off then next season we could trial “Youth POTS”
Team | xP |
MOT | 69,6 |
FRA | 50,9 |
ARB | 49,6 |
CLY | 45,8 |
STE | 41,2 |
DUM | 41,1 |
DEE | 40,3 |
SRA | 38,6 |
LIV | 37,2 |
COW | 36,6 |
HAM | 33,7 |
RR | 33,3 |
HEA | 32,2 |
CB | 26,2 |
CEL | 19,7 |
STJ | 19,5 |
For those of you who haven't noticed: MOT already claimed the #1 season spot of the xP table last week.
The several races for the several also runs still remain pretty much open.
Team | Luck |
HEA | +13,8 |
ARB | +10,4 |
STE | +5,8 |
HAM | +4,3 |
LIV | +3,8 |
DEE | +2,7 |
STJ | +2,5 |
COW | -0,6 |
CLY | -0,8 |
CB | -1,2 |
SRA | -1,6 |
FRA | -1,9 |
DUM | -2,1 |
RR | -2,3 |
CEL | -4,7 |
MOT | -7,6 |
Much more interesting: the lucky guy ranking (no lucky gal in this league).
HEA claim a solid lead though by now. While 3.4 luck vs ARB are not quite insurmountable, I wouldn't bet against the beloved Hearts.
Fascinating, Steve. In all the times I've read through the rules I never picked up that 'fighting marking' was only for aggressive. My brain had always shortcut it to aggressive and dirty. Particularly relevant information for playing against ALO
Apologies to everyone, I have only just realised that I've never posted the round 10 entry form....it's on the Notebook now....
One other difference is with marking. A normal SL 32 player can only be marked down to 8 EffSL (75% lost) no matter what the SL(s) of the marking player(s). His Shooting SL isn't affected.
If aggressive his EffSL goes up to 40 and this can only be reduced to 20 by marking (50% loss).
With dirty it can be reduced to 10 (back to 75%).
I have never figured out what happens with fractions.
Is there another round of the prediction league remaining ?
First off, great idea, David. I like the overall structure and think it would be a nice touch. A few thoughts below regarding the conversation on here:
No matter what the final details are, I think this will be a good addition that should add some fun and a slight change of pace. I trust David and Mark can iron out the details to reach a fun and balanced implementation.
Realized I didn't address David's comment on bookings. Both aggressive and dirty increase the odds of your player receiving a booking/sending off and give a chance for giving away a penalty kick. But, the two tactics both increase those odds by the same amound compared to normal and passive
Same boost to your stats, that is all correct.
Main difference is injury chance. Dirty is often preferable when you have an equal or stronger bench than your opponent, or you just think the drop off for your opponent's subs will be substantial enough to benefit you. If you play aggressive, you increase the injury chances for each team x2. If you play dirty, you increase the injury chances for your team x3 and the opposing team x5. With multiple players using the tactic, this gap in injury odds between your side and the opponent grows.
I was always under the impression that d was a tactic that could cause an injury to an opponent's player. Not sure if there is a comensurate increase to your lad's chances of a sending off (or yellow card) - thinking there should be if currently there isn't. But other managers out there will know for sure. Goodness, I am fairly stepping up my participation - sure I am going to get the max 4000k now. :-)
11 aggressive in cup final today, and 3 set to play dirty.
Both increase SL by the same.
Both use 7 EL in 90 minutes.
So what is the benefit of 'a' vs 'd' ?
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through Apologies - Sharp scored and I missed it. :
INV(100) LIV(100)
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through SESL Cup Final INV v DEE 9/4/25 WINNINGS:
ALB(300) ANN(300) ARB(300) COW(300) DEV(300) DUM(300) DEE(300) EF(300) EDI(300) ELG(300) FAL(300) FRA(300) HIB(300) INV(200) KIL(300) MOT(300) PT(300) SRA(300)
I like the betting idea, as gives rest if us 'also-rans' an added interest in Wednesday cup matches.
The following teams receive Betting on Cup Final through SESL Cup Final - INV v DEE 9/4/25:
ALB(-100) ANN(-100) ARB(-100) COW(-100) DEV(-100) DUM(-100) DEE(-100) EF(-100) EDI(-100) ELG(-100) FAL(-100) FRA(-100) HIB(-100) INV(-100) KIL(-100) LIV(-100) MOT(-100) PT(-100) SRA(-100)
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Fulham
Arsenal 1 - 1 Brentford
Brighton 4 - 0 Leicester City
Chelsea 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 3 - 0 West Ham
Man. City 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 2 - 0 Man. United
Nottingham Forest 2 - 0 Everton
Southampton 0 - 8 Aston Villa
Wolves 2 - 0 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
11 Games this gameweek starting onSaturday lunchtime
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Fulham
Arsenal 2 - 0 Brentford
Brighton 2 - 0 Leicester City
Chelsea 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 2 - 0 West Ham
Man. City 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 2 - 1 Man. United
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Everton
Southampton 0 - 2 Aston Villa
Wolves 2 - 1 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
I like the idea. Another quirk adding some more interest to the league and manager decision.
The 1/2/3 levels are a good idea. One player can make a difference but if every team has the same option it might not have as big an impact on future results. And if it did why not? Would be interesting to find out.
My own added suggestion which goes completely against what other managers have been saying about PU would be to add the SL preseason and not include it in PU.
On a week where Liverpool finally lose away and none of the top 5 win we have a 3 way
in the predictions.
Andrew Foss Grant 9
Cameron Archibald 9
Alon Atie 9
Paul Cockyne 8
Dave Smyth 5
Andy Shaw 4
Numbers. It is possible to end the season with 0/22 player. He then, could finish the following season at 1/30. Then go on to be 2/35 - if correctly CP'd. That means it is possible to have a 3/30 at the start of the following season. You need to start with a 0/10 but it can be done.
From 3/30, div 3 team claims he is their POTS and by MSA he is 3/43 and ends the season 3/38 or hold off at 3/39 and could finish the sesson at 3/39. Starts the following season at 4/32 - I think.
I am not saying I don't like this idea but to suggest that MSA would counter any benefit is - in my opinion - somewhat misleading.
Carry on...
I do remember that tournament and that match against Kevin however, as a point of order, I have to say it was not in the final. I know who won that tournament and was not Kevin or Steve ;-)
It is a better story to make it the final though...
It's a yes from me.
Those not keen and can side step it if they wish.
Any other managers got an opinion on this?
I didn't say the additions would NOT count to PUs - I laid it open for discussion (and a few lads are earning participation money discussing so some good has come of it). I suggested initially 1SL per player - Mark suggested perhaps a 1/2/3 based on divisions, so don't shoot the messenger. And it would be Mark who would either abandon the idea or put a Poll out where managers could vote on it.
I am still looking - think I found 1 player in the 3rd division who just might make the 3/40, but if the bonus was either part of PUs or all divisions got the same say +1 then it would not arise.
Just glad some people are not just on looking to shoot holes in anything that might assist teams or just might brighten up some lives. And the sun is still shining - more positives.
Thinking I won't bother about it - (apart from commenting which earns me some cash for CPs next season - some people don't realise they have a great game here - fortunately many of us do realise it.
PS I will be on around 2pm GMT tomorrow to close off the betting on the SESL Cup Final - not before 2pm, but not long after.
Interesting initiative (laid out on a Journal entry yesterday by HIB boss)
I'd lean towards having the SL boost part of PU also. So it's a small skill level boost from teams first match of season. Pre-applied CP if you like, at no outlay cost.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Apr 6th:
ALO(50) ARB(50) DEE(50) EF(50) FAL(25) FOR(35) FRA(25) HEA(25) HIB(50) LIV(25) MOT(50) NAI(15) PT(30) QP(25) SRA(20)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Mar 30th:
ARB(25) DEE(50) EF(50) EST(15) EDI(35) FAL(25) FRA(15) HEA(35) HIB(50) LIV(10) MOT(50) NAI(5) PT(10) PET(5) ROS(20) SM(20) STI(30) SRA(20)
So at the end of the day it's a little freebie for any team who makes the effort. It does mean the player can have 10 CPs added to his training but as the minimum age for a recipient next season will be age 3, MSA will take away some of the benefit, but it IS a benefit. I always wonder why people can't embrace an idea instead of looking for the benefits - I only suggested it to Mark as an extra - most managers might be happy to accept it for minimum effort. Maybe I'm wrong.. 😢😢
Let's do some numbers.
I asked if the added SLs were counted for PU purposes. It was confirmed that not.
The current apex player is a 3/35 (usually GK or FW) before PSA.
After this "not a game changer" the exactly same player would turn up a 3/40 for Div3 teams only.
If you don't consider a GK 40 a game changer, you should probably read the rules again.
I wouldn't care much if the bonus was the same for all Divs.
I would care much less if it would count for PU.
I don't disagree with the POTS concept.
I do very much disagree with game breaking benefits.
Why not just 100k - and maybe even 1 SL within the PU limits?
On the fence with this - after all it's only 1 to 3 free CP. But I'm not not so sure about another 10 PU being allowed. And I bet all decent age 2 GKs get it, maybe age 3 as well. Another 2 PU is another 2 SL and after MSA it's still another 2 SL unless you go over 19 or 29 due to the award. And we all take GKs past that don't we?
Remember any 3,2,1 SLs added to an age 3 or 4 player (aged after PSA) will basically lose it all by MSA next season. This is not a game changer for any team - just an added temporary perk to a player for those managers who wish it. 👍
Eduard,
NO - the SLs would be physically added and would not be counted towards the PU 10.
Would prefer any queries to be just that - queries- not complaints or scares.
Nothing is in stone - it is an idea to see if it could be popular.
John, maybe a rush to the 3rd division would please teams wanting promotion - but to go there for a one off + 3SL for one player, really?
But hopefully others might come back and comment.. 🤔🤔
It happened by accident and it was an NMR team that caused it. I realised the conditions for the exploit and managed, with luck, to achieve it. I've only used it once and will never use it again. It enabled my team to win the semi-final and final.
As I said, Kevin said it was tantamount to cheating as I was exploiting a software glitch that not everyone was aware of.
Per David Blairs journal posted today.
Decent idea outlined on each of us selecting our Player of the Season
I like how the lower division teams get a marginal benefit of an extra SL or two.
If DEE will genuinely take a double relegation just to benefit from 2 (two) skill level, then I'm sure 5th place in Div 2 and Div 3 next weekend would bite your hand off at that offer.
The player would receive +3/2/1 SLs depending upon which division his team FINISHES this season in – 3rd Div/2ndDiv/1st Div.
I suppose those extra SLs are included in the PU calculation.
Otherwise the effects would be quite ridiculous - and I would seriously consider dropping DEE to Div3 and just go for cup runs.
Team | Junk | JDs |
ARB | 12 | 7 |
HEA | 9 | 7 |
LIV | 9 | 6 |
STJ | 7 | 6 |
COW | 7 | 4 |
DEE | 7 | 1 |
CLY | 6 | 3 |
SRA | 6 | 2 |
FRA | 6 | 0 |
MOT | 5 | 1 |
STE | 5 | 0 |
RR | 4 | 0 |
HAM | 3 | 2 |
CB | 3 | 1 |
DUM | 2 | 2 |
CEL | 2 | 2 |
We have a WINNER!
With just 2 matches left, ARB have an uncatchable 3 match lead in the most prestigious junk trophy.
This might not quite the trophy Cameron really wanted.
But for real, who cares about championship #58 or cup #45 - when you are the sole winner of the very 1st Clever Management Trophy!!!
Congratulations!
Need a part 2.
Not specifics - but a little more detail, and the outcome, and fall-out.
I won't be doing that again (probably) and as Morrison is on 8 DP and we face two strict referees it's unlikely he'll play this weekend.
Agree with Eduard about just using GK save percent. Easy to check and managers could put forward their player so Commish doesn't have to check every team.
I once had a keeper "robbed" of golden gloves back in the email days. He played 45 minutes and saved the only shot he faced for a 75.something rating. He was appearing top of the stats week after week. Then in the final week he disappeared (quite rightly, too).
There is one exploit I discovered on SESL (in a match not involving my team and it has happened again) by accident and managed to use in a match. This was in an invitational competition by Adam Meney. My team was Mutant Enemy (some might remember) and we faced Kevin Martin in the final. It left a bad taste in his mouth and he all but accused me of cheating. I've never tried it again, and it's difficult to set up for certain. And I won't disclose what happened.
Liam Polworth (SRA) is second in the "Shooting Squib" list for Div One with 13 misses from 13! It is only worth a trivial $100k but for bankrupt teams like the Blues this is a lifeline. Number one in the list Pellow (CB) is sitting proudly top with 15 from 15 misses! Dilemma: Do I play Polworth and hope he hits row ZZ a couple of times to get some $$ with the risk is that he accidentally machine guns one into the top corner, ruining his growing reputation? If he does not play then we need Pellow to trip over himself in the opposite direction box and bundle one over himself. Pellow is on 4 EL so it is unlikely he will play much or CB score against HEA / DEE. Re-positioning Poleworth as a FW might also increase his chances of stardom?! Oh the pressure of top level Management......
Very much appreciate the insights from Steve and Eduard. I think the conclusion that the awards for GK and MotM are too high is probably correct, if fixing the formulae or using a different metric is prohibitively difficult as Steve says. Now, Mark might have some creative tricks up his sleeve for how he handles it. But, I do enjoy seeing a creative loophole exploited, as Steve has done. Will I enjoy it if it becomes widespread season after season? Maybe not as much, ha!
DEE throwing a match against ARB would certainly be a new low in terms of ways for MOT to lose the title. Would beat out season 55 where 1st placed MOT and 2nd placed STJ each faced 3rd placed CEL in the second to last weekend...and CEL put in T-11 orders against MOT and NMR'd against STJ. No, no, not bitter at all about it, why do you ask? 😂
ALO's play was an obvious exploit - and gave me some ideas for next week: Ghadzhalov might need some "practice" vs ARB.
The GK award formula is clearly disfunctional. Whoever thought that shots faced was a "performance" by the keeper!?
The solution is of course very simple: rank the GKs by save % - with a minimum of e.g. 900 mins played. Easily done by hand, problem solved.
Anyway, all awards should be scaled down, e.g. 50k to 100k per award max.
The winners would still get the bragging rights, but not get ridiculous amounts of cash.
This way Steve (and anybody else) simply wouldn't care too much about the Fair Play (Overperformer, Shooting Squid, ...) Trophy - and not turn to such silly moves like this week.
Just watched the ALO v RAN match - Stevie T was spot on - never seen such a wholesome shot allocation before.
I admit I'm not too happy about what I did but it started out as frustration that I can't get anywhere near the Fair Play award. My tactics, for a long time, have been to win 2, lose 1 (or at least try) with the lose 1 being a 50% lineup playing passive. I probably play more passive players that anyone else. Even Peterhead play normal in the "lose 1 hope not to get a blowout fine" tactic. I don't know if we're just unlucky with ref allocation or in the games themselves. In our last 10 games we have had one Strong Fair ref and one Loose ref (neutral game), the rest have been Strict or Homer (with us away) or both. The next two games are Strict. Yes I know it's random and I haven't checked all my games or other teams. But none of the Strict or Homer Fair refs appear in the top 5 most used refs this season.
Another was from Season 49, my first season at Alloa. We were battling with EST to avoid the Woden Spoon even though the "loser" would probably get a cash injection from the Robin Hood rule. With 6 matches to go we were level on 14 points. We finished on 24 and EST on 20 but EST were rewarded. Also we were in the running for the Golden Gloves trophy but in match 50 Forfar were thrashed 7-1, their keeper had many shots to save and they game overtook us despite conceding 7. We won 2-1 and drew 0-0 in those games and it cost us. I said then that Golden Gloves was broken but it's a major code rewrite when even simpler ones can't be done.
We were already relegated before Saturday's game and I realised that Morrison had a chance on most man of the match awards and also golden gloves if the team played poorly.
Fairly clever way to lock down the golden gloves award cash, Steve, I'll give you that.
Perhaps not a method we want to be encouraging in the game, long-term, but certainly not against the rules. Does perhaps give some urgency to updating the longstanding flaws in the golden gloves/GK rating formula, however.
I could be wrong but I think Alloa might have been involved in two record breaking games today.
Against Rangers they had a 140% shot chance to start the game. This means a guaranteed shot or offside every minute until they went 4-0 up when it dropped to 70%.
Against Montrose they had a lower shot chance, though still very high, and Morrison had a great game so they didn't go four goals up until late. Innthe end they had 46 chances and another 7 offsides. Morrison saved 34 of the 40 on target shots he faced. Maybe two records here.
I started following Forfar once I got the SESL team (never heard of the team before), and I try to use some RL player names, but like Richard said, players go in and out of these teams faster than our seasons!
Today was a key win for Forfar to avoid relegation...
I try to stick to Nairn players but generally change so quickly at non league. Our 0/17 FW Matthew Wright, joined Nairn at the start of the season but was sold to Brora mid way. Pretty sure Matty Wright at ELG will be the same Matthew Wright as potentially on loan there from Ross County before joining Nairn.
I support Nairn in real life and made the trip down to Brechin today to watch them get horsed 3-0. First time to Brechin since they joined the highland league a few year ago. Tight at the top of the highland league as well, 1 game to go both teams (Brora and Brechin) level on points but Brora have a far superior goal difference.
When I first took over at Deveronvale I always used real player names and followed them, even reading their forum. Back then they were a decent side and won the Highland League and even beat a top tier team in the Scottish Cup.
Just a thought here:
What if the final league position determined your seeding for the next season SESL Cup?
How it would work? Top 8 from each division go into different SESL Cup groups. So we just draw what group each of the top 8 from each division would go to.
The rest can be random.
This will make the latter part of the season a bit more interesting for teams that can get to fight for 8th place (or better) and get into a SESL group for next season that will not have any of the other top 8 of your division.
Just a though, and not too hard to implement.
Cheers!
Do I get any price for the worst prediction score of the season?
To get only 1 point is almost as hard as to get 7 points... ;)
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 9 5/4/25:
ARB(50) EF(50)
A low entry (18) this week but a high average score, just a snidge below five. The away wins for Queen of the South, Nairn and Greenock Morton tripped most people up.
Two managers notched up seven points, so it's 50k each for Cameron at Arbroath and Paul at East Fife.
With the last round coming up next Saturday, it looks as if East Fife will some out as winners - Eduard at Dundee will need to notch up a maximum score to overtake them. There's plenty of competition for the other prizes, though. Fifth place is enough to get you a CP and tied teams are bracketed together for prizes.
I will post the entry form for round ten on the Notebook shortly.
Prediction | ABE v HIB | ELG v MON | BRE v PET | ALO v RAN | AI v QOS | ALB v NAI | ANN v INV | EF v GM |
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Home | 6% | 78% | 56% | 0% | 78% | 83% | 83% | 94% |
Away | 94% | 17% | 28% | 89% | 11% | 6% | 11% | 0% |
Draw | 0% | 6% | 17% | 11% | 11% | 11% | 6% | 6% |
Banker Count | 22% | 6% | 0% | 28% | 0% | 11% | 28% | 6% |
Result | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 |
Round 8 Scores |
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Team | Points |
Arbroath | 7 |
East Fife | 7 |
Ayr | 6 |
Dundee | 6 |
East Stirlingshire | 6 |
Hibernian | 6 |
Motherwell | 6 |
Stirling | 6 |
Stranraer | 6 |
Alloa | 5 |
Cowdenbeath | 5 |
Edinburgh | 5 |
Ross County | 5 |
Hearts | 4 |
Elgin City | 3 |
Falkirk | 3 |
Deveronvale | 2 |
Forfar | 1 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | D1 44 | D2 47 | Best 7 | Special | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R8 | R9 | R7 | Total | |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 7 | 46 | 5 | 51 |
2 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 44 | 4 | 48 |
3 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 41 | 3 | 44 |
4 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 40 | 3 | 43 |
4 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 38 | 5 | 43 |
6 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 7 | 38 | 2 | 40 |
7 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 36 | 3 | 39 |
8 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 33 | 5 | 38 |
9 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 31 | 6 | 37 | |
9 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 32 | 5 | 37 | |
11 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 30 | 4 | 34 | |
11 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 30 | 4 | 34 | |
11 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 32 | 2 | 34 |
11 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 6 | 29 | 5 | 34 | |
15 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 6 | 28 | 5 | 33 | |
15 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 30 | 3 | 33 | ||
17 | Ayr United | 5 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 27 | 5 | 32 | ||
17 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 28 | 4 | 32 | |
19 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 28 | 3 | 31 | ||
20 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 26 | 4 | 30 | ||
21 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 25 | 4 | 29 | |||
21 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 26 | 3 | 29 | ||
23 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 28 | 28 | ||
24 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 23 | 4 | 27 | |
24 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 23 | 4 | 27 | |||
26 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 24 | 24 | |||
27 | Forfar | 4 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 15 | 3 | 18 | ||||
28 | Dumbarton | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 17 | 17 | |||||
29 | Brechin City | 3 | 4 | 7 | 7 | |||||||
29 | Dunfermline | 4 | 3 | 7 | 7 | |||||||
31 | Albion | 3 | 3 | 3 |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 48:
Hibernian - MVP #6: 25k (Wwd)
Nairn County - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
Deveronvale - MVP #6: 25k (wWw)
Kilmarnock - MVP #5: 25k (WwD)
Following on from player names blogs....
does anyone now look for their sesl teams results of real life team?
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 47:
Dumbarton - MVP #5: 25k (WWd)
Elgin City - MVP #8: 25k (WdW)
Brechin City - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Partick Thistle - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wDW)
Edinburgh City - MVP #7: 25k (WWw)
Aston Villa 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Brentford 2-3 Chelsea
Crystal Palace 1-1 Brighton
Everton 0-1 Arsenal, already kicked off
Fulham 0-2 Liverpool
Ipswich Town 0-2 Wolves
Leicester City 1-2 Newcastle
Man United 2-1 Man City
Tottenham 3-0 Southampton
West Ham 2-1 Bournemouth
Where possible I try for real names for my team, but on occasions I've had themes -comedians, old players names, fruits etc. in OASL I'd make up names starting at the beginning of the alphabet - Andrew Blake, then Charlie Dickson (A, B, C, D and so on).
ps only a guess but Berwick's set up looks like an ESMS teams setup - they join initials and fore names using the _ - and Derek plays in many other games, likely a few ESMS games.
That's kinda spooky Steve ALO man-marking same player names at different clubs this weekend.
I am surprised more clubs don't have more player names relating to their real life team.
Not a criticism, but STE I noted have several players named after countries. COW after golfer names which is a decent theme, while format of BER is very old-school with underscore between first initial and surname that is quite intriguing.
Aston Villa 2 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Brentford 2 - 1 Chelsea
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Brighton
Everton 0 - 3 Arsenal
Fulham 1 - 1 Liverpool
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Wolves
Leicester City 0 - 3 Newcastle
Man. United 1 - 4 Man. City
Tottenham 2 - 1 Southampton
West Ham 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Back in the day I'm sure that duplicate names weren't allowed throughout the league (I could be wrong). Auction player names were picked by Commish I believe.
I mention this because tonight I was picking which players to mark in the game (47) against Rangers. Their highest SL FWs are Dessers and Danilo. I then did my lineup for match 48 and loaded player tactics and looked at players to mark. "Something not right here as their biggest SL FWs are Dessers and Danilo." Thinking I'd got the match numbers mixed up somehow I was frantically going back and forth. Then I realised that match 48 was aganst Montrose managed by James White who I know is a Rangers fan.
I was also a little confused as to why Danilo was a FW twice when he plays in midfield for Nottingham Forest.
Don't forget to enter the penultimate round - only nine in so far
Due next Wednesday and should prove to be a cracking game INV v DEE.
And one of our long serving managers Mark Boland will be in the middle (no jokes about white sticks and who is going to hold his guide dog please..🙄🙄).
Once this Saturday's games are over, managers can look ahead to the Cup Final and put in their guesses as to the winner and any one of the scorers. Good luck - I can say that, we are not competing with each other, and Mark has the cash ready to reward the winners. 💰💰💰
I need a winner - lost 50k in the semi finals... 😢😢
HEA
Aston Villa 1 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Brentford 0 - 4 Chelsea
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Brighton
Everton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Fulham 1 - 3 Liverpool
Ipswich Town 1 - 0 Wolves
Leicester City 1 - 2 Newcastle
Man. United 1 - 1 Man. City
Tottenham 4 - 0 Southampton
West Ham 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Aston Villa 4 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Brentford 0 - 2 Chelsea
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Brighton
Everton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Fulham 0 - 3 Liverpool
Ipswich Town 1 - 0 Wolves
Leicester City 1 - 2 Newcastle
Man. United 1 - 1 Man. City
Tottenham 4 - 0 Southampton
West Ham 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Dare I ask what time deadline is for EPL predictions?
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Oops, copied and pasted, then forgot to review the predicted scores....
Aston Villa 0 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Brentford 0 - 2 Chelsea
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Brighton
Everton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Fulham 0 - 3 Liverpool
Ipswich Town 1 - 0 Wolves
Leicester City 1 - 2 Newcastle
Man. United 1 - 1 Man. City
Tottenham 4 - 0 Southampton
West Ham 1 - 1 Bournemouth
A very tight turnaround with next round starting on Saturday afternoon.
Lets see if we can get some predictions in by then
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Brentford 1 - 2 Chelsea
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Brighton
Everton 0 - 2 Arsenal
Fulham 1 - 2 Liverpool
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 Wolves
Leicester City 0 - 2 Newcastle
Man. United 1 - 2 Man. City
Tottenham 2 - 0 Southampton
West Ham 1 - 2 Bournemouth
Very tight week, with the winner only being decided in the final game tonight
BUt I managed to prevail in the end
Alon Atie 12.0
Andy Shaw 11.0
John McCarthy 10.5
David Blair 10.0
Paul Cockyne 6.5
Andrew Foss-Grant 5.5
Tight at the top of all 3 sesl divisions.
Everyone likes it tight at top, yeah?
Just 1 point separates top 2 teams in Sesl Div 1, same in Div 2, while Div 3 top 2 teams have SAME points.
Bravo.
"Betting closes 12 00 Wednesday..."
That isn't clear. 12.00 BST or 12.00 GMT? I went on Sanc Sunday to see how my game had gone and they hadn't run. It took a few moments to realise it wasn't yet 12.00 GMT. It's even worse cone October as I've got used to 1 PM kickoffs and end up NMRing. And no, I'm not saying the kickoffs should stay at 3 PM throughout the year, for a start deadlines are set by GMT so Commishes would have to check when we change and that could cause errors.
There is a countdown nearer the deadlines anyway though I'm not sure when that kicks in. So having a "deadlines is 3 hours before kick off" makes perfect sense to me. I'm not sure why folk seem to be having a go at Andy. Like many of us he has a life outside of SESL. And he's Commish of OASL which is in pre-season.
Betting closes 12:00 Wed 2nd April 2025
45 match deadlines so far this season had kicked off 15:00 hrs
15 minus 12 is 3 hours. (Today was 4 hours different.)
At 14:15 the MOT bet is said not to have been made when betting was closed.
Is it fair to say MOT submitted bet over 2 hours and 15 minutes late?
What time did you place MOT bet?
And you knew you were more than 2 hours late.
You were likely sleeping at 12 noon UK time as you suggest you live abroad.
You are frustrated you never placed bet earlier in week.
Had your bet lost today this maybe wouldn't be an issue.
You will have last laugh when you lift Div 1 title in a couple of weeks (kick off 15:00 GMT)
10 goals MOT have scored vs ARB this season in the league, and conceeded just 1 goal.
Focus on that positive Andy.
Your blog highlights the exact issue. It is hard to track what time kickoff is from abroad since our clocks changing do not mirror GMT. Knowing when deadlines change from being shorter and longer is hard to do. I am suggesting that, since we have a big clock before matches that counts down the time until kickoff...that we use that clock. Makes it much easier when it reads "predictions due 3 hours before kickoff" than needing to go to Google and do time zone conversions every week.
I am not looking for sympathy or credit for betting. I am requesting a small tweak to the format that hurts nobody while helping those of us not on UK time.
Front page states at poll bet area :-
"Betting closes 12:00 Wed 2nd April 2025
when 50k deducted from each team betting"
Matches are always 3pm. Ironically 4pm today UK.
Sympathy Andrew, but you had 6 days to bet but waited until after 2.15pm today. It's a shame, but this occasion it's on you buddy, sorry.
Sorry, gents. I think you are both misunderstanding my blog - I'm not asking for my bet to be counted. I'm asking for the deadline to be clarified for people who are not on UK time.
Mark asked me to cover some weeks for him, and asked if I'd wait till at least 1 hour AFTER the noon deadline to allow for some overseas differences.
Dave is right that entries are NOT time stamped so an entry needs to be put in at some point to close off entries.
I closed it off today around 2-15pm.
Problem is we can't wait till 3-59pm (minute before the game started) as monies should be deducted BEFORE the start of play - and you can't expect Mark to sit with a stop watch.
I sympathise with Andy but the noon deadline (and if you are on GMT you get an extra hour) is clear for all and other managers would spot an entry AFTER the closure.
Sorry, Andy. 😟
Issue came up once before and problem was bets are not time stamped. Therefore there is no audit trail when MOT placed bet. Someone could bet a minute after the match is played and unless adjudicator was online nearly constantly to monitor how would they know.
The bet money was deducted 3.30pm UK time per blog (no idea if that GMT or an hour out). Either way, MOT posted after David Blairs "no more betting message" on poll vote page therefore it may be assumed you were a few hours after the 12 noon deadline.
Perhaps. Presumed. No one is sure. But almost certainly after the published deadline.
Team xP
MOT 66,4
FRA 47,7
ARB 46,1
CLY 42,3
STE 37,7
DEE 36,3
SRA 35,7
DUM 35,5
COW 34,5
LIV 34,5
HAM 32,9
HEA 30,9
RR 30,4
CB 24,1
CEL 18,9
STJ 17,4
The big (and only) news is FRA now claiming best of the rest #2.
Everything else basically unchanged - including the very tight middle of the pack, #5 to #13.
STJ and CEL are fighting for (against?) the wooden spoon - not that they probably care too much about it.
Team Luck
HEA +12,1
ARB +10,9
STE +6,3
STJ +4,6
LIV +4,5
HAM +4,1
DEE +3,7
COW +0,5
CLY -1,3
FRA -1,7
SRA -1,7
CB -2,1
RR -2,4
DUM -2,5
CEL -6,9
MOT -8,4
Still the same two horse race.
With just 8.8 pts between #3 and #14 actually much more balanced than expected.
Can we change the betting wording on the polls to be formatted "poll closes X hours before kickoff"? This is twice I've put in my bet over an hour before kickoff and not had it counted, and I'm not sure when 12:00 is relative to the kickoff, especially with time changes. I usually can get bets in the day before, but if not I'd like to still be able to bet
52 Celtic (D.Denaro)
53 Celtic (D.Denaro)
54 Celtic (B.Nicholl)
55 St Johnstone (M.Creasey)
56 St Johnstone (M.Creasey)
57 Clyde (R.Cini)
I ignored 57!! Sorry........
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through SESL Cup Tie ARB v INV 2/4/2025:
ANN(150) ARB(50) COW(50) DEV(150) DUM(150) DEE(50) DUU(50) EDI(50) ELG(50) FRA(50) HEA(150) INV(150) LIV(150) PT(150) SRA(50)
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through SESL Cup tie ARB v INV 2/4/25:
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) ARB(-50) COW(-50) DEV(-50) DUM(-50) DEE(-50) DUU(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) FRA(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) INV(-50) LIV(-50) PT(-50) SRA(-50)
Maybe an April Fool or an in-joke from Andrew, but I don't follow the "winners from the last 5 seasons doomed at foot of Div 1"
Intrigued what has caused my brain fart?
CLY are 6th, HEA 5th, ARB 2nd. Doomed?
Granted STJ and CEL having a horlicks of a sad season.
Interesting that all the winners from the last 5 seasons are looking doomed at the bottom of Div One. Is it something about winning the title perhaps? Fortunately, SRA will never have to worry about this rather difficult side effect of being the best.
Tm Jk JDs
ARB 11 6
LIV 9 6
HEA 8 6
STJ 7 6
COW 7 4
CLY 6 3
SRA 6 2
DEE 6 1
FRA 6 0
MOT 5 1
STE 4 0
HAM 3 2
CB 3 1
RR 3 0
DUM 2 2
CEL 2 2
A disappointing week for leader ARB - no junk played at all.
With 2 weeks to go they even have to manage a last ditch effort by this week's double junk winner LIV.
Only the top 5 now with a (theoretical) chance to win the trophy.
Thanks for the warning - when is it?? 😉😉
I think games stay at 3pm but could be wrong - I know they were kept at 3pm recently but that was to help with reviews, and there aren't any of them now.
Just need to check the top of the page after tomorrow's fixtures - that'll tell you.
An extra hour to get orders in! Hooray!!
In the UK games kick off at 4 PM (and 5 PM Saturday).
With clock change in UK yesterday, how does that affect Sesl match kick offs?
2pm in real time? 4pm maybe?
Or still 3pm? 🤔
I laughed out loud to your last sentence!
Hope you on the mend soon Paul.
You can thank a splendid spreadsheet (thanks, Alan) and my ill health for the speed of the PL reports.
About a month or so ago I woke up with double vision and although it is improving I still can't drive, so am spending much time at home. I used to watch Winchester FC of a Saturday afternoon, but seeind one version of them is quite enough, seeing two would be extremely depressing.
Impressed at speed results were posted
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The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 45:
Motherwell - MVP #7: 25k (WDw)
Livingston - MVP #6: 25k (Wwd)
Albion Rovers - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWW)
Falkirk - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 8 29/3/25:
HEA(100)
Round 8 of the prediction league was a low-scoring affair, with an average score of 3.92 from 24 entries. Stranraer's win at Arbroath was only predicted by two managers, and the draw between Clydebank and Dumbarton by three. At the other end of the scale, everyone expected Fraserburgh to beat Raith Rovers, with seven managers picking this as their banker.
There was a lone winner this week, Dave at Hearts netting the 100k for his six points.
It's looking like a two-horse race between Dundee and East Fife at this stage. We'll be dropping the lowest score next week - but both the leaders have a three to drop so it could be very tight.
Next Saturday we move to Division 2 for the penultimate round. I will post the entry form on the Notebook shortly.
Prediction | ARB v SRA | MOT v STJ | HEA v STE | FRA v RR | DEE v LIV | CLY v HAM | CB v DUM | CEL v COW |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 88% | 75% | 38% | 100% | 54% | 54% | 29% | 8% |
Away | 8% | 4% | 50% | 0% | 29% | 29% | 58% | 83% |
Draw | 4% | 21% | 13% | 0% | 17% | 17% | 13% | 8% |
Banker Count | 21% | 25% | 4% | 29% | 8% | 0% | 4% | 4% |
Result | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 2 |
Round 8 Scores | |
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Team | Points |
Hearts | 6 |
Dundee | 5 |
East Fife | 5 |
Forfar | 5 |
Livingston | 5 |
Partick Thistle | 5 |
Alloa | 4 |
Arbroath | 4 |
Brechin | 4 |
Cowdenbeath | 4 |
Edinburgh | 4 |
Elgin City | 4 |
Motherwell | 4 |
Nairn | 4 |
Queens Park | 4 |
Ross County | 4 |
Ayr | 3 |
Dumbarton | 3 |
East Stirlingshire | 3 |
Hibernian | 3 |
St Johnstone | 3 |
Stirling | 3 |
Stranraer | 3 |
Stenhousemuir | 2 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | D1 44 | Special | |||
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Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R8 | R7 | Total |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 47 |
2 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 45 |
3 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 40 |
3 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 40 |
5 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 39 |
6 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 38 |
7 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 37 |
7 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 6 | 37 |
7 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 37 |
10 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 36 |
11 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 33 | |
12 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 6 | 2 | 32 |
13 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 31 | |
13 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 31 | |
13 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 31 | |
16 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 30 | |
17 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 29 | |
17 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 29 | |
19 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 28 | |
20 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 27 | |
20 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 27 | ||
20 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 27 | |
23 | Ayr United | 5 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 26 | ||
24 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 25 | |
25 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 24 | ||
26 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 23 | ||
27 | Dumbarton | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 17 | ||||
27 | Forfar | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 17 | ||||
29 | Brechin City | 3 | 4 | 7 | ||||||
29 | Dunfermline | 4 | 3 | 7 | ||||||
31 | Albion | 3 | 3 | |||||||
6.16 | 3.36 | 5.00 | 5.29 | 4.19 | 3.61 | 3.92 | 3.92 |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 44:
Peterhead - MVP #4: 1 CP (wwD)
Hibernian - MVP #5: 25k (WwD)
East Fife - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWd)
Saint Mirren - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWd)
Bournemouth 2-1 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 3-0 Fulham
Brighton 1-1 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 2-1 Man United
Wolves 1-1 West Ham
Chelsea 3-2 Tottenham
Man City 2-0 Leicester City
Newcastle 1-1 Brentford
Southampton 1-1 Crystal Palace
Liverpool 2 - 0 Everton
When I inherited the prediction league it was a rule and we kept it for a long time. And then I think Roy raised it one season and there was a unaniomous agreement that if you throw a PL game you are missing the point completely, hence it was removed.
I've certainly done it a time or two since the rule was changed. Have even bet on myself to lose, knowing we needed to rest players...and then lost that prediction while managing a draw anyway. Don't think a point or two in the prediction league is worth risking a blowout or anything of the sort, so I doubt anyone would truly abuse the system. Even if they did, I'm not sure I'd lose much sleep over it. The game already works on an honor system that nobody is playing while throwing matches for their mates whenever they face each other. No use solving a problem that doesn't exist, in my opinion. If it becomes a problem, can always be re-evaluated then
Betting on one's own team. That was the rule but I'm glad it was changed, as it was silly to have to vote for your own team when it was obvious you couldn't gain a point. I like the current set up - even voted for my team to draw or lose and have no problem other clubs seeing how I see the game going. 💰💰
The current rule is of course open to abuse but hopefully no manager would stoop so low as to chuck a match to win the PL
I do check when manager's teams are up for prediction which way they go.
But yes I was happy when the rule changed. A couple of years ago Stewart at Rangers was flying high in division one and my Stirling were struggling. I reckon I lost about 5 points in the prediction league that season saying Stirling were going to win whereas Stewart's Rangers won most of their games and the prediction league.
Betting on one's own team. That was the rule but I'm glad it was changed, as it was silly to have to vote for your own team when it was obvious you couldn't gain a point. I like the current set up - even voted for my team to draw or lose and have no problem other clubs seeing how I see the game going. 💰💰
A reminder that the PL runs tomorrow, only 8 entrants so far.
And Cameron, there used to be a rule that you had to predict your own team to win. Not sure when or why this was changed. I don't think the current rule has ever been abused, though.
Curious at this rule.
Not a complaint.
Has there ever been concern a team flung a match for prediction point, or two? Highly unlikely .
HEA sends 905k, 10 TP to PT for Alan Rough (0/17 GK)
HEA sends Craig Gordon (5/19 GK) to DFA for 130k
CEL sends 400k, 15 TP, Andy Robertson (5/7 DF) to BRE for Lewis Martin (0/20 SD)
CEL sends 3 TP to EDI for 270k
PET sends 200k to CEL for 2 TP
Team | xP |
MOT | 60,8 |
ARB | 45,9 |
FRA | 42,9 |
CLY | 39,6 |
DEE | 36,1 |
STE | 33,7 |
COW | 32,4 |
DUM | 32,0 |
SRA | 31,7 |
HAM | 29,4 |
LIV | 28,9 |
HEA | 28,5 |
RR | 28,3 |
CB | 22,0 |
CEL | 18,1 |
STJ | 16,6 |
The top ranks seem to consolidate.
Still a very tight race between #6 and #13 with just 5 pts between them.
Team | Luck |
HEA | +11,5 |
ARB | +11,1 |
STE | +7,3 |
HAM | +4,6 |
LIV | +4,1 |
DEE | +3,9 |
STJ | +3,4 |
COW | -0,4 |
FRA | -0,9 |
CB | -1,0 |
CLY | -1,6 |
DUM | -3,0 |
RR | -3,3 |
SRA | -3,7 |
CEL | -6,1 |
MOT | -6,8 |
HEA back at the top - after ARB was slightly unlucky vs STE.
The MOT-ARB gap is closing, now only 17.9 pts.
I've occasionally mentioned that the luck and xP table calculations are static.
The main problem is that I have no access to the actual orders, e.g. I do not know if substitutions are conditional or fixed.
Therefore - as discussed recently - "bench strength" is not accounted correctly.
Sample HEA vs DUM:
Until min 60 easily dominated by DUM, 3-0 lead at 3.0-1.6 xG.
But in min 60 DUM went into Stall with their SL3 GK.
2 ways to count this:
- planned switch => massive advantages for HEA in the remaining 30 mins, thus 1.2 xP both
- conditional switch at 3 goal lead => 2.0 xP for DUM, since they would not have switched if not leading big
I chose variant 2, but this case shows the problems and limits of this approach.
Team | Junk | JDs |
ARB | 11 | 6 |
LIV | 7 | 6 |
HEA | 7 | 6 |
STJ | 7 | 6 |
COW | 7 | 4 |
SRA | 6 | 2 |
DEE | 6 | 1 |
FRA | 6 | 0 |
CLY | 5 | 2 |
MOT | 5 | 1 |
STE | 4 | 0 |
CEL | 2 | 2 |
HAM | 2 | 1 |
RR | 2 | 0 |
CB | 2 | 0 |
DUM | 1 | 1 |
It's lonely at the top. ARB may even be disappointed this week - they faced only one 30+% lineup.
The distribution is developing towards a bathtub curve. Most teams are by now either in the "get junk" or "get no junk" bucket.
Bournemouth 3 - 1 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 2 - 1 Fulham
Brighton 2 - 2 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 2 - 0 Man. United
Wolves 1 - 1 West Ham
Chelsea 1 - 1 Tottenham
Man. City 5 - 1 Leicester City
Newcastle 2 - 1 Brentford
Southampton 1 - 3 Crystal Palace
Liverpool 2 - 1 Everton
RR sends 375k to EST for 4 TP
RAN sends 2 CP to EST for 2 TP
"Reminder: trade window closes 28 March 2025"
who is buying?
who is selling?
Bournemouth 1 - 0 Ipswich Town Arsenal 2 - 0 Fulham Brighton 2 - 1 Aston Villa Notting For 0 - 1 Man. United Wolves 1 - 0 West Ham Chelsea 2 - 1 Tottenham Man. City 4 - 0 Leicester City Newcastle 2 - 2 Brentford Southampton 1 - 1 Crystal Palace Liverpool 4 - 0 Everton
Bournemouth 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 2 - 0 Fulham
Brighton 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 0 - 0 Man. United
Wolves 1 - 1 West Ham
Chelsea 2 - 1 Tottenham
Man. City 4 - 0 Leicester City
Newcastle 0 - 2 Brentford
Southampton 1 - 3 Crystal Palace
Liverpool 2 - 1 Everton
Bournemouth 3 - 1 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 2 - 1 Fulham
Brighton 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Man. United
Wolves 1 - 3 West Ham
Chelsea 2 - 0 Tottenham
Man. City 4 - 1 Leicester City
Newcastle 1 - 1 Brentford
Southampton 0 - 3 Crystal Palace
Liverpool 3 - 1 Everton
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through Guessing winner in SESL Cup tie DEE v DUM 25th March:
DEV(100) DEE(100) DUU(100) EDI(100) ELG(100) FAL(100) HIB(100) KIL(100) MOT(100)
Predictios for next midweek league games.
We are still currently completing the international break and then we have FA cup games this weekend.
But from next Tuesday round 30 of the league begins.
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 2 - 0 Fulham
Brighton 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Man. United
Wolves 2 - 1 West Ham
Chelsea 2 - 1 Tottenham
Man. City 3 - 0 Leicester City
Newcastle 2 - 1 Brentford
Southampton 0 - 2 Crystal Palace
Liverpool 2 - 0 Everton
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through SESL Cup Tie DEE v DUM 26th March:
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) COW(-50) DEV(-50) DUM(-50) DEE(-50) DUU(-50) EF(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) FRA(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) INV(-50) KIL(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) PT(-50) SRA(-50)
STI sends 100k to STE for Jorrel Hato (5/9 DF), Cambodia (6/10 MF)
MOT sends 1 TP to SRA for 95k
STI sends 1 TP to MOT for Sean OHannigain (6/14 FW)
MOT sends 190k to EST for 2 TP
please feel free to make an offer. happy to swap for CP
.....have asked CEL but no response so far........price might go down by Friday!!
Try CEL Stephen.
They probably need shift 10 TP before Friday, or when pre season TP allocated CEL may lose anything above 10 TP left at season end (due to maximum 50 rule)
Anyone got 2 TP to sell?
Roll up roll up
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Bonus Thru Mar 23rd:
ALO(10) AYR(25) COW(5) DUM(20) DEE(50) EF(50) EDI(30) FAL(20) HIB(25) LIV(10) MOT(50) PT(10) QP(20) ROS(20) STE(20) SRA(40)
ROS sends 3 TP to MOT for 280k
Delighted with the win, money is burning a whole in our pocket keen to spend it on some lovely CP if anyone has some spare?
ALB sends 2 TP to RAN for 2 CP
SRAs long queue of debtors were kept from the doors on Sunday with the emergency $33k payment for winning the predictions. Monday morning we find that the Wolves have returned overnight and are baying outside the corrigated iron gates howling for $$$. We have already sold the grass cuttings (currently our only growing income) and press ganged the ground staff to sea (working the ferry). Utter dispair.....it looks like even the Chairman's Roller will have to be auctioned......
No more errors, please! I'm losing points by the day as my score moves unstoppably towards zero.
Leons Deveronvale flying the flag for Division 3 here.
GL mate.
Thanks to Alan at COW for pointing this out....prize money for the "non-drop" round is 200k, lucky old Nairn!
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 7 (200k prize):
NAI(100)
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 7 22/3/25:
EF(-33) HIB(-33) NAI(100) SRA(-33)
Thanks to William at EDI, here are the corrected results (PET v INV was a draw). It would be nice to think that there are now no mistakes but do point them out if you see any and want me to despise you forever.
Nairn become the overall winners, congratulations to Richard who earns 100k, I'll reverse the prze money allocated incorreectly
Prediction | FRA v COW | PET v INV | MON v GM | ALO v AI | AYR v SM | ROS v KIL | EST v DFA | DEV v BER |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 96% | 48% | 28% | 56% | 32% | 48% | 72% | 96% |
Away | 0% | 28% | 68% | 24% | 56% | 40% | 24% | 0% |
Draw | 4% | 24% | 4% | 20% | 12% | 12% | 4% | 4% |
Banker Count | 12% | 0% | 8% | 4% | 8% | 0% | 4% | 60% |
Result | 1 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 |
Special | ||||||||||||
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D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | Lge 41 | Round 7 Scores | |||||
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R7 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 42 | Nairn | 6 | |
2 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 40 | Ayr United | 5 | |
3 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 37 | East Fife | 5 | |
3 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 37 | Edinburgh | 5 | |
5 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 35 | Hibernian | 5 | |
5 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 35 | Stenhousemuir | 5 | |
7 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 34 | Stirling | 5 | |
8 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 33 | Stranraer | 5 | |
8 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 33 | Annan | 4 | |
10 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 32 | Deveronvale | 4 | |
11 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 31 | Dundee | 4 | |
12 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 29 | Elgin City | 4 | |
12 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 29 | Falkirk | 4 | ||
14 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 27 | Inverness | 4 | ||
14 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 27 | Partick THistle | 4 | ||
16 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 26 | Ross County | 4 | |
16 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 26 | Cowdenbeath | 3 | ||
16 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 26 | East Stirlingshire | 3 | ||
19 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 25 | Forfar | 3 | |
19 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 25 | Livingston | 3 | ||
19 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 25 | Motherwell | 3 | ||
22 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 24 | Queens Park | 3 | ||
22 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 24 | St Johnstone | 3 | ||
24 | Ayr United | 5 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 23 | Arbroath | 2 | |||
24 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 23 | Hearts | 2 | ||
26 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 19 | |||||
27 | Dumbarton | 5 | 5 | 4 | 14 | |||||||
28 | Forfar | 4 | 5 | 3 | 12 | |||||||
29 | Dunfermline | 4 | 3 | 7 | ||||||||
30 | Albion | 3 | 3 | |||||||||
30 | Brechin City | 3 | 3 | |||||||||
6.16 | 3.36 | 5.00 | 5.29 | 4.19 | 3.61 | 3.88 |
Thanks to William at EDI who has pointed out an error I've made in the Round 7 results. I'll be posting a corrected version shortly
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 7 22/3/25:
EF(33) HIB(33) SRA(33)
BRE sends Mawuli Mensah (4/21 MF) to AI for 4 TP
LIV sends John Lennon (4/7 DF), Lewis Ferguson (4/16 MF) to AI for 3 TP
There were 25 entries for the "can't drop" round, and a couple of easy matches in there - home wins for Fraserburgh and Deveronvale both predicted by 96% of entrants, accounting for 72% of banker selection. The other matches were much trickier, with a couple of draws to make life difficult.
Three teams managed six points, so that's 33k each to Paul at East Fife, David at Hibs and Andrew at Stranraer.
Round 8 is next Saturday and I will be posting fixtures on the Notebook very soon.
Prediction | FRA v COW | PET v INV | MON v GM | ALO v AI | AYR v SM | ROS v KIL | EST v DFA | DEV v BER |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 96% | 48% | 28% | 56% | 32% | 48% | 72% | 96% |
Away | 0% | 28% | 68% | 24% | 56% | 40% | 24% | 0% |
Draw | 4% | 24% | 4% | 20% | 12% | 12% | 4% | 4% |
Banker Count | 12% | 0% | 8% | 4% | 8% | 0% | 4% | 60% |
Result | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 |
Special | ||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | Lge 41 | Round 7 Scores | |||||
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R7 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 43 | East Fife | 6 | |
2 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 41 | Hibernian | 6 | |
3 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 38 | Stranraer | 6 | |
4 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 36 | Annan | 5 | |
4 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 36 | Ayr United | 5 | |
6 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 35 | Dundee | 5 | |
6 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 35 | Inverness | 5 | |
8 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 33 | Nairn | 5 | |
9 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 32 | Partick THistle | 5 | |
10 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 31 | Stenhousemuir | 5 | |
11 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 6 | 4 | 5 | 30 | Cowdenbeath | 4 | |
11 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 30 | East Stirlingshire | 4 | |
13 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 29 | Edinburgh | 4 | ||
14 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 28 | Motherwell | 4 | ||
15 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 27 | Ross County | 4 | |
15 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 27 | St Johnstone | 4 | ||
17 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 26 | Stirling | 4 | ||
17 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 26 | Deveronvale | 3 | ||
17 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 26 | Elgin City | 3 | ||
17 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 26 | Falkirk | 3 | ||
21 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 25 | Forfar | 3 | ||
22 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 24 | Hearts | 3 | |
22 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 24 | Livingston | 3 | ||
24 | Ayr United | 5 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 23 | Queens Park | 3 | |||
24 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 23 | Arbroath | 2 | ||
26 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 19 | |||||
27 | Dumbarton | 5 | 5 | 4 | 14 | |||||||
28 | Forfar | 4 | 5 | 3 | 12 | |||||||
29 | Dunfermline | 4 | 3 | 7 | ||||||||
30 | Albion | 3 | 3 | |||||||||
30 | Brechin City | 3 | 3 | |||||||||
6.16 | 3.36 | 5.00 | 5.29 | 4.19 | 3.61 | 4.08 |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 42:
Dundee FC - MVP #8: 25k (wDW)
Clydebank - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwD)
Elgin City - MVP #7: 25k (dWw)
Edinburgh City - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
If you ever feel hard done by, like I did today, then take a look at STI vs QP.
0.7 and 0.8 percent shot chance for QP, who were stalling, produced 3 shots and an offside.
9.5 and lower percent for STI did produce 7 shots but 3 of them went to their worst MF so they only got 4 on target.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 41:
Livingston - MVP #5: 25k (wwW)
Motherwell - MVP #6: 25k (WdW)
Dumbarton - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWW)
Albion Rovers - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
Partick Thistle - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Deveronvale - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
This is your final reminder, unless it posts twice. Only seven entries so far.
The following teams receive Physio Boost through :
AYR(-80) COW(-80)
Team | xP |
MOT | 56,0 |
ARB | 41,1 |
FRA | 39,4 |
CLY | 36,9 |
DEE | 30,5 |
COW | 30,3 |
STE | 30,2 |
DUM | 29,9 |
SRA | 29,6 |
LIV | 27,5 |
HAM | 27,3 |
RR | 26,9 |
HEA | 25,8 |
CB | 20,6 |
CEL | 16,0 |
STJ | 14,5 |
The boring table 1st.
Everybody's darling ARB gets 2 gifted wins and can't help rising to #2.
MOT still somewhere else, and after their recent signings, and without any cup diversions, they are bound to stay at #1 - at least here.
Team | Luck |
ARB | +12,9 |
HEA | +11,2 |
DEE | +5,5 |
STE | +4,8 |
STJ | +4,5 |
HAM | +3,7 |
LIV | +2,5 |
CLY | +1,1 |
FRA | -0,4 |
COW | -1,3 |
SRA | -1,6 |
RR | -2,9 |
DUM | -3,9 |
CEL | -5,0 |
CB | -5,6 |
MOT | -8,0 |
The more interesting table.
ARB and HEA still in a very tight race for the clever management award.
Everyone else within reasonable variance, everyone but MOT.
The important MOT-ARB luck gap has reached 20.9 LPs by now!
Add to this ARB's junk played advantages, and you almost can't help feeling pity with MOT.
That's a reminder
MOT sends 190k to STE for 2 TP
QP sends 60k to STE for Kenya (5/10 DF)
COW sends 30k to STE for Scott Robinson (5/8 DF)
2nd week I have gone for a side whose heart wasn't really in it - but on each occasion I managed to get back my stake money.
Sorry, John, but you didn't even get THAT back - but I will say no more than that.... :-)
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through Error in payout. Did not select winning team. :
DEE(-100)
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through 19th March QOS v DEV:
ALB(150) ANN(150) DEV(150) DEE(150) EF(150) EDI(150) ELG(150) FAL(150) FRA(100) HIB(50) INV(150) MOT(150) SRA(150)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 40:
Arbroath - MVP #7: 25k (wwW)
Thanks for clarifying David.
Waiting on windfall !
Although quite a spread of who is backing which team, and would need a 9 goal thriller if majority to win on anytime goalscorer bet.
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through 19th March QOS v DEV :
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) ARB(-50) COW(-50) DEV(-50) DEE(-50) DFA(-50) EF(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) FRA(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) INV(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) PT(-50) SRA(-50)
Entries now closed - Daniel (DFA) is the last entry (1-05pm GMT).
SRA sends 1 TP to RAN for 1 CP
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Mar 16th:
ALB(10) ALO(25) ARB(10) COV(15) DUM(10) DEE(50) EF(20) EST(10) EDI(20) FAL(25) FRA(20) HIB(50) LIV(20) MOT(50) PT(5) ROS(20) SRA(20)
I do believe Steve @ ALLOA used BC very positively not so long ago. It does require a tremendous midfield, and he did - even to the point that 1 x FW was sufficient in most games. There was another lad who used it too, with equal effect - both teams scored at will - one reason I never name any of my keepers Will. :-)
PS Still don't understand this "junk" league table or what it is about - but it's for the 1st division teams so I am guessing 32 of us aren't fussed about it either. So I agree with Eduard's (DEE) summing up of the situation..
Although i see a 1 match session (Raymond's Post) is available at +8EL. Can i have that over the 1 match session please.
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Thanks to those who have posted a reply to the magic sponge.
Can i have Marco Rus Magic Sponge for a 2 Match session please.
Thanks to those who have posted a reply to the magic sponge.
Can i have Marco Rus Magic Sponge for a 2 Match session please.
My long departed Grandfather always told me to judge a teams strength by who is on the bench not who is on the field........I think this was an SRA record in the Junk match against CEL!
BENCH
Ps Name SL A Gl Sh El
GK Krawl Ruthtowner 30 n 0 0 7
DF Magjust Lekburn 30 n 0 0 6
WG Ismaning Ghench 34 n 0 0 5
FW Xian Carbon 34 n 0 0 5
FW Mondo Polestar 30 n 0 0 5
I'm actually surprised that no one asked this question before.
As in real life, there are many kinds of junk, as ...
- any lineup with less than 50% of total SL, simply because you could have done better AND risk a blowout fine
- lineups between 50% and 60%, given certain junk factors (especially passive play and / or weak GK)
- any other lineup, which is obviously junk: given enough suspensions and injuries even a 100% lineup can be complete junk!
Shortly, anything I consider junk enough is considered junk.
Quite likely, almost everybody would consider some lineups junk I wouldn't and vice versa.
Do I care? Not at all.
Let's look at SRA-CEL.
Both teams at <49% total SL, so: junk vs junk.
SRA's lineup was obviously sufficient, and you did get 2.8 xP for the luck table, BUT this could have gone much differently if CEL had played differently.
SRA's attack line was certainly solid, but if you look e.g. at another junk lineup, DEE at FRA: a junk lineup can even consist of 4 29+ playe
The Clever Management and Junk stats are excellent. However, I don't understand how the following SRA team with this forward line got labelled as junk?
WG Ismaning 35 FW Xian Carbon 34 FW Mondo Polestar 30
....and not surprisingly we won?
Wednesday cup game
"1 game session also +8EL at 80k.
Manager must post on Blog his wish to use ‚ Pysio Boost‚ on 1 specified player BEFORE that weeks session kicks off"
Team Junk JDs
ARB 10 5
COW 7 4
LIV 6 5
HEA 6 5
STJ 6 5
SRA 6 2
CLY 5 2
DEE 5 1
FRA 5 0
MOT 4 1
STE 3 0
CEL 2 2
HAM 2 1
RR 2 0
CB 2 0
DUM 1 1
Two big winners this week, both scoring 2 junks against this week.
The obvious, ARB, seems to be everybody's darling by now, facing 30+% lineups twice.
About everyone throws his junk against them, allowing for some easy points - and maybe even an unexpectable championship.
The surprising, though, is CEL.
After 20 matches without seeing any junk against, they now play two of two.
The result is a meteoric rise up to #12 in the table.
For Ludvig Aberg
I have recently played two teams who have squads that are perfect for Ball Control. Given that DUM are always Early Cross - SPOILER - it seemed the obvious tactic to deploy against DUM. Those two teams have still played BC 0%.
Does anyone use this tactic anymore?
Yes Paul.
40k for a one match session and 80k for 2. Marcus Rus qualifies as he is under -8 EL. One match session for an extra 4 EL and two match session for an extra 8 EL.
Is the Magic Sponge still a thing? I have tried opening the rules but the page doesn't open. Does anyone have the details of the Magic Sponge?
.....I can't believe I've just put all the SRA funds into backing a team with no Goalie or Captain in the next round of the cup.......stupid is as stupid does......
🎵 I traded one CP for one TP, dee dee ran ran ran, dee dee ran ran.
DEE sends 1 TP to RAN for 1 CP
DEE sends 1 TP to RAN for 1 CP
Roll up, roll up.
⚽️
LIV sends 480k to ABE for 5 TP
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 39:
Fraserburgh - MVP #5: 25k (dWW)
Nairn County - MVP #4: 1 CP (WWw)
Stirling - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 38:
Clyde FC - MVP #4: 1 CP (wdW)
Elgin City - MVP #6: 25k (WDW)
I intend to stand down as manager of Cove Rangers at the end of the season, or earlier if a replacement can be found.
The next round of the Prediction League is due to take place this Wednesday but as Mark hasn't had a chance to post the fixtures yet, I have decided to delay the round until Saturday 22nd March.
The eight fixtures have been chosen at random, and can be seen on the Notebook.
As this round replaces the undroppable SESL Cup round, it will be undroppable, so your final score in the PL will be made up of this special round plus your best seven of the other nine rounds.
Hope this is clear, if not, please shout up.
NAI sends 1 TP to MOT for 100k
Bournemouth 2-1 Brentford
Arsenal 2-0 Chelsea
Everton 1-1 West Ham
Fulham 2-1 Tottenham
Ipswich Town 1-3 Nottingham Forest
Leicester City 1-2 Man United
Man City 2-1 Brighton
Southampton 1-1 Wolves
Liverpool 1-2 Newcastle
EDI sends 1 CP to DEE for 15k, 1 TP
The HFA didn't have much relevance for the match outcome: 4.1-1.6 neutral pitch turned into 4.6-1.3, both well into 90%+ territory for FRA.
Assuming, of course, that FRA's 2nd half Stall was conditional on a 2 goal lead.
COV were - as mentioned already - somewhat lucky in the shot allocation numbers, but had no serious chance of winning.
Nonetheless, COV were robbed of some small % chances to go further. So I'd suggest some compensation money, maybe 100k.
The hilarious suspensions by ref Atie are a nice joke only.
Especially given that one is a "free" suspension and COV loses effectively only 2 match-ELs, I don't think they have to be handled manually.
If COV gets compensated in cash, we should just keep the suspensions - to avoid unnecessary issues for little gain.
That is hilarious that FRA reffed the controversial match today.
I agree with Steve T to scrub the COV yellow cards handed out by that corrupt ref today 😊
The fact that Alon Atie reffed the game and was the manager of FRA is I think as a good reason as any for Cov yellow cards to be rescinded.
Did Rangers just get liquidated today?
Can we set up a go fund me page or buy a brick campaign!
MOT sends 90k to FRA for 1 TP
I'm not sure the home advantage did a lot (might work it out later if no one else does). 15 more OFF is a 6% increase and 15 DEF about a 15% increase. But COV got more shots than expected anyway. Alon stalled at half time due to the score and his side was much better so likely to win anyway.
But what I think should happen is a manual reset on the yellow cards if possible. Two COV players were booked and both are now suspended and it was a Homer ref. There's no way to know if they would have been booked anyway but it's possible.
Team | xP |
MOT | 50,4 |
ARB | 35,5 |
FRA | 34,6 |
CLY | 33,7 |
COW | 29,5 |
DEE | 29,2 |
DUM | 27,8 |
STE | 26,7 |
SRA | 26,1 |
RR | 26,1 |
LIV | 25,4 |
HAM | 22,5 |
HEA | 22,3 |
CB | 19,8 |
CEL | 15,8 |
STJ | 12,4 |
ARB regain #2, but it's still rather tight between #2 and #12.
Much more interesting ...
Team | Luck |
HEA | +13,7 |
ARB | +12,5 |
DEE | +5,8 |
STE | +5,3 |
STJ | +3,6 |
HAM | +2,5 |
LIV | +1,6 |
FRA | +0,4 |
CLY | +0,3 |
SRA | -1,1 |
COW | -1,5 |
RR | -2,1 |
DUM | -4,8 |
CB | -5,8 |
CEL | -5,8 |
MOT | -6,4 |
Now there's an interesting championship race - between ARB and HEA.
ARB's success here - and in the junk ranking - has even made MOT dropping the SESL cup, to have a chance at the Championship.
Nonetheless 18.9 luck difference is quite hard to overcome.
HEA though are still leaders. And deservedly so, after winning another hopeless 0.1 match vs FRA.
Team | Junk | JDs |
ARB | 8 | 4 |
COW | 6 | 3 |
LIV | 5 | 4 |
HEA | 5 | 4 |
STJ | 5 | 4 |
DEE | 5 | 1 |
SRA | 5 | 1 |
CLY | 4 | 2 |
MOT | 3 | 1 |
FRA | 3 | 0 |
HAM | 2 | 1 |
STE | 2 | 0 |
RR | 2 | 0 |
CB | 2 | 0 |
DUM | 1 | 1 |
CEL | 0 | 0 |
ARB and SRA are the big winners this week, with 2/1 each.
ARB are now the big favorites for the Clever Management Trophy, and their success here might even be quite instrumental in their success elsewhere.
Poor CEL still wait for their 1st junk opponent: 20 matches and no junk against.
Bournemouth 3-2 Brentford
Arsenal 2-1 Chelsea
Everton 1-2 West Ham
Fulham 1-1 Tottenham
Ipswich Town 1-3 Nottingham Forest
Leicester City 1-1 Man. United
Man. City 3-1 Brighton
Southampton 1-2 Wolves
Liverpool (concentrating on the league) 2-1 Newcastle
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Brentford
Arsenal 1 - 1 Chelsea
Everton 2 - 1 West Ham
Fulham 1 - 2 Tottenham
Ipswich Town 0 - 3 Nottingham Forest
Leicester City 0 - 2 Man. United
Man. City 1 - 1 Brighton
Southampton 1 - 1 Wolves
Liverpool 2-2 Newcastle
Bournemouth 3-2 Brentford
Arsenal 2-2 Chelsea
Everton 1-2 West Ham
Fulham 1-3 Tottenham
Ipswich Town 3-3 Nottingham Forest
Leicester City 0-2 Man. United
Man. City 3-1 Brighton
Southampton 1-2 Wolves
Liverpool 2-1 Newcastle
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through 12th March Rangers v Hearts:
ALB(150) ANN(150) DEV(150) DUM(150) DEE(50) EF(150) EDI(150) ELG(150) FAL(150) FRA(150) HIB(50) MOT(150) SRA(150)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 37:
Arbroath - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Falkirk - MVP #3: 1 TP (WWW)
Only 8 league games because of the Caraboa cup final
I have added the caraboa cup final as a 9th game.
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Brentford
Arsenal 2 - 0 Chelsea
Everton 2 - 1 West Ham
Fulham 2 - 1 Tottenham
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Leicester City 1 - 2 Man. United
Man. City 2 - 0 Brighton
Southampton 1 - 2 Wolves
Liverpool 2-1 Newcastle
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through 12th March:
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) ARB(-50) DEV(-50) DUM(-50) DEE(-50) DFA(-50) EF(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) FRA(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) SRA(-50)
Sounds like a manual scheduling blip.
Maybe too close to deadline to resolve today.
Hopefully COV now win so it's not a big issue. Otherwise compensation of gate receipts paid again to COV to cover loss of match revenue of a possible cup match COV never had equal chance to progress?
...are all at neutral venues, except for one.
Some mistake surely?
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Mar 9th:
ALB(10) ALO(10) DEV(20) DUM(25) DEE(50) EF(45) EST(10) EDI(20) HAM(10) HIB(45) LIV(25) MOT(20) NAI(15) ROS(20) SM(10) STE(10) SRA(10)
LIV sends 200k to ARB for 2 TP
Easy money.... or is RAN v HEA too close to gamble?
SM sends 200k, 1 CP to EDI for Owen Beck (4/17 DF)
Inspired by Matt, I tried Tripe for Tea but I just couldn't stomach it......
Matt, you could always try writing something intelligent.
Or perhaps not....
I know what your offering to mean Tyron. I only need 10k in party bonus then I can stop writing tripe for the rest of the season!
EST will go for whatever earns us 5K in party bonus...
Great work with that Sponge!
Can we go again please - Physio Boost for Ireland.
Thanks
Sorry, LMS posts to wrong game....but still expecting a massive Party Bonus, of course....
All four of you managed to survive week two, so on we go. There are only eight fixtures next weekend butas you still have plenty of choice, we'll press on, especially as there's a two-week international break coming up.
The deadline is next Saturday at 15:00. Need I mention Southampton?
TEAM | Manager | Week 1 | Week 2 |
---|---|---|---|
ACS | Turner | Newcastle | C.Palace |
AFC | Permentier | Spurs | Brighton |
ORA | Gavino | Spurs | Chelsea |
SFR | D.Fitzgerald | Brighton | Liverpool |
BIB | Bijker | Arsenal | OUT |
CAM (I,V) | Cooper | Arsenal | OUT |
CN | Barnard | Arsenal | OUT |
CPT | Legowski | So'ton | OUT |
DB (VI) | Cockayne | Arsenal | OUT |
DUB | Burnett | Fulham | OUT |
FCB (IV) | J.Fitzgerald | So'ton | OUT |
GCK | Campbell | So'ton | OUT |
GD | Creasey | So'ton | OUT |
HLR | M.White | So'ton | OUT |
ITP (II) | Williams | So'ton | OUT |
LBC | Oakes | B'mouth | OUT |
LD | Rolsten | Everton | OUT |
MM | G.Scott | So'ton | OUT |
MT | Krosnyak | Arsenal | OUT |
NHL | Lithgo | So'ton | OUT |
NJN | J.White | Arsenal | OUT |
OPT (VIII) | C.Scott | Arsenal | OUT |
PEX | Hernandez | So'ton | OUT |
PNE | Gregory | B'mouth | OUT |
SXS | Purvis | So'ton | OUT |
TNS | Lye | B'mouth | OUT |
WBB | Hull | So'ton | OUT |
YFC | Shaw | Arsenal | OUT |
Saturday 15 March
15:00 Everton v West Ham
Ipswich v Nottingham Forest
Man City v Brighton
Southampton v Wolves
17:30 AFC Bournemouth v Brentford
Sunday 16 March
13:30 Arsenal v Chelsea
13:30 Fulham v Spurs
19:00 Leicester v Man Utd
All four of you managed to survive week two, so on we go. There are only eight fixtures next weekend butas you still have plenty of choice, we'll press on, especially as there's a two-week international break coming up.
The deadline is next Saturday at 15:00. Need I mention Southampton?
TEAM | Manager | Week 1 | Week 2 |
---|---|---|---|
ACS | Turner | Newcastle | C.Palace |
AFC | Permentier | Spurs | Brighton |
ORA | Gavino | Spurs | Chelsea |
SFR | D.Fitzgerald | Brighton | Liverpool |
BIB | Bijker | Arsenal | OUT |
CAM (I,V) | Cooper | Arsenal | OUT |
CN | Barnard | Arsenal | OUT |
CPT | Legowski | So'ton | OUT |
DB (VI) | Cockayne | Arsenal | OUT |
DUB | Burnett | Fulham | OUT |
FCB (IV) | J.Fitzgerald | So'ton | OUT |
GCK | Campbell | So'ton | OUT |
GD | Creasey | So'ton | OUT |
HLR | M.White | So'ton | OUT |
ITP (II) | Williams | So'ton | OUT |
LBC | Oakes | B'mouth | OUT |
LD | Rolsten | Everton | OUT |
MM | G.Scott | So'ton | OUT |
MT | Krosnyak | Arsenal | OUT |
NHL | Lithgo | So'ton | OUT |
NJN | J.White | Arsenal | OUT |
OPT (VIII) | C.Scott | Arsenal | OUT |
PEX | Hernandez | So'ton | OUT |
PNE | Gregory | B'mouth | OUT |
SXS | Purvis | So'ton | OUT |
TNS | Lye | B'mouth | OUT |
WBB | Hull | So'ton | OUT |
YFC | Shaw | Arsenal | OUT |
Saturday 15 March
15:00 Everton v West Ham
Ipswich v Nottingham Forest
Man City v Brighton
Southampton v Wolves
17:30 AFC Bournemouth v Brentford
Sunday 16 March
13:30 Arsenal v Chelsea
13:30 Fulham v Spurs
19:00 Leicester v Man Utd
NAI sends Jack Walker (1/22 DF) to ELG for Ross Draper (0/16 DF)
i'm happy for any criticism on this one. I offered it out of the blue to Jason so all on me if the suggestion that the 6SL difference is somewhat too onesided? Don't think there been any deals this season that require any justification but im happy to provide mine if anyone is questioning this one.
FRA sends 290k to QP for 3 TP
I deal that is not one of mine getting questioned.
better do a deal quick.
120k for a 1/10 DF :-p
CB sends 120k to LIV for Willie Miller (1/10 DF)
I could've just as easily said nothing at all, but this + my previous blog will most likely secure sponsorship success, so..well...yeah... 😉
on my hands right now trying not to make a comment on the peeps not making a comment.
On the trade however. Fair deal if you ask me.
An 1/14 with 8 tp against a 0/5 with 9 tp
I know which one I would rather have on my team next season 😉
FRA sends 195k to LIV for 2 TP
RAN sends 195k to LIV for 2 TP
Official notification that DUM shall be making no comment whatsoever on LIV not making a comment.
Not a peep.
Nada.
Zilch.
Official notification that LIV shall be making no comment whatsoever on any trades today.
Not a peep.
Nada.
Zilch.
NAI sends Jack Walker (1/22 DF) to ELG for Ross Draper (0/16 DF)
The following teams receive Physio Boost through DF Ireland:
STE(-80)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 36:
Dundee FC - MVP #7: 25k (WdW)
Peterhead - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWd)
Montrose - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWD)
Deveronvale - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 35:
Livingston - MVP #4: 1 CP (WdW)
Motherwell - MVP #5: 25k (WDw)
Annan Athletic - MVP #5: 25k (wWW)
Inverness - MVP #4: 1 CP (DwW)
Ayr United - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwD)
Ross County - MVP #3: 1 TP (Wwd)
I am sorely tempted by the opportunity to pay 101k for an 8/1 winger, but so far have somehow managed to resist temptation.
I like a sense of humour like the next man, but thinking DUM and SRA are definitely having a laugh with the players they have put up for sale. To be fair John @ LIV has a few lads he wants to offload but at least they are at reasonable prices.
However if the bottom line is to put some ooomph into the transaction page, they have done it. Just don't think there will be too many takers - unless some clubs are getting close to the Robin Hood Rule that is... :-)
Much cheapness and special discount for my friends. For you though...
........can you put down SRA for Hamilton and Cobden please?
Dumbarton are GIVING AWAY players - roll up, roll up!
No reasonable offer rejected.
Good work Ed.
You are a credit to Sesl with your stats.
I'll settle for mid table this season for all stats and standings. Then push on next season.
Team | xP |
MOT | 45,6 |
FRA | 31,7 |
ARB | 31,5 |
CLY | 28,9 |
DEE | 26,5 |
COW | 26,0 |
DUM | 24,9 |
STE | 24,8 |
SRA | 23,2 |
RR | 23,2 |
LIV | 22,5 |
HEA | 22,1 |
HAM | 19,3 |
CB | 18,5 |
CEL | 14,5 |
STJ |
10,5 |
BOOORING.
MOT are somewhere far beyond. Us mortals are somewhere else.
Many thanks to the balancing rolls.
Speaking of ...
Team | Luck |
HEA | +10,9 |
ARB | +10,5 |
STE | +6,2 |
DEE | +4,5 |
STJ | +3,5 |
FRA | +3,3 |
HAM | +2,7 |
LIV | +1,5 |
CLY | +1,1 |
COW | -1,0 |
SRA | -1,2 |
RR | -2,2 |
MOT | -4,6 |
DUM | -4,9 |
CB | -5,5 |
CEL | -7,5 |
Much more action in this table.
HEA strikes back - mainly thanks to a spectacular win at RR.
ARB stays within a single match roll.
CEL remains the only really unlucky team.
The rest is within normal distribution range.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Mar 2nd:
ALB(10) ARB(35) DEV(50) DUM(50) DEE(20) EF(50) EDI(30) FAL(15) FRA(15) HEA(40) HIB(25) LIV(50) PT(25) RR(30) ROS(25) SM(35) SRA(25)
MOT sends 115k to HIB for 1 CP
MOT sends 115k to ANN for 1 CP
Team | Junk | JDs |
ARB | 6 | 3 |
COW | 6 | 3 |
LIV | 5 | 4 |
HEA | 5 | 4 |
STJ | 5 | 4 |
DEE | 5 | 1 |
MOT | 3 | 1 |
CLY | 3 | 1 |
FRA | 3 | 0 |
SRA | 3 | 0 |
RR | 2 | 0 |
CB | 2 | 0 |
DUM | 1 | 1 |
STE | 1 | 0 |
HAM | 1 | 0 |
CEL | 0 | 0 |
Still quite unremarkable results.
Rather low numbers of junk lineups, and no clearly favored clever manager in sight.
6 teams within reach of the top - remarkably not MOT yet.
DEV sends 220k to HIB for 2 CP
Is there any way of checking what bids we actually submitted?
Auction 8 Lot 10 It shows we bid 0 for 8 CP (as did Stenny!) - However I was fairly sure I'd made a fairly decent bid knowing that we were fairly comfortable for cash... even after picking up a couple of experienced players to bolster the squad
PET sends 100k to SRA for 1 TP
PET sends 100k to COW for 1 TP
FRA sends 100k to CLY for 1 TP
I really enjoyed the chain of messages below. Its great to see people give a crap about the game, its why its still going strong all these years later.
Have opinions, share opinions, nothing is personal for me here. Except ALB, they are a stain on a great game
You are not wrong there, Ricky - looks a bad one and he's going to need a few of them. Remember, he still gets paid if he's off. Wait - we don't have wages in this game - players play for the love of the game - bit like the managers in most cases.. it's a fun game.. 👍 😄😄😄😄
Can we send the Physio roound to 'Ireland's house please? He needs the magic sponge...
Happens in every game I play. If the 2 people making the trade are happy. Everyone else should just leave alone.
Absolutely Dave.
I don't much go for what gets paid at auction. You can throw in a cheeky bid and win a lot for 1k. So what you bid is not necessarily what you would value the player. You might have to bid a lot higher than you want to get the deal done but you might also get lucky.
You pays yer money, you take yer chance.
These are great blogs. And I think its light hearted.
It's all about opinions. Not right or wrong.
Average valid bids on the 4/25 DM today at auction was 385k (5396 / 14 teams)
As Colin quite rightly said "Some folk think a 4/25 is worth something"
when he copy paste selected auction bids from today, but skipped over the 101k auction bid by SM today.....
Come on come on. You have got to afford a smile at how ironic that is to this fun debate.
"I wonder if anyone selling this free TP that's been mentioned"
yes, it's all around you.
Fact is that you are given 40tp for free every season.
It only gets value when you have too much or too less. Otherwise it is truly FREE TP ;)