Is back on Wednesday of next week (13th) with the cup round
Is it back next Wednesday?
Miss it once it's gone (paused)!
PT sends 350k to DUM for 3 TP
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Aug 3rd:
ALB(20) ALO(40) ARB(20) DUM(20) DEE(35) EF(30) EST(10) EDI(40) FAL(15) HIB(35) LIV(25) MOT(50) PT(10) QP(20) RAN(15) ROS(20) SRA(10)
I suspect that some bids may have been submitted to boost the cost of the winning bid - who wants to see a rival win an age 0 for 1k? The pitfall for this kind of strategy is fairly obvious but Andrew has already addressed a way around that - unless you want to ensure all winning bids are 'honest'.
Fun n games!
Always good deals to be had at this stage of the season.
Feel like I missed out with John stealing my players and knowing I would have won lot 7 if I had bid for him.
Always worth bidding a low price on the off chance no one else has.
Impressive deals you got on those 0/7s, John!
Think you already know this and intended to bid the way you did, but posting in case it's useful to anyone else:
If you bid for multiple players in an auction but only want to win one of them, you can give them the same name in your bids. This way, if you win the first one on the list, your next bid will be invalidated for having the same name as a player already on your roster (since the first bid player has already been added to your roster)
LIV sends Derek Ferguson (4/20 MF) to STI for 150k, 2 TP
Too many age 0 bought this season.
So young SW W C John 0/16 is available to trade after playing 2 more matches.
In box any offers, or bid online after Saturday 9th two matches.
RR sends 190k to GM for Bill Kangaroo (4/16 MF)
MOT sends 120k to SM for 1 CP
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru July 27th:
ALB(40) ALO(50) ARB(30) DUM(50) DEE(35) EF(50) EST(50) EDI(50) FAL(15) HEA(10) HIB(50) KIL(10) LIV(35) MOT(50) PT(25) PET(50) RAN(10) ROS(35) STI(20) SRA(50)
MOT sends 300k to CLY for 3 TP
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 36:
Arbroath - MVP #4: 1 CP (WdW)
Livingston - MVP #3: 1 TP (dWW)
Raith Rovers - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWw)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 35:
Stranraer - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #7: 25k (WwW)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #5: 25k (wWw)
Partick Thistle - MVP #5: 25k (WwD)
In summary, I guess because ARB are reigning champions is the thinking teams rest EL (junk) against ARB thinking they more chance for a win focusing on other league match of same day session.
Team | Junk | JvJ |
ARB | 5 | 3 |
NAI | 5 | 3 |
DUM | 5 | 1 |
ALB | 4 | 1 |
HIB | 4 | 0 |
SRA | 3 | 2 |
ELG | 3 | 0 |
FRA | 3 | 0 |
CLY | 3 | 0 |
ANN | 2 | 2 |
LIV | 2 | 1 |
STE | 2 | 0 |
HEA | 2 | 0 |
MOT | 2 | 0 |
EF | 2 | 0 |
DEE | 1 | 1 |
Week 9 turned out - expectably - rather boring.
Most of the Div1 squads finished the SESL group stage well rested, so not much need to play the B-team, let alone a junk squad.
Nonetheless ARB retake the lead - alongside NAI.
#3 remains unmentioned.
Everyone else may find his team. Especially DEE is always easy to find.
Team | AVG |
ARB | 56,8 |
DUM | 57,9 |
ALB | 59,9 |
HIB | 60,1 |
SRA | 60,2 |
NAI | 60,4 |
ELG | 60,6 |
FRA | 61,4 |
CLY | 61,6 |
STE | 61,8 |
HEA | 61,9 |
MOT | 62,4 |
EF | 62,6 |
DEE | 63,3 |
LIV | 63,4 |
ANN | 63,5 |
Not much news: just a very tight race for the bottom - and a solid top 2.
Overall week #9 showed up with solid 64.9%, only the starting week was higher at 68.3%.
I'm expecting much more junk in week #10.
CLY sends 120k to HIB for 1 CP
Have just noticed that ANN have 8 points in 6 matches against the top 4 (2-2-2), and then 6 points total against the rest (1 win, 3 draws, 8 losses). Dan certainly making his mark on the title race, both during and after his big CECIL cup push. Bad omen for MOT on Saturday!
Airdrie fair splashing the cash on resources lately.
Suits me, sir.
AI sends 360k to PT for 3 CP
Heard a couple of American tourists refer to the legendary steak bakery establishment as G R Eggs.
They maybe think Gordon Ramsay works there!
English school holidays just starting -but Scottish pupils - the 6 that actually attend school - go back in about 2 weeks. Never noticed they were off except Greggs was more quieter than usual and anyway most stay indoors to be able to keep up to date with their social media.
One good thing about being 106 (that's how I feel) is that we don't have school kids at home.. πππ
I laughed and then cried a little. Mine start school holidays for a month on Tuesday
That blog raised a smile Andrew.
...... had the shits all week and totally lost as to what to do. Rang the Doc for help and he said "wait 5 weeks then they will be back to school"......
After the excitement of playing Willy 4 times last Wednesday today seems like an anti-climax.
No SESL Cup today for anyone.
In Sanc it's the Dowson shield only as they play a 3 way round robin.
In OASL my senior team's win means straight to the final (it's a double elimination competition)
It's only the Junior team that has a game.
Did it actually 2 seasons in a row. Played earlier in the season before retiring. 0/10 superstar upgrade. Gk is always the postions to go on these if I ever get another one.
For us lads with nothing to do till this weekend having been dumped out of the SESL Cup, having a discussion and a poll does fill up 3 minutes, so thanks for that.
Steve's point about the GK award has now gone to a Poll (30 seconds) - get in there and give your view.
And I heard a plea for the POTS to be brought back in - up to Mark of course (but it was my suggestion and I collected the data - like the idea it should go on youth - if after PSA (isn't that the heading for blood readings during prostate cancer - in fact I KNOW it is) it could go onto age 1 players - additions are done before 1st game in the new season, so unlikely to be any age 0s. Exciting - that's my 3 minutes up now. π€π€ππ
There is a poll vote on front page now.
In other news,
what ever happened to GK Gracie at ALB,
the golden glove winner that one season rating went over 99.9 and disappeared from stats!
I would be highly against removing this award. Mainly cos I usually win it. Although not this year unless Kittle get his act in to gear.
If the award is unfair, why not just remove it? I'm sure an alternative award could be found if we really need one.
Agree with William that POTS was great idea.
Maybe make it youth players this time?
Exclude GK's again though - they already too strong at many teams for another SL boost.
Tricky altering a statistic award that will show on the web pages in table of stats - but be awarded using a different criteria.
After 59 seasons stats kinda set in stone. But I understand reasoning to wish a change to make it "fairer".
May need 20 managers to want change though?
Seconded. I'm not too fussed on what metric would be used, as long as it isn't so tied to # of shots faced. So, save percentage seems decent enough.
Also, I think it would be easy enough to pay someone 50 or 100k to spend 20 minutes grabbing all the league save %s.
The present formula is rubbish and I drew attention to it last season by exploiting it. Don't worry I won't do that again.
But it favours teams with good keepers but rubbish defence. Can we simply have it as save% with perhaps a minimum number of minutes played. These are easy to check.
And rather than Commish having to go through all 48 teams we put forward our own players on the Notebook.
Are we doing POTS again this season.
Last season was a great and interesting inovention.
CEL sends Nicolas Kuhn (3/26 WG) to EDI for Jamie Taggart (3/26 MA)
ABE sends 100k, Bute Yard (3/9 MF) to DFA for 3 TP
NAI sends 5 TP to LIV for 500k
GM sends 7 TP to LIV for Virgil van Dijk (3/22 DF)
Well, don't I feel like a fool after the same 0/8 WG I just bought last week for 901k went for a grand total of 101k this week. Would have been quite the payoff had Motherwell decided to be patient!
Overall one of the best bargain auctions I've seen in some time. Almost all of the purchases seem to be decent deals, and plenty of time left in the season.
GM sends 5 TP to ABE for Broad Wood (3/17 MF)
NAI sends 2 TP to ABE for 200k
Just noticed we have the lowest morale figure in all the set up. 1st again (or 48th if you plan to be negative about it). Ayr are running me close, but even being lowest we cling to 4th top place in the 1st division till next weekend when Arbroath and East Fife (my 1st loss in the league) play me. No prizes for lowest morale then? Thought not.. :-)
DEE sends 20k, 3 TP to LIV for 3 CP
YES - so I actually won something - haven't had a win for weeks - 0 in the prediction league for this week.
No, wait, that's not good is it? What? Nothing for standing out from the rest of the field. π°. Boo!! ππ
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 6 26th July 2025:
ARB(50) LIV(50)
There were 23 entries in a low-scoring round. The average score was 3.8, assisted by a magnificent 0 by Mr.Blair.
There were two draws, always difficult to predict, and Berwick's win against Dunfermline (the most popular banker choice) was only predicted by three managers. Two managers managed to score six points, so congratulations to John at Livingston and Cameron at Arbroath who each earn 50k for their club.
Cowdenbeath have opened up a little gap at the top, and will take a bit of catching now. The next round will be crictical as it's the Cup round, which can't be dropped from the final scores. This will happen on August 13th and I'll post on the notebook when the draw is known.
Prediction | ABE v ALO | BRE v AI | DFA v BER | FAL v COV | INV v EST | PT v FOR | ROS v MON | STI v QP |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 13% | 57% | 74% | 48% | 74% | 91% | 52% | 61% |
Away | 78% | 35% | 13% | 52% | 9% | 4% | 35% | 22% |
Draw | 9% | 9% | 13% | 0% | 17% | 4% | 13% | 17% |
Banker Count | 13% | 4% | 30% | 4% | 13% | 22% | 4% | 4% |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | Round 6 | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 6 | 4 | 8 | 5 | 38 | Arbroath | 6 | |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 8 | 3 | 35 | Livingston | 6 | |
3 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 4 | 33 | Cowdenbeath | 5 | |
4 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 5 | 32 | East Fife | 5 | |
5 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 2 | 31 | Forfar | 5 | |
6 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 8 | 4 | 30 | Hearts | 5 | |
7 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 8 | 7 | 4 | 29 | Nairn | 5 | ||
8 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 28 | Partick Thistle | 5 | ||
9 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 27 | Rangers | 5 | |
9 | Elgin City | 5 | 9 | 3 | 7 | 3 | 27 | Deveronvale | 4 | ||
9 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 27 | Dundee | 4 | ||
9 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 7 | 27 | Dunfermline | 4 | ||
13 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 7 | 4 | 7 | 3 | 26 | Edinburgh | 4 | ||
13 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 5 | 26 | Ross County | 4 | ||
13 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 26 | East Stirlingshire | 3 | |
13 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 26 | Elgin City | 3 | |
13 | Rangers | 7 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 26 | Motherwell | 3 | ||
13 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 26 | Stirling | 3 | |
19 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 25 | Stranraer | 3 | |
19 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 25 | Annan | 2 | |
19 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 25 | Ayr | 2 | |
22 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 24 | St Johnstone | 2 | ||
23 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 3 | 7 | 22 | Hibernian | 0 | |||
24 | Arbroath | 6 | 3 | 6 | 6 | 21 | |||||
24 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 21 | |||||
26 | St Johnstone | 2 | 6 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 17 | ||||
27 | Cove Rangers | 3 | 5 | 5 | 13 | ||||||
28 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | 3 | 5 | 12 | ||||||
29 | Queen of the South | 3 | 5 | 8 | |||||||
30 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 0 | 4 | |||||||
30 | Dunfermline | 4 | 4 | ||||||||
32 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 |
The team badges at the top of the page also shows ABE(Div3) on the Div 2 line while GM(Div 2) are showing on the Div 3 line.
Although the league tables are showing GM in Division 2 and their schedule shows correct matches, the stats show them as in Division 3.
Are my eyes wonky or does your screen have ABE badge at the end of the 2nd Div row and GM badge in the 3rd Div row?
Strange.
If Cameron says there was no tick I will go with that.
I was sure I'd done my orders last night and then put the predictions in.
(There are no future orders - I was looking at the 2 NMRs)
The team with one entry in was me, and it was deliberate as I knew I would be in the house at 4pm - allowing me an hour to put in the 2nd one. Any injury in the 1st match can be altered by me instead of the computer, and any upcoming suspension means I will play the lad in game 2 so he can gain a full set of ELs when sitting out next weekend.
We all have our own way of working and that is the way it should be. I don't do it every week that way - in fact next Saturday I will be on a cruise ship so both will be in before Saturday morning.
And I don't listen to lads who say the site might be down or wifi etc etc - the worst that could happen is I go NMR and the computer will improvise - and at the moment likely to do a better job than me. :-(
I thought every one clicked "review orders" when they had finished entering lineups to make sure they had saved.
STI never had a tick against it in match schedule on front page that shows pre match comments this morning.
Nor did INV today.
And a 3rd team had tick for first match but not second game of today. Think it was Div 2, but I can't remember team.
Front page also has traffic lights for your own team to alert you.
Frustrating for sure. But local wifi of user may have timed out rather than any game error.
AI sends 120k to EDI for 1 CP
Can't seem to find it. Might have been an older discussion than the archives maintain. May have to rely on someone with a better memory than me
I have a vague memory of this being brought up years ago as something that happened. I will try to search the archive a bit to see if it is still there.
Not sure what happened
Orders were in
All future orders currently showing as passive 442
STI sends 155k to CB for Billy McGhie (4/13 DF)
MOT sends 325k to HIB for 1 CP, 2 TP
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 34:
Stenhousemuir - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Deveronvale - MVP #5: 25k (WWW)
Peterhead - MVP #5: 25k (wWw)
Ross County - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 33:
Arbroath - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWd)
Motherwell - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Edinburgh City - MVP #4: 1 CP (WWW)
Brechin City - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WDw)
Inverness - MVP #3: 1 TP (Wdw)
Zzzzzzzzz
That last round of the cup was pretty enjoyable dont you think?
Energy Level perhaps a factor in trade?
Half of BER starting 11 is on around 2, 3 or 4 EL. And a 2/23 DM on 0 (zero) EL.
Squad numbers increased by 1 at BER too.
After oldies cash-in, now 30 (thirty) teams in Sesl have 19 players or less. When suspensions of 2 or 3 matches kick in later in season roster size may be a crucial factor for some.
Both managers have plenty of experience and I'm sure will see it as a fair deal.
On the value of the trade - no.
On the point of the trade? I think Derek would have been better keeping the CP and using 11 on his DF and DM taking them both to 30. The players he got aren't going to stop him getting the wooden spoon or be any use next season.
Jeez here we go again.
Opinions anyone ?
RAN sends Frankie de Boer (2/10 DF), Alex Lowry (4/14 MF) to BER for 5 CP, D_Blanks (5/9 MA)
ABE sends 250k, Andy Latimer (6/4 DF) to DFA for Joe Chalmers (4/16 MF)
STJ sends 3 TP to AI for 300k
BRE sends 1 TP to AI for 100k
This is your Friday reminder!
Is I know need to field my under 12 team in the next game
John at LIV has hit on something I love the idea of. Wins vs your rivals means more. Should it be cash (I like ks for every player on a or d - I'd say started with rather than finished but it still open to abuse) or should it be an increase in the Morale boost for a win?
Fwiw PET have 3 main rivals. FAL and their ex manager Rhys Brisenden and main played Sherry Debbins are still sing about on the stands, and the other two being ARB (Dave Campbells old team, a classic rival and he knows why) and Killie, which is legacy for us and historically ran by Mark until that bloody Dave guy took over (childhood fan my arse) and if I was ever tempted to unrival them that went to pot when he took over.
Eduard, my sincere apologies for refering to your lineup as 'junk'. I meant dross.
I am not sure if this was the worst DEE lineup of the season but it is surely in the top two.
Perhaps this was in an effort to get DUM up the charts*. If so, thank you!
* the JUNK charts - not the League Table.
So tables mean teams play hardest against LIV and DEE,
but go easy when they play ARB and DUM?
With the SESL group stage ahead, not much junk news this week - but Dumbarton rising fast.
Team | Junk | JvJ |
NAI | 5 | 3 |
DUM | 5 | 1 |
ARB | 4 | 3 |
ALB | 4 | 1 |
HIB | 4 | 0 |
SRA | 3 | 2 |
FRA | 3 | 0 |
ELG | 3 | 0 |
ANN | 2 | 2 |
EF | 2 | 0 |
MOT | 2 | 0 |
HEA | 2 | 0 |
STE | 2 | 0 |
CLY | 2 | 0 |
LIV | 1 | 1 |
DEE | 1 | 1 |
NAI defend their top spot - only just.
DUM are serious contenders now, even if not everything is as junky as they think.
3 teams trailing with 4 junk.
Team | AVG |
ARB | 56,6 |
DUM | 57,3 |
HIB | 58,8 |
SRA | 59,2 |
ALB | 59,4 |
NAI | 60,0 |
ELG | 60,0 |
FRA | 60,8 |
HEA | 61,1 |
MOT | 61,5 |
CLY | 61,5 |
STE | 61,6 |
EF | 62,0 |
ANN | 63,3 |
DEE | 63,4 |
LIV | 63,8 |
Not much news here - besides DUM's major rise.
It's now a two horse race between ARB and DUM - only 0.7 between them.
At the bottom the well-known three keep their distance to the rest.
No interesting JOTW this week, but a non-junk deserves mention:
DUM vs DEE 73/52 1-1
Colin himself called this junk, I didn't.
DEE's 52% are well within junk range, but their SL39 GK certainly was not.
So - using the previous definitions - DEE's lineup was just not junky enough to be junk.
DUM should be quite content with their faced lineups, nonetheless.
Now with 20% more passive aggression!
1. Edinburgh's Eternal Sulk
Hibernian (3rd in Div 1) and Edinburgh City (8th in Div 2) continue their bitter feud over who really owns the capital. Hibs claim history, City claims the tram route. Hibs fans argue they’re in Division 1 for a reason; City fans retort: “That’s just because you can’t get promoted from it.”
2. The Dundee Derby: Neighbours, Enemies, Queue Partners
Dundee FC (3rd, Div 1) and Dundee United (10th, Div 2) live closer than most married couples, yet share less than the average estranged in-laws. Dundee United fans bring up ancient glories; Dundee FC fans say, “Scoreboard.” The real winner is the kebab shop on Tannadice Street.
3. Glasgow’s Identity Crisis
Ah yes, Rangers (9th, Div 2) and Celtic (14th, Div 2) — the Old Firm, now the Old Frail. Both languish in Division 2 mid-table purgatory like two pensioners arguing over whose grandkids are more disappointing. At this point, even Queen’s Park (8th, Div 3) might beat them — and politely too.
4. The Fife Fisticuffs
East Fife (11th, Div 1), Cowdenbeath (7th, Div 2), and Raith Rovers (6th, Div 2) all share a postcode and a grudge. They’re locked in a triangular standoff, where no one remembers why they hate each other, but they’re committed to it. The derby is known locally as “The Kingdom Clash,” or more informally, “That Game Where It Always Rains.”
5. Highland Hostility
Nairn County (14th, Div 1) vs. Elgin City (5th, Div 1) vs. Inverness (14th, Div 3) — the Highland Triangle. Elgin boasts goals galore, while Nairn claims they have the better pub. Inverness insists the weather is a form of tactical advantage. Nobody watches the games — the wind carries the ball away.
6. Motherwell vs. Everyone
Motherwell (top of Div 1) are currently too good for beef. But rest assured, everyone below them collectively hates their smug goal difference and suspiciously consistent form. Fraserburgh (2nd) are quietly plotting revenge involving a foghorn and a dodgy penalty decision.
Honourable Mention: The Sad Ayrshire Derby
Ayr United (rock bottom of Div 2) and Kilmarnock (12th) are locked in a downward spiral of shared disappointment. Kilmarnock wins the derbies, but Ayr wins at bingo night. Everyone else wins by not watching.
Click on Update Info as if you adding to Bio or "team about" to select your rivalry teams.
That took me 15 minutes to find !
I am rivals to no teams.
Surely HIB and HEA dislike their geographical neighbours from west lothian?
It adds a great experience to the game.
Especially when you win.
Which we did.
You Daily Reminder as promised Matt
I enjoyed the EST v ALB rivals match yesterday.
Could we incorporate rivalry matches for all teams once person?
Maybe 10k bonus for every player who finishes the match aggressive or dirty!
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Passive/aggressive keepers:
I know Colin didn't ask a question but here's an answer. I picked a game at random - ARB vs EST and worked out how ARB's shot chance would alter depending on EST's GK. At the start of the game it was 12%. EST playing aggressive GK would only reduce this to 11.4% and passive 12.5%. If they had that mythical 3/38 GK it would be 11% and 12.8%.
So you give up half/one extra shot (on average) to be able to play him 80% of the games rather than 66%. Or you stop an extra half/one shot playing him 50% of the time and risking a red card and penalty.
Colin's little remark about Rangers and Division 3. I kinda agree, but not so much as what was paid as both teams increased their 17th player by quite a lot of SL. Also Cove had 6 attackers and Steve likes to play 4 up front. Having a 7th makes sense for cover. But an SL 17 FW is not all that great really with about a 12% chance of scoring against an SL 27 GK taking into account offsides and being on target. I'll be marking the life out of him when we play because he's bound to score a hat-trick against us otherwise. Having said that, Cove are going to get promoted and Steve is doing a great job there.
Press vs Early Cross:
In the ALB vs EST massacre I noticed ALB changed to Press but their shot chance went down. You'd expect it to go up. The problem was as EST were playing Opportunistic, ALB had a bonus from the DFs. This meant no increase in OFF there. Also WG OFF dropped from 1.95 to 1.45 while MF OFF increased from 0.5 to 1.0 As the WGs were higher SL than the MFs this means a drop in OFF over all.
2:1 and forced repositions:
ALB were playing 1-3-2-4 and had a MF sent off. This forced a DF to move up to MF 1-2-2-4. Later on they had a DF sent off so had just one DF. Tebow had to move back to DF, but that meant one MF so he moved back to MF 1-1-2-4. Unfortunately with just an SL 12 DF, 2:1 reduced MF from 38 to 24 and thus FW from 71 to 48. And playing Press. No wonder they got slaughtered.
Rivals:
Some of you will know that my teams played Willy's teams 4 times in cup games on Wednesday. The chances of this happening must be very low as the teams would have to be drawn together (or apart as one was the 3rd or 4th round) and Cup games scheduled that day. Next week there is no cup on Wednesday, the other leagues often have league games on Wednesday.
Anyway in memory of this I've changed all my rivals to Willy's teams in all 4 leagues.
HEA sends 1 TP to AI for 100k
Great feature.
Especially the first one of season so more age 0 are purchased.
I still feel TP is undervalued.
DEV sends 200k to PT for 2 TP
ARB sends 198k to PT for 2 TP
AI sends 195k to PT for 2 TP
Actually I thought it was a good step for SESL (Iasl uses a system too) allowing managers to cash in for retiring older players. We all need to be aware of the values as we claim the cash from Mark. π°π°
Personally I like the scheme - alternative is they get ancient, nobody buys them and we retire them for zip.
PET sends 400k to HEA for 4 TP
My eye brow may have been briefly raised while sipping my beer, but then I spotted the same team sold for 4TP a now 5/15 (was 5/20 FW earlier in season).
No issue today.
As you were.
The scheme to get cash for retiring a player has been with us for a number of seasons now and I was wondering if anyone actually uses the scale to value old dross?
The scale is - IMO - PITS. It's a made up number that does not reflect the true value of old guys that previously just wasted away.
In other news - well done RAN. Giving it to these Div 3 guys!
I get why you would play your GK passive. Saves EL. Dropping just 1 EL every game instead of 2. Yip. Makes sense.
The loss in GP? Well, if your GK is 3/38 (no idea why that random number popped into my head) then, perhaps, you don't care how many extra shots the opposition get as your man will likely save them all - or one anyway.
So, conversely, why would you play 9 dirty or 5 aggresive and leave the GK on normal. Not a real a question, just in my wee head.
An aggressive GK adds 25% of his SL to GP.
Anyway, I watched the ALB v EST game on the viewer, even though I knew the score. Min 90 was well worth the wait. Cracker.
WHAT. A. GAME.
COV sends 2 CP, 1 TP to RAN for 50k, Cyriel Dessers (6/17 FW)
BRE sends 3 TP to RAN for Danilo (5/15 FW)
Yeah you just can't play 9 players on dirty and expect to have fewer than two reds any more!
Jedi for life
Ours will be on Thursday...
Was useless game was ruined by him
Thank you for all the well wishes. We did the peoples work for all the people!
ALB out the cup at the hands of EST. The Force Awakens
A) it doesn't matter who's in charge, ARB will remain a rival to my PET.
B) as a team that went through on 4 points I don't think it's harsh at all....
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru July 20th:
ALB(30) ALO(50) ARB(20) DUM(50) DEE(15) EF(50) EST(10) EDI(25) FAL(20) FRA(25) HEA(20) HIB(35) LIV(20) MOT(50) NAI(10) PT(15) PET(10) RAN(30) ROS(25) STJ(10) SRA(50)
PET sends Al Bondigas (2/28 MF) to MOT for 400k, 7 TP, Joe Ely (5/12 DM)
Quite harsh that 3 teams out the Sesl cup despite earning 7 points.
π«£
Well that was exciting!
DFA sends 110k to CLY for Robbie Hemfrey (4/11 GK)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 32:
Queens Park - MVP #3: 1 TP (wDw)
East Fife - MVP #4: 1 CP (dWw)
Hearts - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wDw)
Fraserburgh - MVP #4: 1 CP (Www)
Falkirk - MVP #4: 1 CP (WWd)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #5: 25k (wwD)
Cove Rangers - MVP #7: 25k (Wdw)
Whether real-life or SESL, or frankly any situation I might find myself in, I always want to beat AYR :)
Ayrshire area derby a thing in Sesl?
Not as big as ALB v EST obviously!!
Dave and I have been discussing these games as well as we could easily end up in the same position with KIL / PET!
All going to be quite tight.....
Eduard answered the query. Thanks. π
Panic, nope, not fussed either way. If we qualify I'll be on the High Seas when the KOs start and if we go out today we get midweeks off. Decision already made as to play to win or rest the lads. Thinking more of participation rather than results - mojo missing at the moment. π€
Don't worry - no alphabet.
Clubs with equal Pts shall have that tie broken using the following criteria (in order): ...
- Leading Goal scorer
- Flip of a coin
Last time I looked Hibs and Ayr United were in 4th and 5th place in their group. They have exactly the same points, goal difference, and same number of goals scored. They drew their match against each other 0-0. If both teams end exactly the same after Wednesday will the same happen - seems to be a random position as normally alphabetical would be the way. Hibs would go through and Ayr not - think I would be aggrieved if that happened and I was manager of Ayr. However unlikely it will after 4pm tomorrow. :-)
RAN sends 75k to CB for Marvin Andrews (5/8 DF)
DFA sends 80k to CB for Emiliano Martinez (5/11 GK)
EDI sends 200k, 2 TP, Franco Baresi (3/24 SW) to CLY for Marley Redfern (2/25 WG)
I don't want edit my lineup at last minute as opponent hasn't submitted his match orders yet.
No one likes winning (or losing!) to a team that goes "No Moves Received"
I spotted AYR active on web page 3 times today, so hoping Paul is putting final touches to his masterplan before he commits line up 31.
Good luck to all teams later today.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 31:
Dundee FC - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Annan Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwD)
Livingston - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Deveronvale - MVP #4: 1 CP (wwD)
That is the holy grail - 35 CP pre-season
Plan is not to fail that again this season.
However there is a UT player begging for CP this season.
In the past I would only ever buy 35 CP pre-season because 40 CP costs 500k more. I'd rather keep the money then bid 100k/CP in auctions and maybe get some cheap.
But CP prices being what they are I tend to buy what I can afford now. That being said I did want CP recently so did make sure it didn't go too cheap knowing I could probably get back what I paid.
Looks set to catch more than a few managers out. Let's hope the orders flood in today.
Nothing much to say this week as the blog has not been hitting the heights of two weeks ago. In fact, I note that some guys are just copying from my blog/journal posts and then adding something along the lines of - no comment. There is not much* participation there and I watch with interest how much a blog like that scores on the PB scale.
* any
I think MOT were 2nd placed four times in the resources auction 6.
Steve at ALO is another who tactically bids some times just to make sure resources don't go too cheap, so hats off to him.
Age 0 players may go for a bit less as each auction progresses and less matches left to get the 10 PU added.
Has the day of 1k auction wins a thing of the past now?
Hearts standing in the way of MOT getting a great deal on the player they needed. Pushed us up just over what I would consider the average expected price for an 0/8 WG. Expected to pay about that given the lack of apprentice WGs so far in auctions, but always tough knowing you were one Dave S vacation week away from getting a steal! Part of why Dave is such a top manager and why I would need to win... 268 out of my next 294 matches to equal his career record π΅π«
Been waiting to get my revenge a long time
Looks like all the teams on 9 points out of 9 have qualified for the next round already.
The math is simple for DEE, FRA, PT, MOT, and ALO. For STJ and SRA, the schedule works in their favor, as while 4 teams below them could all pass these two, not all four could pass them together due to matches against each other.
7 teams already qualified after 3 matches seems a pretty large number. But, perhaps my memory fails me here and this is normal. Will be most interesting looking at the standings with 1 match to go after tomorrow's fixtures
Last took place in Season 53. EST won 7-4. its that kind of game.
This is our first SESL Cup meeting since season 50 which ALB won.
Pretty Straight Forward. Fans needed the ying to ALB's Yang. Like the force vs. the dark side.
Also it true that Matt and I were not at a Coldplay concert together
For us on that one Steve.
Rumour has it that EST played all dirty in a game against ALB injuring two of their players, knocking them out for the rest of the season.
Either that or they support rival teams that aren't that good anyway.
What is the back story of this rivalry?
The schedule game 32 it's on. Biggest game of the season in SESL. East Stirlingshire otherwise known as that other team
Good to have it back Paul.
Thanks for your efforts with it.
The PL resumes next Saturday, 26th July with the Round 33 Division 3 matches. The entry form is on the Notebook.
The following teams receive Physio Boost through Jimmy O'Rourke:
HIB(-80)
The following teams receive cost to change Captain through Connor McMillan:
COW(-100)
To Connor McMillan please
CLY sends 45k to STE for Michee Efete (5/5 DF)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 30:
Partick Thistle - MVP #4: 1 CP (Www)
Motherwell - MVP #5: 25k (Www)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 29:
Albion Rovers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Wwd)
Fraserburgh - MVP #3: 1 TP (Www)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #6: 25k (wwW)
Stranraer - MVP #3: 1 TP (www)
Good planning Steve.
And fair price received for your CP.
I suspect the CP value may rise further nearer end of season if managers get desperate to hit 30 or 35 SL's.
So I had 17 CP at MSA, which was planned as I had just 19 guaranteed games left. I never assume I'll qualify for the knockout stages and like to have the last weekend free in case of suspensions. I decided we could use 23 CP: 15 on Howarth and Reid to take them to 25, and 8 on Williams and Graham to take them to 30. 6 CP needed assuming we lost to Berwick on Wednesday.
I bid 110k per CP for lots of 9, 8, 8 and 7 CP and 840k for the last 7 CP. The first bids were so it didn't go too cheap. Andy made sure we paid the full 990k (the second time this season we bid 1k below me) for the 9 CP but I got the first 7 CP the knock down price of 756k.
Colin immediately offered me 330k for 3 CP (that's when I realised we'd won a few) and I worked out what to do. I accepted the offer and decided that I could use 2 CP on my GK, as well as the aforementioned 23. After the MVP on Wednesday I decided to sell the unwanted 6 CP. I thought a little profit was OK and Kev bought them an 120k each. Only 70k profit. If they didn't go then I'd save them for next season.
Then I realised I still had one spare - it took ages to work out why - Williams already had 8 PU so could only get to 29. I only needed 4 in the first place (not counting the 2 on my GK). I let Kev have that for 110k - can't be seen to be taking too much of an advantage.
In the end it worked out well. 16 CP bought for 1746k. 10 sold for 1160, so the 6 cost me 584k, which pleases me. Maybe not so old after all.
NAI sends 1 TP to SRA for 100k
GM sends Jari Litmanen (6/5 FW), Lapain (7/1 MF), Dave (7/1 MF) to CLY for 70k
Sesl cup has a Monday then Wednesday fixture.
Just a heads up to anyone who hasn't noticed schedue dates.
ALO sends 1 CP to AI for 110k
DUM journal Grapes this week:
"We know from AI accounts that Kev bought CP for 43k each"
I'm making no comment on volatile CP price valuations for trades from same club.
I wonder if Colin from sesl Accounts will.
HEA sends 4 TP to PET for 404k
AI sends 720k to ALO for 6 CP
The following teams receive retire for cash through :
AI(204) ALB(134) ALO(100) ARB(402) CEL(107) CLY(428) COV(126) COW(30) DUM(280) DEE(172) DFA(120) EF(108) FAL(384) FOR(140) FRA(237) HAM(194) LIV(86) MOT(144) NAI(70) PT(180) PET(302) QP(80) RAN(240) STJ(74) STI(86)
HIB Jimmy O'Rourke MA
Many moons ago, someone told me that it is unlucky to be logged-in while the games are running. So I am going away to have a cuppa. Back later...
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 28:
Dundee FC - MVP #5: 25k (WdW)
East Fife - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwD)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #4: 1 CP (wwD)
Falkirk - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
Edinburgh City - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Deveronvale - MVP #3: 1 TP (wwW)
Understandably all SESL managers are selling any player they can afford to,in order to get in funds. SESL is a constant battle of not having enough funds to execute the plans we want.
What a pitty we dont have ladies teams to sell to our owners the way Chelsea and now Aston Villa are in order to meet their financial fair play requirements.
In a rival offer SRA have now put on the market 4TP at the bargain discounted rate of $150k. "The market is booming" said one Coach as demand far outstrips supply 3 to 1. Stranraer Boss McCumiskey commented that the Blues TPs are top quality which just cannot be matched by any found in the Captial.
Quite a youth programme going on at PET.
38 TP needed to max PU on PET boys.
Overpriced TP available at HEA tor 100k a piece!
Got the job done eventually. Was on a train back from a lovely weekend in Paris yesterday!
Seems popular today.
Nearly half the teams in Sesl awaiting free money for oldies.
PET the only team still to retire their players I think, when I glanced over breakfast earlier.
Converting old players for cash, 16th July 2025
Link on NOTEBOOK now.
All players need be retired before match 28 kicks off tomorrow.
Two teams failed to do this at first cash-in last month, so I need be consistent and stick to the simple rules and deadline.
If you are late, you lose out.
any player age 4+ with SL12 or less is eligable to be cashed in.
Age 4 players at 15k per SL
Age 5 players at 12k per SL
Age 6 players at 10k per SL
Age 7+ players at 8k per SL
14/7/25 CP for 43k each
Also DUM
July 13, 2025
DUM sends 330k to ALO for 3 CP.....
Also DUM
spent 525k so far in extra CP slots at 25k each
Halfway there so don't stop by just posting all things that we know. Make it make sense now. Tell us what these numbers mean and why. I need to know!
Still discussing jeez can we move on and get over it.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru July 13th:
AI(10) ALB(35) ALO(50) ARB(50) COV(10) DEV(15) DUM(50) DEE(50) EF(40) EST(20) EDI(40) FAL(15) FRA(30) HEA(20) HIB(50) LIV(35) MOT(50) NAI(25) PT(40) RR(15) RAN(20) ROS(20) STJ(40) SM(25) STE(10) SRA(40)
The counter argument against Andrew's proposal is to avoid unnecessary complications.
I fully agree that the commisioner's work should be minimized whereever possible.
Here, though, the solution is quite simply.
If the opponent (only!) notices a cup-tied player and wishes to correct this, he has a manual right to appeal for a win-by-default within 24 hours.
Everything but the team reaching the next round stays the same, e.g. ELs, MVPs, etc.
If the opponent doesn't notice anything (cf DEE vs FRA), all fine, move on.
Minimal effort for Mark, and very few people would risk fielding a new star.
This could also remove the artificial semi final and SL 20 suggestion. A cup tied player is a cup tied player, regardless of round or skill.
Dont panic Mr Mainwaring.
Team | Panic Level | Diagnosis |
---|---|---|
Annan Athletic(16th, 10 pts) | π₯π₯π₯π₯π₯ Nuclear | Still bottom, but hey, they scored! Baby steps. Unfortunately, drawing against a wobbly Albion Rovers doesn't qualify as hope. |
Stenhousemuir(15th, 17 pts) | π₯π₯π₯π₯ Meltdown | Shipped four at home to Stranraer. Defense? Missing. Dignity? Also missing. Fans? Probably halfway to Stranraer just to have words. |
Nairn County(14th, 17 pts) | π₯π₯π₯π₯ Unplug the toaster | Lost 4–0 in under 50 minutes. The goalkeeper might still be staring into space. On current form, they’re in freefall with no parachute. |
Livingston(13th, 18 pts) | π₯π₯ Alert but breathing | Beat Hibs 3–0, which is either a massive fluke or the start of a zombie resurrection. Stay tuned for "Salah: The Championship Years." |
Clyde FC (12th, 18 pts) | π₯π₯ Coffee jitters | McCall’s carrying them on his back like a dad playing FIFA against toddlers. Two goals this week and a win—they’re alive, but barely. |
East Fife (11th, 18 pts) | π₯π₯ Mild sweats | Won a 7-goal thriller, mostly thanks to Kieran Millar doing everything except selling pies at halftime. They're scrapping, but still in the swamp. |
Hearts (10th, 20 pts) | π₯ Mild unease | Scored 4, conceded 5. Clearly playing 90s playground football: "all forward, no back." Keep that up and they’ll slide into the vortex. |
Stranraer (9th, 22 pts) | π€οΈ Relief detected | Cruised past Stenny with style. Xian Carbon looks like he was forged in a lab built by bored wizards. For now, they’re safe. |
Another week in Division 1, and if this season were a soap opera, Episode 26 just introduced long-lost twins, dramatic send-offs, and a whole lot of yellow cards.
Let’s start at the top: Motherwell edged past Stranraer 2-1, with country music legends Ray Wylie Hubbard and Jerry Jeff Walker moonlighting as strikers. Xian Carbon pulled one back, but by then, Motherwell had already yodeled their way to victory and a solid 7-point lead at the summit. Ryan Martin saw yellow at the death—possibly for excessive harmonica playing.
Fraserburgh smashed Nairn County 3-1, proving they’re not here to make friends. Ferran Torres scored twice while Raphina got in on the act. Barcelona alumni continue to terrorize Highland defenders, who now have PTSD every time someone speaks Spanish. They’re now level on points with Hibs but ahead on sheer audacity.
Hibernian cruised past Stenhousemuir with a flurry of goals and bookings. Five players picked up yellows, leading some to believe Hibs are collecting them for a raffle. Still, goals from Boyle and O’Rourke were enough to keep them in the title chase.
Dundee FC looked dominant in a 2-0 win over Hearts. Tiffoney and O’Connor scored within a minute, causing whiplash in the stands and confusion in the Hearts backline. Jorge Grant tried to slow things down with a yellow card but forgot to tell his teammates.
Arbroath’s Cole Palmer netted twice in a 2-1 win over Elgin City, who conceded in both the 3rd and 90th minutes—a classic “fall asleep early, then again late” performance. Arbroath leap to 6th with a look of smug mid-table satisfaction.
Dumbarton blanked Annan Athletic, who have now scored fewer goals than an unplugged video game. Sean Quinlan and Ross Chapman did the damage, while Gap Filla saw yellow—perhaps for failing to fill any actual gaps in defense.
In a thriller, East Fife and Livingston drew 2-2. Kieran Millar scored, then got booked (multitasking king), while Mo Salah appeared out of nowhere to score for Livingston—maybe he got lost on his way to Anfield?
Meanwhile, Clyde FC beat Albion Rovers 2-0 thanks to a McCall double. That result propels them up to the dizzying heights of 14th, which in this league is like kissing the clouds.
Annan, sadly, remain bottom. They scored a league-low 9 goals all season—some of which, allegedly, were accidents. More Grapes anyone?
DUM grapes journal:
14/7/25 CP for 43k each
Also DUM
July 13, 2025
DUM sends 330k to ALO for 3 CP.....
Also DUM
spent 525k so far in extra CP slots at 25k each
My tongue firmly in my cheek.
........is certainly an excellent read, so also is the DUM version. (Rushdie can certainly relax a bit knowing he's no longer the most contraversial -Ed). Certainly worth $50k of anybodies cash..
In fact it's that good I read it twice in case I missed anything.
I did.
My lawyer will contact yours soon, Mr Scott.
I only expected to win my final one if any - the others were to keep the bids high.
I don't think I'll have a problem with Mr Hood now.
Big money being splashed yet again for CP at auction tonight.
DUM sends 330k to ALO for 3 CP
Yes I could pay maybe 120k per CP and avoid Robin Hood - then fail to win any end of season rewards and so have paid over the odds.
Like I said it's not the cap - teams could hoard cash (the tax idea is a good one) - but the fact that you have 24 hours to spend it when the trade window is closed (though if before the season ends you can use spare cash on home bonus) and that means it goes to other teams.
If the end of season awards are paid when the trade window has re-opened then fair enough.
Some of us poorer teams rely on end of season awards to get us to that magical 1500k. Hope they don't host cut back
Great - we are 14th in T17 and 15th in T11 in the 1st division.
And about 23rd in overall T17.
2nd division here we come ππ
Punched above our weight early on but we can still make the relegation spots - there's enough games left. πππ
And in case somebody comes up with the gem my DPs are the highest in the league, my answer is "get off my case - it's the way I WANT to play, and someone has to top the table. Why not me??" ππ
The auction today is all resources. If you have any chance of hitting 4000k with awards, just buy up 10 or 20 CP to carry into next season. Then you can start next season still with 50 CP but also 2000k or whatever amount more than the normal 1000k max.
Not too sure how this suggestion would work but just throwing out a different option....Perhaps lower the K's of end of season awards, and certainly level the playing field re amounts achievable for D1, D2 & D3...and maybe add some other awards(all at a LOWER payment level) that are aimed at teams that were not so successful but have achieved something extra despite not WINNING a division or Cup etc.
I hope my explaination makes sense LOL
The trial on-going towards end of current season is to open trade window before the close season awards handed out so rich teams have a chance to trade away excess cash for resources or a player to stay within Robin Hood axe falling on their funds.
The new rule was primarily to help the teams with too little cash to buy any pre season CP, but cash rich teams can also utilise this situation.
I not sure any team needs over 4,000k and it does tend to be end of season awards that push teams over the Robin Hood limits. End of season awards maybe need cut back to prevent the rich (successful) teams just getting richer and richer.
All rules will be reviewed in September, and any further changes can be in place for next season.
All Steves points make sense.
Aditionally the low artificial limit we impose forces players to of necessity play in a similar manner to each other
whereas the ideal I believe ,is to allow as many playing/manager styles as possible to add skill and also more managers being able to have a great season at the same time due to different goals being achieved.
I have said this before and I'll say it again. I think that having a hard cap on cash balances is wrong for the reasons Steve mentions. It's OK to tax the rich teams but not in such a draconian way. Tax a percentage of cash above 4000k, and maybe a higher percentage above 5000k. And give rich teams a chance to trade away excess cash before the tax is imposed. The current system punishes careful cash management.
CB sends 260k to FRA for J Cancelo (4/19 SW)
I don't have a problem with the 4000k cap.
But as it stands if Alloa don't spend any more money on auctions or trades, get through to the knockout stages of the cup and I don't blog any more then we will finish with over 3500k.
On top of that our players are leading the bronze boot1 and rookie hot shot, and could easily win shooting squib. I don't know how we're doing in over achievers except that we started mid-table in T17 - I think around 10th. There's 1200k there.
And blogging could easily add 300k more.
That's 5000k.
"Don't blog", "spend your cash". But none of those awards are guaranteed and I'd rather have 4000k next season than 3000k.
Like I say I don't mind the cap, I mentioned earlier in the season that it's needed but I don't see why my blogs and journals should help other teams.
Considering EDI have the youngest squad in the entire SESL....
MSA was still somewhat painful but it could certainly have been much worse.
Looking forward to the rest of the season now.
Mid season skill level loss done.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 27:
Clyde FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Www)
Dumbarton - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Motherwell - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWW)
Cowdenbeath - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Www)
Cove Rangers - MVP #6: 25k (WdW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 26:
Arbroath - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Fraserburgh - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Dundee United - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #5: 25k (wWw)
Partick Thistle - MVP #3: 1 TP (WWd)
With only 4 teams in the S-Fs then the check of SL+20 (when bought) trades for these cannot be too difficult to spot? No further check would be required for the final as the players will be identified. The only question is what is the penalty? Large fine?
I've not read anyone say DEE "bought the Cecil cup". DEE would more than likely have won cup without traded in player 3/38 anyway.
Trade was "clever management" you could say.
I can appreciate the request for a poll vote on players with an SL of over 20 cannot play in the CECIL or SESL Cup finals or Semi-finals if they have previously played for a different team in an earlier round of that competition.
In principle I'd agree but seems impractical to monitor manually.
Must be a few hundred players in Sesl of 20 skill level and above, all needing checked at semi final and cup final stage. If one played, what is the retrospective solution?
Playing for a team in real life football in a cup tie rules him out for playing in the same cup for another team. That's in stone basically but would be almost impossible to do here in SESL. as we all have an opportunity to buy in if we see a cup win appearing, then at least that's something we can all do- it's whether we would bust the bank for something few remember when the following matches start up. (Did Liverpool give a jot when Man City played Crystal Palace in the FA Cup Final - don't think so..)
This is a good topic for earnings, eh? π°
Match 5 CECIL Cup round 2, leg 1
Michael McIntyre in goal for HEA against CLY.
FRA sends 700k, 6 TP, Inaki Pena (6/10 GK) to HEA for Michael McIntyre (2/23 GK).
Match 8 CECIL Cup round 2, leg 2
Michael McIntyre in goal for FRA against....
wait
wait
DEE!
Where would you draw the line?
After team A is knocked out the Cup in round one and they sell their 3/28 player to team B before match 3. Team B coach him to 38 SL but can't play him in the Cup final. Is that correct?
These numbers are made up and have no connection to any real life event
I don't know if you have plans for all 22 CP but there's only a guaranteed 19 games after MSA. To use them all will cost you 75k. But use 2 this weekend and it only costs you 25k after MSA.
Unless they hit 20 or 30 the loss of SL will be the same whether you use CP or not (and I think ther's only 1 player you have on 19 and he won't be getting any) so you may as well have the exrtra CP sooner rather than later.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru July 6th:
ALB(35) ALO(50) ARB(10) DEV(10) DUM(10) DEE(35) EF(30) EDI(25) FAL(15) HEA(35) HIB(50) LIV(20) MOT(45) PT(20) QOS(5) RAN(15) ROS(20) STJ(10) SM(20) SRA(50)
If a player would go to 20 or 30 then don't bother as you'll just lose the extra one.
My poll comment got cut off for length, so I'll post it here:
"Very mixed on this one. I think it's fair to trade a GK like-for-like when yours gets suspended for a cup final. And I don't foresee teams selling 3/38s very often at all (haven't seen a player nearly that big traded at all in the entire 4ish years of the blog archive). I lean towards things are fine and the fairness of that trade should be handled separately from an entire rule which just adds complexity. But I wouldn't at all mind cup tying players if others like it. Just will be tough to police (maybe will require a fine, since matches can't be re-run?)"
A typo by PT boss thinking 1 TP or 1 CP likely,
and then RAN seem to have seized opportunity to poke fun at the excuses some managers made on blog recently that any trade is ok if it involved an "experienced" manager.
So one has to wonder why RAN and PT sold there 5/13 players (1 a forward 1 a defender ) for 1K each instead of just doing a direct trade?
Mid season ageing skill loss this weekend
Is best practice not to spend any CP this session, as that SL will simply be aged before it can make any use to a player?
Link on NOTEBOOK now.
Wait until after mid season aging this weekend before valuing your players
- or click on player and on top right hand side of all players it will note what SL each player will lose.
example:
Billy Gilmour, 5/12
SL at Aggressive: | 15 |
SL at Passive: | 9 |
SL at Dirty: | 15 |
SL Loss at Midseason Aging: | 4 |
All players need be retired before match 28 kicks off.
Two teams failed to do this at first cash-in last month, so I need be consistent and stick to the simple rules and deadline.
If you are late, you lose out.
Have your say on change to cup tie SL20+ players.
RAN sends 1k to PT for Dermott Gallagher (5/13 FW)
Can I propose the following rule for a poll?
"Players with an SL of over 20 cannot play in the CECIL or SESL Cup finals or Semi-finals if they have previously played for a different team in an earlier round of that competition."
For me the last word on the most recent trade / player value discussion should have gone to Paul at EF.
It is impossible to value players in a consistent way. So much depends on the particular needs of the managers concerned - or perhaps I should say "perceived needs", because two different managers in exactly the same position, with exactly the same squad, would quite possibly set themselves different objectives and so make quite different decisions, different valuations.
This can explain the 1,500 or priceless argument. I'm happy to assume most managers wouldnt sell a 3/38 players but just because AI did it doesnt make them wrong, just different.
They are all made up. Mine, yours, everyone else and those in the rules. ALL made up.
I have never used 'priceless' and I am curious as to how much this is but that can wait until I tell you all about PITS.
Jings crivens help ma boab Colin.
Whatever next.
A 3/38 worth 1500k, yet a 3/39 is priceless (fair comment actually)
It's all about opinions. No one is fully right or wrong.
Moving on...
Thank you Tyron.
I never factor in use of TP or CP when making up figures but more on that next week as I have used up all my PB for this week. ;-)
RAN sends 6 TP to STE for 5 CP
"A player is worth what an experienced manager in his right mind wants to pay for him. "
I'm guessing he meant 1TP or 1CP,
but for the banter I accepted to see if anyone does a u-turn on their displeasure at some fuss over other recent one-sided trades.
PT sends 1k to RAN for Connor Goldson (5/13 DF)
I did pose the question on blog what the 2 x 3/39 DEE players are worth. Ed has not answered that and posted Junk instead.
I haven't posted junk, but about junk. Small difference.
And my current evaluation system only gives relative values, so posting numbers like 1032 or 1768 would be rather pointless.
Right, that's the CECIL Cup bought and paid for - now guessing DEE will be aiming for the triple (League and SESL Cup to come) - who can stop them? Not us for sure..ππ
I'd say priceles: one got 4 of DEE's 5 shots, scoring 2 and the other saved all 7 shots he faced and got man of the match.
>> "two situations might justify reversing a trade"
There is a 3rd way Paul, per the rules.
Good going from DEE. He paid a bargain price for a match winner. I've not said if trade right or wrong.
I did pose the question on blog what the 2 x 3/39 DEE players are worth. Ed has not answered that and posted Junk instead.
It is impossible to value players in a consistent way. So much depends on the particular needs of the managers concerned - or perhaps I should say "perceived needs", because two different managers in exactly the same position, with exactly the same squad, would quite possibly set themselves different objectives and so make quite different decisions, different valuations.
I think there are two situations might justify reversing a trade. One is where an experienced manager might be ripping off a newbie. The other is where two managers are in cahoots in some way, maybe one acting as a feeder club for the other. Nobody is suggesting that either is the case regarding the recent high-profile trade and so it should stand.
Team | Junk | JvJ |
NAI | 5 | 3 |
ARB | 4 | 3 |
ALB | 4 | 1 |
DUM | 4 | 1 |
HIB | 4 | 0 |
FRA | 3 | 0 |
ELG | 3 | 0 |
ANN | 2 | 2 |
SRA | 2 | 2 |
EF | 2 | 0 |
MOT | 2 | 0 |
HEA | 2 | 0 |
STE | 2 | 0 |
LIV | 1 | 1 |
DEE | 1 | 1 |
CLY | 1 | 0 |
Pretty much junk this week, but mostly perfectly understandable.
Suffering from stressful mid-week cup matches, especially SRA and ALB were left without much fuel.
This even lead to DEE's 1st junk opponent: SRA and DEE both silently agreed on saving their ressources for the cup final, 49/43 was a solid JvJ.
The JOTW though was much more impressive:
LIV (the only other team without junk faced before) faced junk specialist ARB, turning in 35/38 for a real JvJ classic. The numbers of this match would be rather expected in Div6, but this 2-2 was indeed happening in Div1!
NAI defend their overall lead with 5 junk faced, but 4 teams are now close behind with 4.
Team | AVG |
ARB | 55,3 |
DUM | 58,4 |
HIB | 58,4 |
NAI | 59,6 |
ALB | 59,7 |
ELG | 60,1 |
FRA | 60,5 |
SRA | 60,7 |
EF | 61,3 |
STE | 61,4 |
HEA | 61,5 |
MOT | 61,7 |
CLY | 61,9 |
DEE | 63,0 |
ANN | 63,8 |
LIV | 63,8 |
ARB are still comfortably ahead with 55%.
The bottom 3 remain the same at 63+%, but are actually closing in on the rest.
Ignoring ARB it almost looks like random noise.
Loved reading that... Maybe only thing not factored in is the cost of the Additional TP Used (Which AI have done consistently through the season). Could push the value closer to the 1400 mark?
It's 5pm in London, and 12 noon in Philadelphia,
and around the world in Sesl-land,
it's time for the Cecil Cup Final.
Time zone not to blame clearly and match 25 will try run again on the next top of the hour?
Fighting amongst sesl managers is not the reason, a source close to my laptop suggests.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 25:
Dundee FC - MVP #4: 1 CP (wwW)
But a very good read - put yourself down for a full participation payment, and well worth it.
I like the breakdown and values you lay out - always up for movement, especially if they are for the start or half way through the season.
I think if I was going nowhere in the current season I'd sell the lad too as he can now bring in anybody he wants from any auction and look forward to next season. The lad might win the Cup for DEE today but he will be reducing from MSA - Kevin can look forward. Could turn out to be a good trade for both for different reasons.
Good luck to both teams today.
SESL is a numbers game – for the most part.
So let me have a look at some numbers.
Firstly, a valuation of a 3/28 – for that is the figure we use as guide. Start of season. Well, that is not listed so we have to work it out or use a bit of imagination. The guide has the following information regarding age 3 players,
3/17 175
3/18 250
3/19 325
3/20 400
3/21 450
3/22 500
3/23 550
As you can see, from SL 17 to 20 the increase is 75k for every 1 SL. Then it levels off a bit with just 50k increase for every SL up to 23. Now we have to workout what a 3/28 will be valued at. We could consider that there might be more leveling off but let’s go with 50k just to keep it simple.
My calculations would then value a 3/28 at 800k.
Next, we add 10 CP. What do you want to value that at? Well, let me tell you exactly the value of that. AI bought 35 CP for 1500k which means each CP cost 43k. Is that the value of the CP?
Let’s go with that. 10 of them is 430k. Which brings our guy to 1230k.
However, we are halfway through the season, and he is halfway to being a 4/28. There is no way to avoid this number. MSA and ESA are coming, and no more CP can be used.
So, what value should we put on a 4/28. The guide only goes as far as 4/24 and the increments are 30/40k for each SL. We will use 40k. 4/24 is 475k so 4/28 is 635k.
Would it be fair to say, at the midway point in this season, that the 3/38 guy is somewhere between 1230k and 635k? Perhaps not 900k but not as much as 1230k.
If you accept that, then AI have conned DEE something rotten.
But wait, AI might only have two more games until MSA but DEE have a very important match before the last two leagues games. The CECIL Cup Final. How much over valuation would DEE pay to secure the services of a high SL FW – who could also play in MF if DEE chose to play BC. Not that DEE will play BC, but they could. If they wanted to.
In the example above I used the figures in SESL Rules under the heading PLAYER VALUES AND AUCTIONS which includes, as it’s opening line,
Player Value rough GUIDE as at START of a season (as at summer 2024). Assume all players have PU of 0. As season progresses, values of older players may reduce especially leading up to mid-season aging skill level loss.
I have also used the figures from AI ACCOUNT page.
I have not mentioned the 2 TP used in the deal as that would cause Karen to have a fit demand that DEE are reimbursed, even though DEE are happy with the deal and could, if they wanted use this guy to bolster 5 players in midfield to make the most of the BC tactic.
I perhaps should not have mentioned the use of BC tactic but it’s out there now. Oops.
Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, AI are now the richest team in SESL. Yes, let that sink in. Kev is in danger from old Robin Hood. Who would have thought.
Please let me get back to my popcorn.
FRA sends 6 TP to QP for 5 CP
....nah, not really.
I have a 5/8 available if anyone is interested. Preferably before MSA hey?
Cant see this trade causing any stir mind you.
David, you owe me cash.
A 3/38 is worth 1350k + 2 TP. I trade TP at 85k so that's 1520k
I just traded a 4/25. Most people agree this is equivalent to a 3/22. That's 16 SL less than OConnor. CP goes in auctions for over 100k but I'm not greedy so I'll accept 100k per SL.
1520 - 1600 = -80. I paid 300k
David you owe me 380k.
We get this every season. As has been said as long as both manager are experienced players and not a newbie being taken advantage of then let it go.
More worrying it is not one of my deal coming under the microscope.
If I offer and you accept (Unless you are a newbie that Im taking advantage of) then we move on.
Surprise Surprise no offers in for my superstars.
I spoke up about this last year (regarding the mental pressure from alarming blog posts after you make a trade) and will do it once more.
A player is worth what an experienced manager in his right mind wants to pay for him.
Period.
Find another subject to rack up party bonus (WCC or woman's EC) and leave these managers alone. You have no idea maybe, but you are killing the game with the critisizm as quite a few managers (including myself) already stay away from making trades to avoid this kinda BS.
Besides, the trade police are, as I have understood it, a handful of 'apointed' managers that discuss potential oneside deals through inbox or email and will approach the trade making duo in pb. This is not done in public on the blog. For good reasons!
Very hard to work out what players are actually worth . Obviously the fact that different managers have different needs and agendas does create a market.
I admit 1300K for a 3/38 does feel at the bottom end of a fair trade ,but the 0/17 fully trained players are harder to value. I dont think comparing them to a 1/17 next season is that far fetched .They are basically worth that amount + the extra half season one gets out of them this season.
Its probably best to not get involved with overregulating trades and activities such as training up players for resale unless the manager really is a newbie or being taken advantage of.
The more players with different agendas in the game the better as it can mean more players feel like they are having a succesful season.
RR sends 250k to FRA for Gabriel Mendoza (4/21 SW)
Personally I've nothing against the trade, or for it either. DEE have pulled a star in time for the Cup Final, but guessing many might think they "pinched" it. They have a big bank balance and money was obviously burning a hole in their pocket.
It brought to mind the fact we don't have cup tied players - maybe a pity, but difficult to get into the programme.
Mind you, I remember an eminent player telling me years ago after a certain SL the player won't be as effective...
Having said that I would have liked the boy, and he will probably score a hat trick tomorrow.
Oh, and in answer to a query - we bet in the last stages of the SESL Cup and not in the CECIL Cup - something to consider - a poll??
ALO sends 300k to HIB for Christian Doidge (4/25 FW)
Having used 37 CP (approx) DEE have hit a whoping 31.3 T11 mark. Outstanding effort and still 29 CP in reserve. Credit where credit is due. Bravo!
What happened to Cup betting this season?
We should all be able to gain from this DEE/AI deal.
Of course, my money would be on SRA...
Oh, of course Dundee have pulled a fast one — it wouldn’t be a cup final without some top-tier tomfoolery. Just days before the big clash with Stranraer, they stroll into Airdrie like they’re shopping for socks and nab Josh Connor for £1.3 million. One-point-three! You can’t even buy a decent flat in Dundee for that. But here’s the kicker — the lad’s cup-tied, yet somehow he's allowed to play? Did Habermann bribe the SESL with Irn-Bru and a tray of caramel wafers? It’s either sorcery or straight-up daylight robbery. Stranraer, who’ve clawed their way to the final with heart, grit, and a back four that looks like they met at the pub, now have to face this Premiership mercenary like it’s the Hunger Games. If Connor scores, Stranraer should be allowed to sign Lionel Messi for 10 minutes. Fair’s fair. This whole thing stinks worse than a wet pie in Brechin. Love Karen xxx.
Im getting near to that 100k partcipation bonus.
Seems to me the managers moaning are the ones who didnt get their offers accepted. So i can only presume they were worse??? Personally i dont give two hoots either way.
If anyone wants to make one of these allegedly better offers send them my way. I have a couple of similar level players.
Grenade thrown into room, leaves quietly out the back door!
From wiki-
'Trade Dispute Committee' will deal with any trade disputes reported e.g., another manager feels an agreed trade was too one-sided.
5 random managers may also be asked to pass judgement on any unfair trades and suggest a fair add-on to even the trade up.
More than 3 managers have raised concerns on value of this 3/38 FW.
Got to love variety of opinions though - saying 0/17 trades are not worth it as next season they will be <check NAI blog> er, 0/17 will be 1/17 the NEXT season. Best practice to use current age and SL for valuations.
The selling manager AI has now blogged to ask (twice) for trade to be reversed.
I see the trade police are out in force again!
There is more than one???
I am the only Karen in the village!
Love the bants though.
More popcorn please.
I didn't realise it would cause controversy so feel free to reverse it.
A few reasons why I accepted. 1 - whilst having been around a long time, I am very out of touch with the game these days. 2 - it was the best offer I received.
To put it into context I received a bid and a message with an offer of 475k.
TLDR - I don't know what I'm doing. Feel free to reverse it.
I certainly wouldn't suggest reversing the trade. Kev has been around long enough (he was my Commish back in 2005 when I first started playing these games) to know what he's doing. I just think he was underpriced and wouldn't have offered that myself.
As for all these 1/17 players going cheap in auctions, perhaps we should given up on buying 0/5 apprentices and training them up.
Hibs paid 950k plus 10 TP for a 0/17 MF and 950k plus 5 TP and 5 CP for a 0/17 FW.
Both players would have cost David 650k for the apprentice and the extra slots to get them as soon as he did. 300k for not having the inconvenience of having a rubbish player in your squad when leading Division One is not overpriced IMHO.
Nurn tuppence worth:
Point 1:
LIV made 2 offers for this player which I consider were worth more than trade agreed.
Am I a Karen? I've no idea but if so this Karen can smell the stetch of the sour grapes from here.
Point 2:
But as a reference two 0/17 players traded recently for 950k plus 10 resources.
Should this trade not be considered as excessive? These players are 1/17s next season, i recently bought a 1/16WG for 600k in the auction, arguments that the 0/17 purchasers could have waited until next season and gotten themselves a relative bargain. The other 300k and 10TP could have been used to plug any player gaps this season - that loot would fair fill any gaps with waiting a season.
How much would DEE trade his 3/39 GK or 3/39 UT? Couple of resources more than what has been paid for 3/38 FW today?
State a valuation of your 3/39 players.
When someone needs go back 26 seasons to try justify a trade then it's not ideal.
1/16 at auction last year went for 2k. That doesn't mean a 1/16 valuation in the whole of Sesl is 2k as this is beyond churlish.
Auction prices paid vary greatly to human team trading. Couple of 1/18 went for over 1000k, yet DEE only mention one for 220k from season 33 π€
A 3/38 FW would have got AI promoted.
Now though, what are AI plans? To rattle about Div 3 for a few seasons wasting time TP'in up youth to then trade them away when at their peak π€·
Rinse and repeat as dozen of teams tend to do here thinking youth will somehow win trophies.
We need hear from AI boss Kev to calm the flames of this trade.
FOR sends 109k to STE for Jenson (1/10 DF)
Nothing to say. There it is quite easy, Two players make a deal, maybe a mistake, maybe not, maybe uneven, maybe not. It is just a game!
And becuase I am here - 1550K for an Age III, SL 34 fully coached player doesn't seem too far off to me. MSA is just round the corner, with his current EL he has 1 - 2 games before that arrives.
Better be careful on the Karen jibes John as per the recent tribunal case as reported in the news just the other week ;-)
Pretty much buzz about a simple deal.
Kevin wanted something - and had something I could use.
No machine guns or other means of pressure involved. AI(DEE) is neither a newbie nor DEE(AI)'s farm team.
Both sides apparently content.
I won't go much into evaluation details, but a simple example what's wrong about some numbers presented ...
But as a reference two 0/17 players traded recently for 950k plus 10 resources.
Yes, they were.
I consider those deals ridiculously overpriced.
Paying 3 (or even 10*) times as much for a player than you pay for a 1/17 at the auction should be forbidden and instantely reversed!
* 1/18 sold for 220k at auction in S33!
If you want to convince me of any issues, please show me a couple of 3/34 for 4000k trades.
More than one manager had told me as a guide 3 SL per age when comparing players.
0/17 may equal 1/20. 2/23 and 3/26. An easy guide.
I am not saying a 0/26 equals a 3/38.....
But as a reference two 0/17 players traded recently for 950k plus 10 resources.
Airdrie might be due upto double what they received.
Tend to agree on the price, think Steve's journal suggestion of value >>2000k is closer to my expectation. Not sure how we've gotten to the point where an 0/17 is worth 30% more than a 3/38.
I'd reverse trade. But I know a few Karen's here won't like that.
The 10 CP spent on player is worth over 1,000k, plus potentially 10 x 25k extra CP slots to coach.
LIV made 2 offers for this player which I consider were worth more than trade agreed.
Surely underpriced.
......surely cup tied??
Huge loss for Airdrie.
Not sure why AI selling such a pivotal player.
DEE sends 1350k, 2 TP to AI for Josh OConnor (3/38 FW)
ELG sends 6 TP to STE for 5 CP
DEE sends 6 TP to QP for 5 CP
MOT sends 6 TP to QP for 5 CP
Some good discussion here - the 40 we get at the season start always seemed too many as almost nobody needs it at that point. So some can be sold cheaply.
But then the retiring and apprentice buying takes place and so we need another 10TPs for him. Then we have the age 0 auction and bang - we need more so the price goes up.
I think it is fine as it is - market value will dictate the price as it should be.
Are the groups viewable anywhere yet ?
I am dead against the weekly review. Makes my blood boil.
Wait.... I've just been told DUM won both games today.
Love the review - we should make it a weekly feature! YAY!!!
Wait.... ANN and DEE next week.
No need for every week.
Found the reviews absolutely hilarious and a joy to read. Happy to give league reviews the full participation bonus (unless told otherwise by the big boss) for any given week, as they take more work and writing than any other equivalent way of earning the full 50k. They also add a lot to the discourse in the league, imo. I can't remember if it was discussed when the decision was made to get rid of league reviews, but perhaps having the reviews as optional and simply counting towards participation bonuses is a way to satisfy both sides from the review wars of season 57.
....and the Table’s Tighter Than Your Nan’s Biscuit Tin
The dust has settled, the bruises iced, and the goalkeepers are still asking: What just happened? Matchday 24 was a whirlwind, and with the updated table now looking like a Jenga tower on a wobbly table, here’s your fully unserious, mildly coherent round-up of the weekend’s mayhem.
Jamie Hamilton opened the scoring with a thumping volley, and then Dumbarton scored three more in a three-minutestretch, leaving Albion Rovers with the collective look of people who’d just opened a surprise tax bill. Rodriguez, Chapman and Bowen all got on the scoresheet. Defending? Albion left it in the team bus.
πͺ Table Says: Dumbarton leapfrog into 10th, while Albion drop like a phone down a drain — now 7th, with 45 goals conceded. Yikes.
Ian McCall finally remembered he was a footballer and not a pub quiz answer, banging in a first-half hat-trick. Dom Docherty added a cherry-on-top fourth in stoppage time, while Elgin just curled up and hoped no one was watching. Plot twist: we all were.
πͺ Table Says: Clyde clamber out of the bottom two (just), now 15th on 12 points. Elgin slip from 3rd to 4th, presumably out of sheer embarrassment.
Lawrence Shankland scored in the second minute, then both teams spent 88 minutes fighting over whose turn it was to be bored. Still, three points is three points — even if the highlights package had to be set to elevator music.
πͺ Table Says: Hearts up to 6th. Annan remain firmly 16th, with more losses than goals (9 goals. 9. In 14 games. Blink twice if you need help).
An absolute thriller. Alabama (yes, the entire state apparently) scored for Arbroath, but Elie Youan struck twice in reply. Then, in the 89th minute, goalkeeper Robbie McCrorie came up for a corner and scored because, why not? Somewhere, Arbroath’s keeper is still processing the trauma.
πͺ Table Says: Arbroath sit 9th, Livi still struggling in 14th but vibing.
Claudio Caniggia, who we can only assume was reanimated for this match, scored inside four minutes. Jim Camperdown scored two more while Nairn’s defence waited for divine intervention. It didn’t arrive.
πͺ Table Says: Dundee climb to 5th and are officially “in the mix.” Nairn still mid-table and mid-crisis.
The battle of the weirdly named. “Wire” and “Norway” (a band? An AI?) helped Stenny go 1-0 up, but Pat Slattery and Adam Lareef turned it around for East Fife — until “Average Joe” and “Jon” reminded us that football is still nonsense.
πͺ Table Says: Both teams firmly stuck in the midfield traffic jam. Beep beep.=
Ferran Torres and Raphinha are either moonlighting from the Premier League or there’s something very dodgy going on in the transfer market. Fraserburgh cruised, while Stranraer stared into the void and saw relegation anxiety.
πͺ Table Says: Fraserburgh move into 2nd, and now officially need to be investigated. Stranraer hang on to 8th like it’s the last lifeboat on the Titanic.
Ray Wylie Hubbard hat-trick. Goals from Howlin Wolf, Townes Van Zandt, Steve Earle, Guy Clark, and Muddy Waters. Was this a football match or a blues revival tour? Hibernian played like they were hearing the music too — possibly through noise-cancelling headphones.
πͺ Table Says: Motherwell (MOT) top the table with 33 points and a +23 goal difference. Hibs, previously 3rd, drop to 3rd with a migraine and a blues record deal.
Pos | Team | Pts | GD | Status |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Motherwell | 33 | +23 | Funkadelic goal monsters |
2 | Fraserburgh | 26 | +15 | La Liga North? |
3 | Hibernian | 26 | +4 | Blues band in disguise |
4 | Elgin City | 25 | +8 | Spanked & slipping |
5 | Dundee FC | 25 | +7 | Climbing with confidence |
16 | Annan Ath | 9 | -25 | In crisis, again |
In a first session where defending was strictly optional and goalkeepers seemed to be on sabbatical, SESL Division One produced more chaos than a cat in a fireworks factory. Let's dive into the highlights, lowlights, and complete absurdities from Matchday 23.
Albion Rovers 5 - 7 Elgin City
This one had more goals than a FIFA glitch. Michael Dangana, clearly auditioning for a Marvel role, scored FOUR times, including one in the 87th minute just to make sure Albion had no hope left. Veajax Xera added two with a name that sounds like a Star Wars bounty hunter. For Rovers, NFL legends Tim Tebow and Deion Sanders apparently laced up boots – someone should probably tell them it’s not the Super Bowl.
Dumbarton 4 - 1 Hearts
Jamie Hamilton clearly didn’t get the memo that you’re supposed to share, scoring a hat-trick and assisting another. Hector Crouch, still not Peter Crouch’s cousin (we checked), added another. Hearts’ only consolation was Alan Rough scoring, which is impressive, considering he retired in the 80s.
Clyde FC 0 - 2 Livingston
Robbie Muirhead was everywhere, scoring twice before halftime. Sepp Kuss – yes, the Tour de France cyclist – came on late to secure the clean sheet, presumably after cycling in from the bench. Clyde, meanwhile, forgot the whole “scoring goals” part of football.
Annan Athletic 0 - 3 Nairn County
Ben Barron bookended this clinical win, with George Robesten and Horace Ormsby chipping in like they're moonlighting from Hogwarts. Annan Athletic were last seen arguing whether their midfielders are legally required to defend.
Arbroath 8 - 2 Stenhousemuir
Cole Palmer dropped a hat-trick in 18 minutes, probably while sipping a latte. Adel Taarabt turned up from a parallel universe and bossed midfield, while Kyle Robinson bagged a brace. Stenny at least found solace in Cameroon and Elm – we assume they’re not countries and trees, respectively.
Dundee FC 4 - 0 Stranraer
Routine as a Tuesday spreadsheet. Javier Artero was everywhere, even showing up in the 76th minute for a cheeky goal. Stranraer barely troubled the scorers, except perhaps to apologize for showing up. Will the Cup final be the same? I want my ticket refunded.
East Fife 1 - 5 Motherwell
Motherwell were playing jazz football – unpredictable, funky, and entirely disrespectful to East Fife’s dignity. Ray Wylie Hubbard and Billy Bland sound like a country duo, but they left East Fife singing the blues.
Fraserburgh 3 - 0 Hibernian
Torres and Olmo made it a Spanish siesta for Fraserburgh, while Hibs' only joy was John Collins getting a nostalgic cameo. Somewhere, the real Hibs were checking for imposters.
LIV sends Marvin Bartley (5/16 MF) to BER for 150k
ALO sends 1 TP to ALB for 85k
The following teams receive Physio Boost through A Stramash FW:
QOS(-80)
The following teams receive Cup Draw Participation through sesl cup groups :
FAL(50) PT(50)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 24:
Livingston - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Raith Rovers - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #3: 1 TP (dWw)
Falkirk - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWW)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation thru June 29th:
ALO(50) ANN(15) ARB(20) DUM(50) DEE(40) EF(50) EDI(35) FAL(20) FRA(10) GM(10) HIB(50) LIV(10) MOT(50) PT(10) PET(25) QP(25) ROS(20) SRA(50)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 23:
Dumbarton - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Motherwell - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
Peterhead - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWw)
Airdrieonians FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Need 2 managers to independently produce Sesl cup draw groups.
The wheel of fortune psychic spinner is ill today.
The psychic spinner didn't see that coming.
First 2 managers to inbox STJ today will get the gig.
Pays 50k a pop.
I just find it interesting that the person that suggesting is the one that's done the most recently re training and trading using tp. Not sure we need to change what isn't broke. Less tp I think will make it even harder to climb out the lower divisions.
We all get 40 TP. I expect most teams will use 20 getting 0/5 players to 0/17 and 20 getting 0/17 players to 1/27 (decent-ish players) where they age to 2/24. Some will be lucky enough to get a good auction buy and have a 1/30 player or two and these will age to 2/27.
But it's the CP used on these age 2 and then age 3 the season after that makes the stars and this CP isn't free.
To me CP will always be more valuable than TP.
Logically TP should be more valuable than CP as its ages slower.
Currently it isn't, so if TP supply was reduced a little, would that push up TP valuation to a more logical level?
So some might say TP market forces suggest TP is under valued (or over supplied)?
Agree they will find there own level
It's not clear what the problem is here....market forces will surely prevail...?
Have you an alternative suggestion Matt to deal with TP valuation?
Disagree entirely on that one.
If TP ought be more valuable than CP, then one consideration is remove TP offering at auctions.
All of a sudden we have a flurry of young trained up players coming to the market. Wonder if this will effect the prices players go for in the next auction. They have been going for good amounts so far this season.
There are 5 age 0/1 players inn the next auction, some manager might hope to pick up a few cheaper players and train them up. IF you have sold one of your trained up players for a good amount they might make an overall profit on the deal.
As the SESL Division 1 rumbles on with all the chaos of a wet ball on a plastic pitch, Stranraer fans have reason to dig out the bunting—or at least stop sighing quite so loudly. Sitting 6th, just a sniff away from the top four, the boys in blue are inching their way up the table like a particularly determined tortoise in studs.
Motherwell cling to the top like a cat up a tree, chased by Hibs with their clinically dull efficiency. But let’s be honest, nobody's writing poetry about their 1-0 away wins. Elgin and Fraserburgh are duking it out with Albion Rovers in what appears to be a contest over who can score the most and defend the least.
Meanwhile, Stranraer gear up to face Dundee in what some are calling “a football match,” and others—a rehearsal for a sleep clinic. Both squads are coming off cup semi-final hangovers, so expect tired legs, hopeful punts, and perhaps the odd mis-kicked corner flag. Morale must be maintained, says Stranraer insider Andrew McCumiskey—possibly while sipping Irn-Bru through gritted teeth.
Down at the bottom, Livingston and Annan are locked in a dramatic race to see who can lose more attractively, while Hearts continue to throw goals at both ends like confetti.
But back to Stranraer. Only eight points off the top and with grit in their socks, the charge is on. Slowly. Like a glacier. But with more heart.
Watch this space, folks. The Blue Wave is gently lapping.
See title
Available for trade: 0/17 (PU9) DF Rab Jones.
Bids around the valuation of last weeks trades of lads ALO PT HIB
Want 1100k + 10 resources (or equivalent value)
I did this a few times for both Steve and Dave in the past seasons.
Huge financial boost for a div.3 team! I would definitely recommend it to any division 3 side that is not aiming for promotion!
The downside is, when you train up goalies, you will concede quite a few extra goals ;) I missed my promo slot and am now 1 season behind on schedule.
After cup exploits today, SRA & DEE meet in next match, and surely EL dictates a load of junk to be fielded in match 23.
Good insight from Steve.
Also got me thinking if any "lassie" named female players in Sesl.
David sent out feelers early May and we quickly came to a deal - 950k and 10 TP for a fully trained MF by MSA.. This ended up being perfect for Alloa. First off a straight 500k profit. Normally training up 0/5 apprentices is detrimental to your team but I was going to play early cross and in a couple of weeks had traded away a 2/19 MF and 4/25 MF for a 2/18 DF, 4/19 WG and 580k.
In early cross the MFs together would have given me 22 DEF and 22 OFF. The WG gives me 37.05 OFF and the DF 10.8 GP, 18 DEF and 3.6 OFF. Alloa is stronger even without the cash.
And the 0/5 MF would be my second strongest MF after match 4. We did have two decent DMs but they played in defence in the 6 man rotation.
As I said to David: "This will be a future blog post.
"But the main benefit is in TPs. As this season is just one to save cash, as I doubt we can get promoted, the plan was to use up 4 extra slots in the Cecil Cup, then 1 TP per match until the penultimate weekend [of the season], saving 2 games in case of injuries or suspensions. By MSA both WGs would be SL 29, my Bosman SL 19 and 2 TP on an apprentice - in that order. Post MSA I'd have 19 games (I always assume no extra cup games) and 17 TP to use on them.
"With your guy I have 10 extra slots to fill. Now the plan is to use TP on the Bosman in league match 1, both WGs from [league] matches 1 to 6 and one WG in league match 7 [with 2 each in the Cecil Cup first round]. Without your player I'd only have WG 29 and WG 22 at this point, and Bosman 18. With your player I have WGs 29 and 29 and Bosman 19 [for actual match 10]
"Your player will get TP from [league] matches 7 to 14 (15 and 16 spare in case of injuries/suspensions) with the other 2 somewhere from [league] matches 1 to 6, probably sooner as he joins the first team after 2 TP applied."
All the Cecil Cup run did was give me one free slot (I've used 13 rather then 14 planned) but Levitt got his 10th TP in league match 12 [match 20] and now I have 4 matches before MSA for my apprentice.
Team | Junk | JvJ |
NAI | 5 | 3 |
ALB | 4 | 1 |
HIB | 4 | 0 |
ARB | 3 | 2 |
DUM | 3 | 1 |
ANN | 2 | 2 |
FRA | 2 | 0 |
EF | 2 | 0 |
MOT | 2 | 0 |
ELG | 2 | 0 |
HEA | 2 | 0 |
SRA | 1 | 1 |
CLY | 1 | 0 |
STE | 1 | 0 |
LIV | 0 | 0 |
DEE | 0 | 0 |
A new sole leader: NAI tops the table.
ALB and HIB stay in reach.
ARB must have felt cheated. They had to face TWO competive 60+ lineups this week (almost unprecedented) - and dropped to #4.
NAI's lead is certainly deserved.
Their match vs DUM was a JvJ classic: 44/39: all Stall from both teams and ZERO shots, let alone goals!
GO NAI - and DUM!
SRA gets their 1st JvJ and leave the bottom 3.
Only LIV and DEE are still waiting for their 1st junk.
Team | AVG |
ARB | 57,2 |
HIB | 57,8 |
DUM | 58,1 |
NAI | 59,1 |
ALB | 59,2 |
ELG | 60,3 |
EF | 60,6 |
HEA | 60,6 |
FRA | 61,5 |
SRA | 61,8 |
MOT | 62,0 |
STE | 62,3 |
CLY | 62,4 |
ANN | 64,3 |
DEE | 65,2 |
LIV | 65,9 |
Not much news here, only HIB closes in on ARB.
Wonder why more teams in Div 3 don't embrace the initiative of training up cheaper costing apprentices and selling for large profit to Div 1.
Same again next season.....
.... unless PT get promoted. Then price goes up a few hundred K!
Not so much brave as probably suicidal. But I needed to replace my column of age 4/25s and even if I got lucky and finished say 3rd or 4th (1st has never been an option) aging would cripple us. Changes had to be before MSA and the 2 lads (Raymond and Steve) did their bit. Now to sit back and see what happens - still got 1 x age 4/25 forward to replace - probably for cash only though as we are SKINT! ππ€ππ
BRE sends Ryan Ferguson (1/17 DF) to HIB for 3 CP, Erich Schaedler (2/20 DF)
Quite brave- and clever- for HIB to bring in 2 fully trained age zero's.
To Raymond (PT) and Steve (ALO) for taking on training a lad for us, and supplying them well before the agreed date. Although the new lads will drop our Top 17 rating - in fact we have dropped into the relegation automatic places, but at least we have brought in some lads we can shape up next season.
We also accepted an offer from John (LIV) as we continue our plans to lower our age overall.
Again, thanks to all 3 lads. ππ
The rest of the season should be interesting. ππ
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 5 28th June 2025:
COW(34) EDI(34) MOT(34)
LIV sends 5 TP to HIB for Elie Youan (4/25 FW)
ALO sends Dylan Levitt (0/17 MF) to HIB for 950k, 10 TP
PT sends Martin Boyle (0/17 FW) to HIB for 950k, 5 CP, 5 TP
This was a high-scoring round, with the 27 entrants averaging 6.11 and scores ranging from 4 to 8. Seven of the eight results were correctly predcted by over 50% of entrants, the exception being the draw between Kilmarnock and Raith Rovers. Everyone predicted Greenock's home win over St Johnstone.
Three teams scored eight points, so congratulations to Alan at Cowdenbeath, William at Edinburgh and Andrew at Motherwell - 34k each for their clubs.
It's a two horse race as we reach the halfway point. Can anyone close the gap on Cowdenbeath and Motherwell?
We have a gap of four weeks before the next round on July 26th. I'll post the entry form in plenty of time for that.
Prediction | AYR v QOS | KIL v RR | GM v STJ | DUU v SM | COW v RAN | CB v PET | CEL v HAM | DEV v EDI |
Home | 41% | 70% | 0% | 67% | 59% | 15% | 7% | 67% |
Away | 56% | 19% | 100% | 19% | 30% | 74% | 89% | 4% |
Draw | 4% | 11% | 0% | 15% | 11% | 11% | 4% | 30% |
Banker Count | 7% | 4% | 48% | 0% | 11% | 4% | 22% | 4% |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | Round 5 | |||||
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Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 6 | 4 | 8 | 33 | Cowdenbeath | 8 | |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 8 | 32 | Edinburgh | 8 | |
3 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 29 | Motherwell | 8 | |
3 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 29 | Dumbarton | 7 | |
5 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 27 | Dundee | 7 | |
5 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 27 | East Fife | 7 | |
5 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 7 | 27 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | |
8 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 8 | 26 | Elgin City | 7 | |
9 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 25 | Falkirk | 7 | |
9 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 7 | 25 | Hibernian | 7 | |
9 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 8 | 7 | 25 | Inverness | 7 | ||
12 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 24 | Queens Park | 7 | ||
12 | Elgin City | 5 | 9 | 3 | 7 | 24 | Ross County | 7 | ||
14 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 7 | 4 | 7 | 23 | Annan | 6 | ||
14 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 23 | Arbroath | 6 | |
16 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 3 | 7 | 22 | Deveronvale | 6 | ||
16 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 22 | Hearts | 6 | |
18 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 4 | 7 | 21 | Alloa | 5 | ||
18 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 21 | Ayr | 5 | ||
18 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 21 | Cove Rangers | 5 | |
18 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 21 | Livingston | 5 | |
18 | Rangers | 7 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 21 | Nairn | 5 | ||
23 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 5 | 19 | St Johnstone | 5 | |
23 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 19 | Stirling | 5 | ||
25 | Arbroath | 6 | 3 | 6 | 15 | Partick Thistle | 4 | |||
25 | St Johnstone | 2 | 6 | 2 | 5 | 15 | Rangers | 4 | ||
27 | Cove Rangers | 3 | 5 | 5 | 13 | Stranraer | 4 | |||
28 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | 3 | 5 | 12 | |||||
29 | Queen of the South | 3 | 5 | 8 | ||||||
30 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 0 | 4 | ||||||
31 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 |
@Colin, see the PET vote - that's our stance as well. It's useful, but not to us.
Enjoyed reading the insights on One Touch Football from ALO MOT et al.
I am sat in the fence on OTF 5 in the bank.
Not convinced OTF benefits much on my Normal team tactics, but happy to hedge my bets on OTF 5 regardless.
Mind made up - no changing it. No u-turn. Here is my answer...
Colin Scott (DUM) | Yes OTF effective, I like it. |
The following teams receive Physio Boost through Johnny Punter :
ARB(-80)
As Bucks Fizz sang - time to make your mind up
Colin Scott (DUM) | Yes OTF effective, I like it. |
Regarding the Poll - I don't think the voting options match the question.
I think OTF is effective but I do not use it as I play EC but by not using OTF, that does not make it ineffective.
So my response to the question does not really match the two options available. I could have selected other - I know.
ALB sends 500k to EDI for Joseph Jacobssen (4/25 MF)
Pro: OTF doesn't suffer from EL or DP. Not sure why I forgot that and that's a major plus.
Only note I would have on your spot on post, Steve, is that I normally would multiply the effects of CP on a player by 2/3, since they typically play 2 out of every 3 matches while OTF adds to your stats 3/3 matches.
If you play Ball Control you need OTF. Most (OK 3) tactics have OFF OTF + DEF OTF adding up to 2. So OTF of 10 gives you 10 OFF and 10 DEF if playing N. With P all 20 goes on OFF and with S it all goes on DEF. With O it's 15 on DEF and nothing on OFF. E and L don't use OTF.
OTF is good for C with 20 on OFF and 15 on DEF. Why don't more teams use C? See my future post as to why you should consider it.
On B it's 20 on OFF and 7.5 on DEF. And then there's the MF bonus which, for OTF of 10 gives you 6.25 of each for every MF you have more than them. Against most E and L teams that's 18.75 for a total of 65 OFF+DEF (this is balanced by GP and DEF being low for DFs compared to N).
But if you don't like B (hard to keep enough high SL players) or E/L (a bit weak defensively it seems) what are the pros and cons for OTF over CP on players?
Pros: 2 CP doesn't cost you an extra slot at 25k. It only costs 6 CP to maintain 10 OTF and can be done in 3 matches. It doesn't age mid-season - if you are not using CP on OTF it's likely you're using it on and age 3 or 4 player. Come mid-season they lose 3 or 4 SL, probably, so you have to add more to get back to the same level. A good Age 3 player will lose 4 or 5 SL at the end of the season making it 8 over all. OTF only loses 6 CP worth.
Cons: Playing N, 2 CP on a DF will give you 1 (or 1.2) GP, 2 DEF and 0.5 (or 0.4) OFF. 2 CP on a MF will give you 1 DEF and 1.5 OFF, on a WG maybe 2.8 OFF and a FW 2 OFF. The FW is the only one that isn't an improvement here but he'll get more shots and a better chance of scoring.
ALB sends 86k to ALO for 1 TP
19 teams have 4 OTF or higher so far,
so plenty teams still like it.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 20:
Hibernian - MVP #4: 1 CP (WdW)
Fraserburgh - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwD)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #4: 1 CP (WWw)
I have just been looking at the latest 'Ask The Managers Vote' re OTF and it would seem that the majority do not favour it unless using BC. Considering the recent discussion relating to Ball Control which was hardly in favour of. the overwhelming concensus appears to be anti OTF and also questionable regarding BC. Taking the feeling about the two subjects together would suggest that some change is called for.....or am i misreading the results ?
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 19:
Hearts - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Queen of the South - MVP #3: 1 TP (wdW)
Raith Rovers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWW)
Stirling - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Cove Rangers - MVP #5: 25k (WWw)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Wdw)
+8 EL for 80k for Jonathon Punter
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Johnny Punter | SW | 3 | 18 | -9 |
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru June 22nd:
ALO(50) ANN(50) ARB(10) COV(10) DEV(10) DUM(50) DEE(50) DUU(10) EF(50) EDI(35) FAL(20) FRA(10) HEA(20) HIB(50) LIV(10) MOT(50) PT(30) PET(25) QOS(10) RR(25) RAN(10) ROS(20) STJ(10) SM(20) STI(15) SRA(50)
There will be an abundance of pies for the travelling support as SRA are riding high and DUM are, well, not. As such, most Dumbartonians are chosing to watch paint dry on a Saturday afternoon than attend the footy. I say footy but... well, there will be plenty of silky soccer on display from the away team who have been showing the diddy teams (DUM included) how it's done.
Our only chance is that SRA are distracted by our lucky mascot, Spotted Jim the pigeon. To be fair, Jim is not having much of a season with just two wins under his wing so far.
It's the Prediction League...
So this must be a reminder!
Dumbarton FC are stumbling into their next league match against Stranraer like a drunk into a kebab shop at 2 a.m.—hopeful, confused, and probably going to regret it. With just one win in their last 10 games (and even that looked like an administrative error), the Sons have been about as sturdy as a flatpack chair assembled blindfolded.
They’ve shipped 25 goals and scored only 11, most of those in one weirdly competent performance against Stenhousemuir, who were presumably distracted by a pigeon on the pitch. Dumbarton’s defence has more holes than a sponge in a gunfight, and their attack wouldn’t scare a toddler in shin pads.
Now they welcome Stranraer, a side surely licking their lips at the chance to face such obliging hosts. If DUM continue this form, SRA could play in slippers and still come away with three points and a souvenir pie.
The following teams receive Cup Draw Participation through SuperStar Draw attendance bonus:
ALO(50) ANN(100) EDI(50) HIB(50) INV(50) MOT(50) SRA(50)
Team | Junk | JvJ |
ARB | 3 | 2 |
NAI | 3 | 2 |
ALB | 3 | 1 |
HIB | 3 | 0 |
FRA | 2 | 0 |
EF | 2 | 0 |
MOT | 2 | 0 |
ANN | 1 | 1 |
ELG | 1 | 0 |
DUM | 1 | 0 |
CLY | 1 | 0 |
STE | 1 | 0 |
HEA | 1 | 0 |
SRA | 0 | 0 |
LIV | 0 | 0 |
DEE | 0 | 0 |
Plenty of junk this week,
Apparently the late rounds of the CECIL Cup show their impact.
The leaders ARB and NAI remain on top, yet ALB and HIB are closing in - all with 3 junks against.
Only 3 teams at the bottom remain "junkless": SRA, LIV and DEE.
Team | AVG |
ARB | 56,3 |
HIB | 58,2 |
HEA | 60,3 |
ALB | 60,8 |
DUM | 60,8 |
NAI | 61,1 |
ELG | 61,5 |
EF | 61,6 |
MOT | 61,8 |
FRA | 61,9 |
CLY | 62,7 |
SRA | 62,7 |
STE | 62,7 |
ANN | 65,3 |
DEE | 65,6 |
LIV | 66,1 |
ARB and HIB remain on top as everybody's darling, but HEA closes in with impressive 56/46% this week.
The bottom 3 "most hated" shuffle a bit around - ANN even plays a JvJ vs (of course) ARB - but they stay in safe distance from the rest.
You might wonder, what ANN/DEE/LIV have done to deserve this?
STJ sends George Reid (4/13 FW) to BER for 100k
We all get 40 TP free and most teams don't need to train up two age 0 and two 1 players. And the market gets flooded with MVPs and auctions.
However we all want more than 40 CP and pre-season they'll cost you 100k each.
Back in the day we only got 35 TP and it's value was about 115k with CP at 80k. Regular trades were 2 TP for 3 CP. Then Commish decided to promote youth players with the 40 TP.
I managed to get the trade altered so 2 CP would get you 3 TP and it hasn't changed that much since.
It's a mystery why TP isn't worth more than CP.
Younger players getting TP lose Skill Level slower - we all know that.
Cheers! We'll await our season.....
Here's the info ...
Can someone remind me how the Superstar upgrade works? Aware it's now done for this season
Great initiative Daniel.
With these 6 players, plus the oldie cash-in for apprentices, could we see TP prices trading higher than CP soon?
CEL & FW Jota have also cashed in ... that concludes SuperStar upgrades for this season!
D1: ARB
D2: RR & CEL
D3: BRE, ROS & PT
I'm delighted my situation is earning some managers nice participation cash (me included).
Right, here it is! I would not be playing this or any other game if all I had to do was stick a team out and hope. I use up ELs to the limit and don't run from them, and play the way I do - BECAUSE I ENJOY IT!
I have won the first division- it was fine but not earth shattering and so I play to earn cash to keep bringing in new (to me at least) and compete.
Very likely I'll lose games as of now and drop down the division, but I have already made plans coming together at MSA to ensure we won't be relegated - even if we did go down everybody knows I'd still be happy.
I don't contribute to the suggestion I'm mad just because I have a high DPs and 4 suspensions - c'est la vie and we get on with it. This weekend Annan and Dundee (for different reasons) will want the points. Likely they'll get them, but I'll not be deliberately playing low SLs and ELs to help out, and never have.
Geez - must have earned the cash by now - ps any offers for a 4,25 FW - p/x a Def would be nice.
I am often blown away by how well this game plays.
The formulas Alan Parr the guys initially put in are invariably correct.
When we tinker with them is when problems normally occur ,and I thing Ball Control was just 1 example of many.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 17:
Motherwell - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (DWw)
Dundee FC - MVP #3: 1 TP (WWw)
What began as a season of unbridled triumph for Hibernian under the charismatic David Blair has mutated into a Shakespearean tragedy. Once perched loftily atop the league, Hibs now lurch forward like a wounded beast, crippled by a perfect storm of injuries, suspensions, and sheer anarchy.
The squad is in tatters. Goalkeeper Phil Slater valiantly mans the posts while Josef Bursik plays like a man possessed, but in front of them lies a defensive apocalypse. Rocky Bushiri languishes in suspension, Peter Marinello and Jerry Milton are doubtful, while Carl Kennedy teeters dangerously on the brink of disciplinary disaster.
Midfield? A wasteland. John Fraser and Ollie Dennis are banned, John Collins clings to form, while Jordan Orbita is being hailed as the lone glimmering emerald in a sea of despair. Up front, Jimmy O’Rourke limps, Christian Doidge groans, and Elie Youan’s fitness resembles a roulette wheel of fate. Meanwhile, suspended Kieron Bowie watches from the stands as his teammates flounder.
Blair now faces a locker room on the edge of mutiny, tabloids (like this one) baying for blood, and supporters oscillating between despair and delirium. This is not merely a slump — this is Easter Road, a full-blown soap opera. Annan and Dundee must be rubbing their hands together in glee.
I had a firend/ex-colleague who worked in a completely chaotic way. No time planning, no prioritisation, usually found chatting by the coffee machine or doing a crossword puzzle in the smoking room. He was a really likeable guy, very sociable and funny. Of course, he had a job to do, and things would eventually catch up with him until there was a CRISIS! And suddenly he would spring into action and work like crazy. This guy just loved a really big mess to sort out, so he deliberately created messes.
I wonder if David's a man who loves a mess to sort out....?
Top 17 is maybe a better guide to squad strength and HIB in top half.
But HIB are leading the way with DP.
More than DOUBLE any other team bar 2 (GM & STJ)
3 out of 4 of your aggressive players were red carded yesterday.
Play aggressive with a key high SL FW maybe in an important game,
but HIB playing very average players as aggressive for minimal SL uplift.
All those 20 and 30 and 40 DP suspensions will catch up with HIB later in season.
HIB having a magnificent season, so the above is only IMHO rather than a criticism.
Guessing the auction has been included but right now we have the worst T11 in the division, so assuming our stay at the top won't be for long.. πππ
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 4 21st June 2025:
EDI(34) FOR(34) LIV(34)
This was a tough round with an average score just under four, and two "impossible" results - Stenhousemuir's win at Albion Rovers and the draw between Annan and Arbroath. Add to this two more drawn games and it's surprising that three entrants managed as many as six points.
Congratulations to John at Livingston, William at Edinburgh and Willy at Forfar who each earn 34k for their clubs.
Round 5 is next Saturday, 28th June and features the match 19 fixtures from Division 2. The entry form is on the Notebook - twice - please use the one that says "PLEASE USE THIS ONE". There's a clue in the title if you're unsure...
Prediction | ALB v STE | NAI v SRA | LIV v MOT | HEA v HIB | ELG v FRA | DUM v EF | CLY v DEE | ANN v ARB |
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Home | 96% | 73% | 0% | 77% | 38% | 46% | 4% | 15% |
Away | 0% | 15% | 96% | 4% | 38% | 27% | 88% | 85% |
Draw | 4% | 12% | 4% | 19% | 23% | 27% | 8% | 0% |
Banker Count | 38% | 8% | 19% | 15% | 12% | 0% | 4% | 4% |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | Round 4 | |||||
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Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 6 | 4 | 25 | Edinburgh | 6 | |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 24 | Forfar | 6 | |
3 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 23 | Livingston | 6 | |
4 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 22 | Cove | 5 | |
5 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 21 | Queen of the South | 5 | |
6 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 20 | Annan | 4 | |
6 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 20 | Ayr | 4 | |
6 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 20 | Cowdenbeath | 4 | |
6 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 20 | Dumbarton | 4 | |
10 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 6 | 18 | Dundee | 4 | ||
10 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 18 | East Fife | 4 | |
10 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 18 | East Stirlingshire | 4 | |
10 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 8 | 18 | Motherwell | 4 | ||
10 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 18 | Rangers | 4 | |
10 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 18 | Stirling | 4 | |
16 | Elgin City | 5 | 9 | 3 | 17 | Stranraer | 4 | ||
16 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 17 | Alloa | 3 | |
16 | Rangers | 7 | 6 | 4 | 17 | Arbroath | 3 | ||
19 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 7 | 4 | 16 | Elgin | 3 | ||
20 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 15 | Falkirk | 3 | |
20 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 3 | 15 | Hibernian | 3 | ||
22 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 4 | 14 | Inverness | 3 | ||
22 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 14 | Partick Thistle | 3 | |
22 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 5 | 14 | Hearts | 2 | ||
25 | St Johnstone | 2 | 6 | 2 | 10 | Queens Park | 2 | ||
26 | Arbroath | 6 | 3 | 9 | St Johnstone | 2 | |||
27 | Cove Rangers | 3 | 5 | 8 | |||||
27 | Queen of the South | 3 | 5 | 8 | |||||
29 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | 3 | 7 | |||||
30 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 0 | 4 | |||||
31 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 |
Most tactics have MF at 1.25 spread between DEF and OFF but BC has 1.5 (0.75 to each). Increasing the OFF part to 1.25 was way too much. The total for MF contibution to the team was a staggering 2.0. Huge.
Probably 1.0 to OFF would be enough to make BC attractive, but you need the resouces to invest. That would be a total of 1.75 to DEF and OFF. A WG in EC adds 1.75 to OFF but you can only play 2 WGs. In BC you can play 5 MFs. No other position has that much power.
Summer 2013 - was the return of Ball Control as a viable team tactic option.
Ball Control is an openly aggressive tactic that requires a heavy duty midfield, enough DF SL to push the ball into the MF area, and as high an OTF as possible. Even with all that, Ball Control can be awfully wide open at the back. Like Barcelona today, a Ball Control team tries to keep hold of possession, but rather than using clever 1 on 1 skills, they tend to use physical play, and create a Wall of Force across the middle of the field. Also all that MF and DF development doesn’t leave much for FW and GK training and coaching. Ball Control teams could in theory have both a solid defence and a crushing offence, but it seems to require an extra 40+ SL MINIMUM advantage over the opponent to get away with it. The weakness at the back and in goal will likely bring them up short in the final analysis against the best. This is probably the least used tactic of all due to its difficult nature.
SESL season 31 will tweak OFF MF from 0.75 to 1.25 for Ball Control. This brings B closer to P as an attacking option, as P is OFF MF 1 currently. B will be changed to OFF MF 1 to match P at end of S31 review as tweak too strong.
Ball Control DEF OTF is 0.75 and OFF OTF is 2.0 SESL season 36 will be same as season 35 for Ball Control, but the numbers that are on database are noted here to clarify:-
GP-SW | GP-DF | DEF-SW | DEF-DF | DEF-MF | DEF-OTF | OFF-SW | OFF-DF | OFF-MF | OFF-WG | OFF-FW | OFF-OTF |
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0.75 | 0.25 | 1 | 0.5 | 0.75 | 0.75 | 0 | 0.25 | 0.75 | 1.25 | 1 | 2 |
Before I started to use BC, a lot of teams were dropping OTF and just playing EC. Two massive wingers and little or no investment in MF.
I thought I could exploit that with BC and so started to give it a go. My prefered lineup was SW, 2 DF, 5 MF, WG and FW. There is a multiplier for every extra MF you have over the opposition which includes your OTF. Mine was always 10. Against EC, I always had 3 extra MFs.
Not many others were using this tactic at the time for various reason - those reasons are not known to me but I suspect they would include one or more of the following - easier to play EC, no need to invest CP in OTF, not fully understanding how BC works and perhaps a few others.
It was loooong time ago but from memory, I believe Mark (DUU) played BC for a while. Anyway, some discussion was had as to why it was not used and the decision was made to tweak BC to make it more powerful and therefore more viable.
I felt this was a good idea but the tweaks that were made, IMO, made BC too powerful and I said so at the time - even though I was using BC. If I remember correctly, the main tweak was the increase of the mulitiplier used to workout how much extra OFF was created using the combination of extra MFs and OTF.
Even with the new Tactics, not many took up BC, and I found it difficult to maintain a MF of the size required - around 7. It took up a huge amount of CP, 6 for OTF before you add in players. When I was very active on SESL, I just about got by, but when RL got in the way and participation dropped then the ability to buy CP also dropped.
I now find it easier to play EC. Let's face it, playing EC may only fear (other then OLMEC being a dick) is playing against BC and who would do that...
Prime example is our second game from yesterday. Two 4-2-4 teams one EC with wingers the other LB with forwards. We started the game with more than 40 more SL on the pitch but had 1% less shot chance.
I might be missing something but LB just doesn't seem viable. Time for the experiment to end
EDI MF Joseph Jacobssen 4-25 was today added to the Transfer list at his own request....offers of Cash and/or TPs are welcome.
If a tactic is being underused, perhaps the numbers should be tweaked to attract more people to use them. Ideally all available tactics should be viable, but with disadvantages as well as advantages. A bit like a game of rock paper scissors only more complicated.
@Colin/DUM:
When DUM were winning Titles and Cups it was with a very powerful BC set up
Were the BC multipliers changed afterwards?
And why did DUM switch to just another EC squad?
With the current numbers I see BC as a niche tactic only.
Given BC's many issues and flaws, I don't see it as a viable option.
Detour:
I actually like the concept of BC - and would like to use it, if it could provide the numbers.
I have played a couple of EEFL systems before, sometimes widely using BC, but they had better multipliers - and the much more flexible EEFL conditional system could handle some of BC's problems much better.
Like Stephen, I am not enthusing over SESL just because we are top of the division - this us NOT where I wanted to be nor expected, and with low ELs and 4 suspensions we will NOT be there next Saturday evening.
My teams play pretty cagey, avoiding a huge loss and I do play low SL lads to increase their output. Red cards etc are part of the game - I accept all - it's fun!!! I play to win but will send in the reserves to save better lads for an upcoming game (don't we all??) But second division football gives me at least 8-12 different opponents each season..
PS Where did it say gates in the 1st division were 25k above the others? We played home to DUM (and at the time we were 2nd in the division) and the gate was 88k - meaning it would have been 53k outside the top section. π
Roll on next weekend !!
Lacking the option to appreciate David's post by pushing a button..
push push push
I must have played (and reviewed in a games magazine) dozens of games - mainly soccer, but cricket, horse racing, baseball, US football were covered too, both play by mail and online over the past 30 years. Of course none covers every single aspect of the sport inside the game but I have always felt SESL came as close to being a real manager as any. Mind you in real life most managers can't do transfer but deflect to the accountant for "advice".
However there is lots to get on with in SESL that allows you to plot and plan getting through a season - everybody can't win titles and cups and at the start of a season your goal may be to avoid relegation, but we keep coming back..
Mark has run the show since I was in shorts (it seems) and deserves the credit for running a setup that keeps many faithful managers. He just wishes a few more might contribute to the cost he has to make running it. He isn't saying that - I am. π°π°. Roll on SESL's 100 season..!! πππ
I had to check Steve...
Sorry, to report that DEV only has one CECIL Cup Final appearance and it was a defeat in Season 38 to... DUM
Now, now Steve. I didn't say everything but it probably was when you weren't around ;-)
As I'm in a good mood, thought (even though it's midseason) I'd wax a bit lyrical about this game, the site, the effort taken to run it, and the other managers.
I'm sure everyone would second my comments by saying this site fulfills a great lustre we have for fantasy sports, and there really aren't other games out there that do it this well. My wife describes this as fake fantasy football, compared with the other 'real' fantasy footballs I play!
To that point, as this feels irreplaceable to all of us, I'd just like to MSA-praise Marc for all of his work and everyone that has taken on any small effort in the prior years.
Am I saying this because I'm top of Div 2? Maybe. But that means when I'm overtaken in future weeks someone else can write on here about what the site means for them.
Do we all remember the couple of seasons that it was way too strong? As a team that has always played EC - we do!
Stating the obvious maybe - but cecil cup games are now Monday & Wednesday.
Cup is a nice break for LIV from a frightful league campaign.
When I was a lad BC lasted a long time......one Million years in fact.....which was about 2 hours long.
DUM winning everything? I think that's when I was away (season 23-32).
Before I came back I noticed everyone was playing BC as it was too O P (as my kids would say). I think the main problem was MF OFF was set at 1.0 and OTF OFF was also very high.
When DUM were winning Titles and Cups it was with a very powerful BC set up, but as Roy is finding, it is very difficult to keep the level of SL needed in the middle of the park for it be effective over several seasons. I would recommend persevering, if you can, as BC can be very rewarding.
I understand Steves difficulties with building a squad good enough to effectively play Ball controll.
I have always felt that the tactic as it was initially written was very viable, but the way we have it in SESL
is just to difficult to master. In fact Steve and I have a long running debate about it.
Keeping 5 decent MFs as well as a GK and a FW (was not able to get enough decent MAs) was my problem, Roy. It worked for a while but two seasons ago the cracks were showing and we couldn't score goals.
I still think you should mark more, however.
I was away last weekend and had poor wifi so stuck my lines in early.
Today was on purpose to do 1 team line at a time, as I was at home to do the 2nd one. I also hold back if I can as I sail close to the wind on suspensions and sometimes injuries. Today I know that 3 lads will miss the next session, so I immediately put them into the 2nd game so they can be suspended and gain ELs ready for their suspension end. I like doing it this way, as the title flag isn't as important as enjoying the game. If I missed the 2nd game due to a malfunction then I miss out on training and probably 3 points, but it's not the end of the world.
I have put in my team line for 5pm today... but appreciate your message all the same.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 16:
East Fife - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Wdw)
Peterhead - MVP #3: 1 TP (WdW)
Queens Park - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (DWw)
Partick Thistle - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Inverness - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Brechin City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
I believe the ability for Div 3 teams to recruit MPP Bosmans is intended to support them in their efforts to rebuild/gain promotion. A Div 1 team paying a small/affordable fee completely negates that.
Bosmans can be traded. Why not offer a division 3 team a trade preseason? I've done it before.
As for numbers and usage - 3 teams have 5 MPPs, Kilmarnock, St Mirren (with 4 DMs) and my Stirling Albion.
My idea which is still a work in progress is to play BC with as many MAs as possible ( I have 5) this was intended to help with goal scoring from midfield. But it'd hard to keep all players with high enough SL to make it work.
Andy & David - only 7 days ago the server was down a few hours.
Running roulette risking not having 2nd match today with a line-up ticked,
that you can tweak if you have time between deadlines.
Brave men?
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 15:
Saint Johnstone - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWd)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Cowdenbeath - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Www)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #3: 1 TP (DWw)
Cove Rangers - MVP #4: 1 CP (Wdw)
I just bought an apprentice and thought I would have option to choose a MA (for added cost)
So multipositional players only via auction, or for some teams in Div 3 when picking a Bosman?
Could we pay a "agents" fee or scouting fee to upgrade one player to MPP at start of each season?
Maybe 300k for an age 1, 200k for age 2, and 100k for age 3+ ?
One other advantage, especially for longball/EC teams,of an MA or UT is that the FW can be developed in MF rather than weakening your FW line. But yes their biggest advantage is shooting strongly from the furthest back they can.
Shooting ability - agreed Andrew. That is the benefit.
So a DM shoots as a MF. Play him in DEF to get the benefit. Played as a MF, no benefit. MA in midfield shoots like a FW but played as a FW - no benefit. Therefore, UT is a defender.
Just my view.
Agree that the positional flexibility is a key benefit of MPPs. I use SDs to easily switch to having 6 defenders when moving to a stall, for example.
But I think the benefit I tend to value more is the shooting boost - having a MF that shoots like a FW or a DF that shoots like a MF. Probably only leads to a couple more goals per season at best, but that's not half bad!
Now, my vaguely related big idea for OLMEC in the 2020s...what about wingbacks? A MPP position that can play WG or DF with no negative effect. I'll admit this would benefit MOT's playstyle greatly, but it would be an interesting twist to bring WGs into the MPP fold that everybody could take advantage of.
Multipositional players in Sesl - are they worth a decent premium?
All but 5 teams in Sesl have them. And those 5 teams going without are all at the strong side of Sesl strength.
I wondered if the options and usefulness of multipositional players is a significant advantage to roster management.
Looks like you forgot a banker in the prediction league. Hope you see this in time!
PT & their young FW with a name that has to take him far (or perhaps only to be replaced by an apparent mediore nobody) Ablade have also cashed in ...
D1: ARB
D2: RR & CEL
D3: BRE, ROS & PT
... interesting stuff, even more is that ANN have not faced it ... yet we have focussed on the CECIL and played junk often. I suppose its not my issue that managers waste a lot of energy ... moreover, I will take it as a complement ππ
HIB sends 50k, 4 CP to HEA for 6 TP
In my defence, your honour, I thought East Fife had listed ME twice as a rival, not the other way around.
And East Fife are run by that cracking lad, Paul, who also enjoyed doing divisional reviews.. I'll stop there.. ππ
I suppose I should be grateful it's only twice...
I've just noticed that Hibernian's listed rivals are East Fife - twice.
What did Paul do, David?
I'd accept those teams who win the season before are omitted for the next season draw.
(Starting next season) π
If my tabulation is correct, this is the 6th season we've had the superstar draw, so it is worth a look at how the random draws have shaken out:
Won 3 times:
ARB, COW, PT
Won 2 times:
AI, FAL, FRA, STE, EST, ELG, RR
Won 1 time:
CEL, BRE, ROS, INV, EDI, SRA, QOS, CB, BER, DEE, EF, SM, ALB
Never won:
ABE, ALO, ANN, AYR, CLY, COV, DEV, DUM, DUU, DFA, FOR, GM, HAM, HEA, HIB, KIL, LIV, MON, MOT, NAI, PET, QP, RAN, STJ, STI
Not too surprising of a distribution for random draws over 6 seasons, but there are some interesting details:
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru June 15th:
AI(10) ALO(25) ANN(10) ARB(20) CLY(10) DEE(35) EF(50) EDI(15) FAL(15) HEA(20) HIB(50) LIV(10) MOT(50) QOS(10) QP(10) RR(20) ROS(45) STJ(10) SM(10) SRA(40)
To all late arrivals - and / or just recently interested:
1st the legend ...
Junk := # junk lineups played against
Junk vs Junk (JvJ, formerly Junk Duel) := # matches with both teams fielding junk
Avg := average TotalSL% played against
The reason for this table came from when I (and e.g. Andrew/MOT) noticed that their respective schedule partner (i.e. the team we shared most weekly opponents with) faced much weaker lineups.
There was some discussion about it, but in the end I wanted to get real numbers: the clever management table.
The term "clever management" is in honor of Dave/HEA, claiming ...
Clever management may see opposition pick a match they can win and play near their top 11.
For example, say a team like HEA happens to be near top of league, then opposition may focus the high skill players on the other match of the same session sometimes.
Given that the "other" team was DEE, you might guess that I did not quite share Dave's view.
Team | Junk | JvJ |
ARB | 2 | 1 |
NAI | 2 | 1 |
HIB | 2 | 0 |
ALB | 2 | 0 |
FRA | 2 | 0 |
ELG | 1 | 0 |
DUM | 1 | 0 |
EF | 1 | 0 |
CLY | 1 | 0 |
STE | 1 | 0 |
MOT | 1 | 0 |
SRA | 0 | 0 |
HEA | 0 | 0 |
LIV | 0 | 0 |
DEE | 0 | 0 |
ANN | 0 | 0 |
A disappointing week for the leaders - they had to face some actual competition, outrageous!
5 teams are still waiting for their 1st junk opposition.
But actually a rather balanced table.
Team | AVG |
ARB | 57,1 |
HIB | 59,8 |
ELG | 60,6 |
DUM | 61,0 |
NAI | 61,6 |
ALB | 61,6 |
FRA | 62,0 |
EF | 62,4 |
SRA | 62,4 |
HEA | 62,6 |
CLY | 62,9 |
STE | 63,0 |
MOT | 63,3 |
LIV | 66,3 |
DEE | 66,4 |
ANN | 67,5 |
Arbroath still manages to be everybody's favourite - with relaxing 57%.
The bottom three, LIV/DEE/ANN seem to be stuck with 66%+. I fail to see a common pattern here.
It's Friday
Tomorrow is Saturday
It's the Prediction League
Work got in the way and I could not make the draw. Interestingly, I have never been present for any of the previous draws and have never had a Superstar. Coincidence...?
James' idea of needing an "academy" to get a superstar is actually quite solid.
Instead of a random roll the superstar would turn into a strategic choice.
And it would still "support" lower div teams since it is much easier to train up rookies in div3 than in div1.
I'd still prefer getting rid of the superstars, but the academy approach seems like a reasonable compromise.
ARB & BRE youngsters MacIntyre & Ramsey upgraded...
D1: ARB
D2: RR & CEL
D3: BRE, ROS & PT
Maybe there could also be a "sponsorship" for a superstar. Develop (have?) 3 (4?) or more Age 0, coached to SL17+, at the end of the season then you can sign a superstar the next, as your academy has shown proficiency and can attract the best. Creates a dilemma that your free 40TP are then tied up, and you will be unlikely to achieve it year after year.
If it is "have" that might stimulate the market for Age 0 players.
Another season and St Mirren academy fails to produce a superstar youngster may be time to get some new coaches in.
The max a player can get is +5 i.e. started as 0, 5 to make a 0,10 ... if a player starts 0,7 then he would get +3 to make a 0,10 ... this based on what the player was acquired at e.g. via auction or buy apprentice etc.
Looking at your squad, the 0,7 DF (Wilson) was 0,5 but has 2 PU ... so I can manually add the +5 still and he would become an instant 0,12 today still with 8 PU possible after seasoning if you wish it
Hope that explains but comment again if needed π
I have a 0/7 DF - can he be made to 0/12 just now?
Or does player need to be 0/5 to take advantage of super star bonus?
ROS & RR already taken up on their luck ...youngsters Wright & Easton upgraded :-)
D1: ARB
D2: RR & CEL
D3: BRE, ROS & PT
First & foremost, very sorry to all whom unlike I managed to turn up for the draw on time!!. Few issues tonight in real life that overan & got me side tracked :-(.
However, enough people thankfully hung around and we got the draw completed and actually had the biggest turn out ever! (I even showed my mug as I have a new laptop with a working camera ... again I can only apologise!). For the record, those were Bill (EDI), Andrew (SRA), Dave B (HIB), Steve T (ALO), Andy (MOT) & Josh (INV) ... Mark, you were obviously present at 8 pm so I include you too! ... 50 k for your (lengthy) troubles on the way soon.
Right, the business end so to speak ... the wheel of names spat out the following SuperStar winners...
D1: ARB
D2: RR & CEL
D3: BRE, ROS & PT
Congrats to the winners, Inbox (preferred as I might miss a blog) the upgrade requests to me as & when before mid-season aging. As mentioned any upgrade can be applied to age 0 players already in training (& seasoned if occured).
As per previous ....
Been trying several times and still getting the same...
That is message I am getting for superstar draw.
Maybe kick off time is 9pm UK time?
The whole "Superstar" issue is a big fraud; no logging in possible!
The only way to convince me otherwise is DEE winning the slot.
And I have been told I will be admitted shortly - hello? 3rd time signing in - same message - this happened last time too if I remember. It IS 8pm, isn't it? :-(
Super Star LIVE draw ... Wednesday 18th June 8 pm BST
So for us lads in the Uk do we go online at 8pm or what, please?
My team is forever hopeful of an apprentice boost.
Maybe only the teams that go online could be entered into the draw.. Okay - bad idea..π€«π€«π€«
It's not even on linear tv in Holland. I probably would've been interested in a few games.
As for why America... in the past decade almost all big european clubs chose to do their preseason in the US, mainly for marketing purposes, just like everyone went to china about 10 years ago.
I guess Fifa just capitalized on what was already there ;)
Dull as dishwater so far
Simple answer Fans no clubs yes as it give them more money. If it mattered then why play in America?
Does anyone really care?
HEA sends 100k to QOS for Pat Bonner (5/13 GK)
Sorry for the delay but been a busy week ...
LIVE DRAW will be held this Wednesday evening at 8 PM (BST) via teams
MEETING LINK: SESL SuperStar Draw | Microsoft Teams | Meet-up-Join
... the incentive to attend the LIVE is draw will be $50 k for your team :-)
Reminder the draw will run & the age 0 player upgrade is as follows (no change from previous seasons) ... again it slants in favour D3>D2>D1 teams based on previous manager comments:
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | Total |
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 6 | 21 |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 20 |
3 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 6 | 19 |
4 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 6 | 18 |
4 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 6 | 18 |
4 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 8 | 18 |
4 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 6 | 18 |
8 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 5 | 17 |
9 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 7 | 16 |
9 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 6 | 16 |
11 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 4 | 15 |
11 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 5 | 15 |
13 | Elgin City | 5 | 9 | 14 | |
13 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 5 | 14 |
13 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 6 | 14 |
13 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 4 | 14 |
13 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 5 | 14 |
18 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 4 | 13 |
18 | Rangers | 7 | 6 | 13 | |
20 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 7 | 12 | |
20 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | 12 |
20 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 12 | |
23 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 10 | |
24 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 2 | 8 |
24 | St Johnstone | 2 | 6 | 8 | |
26 | Arbroath | 6 | 6 | ||
27 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 0 | 4 | |
27 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | 4 | ||
29 | Queen of the South | 3 | 3 | ||
29 | Cove Rangers | 3 | 3 | ||
31 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 |
Apologies, looks like I gave your pointe to Queen of the South by mistake....will correct....
Hi Paul, looks like you have QP in the weekly score but didn't add ours to the cumulative scores.
Auction 2 is looking like it will be a busy one with 32 teams chasing players.
Could be some high priced paid tonight as teams try to get the player they want.
Did this happen last weekend as planned? If so, do we have the results of it?
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru June 8th:
ALB(10) ALO(25) ANN(10) ARB(20) COW(10) DUM(25) DEE(35) DUU(10) EF(50) EDI(50) FAL(15) HEA(10) HIB(40) LIV(25) MOT(45) PT(30) QP(20) RAN(10) STJ(20) SM(20) STE(50) SRA(50)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru June 1st:
ALO(50) ARB(10) COW(20) DUM(15) DEE(50) DUU(50) EF(50) EDI(20) FAL(20) FRA(15) HEA(10) HIB(50) PT(50) ROS(20) STE(10) SRA(50)
Auction 2
Deadline: Sun, Jun 15: 1930
" 32 teams participating "
The following teams receive Physio Boost through Gary Clark Jr:
MOT(-80)
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 3 14th June 2025:
ELG(100)
There were 26 entries with an average score of 5.34. The real toughie was the draw between Stirling and Falkirk, predicted by only two managers. All but one predicted Cove's home win, with half the entrants choosing this as their banker.
Stenhousemuir were the first team to make an entry. Full marks for promptitude - but unfortunately no marks for prescience. At the other end of the scale, Rob will be delighted to notch up eight points for Ross County - but not as delighted as Jason who scored a maximum nine to earn 100k for Elgin City. Well done sir!
Round four is next Saturday and features the match 15 Division 1 games. The entry form is on the Notebook.
Prediction | ABE v PT | ROS v INV | STI v FAL | QP v DFA | MON v BRE | FOR v ALO | EST v AI | COV v BER |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 31% | 58% | 62% | 77% | 85% | 23% | 42% | 96% |
Away | 62% | 27% | 27% | 23% | 15% | 50% | 46% | 4% |
Draw | 8% | 15% | 12% | 0% | 0% | 27% | 12% | 0% |
Banker Count | 8% | 0% | 0% | 12% | 27% | 4% | 0% | 50% |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | Round 3 | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 6 | 21 | Elgin City | 9 | |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 7 | 20 | Ross County | 8 | |
3 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 6 | 19 | Ayr | 7 | |
4 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 6 | 18 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | |
4 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 6 | 18 | Motherwell | 7 | |
4 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 8 | 18 | Annan | 6 | |
7 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 5 | 17 | Cowdenbeath | 6 | |
8 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 7 | 16 | Deveronvale | 6 | |
8 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 6 | 16 | Dundee | 6 | |
10 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 4 | 15 | East Fife | 6 | |
10 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 5 | 15 | Edinburgh | 6 | |
12 | Elgin City | 5 | 9 | 14 | Partick Thistle | 6 | ||
12 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 5 | 14 | Queens Park | 6 | |
12 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 6 | 14 | Rangers | 6 | |
12 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 4 | 14 | St Johnstone | 6 | |
12 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 5 | 14 | Falkirk | 5 | |
17 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 4 | 13 | Hibernian | 5 | |
17 | Rangers | 7 | 6 | 13 | Nairn | 5 | ||
19 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 7 | 12 | Stranraer | 5 | ||
19 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | 12 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | |
19 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 12 | Forfar | 4 | ||
19 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 12 | Hearts | 4 | ||
23 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 10 | Stirling | 4 | ||
24 | Queen of the South | 3 | 6 | 9 | Cove Rangers | 3 | ||
25 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 2 | 8 | Livingston | 2 | |
25 | St Johnstone | 2 | 6 | 8 | Stenhousemuir | 0 | ||
27 | Arbroath | 6 | 6 | |||||
28 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 0 | 4 | ||||
28 | Alloa Athletic | 4 | 4 | |||||
30 | CoverRangers | 3 | 3 | |||||
31 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 |
So....fighting to survive this season, we are now 4th in the league !
Amazing run sofar, but will still be happy to remain in the division. Long way to go.
Thanks to those involved in fixing.
Only INV nmr match 12 I think.
Match 13 is a full house of ticks though.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 13:
Albion Rovers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Elgin City - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Arbroath - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Edinburgh City - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 12:
Dundee FC - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dwW)
Rangers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwW)
Peterhead - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Queen of the South - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Queens Park - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Cove Rangers - MVP #3: 1 TP (WWW)
Thanks Mark. I don't usually leave orders until the day of.
Matches will run 2 hours late today.
The server was offline 12:36 to 3:11 UK time, and thanks to Marc CLY for advising me, and I have just had support restart virtual server for me (I'm out of town so couldn't do it myself from home)
Thanks for your patience guys.
Noted.
Notebook.
Entered.
It's the Prediction League tomorrow
I'm sure Eduard explained the table when he started doing it, but if he could re-post that would be useful. I didn't take too much notice last season as I wasn't in Div.1....it would be nice to understand it before I return to Div 2....
ROS sends 6 CP to COV for 7 TP
COV sends 6 TP to COW for 4 CP
MOT sends 3 TP to COW for 2 CP
I am on your side here Dave, just as well Steve came along and explained it all so concisely.. Good one, Steve, I think.. :-)
I would hazard a guess an junk duel based on the fact that the top two teams have JD=1, they faced each other and Eduard actually says "junk duel".
BICBW
The following teams receive retire for apprentices through players not retired last weekend:
AYR(-206) CEL(-184)
What does JD stand for?
A sentence of explanation would be good, as given the lack of blog response I can't be only one no idea what these clever junk tables mean exactly?
Team | Junk | JDs | AVG |
ARB | 2 | 1 | 54,5 |
NAI | 2 | 1 | 61,3 |
HIB | 2 | 0 | 58,8 |
EF | 1 | 0 | 58,8 |
ELG | 1 | 0 | 61,0 |
STE | 1 | 0 | 61,3 |
DUM | 1 | 0 | 61,5 |
FRA | 1 | 0 | 63,3 |
HEA | 0 | 0 | 62,5 |
SRA | 0 | 0 | 63,0 |
MOT | 0 | 0 | 64,7 |
ALB | 0 | 0 | 64,8 |
CLY | 0 | 0 | 65,8 |
LIV | 0 | 0 | 68,0 |
DEE | 0 | 0 | 68,8 |
ANN | 0 | 0 | 68,8 |
Week 3 - and finally our 1st junk duel: ARB vs NAI.
Admittedly, some other matches came quite close, but only this 54/44% match with star keepers of 10/17 SL did make the cut.
Those teams are well deserved at the top of the table.
NAI though does occassionally face competitive lineups, with an average of 61.3%.
ARB continues to be handled carefully: 54.5% after 6 matches is impressive.
Down there DEE and ANN now share the last place, at 0/0 (of course) and 68.8%.
Family tensions in Fitzgerald household today after cup match 11
Requesting a physio boost for Gary Clark Jr
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 11:
Stranraer - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Hibernian - MVP #3: 1 TP (DWW)
PET sends 275k to MOT for Joss Naylor (6/20 FW)
PET sends 500k to STE for 5 TP
Feels likes months ago since we last had a player auction π€
The following teams receive retire for apprentices through 5/13 WG not retired:
AI(-156)
Tried to retire Gallagher at AI but he's SL13 so can't retire him. We'll need the money i received for him taken from our account please.
Raith Rovers were pleased to welcome young winger Aidan Connolly to the club in exchange for some old duffers and some cash at the weekend. However he unfortunately shared a name with aging midfielder Aidan Connolly, as such as part of his contract signing he was forced to change his name to Dylan Easton, his parents weren't entirely happy but the big bucks and new car helped them get over it.
This of course led me down the rabbit hole to see if it had ever happened in real life. And of course it has. So maybe he could have kept his name, other than the utter confusion it was causing me!
There's Only Two, Sergei Ovchinnikov (s), Harry Dunn (s), Tal Ben Haim (s), Shlomi Azulay (s), Alex Young (s)
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jul/19/the-knowledge-footballers-same-name-club
#managerincompetence.
Remember to retire your players today.
I've just done mine.
The following teams receive retire for apprentices through :
AI(401) ALB(200) ANN(166) AYR(206) CEL(184) CLY(395) COW(292) DEV(171) DUU(136) EF(250) ELG(390) FAL(508) FOR(230) HAM(324) HEA(206) HIB(446) INV(122) KIL(75) NAI(134) PT(192) QOS(162) QP(136) RR(247) RAN(283) ROS(368) SRA(276)
DEV sends 85k to ALO for 1 TP
SM sends 1 CP to HAM for Dujon Sterling (5/13 DM)
Reminds me of the olde classic........."Brilliant game, Ref. Too bad you didn't see it..."
......after 6 matches, out of 16 Div One Teams only 4 have a positive GD?!?
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 2 7th June 2025:
COW(50) FAL(50)
An easier round (though I found it more difficult) with an average score of exactly 6. Only the draw between St.Mirren and Celtic was particularly elusive and the easiest to predict was St Johnstone's home win over Clydebank - though the STJ manager managed to get this one wrong.
Cowdenbeath, setting a storming pace, and Falkirk each managed eight points so it's congratulations and 50k each to Alan and Andy.
The next round is next Saturday and it features the Division 3, match 12 fixtures. The entry form is on the Notebook.
Prediction | AYR v HAM | PET v EDI | RAN v DEV | SM v CEL | STJ v CB | RR v COW | QOS v DUU | KIL v GM |
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Home | 26% | 57% | 30% | 61% | 91% | 74% | 70% | 83% |
Away | 61% | 35% | 57% | 35% | 0% | 9% | 13% | 9% |
Draw | 13% | 9% | 13% | 4% | 9% | 17% | 17% | 9% |
Banker Count |
9% | 0% | 4% | 0% | 57% | 13% | 4% | 13% |
D1 6 | D2 9 | ||||||
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Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | Total | Round 2 | ||
1 | Cowdembeath | 7 | 8 | 15 | Team | Points | |
2 | Annan | 6 | 7 | 13 | Cowdenbeath | 8 | |
2 | Motherwell | 6 | 7 | 13 | Falkirk | 8 | |
4 | Deveronvale | 6 | 6 | 12 | Annan | 7 | |
4 | Dundee | 6 | 6 | 12 | Forfar | 7 | |
4 | Falkirk | 4 | 8 | 12 | Inverness | 7 | |
4 | Inverness | 5 | 7 | 12 | Motherwell | 7 | |
4 | Queens Park | 5 | 7 | 12 | Queens Park | 7 | |
9 | Forfar | 4 | 7 | 11 | Arbroath | 6 | |
10 | Dumbarton | 4 | 6 | 10 | Deveronvale | 6 | |
10 | East Fife | 6 | 4 | 10 | Dumbarton | 6 | |
10 | Hibernian | 4 | 6 | 10 | Dundee | 6 | |
10 | Ross County | 4 | 6 | 10 | Hearts | 6 | |
10 | Stirling | 4 | 6 | 10 | Hibernian | 6 | |
15 | Ayr | 4 | 5 | 9 | Ross County | 6 | |
15 | Hearts | 3 | 6 | 9 | Stirling | 6 | |
15 | Nairn | 5 | 4 | 9 | Ayr | 5 | |
15 | Stranraer | 4 | 5 | 9 | Stranraer | 5 | |
19 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 3 | 8 | East Fife | 4 | |
20 | Rangers | 7 | 7 | Edinburgh | 4 | ||
21 | Edinburgh | 2 | 4 | 6 | Nairn | 4 | |
21 | Livingston | 3 | 3 | 6 | Livingston | 3 | |
21 | Arbroath | 6 | 6 | Partick Thistle | 3 | ||
24 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | 5 | St Johnstone | 2 | ||
24 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | ||||
26 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | 4 | ||||
27 | Queen of the South | 3 | 3 | ||||
28 | St Johnstone | 2 | 2 | ||||
29 | Brechin City | 1 | 1 |
Remember to retire your oldies people.
STI sends 350k, Jim Bowan (5/11 DF) to RAN for Terry Hurlock (1/14 DF)
BRE sends Gordon Ramsay (6/8 SD), Borja Iglesias (6/8 FW) to RAN for 125k
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 10:
Celtic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Kilmarnock - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Dunfermline Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Dww)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Not bad Andrew.
I smirked.
And I better "smirk" while I'm allowed to in this country, as they have banned smacking and smuggling.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 9:
Raith Rovers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Wdw)
Aberdeen - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Partick Thistle - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Cove Rangers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wwW)
I've got a Scottish Sheepdog. Highly intelligent and loves watching the national football team on TV. If they lose he just stays in the corner of his kennel howling all night, if they draw he just sleeps quietly. I have no idea what he does when they win as he is only 6 years old.
Steve Clarke not gonna last much longer as Scotland manager.
Slicker guy is 3rd choice GK at Ipswich who hasn't played a competitive match in 2 years. He sold 2 goals at least. Maybe all 3 he at fault last need vs Iceland.
Grant Hanley plays in 3rd tier in England but gets yet another start for his country.
Painfully slow to get subs on.
Baffling again from Steve Clarke.
RAN sends 50k to MOT for Luis Rojas (4/4 DF)
BRE sends 60k to GM for Ben Den (5/12 GK)
FAL sends 55k to FRA for Hunter Freston (5/7 DF)
It's tomorrow
It clearly states that ELG are number 1 thanks to SRA's 39% lineup. It's how many junk lineups they've faced and the average line-up percentage.
So in table below it is ELG who played against a "junk lineup"?
So table suggests ELG were lucky to play a weak opponent last week?
Remind me what "JD" means on table?
As expectable, week #2 shows up with the 1st junk lineups - 6 of them.
Still, nothing too remarkable yet.
Team | Junk | JDs | AVG |
ELG | 1 | 0 | 57,8 |
EF | 1 | 0 | 58,3 |
HIB | 1 | 0 | 60,8 |
DUM | 1 | 0 | 61,3 |
FRA | 1 | 0 | 62,5 |
NAI | 1 | 0 | 64,8 |
ARB | 0 | 0 | 59,0 |
SRA | 0 | 0 | 64,0 |
CLY | 0 | 0 | 64,5 |
HEA | 0 | 0 | 65,3 |
STE | 0 | 0 | 66,0 |
ALB | 0 | 0 | 66,5 |
LIV | 0 | 0 | 66,5 |
MOT | 0 | 0 | 66,8 |
DEE | 0 | 0 | 70,5 |
ANN | 0 | 0 | 70,8 |
ELG takes an unlikely early #1 spot, mainly thanks to SRA's impressive 39% lineup.
At the end DEE and ANN continue enjoying 70%+ averages.
yes Yes...i'm sure that the DIVISION 1 is truly wonderful....
but there are 32 managers in Division TWO and THREE that have opinions too ??
remember us ??
Russell Martin is a proven under-achiever.
Baffling appointment.
He'd struggle to get the Sesl RAN job.
Not really set the world alight as a manager 252 games 99 wins with a +5 GD. Rangers will be playing some exciting football with him in charge. I think not.
Is he really the best they can do?
Obviously didn't get my application form in the post - probably as I put a 2nd class stamp on the envelope - just to make the Ibrox hierarchy feel at ease - they've been serving up 2nd class results for a few years now.
Bill Ramsay for the top job? Interesting but then he'd need to quit SESL and give up his lucrative manager's salary. Better staying where he is and concentrate on taking HIS Rangers back to the top flight...π€π€
Russell Martin insists he knows "what this club demands" after signing a three-year contract to become Rangers' new head coach at the start of a fresh era at Ibrox.
The former Southampton and Swansea City boss emerged as the leading candidate from a recruitment process that reportedly also included former Real Madrid assistant Davide Ancelotti and former Rangers manager Bill Ramsay.
Gents ... fear not, 6 lucky mangers will again thank their lucky stars and reap the rewards of an upgrade this season! :-)
Will send out a proper blog again with all the details shortly, but likley it will run a week this Sunday (evening UK time) ... as usual the winners can back apply the upgrade to any age 0 already bought/won at auction & in training already.
The wheel of names is being readied as we speak ....
The ups and downs of the Cup.
I seriously hope that this inovation continues.
Not just because i was lucky enough to win one last season but i truly believe that it really adds a certain amount of 'Realistism' to SESL in regard to the potential to the occasional apprentice who improves beyond the average.
Non-footy fact of the day…..because its quiet….
Did you know that Lord Nelson was only 5ft tall but on Nelson's Column he's 15ft tall.
That's a Horatio of 3 to 1.
I gotta say dude.....your name is not the easiest name to spell.
But it was worth the effort re your comment...CLASSIC lol
Keep em coming Andrew.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 8:
Hibernian - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
LIV stand with Alan & Matt at this difficult time.
#PrayForYouth
I managed a smirk Andrew.
π
Did you know that Lord Nelson was only 5ft tall but on Nelson's Column he's 15ft tall.
That's a Horatio of 3 to 1.
Hope so as could do with one to help me along
Is this a thing this season?
Click on NOTEBOOK button near top right corner of this page for all the details on retiring your players for money towards apprentices.
Basically list your players being retired before kick off this Saturday on Notebook,
and then go ahead and retire those players yourself after match 10 this weekend.
The following teams receive team sponsor admin through :
DUU(100) PT(100) STE(100)
The following teams receive Team Sponsor Bid through :
ABE(-75) ALO(-41) ANN(-101) ARB(-55) BRE(-41) COV(-76) COW(-22) DEV(-136) DEE(-151) DUU(-136) DFA(-75) EF(-55) EST(-100) ELG(-154) FAL(-1) GM(-1) HEA(-113) HIB(-1) INV(-51) KIL(-76) LIV(-54) MOT(-101) NAI(-55) PT(-56) QOS(-75) RAN(-46) ROS(-51) STJ(-75) STE(-101) STI(-1)
Thanks to Raymond, Ricky & Mark B for collating all the sponsor bids.
My fault was not giving clear rules on tied bids, so apologies to the 3 guys.
I agree with Colin and Paul tied bids ought pay the full amount, so Div 2 lot 5 QOS & STJ pay higher 75k amount, and Div 3 lot 2 has DFA & ABE paying higher 75k amount too. As a result, FAL claim lot 3 for 1k as noted by Mark B on follow up blog.
.....even the Anti-depressant pharmaceutical company wasn't interested in the Blues........
Sorry, just thought I was following Mark and his results with this. TBC I guess?
And at 2k per blog we will look forward to many of them - you will earn your sponsorship.. :-)
Only kidding - should raise the 100k in participation fees inside 4 weeks max - 2 if you put 2 full journals and around 3 blogs per week...
Well bad luck guys Albion won or lost the sponsorship auction so guess your going to have to deal with my blog posts until I hit 100k again.
Sorry, formatting didnt copy over
See below for Division 2 sponsor results.
Please check for errors.
Lot | Sponsor | AYR | CEL | CB | COW | DEV | DUU | EDI | GM | HAM | KIL | PET | QOS | RR | RAN | STJ | SM | Winner | Amount |
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 88 | 242 | 135 | DEV | 136 | |||||||||||||
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 88 | 242 | 202 | 42 | 135 | 75 | DUU | 136 | ||||||||||
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 45 | 37 | 55 | RAN | 46 | |||||||||||||
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 135 | 55 | 75 | KIL | 76 | |||||||||||||
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 45 | 155 | 163 | 31 | 50 | 95 | 75 | 55 | 75 | QOS, STJ | 51 | |||||||
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 50 | 55 | 75 | GM | 1 | |||||||||||||
7 | Have >=3 age 0 SL10+ last day season | 43 | 50 | 75 | |||||||||||||||
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 102 | 88 | 50 | 55 | ||||||||||||||
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | ||||||||||||||||||
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | 28 | 102 | 89 | 21 | 50 | 26 | 35 | 75 | COW | 22 | ||||||||
Earn 100k in Participation Bonus |
Lot | Sponsor | Winner | Amount |
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | DEV | 136 |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | DUU | 136 |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | RAN | 46 |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | KIL | 76 |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | QOS, STJ | 51 |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | GM | 1 |
7 | Have >=3 age 0 SL10+ last day season | ||
8 | Team DP <= 200 | ||
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | ||
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | COW | 22 |
Earn 100k in Participation Bonus |
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9 Teams bid, 8 of which won something
Bank balance didn’t limit any bids.
Lot 7, 8 & 9 go begging
Earn 100k in participation bonus default sponsor goes to AYR, CEL, CB, EDI, HAM, PET, RR, SM
Inthat case then I think this would mean
Lot 2 DFA & ABE for 67k
Lot 3 FAL 1k
No other changes needed.
Mark, Wiki rules say this....
"If 2 teams winning bids are tied then both team win that sponsor."
Couple of blogs below, 1 with tables showing all bids and winning bids against nearest.
2nd shows table of winners with final winning amount payable.
Couple of things will need checked. In event of tie between DFA and ABE for lot 2 I've awarded to DFA as lowest placed team in the league. Not sure if that was the tie-breaker or not.
Also winning bid would normally be 1 more than next highest bid. Not sure if in event of tie if the tied amount is the one we take into account or next lowest. I've left DFA amount payable as 75 but could be 67 if we ignore tied amount
1 |
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COV | 76 | |
2 |
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DFA | 75 | |
3 |
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ABE | 60 | |
4 |
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PT | 56 | |
5 |
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EST | 100 | |
6 |
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ROS | 51 | |
7 |
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INV | 51 | |
8 |
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BRE | 41 | |
9 |
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STI | 1 | |
10 |
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ALO | 41 |
Lot | FAL | INV | EST | STI | BRE | DFA | PT | ROS | COV | ALO | ABE | QP | ||
1 |
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75 | 100 | 75 | ||||||||||
2 |
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75 | 66 | 75 | ||||||||||
3 |
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59 | 75 | |||||||||||
4 |
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66 | 55 | |||||||||||
5 |
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100 | 99 | |||||||||||
6 |
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50 | 55 | |||||||||||
7 |
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128 | 50 | |||||||||||
8 |
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50 | 40 | |||||||||||
9 |
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1 | ||||||||||||
10 |
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50 | 40 |
116 | 475 | 892 | 549 | 476 | 967 | 621 | 671 | 932 | 1373 | 721 | 556 | |||
FAL | INV | EST | STI | BRE | DFA | PT | ROS | COV | ALO | ABE | QP | |||
1 | Team Goals > =60 | 49 | 75 | 100 | 75 | |||||||||
2 | 1 Player 4 MOM | 55 | 75 | 66 | 100 | 50 | 75 | |||||||
3 | Top 6 Finish | 59 | 75 | 100 | 75 | |||||||||
4 | 3 Clean Sheets | 75 | 66 | 55 | 100 | 75 | ||||||||
5 | Unbeaten 3 | 39 | 100 | 75 | 55 | 100 | 99 | 75 | 40 | |||||
6 | Last 16 Cup | 41 | 50 | 66 | 55 | |||||||||
7 | 3 Age 0 SL10+ | 128 | 100 | 26 | 50 | |||||||||
8 | Team DP <=200 | 29 | 25 | 20 | 50 | 66 | 25 | 40 | ||||||
9 | Have 10 OTF | 40 | 1 | 50 | ||||||||||
10 | Team Goals >= 25 | 34 | 50 | 30 | 50 | 66 | 50 | 40 |
Winner in yellow cell is 1k over 2nd top valid bid.
Once a team wins a lot, then all later bids are striked thru.
Please glance over methodology and report any corrections needed.
After 24 hours I shall assume results are final
and suggest winning bid money is deducted.
11 teams win a sponsor lot.
5 teams get default sponsor of do 100k participation and earn another 100k bonus.
lot | win | |
1 | 101 | MOT |
2 | 154 | ELG |
3 | 113 | HEA |
4 | 151 | DEE |
5 | 101 | STE |
6 | 101 | ANN |
7 | 1 | HIB |
8 | 54 | LIV |
9 | 55 | ARB |
10 | 55 | EF&NAI |
There were a healthy 27 entries to get us underway. Elgin City's entry was posted after the deadline and therefore void.
With results of seven homes and one away, it was a little surprising to see a low average score of 4.51. Everyone correctly predicted Motherwell to beat Dumbarton, and that accounted for 59% of the banker choices. At the other end of the scale, the home wins for Albion and Stenhousemuir were the most difficult to predict, with just two managers getting it right in each case.
Two managers managed to start with seven points, so congratulations to Bill at Rangers and Alan at Cowdenbeath, who earn 50k each for their clubs.
Round two is next Saturday (7th June) and the entry form is on the Notebook.
Prediction | ALB v DEE | EF v ARB | FRA v ANN | HIB v CLY | MOT v DUM | SRA v ELG | STE v HEA | NAI v LIV |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 7% | 41% | 85% | 63% | 100% | 70% | 7% | 44% |
Away | 81% | 44% | 11% | 19% | 0% | 26% | 93% | 41% |
Draw | 11% | 15% | 4% | 19% | 0% | 4% | 0% | 15% |
Banker Count | 0% | 4% | 11% | 0% | 59% | 4% | 7% | 15% |
Team | Points |
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Rangers | 7 |
Cowdembeath | 7 |
East Fife | 6 |
Motherwell | 6 |
Deveronvale | 6 |
Dundee | 6 |
Annan | 6 |
East Stirlingshire | 5 |
Partick Thistle | 5 |
Nairn | 5 |
Inverness | 5 |
Queens Park | 5 |
Elgin City | 5 |
Hibernian | 4 |
Stirling | 4 |
Stranraer | 4 |
Falkirk | 4 |
Ayr | 4 |
Stenhousemuir | 4 |
Dumbarton | 4 |
Ross County | 4 |
Forfar | 4 |
Livingston | 3 |
Queen of the South | 3 |
Hearts | 3 |
Edinburgh | 2 |
Brechin City | 1 |
The following teams receive Prediction League through :
COW(50) RAN(50)
There were a healthy 27 entries to get us underway. Elgin City's entry was posted after the deadline and therefore void.
With results of seven homes and one away, it was a little surprising to see a low average score of 4.51. Everyone correctly predicted Motherwell to beat Dumbarton, and that accounted for 59% of the banker choices. At the other end of the scale, the home wins for Albion and Stenhousemuir were the most difficult to predict, with just two managers getting it right in each case.
Two managers managed to start with seven points, so congratulations to Bill at Rangers and Alan at Cowdenbeath, who earn 50k each for their clubs.
Round two is next Saturday (7th June) and the entry form is on the Notebook.
Prediction | ALB v DEE | EF v ARB | FRA v ANN | HIB v CLY | MOT v DUM | SRA v ELG | STE v HEA | NAI v LIV |
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Home | 7% | 41% | 85% | 63% | 100% | 70% | 7% | 44% |
Away | 81% | 44% | 11% | 19% | 0% | 26% | 93% | 41% |
Draw | 11% | 15% | 4% | 19% | 0% | 4% | 0% | 15% |
Banker Count | 0% | 4% | 11% | 0% | 59% | 4% | 7% | 15% |
Team | Points |
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Rangers | 7 |
Cowdembeath | 7 |
East Fife | 6 |
Motherwell | 6 |
Deveronvale | 6 |
Dundee | 6 |
Annan | 6 |
East Stirlingshire | 5 |
Partick Thistle | 5 |
Nairn | 5 |
Inverness | 5 |
Queens Park | 5 |
Elgin City | 5 |
Hibernian | 4 |
Stirling | 4 |
Stranraer | 4 |
Falkirk | 4 |
Ayr | 4 |
Stenhousemuir | 4 |
Dumbarton | 4 |
Ross County | 4 |
Forfar | 4 |
Livingston | 3 |
Queen of the South | 3 |
Hearts | 3 |
Edinburgh | 2 |
Brechin City | 1 |
Div 1 sponsorships is going to be a fight with 13 teams bidding.
(Don't worry if your bids are sat unread chaps, it's just so I don't miss the sponsor bids amongst all the inbox trade chat.)
1 hour til deadline (same as 3pm kickoff, mainland European timezone I think)
A few votes for HIB in poll noted as "other".
David may enjoy 25k x 30 league game gate receipt bonus and decide Div 2 maybe isn't for him afterall!
4 games in and yes, we look good, well, decent. But this is a marathon, not a sprint, and the schedule of opponents also has to do with first results.
I did think games v Clyde and Arbroath might provide a point, and certainly not 6. What this does is give me a nice buffer for later problems. If I decide to stay in the 1st division then 10th is the lowest I want to be - if it goes pear shaped then I won't be upset. For now, having earned 2 TPs and 50k for MVPs is the good news.
But thanks for pointing out this will be the best we will get..I have a photo right now!! :-)
QP sends Cal Raleigh (5/13 GK) to DUM for 30k, Thomas Bellamy (2/10 DF)
....no mention of HIBs or the mighty ELG.........?
FAL sends 115k to FRA for Alejandro Balde (5/7 DF), Tom Marquand (7/11 FW)
Only 6 teams bidding so far.
FAL, INV, EST, STI, BRE and DFA.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 7:
East Fife - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Elgin City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Edinburgh City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Queen of the South - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwW)
Inverness - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
East Stirlingshire - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 6:
Nairn County - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Deveronvale - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wDw)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Falkirk - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Wdw)
6 in so far, load left to come....?
We've got: GM, DEV, QoS. EDI, RAN, STJ
Dont miss out!
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru May 25th:
ALO(50) ARB(20) DEV(20) EF(20) EDI(25) FAL(25) FRA(10) GM(10) HIB(50) MOT(50) PT(10) QOS(10) ROS(20) STI(15) SRA(50)
Only 6 teams bidding so far.
FAL, INV, EST, STI, BRE and DFA.
PET sends 5 CP, Sam Gormley (3/25 DF) to RAN for John Brown (2/26 SD)
The reminder's in the title....only seven entries so far
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through 29th May ...:
ABE(200) ANN(200) COW(200) DUU(200) HEA(200) INV(200) LIV(200) NAI(200) RR(200)
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row from match 5 | 400k |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 matches from match 5 | 300k |
ANN sends 30k, 8 TP to INV for Hugh Jass (4/26 GK)
Seems a blip on auction offerings. Perhaps edited down to make space?
But if those are the offers, then so be it.
Even if a team has already achieved a sponsor criteria they STILL need to win the sponsor.
So do you bid 200k, 300k, or 350k for a 400k win?
While others win a lower value sponsor for 1k or 50k, but make a far higher profit then those bidding high ?
That's the gamble.
FRA sends 700k, 6 TP, Inaki Pena (6/10 GK) to HEA for Michael McIntyre (2/23 GK)
Eduard, with the best T11 and a lot of CP to back that up you can probably win all the 400k offers - well you've made one of them already, and your keeper just needs one more MoM. Top 6 is certain if you don't want to do a Spurs and concentrate on the cups. Maybe 60 goals if the only risky one.
Luckily for the rest of Division One you can only make 5 bids.
> I just need to know if I can safely bid on it.
Definitely and clearly.
The offers are there, e.g. "Unbeaten streak of 3 games", not "Unbeaten streak of 3 league games after match 9".
Bids were already made for those offers - and would have to be reevaluated, for no serious reason.
Maybe next season the offers will be corrected, but at least this season DEE is very unlikely to go for "DP <= 200" again.
In recent seasons "three games unbeaten " and "three clean sheets in a row" have started after the bids but there's no mention of it this time. Alloa *and others) already have 3 games unbeaten. I just need to know if I can safely bid on it.
Also, about 6 or 7 teams are pretty much guaranteed a top 16 Cecil Cup spot, but I can't remember if this was always the case or were just a bit late this season.
Div 1 teams with bids banked:-
ARB HEA HIB LIV SRA
________________________________________
Send up to 5 bids via team inbox please by Sun 1st June, 15:00
to the manager who is doing your division. 10 lots are available to bid on.
PT Raymond Div 1
STE Ricky Div 2
DUU Mark Boland Div 3
(bid money deducted xx/xx/25)
Any team not winning an auction lot will be allocated the back-up default lot for participation bonus.
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 400k | -- -- |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 400k | -- -- |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | -- -- |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 400k |
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5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 300k | -- -- |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | -- -- |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | -- -- |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | -- -- |
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | 200k | -- -- |
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | 200k | -- -- |
Earn 100k in participation bonus to win another 100k sponsor money Div 1: Div 2: Div 3: |
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The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 5:
Motherwell - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Stranraer - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Dundee FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwW)
Hibernian - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwW)
Failed to shut down the blog page on my phone which causes a double post when opening the tab later. Sorry.
Today is the last opportunity for teams that haven't updated their Bios (both to get cash) and team needs for this season. Many teams earned the shekels last week and tomorrow morning will see the last payments made.
Do it today - I get up early so if you think you'll slip it on first thing, you just might miss out...π€π€
Easy money - some teams haven't updated for seasons. At 200k per season that's averaging 500k per year. π
MOT have no chance.....their only 5 points off the relegation zone.......
EF sends 210k to STI for 2 CP
Poll vote going to form I think.
EST sends 3 CP, Ruben Dias (3/26 DF) to RAN for Robin Propper (2/26 DF)
DEE sends 215k to EDI for Peter Shilton (5/16 GK)
won't be seen this season - at least not presented by me.
Anyone interested can still get the tools. So far there didn't seem to be any major demand.
Be seeing you ...
As in real life, there are many kinds of junk, as ...
- any lineup with less than 50% of total SL, simply because you could have done better AND risk a blowout fine
- lineups between 50% and 60%, given certain junk factors (especially passive play and / or weak GK)
- any other lineup, which is obviously junk: given enough suspensions and injuries even a 100% lineup can be complete junk!
Shortly, anything I consider junk enough is considered junk.
Quite likely, almost everybody would consider some lineups junk I wouldn't and vice versa.
Do I care? Not at all.
The 1st week of the clever management ranking is obviously boring:
with a full squad of EL10 players there are rarely reasons to field junk lineups.
Nonetheless the results ...
Jk JDs AVG
ARB 0 0 61,0
EF 0 0 62,5
CLY 0 0 63,5
HIB 0 0 65,0
ELG 0 0 65,5
HEA 0 0 66,5
LIV 0 0 66,5
DUM 0 0 68,0
MOT 0 0 68,5
SRA 0 0 68,5
NAI 0 0 69,5
STE 0 0 69,5
ALB 0 0 71,5
FRA 0 0 72,0
DEE 0 0 75,5
ANN 0 0 78,5
No surprise: no junk in week 1 - even if some lineups came quite close.
Thus no leader in the "classic" ranking yet.
As a new feature I have included the average opponent SL% used, as shown in the match reports.
While this is generally a silly and problematic metric - it's better than anything else readily available.
And already a familiar face up front: last season's everybody's darling ARB, facing a surprising low 61%.
It's quite surprising that any team faces such lineups in week 1, let alone a rather mediocre team facing two of them.
On the other end, ANN and DEE "enjoyed" 75%+ lineups - in both cases even spiced up by huge (and unsustainable) home bonus payments in their away matches.
As a special bonus, the (hard to find) definitions and explanations have been reposted.
So Raymond pulls of a W for the final gameweek of the season.
A tough 3 months coming up with no EPL.
Raymond Cini 11
Alon Atie 10
Paul Cockyne 8.5
David Blair 7.5
Andrew Foss Grant 7.5
Cameron Archibald 7.0
Andrew McCumiskey 6.0
Andy Shaw 4.0
ALB sends 265k to STE for 3 TP
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru May 18th:
ALB(10) ALO(50) ARB(25) CLY(10) DUM(30) DEE(30) EF(10) EDI(25) FOR(10) FRA(10) HIB(50) LIV(30) NAI(10) PT(30) RR(20) STE(10) SRA(20)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru May 11th:
ALO(25) DEE(15) DUU(20) EF(20) EST(15) EDI(10) FRA(30) HEA(30) HIB(45) LIV(20) MOT(25) PT(10) RAN(30) STJ(20) SM(10) STI(20) SRA(35)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru May 4th:
ANN(10) ARB(20) AYR(20) COW(10) DUM(10) DEE(25) EF(40) EDI(40) HEA(10) HIB(50) INV(10) KIL(10) LIV(10) PET(10) QP(10) RR(10) RAN(10) SM(20) STE(40) SRA(10)
DEE sends 170k to ALO for 2 TP
Bournemouth 3-0 Leicester City
Fulham 1-3 Man City
Ipswich Town 1-2 West Ham
Liverpool 3-3 Crystal Palace
Man United 0-3 Aston Villa
Newcastle 4-0 Everton
Nottingham Forest 2-1 Chelsea
Southampton 0-3 Arsenal
Tottenham 0-2 Brighton
Wolves 2-3 Brentford
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 4:
Celtic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Peterhead - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
It will go to 3pm GMT in October when the hour goes back - but a POLL for a permanent 3pm KO time I'm for it!!
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 3:
Deveronvale - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Greenock Morton - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Cove Rangers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Dunfermline Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Campaign for kick off 1 hour early for traditional real life 3pm British football times?
...until the league kicks off.
Why does it seem to take ages between games when you are up for it again. The past couple of seasons I pretty much went through the motions, hardly posting anything until near the end of last season, and welcomed the week between matches. It would often be Friday night or Saturday morning when I put my orders in.
But now orders are in early as I eagerly wait for the next set of results, checking on the site several times a day.
Oh how it drags when you're clock watching.
Keep 'em coming, I at least laugh at them.. ππππ
A reminder that we start next Saturday (31st) with Division 1 fixtures. The entry form is on the Notebook.
Rules and schedule are unchanged from last season.
DEE sends 200k to STI for 2 CP
DEE sends 100k to STI for 1 CP
Disgusting act of crime today on the eve of the new season. It was reported that the beloved SRA Chairman accidentally left two new season tickets on the dashboard of his Roller while parked outside Stair Park. Some yobs smashed the window and left two more.
The following teams receive Cup Draw Participation through cecil cup last 32:
BRE(25) PT(25)
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through 22/5/25 :
ALO(200) RAN(200)
Something fishy going on here.
We play AI. Both of us beat the two Queen's teams and we both play Aberdeen and Berwick in the league next. Surely not a coincidence.
Steve,
If you scroll down on the league home page, you can see the draw for the last 32 in grid form now.
Any idea when this will be announced? My tactics this weekend will depend on who we play.
Division One teams have it easy: they can play T11 anyway as it's only their third game but us poor sods in the lower divisions will already have played 4 games and have some knackered players.
I did mine ages ago but didn't post it on here because we were told not to.
Now paid for the 1st instance.
2nd and FINAL payout will be made at this time next Thursday morning (29th) - but assume Wednesday midnight as per Mark's instructions - I might not get to sleep so could be doing this just after the midnight hour... and 200k is not to be sneezed at.
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through 22nd May - bios updates season 59:
ALB(200) ARB(200) AYR(200) BRE(200) CLY(200) DEV(200) DUM(200) DEE(200) DFA(200) EF(200) EDI(200) ELG(200) FAL(200) FOR(200) FRA(200) HAM(200) HIB(200) MOT(200) PT(200) PET(200) QOS(200) QP(200) ROS(200) STJ(200) SM(200) STE(200) STI(200) SRA(200)
Hopefully beat the deadline! :)
Both updated for the new season
done :)
ALO sends Joseph Jacobssen (4/25 MF) to EDI for 500k, Vic Watson (4/19 WG)
Bournemouth 4-2 Leicester City
Fulham 0-3 Man City
Ipswich Town 2-2 West Ham
Liverpool 3-2 Crystal Palace
Man United 1-1 Aston Villa
Newcastle 4-1 Everton
Nottingham Forest 2-3 Chelsea
Southampton 1-3 Arsenal
Tottenham 1-2 Brighton
Wolves 2-2 Brentford
....it has been a seemingly long time. In the days when nobody understood tariffs, Spain had a good power supply, we had Skype, the Mexican Navy was a force to be reckoned with, Palace didn't have a trophy room and the Pope was 20 years older......
Also done. Good season ahead all!
Well. There we are again. A new season ahead of us.
All of us with high hopes and so on. The season update and bio are finished btw.
All the best of luck. And on forehand, Mark and all other stepping up to keep this running. THANKS!
For not wanting to play in the top division - the season starts without you.. it's a long week waiting for divs 2 and 3 to play off their CECIL Cup 1st round ties.
Remember if you want any payment for your bios updates prior to this weekend's auction (mention the new season in ALL of them) then today is your last day 1st payment is tomorrow morning - cut off Wednesday night.
Bournemouth 3-1 Leicester City
Fulham 1-2 Man City
Ipswich Town 2-1 West Ham
Liverpool 3-1 Crystal Palace
Man United 0-8 Aston Villa
Newcastle 1-1 Everton
Nottingham Forest 2-3 Chelsea
Southampton 0-4 Arsenal
Tottenham 0-2 Brighton
Wolves 2-1 Brentford
Bournemouth 3-1 Leicester City
Fulham 1-2 Man City
Ipswich Town 2-1 West Ham
Liverpool 3-1 Crystal Palace
Man United 0-2 Aston Villa
Newcastle 3-0 Everton
Nottingham Forest 2-3 Chelsea
Southampton 1-1 Arsenal
Tottenham 1-1 Brighton
Wolves 2-1 Brentford
Bournemouth 1 - 0 Leicester City
Fulham 0 - 1 Man. City
Ipswich Town 0 - 2 West Ham
Liverpool 3 - 0 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Newcastle 2 - 1 Everton
Nottingham Forest 1 - 3 Chelsea
Southampton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Tottenham 1 - 2 Brighton
Wolves 1 - 1 Brentford
Bournemouth 1 - 0 Leicester City
Fulham 2 - 1 Man. City
Ipswich Town 0 - 2 West Ham
Liverpool 3 - 0 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 4 Aston Villa
Newcastle 2 - 1 Everton
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Chelsea
Southampton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Tottenham 1 - 2 Brighton
Wolves 1 - 1 Brentford
I can see how you look at this from the outside. As a Dutchman and Ajax fan myself it was even more remarkable to see Ajax top of the table.
Ajax had been in a major crisis past 3 seasons, only this season stability has come back a bit at the top. And Farioli, a 36y/o Italian and former Nice coach managed to go above and beyond to get this collection of mediocre players function as a team of worriers. Not once have the fans seen the play we expect from Ajax. Johan Cruijff would have never allowed this, that's for sure. But it is exactly what was needed this season to bring back stability.
PSV Eindhoven, with the typical Ajax coach Peter Bosz as head coach are by far the best playing team in Holland at the moment. Injuries and too much confidence after the winterstop let Ajax take the lead who were 9 points behind at that time, creating a 9 point gap the other way. Undeserved! Crazy!
Head coach Farioli, 9 points clear, 7 games to play, never wanted to mention the title. All he said was 'the goal is qualifying for the Champions League' (P2). And that's exactly what he did. He threw away the 2 games before last with questionable lineups and tactics which gave PSV the opportunity to climb on top again. And now it's sour grapes.
Anyhow, Ajax never should've been in this position to begin with. Absolutely not equipped for this at all. This morning Farioli announced he will leave Ajax effective immediately. Rumour has it Eric ten Hag will take the reigns once more, Hendo will be let go and Dusan Tadic will join.
We'll see what happens, but hopefully the shit show is in the past now.
Last month in the Netherlands Ajax of Amsterday were 9 points ahead with just 7 games to play.
Ajax somehow managed to NOT win the title yesterday.
Remarkable.
Bournemouth 0 - 0 Leicester City
Fulham 1 - 2 Man. City
Ipswich Town 1 - 0 West Ham
Liverpool 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Newcastle 4 - 0 Everton
Nottingham Forest 1 - 2 Chelsea
Southampton 0 - 4 Arsenal
Tottenham 3 - 0 Brighton
Wolves 1 - 1 Brentford
Our league has gotten going just in time to do 1 final predictions before the end of the EPL season.
All ten games will be played similtaneously on Sunday afternoon.
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Leicester City
Fulham 1 - 2 Man. City
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 West Ham
Liverpool 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Man. United 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Newcastle 2 - 0 Everton
Nottingham Forest 1 - 2 Chelsea
Southampton 0 - 2 Arsenal
Tottenham 1 - 2 Brighton
Wolves 1 - 2 Brentford
Just noticed it -like it -reckon our 6th place is about as high as we could expect at any point in the season, and even that will need Olmec liking us. ππ
All updated for St Mirren ready for new season.
DEE sends 306k to SM for 3 CP
It's all explained extensively below.
STRG-F 'Clever Management' or 'Junk' should be sufficient.
If nicknames are getting updated can I put in a shout for Nairns to be sorted. The NAI isnt going to catch on, always been The Wee County.
Just noticed it -like it -reckon our 6th place is about as high as we could expect at any point in the season, and even that will need Olmec liking us. ππ
I would say my 50% lineups but all passive would count as junk, but teams with large squads could play below 50% but pretty much T17. (In OASL where youth squads must keep 25 players it can be difficult to avoid getting below 50%). Seems to me that top of this table is teams that have been lucky enough to face the most junk teams.
I don't understand what this "junks" means.
Is it when a team plays weak themselves, or when a team plays against a team who plays weak?
What is definition of junk? 40% played? Maybe under 50% played ?
Maybe the basics of this system can be posted at start of season to allow some understanding of what it all means.
PT have moved quickly today to confirm our delight to the league table alphabetical reversal thingy placings.
PT sitting in 4th spot currently may well be as good as it gets this season.
I happened to notice that the current league tables are ordered with the team alphabetically first at the top, and alphabetically last at the bottom. Unsurprising. But the second team alphabetically is placed 15th, the third 14th and so on up the 15th placed team being placed 2nd. Can anyone offer an explanation?
ALO sends Graham Rice (2/19 MF) to QOS for 80k, George Reid (2/18 DF)
We've seen 98 junk lineups during this season - which makes a junk ratio of 20.4%.
Each team should have seen 6.1 junk lineups against them.
This puts everyone between #4 and #14 (8 to 3 junk seen) within random noise territory.
Even #15 and #16 with 2 junks aren't significantly off.
Of course, you wouldn't even expect an even distribution.
If you play against a strong team and expect to lose anyway, there's not much point in not playing junk.
This somewhat shows up in the junk table - more strong teams in the upper, more weak teams in the lower half.
However, it is a very weak correlation.
MOT - who fielded the strongest average lineup by far - ended up playing just 5 junk.
Rebuilding HEA fielded mediocre lineups at best - and played 11 junks.
Interestingly, the strongest correlation by far is between # junk played and luck!
The top 3 of the junk table are exactly the same as in the luck table.
It almost seems that some managers might think that having lucky rolls in SESL suggests some skill involved.
It does not.
Summing up, though, I'm rather content with how this table turned out.
Maybe even presenting this table regularly might have resulted in not always the same teams getting those 3 point gifts.
The especially smelly junk duels showed up at 8.6%.
I'd prefer a lower number, but nothing too suspicious.
We'll see how this will turn out next season.
DEE sends 3 CP to ABE for 5 TP
With the 11th best T11 in the division I think FRA will need to be pleased with a top half finish. Tipping us as favourites is madness I tell Ya.
There is a buzz about the place now season has kicked off.
Steve, could it be it was changed as it was felt Alloa weren't actually stinging anybody these days. Okay, I apologise - totally unfair and tbh I've always known them as the Wasps - Allowegians sounds like an ancient club and too close to Glaswegians. That's a name few outside Scotlands 2nd city would want. ππππ
I note that Alloa's nickname is The Allowegians but everywhere I look it seems we are known as The Wasps. Even the team logo would suggest that.
So can we have our nickname changed please.
AI sends 100k to HIB for Nicky Cadden (1/10 MF)
Busy team trading since window was opened.
Most trades at start of a season since records began?
AI sends 100k to LIV for Rob Beckett (1/10 DF)
ALB sends 150k to DFA for Gussie Dey (6/14 MF)
HEA sends 4 CP to ABE for 7 TP
PT sends 5 CP to ABE for 10 TP
Interesting choice? Both teams have scary looking attacks but both have ageing Keepers and little or no defence. Is this the modern trend? Let's see how they get on against the mighty Blues.......I would not be swapping with either given the option. The Jam Tarts however look a far more balanced side.
Both done and updated here at Albion Rovers. Whoevers doing the cup draws can we please rig it so we get to thrash East Stirlingshire, has been far too long since we have at the chance to do this!
If you want to see some serious smacktalk you know what you need to do!
With top 10 finishes in the last 7 seasons in Div 1, FRA must be front runners for the Div 1 title. Alon seems to be on the brink of stardom.
Meanwhile MOT are statically the strongest side in Sesl. But does Andrew focus on the league title, or use his EL mainly in both cup competitions. Dilemma.
Now is the time to do your Bios updates - teams review/preview and personal bios (and team needs).
Remember to quote in each part the new season number - and teams who have already completed theirs (yippee, that's me) need not mention it - Mark is going to do a first payout on them on 21st May (next Wednesday) with a final payout the following Wednesday 28th May. The first one is before auction 1 and the final one is before the sponsors auction - he has planned the dates accordingly.
Now, please note the dates - they are close so don't think you can wait a fortnight before doing them - 28th May is the deadline..π°π°
BRE sends Ewan Loudon (5/20 FW) to AYR for 4 TP
FRA sends Terrassa Martinez (2/26 SW) to DEV for 800k, Gabriel Mendoza (4/21 SW)
16 teams from 32 ready to go with lineups safely in.
Us division 1'ers shall watch on
as you earn gate receipts x 2 π€£
LIV sends 7 CP to RAN for 9 TP
DEE sends 90k to STE for 1 TP
DEE sends 180k to STE for 2 TP
HIB sends 120k to STE for Connor McManus (6/6 FW), Aidan Fitzpatrick (6/9 FW)
When are we likely to receive the 'About & Bio' update payments ?
PT sends John Collins (2/24 MF) to HIB for 5 CP, Russell Latapy (4/25 MF)
I'd vote for Robin Hood max 4000k to stay, and enforce the rule "24 hours to trade away excess bank or resources over 50" (not a direct quote)
Pre season shouldn't open before end of season awards handed out, and then big money teams can buy their CP bundle, or an apprentice, or trade - to bring them within limits.
No teams need hoard cash over 4000k really.
Need give the weaker teams a fighting chance to progress also.
There have been a few calls for scrapping this rule. Personally I'd rather have a Tax man so the cash doesn't just go to teams that don't try that had a bad season.
But there has to be something to stop teams hoarding cash. Because of a couple of agreed trades I can easily finish this season with 5000k, probably more if I sold one of my age 1 wingers. Spend 1500k on pre-season and add another 3500k, and I'll have 7000k at the start of season 61.
FRA sends 300k to COW for Pau Cubarsi (1/12 DF)
Window open for a week or so after the last game of the season. Then closed for pre-season.
That seems the best compromise. Maintain competition integrity but allow some cash income from sales before pre-season. I could have done with that - 20CPs is not good.
....Well David did anyway.
I like your idea - covers end of season panic buying and allows for clubs selling players to get funds in for CPs after the last fixture, plus it allows teams going into Robin Hood territory to get rid of extra cash they sometimes don't realise they've won which puts them over the limit. That cash spend will help 2 clubs at a time.
I like your idea - covers end of season panic buying and allows for clubs selling players to get funds in for CPs after the last fixture, plus it allows teams going into Robin Hood territory to get rid of extra cash they sometimes don't realise they've won which puts them over the limit. That cash spend will help 2 clubs at a time.
Poll vote looks fairly conclusive thus far.
I like to shut the window towards end of season as is currently, but then open up quickly after and before the pre-season closes.
This resolves the issue ABE & RAN have today being unable to buy block of pre season CP. They simply sell a player for the cash they need for CP.
I remember a situation in SFLSL where a team was in the cup final but their big GK was either injured or suspended. So they swapped GKs (and added either cash or a resource or two) with another team that has finished their season.
Of course they won the cup final. I believe that here the teams still have their new GKs.
I don't like the rule in SFLSL but am not saying it should be changed. And I certainly don't think the current trade rule should be changed here.
I have enjoyed reading the comments in the current poll. Some I have found interesting in themselves but others have a simple question - why not?
Well, here is an example of why not (or perhaps why!) but there are a few.
The trade window closes towards the end of the season because some teams will be pushing for something (league title, promotion, aviod relegation or a cup win) while others will have nothing to play for. Without the trade ban a team could trade in a big player or two to get them 'over the line' in whatever endeavour they are trying for.
In SFLSL there is no none trade window and I saw recently a team in a big match had there GK suspended so they just bought in an even better GK. Cleverly, that manager kept the suspended GK and after the match, when the suspension had been spent, he sold the GK to the team from where he had bought the other GK. That team then has GK ready to play in their next game.
If you like that then you know what to do.
Still BRE, DFA, and COV to do theirs... and only tonight to do it. I guess if they don't they won't have a Captain or multiple CPs (but quite a bit of money..π°).
Looks like players that were registered before season 18 (at Deverovale anyway) we're deleted from the system. Deveronvale only have one GK in season 18 in the history. I checked Inverness, my previous club, where I looked for familiar names and there was no one.
I'm pretty sure it used to be an option. I seem to remember my first season at Deveronvale (the first season fully online) that I had a Bosman GK. I think I stopped TPing him at 1/25. I'll see if I can find him in the history.
I was going for a GK bossman (had the name picked and all) but was surprised to see that it is not an option...
Can't think of a good reasoning behind it...
So I'm with Colin here.
Never I have ever noticed that you can't pick a GK. I have never considered it until today and it would have been handy in the current DUM set up but I guess Jean-Marc wasn't out to help GKs.
I was going to do them, but now named and shamed 14th it is. I have no deals pending so it is to my advantage to delay. Unless someone wants to make an offer.
All the best James ;-) (the Colin Scott get out of jail wink)
I was going to do them, but now named and shamed 14th it is. I have no deals pending so it is to my advantage to delay. Unless someone wants to make an offer.
All the best James ;-) (the Colin Scott get out of jail wink)
I think RAN may have done pre season as has a Bosman player added.
I think it's too early to name and shame
DUM ABE DFA COV RR MON & BRE
8
(At what point do we name and shame?)
38 teams sitting pretty having completed pre season CP purchase and free Bosman player.
Let's get this trade window open soon chaps.
We all jest about game money and not having enough of it to buy CP. This game exists bacause Mark has to fork out REAL cash. So please do as John says and find some odd coins lost behind sofa or rob your Granny. If we all chip in something it will keep this wonderful game alive!
Consider throwing a fiver towards game hosting costs if you are able.
Mark told me tonight just 3 managers had donated so far ahead of new season.
Below a copy paste from main front Web page
Donate towards server costs:-
https://paypal.me/SESL
I'm all for flexibility when it comes to rules, but having previously found myself on the wrong side of one, I'm always cautious about how much we alter the framework of the game. The games has run for over 50 league seasons because it’s great as it is.
Rules can evolve, but changes should apply for next season — not pre / mid-season. For every team that benefits now, there’s another that’s disadvantaged simply for having complied with the rules as they were stated.
As for the Pre-Match Trade, it protects the integrity of the game.
Regarding pre-season resources, I’m happy for teams to buy what they can afford, even if that's five CP. I’m personally not a fan of loans, but I understand others may see it differently.
No need William. I'll help Bill out and send some CP his way once transfer window opens.
It's honourable Bill cares so much about progressing his RAN team, and while I have no idea what RAN spent his bank money on last month of last season, I'm sure he'll have a few players on trade list soon.
I think Bill Ramsey should Quit as he suggested.he might.
Not being cheeky, but can I get a loan for CP? β€οΈ
Half the teams have completed pre season requests
PRE SEASON PROCESS
open until 14th May 2025
Click on "Transactions" and then button "pre season"
Select your team captain age 5+ (drop down list)
CP purchase (drop down list)
Free bosman player: select position (drop down box),
type in a name,
select a nationality
Click button "Submit preseason"
No trades until Pre season orders are done for all teams
(this season anyway)
See poll vote
Poll vote on front page to see if there is support to keep trade window open all season long.
This would allow any manager to trade their way out of budgeting issues at any point of the season.
In addition, I'll welcome a response if the pre match trade embargo should be lifted also.
Bit more contraversial as a high SL FW may join a team on day of a big match catching opposition by surprise. Not sure how often that would happen, and would that just add to the drama?
20 CP costs 750k pre-season.
20 CP @ 50k is 1000k and only for those teams that don't buy CP pre-season.
I suppose a manager could decide not to buy pre-season CP so that they had extra cash for early trades and auctions, and then buy the 20 CP later, but I'm not sure it's worth losing out on CP slots or the extra cash needed.
A simplistic answer to a problem that doesn't happen every season.
My concern would be such a club would get 20CPs for 1,000k, but the clubs who work their costs out, mine included, have to spend 3,000k to get 50CPs. Push the suggested price to say 1,500k and I'd be more keen on the idea.
But my initial idea to supplement them to 750k is a simple one which does not impinge on league rules about loans as it would be the league loaning, not any club.
But any teams involved may not want to borrow - their choice. This is not a Poll so it's only members opinions, so likely the whole thing will die down when the Cecil Cup starts.. π€π€
Goodness, is the new season not due to start..
Back in the dark ages, the actual logic behind the 20CP/750k minimum was to avoid easily bought championahips:
the fear was that a player would buy about every transfer market player, just to win the championahip once - the minimum allocation was thought as a way to prevent this.
I don't think this made much sense back then. I'm pretty sure it does not make any sense now given SESL's economy.
While I see overly convoluted and manually processed loan mechanics as pointless work, a simple alternative:
Every team - that does not buy a CP allocation in the pre-season - can buy up to 20 CPs and at 50k each, once per season and whenever it likes to.
Minimal manual effort, missing the 750k turns from disaster to nuisance, problem solved.
I agree that we should remove the rule that say you need to have 750k to buy 20cp's, you should be able to spend what you have as that is your budget. I sold a player to get extra cash in and that upset some mangers as the deal was not up to what they thought it should be.
We could open the transfer markets earlier to allow teams to try and raise money to spend in pre-season.
Not happy we loans to teams to allow them to get the cash they require./
I have never liked the minimum CP spend of 20. It is a rule that has put me off SESL in the past. I feel that if you only have 500k, you should be able to buy 500k of CP. To me that is fair. That is still budgeting.
That is my penny worth on the rule.
Regarding my failure to budget last season, I messed up. I thought I had a sponsorship secured that I didn't and I had a stressful few months towards back end of season where i didn't really consider SESL as a priority.
Another excellent point raised. I was going to send a message to Mark, today, explaining I was finished again. I simply don't take this as seriously as others (Any more) although I enjoy it. When a manager resigns, a magic wand often "sorts" teams out in a few sessions. I felt Rangers deserved this.
If I had 20CP, I might reconsider this as I can enjoy the basics of the game over the next few sessions instead of battling to scrape together CPs at hugely inflated prices.
Onky my thoughts and honesty folks.
.....we at SRA are perennially short of cash. In the early days, myself and most of the lads took a job in the local Bakery. We kneaded the dough........
I remember when I restarted in SESL and I was desperately short of CP Dave actually helped me out by selling some to me cheaply. I still remember that random act of kindness.
No such compassion for those messing up this season it seems :)
Easy to trade a player for some CP before first game of season.
Or trade TP away for CP. ABE don't appear to have a wad of youth fighting over 40TP so that seems an easy solution.
RAN could sacrifice a player when trade window opens to get CP. They could have traded towards end of last season. RAN a bit unlucky and got mighty close to 750k. I'll help RAN out by trading him CP at season start next week.
ABE a bit more reckless. Heaven knows why he pays for home bonus for half the season. Several blow out 120k fines doesn't help either.
ABE have plenty TP to trade it would appear based on current roster.
Dozens of smaller clubs in real life survive by selling a good player to league above in Scotland occassionally.
No need for a rule change in Sesl.
Lack of CP can be easily resolved next week.
By allowing massive loans aren't we in danger in this football simulation of actually adding some reality?
Bury, Darlington, Wombles, Halifax, Hereford, Scarborough, Chester in the English league come to mind. Dare we even mention Airdrieonians, Clydebank, Third Lanark (not sure what happened to the other two?), St Bernard's, Gretna, Meadowbank....I am sure there was one more tiny Glasgow team but I can't quite remember their name......started with an R.......
So, YES if you want loans but also add in a bankrupcy rule to get your club's name engraved on a tombstone. STJ would probably do this out of spite just to avoid SRA in the first league game of the season.......
I am against loaning teams cash so they can buy 20 CP but not against letting them buy chunks of 5 CP that they can afford.
Teams that are low in cash are so because of overspending on CP/TP slots or auctions. Bill gives his reasons why Rangers are low, which I accept, but Ross continued to spend maximum home bonus even though his team was in trouble. I knew we would struggle so decided to save cash for this season.
Firstly I'd rather keep the 2 match Saturdays. It's a unique theme of SESL. I get that sometimes players get injured etc in the first match and this can then have knock on effects with subs etc. And that some managers may log in between matches in case they need to make a tweak. but I accept that. I just prefer double match saturday.
With regard to the 750k CP rule - at first I was dead against any change. Managers should be able to budget to finish with 750k. But I have been swayed by Alon's argument - it is a game and that team is starting off the season at a significant financial loss. Let them buy whatever CP they can afford or maybe the loan idea.
I have never liked the minimum CP spend of 20. It is a rule that has put me off SESL in the past. I feel that if you only have 500k, you should be able to buy 500k of CP. To me that is fair. That is still budgeting.
That is my penny worth on the rule.
Regarding my failure to budget last season, I messed up. I thought I had a sponsorship secured that I didn't and I had a stressful few months towards back end of season where i didn't really consider SESL as a priority.
Another excellent point raised. I was going to send a message to Mark, today, explaining I was finished again. I simply don't take this as seriously as others (Any more) although I enjoy it. When a manager resigns, a magic wand often "sorts" teams out in a few sessions. I felt Rangers deserved this.
If I had 20CP, I might reconsider this as I can enjoy the basics of the game over the next few sessions instead of battling to scrape together CPs at hugely inflated prices.
Onky my thoughts and honesty folks.
Rules should be kept under constant review and my view is that, while poor financial management should not be rewarded, neither should managers be penalised too heavily for making a mistake.
So I would agree with David's suggestion of a one-off loan to help these guys - but perhaps thinking of the long-term, we should make the first 20 CPs free for all managers, and perhaps cut the free TPs back from 40 to 20 to keep finaancial balance.
And while we're talking about reviewing rules, isn't about time we did something about the Robin Hood rule? I broke the 4000k threshhold last season when favourable results in the last matches saw me finish unexpectedly in 6th place for a 400k sponsorship payout. If I'd felt I was in the running for that, I would have burnt some cash earlier, of course.
And can we talk about moving away from two matches on Saturdays? Last season, I had a player pick up a small injury in the first match, so that he then started the second match with a negative EL. I wasn't around in the hour availabe to change my lineup so he played the second match and picked up a serious injury which kept him out for half a season. Seems so unnecessary to schedule things in this way.
So Marks reading of the rules is obviously accurate.
However if 2 clubs are left without being allowed to buy resources they will be a disaster for at least 2 seasons and none competitive as well.The managers may even lose interest as they will be managing clubs that start losing every week and they will need to hang around for at least 2 seasons in a no fun environment to get back to playing a game they are competitive in.
We could even end up losing a manager who would otherwise be a long term fixture.
So sure they screwed up. They should have read the rules better and budgeted more wisely.
But in the end of the day we are still plaaying a game and this seems like a really good time to be compationate and bend the rules for them. They are still only going to get to 20cp so its not like we are giving them a free 1st division title. We just need to give them a fighting chance so that the game can be fun for them too.
I know that too -loans against the rules etc.
It is up to managers to watch their balances, I know. Then I thought as time goes by perhaps some rules can do with some re thinking.
But like yourself, I watched my income right through the season, indeed I managed AGAIN to help out less well off teams by going over the limit -damn that Robin Hood.
There won't be support for this - that's okay - not sure I'd want to be looking for an advance myself. Isn't the close season long.... :-))
Seems pretty clear to me from the rules below that a loan is in fact against rules. Budget accordingly or suffer the consequences for me I'm afraid.
Try plan a budget from gate receipts and top up with participation bonuses from blog and journals.
All teams will need at least 750k in bank at end of each season to bulk buy CP for following season. At end of season 45 two teams ended with a bank balance lower than 750k, but soon traded CP in when season got underway. This is most unusual but a reminder on the need for healthy budgeting as part of your good management.
The trade window deliberately does not open until after all pre-season info has been submitted so there is no opportunity to trade your way out of poor budgeting.
To clarify a common question: un-used CP or TP will carry over to new season as normal.
No loans are permitted, as this is not in the spirit of the game.
I am really glad I am creating participating cash for so many people, including myself hopefully. I can't help it if my keyboard has a life of it's own.
So here is something for some of you to ponder - and this after I have spoken to Der Fuhrer err Mark.
Rules say a team should have 750k to be able to buy 20CPs, doesn't say HAS to, just should.
I haven't spoken to the 2 clubs who haven't the minimum cash in the bank, but had an idea.
Could the League advance the balance to these clubs (if they wished it) to get to 750k, and deduct monies from the first few matches played. They may decide to just start the season with no CPs - fair enough!
1 Mark says it is possible - it would come from the set up "bank" - and not from any clubs. That would be the wrong practice.
2 A charge would be laid (suggesting 10%) on the loan, as it isn't something that happens very often and hopefully deter future clubs needing an advance.
3 As any affected club's balance would be reduced to nil until the money was repaid, they could CP players, but would have no cash for extra CP/TP training or going into auctions or buy players for cash.
I am guessing some clubs would say getting to such a low balance at the end of the season is bad accounting, but it IS a game and my ideas above are not doing any affected clubs a favour. Just a suggestion..
Anyway that's it - my participating should be good this week... :-)
Similar to a wand used by Harry Potter?
Similar to a magic sponge, it's D. Blairs latest initiative for a magic qand?
More questions than answers really.
Need a poll vote? Or a Q & A to clarify ? π
Had to check the meaning........
"The word "qand" has several meanings depending on the context. It can refer to a village in Iran, rock sugar in Arabic and Persian, or be an abbreviation for "question" or "Q&A" in English. Additionally, "Q" can be used as an abbreviation for "cue" in the context of theatre or as a general hint or prompt."
Have the Caley moves to Iran in post-season?
On the stats page it shows the correct amount for INV - just enough for a fish supper and 2 pints - 51k. Not sure why it differs from the team's actual account, but bet Mark's on to it..
Does seem a blip - but guessing Mark will be on it. Not sure INV will have been keen you spotted his early season "bonus". Wonder if there are any more where the CP purchase has not been taken off - please let it be mine... Darn, nope!!
EDI Bio updates for Season 59 are now Done.
INV's balance happens to be just 2000 too high, 2051 instead of 51 - post CP buy.
Any obvious reasons for this mistake?
You could have stayed silent and probably created hundreds of chances in every game....
If you knew how long it takes to manually add the cash and alter each team/player I'd be pleased if yours was the only mistake - all done this afternoon. And we both might earn from this Blogging.....
My OTF seems to be 107. Perhaps my best chance of surviving in Divsion 1....
Thanks David - good initiative that, like it π
That's it lads. All 42 of you who took part have been paid and your player and PU updated. Any queries let me know but right now I am looking to do my pre season...
PS In answer to a previous Blog - YES there will be a Bios update - and the NEW season must be mentioned in all the updates to get a payment..
The following teams receive Player of the Season paym through 3rd May - re POTS:
ABE(50) AI(50) ALB(50) ALO(50) ANN(50) ARB(50) AYR(50) BRE(50) CLY(50) COW(50) DEV(50) DUM(50) DEE(50) DUU(50) DFA(50) EF(50) EST(50) EDI(50) ELG(50) FAL(50) FOR(50) FRA(50) HAM(50) HEA(50) HIB(50) INV(50) KIL(50) LIV(50) MON(50) MOT(50) NAI(50) PT(50) PET(50) QP(50) RR(50) RAN(50) ROS(50) STJ(50) SM(50) STE(50) STI(50) SRA(50)
Awards that get done once pre season starts. They have all been done!!
Manager of the Season
DIV 1 ARB & MOT + 2 OTF
DIV 2 ANN + 2 OTF
DIV 3 DEV + 2 OTF
DIV 1 STJ +2 OTF
DIV 2 AI +2 OTF
DIV 3 EST & BER +2 OTF
Prediction League
1 EF 3 OTF
2 DEE 2 OTF
3 STI 1 OTF
4 EST 2 TPs
5 MOT 1 CP
POTS awards will be done later as they will take a while - likely to do them a division at a time. Cash will come through in 1 go under participation - player awards separate.
Conversation in the local SRA Pub this lunchtime......
".....what do you mean we don't have STJ in the opening game? We always play them. It is a spiritual right of passage that we start off with 3 points against the Saints? What? They got RELEGATED?? They will do anything to avoid the opening day massacre.......cowards."
Are we doing 'About' & 'Bio' updates for our teams this season ?
I will be running the PL again this season, and the first round will be the Division 1 matches on 31st May (Match 6).
I will publish the full schedule later.
It's been a while since my last posting - but the rather silly RH rule has enforced radio silence recently.
More to come soon, but for now the most important thing only.
I will not continue calculating and presenting the Div1 xP and luck tables next season.
It has been fun - and it has cleared some issues I've had with the MSWL RNG - but it just doesn't work with my weekly work schedule.
I probably could do it again "most" weeks - but those tables don't make much sense if you can't provide them all season consistently.
Nonetheless, this does not necessarily mean that we won't see those rankings again next season.
Anybody who shows some interest in providing those tables for his division can get my spreadsheets, a short how to and even furter help if needed. Just send me a mail.
Presenting those numbers does provide a steady and solid income - and at least I would be rather interested in who's just lucky or simply good in all divisions.
P.S.: I will continue with the junk (clever management) tables for Div1. I've grown quite fond of them - and I even think that the black pedagogy involved had some positive effects.
Of course, everyone's free to present their junk tables for other divisions if interested.
The brilliantly named 'Silent Assassin' was fairly decent in regard to the EDI squad this time around, mainly due to the fact that we still have a relatively young roster.
EDI will be in pretty good shape to begin the new Division 2 league campaign and if it all goes pear shaped then it will be down to the manager more than the impact of the 'Silent Assassin'.
He's been round, stripping SL out every player, confidence from every fan and hope from every manager. It's a cheery time of year.
We've now got the (joint) highest Age in Division 1 and the 13th highest T11. Thank you, thank you very much. Work to be done. Back to back Over-achievers awards required if we are going to win this title! haha.
Looking forward to the challenge of building a new team whilst trying not to just drop straight backdown to Div 3.
We will do our best at at least have some cash to spend.
The old firm rivalry re-commences on TV Sunday lunchtime, but could the Sesl Glasgow team managers start a rivalry in Sesl?
Both managers Bill & Bill very quiet with participation.
The following teams receive Robin Hood 4000k maximum through excess goes to bottom 4 teams in Div 3.:
BER(106) COV(106) EF(-250) EST(106) HIB(-177) QP(106)
Almost guaranteed to be starting before the 9th, but I will keep a good eye out for a bargain when the transfer window opens on 15th May.
Hope that the new season will not start to soon away on holiday from the 9th so not going to have too much time to upset anyone with my transfer dealings.
Now updated in the journals. I still can't see where it said outfield player only in the posts about this i read unless there is a later one i didn't see. Anyway updated now.
Something else I've discovered - thanks for that.
Les, no need to come back to me - and then there were only 9 teams in no rush for free SLs and 50k. π₯π
Button between "Latest" and "Add a Journal" it offers
"archive".
HAM choose FW Oli Shaw 2/30
The following teams receive Awards through 29th April - Default sponsorship minimum achieved.:
ABE(100) SM(100)
Some Journals have been deleted from before 14/4/25, and I can see Les @ HAM put his lad in, I thought Id have the full length of journals to re-check, seems not.
LES, can you slip me the name of your lad again (Blog will do) - guessing it might have been Hamilton. Either way, you won't lose the SLs or payment - I can see you did Journal on the 12th April. Thanks!!
Dave, think Thursday will be the end of season, after final sponsorships have been paid out.
Stephen, I have PET in, don't worry.
Cameron, EST were informed earlier and his keeper has been swopped.
i will check out everybody's lad before awarding, and just in case a keeper slips me in the Journaks, he won't slip past in the awarding. Worst scenario is I will change any keeper for an outfielder. My rules....ππ
AYR - a change please or read previous paragraph...
Deadline tomorrow - I have 15 (1st division sides), 11 (2nd) and 12 (3rd) = 38 teams in so far.
Last minute shoppers?
ANN, DUM, HAM, RR, CB, CEL, QOS, GM, COV, BER ????
Some teams are picking GK's for this outfield team player of season initiative.
AYR & EST I've noticed. Maybe others too when just a name is noted without a player position.
Still a day to tweak your POTS lads before deadline.
Don't forget Peterhead, we've put our journal in as well!
When do we think?
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Apr 27th:
ABE(35) AI(15) ALO(30) ARB(15) BRE(15) CLY(25) DFA(15) EF(5) EST(15) FAL(30) FRA(15) HIB(50) LIV(40) MON(15) MOT(50) NAI(40) PT(10) RAN(20) ROS(15) STJ(40) SM(35) STI(40)
There were some revisions made and the final details were in the blog. Just a few minor differences from what you posted:
Gents,
Mark happy to trial (and review next season) a Player of the Season per team and has contributed to most of the points below:
Each manager selects one player – outfield player, no GK - from his team as his Player of the Season just ending.
Player must be aged 2+.
The player will be given a SL+1/+2/+3 bonus at the start of next season (avoids PSA), which will count as part of his PU - but means you save on the CP(s). Amount depends upon the division the team STARTS next season – Div 1/2/3 = SL 1/2/3.
Teams will be given up to 50k at the start of the season, IF they spend at least 50 words explain the reasons for their choice.
Skill level additions will be done manually after the new season opens.
No obligation to take part, but if so, please use JOURNALS & head up your Journal with POTS – closes on 30th APRIL.
It is a trial, off season is on us soon, so why not take part, and do it NOW whilst it is still fresh..??
Who knows, if this takes off then next season we could trial “Youth POTS”
Journal posted by HIB biss.
Monday April 7th, 2025 - 01:46:18 PM GMT
Team Player of the Season
Gents,
I ran some of this past Mark earlier and he suggested putting it out for your perusal..
I suggested each team select their own Player of the Season – to be done before Mark deletes the current season’s figures.
The idea is a manager would select one player, currently aged 2 or 3, who has played in at least 50% of games possible for his team, who has contributed most to his team’s performances throughout the season. (Even in a bad season for some teams someone will have shone out like a beacon.)
There would be criteria for the selection and rewards for making it.
It is a bit of fun – sometimes I feel we get too serious about some issues. And those who don’t fancy the idea just don’t need to take part.
(If enough people want to try it, the plan would be to use Journals or Notebook and NOT Blogs, but this is only an initial feeler so no answers yet, please.)
Appreciate the info, thank you.
where do I post?
Pick a player to be Player of the Season (POTS) from your team. Must be age 2 or higher and not a GK. He will get 2 SL added and 2 PU (as RAN are in Div 2 next season) at the start of next season.
Write 50+ words about why he deserves it and you also earn 50k.
I am thoroughly confused. Took a few weeks respite as season end and I return to read David's post. This must be a new thing? What do I need to do to get this? Cheers folks.
Quote " IF your team is NOT below then sit back, you will be getting the above."
EF is NOT listed, so you ARE down to receive the freebies. Kieran Miller is the lad down to gain ...
See you up there in the new season, Paul. Good luck.
David, East Fife seem to be missing from your list - POTS chosen 18th April
COW mentioned twice - 2SLs if they respond - missed out Ritchie - NAI added their name this evening - 20 to go.
Gents, this is the last mention I will make for some of you to claim 50k plus either 1,2,3 SLs for an outfielder of your choice. The 50k is for you to justify the players name. My decision on the 50k. 27 teams in already - 21 missing out!!
Now IF your team is NOT below then sit back, you will be getting the above.
But QP, COV, MON, BER, and INV all stand to get 3SLs on their lad if they apply
ST, AYR, KIL, GM, QOS, COW, HAM, RR, CB, CEL, and RAN all stand to get 2SLs on their lad
ARB, LIV, DUM, COW, ANN all would get 1SL onto their lad.
WHY would you not want a freebie - these are SLs you don't pay for = CPs you can use on other players. EVERY 3rd division side (starting next season) should be up for it - a no brainer.
That's it - 30th April is the deadline. Good luck.
Some clubs - below - will discover they have been already allocated their 100k default sponsorship payment - wasn't meant to be all done till Thursday but DUM, MOT, ALB, DEV, EST, STI had already qualified for the payment.
Some others WILL get to the minimum participation and they will receive their 100k after the next participation payout.
The following teams receive Awards through 24th April for season's awards.:
ALB(400) ALO(200) ANN(400) AYR(200) CB(100) DEV(600) DUM(100) DEE(200) EST(100) EDI(200) FAL(300) FOR(200) GM(100) HEA(300) KIL(200) MOT(600) NAI(500) ROS(200) SM(400) STE(400) STI(200)
Gents,
Below is the list of teams and their earnings for the various categories. I plan to award the cash shortly after this is posted.
There is still the 100k default sponsorship payments to be paid - this will be done after Thursday - when the last participation awards will be made, and one or 3 clubs are close to getting to the qualifying amount of 100k.
OTF payments plus the POTS payments will be done after the new season opens.
Golden Boot
Golden Gloves
Rating = 75 x (1 - GA/SF) + SF/4 where GA is goals allowed and SF is shots faced
Other Awards (per division)
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Begs the question - which is best?
Winning both cups in a season, or a divisional title?
Both fantastic ofcourse.
DUU's 32 seasons in the first division is incredible achievement.
Mark Boland has also win 4 division 1 title's in a row....
T W I C E
I doubt any team will even dominate Sesl like that again, as always seems a new team name emerging.
DEE have set up a solid squad and won both cups at the expensive of a league table challenge.
RAN under Stewart did same and won at least 1 cup each season between 50-55, but just 1 league title in 13 seasons as RAN boss. A tricky balance.
First of all, you're very welcome, Ross/RH
Roy has found the most interesting tidbits with division 2 stays - staying 8 consecutive seasons in division 2 takes some doing!
I was a bit curious on longest stays in division 1/3 as well, and think I have this right: Note that all of these depend on the records being correct, and I know some of you have expressed doubt about everything being accurate for the oldest seasons. So take all of this with a grain of salt.
DUU's 32 seasons in the first division from season 8 to season 39 is the longest consecutive stretch.
Several sides have stretches in the 20s. DUM reached 23. RAN were there for the first 23 seasons. ABE the first 21. AI would have had 24 if not for a small blip down for one season in season 35. STJ would have reached 21 this season had they not gone down for season 51. I believe HEA have the longest current streak at 16 this coming season. Just have to do it all again to match DUU!
For stays at the bottom division, EST leads the way spending their first 17 seasons in division 3. HUN (now COV) spent their first 12 seasons there. CLY and FRA both had 14 season streaks in division 3. ALO had 11 straight.
ALO might have the record for least time in the first division, at 3 seasons, with two of those coming just recently with Steve's ALO terrorizing MOT with expert marking seasons 56-57.
Thanks for all your admin work with Participation Bonus awards this season Andrew.
I was going to type AFG, but then seems more respectful to use your proper name, rather than abbreviation.
Thanks again AFG.....
ABE need 10k
COV need 45k
PET need 50k
SM need 35k
Generally, blog posts should net you 5-15k each (most will be 10k, but also there have been some cases of 0k when the system is being gamed)
Generally, journals net you 15-25k each
Easiest way to 50k is one good journal and a few blog posts that contribute to the conversation. Or two journals and one blog post. Somewhere around there.
Which team has had the longest consecutive run in Division 2?
At first I thought the first team I checked the history for was the answer as Arbroath had 6 seasons. Then I thought I was onto a winner with Livingston with Adrian Nicholas in charge, but then I found Queen of the South who's first 8 seasons in SESL were in division 2. This was with Kyrre Sveen.
They were joined in season 3 by St Mirren who then also stayed there for 8 seasons under a few different managers, the last 5 under Les Lithgow.
Queens Park matched Livingston's 7 seasons.
Rangers and Falkirk also had 6 seasons and 5 or 6 teams had 5 consecutive seasons in division 2.
Top17 rating stat at start of season rank position v league table finish
So STE were ranked 15th out of 16 teams in Div 1, yet finished season in 5th place in Div 1.
So STE over-achieved by 10 places.
Meanwhile the jokers at STJ started as 5th strongest yet finished 15th in Div 1 league standings.
How STJ havent sacked their manager is frankly a mystery.
Season 58 | |||||
Top17 start rank position v league table finish | |||||
- Division 1 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | Top 17 start | league finish | over / under achiever | ||
15 | Stenhousemuir | 18.1 | 5 | 10 | OVER achiever |
9 | Motherwell | 20.3 | 2 | 7 | |
8 | Fraserburgh | 20.4 | 3 | 5 | |
13 | Dumbarton | 18.9 | 9 | 4 | |
10 | Dundee FC | 20.2 | 7 | 3 | |
12 | Cowdenbeath | 20.1 | 11 | 1 | |
14 | Raith Rovers | 18.6 | 13 | 1 | |
1 | Arbroath | 22.2 | 1 | 0 | |
16 | Celtic | 17.9 | 16 | 0 | |
3 | Hearts | 21.2 | 4 | -1 | |
11 | Hamilton Accies | 20.1 | 12 | -1 | |
6 | Clyde FC | 20.9 | 8 | -2 | |
2 | Livingston | 21.2 | 6 | -4 | |
4 | Stranraer | 21.2 | 10 | -6 | |
7 | Clydebank | 20.8 | 14 | -7 | |
5 | Saint Johnstone | 20.9 | 15 | -10 | under achiever |
- Division 2 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | |||||
7 | Annan Athletic | 19.1 | 1 | 6 | OVER achiever |
8 | Albion Rovers | 18.8 | 3 | 5 | |
16 | Montrose | 17.7 | 11 | 5 | |
11 | Rangers | 18.4 | 8 | 3 | |
4 | Elgin City | 20.1 | 2 | 2 | |
9 | Peterhead | 18.6 | 7 | 2 | |
14 | Aberdeen | 18.2 | 12 | 2 | |
15 | Inverness | 17.7 | 13 | 2 | |
10 | Queen of the South | 18.5 | 9 | 1 | |
5 | Nairn County | 19.8 | 5 | 0 | |
6 | East Fife | 19.3 | 6 | 0 | |
3 | Hibernian | 20.4 | 4 | -1 | |
13 | Airdrieonians FC | 18.2 | 14 | -1 | |
12 | Alloa Athletic | 18.4 | 16 | -4 | |
1 | Greenock Morton | 20.5 | 10 | -9 | |
2 | Brechin City | 20.5 | 15 | -13 | under achiever |
- Division 3 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | Top 17 start | league finish | over / under achiever | ||
14 | Saint Mirren | 17.7 | 3 | 11 | OVER achiever |
13 | Dundee United | 17.8 | 6 | 7 | |
6 | Deveronvale | 18.6 | 1 | 5 | |
8 | Ayr United | 18.5 | 4 | 4 | |
12 | Forfar Athletic | 17.8 | 9 | 3 | |
7 | Kilmarnock | 18.6 | 5 | 2 | |
9 | Partick Thistle | 18.4 | 7 | 2 | |
15 | Queens Park | 17.3 | 13 | 2 | |
16 | East Stirlingshire | 17.1 | 14 | 2 | |
2 | Edinburgh City | 19.4 | 2 | 0 | |
10 | Stirling | 18.2 | 11 | -1 | |
5 | Falkirk | 18.9 | 8 | -3 | |
11 | Berwick | 18.1 | 16 | -5 | |
4 | Ross County | 18.9 | 10 | -6 | |
1 | Dunfermline Athletic | 20.1 | 12 | -11 | |
3 | Cove Rangers | 19.2 | 15 | -12 | under achiever |
Midtable safety in Div 2 is a niche market.
Anyone any ideas what team/manager holds the record for longest stay in the division how long it was for?
Interesting to note that all 4 promotion relegation tussles were won by the team from the lower league.. This means the divisions are all going to look very different next season. Division 2 will actually only have 4 teams that played in it this season, with 6 teams going up and 6 going down.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Apr 20th:
ABE(40) ALB(10) ALO(20) ARB(30) DEV(10) DUM(15) DEE(50) EF(30) EST(20) EDI(35) ELG(15) FAL(10) FRA(50) HEA(10) HIB(30) LIV(20) MOT(45) NAI(20) PT(30) PET(30) ROS(15) STJ(25) STE(45) STI(50)
Note that the below participation date should say April 13th
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Apr 16th:
ABE(50) ALB(15) ALO(50) ARB(10) DEV(25) DUM(25) DEE(50) DUU(15) EF(50) EDI(45) FAL(25) FOR(15) FRA(25) HAM(15) HEA(25) HIB(50) LIV(40) MOT(50) PT(45) ROS(20) STJ(30) STI(50) SRA(40)
Impressive indeed from Eduard, and Cameron in their 3rd year in charge.
Some even done it in 2 years (cough) CLY season 57!
What triple post?? ππππ
Sorry about the triple post, I'm on holiday and the WiFi isn't great
Am I right in thinking Eduard won both cups this year with Dundee?
If so this was his 3rd year in charge,. which is also the story with Cameron at Arbroath - 3rd year and wins the Div 1 title!
Gents,
please remember the player you choose fir your player if the Season can NOT be a keeper. Thanks Rob for coming back with another lad, but can EST also change their player.
Remaining teams struggling to find a player to give me 50 words on please note the bonus only lasts till 30th April -it's gone after that - think we are on around 23/24 teams for now. π°π°π°π°
Div1 Manager of Season poll vote on front page now
all 48 managers can vote til April 28th
Well done Dan as ANN won the Div 2 top manager vote this week.
Could have a poll vote on this next month, but the 8 teams involved in playoffs next season would like the cash, the other 40 manager might feel differently.
If there is a landslide (20+ managers) in favour of change then I am open to change any rules if feasible.
It's obviously coded that play-off gate money isn't awarded, even though it shows on the post-match report but DPs are. The only way of changing this easily is a manual reset by Commish.
Suspensions can be set by Commish as it shows in Parameters that suspensions carry over in SESL. They do not is SFLSL nor OASL. Also Morale is reset to 0.5 for all teams in those leagues but in SESL it's raised to a minimum of 0.5
You also don't get a morale increase for winning or losing. East Fife's was 0.64 before their game and it still is.
I personally think gate reciepts should be accured for playoffs. DPs do therefore it should be balanced (in my opinion)
Suppose 4th team in Div 2 didn't get any prize money for 4th, so 5th place team ought not bank another 75k gate receipts and potentially a free CP or TP slot worth another 25k each from an extra match.
No team regardless of position gets prize money. 4th team gets automatic promotion to the big league, 5th / 6th team get another chance at glory. The suggestion cant actually be that a team would engineer bottling a top 4 finish in order to get another gate receipt by entering the play offs?
The rules have been set in stone for ages about playoff games not awarding gate monies
Rules change fairly frequently in SESL - player of the season a new addition recently? A few have attempted to justify the reasoning for no gate receipts but i remain unconvinced. FYI, i am happy to miss out this season for receipts to return to play offs in the future.
I believe John is correct here. Had the same happen in OASL with playoffs where there was an entry for MVPs being granted, but the rewards did not get added to accounts. I find them annoying oddities to deal with as commish there, but at least there aren't many matches to deal with the results of.
Congrats to the winners - this was the hardest season I can remember for prediction league, and I am quite impressed that some of you were able to achieve such consistently high scores! EF and DEE made for quite an exciting race to the finish and both deserve their cushy OTF payouts. Well done, gents.
Also, I can't remember a season where there were no ties in the top 5. Usually at least 6 or 7 managers get paid out with the ties...I think it was 12 managers last season!
MVP resources weren't added I don't think.
ABE don't have 1 TP in account.
DUU I don't know what CP total was before match.
MVP 25k was added though which is fair enough I suppose.
The rules have been set in stone for ages about playoff games not awarding gate monies - pretend they are been held behind closed doors.
But I do see MVPs were awarded which resulted in 3 teams receiving 25k or even 1 CP - wonder if a playoff game should count towards a MVP? Easy to take away but just wondered....
Suppose 4th team in Div 2 didn't get any prize money for 4th, so 5th place team ought not bank another 75k gate receipts and potentially a free CP or TP slot worth another 25k each from an extra match.
Injuries don't carry over as EL is reset at the start of the new season.
But suspensions do carry over - DUU had two players booked that now have a 1 match suspension and they do carry over.
can't really award relegation threatened teams with a free game of gate receipts
thats a wild way to look at it. NAI / EF and the div 3 5th and 6th place were far from relegation threatened? If there were any injuries / suspensions incurred as a result of the play offs would they still count?
Think it's classed as additional game outwith league play, so can't really award relegation threatened teams with a free game of gate receipts rest of teams don't get.
Resources can't be used either in playoff games, I remember folk saying that last season.
I think both scenarios are reasonably fair.
Do we actually get nothing for that?
No gate receipts? Aware its 77k but lost as to why we are entitled to it?
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 52:
East Fife - MVP #5: 25k (wwW)
Dundee United - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWd)
Aberdeen - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Click "journals" button beside Notebook near top right of web page.
See a journal posted:-
Monday April 7th, 2025 - 01:46:18 PM GMT
Team Player of the Season
Where do we send the POTS info and when do we have til to do so?
Team | xP |
MOT | 73,6 |
FRA | 55,7 |
ARB | 51,5 |
CLY | 47,9 |
DUM | 44,6 |
STE | 44,4 |
DEE | 44,3 |
SRA | 41,8 |
LIV | 40,4 |
COW | 37,9 |
HEA | 37,8 |
HAM | 35,6 |
RR | 35,2 |
CB | 26,4 |
CEL | 21,1 |
STJ | 20,3 |
The boring table 1st. No major movements, just find your team and ranking.
Interestingly, the relegated and playoff teams were the "correct" ones - with sole exception HEA (cf. below).
Team | Luck |
HEA | +14,2 |
ARB | +12,5 |
LIV | +6,6 |
STE | +5,6 |
DEE | +2,7 |
HAM | +2,4 |
STJ | +1,7 |
COW | +1,1 |
FRA | -0,7 |
RR | -1,2 |
CB | -1,4 |
DUM | -1,6 |
SRA | -1,8 |
CLY | -2,9 |
CEL | -3,1 |
MOT | -10,6 |
HEA defend their lead - with quite impressive +14.2.
ARB tried their best: playing both DEE and CLY as dog gave them enough room to claim this trophy. Sadly, they did not win both matches, so I expect them to be extremely depressed after last week's results.
(Not so) Fun fact:
The top 3 lucky rollers are also the top 3 of the junk table!
Apparently some of their opponents thought that they were still not lucky enough, and helped them even further.
From front page, this is my understanding -
all teams who didn't win a sponsor lot in auction, received the default sponsor.
more than half those teams noted below still haven't hit the 100k target, which seems silly as so easy to have achieved for 200k for little effort.
Earn 100k in participation bonus
Div 1: CEL CLY CB DUM HAM MOT
Div 2: ABE AI ALB GM INV MON PET RAN
Div 3: BER COV DEV DFA EST KIL SM STI
How does the Default Sponsorship lot work?
Div2 Manager of Season poll vote on front page now
all 48 managers can vote til April 23rd
Well done Leon as DEV won the Div 3 top manager vote this week.
Just read the fineprint
How about the party bonus bonus?
The following teams receive SESL Officer Duties through :
EF(400) HIB(200) MOT(300) PT(100)
Prediction Chief : 400k EF
Press Officer : 300k MOT
Auction Value Analyst: 300k PT part of season
Auction Action Reviews: 200k PT part of season, 100k
Sesl cup betting admin: 200k HIB
Ah. I see it now
On my mobile the div 3 teams appear on the left under the numbered bids. I get that at work sometimes when someone saves their CV and it has great big blank gaps in it due to formatting.
The following teams receive Sponsorship success through :
ALO(200) ARB(300) AYR(300) BRE(300) COW(400) DEE(200) DUU(400) EF(400) EDI(200) ELG(400) FOR(300) HEA(300) HIB(400) LIV(200) NAI(400) QOS(300) QP(200) ROS(400) STE(400) SRA(300)
Team league goals >=60 COW-NAI- 400k
player >=4 Man of Match STE-ELG-DUU 400k
Top 6 league finish -EF - 400k
3 clean sheets in a row -HIB-ROS 400k
Unbeaten streak 3 games ARB-QOS-AYR 300k
Last 16 in either Cup HEA- -FOR 300k
Have >=3 age0 SL10+ SRA-BRE- 300k
Team DP <= 200 DEE-ALO-QP 200k
10 OTF end of season --
Team league goals >=25 LIV- -EDI 200k
Aston Villa 2-2 Newcastle
Brentford 1-1 Brighton
Crystal Palace 1-0 Bournemouth
Everton 0-2 Man City
Fulham 1-3 Chelsea
Ipswich Town 1-3 Arsenal
Leicester City 0-3 Liverpool
Man United 1-2 Wolves
Tottenham 1-1 Nottingham Forest
West Ham 3-1 Southampton
Arsenal 3-0 Crystal Palace
Man City 2-0 Aston Villa
17 teams have used their 50 words plus in giving me their POTS (see title). The closing date for entering and earning the player either 1,2,3 SLs next season and your club 50k is 30th April...
Majority of the teams so far are from the 1st division - why wouldn't EVERY 2nd and 3rd Division side NOT want at least 2SLs, maybe 3SLs for their POTS? Over half of the entruies are from the 16 teams in the top division, so do it now before you miss out.
Cash and SLs will be added at the beginning of the new season....
I don't find anything unusual about the below......(written by Dave below):
"Div 3 winners EF in S56.
Unusual manager of season votes for sure.
CHOICE | TOTAL VOTES |
PET: Stephen (11th Top17 at season start) | 15 |
STI: Roy (16th Top17 at season start) | 9 |
EF: Paul (2nd Top17 at season start) | 2 |
FOR: Willy (5th Top17 at season start) | 1 |
"
5 teams in Div 3 won sponsorship per blog couple below this.
Maybe image has stretched on your phone Roy. Try turning phone on side maybe?
DUU ROS AYR QP & EDI are all listed below as successfully achieving sponsorship.
Might be a few more missing if we use the sponsorship on the front page
EDI scored 25+ goals and Ayr went unbeaten for 3 league games
Only one Div 3 team won their sponsorship?
Hoping to pick up 20k party bonus before end of season for our default sponsorship
If Ross County needed 3 clean sheets for theirs they did that recently
1 Team league goals for >=60 400k COW -- NAI --
2 1 player >=4 Man of Match 400k STE -- ELG -- DUU
3 Top 6 league finish 400k -- EF --
4 3 clean sheets in a row 400k -- HIB -- ROS
5 Unbeaten streak of 3 games 300k ARB -- QOS -- AYR
6 Last 16 in either Cup 300k HEA --
7 Have >=3 age0 SL10+ 300k SRA -- BRE --
8 Team DP <= 200 200k DEE -- ALO -- QP
9 Have 10 OTF at end of season 200k --
10 Team league goals for >=25 200k LIV -- EDI
(The default participation pay out sponsors will be at end of month once all blog & journals credited)
Gameweek 33 is a 12 gameweek session with 2 midweek games. This is as the FA cup semifinals clash with gameweek 34.
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Newcastle
Brentford 2 - 1 Brighton
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Everton 1 - 2 Man. City
Fulham 1 - 2 Chelsea
Ipswich Town 0 - 2 Arsenal
Leicester City 0 - 2 Liverpool
Man. United 2 - 1 Wolves
Tottenham 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
West Ham 2 - 0 Southampton
Arsenal 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Man. City 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Well done Andrew McCumisky on the win
Andrew McCumiskey 9.5
Alon Atie 9.0
Paul Cockyne 8.0
Andy Shaw 7.5
David Blair 6.5
Ross Hayworth 5.5
Completely disagree with the blowout being removed for ABE.
The appeal against A blowout should be for when an injury happens and leads to a <50%. You played less than 50%, you got unlucky, but you benefitted later.
Strongly disagree (History supports my stance) to the appeal
I never realised PT blip. Appreciated π
Could be worse - RR missed their 10 OTF sponsor by (checks notes π«£) just 9 OTF short.
EF claim their sponsorship of a top 6 finish ON GOAL DIFFERENCE
PT lose their sponsorship of a top 6 finish ON GOAL DIFFERENCE
The final results are in, even if the trophy is already claimed by ARB ...
Team | Junk | JDs |
ARB | 12 | 7 |
HEA | 11 | 7 |
LIV | 10 | 6 |
DEE | 8 | 1 |
STJ | 7 | 6 |
COW | 7 | 4 |
CLY | 6 | 3 |
SRA | 6 | 2 |
FRA | 6 | 0 |
STE | 6 | 0 |
MOT | 5 | 1 |
RR | 4 | 0 |
HAM | 3 | 2 |
CB | 3 | 1 |
DUM | 2 | 2 |
CEL | 2 | 2 |
HEA and LIV - respectively their opponents - made some serious attempts in the end.
But ARB showed some top performance all through the season - well, their opponents did.
I will probably write some remarks later on, but for now: let the confetti fly!
ABE chose to play strong lineups in matches they tried to win - and weak (and risky) lineups in the 2 blowouts.
It worked: ABE did make the playoffs, other teams did not.
But the potential costs are pretty much clear.
Now, if Ross was a newbie manager - who might not know the many and simple ways to avoid blowout fines - the appeal would be a no-brainer.
Still, it's Ross' 58th(!) season, it doesn't get much more experienced.
You just can't get into a casino and get your losing bets refunded.
BLOWOUT VALUES |
||
BLOWOUT % | 50 | Blowouts are caused when a team is beaten by a threshold of goals when they use only a low percentage of available skill levels on the roster. Blowout % is the value which determines what percentage of total skill level should be used by a coach deemed acceptable and within the spirit of the game. |
BLOWOUT GOAL DIFFERENCE | 6 | Blowout Goal Difference is the number of goals a team must be beaten by to have committed a blowout. |
So whats the issue ?
I agree with Alon an attempt was made to compete in both matches ABE were recently blown out in.
I'd refund 120k x 2
Still a desperately poor budgeting season by ABE though.
I think the fact that ABE paid 40K for a home bonus in GW 47 should prove they did everything they could with their weakened team.
There are legitimate times when managers need to rest their stars,and the game would be really boring if there was no strategy allowed and we all just played 2 third strength teams every game.
However spending 40K on home bonus shows ABEs bone fides and I would personally give them a pass on both fines..
At least Aberdeen have probably got 50k this in week in Partciption money for this week, then get 100k for participation over the season. That's at least 1 of them fines paid for!
Div 3 winners EF in S56.
Unusual manager of season votes for sure.
CHOICE | TOTAL VOTES |
PET: Stephen (11th Top17 at season start) | 15 |
STI: Roy (16th Top17 at season start) | 9 |
EF: Paul (2nd Top17 at season start) | 2 |
FOR: Willy (5th Top17 at season start) | 1 |
I think things have changed a bit since Mark started quoting the start-of -season ratings along with team to vote for. As I recall, when East Fife won Div 3 a couple of seasons ago, we only picked up one or two votes in total.
I agree with Colin, it does seem to generally go to the league winners. But i think part of the interest in voting is that different people do use slightly different criteria nad value performances of opposition managers in different ways, which is good. I generally start with the league winners (aas the league doesnt lie!) - it takes a lot to win any division in SESL and it deserves the credit, but then overlay any big over-achievers as this could be a better performance froma amnagerial perspective.
Personally, i do place lass value on the cups as far as amanger of the season award goes. But only for the reason that ive alwasy looked at it as a 'league' award because we vot by division. We dont vote for one across SESL, based on overall performance, so i generally look at it as a league performance.
Given that you can considerably change your league or your overall performance based on your cup choices (pushing for it, or resting players) though, it could be looked at in different ways!
Mostly it goes to the guy who won the league. I recall a guy won two cups but 'only' finished 3rd in Division 1 so did not get manager of the season. He isn't bitter π
Another way of looking at it is that you played below 50% in two games you thought you would lose against top 4 teams so that you could play 72% against teams you thought you could, and did, beat.
Appeal Blow Out fine in match 48
48 Apr 05 L 0 - 6 @ Elgin City
2nd place team were at home. ABE sat 13th in Div 2
ABE played 44% SL
Appeal that this 6 goal defeat was unlucky, and the match was not thrown.
On same day, a teams 5th in Div 1 at time played just 39% and was not blowout
On same day a team 10th in Div 3 played 47% and avoided a blowout
On same day a team in top half on Div 2 played 32%, yes 32% at home, and avoided a playoff.
ABE made an effort to compete in this match.
Do a few mamagers wish to speak up to think this was unlucky and blowout fine could maybe be refunded?
Appeal Blow Out fine in match 47
47 Apr 05 L 0 - 6 Hibernian
ABE played 48% SL
ABE faced 7 shots.
ABE lost 6-0
Appeal that this was statistically unlucky, and the match was not thrown.
Furthermore, oppostion fielded SEVEN players who finished in negative EL so were going hard in this match.
3 further players for opposition ended with zero EL.
What is main criteria managers place when voting in the poll?
Who over-achieved? Or who dominated much of season?
Well done the top 5 winners. Previously there was always multiple joint winners in top 5 places, but this handful heads above the rest.
Frustrating to have missed a couple of weeks, so it's genius to have the "best 7" count rule so a dozen or more don't give up before the end.
Well run. Well done. Congrats Paul at EF for both.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 10 12/4/25:
AYR(13) DUM(13) DEE(13) EST(13) EDI(13) ELG(13) HIB(13) STI(13)
My late positing this week didn't seem to have to much of an effect, as we had 18 entries, the same as last time, with all the front runners submitting predictions. This was a high-scoring round, an average score of 5.94, with the only really tricky games proving to be the draw between Ayr and Dundee United and St Mirren's win at Falkirk.
No less tha eight teams scored seven points this week, so it's a generous 13k each to David at Hibs, Roy at Stirling, William at Edinburgh, Paul at Ayr, Jason at Elgin, Colin at Dumbarton, Tyron at East Stirling and Eduard at Dundee.
Despite a poor last round, East Fife had done enough and pipped Eduard's Dundee by one point. Other prizes go to Stirling, East Stirlingshire and Motherwell.
Thanks to everyone who took part, see you next season!
Prediction | AYR v DUU | DEV v EST | BER v FOR | COV v PT | DFA v ROS | EDI v STI | FAL v SM | KIL v QP |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 17% | 100% | 33% | 17% | 28% | 94% | 33% | 61% |
Away | 72% | 0% | 61% | 83% | 56% | 0% | 61% | 28% |
Draw | 11% | 0% | 6% | 0% | 17% | 6% | 6% | 11% |
Banker Count | 6% | 39% | 0% | 6% | 0% | 50% | 0% | 0% |
Result | 3 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 |
Round 10 Scores | |
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Team | Points |
Ayr | 7 |
Dumbarton | 7 |
Dundee | 7 |
East Stirlingshire | 7 |
Edinburgh | 7 |
Elgin City | 7 |
Hibernian | 7 |
Stirling | 7 |
Alloa | 6 |
Falkirk | 6 |
St Johnstone | 6 |
Aberdeen | 5 |
Arbroath | 5 |
East Fife | 5 |
Livingston | 5 |
Stranraer | 5 |
Cowdenbeath | 4 |
Motherwell | 4 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | D1 44 | D2 47 | D3 50 | Best 7 | Special | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R8 | R9 | R10 | R7 | Total | |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 7 | 5 | 46 | 5 | 51 |
2 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 46 | 4 | 50 |
3 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 42 | 5 | 47 |
4 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 43 | 3 | 46 |
5 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 41 | 3 | 44 |
6 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 7 | 5 | 39 | 2 | 41 |
6 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 7 | 36 | 5 | 41 |
8 | Ayr United | 5 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 34 | 5 | 39 | ||
8 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 36 | 3 | 39 |
10 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 7 | 34 | 4 | 38 | |
10 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 33 | 5 | 38 | |
12 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 6 | 33 | 4 | 37 | |
12 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 31 | 6 | 37 | ||
12 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 32 | 5 | 37 | ||
12 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 32 | 5 | 37 | |
16 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 33 | 3 | 36 | ||
17 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 32 | 3 | 35 | ||
18 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 32 | 2 | 34 | |
19 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 30 | 3 | 33 | |||
20 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 28 | 4 | 32 | ||
21 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 31 | 31 | ||
22 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 26 | 4 | 30 | |||
23 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 25 | 4 | 29 | ||||
24 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 23 | 4 | 27 | ||
24 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 23 | 4 | 27 | ||||
26 | Dumbarton | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 7 | 24 | 24 | |||||
26 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 24 | 24 | ||||
28 | Forfar | 4 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 15 | 3 | 18 | |||||
29 | Brechin City | 3 | 4 | 7 | 7 | ||||||||
29 | Dunfermline | 4 | 3 | 7 | 7 | ||||||||
31 | Aberdeen | 5 | 5 | 5 | |||||||||
32 | Albion | 3 | 3 | 3 |
Season 58 Prizes | ||
---|---|---|
Place | Team | Prize |
1 | East Fife | 3 OTF |
2 | Dundee | 2 OTF |
3 | Stirling | 1 OTF |
4 | East Stirlingshire | 2 TP |
5 | Motherwell | 1 CP |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 51:
Dundee FC - MVP #9: 25k (Wdw)
Fraserburgh - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Hearts - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
Dumbarton - MVP #6: 25k (dWw)
Livingston - MVP #7: 25k (wWD)
Albion Rovers - MVP #5: 25k (wWw)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Saint Mirren - MVP #5: 25k (WwD)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 50:
Annan Athletic - MVP #6: 25k (WdW)
Greenock Morton - MVP #3: 1 TP (Www)
Most of us who actually know where we will be finishing or have little to play for in the last couple of games, tend to be more involved in not having suspensions starting next season.
We tend to miss the important games that others are involved in where not only championships and promotion can be won, but even relegation and playoffs too.
Good luck to all - my games won't affect my nor my opponents fate, so I can say that.
PS Ross (ABE) - remember to journal and put in your POTS player (and 50 words about him - that'll net you 50k next season. 9 teams have done so, so far, and EVERY 3rd division side should -the saving on CPs is up to 300k. π°π°
Exciting day today. Very much possible that in all 3 divisions it comes down to the final seconds to crown the champions.
Im usually not one of the contenders, so I have no idea how rare this is. It is rare that my team is involved though π€£
Best of luck to everyone playing for something today!
Ross, think you will get the 100k for basically Not winning a sponsorship.
BUT spend 10 minutes at the start of the season and update your Bios (team and personal) - it's 200k for the effort- you haven't done it for at least 25 seasons. You would have earned 5,000k in that time.. just saying...π°π°π° πππ
All teams ticked with orders in for match 50.
Don't think I have even seen that before at high noon with 3 hours until deadline.
Or is it 4 hours to go?
Why is clock changed anyway? Historically to help farmers some might say?
Why can't farmers just change their working start time depending on daylight?
Or farmers too busy counting their millions of vast area of land and greenfield they own?
Anyway. As you were. Stop.
Earn 100k in participation bonus to receive another 100k from sponsor?
Seems reasonable.
Don't think I even bid in sponsorship auction.
But here at Aberdeen I accept the challenge.
Not sure what the guidelines are for participation money? Is it number of words that is paid?
Number of sentences? Perhaps. Maybe. Just maybe.
I like a full stop. Clear definition of a new sentence on the way and will follow.
Did I say I like full stops? Just stop.
Earn 100k in participation bonus Div 1: CEL CLY CB DUM HAM MOT Div 2: ABE AI ALB GM INV MON PET RAN Div 3: BER COV DEV DFA EST KIL SM STI |
100k | default sponsor for all |
ABE
Bournemouth 0 - 0 Fulham
Arsenal 4 - 1 Brentford
Brighton 2 - 0 Leicester City
Chelsea 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 5 - 1 West Ham
Man. City 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 3 - 1 Man. United
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Everton
Southampton 0 - 5 Aston Villa
Wolves 1 - 1 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
EPL
Bournemouth 3 - 3 Fulham
Arsenal 3 - 1 Brentford
Brighton 2 - 1 Leicester City
Chelsea 3 - 2 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 2 - 1 West Ham
Man. City 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 1 - 1 Man. United
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Everton
Southampton 1 - 3 Aston Villa
Wolves 1 - 3 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Yes, on many occasions Roy, most times I have to go over my comments and reduce to fit it in. I'm sure many others have noticed it too and occasionally run over to a 2nd comment. ππ
Dave and I have been commenting on Cove's woes this season in the pre-match comments for their game Vs Partick today.
But it looks like it's removing the last 2-3 letters from the 99 characters allowed. My guess is it's 96. Anyone else spotted this?
Bournemouth 2 - 2 Fulham
Arsenal 1 - 0 Brentford
Brighton 2 - 1 Leicester City
Chelsea 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 2 - 1 West Ham
Man. City 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 3 - 0 Man. United
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Everton
Southampton 1 - 3 Aston Villa
Wolves 1 - 1 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Any team not winning an auction lot will be allocated the back-up default lot for participation bonus.
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 400k | COW -- NAI -- FAL |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 400k | STE -- ELG -- DUU |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | STJ -- EF -- PT |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 400k |
FRA -- HIB -- ROS |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 300k | ARB -- QOS -- AYR |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | HEA -- ANN -- FOR |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | SRA -- BRE -- |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | DEE -- ALO -- QP |
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | 200k | RR -- -- |
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | 200k | LIV -- -- EDI |
Earn 100k in participation bonus Div 1: CEL CLY CB DUM HAM MOT Div 2: ABE AI ALB GM INV MON PET RAN Div 3: BER COV DEV DFA EST KIL SM STI |
100k | default sponsor for all |
Bournemouth 2-1 Fulham
Arsenal 3-1 Brentford
Brighton 2-0 Leicester City
Chelsea 3-1 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 2-1 West Ham
Man City 2-1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 2-1 Man United
Nottingham Forest 2-1 Everton
Southampton 1-1 Aston Villa
Wolves 1-1 Tottenham
Newcastle 2-0 Crystal Palace
Thanks to Mark for listening to me, then contributing to get the final draft, and hopefully thanks to my colleagues who will take part. Remember if your lad gets 1,2,3 SLs it will be CPs you can spend on other players so there is a hidden bonus in you taking part. I see PT and SRA are up 1st on Journals to pick their lads and both will pick up the bonus for their team. I am going on now - 30th April isn't too far away..
For some reason I didn't think you could use an aggressive defender to manmark a player. Don't know why. But it's not in the rules that you can't and it's the effective marking SL that's used so it would have a bigger effect when marking.
There are a number of defenders well known for their man-marking skills but when it comes to the big games it;s the midfielders who marked their counterparts out of the game that stand out - Bobby Charlton marked Frank Beckenbauer in the 66 final, Lothar Matthaus smothered Maradona in the 90 final and to a lesser extent Park Ji-Sung was Pirlo's shadow in when Man Utd played AC Milan in the Champions League
Well done David and Mark. Looks really well put together. Love the settings you gents have landed on and look forward to seeing how it plays out.
Gents,
Mark happy to trial (and review next season) a Player of the Season per team and has contributed to most of the points below:
It is a trial, off season is on us soon, so why not take part, and do it NOW whilst it is still fresh..??
Who knows, if this takes off then next season we could trial “Youth POTS”
Team | xP |
MOT | 69,6 |
FRA | 50,9 |
ARB | 49,6 |
CLY | 45,8 |
STE | 41,2 |
DUM | 41,1 |
DEE | 40,3 |
SRA | 38,6 |
LIV | 37,2 |
COW | 36,6 |
HAM | 33,7 |
RR | 33,3 |
HEA | 32,2 |
CB | 26,2 |
CEL | 19,7 |
STJ | 19,5 |
For those of you who haven't noticed: MOT already claimed the #1 season spot of the xP table last week.
The several races for the several also runs still remain pretty much open.
Team | Luck |
HEA | +13,8 |
ARB | +10,4 |
STE | +5,8 |
HAM | +4,3 |
LIV | +3,8 |
DEE | +2,7 |
STJ | +2,5 |
COW | -0,6 |
CLY | -0,8 |
CB | -1,2 |
SRA | -1,6 |
FRA | -1,9 |
DUM | -2,1 |
RR | -2,3 |
CEL | -4,7 |
MOT | -7,6 |
Much more interesting: the lucky guy ranking (no lucky gal in this league).
HEA claim a solid lead though by now. While 3.4 luck vs ARB are not quite insurmountable, I wouldn't bet against the beloved Hearts.
Fascinating, Steve. In all the times I've read through the rules I never picked up that 'fighting marking' was only for aggressive. My brain had always shortcut it to aggressive and dirty. Particularly relevant information for playing against ALO
Apologies to everyone, I have only just realised that I've never posted the round 10 entry form....it's on the Notebook now....
One other difference is with marking. A normal SL 32 player can only be marked down to 8 EffSL (75% lost) no matter what the SL(s) of the marking player(s). His Shooting SL isn't affected.
If aggressive his EffSL goes up to 40 and this can only be reduced to 20 by marking (50% loss).
With dirty it can be reduced to 10 (back to 75%).
I have never figured out what happens with fractions.
Is there another round of the prediction league remaining ?
First off, great idea, David. I like the overall structure and think it would be a nice touch. A few thoughts below regarding the conversation on here:
No matter what the final details are, I think this will be a good addition that should add some fun and a slight change of pace. I trust David and Mark can iron out the details to reach a fun and balanced implementation.
Realized I didn't address David's comment on bookings. Both aggressive and dirty increase the odds of your player receiving a booking/sending off and give a chance for giving away a penalty kick. But, the two tactics both increase those odds by the same amound compared to normal and passive
Same boost to your stats, that is all correct.
Main difference is injury chance. Dirty is often preferable when you have an equal or stronger bench than your opponent, or you just think the drop off for your opponent's subs will be substantial enough to benefit you. If you play aggressive, you increase the injury chances for each team x2. If you play dirty, you increase the injury chances for your team x3 and the opposing team x5. With multiple players using the tactic, this gap in injury odds between your side and the opponent grows.
I was always under the impression that d was a tactic that could cause an injury to an opponent's player. Not sure if there is a comensurate increase to your lad's chances of a sending off (or yellow card) - thinking there should be if currently there isn't. But other managers out there will know for sure. Goodness, I am fairly stepping up my participation - sure I am going to get the max 4000k now. :-)
11 aggressive in cup final today, and 3 set to play dirty.
Both increase SL by the same.
Both use 7 EL in 90 minutes.
So what is the benefit of 'a' vs 'd' ?
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through Apologies - Sharp scored and I missed it. :
INV(100) LIV(100)
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through SESL Cup Final INV v DEE 9/4/25 WINNINGS:
ALB(300) ANN(300) ARB(300) COW(300) DEV(300) DUM(300) DEE(300) EF(300) EDI(300) ELG(300) FAL(300) FRA(300) HIB(300) INV(200) KIL(300) MOT(300) PT(300) SRA(300)
I like the betting idea, as gives rest if us 'also-rans' an added interest in Wednesday cup matches.
The following teams receive Betting on Cup Final through SESL Cup Final - INV v DEE 9/4/25:
ALB(-100) ANN(-100) ARB(-100) COW(-100) DEV(-100) DUM(-100) DEE(-100) EF(-100) EDI(-100) ELG(-100) FAL(-100) FRA(-100) HIB(-100) INV(-100) KIL(-100) LIV(-100) MOT(-100) PT(-100) SRA(-100)
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Fulham
Arsenal 1 - 1 Brentford
Brighton 4 - 0 Leicester City
Chelsea 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 3 - 0 West Ham
Man. City 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 2 - 0 Man. United
Nottingham Forest 2 - 0 Everton
Southampton 0 - 8 Aston Villa
Wolves 2 - 0 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
11 Games this gameweek starting onSaturday lunchtime
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Fulham
Arsenal 2 - 0 Brentford
Brighton 2 - 0 Leicester City
Chelsea 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 2 - 0 West Ham
Man. City 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 2 - 1 Man. United
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Everton
Southampton 0 - 2 Aston Villa
Wolves 2 - 1 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
I like the idea. Another quirk adding some more interest to the league and manager decision.
The 1/2/3 levels are a good idea. One player can make a difference but if every team has the same option it might not have as big an impact on future results. And if it did why not? Would be interesting to find out.
My own added suggestion which goes completely against what other managers have been saying about PU would be to add the SL preseason and not include it in PU.
On a week where Liverpool finally lose away and none of the top 5 win we have a 3 way
in the predictions.
Andrew Foss Grant 9
Cameron Archibald 9
Alon Atie 9
Paul Cockyne 8
Dave Smyth 5
Andy Shaw 4
Numbers. It is possible to end the season with 0/22 player. He then, could finish the following season at 1/30. Then go on to be 2/35 - if correctly CP'd. That means it is possible to have a 3/30 at the start of the following season. You need to start with a 0/10 but it can be done.
From 3/30, div 3 team claims he is their POTS and by MSA he is 3/43 and ends the season 3/38 or hold off at 3/39 and could finish the sesson at 3/39. Starts the following season at 4/32 - I think.
I am not saying I don't like this idea but to suggest that MSA would counter any benefit is - in my opinion - somewhat misleading.
Carry on...
I do remember that tournament and that match against Kevin however, as a point of order, I have to say it was not in the final. I know who won that tournament and was not Kevin or Steve ;-)
It is a better story to make it the final though...
It's a yes from me.
Those not keen and can side step it if they wish.
Any other managers got an opinion on this?
I didn't say the additions would NOT count to PUs - I laid it open for discussion (and a few lads are earning participation money discussing so some good has come of it). I suggested initially 1SL per player - Mark suggested perhaps a 1/2/3 based on divisions, so don't shoot the messenger. And it would be Mark who would either abandon the idea or put a Poll out where managers could vote on it.
I am still looking - think I found 1 player in the 3rd division who just might make the 3/40, but if the bonus was either part of PUs or all divisions got the same say +1 then it would not arise.
Just glad some people are not just on looking to shoot holes in anything that might assist teams or just might brighten up some lives. And the sun is still shining - more positives.
Thinking I won't bother about it - (apart from commenting which earns me some cash for CPs next season - some people don't realise they have a great game here - fortunately many of us do realise it.
PS I will be on around 2pm GMT tomorrow to close off the betting on the SESL Cup Final - not before 2pm, but not long after.
Interesting initiative (laid out on a Journal entry yesterday by HIB boss)
I'd lean towards having the SL boost part of PU also. So it's a small skill level boost from teams first match of season. Pre-applied CP if you like, at no outlay cost.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Apr 6th:
ALO(50) ARB(50) DEE(50) EF(50) FAL(25) FOR(35) FRA(25) HEA(25) HIB(50) LIV(25) MOT(50) NAI(15) PT(30) QP(25) SRA(20)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Mar 30th:
ARB(25) DEE(50) EF(50) EST(15) EDI(35) FAL(25) FRA(15) HEA(35) HIB(50) LIV(10) MOT(50) NAI(5) PT(10) PET(5) ROS(20) SM(20) STI(30) SRA(20)
So at the end of the day it's a little freebie for any team who makes the effort. It does mean the player can have 10 CPs added to his training but as the minimum age for a recipient next season will be age 3, MSA will take away some of the benefit, but it IS a benefit. I always wonder why people can't embrace an idea instead of looking for the benefits - I only suggested it to Mark as an extra - most managers might be happy to accept it for minimum effort. Maybe I'm wrong.. π’π’
Let's do some numbers.
I asked if the added SLs were counted for PU purposes. It was confirmed that not.
The current apex player is a 3/35 (usually GK or FW) before PSA.
After this "not a game changer" the exactly same player would turn up a 3/40 for Div3 teams only.
If you don't consider a GK 40 a game changer, you should probably read the rules again.
I wouldn't care much if the bonus was the same for all Divs.
I would care much less if it would count for PU.
I don't disagree with the POTS concept.
I do very much disagree with game breaking benefits.
Why not just 100k - and maybe even 1 SL within the PU limits?
On the fence with this - after all it's only 1 to 3 free CP. But I'm not not so sure about another 10 PU being allowed. And I bet all decent age 2 GKs get it, maybe age 3 as well. Another 2 PU is another 2 SL and after MSA it's still another 2 SL unless you go over 19 or 29 due to the award. And we all take GKs past that don't we?
Remember any 3,2,1 SLs added to an age 3 or 4 player (aged after PSA) will basically lose it all by MSA next season. This is not a game changer for any team - just an added temporary perk to a player for those managers who wish it. π
Eduard,
NO - the SLs would be physically added and would not be counted towards the PU 10.
Would prefer any queries to be just that - queries- not complaints or scares.
Nothing is in stone - it is an idea to see if it could be popular.
John, maybe a rush to the 3rd division would please teams wanting promotion - but to go there for a one off + 3SL for one player, really?
But hopefully others might come back and comment.. π€π€
It happened by accident and it was an NMR team that caused it. I realised the conditions for the exploit and managed, with luck, to achieve it. I've only used it once and will never use it again. It enabled my team to win the semi-final and final.
As I said, Kevin said it was tantamount to cheating as I was exploiting a software glitch that not everyone was aware of.
Per David Blairs journal posted today.
Decent idea outlined on each of us selecting our Player of the Season
I like how the lower division teams get a marginal benefit of an extra SL or two.
If DEE will genuinely take a double relegation just to benefit from 2 (two) skill level, then I'm sure 5th place in Div 2 and Div 3 next weekend would bite your hand off at that offer.
The player would receive +3/2/1 SLs depending upon which division his team FINISHES this season in – 3rd Div/2ndDiv/1st Div.
I suppose those extra SLs are included in the PU calculation.
Otherwise the effects would be quite ridiculous - and I would seriously consider dropping DEE to Div3 and just go for cup runs.
Team | Junk | JDs |
ARB | 12 | 7 |
HEA | 9 | 7 |
LIV | 9 | 6 |
STJ | 7 | 6 |
COW | 7 | 4 |
DEE | 7 | 1 |
CLY | 6 | 3 |
SRA | 6 | 2 |
FRA | 6 | 0 |
MOT | 5 | 1 |
STE | 5 | 0 |
RR | 4 | 0 |
HAM | 3 | 2 |
CB | 3 | 1 |
DUM | 2 | 2 |
CEL | 2 | 2 |
We have a WINNER!
With just 2 matches left, ARB have an uncatchable 3 match lead in the most prestigious junk trophy.
This might not quite the trophy Cameron really wanted.
But for real, who cares about championship #58 or cup #45 - when you are the sole winner of the very 1st Clever Management Trophy!!!
Congratulations!
Need a part 2.
Not specifics - but a little more detail, and the outcome, and fall-out.
I won't be doing that again (probably) and as Morrison is on 8 DP and we face two strict referees it's unlikely he'll play this weekend.
Agree with Eduard about just using GK save percent. Easy to check and managers could put forward their player so Commish doesn't have to check every team.
I once had a keeper "robbed" of golden gloves back in the email days. He played 45 minutes and saved the only shot he faced for a 75.something rating. He was appearing top of the stats week after week. Then in the final week he disappeared (quite rightly, too).
There is one exploit I discovered on SESL (in a match not involving my team and it has happened again) by accident and managed to use in a match. This was in an invitational competition by Adam Meney. My team was Mutant Enemy (some might remember) and we faced Kevin Martin in the final. It left a bad taste in his mouth and he all but accused me of cheating. I've never tried it again, and it's difficult to set up for certain. And I won't disclose what happened.
Liam Polworth (SRA) is second in the "Shooting Squib" list for Div One with 13 misses from 13! It is only worth a trivial $100k but for bankrupt teams like the Blues this is a lifeline. Number one in the list Pellow (CB) is sitting proudly top with 15 from 15 misses! Dilemma: Do I play Polworth and hope he hits row ZZ a couple of times to get some $$ with the risk is that he accidentally machine guns one into the top corner, ruining his growing reputation? If he does not play then we need Pellow to trip over himself in the opposite direction box and bundle one over himself. Pellow is on 4 EL so it is unlikely he will play much or CB score against HEA / DEE. Re-positioning Poleworth as a FW might also increase his chances of stardom?! Oh the pressure of top level Management......
Very much appreciate the insights from Steve and Eduard. I think the conclusion that the awards for GK and MotM are too high is probably correct, if fixing the formulae or using a different metric is prohibitively difficult as Steve says. Now, Mark might have some creative tricks up his sleeve for how he handles it. But, I do enjoy seeing a creative loophole exploited, as Steve has done. Will I enjoy it if it becomes widespread season after season? Maybe not as much, ha!
DEE throwing a match against ARB would certainly be a new low in terms of ways for MOT to lose the title. Would beat out season 55 where 1st placed MOT and 2nd placed STJ each faced 3rd placed CEL in the second to last weekend...and CEL put in T-11 orders against MOT and NMR'd against STJ. No, no, not bitter at all about it, why do you ask? π
ALO's play was an obvious exploit - and gave me some ideas for next week: Ghadzhalov might need some "practice" vs ARB.
The GK award formula is clearly disfunctional. Whoever thought that shots faced was a "performance" by the keeper!?
The solution is of course very simple: rank the GKs by save % - with a minimum of e.g. 900 mins played. Easily done by hand, problem solved.
Anyway, all awards should be scaled down, e.g. 50k to 100k per award max.
The winners would still get the bragging rights, but not get ridiculous amounts of cash.
This way Steve (and anybody else) simply wouldn't care too much about the Fair Play (Overperformer, Shooting Squid, ...) Trophy - and not turn to such silly moves like this week.
Just watched the ALO v RAN match - Stevie T was spot on - never seen such a wholesome shot allocation before.
I admit I'm not too happy about what I did but it started out as frustration that I can't get anywhere near the Fair Play award. My tactics, for a long time, have been to win 2, lose 1 (or at least try) with the lose 1 being a 50% lineup playing passive. I probably play more passive players that anyone else. Even Peterhead play normal in the "lose 1 hope not to get a blowout fine" tactic. I don't know if we're just unlucky with ref allocation or in the games themselves. In our last 10 games we have had one Strong Fair ref and one Loose ref (neutral game), the rest have been Strict or Homer (with us away) or both. The next two games are Strict. Yes I know it's random and I haven't checked all my games or other teams. But none of the Strict or Homer Fair refs appear in the top 5 most used refs this season.
Another was from Season 49, my first season at Alloa. We were battling with EST to avoid the Woden Spoon even though the "loser" would probably get a cash injection from the Robin Hood rule. With 6 matches to go we were level on 14 points. We finished on 24 and EST on 20 but EST were rewarded. Also we were in the running for the Golden Gloves trophy but in match 50 Forfar were thrashed 7-1, their keeper had many shots to save and they game overtook us despite conceding 7. We won 2-1 and drew 0-0 in those games and it cost us. I said then that Golden Gloves was broken but it's a major code rewrite when even simpler ones can't be done.
We were already relegated before Saturday's game and I realised that Morrison had a chance on most man of the match awards and also golden gloves if the team played poorly.
Fairly clever way to lock down the golden gloves award cash, Steve, I'll give you that.
Perhaps not a method we want to be encouraging in the game, long-term, but certainly not against the rules. Does perhaps give some urgency to updating the longstanding flaws in the golden gloves/GK rating formula, however.
I could be wrong but I think Alloa might have been involved in two record breaking games today.
Against Rangers they had a 140% shot chance to start the game. This means a guaranteed shot or offside every minute until they went 4-0 up when it dropped to 70%.
Against Montrose they had a lower shot chance, though still very high, and Morrison had a great game so they didn't go four goals up until late. Innthe end they had 46 chances and another 7 offsides. Morrison saved 34 of the 40 on target shots he faced. Maybe two records here.
I started following Forfar once I got the SESL team (never heard of the team before), and I try to use some RL player names, but like Richard said, players go in and out of these teams faster than our seasons!
Today was a key win for Forfar to avoid relegation...
I try to stick to Nairn players but generally change so quickly at non league. Our 0/17 FW Matthew Wright, joined Nairn at the start of the season but was sold to Brora mid way. Pretty sure Matty Wright at ELG will be the same Matthew Wright as potentially on loan there from Ross County before joining Nairn.
I support Nairn in real life and made the trip down to Brechin today to watch them get horsed 3-0. First time to Brechin since they joined the highland league a few year ago. Tight at the top of the highland league as well, 1 game to go both teams (Brora and Brechin) level on points but Brora have a far superior goal difference.
When I first took over at Deveronvale I always used real player names and followed them, even reading their forum. Back then they were a decent side and won the Highland League and even beat a top tier team in the Scottish Cup.
Just a thought here:
What if the final league position determined your seeding for the next season SESL Cup?
How it would work? Top 8 from each division go into different SESL Cup groups. So we just draw what group each of the top 8 from each division would go to.
The rest can be random.
This will make the latter part of the season a bit more interesting for teams that can get to fight for 8th place (or better) and get into a SESL group for next season that will not have any of the other top 8 of your division.
Just a though, and not too hard to implement.
Cheers!
Do I get any price for the worst prediction score of the season?
To get only 1 point is almost as hard as to get 7 points... ;)
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 9 5/4/25:
ARB(50) EF(50)
A low entry (18) this week but a high average score, just a snidge below five. The away wins for Queen of the South, Nairn and Greenock Morton tripped most people up.
Two managers notched up seven points, so it's 50k each for Cameron at Arbroath and Paul at East Fife.
With the last round coming up next Saturday, it looks as if East Fife will some out as winners - Eduard at Dundee will need to notch up a maximum score to overtake them. There's plenty of competition for the other prizes, though. Fifth place is enough to get you a CP and tied teams are bracketed together for prizes.
I will post the entry form for round ten on the Notebook shortly.
Prediction | ABE v HIB | ELG v MON | BRE v PET | ALO v RAN | AI v QOS | ALB v NAI | ANN v INV | EF v GM |
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Home | 6% | 78% | 56% | 0% | 78% | 83% | 83% | 94% |
Away | 94% | 17% | 28% | 89% | 11% | 6% | 11% | 0% |
Draw | 0% | 6% | 17% | 11% | 11% | 11% | 6% | 6% |
Banker Count | 22% | 6% | 0% | 28% | 0% | 11% | 28% | 6% |
Result | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 |
Round 8 Scores |
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Team | Points |
Arbroath | 7 |
East Fife | 7 |
Ayr | 6 |
Dundee | 6 |
East Stirlingshire | 6 |
Hibernian | 6 |
Motherwell | 6 |
Stirling | 6 |
Stranraer | 6 |
Alloa | 5 |
Cowdenbeath | 5 |
Edinburgh | 5 |
Ross County | 5 |
Hearts | 4 |
Elgin City | 3 |
Falkirk | 3 |
Deveronvale | 2 |
Forfar | 1 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | D1 44 | D2 47 | Best 7 | Special | |||
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Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R8 | R9 | R7 | Total | |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 7 | 46 | 5 | 51 |
2 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 44 | 4 | 48 |
3 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 41 | 3 | 44 |
4 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 40 | 3 | 43 |
4 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 38 | 5 | 43 |
6 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 7 | 38 | 2 | 40 |
7 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 36 | 3 | 39 |
8 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 33 | 5 | 38 |
9 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 31 | 6 | 37 | |
9 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 32 | 5 | 37 | |
11 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 30 | 4 | 34 | |
11 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 30 | 4 | 34 | |
11 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 32 | 2 | 34 |
11 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 6 | 29 | 5 | 34 | |
15 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 6 | 28 | 5 | 33 | |
15 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 30 | 3 | 33 | ||
17 | Ayr United | 5 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 27 | 5 | 32 | ||
17 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 28 | 4 | 32 | |
19 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 28 | 3 | 31 | ||
20 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 26 | 4 | 30 | ||
21 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 6 | 4 | 25 | 4 | 29 | |||
21 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 26 | 3 | 29 | ||
23 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 28 | 28 | ||
24 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 23 | 4 | 27 | |
24 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 23 | 4 | 27 | |||
26 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 24 | 24 | |||
27 | Forfar | 4 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 15 | 3 | 18 | ||||
28 | Dumbarton | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 17 | 17 | |||||
29 | Brechin City | 3 | 4 | 7 | 7 | |||||||
29 | Dunfermline | 4 | 3 | 7 | 7 | |||||||
31 | Albion | 3 | 3 | 3 |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 48:
Hibernian - MVP #6: 25k (Wwd)
Nairn County - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
Deveronvale - MVP #6: 25k (wWw)
Kilmarnock - MVP #5: 25k (WwD)
Following on from player names blogs....
does anyone now look for their sesl teams results of real life team?
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 47:
Dumbarton - MVP #5: 25k (WWd)
Elgin City - MVP #8: 25k (WdW)
Brechin City - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Partick Thistle - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wDW)
Edinburgh City - MVP #7: 25k (WWw)
Aston Villa 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Brentford 2-3 Chelsea
Crystal Palace 1-1 Brighton
Everton 0-1 Arsenal, already kicked off
Fulham 0-2 Liverpool
Ipswich Town 0-2 Wolves
Leicester City 1-2 Newcastle
Man United 2-1 Man City
Tottenham 3-0 Southampton
West Ham 2-1 Bournemouth
Where possible I try for real names for my team, but on occasions I've had themes -comedians, old players names, fruits etc. in OASL I'd make up names starting at the beginning of the alphabet - Andrew Blake, then Charlie Dickson (A, B, C, D and so on).
ps only a guess but Berwick's set up looks like an ESMS teams setup - they join initials and fore names using the _ - and Derek plays in many other games, likely a few ESMS games.
That's kinda spooky Steve ALO man-marking same player names at different clubs this weekend.
I am surprised more clubs don't have more player names relating to their real life team.
Not a criticism, but STE I noted have several players named after countries. COW after golfer names which is a decent theme, while format of BER is very old-school with underscore between first initial and surname that is quite intriguing.
Aston Villa 2 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Brentford 2 - 1 Chelsea
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Brighton
Everton 0 - 3 Arsenal
Fulham 1 - 1 Liverpool
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Wolves
Leicester City 0 - 3 Newcastle
Man. United 1 - 4 Man. City
Tottenham 2 - 1 Southampton
West Ham 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Back in the day I'm sure that duplicate names weren't allowed throughout the league (I could be wrong). Auction player names were picked by Commish I believe.
I mention this because tonight I was picking which players to mark in the game (47) against Rangers. Their highest SL FWs are Dessers and Danilo. I then did my lineup for match 48 and loaded player tactics and looked at players to mark. "Something not right here as their biggest SL FWs are Dessers and Danilo." Thinking I'd got the match numbers mixed up somehow I was frantically going back and forth. Then I realised that match 48 was aganst Montrose managed by James White who I know is a Rangers fan.
I was also a little confused as to why Danilo was a FW twice when he plays in midfield for Nottingham Forest.
Don't forget to enter the penultimate round - only nine in so far
Due next Wednesday and should prove to be a cracking game INV v DEE.
And one of our long serving managers Mark Boland will be in the middle (no jokes about white sticks and who is going to hold his guide dog please..ππ).
Once this Saturday's games are over, managers can look ahead to the Cup Final and put in their guesses as to the winner and any one of the scorers. Good luck - I can say that, we are not competing with each other, and Mark has the cash ready to reward the winners. π°π°π°
I need a winner - lost 50k in the semi finals... π’π’
HEA
Aston Villa 1 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Brentford 0 - 4 Chelsea
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Brighton
Everton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Fulham 1 - 3 Liverpool
Ipswich Town 1 - 0 Wolves
Leicester City 1 - 2 Newcastle
Man. United 1 - 1 Man. City
Tottenham 4 - 0 Southampton
West Ham 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Aston Villa 4 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Brentford 0 - 2 Chelsea
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Brighton
Everton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Fulham 0 - 3 Liverpool
Ipswich Town 1 - 0 Wolves
Leicester City 1 - 2 Newcastle
Man. United 1 - 1 Man. City
Tottenham 4 - 0 Southampton
West Ham 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Dare I ask what time deadline is for EPL predictions?
π€ͺ
Oops, copied and pasted, then forgot to review the predicted scores....
Aston Villa 0 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Brentford 0 - 2 Chelsea
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Brighton
Everton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Fulham 0 - 3 Liverpool
Ipswich Town 1 - 0 Wolves
Leicester City 1 - 2 Newcastle
Man. United 1 - 1 Man. City
Tottenham 4 - 0 Southampton
West Ham 1 - 1 Bournemouth
A very tight turnaround with next round starting on Saturday afternoon.
Lets see if we can get some predictions in by then
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Brentford 1 - 2 Chelsea
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Brighton
Everton 0 - 2 Arsenal
Fulham 1 - 2 Liverpool
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 Wolves
Leicester City 0 - 2 Newcastle
Man. United 1 - 2 Man. City
Tottenham 2 - 0 Southampton
West Ham 1 - 2 Bournemouth
Very tight week, with the winner only being decided in the final game tonight
BUt I managed to prevail in the end
Alon Atie 12.0
Andy Shaw 11.0
John McCarthy 10.5
David Blair 10.0
Paul Cockyne 6.5
Andrew Foss-Grant 5.5
Tight at the top of all 3 sesl divisions.
Everyone likes it tight at top, yeah?
Just 1 point separates top 2 teams in Sesl Div 1, same in Div 2, while Div 3 top 2 teams have SAME points.
Bravo.
"Betting closes 12 00 Wednesday..."
That isn't clear. 12.00 BST or 12.00 GMT? I went on Sanc Sunday to see how my game had gone and they hadn't run. It took a few moments to realise it wasn't yet 12.00 GMT. It's even worse cone October as I've got used to 1 PM kickoffs and end up NMRing. And no, I'm not saying the kickoffs should stay at 3 PM throughout the year, for a start deadlines are set by GMT so Commishes would have to check when we change and that could cause errors.
There is a countdown nearer the deadlines anyway though I'm not sure when that kicks in. So having a "deadlines is 3 hours before kick off" makes perfect sense to me. I'm not sure why folk seem to be having a go at Andy. Like many of us he has a life outside of SESL. And he's Commish of OASL which is in pre-season.
Betting closes 12:00 Wed 2nd April 2025
45 match deadlines so far this season had kicked off 15:00 hrs
15 minus 12 is 3 hours. (Today was 4 hours different.)
At 14:15 the MOT bet is said not to have been made when betting was closed.
Is it fair to say MOT submitted bet over 2 hours and 15 minutes late?
What time did you place MOT bet?
And you knew you were more than 2 hours late.
You were likely sleeping at 12 noon UK time as you suggest you live abroad.
You are frustrated you never placed bet earlier in week.
Had your bet lost today this maybe wouldn't be an issue.
You will have last laugh when you lift Div 1 title in a couple of weeks (kick off 15:00 GMT)
10 goals MOT have scored vs ARB this season in the league, and conceeded just 1 goal.
Focus on that positive Andy.
Your blog highlights the exact issue. It is hard to track what time kickoff is from abroad since our clocks changing do not mirror GMT. Knowing when deadlines change from being shorter and longer is hard to do. I am suggesting that, since we have a big clock before matches that counts down the time until kickoff...that we use that clock. Makes it much easier when it reads "predictions due 3 hours before kickoff" than needing to go to Google and do time zone conversions every week.
I am not looking for sympathy or credit for betting. I am requesting a small tweak to the format that hurts nobody while helping those of us not on UK time.
Front page states at poll bet area :-
"Betting closes 12:00 Wed 2nd April 2025
when 50k deducted from each team betting"
Matches are always 3pm. Ironically 4pm today UK.
Sympathy Andrew, but you had 6 days to bet but waited until after 2.15pm today. It's a shame, but this occasion it's on you buddy, sorry.
Sorry, gents. I think you are both misunderstanding my blog - I'm not asking for my bet to be counted. I'm asking for the deadline to be clarified for people who are not on UK time.
Mark asked me to cover some weeks for him, and asked if I'd wait till at least 1 hour AFTER the noon deadline to allow for some overseas differences.
Dave is right that entries are NOT time stamped so an entry needs to be put in at some point to close off entries.
I closed it off today around 2-15pm.
Problem is we can't wait till 3-59pm (minute before the game started) as monies should be deducted BEFORE the start of play - and you can't expect Mark to sit with a stop watch.
I sympathise with Andy but the noon deadline (and if you are on GMT you get an extra hour) is clear for all and other managers would spot an entry AFTER the closure.
Sorry, Andy. π
Issue came up once before and problem was bets are not time stamped. Therefore there is no audit trail when MOT placed bet. Someone could bet a minute after the match is played and unless adjudicator was online nearly constantly to monitor how would they know.
The bet money was deducted 3.30pm UK time per blog (no idea if that GMT or an hour out). Either way, MOT posted after David Blairs "no more betting message" on poll vote page therefore it may be assumed you were a few hours after the 12 noon deadline.
Perhaps. Presumed. No one is sure. But almost certainly after the published deadline.
Team xP
MOT 66,4
FRA 47,7
ARB 46,1
CLY 42,3
STE 37,7
DEE 36,3
SRA 35,7
DUM 35,5
COW 34,5
LIV 34,5
HAM 32,9
HEA 30,9
RR 30,4
CB 24,1
CEL 18,9
STJ 17,4
The big (and only) news is FRA now claiming best of the rest #2.
Everything else basically unchanged - including the very tight middle of the pack, #5 to #13.
STJ and CEL are fighting for (against?) the wooden spoon - not that they probably care too much about it.
Team Luck
HEA +12,1
ARB +10,9
STE +6,3
STJ +4,6
LIV +4,5
HAM +4,1
DEE +3,7
COW +0,5
CLY -1,3
FRA -1,7
SRA -1,7
CB -2,1
RR -2,4
DUM -2,5
CEL -6,9
MOT -8,4
Still the same two horse race.
With just 8.8 pts between #3 and #14 actually much more balanced than expected.
Can we change the betting wording on the polls to be formatted "poll closes X hours before kickoff"? This is twice I've put in my bet over an hour before kickoff and not had it counted, and I'm not sure when 12:00 is relative to the kickoff, especially with time changes. I usually can get bets in the day before, but if not I'd like to still be able to bet
52 Celtic (D.Denaro)
53 Celtic (D.Denaro)
54 Celtic (B.Nicholl)
55 St Johnstone (M.Creasey)
56 St Johnstone (M.Creasey)
57 Clyde (R.Cini)
I ignored 57!! Sorry........
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through SESL Cup Tie ARB v INV 2/4/2025:
ANN(150) ARB(50) COW(50) DEV(150) DUM(150) DEE(50) DUU(50) EDI(50) ELG(50) FRA(50) HEA(150) INV(150) LIV(150) PT(150) SRA(50)
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through SESL Cup tie ARB v INV 2/4/25:
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) ARB(-50) COW(-50) DEV(-50) DUM(-50) DEE(-50) DUU(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) FRA(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) INV(-50) LIV(-50) PT(-50) SRA(-50)
Maybe an April Fool or an in-joke from Andrew, but I don't follow the "winners from the last 5 seasons doomed at foot of Div 1"
Intrigued what has caused my brain fart?
CLY are 6th, HEA 5th, ARB 2nd. Doomed?
Granted STJ and CEL having a horlicks of a sad season.
Interesting that all the winners from the last 5 seasons are looking doomed at the bottom of Div One. Is it something about winning the title perhaps? Fortunately, SRA will never have to worry about this rather difficult side effect of being the best.
Tm Jk JDs
ARB 11 6
LIV 9 6
HEA 8 6
STJ 7 6
COW 7 4
CLY 6 3
SRA 6 2
DEE 6 1
FRA 6 0
MOT 5 1
STE 4 0
HAM 3 2
CB 3 1
RR 3 0
DUM 2 2
CEL 2 2
A disappointing week for leader ARB - no junk played at all.
With 2 weeks to go they even have to manage a last ditch effort by this week's double junk winner LIV.
Only the top 5 now with a (theoretical) chance to win the trophy.
Thanks for the warning - when is it?? ππ
I think games stay at 3pm but could be wrong - I know they were kept at 3pm recently but that was to help with reviews, and there aren't any of them now.
Just need to check the top of the page after tomorrow's fixtures - that'll tell you.
An extra hour to get orders in! Hooray!!
In the UK games kick off at 4 PM (and 5 PM Saturday).
With clock change in UK yesterday, how does that affect Sesl match kick offs?
2pm in real time? 4pm maybe?
Or still 3pm? π€
I laughed out loud to your last sentence!
Hope you on the mend soon Paul.
You can thank a splendid spreadsheet (thanks, Alan) and my ill health for the speed of the PL reports.
About a month or so ago I woke up with double vision and although it is improving I still can't drive, so am spending much time at home. I used to watch Winchester FC of a Saturday afternoon, but seeind one version of them is quite enough, seeing two would be extremely depressing.
Impressed at speed results were posted
π
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 45:
Motherwell - MVP #7: 25k (WDw)
Livingston - MVP #6: 25k (Wwd)
Albion Rovers - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWW)
Falkirk - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 8 29/3/25:
HEA(100)
Round 8 of the prediction league was a low-scoring affair, with an average score of 3.92 from 24 entries. Stranraer's win at Arbroath was only predicted by two managers, and the draw between Clydebank and Dumbarton by three. At the other end of the scale, everyone expected Fraserburgh to beat Raith Rovers, with seven managers picking this as their banker.
There was a lone winner this week, Dave at Hearts netting the 100k for his six points.
It's looking like a two-horse race between Dundee and East Fife at this stage. We'll be dropping the lowest score next week - but both the leaders have a three to drop so it could be very tight.
Next Saturday we move to Division 2 for the penultimate round. I will post the entry form on the Notebook shortly.
Prediction | ARB v SRA | MOT v STJ | HEA v STE | FRA v RR | DEE v LIV | CLY v HAM | CB v DUM | CEL v COW |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 88% | 75% | 38% | 100% | 54% | 54% | 29% | 8% |
Away | 8% | 4% | 50% | 0% | 29% | 29% | 58% | 83% |
Draw | 4% | 21% | 13% | 0% | 17% | 17% | 13% | 8% |
Banker Count | 21% | 25% | 4% | 29% | 8% | 0% | 4% | 4% |
Result | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 2 |
Round 8 Scores | |
---|---|
Team | Points |
Hearts | 6 |
Dundee | 5 |
East Fife | 5 |
Forfar | 5 |
Livingston | 5 |
Partick Thistle | 5 |
Alloa | 4 |
Arbroath | 4 |
Brechin | 4 |
Cowdenbeath | 4 |
Edinburgh | 4 |
Elgin City | 4 |
Motherwell | 4 |
Nairn | 4 |
Queens Park | 4 |
Ross County | 4 |
Ayr | 3 |
Dumbarton | 3 |
East Stirlingshire | 3 |
Hibernian | 3 |
St Johnstone | 3 |
Stirling | 3 |
Stranraer | 3 |
Stenhousemuir | 2 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | D1 44 | Special | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R8 | R7 | Total |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 47 |
2 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 45 |
3 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 40 |
3 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 40 |
5 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 39 |
6 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 38 |
7 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 37 |
7 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 6 | 37 |
7 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 37 |
10 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 36 |
11 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 33 | |
12 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 6 | 2 | 32 |
13 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 31 | |
13 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 31 | |
13 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 31 | |
16 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 30 | |
17 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 29 | |
17 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 29 | |
19 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 28 | |
20 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 27 | |
20 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 27 | ||
20 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 27 | |
23 | Ayr United | 5 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 26 | ||
24 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 25 | |
25 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 24 | ||
26 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 23 | ||
27 | Dumbarton | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 17 | ||||
27 | Forfar | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 17 | ||||
29 | Brechin City | 3 | 4 | 7 | ||||||
29 | Dunfermline | 4 | 3 | 7 | ||||||
31 | Albion | 3 | 3 | |||||||
6.16 | 3.36 | 5.00 | 5.29 | 4.19 | 3.61 | 3.92 | 3.92 |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 44:
Peterhead - MVP #4: 1 CP (wwD)
Hibernian - MVP #5: 25k (WwD)
East Fife - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWd)
Saint Mirren - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWd)
Bournemouth 2-1 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 3-0 Fulham
Brighton 1-1 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 2-1 Man United
Wolves 1-1 West Ham
Chelsea 3-2 Tottenham
Man City 2-0 Leicester City
Newcastle 1-1 Brentford
Southampton 1-1 Crystal Palace
Liverpool 2 - 0 Everton
When I inherited the prediction league it was a rule and we kept it for a long time. And then I think Roy raised it one season and there was a unaniomous agreement that if you throw a PL game you are missing the point completely, hence it was removed.
I've certainly done it a time or two since the rule was changed. Have even bet on myself to lose, knowing we needed to rest players...and then lost that prediction while managing a draw anyway. Don't think a point or two in the prediction league is worth risking a blowout or anything of the sort, so I doubt anyone would truly abuse the system. Even if they did, I'm not sure I'd lose much sleep over it. The game already works on an honor system that nobody is playing while throwing matches for their mates whenever they face each other. No use solving a problem that doesn't exist, in my opinion. If it becomes a problem, can always be re-evaluated then
Betting on one's own team. That was the rule but I'm glad it was changed, as it was silly to have to vote for your own team when it was obvious you couldn't gain a point. I like the current set up - even voted for my team to draw or lose and have no problem other clubs seeing how I see the game going. π°π°
The current rule is of course open to abuse but hopefully no manager would stoop so low as to chuck a match to win the PL
I do check when manager's teams are up for prediction which way they go.
But yes I was happy when the rule changed. A couple of years ago Stewart at Rangers was flying high in division one and my Stirling were struggling. I reckon I lost about 5 points in the prediction league that season saying Stirling were going to win whereas Stewart's Rangers won most of their games and the prediction league.
Betting on one's own team. That was the rule but I'm glad it was changed, as it was silly to have to vote for your own team when it was obvious you couldn't gain a point. I like the current set up - even voted for my team to draw or lose and have no problem other clubs seeing how I see the game going. π°π°
A reminder that the PL runs tomorrow, only 8 entrants so far.
And Cameron, there used to be a rule that you had to predict your own team to win. Not sure when or why this was changed. I don't think the current rule has ever been abused, though.
Curious at this rule.
Not a complaint.
Has there ever been concern a team flung a match for prediction point, or two? Highly unlikely .
HEA sends 905k, 10 TP to PT for Alan Rough (0/17 GK)
HEA sends Craig Gordon (5/19 GK) to DFA for 130k
CEL sends 400k, 15 TP, Andy Robertson (5/7 DF) to BRE for Lewis Martin (0/20 SD)
CEL sends 3 TP to EDI for 270k
PET sends 200k to CEL for 2 TP
Team | xP |
MOT | 60,8 |
ARB | 45,9 |
FRA | 42,9 |
CLY | 39,6 |
DEE | 36,1 |
STE | 33,7 |
COW | 32,4 |
DUM | 32,0 |
SRA | 31,7 |
HAM | 29,4 |
LIV | 28,9 |
HEA | 28,5 |
RR | 28,3 |
CB | 22,0 |
CEL | 18,1 |
STJ | 16,6 |
The top ranks seem to consolidate.
Still a very tight race between #6 and #13 with just 5 pts between them.
Team | Luck |
HEA | +11,5 |
ARB | +11,1 |
STE | +7,3 |
HAM | +4,6 |
LIV | +4,1 |
DEE | +3,9 |
STJ | +3,4 |
COW | -0,4 |
FRA | -0,9 |
CB | -1,0 |
CLY | -1,6 |
DUM | -3,0 |
RR | -3,3 |
SRA | -3,7 |
CEL | -6,1 |
MOT | -6,8 |
HEA back at the top - after ARB was slightly unlucky vs STE.
The MOT-ARB gap is closing, now only 17.9 pts.
I've occasionally mentioned that the luck and xP table calculations are static.
The main problem is that I have no access to the actual orders, e.g. I do not know if substitutions are conditional or fixed.
Therefore - as discussed recently - "bench strength" is not accounted correctly.
Sample HEA vs DUM:
Until min 60 easily dominated by DUM, 3-0 lead at 3.0-1.6 xG.
But in min 60 DUM went into Stall with their SL3 GK.
2 ways to count this:
- planned switch => massive advantages for HEA in the remaining 30 mins, thus 1.2 xP both
- conditional switch at 3 goal lead => 2.0 xP for DUM, since they would not have switched if not leading big
I chose variant 2, but this case shows the problems and limits of this approach.
Team | Junk | JDs |
ARB | 11 | 6 |
LIV | 7 | 6 |
HEA | 7 | 6 |
STJ | 7 | 6 |
COW | 7 | 4 |
SRA | 6 | 2 |
DEE | 6 | 1 |
FRA | 6 | 0 |
CLY | 5 | 2 |
MOT | 5 | 1 |
STE | 4 | 0 |
CEL | 2 | 2 |
HAM | 2 | 1 |
RR | 2 | 0 |
CB | 2 | 0 |
DUM | 1 | 1 |
It's lonely at the top. ARB may even be disappointed this week - they faced only one 30+% lineup.
The distribution is developing towards a bathtub curve. Most teams are by now either in the "get junk" or "get no junk" bucket.
Bournemouth 3 - 1 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 2 - 1 Fulham
Brighton 2 - 2 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 2 - 0 Man. United
Wolves 1 - 1 West Ham
Chelsea 1 - 1 Tottenham
Man. City 5 - 1 Leicester City
Newcastle 2 - 1 Brentford
Southampton 1 - 3 Crystal Palace
Liverpool 2 - 1 Everton
RR sends 375k to EST for 4 TP
RAN sends 2 CP to EST for 2 TP
"Reminder: trade window closes 28 March 2025"
who is buying?
who is selling?
Bournemouth 1 - 0 Ipswich Town Arsenal 2 - 0 Fulham Brighton 2 - 1 Aston Villa Notting For 0 - 1 Man. United Wolves 1 - 0 West Ham Chelsea 2 - 1 Tottenham Man. City 4 - 0 Leicester City Newcastle 2 - 2 Brentford Southampton 1 - 1 Crystal Palace Liverpool 4 - 0 Everton
Bournemouth 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 2 - 0 Fulham
Brighton 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 0 - 0 Man. United
Wolves 1 - 1 West Ham
Chelsea 2 - 1 Tottenham
Man. City 4 - 0 Leicester City
Newcastle 0 - 2 Brentford
Southampton 1 - 3 Crystal Palace
Liverpool 2 - 1 Everton
Bournemouth 3 - 1 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 2 - 1 Fulham
Brighton 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Man. United
Wolves 1 - 3 West Ham
Chelsea 2 - 0 Tottenham
Man. City 4 - 1 Leicester City
Newcastle 1 - 1 Brentford
Southampton 0 - 3 Crystal Palace
Liverpool 3 - 1 Everton
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through Guessing winner in SESL Cup tie DEE v DUM 25th March:
DEV(100) DEE(100) DUU(100) EDI(100) ELG(100) FAL(100) HIB(100) KIL(100) MOT(100)
Predictios for next midweek league games.
We are still currently completing the international break and then we have FA cup games this weekend.
But from next Tuesday round 30 of the league begins.
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 2 - 0 Fulham
Brighton 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Man. United
Wolves 2 - 1 West Ham
Chelsea 2 - 1 Tottenham
Man. City 3 - 0 Leicester City
Newcastle 2 - 1 Brentford
Southampton 0 - 2 Crystal Palace
Liverpool 2 - 0 Everton
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through SESL Cup Tie DEE v DUM 26th March:
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) COW(-50) DEV(-50) DUM(-50) DEE(-50) DUU(-50) EF(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) FRA(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) INV(-50) KIL(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) PT(-50) SRA(-50)
STI sends 100k to STE for Jorrel Hato (5/9 DF), Cambodia (6/10 MF)
MOT sends 1 TP to SRA for 95k
STI sends 1 TP to MOT for Sean OHannigain (6/14 FW)
MOT sends 190k to EST for 2 TP
please feel free to make an offer. happy to swap for CP
.....have asked CEL but no response so far........price might go down by Friday!!
Try CEL Stephen.
They probably need shift 10 TP before Friday, or when pre season TP allocated CEL may lose anything above 10 TP left at season end (due to maximum 50 rule)
Anyone got 2 TP to sell?
Roll up roll up
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Bonus Thru Mar 23rd:
ALO(10) AYR(25) COW(5) DUM(20) DEE(50) EF(50) EDI(30) FAL(20) HIB(25) LIV(10) MOT(50) PT(10) QP(20) ROS(20) STE(20) SRA(40)
ROS sends 3 TP to MOT for 280k
Delighted with the win, money is burning a whole in our pocket keen to spend it on some lovely CP if anyone has some spare?
ALB sends 2 TP to RAN for 2 CP
SRAs long queue of debtors were kept from the doors on Sunday with the emergency $33k payment for winning the predictions. Monday morning we find that the Wolves have returned overnight and are baying outside the corrigated iron gates howling for $$$. We have already sold the grass cuttings (currently our only growing income) and press ganged the ground staff to sea (working the ferry). Utter dispair.....it looks like even the Chairman's Roller will have to be auctioned......
No more errors, please! I'm losing points by the day as my score moves unstoppably towards zero.
Leons Deveronvale flying the flag for Division 3 here.
GL mate.
Thanks to Alan at COW for pointing this out....prize money for the "non-drop" round is 200k, lucky old Nairn!
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 7 (200k prize):
NAI(100)
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 7 22/3/25:
EF(-33) HIB(-33) NAI(100) SRA(-33)
Thanks to William at EDI, here are the corrected results (PET v INV was a draw). It would be nice to think that there are now no mistakes but do point them out if you see any and want me to despise you forever.
Nairn become the overall winners, congratulations to Richard who earns 100k, I'll reverse the prze money allocated incorreectly
Prediction | FRA v COW | PET v INV | MON v GM | ALO v AI | AYR v SM | ROS v KIL | EST v DFA | DEV v BER |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 96% | 48% | 28% | 56% | 32% | 48% | 72% | 96% |
Away | 0% | 28% | 68% | 24% | 56% | 40% | 24% | 0% |
Draw | 4% | 24% | 4% | 20% | 12% | 12% | 4% | 4% |
Banker Count | 12% | 0% | 8% | 4% | 8% | 0% | 4% | 60% |
Result | 1 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 |
Special | ||||||||||||
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D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | Lge 41 | Round 7 Scores | |||||
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R7 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 42 | Nairn | 6 | |
2 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 40 | Ayr United | 5 | |
3 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 37 | East Fife | 5 | |
3 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 37 | Edinburgh | 5 | |
5 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 35 | Hibernian | 5 | |
5 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 35 | Stenhousemuir | 5 | |
7 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 34 | Stirling | 5 | |
8 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 33 | Stranraer | 5 | |
8 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 33 | Annan | 4 | |
10 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 32 | Deveronvale | 4 | |
11 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 31 | Dundee | 4 | |
12 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 29 | Elgin City | 4 | |
12 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 29 | Falkirk | 4 | ||
14 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 27 | Inverness | 4 | ||
14 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 27 | Partick THistle | 4 | ||
16 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 26 | Ross County | 4 | |
16 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 26 | Cowdenbeath | 3 | ||
16 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 26 | East Stirlingshire | 3 | ||
19 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 25 | Forfar | 3 | |
19 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 25 | Livingston | 3 | ||
19 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 25 | Motherwell | 3 | ||
22 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 24 | Queens Park | 3 | ||
22 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 24 | St Johnstone | 3 | ||
24 | Ayr United | 5 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 23 | Arbroath | 2 | |||
24 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 23 | Hearts | 2 | ||
26 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 19 | |||||
27 | Dumbarton | 5 | 5 | 4 | 14 | |||||||
28 | Forfar | 4 | 5 | 3 | 12 | |||||||
29 | Dunfermline | 4 | 3 | 7 | ||||||||
30 | Albion | 3 | 3 | |||||||||
30 | Brechin City | 3 | 3 | |||||||||
6.16 | 3.36 | 5.00 | 5.29 | 4.19 | 3.61 | 3.88 |
Thanks to William at EDI who has pointed out an error I've made in the Round 7 results. I'll be posting a corrected version shortly
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 7 22/3/25:
EF(33) HIB(33) SRA(33)
BRE sends Mawuli Mensah (4/21 MF) to AI for 4 TP
LIV sends John Lennon (4/7 DF), Lewis Ferguson (4/16 MF) to AI for 3 TP
There were 25 entries for the "can't drop" round, and a couple of easy matches in there - home wins for Fraserburgh and Deveronvale both predicted by 96% of entrants, accounting for 72% of banker selection. The other matches were much trickier, with a couple of draws to make life difficult.
Three teams managed six points, so that's 33k each to Paul at East Fife, David at Hibs and Andrew at Stranraer.
Round 8 is next Saturday and I will be posting fixtures on the Notebook very soon.
Prediction | FRA v COW | PET v INV | MON v GM | ALO v AI | AYR v SM | ROS v KIL | EST v DFA | DEV v BER |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 96% | 48% | 28% | 56% | 32% | 48% | 72% | 96% |
Away | 0% | 28% | 68% | 24% | 56% | 40% | 24% | 0% |
Draw | 4% | 24% | 4% | 20% | 12% | 12% | 4% | 4% |
Banker Count | 12% | 0% | 8% | 4% | 8% | 0% | 4% | 60% |
Result | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 1 |
Special | ||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | Lge 41 | Round 7 Scores | |||||
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | R7 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 5 | 6 | 43 | East Fife | 6 | |
2 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 41 | Hibernian | 6 | |
3 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 38 | Stranraer | 6 | |
4 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 36 | Annan | 5 | |
4 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 36 | Ayr United | 5 | |
6 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 35 | Dundee | 5 | |
6 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 35 | Inverness | 5 | |
8 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 33 | Nairn | 5 | |
9 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 32 | Partick THistle | 5 | |
10 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 31 | Stenhousemuir | 5 | |
11 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 6 | 4 | 5 | 30 | Cowdenbeath | 4 | |
11 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 30 | East Stirlingshire | 4 | |
13 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 29 | Edinburgh | 4 | ||
14 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 28 | Motherwell | 4 | ||
15 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 27 | Ross County | 4 | |
15 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 27 | St Johnstone | 4 | ||
17 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 26 | Stirling | 4 | ||
17 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 26 | Deveronvale | 3 | ||
17 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 26 | Elgin City | 3 | ||
17 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 26 | Falkirk | 3 | ||
21 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 6 | 25 | Forfar | 3 | ||
22 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 24 | Hearts | 3 | |
22 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 24 | Livingston | 3 | ||
24 | Ayr United | 5 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 23 | Queens Park | 3 | |||
24 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 23 | Arbroath | 2 | ||
26 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 19 | |||||
27 | Dumbarton | 5 | 5 | 4 | 14 | |||||||
28 | Forfar | 4 | 5 | 3 | 12 | |||||||
29 | Dunfermline | 4 | 3 | 7 | ||||||||
30 | Albion | 3 | 3 | |||||||||
30 | Brechin City | 3 | 3 | |||||||||
6.16 | 3.36 | 5.00 | 5.29 | 4.19 | 3.61 | 4.08 |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 42:
Dundee FC - MVP #8: 25k (wDW)
Clydebank - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwD)
Elgin City - MVP #7: 25k (dWw)
Edinburgh City - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
If you ever feel hard done by, like I did today, then take a look at STI vs QP.
0.7 and 0.8 percent shot chance for QP, who were stalling, produced 3 shots and an offside.
9.5 and lower percent for STI did produce 7 shots but 3 of them went to their worst MF so they only got 4 on target.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 41:
Livingston - MVP #5: 25k (wwW)
Motherwell - MVP #6: 25k (WdW)
Dumbarton - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWW)
Albion Rovers - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
Partick Thistle - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Deveronvale - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
This is your final reminder, unless it posts twice. Only seven entries so far.
The following teams receive Physio Boost through :
AYR(-80) COW(-80)
Team | xP |
MOT | 56,0 |
ARB | 41,1 |
FRA | 39,4 |
CLY | 36,9 |
DEE | 30,5 |
COW | 30,3 |
STE | 30,2 |
DUM | 29,9 |
SRA | 29,6 |
LIV | 27,5 |
HAM | 27,3 |
RR | 26,9 |
HEA | 25,8 |
CB | 20,6 |
CEL | 16,0 |
STJ | 14,5 |
The boring table 1st.
Everybody's darling ARB gets 2 gifted wins and can't help rising to #2.
MOT still somewhere else, and after their recent signings, and without any cup diversions, they are bound to stay at #1 - at least here.
Team | Luck |
ARB | +12,9 |
HEA | +11,2 |
DEE | +5,5 |
STE | +4,8 |
STJ | +4,5 |
HAM | +3,7 |
LIV | +2,5 |
CLY | +1,1 |
FRA | -0,4 |
COW | -1,3 |
SRA | -1,6 |
RR | -2,9 |
DUM | -3,9 |
CEL | -5,0 |
CB | -5,6 |
MOT | -8,0 |
The more interesting table.
ARB and HEA still in a very tight race for the clever management award.
Everyone else within reasonable variance, everyone but MOT.
The important MOT-ARB luck gap has reached 20.9 LPs by now!
Add to this ARB's junk played advantages, and you almost can't help feeling pity with MOT.
That's a reminder
MOT sends 190k to STE for 2 TP
QP sends 60k to STE for Kenya (5/10 DF)
COW sends 30k to STE for Scott Robinson (5/8 DF)
2nd week I have gone for a side whose heart wasn't really in it - but on each occasion I managed to get back my stake money.
Sorry, John, but you didn't even get THAT back - but I will say no more than that.... :-)
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through Error in payout. Did not select winning team. :
DEE(-100)
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through 19th March QOS v DEV:
ALB(150) ANN(150) DEV(150) DEE(150) EF(150) EDI(150) ELG(150) FAL(150) FRA(100) HIB(50) INV(150) MOT(150) SRA(150)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 40:
Arbroath - MVP #7: 25k (wwW)
Thanks for clarifying David.
Waiting on windfall !
Although quite a spread of who is backing which team, and would need a 9 goal thriller if majority to win on anytime goalscorer bet.
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through 19th March QOS v DEV :
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) ARB(-50) COW(-50) DEV(-50) DEE(-50) DFA(-50) EF(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) FRA(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) INV(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) PT(-50) SRA(-50)
Entries now closed - Daniel (DFA) is the last entry (1-05pm GMT).
SRA sends 1 TP to RAN for 1 CP
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Mar 16th:
ALB(10) ALO(25) ARB(10) COV(15) DUM(10) DEE(50) EF(20) EST(10) EDI(20) FAL(25) FRA(20) HIB(50) LIV(20) MOT(50) PT(5) ROS(20) SRA(20)
I do believe Steve @ ALLOA used BC very positively not so long ago. It does require a tremendous midfield, and he did - even to the point that 1 x FW was sufficient in most games. There was another lad who used it too, with equal effect - both teams scored at will - one reason I never name any of my keepers Will. :-)
PS Still don't understand this "junk" league table or what it is about - but it's for the 1st division teams so I am guessing 32 of us aren't fussed about it either. So I agree with Eduard's (DEE) summing up of the situation..
Although i see a 1 match session (Raymond's Post) is available at +8EL. Can i have that over the 1 match session please.
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Thanks to those who have posted a reply to the magic sponge.
Can i have Marco Rus Magic Sponge for a 2 Match session please.
Thanks to those who have posted a reply to the magic sponge.
Can i have Marco Rus Magic Sponge for a 2 Match session please.
My long departed Grandfather always told me to judge a teams strength by who is on the bench not who is on the field........I think this was an SRA record in the Junk match against CEL!
BENCH
Ps Name SL A Gl Sh El
GK Krawl Ruthtowner 30 n 0 0 7
DF Magjust Lekburn 30 n 0 0 6
WG Ismaning Ghench 34 n 0 0 5
FW Xian Carbon 34 n 0 0 5
FW Mondo Polestar 30 n 0 0 5
I'm actually surprised that no one asked this question before.
As in real life, there are many kinds of junk, as ...
- any lineup with less than 50% of total SL, simply because you could have done better AND risk a blowout fine
- lineups between 50% and 60%, given certain junk factors (especially passive play and / or weak GK)
- any other lineup, which is obviously junk: given enough suspensions and injuries even a 100% lineup can be complete junk!
Shortly, anything I consider junk enough is considered junk.
Quite likely, almost everybody would consider some lineups junk I wouldn't and vice versa.
Do I care? Not at all.
Let's look at SRA-CEL.
Both teams at <49% total SL, so: junk vs junk.
SRA's lineup was obviously sufficient, and you did get 2.8 xP for the luck table, BUT this could have gone much differently if CEL had played differently.
SRA's attack line was certainly solid, but if you look e.g. at another junk lineup, DEE at FRA: a junk lineup can even consist of 4 29+ playe
The Clever Management and Junk stats are excellent. However, I don't understand how the following SRA team with this forward line got labelled as junk?
WG Ismaning 35 FW Xian Carbon 34 FW Mondo Polestar 30
....and not surprisingly we won?
Wednesday cup game
"1 game session also +8EL at 80k.
Manager must post on Blog his wish to use ‚ Pysio Boost‚ on 1 specified player BEFORE that weeks session kicks off"
Team Junk JDs
ARB 10 5
COW 7 4
LIV 6 5
HEA 6 5
STJ 6 5
SRA 6 2
CLY 5 2
DEE 5 1
FRA 5 0
MOT 4 1
STE 3 0
CEL 2 2
HAM 2 1
RR 2 0
CB 2 0
DUM 1 1
Two big winners this week, both scoring 2 junks against this week.
The obvious, ARB, seems to be everybody's darling by now, facing 30+% lineups twice.
About everyone throws his junk against them, allowing for some easy points - and maybe even an unexpectable championship.
The surprising, though, is CEL.
After 20 matches without seeing any junk against, they now play two of two.
The result is a meteoric rise up to #12 in the table.
For Ludvig Aberg
I have recently played two teams who have squads that are perfect for Ball Control. Given that DUM are always Early Cross - SPOILER - it seemed the obvious tactic to deploy against DUM. Those two teams have still played BC 0%.
Does anyone use this tactic anymore?
Yes Paul.
40k for a one match session and 80k for 2. Marcus Rus qualifies as he is under -8 EL. One match session for an extra 4 EL and two match session for an extra 8 EL.
Is the Magic Sponge still a thing? I have tried opening the rules but the page doesn't open. Does anyone have the details of the Magic Sponge?
.....I can't believe I've just put all the SRA funds into backing a team with no Goalie or Captain in the next round of the cup.......stupid is as stupid does......
π΅ I traded one CP for one TP, dee dee ran ran ran, dee dee ran ran.
DEE sends 1 TP to RAN for 1 CP
DEE sends 1 TP to RAN for 1 CP
Roll up, roll up.
β½οΈ
LIV sends 480k to ABE for 5 TP
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 39:
Fraserburgh - MVP #5: 25k (dWW)
Nairn County - MVP #4: 1 CP (WWw)
Stirling - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 38:
Clyde FC - MVP #4: 1 CP (wdW)
Elgin City - MVP #6: 25k (WDW)
I intend to stand down as manager of Cove Rangers at the end of the season, or earlier if a replacement can be found.
The next round of the Prediction League is due to take place this Wednesday but as Mark hasn't had a chance to post the fixtures yet, I have decided to delay the round until Saturday 22nd March.
The eight fixtures have been chosen at random, and can be seen on the Notebook.
As this round replaces the undroppable SESL Cup round, it will be undroppable, so your final score in the PL will be made up of this special round plus your best seven of the other nine rounds.
Hope this is clear, if not, please shout up.
NAI sends 1 TP to MOT for 100k
Bournemouth 2-1 Brentford
Arsenal 2-0 Chelsea
Everton 1-1 West Ham
Fulham 2-1 Tottenham
Ipswich Town 1-3 Nottingham Forest
Leicester City 1-2 Man United
Man City 2-1 Brighton
Southampton 1-1 Wolves
Liverpool 1-2 Newcastle
EDI sends 1 CP to DEE for 15k, 1 TP
The HFA didn't have much relevance for the match outcome: 4.1-1.6 neutral pitch turned into 4.6-1.3, both well into 90%+ territory for FRA.
Assuming, of course, that FRA's 2nd half Stall was conditional on a 2 goal lead.
COV were - as mentioned already - somewhat lucky in the shot allocation numbers, but had no serious chance of winning.
Nonetheless, COV were robbed of some small % chances to go further. So I'd suggest some compensation money, maybe 100k.
The hilarious suspensions by ref Atie are a nice joke only.
Especially given that one is a "free" suspension and COV loses effectively only 2 match-ELs, I don't think they have to be handled manually.
If COV gets compensated in cash, we should just keep the suspensions - to avoid unnecessary issues for little gain.
That is hilarious that FRA reffed the controversial match today.
I agree with Steve T to scrub the COV yellow cards handed out by that corrupt ref today π
The fact that Alon Atie reffed the game and was the manager of FRA is I think as a good reason as any for Cov yellow cards to be rescinded.
Did Rangers just get liquidated today?
Can we set up a go fund me page or buy a brick campaign!
MOT sends 90k to FRA for 1 TP
I'm not sure the home advantage did a lot (might work it out later if no one else does). 15 more OFF is a 6% increase and 15 DEF about a 15% increase. But COV got more shots than expected anyway. Alon stalled at half time due to the score and his side was much better so likely to win anyway.
But what I think should happen is a manual reset on the yellow cards if possible. Two COV players were booked and both are now suspended and it was a Homer ref. There's no way to know if they would have been booked anyway but it's possible.
Team | xP |
MOT | 50,4 |
ARB | 35,5 |
FRA | 34,6 |
CLY | 33,7 |
COW | 29,5 |
DEE | 29,2 |
DUM | 27,8 |
STE | 26,7 |
SRA | 26,1 |
RR | 26,1 |
LIV | 25,4 |
HAM | 22,5 |
HEA | 22,3 |
CB | 19,8 |
CEL | 15,8 |
STJ | 12,4 |
ARB regain #2, but it's still rather tight between #2 and #12.
Much more interesting ...
Team | Luck |
HEA | +13,7 |
ARB | +12,5 |
DEE | +5,8 |
STE | +5,3 |
STJ | +3,6 |
HAM | +2,5 |
LIV | +1,6 |
FRA | +0,4 |
CLY | +0,3 |
SRA | -1,1 |
COW | -1,5 |
RR | -2,1 |
DUM | -4,8 |
CB | -5,8 |
CEL | -5,8 |
MOT | -6,4 |
Now there's an interesting championship race - between ARB and HEA.
ARB's success here - and in the junk ranking - has even made MOT dropping the SESL cup, to have a chance at the Championship.
Nonetheless 18.9 luck difference is quite hard to overcome.
HEA though are still leaders. And deservedly so, after winning another hopeless 0.1 match vs FRA.
Team | Junk | JDs |
ARB | 8 | 4 |
COW | 6 | 3 |
LIV | 5 | 4 |
HEA | 5 | 4 |
STJ | 5 | 4 |
DEE | 5 | 1 |
SRA | 5 | 1 |
CLY | 4 | 2 |
MOT | 3 | 1 |
FRA | 3 | 0 |
HAM | 2 | 1 |
STE | 2 | 0 |
RR | 2 | 0 |
CB | 2 | 0 |
DUM | 1 | 1 |
CEL | 0 | 0 |
ARB and SRA are the big winners this week, with 2/1 each.
ARB are now the big favorites for the Clever Management Trophy, and their success here might even be quite instrumental in their success elsewhere.
Poor CEL still wait for their 1st junk opponent: 20 matches and no junk against.
Bournemouth 3-2 Brentford
Arsenal 2-1 Chelsea
Everton 1-2 West Ham
Fulham 1-1 Tottenham
Ipswich Town 1-3 Nottingham Forest
Leicester City 1-1 Man. United
Man. City 3-1 Brighton
Southampton 1-2 Wolves
Liverpool (concentrating on the league) 2-1 Newcastle
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Brentford
Arsenal 1 - 1 Chelsea
Everton 2 - 1 West Ham
Fulham 1 - 2 Tottenham
Ipswich Town 0 - 3 Nottingham Forest
Leicester City 0 - 2 Man. United
Man. City 1 - 1 Brighton
Southampton 1 - 1 Wolves
Liverpool 2-2 Newcastle
Bournemouth 3-2 Brentford
Arsenal 2-2 Chelsea
Everton 1-2 West Ham
Fulham 1-3 Tottenham
Ipswich Town 3-3 Nottingham Forest
Leicester City 0-2 Man. United
Man. City 3-1 Brighton
Southampton 1-2 Wolves
Liverpool 2-1 Newcastle
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through 12th March Rangers v Hearts:
ALB(150) ANN(150) DEV(150) DUM(150) DEE(50) EF(150) EDI(150) ELG(150) FAL(150) FRA(150) HIB(50) MOT(150) SRA(150)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 37:
Arbroath - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Falkirk - MVP #3: 1 TP (WWW)
Only 8 league games because of the Caraboa cup final
I have added the caraboa cup final as a 9th game.
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Brentford
Arsenal 2 - 0 Chelsea
Everton 2 - 1 West Ham
Fulham 2 - 1 Tottenham
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Leicester City 1 - 2 Man. United
Man. City 2 - 0 Brighton
Southampton 1 - 2 Wolves
Liverpool 2-1 Newcastle
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through 12th March:
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) ARB(-50) DEV(-50) DUM(-50) DEE(-50) DFA(-50) EF(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) FRA(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) SRA(-50)
Sounds like a manual scheduling blip.
Maybe too close to deadline to resolve today.
Hopefully COV now win so it's not a big issue. Otherwise compensation of gate receipts paid again to COV to cover loss of match revenue of a possible cup match COV never had equal chance to progress?
...are all at neutral venues, except for one.
Some mistake surely?
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Mar 9th:
ALB(10) ALO(10) DEV(20) DUM(25) DEE(50) EF(45) EST(10) EDI(20) HAM(10) HIB(45) LIV(25) MOT(20) NAI(15) ROS(20) SM(10) STE(10) SRA(10)
LIV sends 200k to ARB for 2 TP
Easy money.... or is RAN v HEA too close to gamble?
SM sends 200k, 1 CP to EDI for Owen Beck (4/17 DF)
Inspired by Matt, I tried Tripe for Tea but I just couldn't stomach it......
Matt, you could always try writing something intelligent.
Or perhaps not....
I know what your offering to mean Tyron. I only need 10k in party bonus then I can stop writing tripe for the rest of the season!
EST will go for whatever earns us 5K in party bonus...
Great work with that Sponge!
Can we go again please - Physio Boost for Ireland.
Thanks
Sorry, LMS posts to wrong game....but still expecting a massive Party Bonus, of course....
Wrong league Paul. I've done that many a time
All four of you managed to survive week two, so on we go. There are only eight fixtures next weekend butas you still have plenty of choice, we'll press on, especially as there's a two-week international break coming up.
The deadline is next Saturday at 15:00. Need I mention Southampton?
TEAM | Manager | Week 1 | Week 2 |
---|---|---|---|
ACS | Turner | Newcastle | C.Palace |
AFC | Permentier | Spurs | Brighton |
ORA | Gavino | Spurs | Chelsea |
SFR | D.Fitzgerald | Brighton | Liverpool |
BIB | Bijker | Arsenal | OUT |
CAM (I,V) | Cooper | Arsenal | OUT |
CN | Barnard | Arsenal | OUT |
CPT | Legowski | So'ton | OUT |
DB (VI) | Cockayne | Arsenal | OUT |
DUB | Burnett | Fulham | OUT |
FCB (IV) | J.Fitzgerald | So'ton | OUT |
GCK | Campbell | So'ton | OUT |
GD | Creasey | So'ton | OUT |
HLR | M.White | So'ton | OUT |
ITP (II) | Williams | So'ton | OUT |
LBC | Oakes | B'mouth | OUT |
LD | Rolsten | Everton | OUT |
MM | G.Scott | So'ton | OUT |
MT | Krosnyak | Arsenal | OUT |
NHL | Lithgo | So'ton | OUT |
NJN | J.White | Arsenal | OUT |
OPT (VIII) | C.Scott | Arsenal | OUT |
PEX | Hernandez | So'ton | OUT |
PNE | Gregory | B'mouth | OUT |
SXS | Purvis | So'ton | OUT |
TNS | Lye | B'mouth | OUT |
WBB | Hull | So'ton | OUT |
YFC | Shaw | Arsenal | OUT |
Saturday 15 March
15:00 Everton v West Ham
Ipswich v Nottingham Forest
Man City v Brighton
Southampton v Wolves
17:30 AFC Bournemouth v Brentford
Sunday 16 March
13:30 Arsenal v Chelsea
13:30 Fulham v Spurs
19:00 Leicester v Man Utd
All four of you managed to survive week two, so on we go. There are only eight fixtures next weekend butas you still have plenty of choice, we'll press on, especially as there's a two-week international break coming up.
The deadline is next Saturday at 15:00. Need I mention Southampton?
TEAM | Manager | Week 1 | Week 2 |
---|---|---|---|
ACS | Turner | Newcastle | C.Palace |
AFC | Permentier | Spurs | Brighton |
ORA | Gavino | Spurs | Chelsea |
SFR | D.Fitzgerald | Brighton | Liverpool |
BIB | Bijker | Arsenal | OUT |
CAM (I,V) | Cooper | Arsenal | OUT |
CN | Barnard | Arsenal | OUT |
CPT | Legowski | So'ton | OUT |
DB (VI) | Cockayne | Arsenal | OUT |
DUB | Burnett | Fulham | OUT |
FCB (IV) | J.Fitzgerald | So'ton | OUT |
GCK | Campbell | So'ton | OUT |
GD | Creasey | So'ton | OUT |
HLR | M.White | So'ton | OUT |
ITP (II) | Williams | So'ton | OUT |
LBC | Oakes | B'mouth | OUT |
LD | Rolsten | Everton | OUT |
MM | G.Scott | So'ton | OUT |
MT | Krosnyak | Arsenal | OUT |
NHL | Lithgo | So'ton | OUT |
NJN | J.White | Arsenal | OUT |
OPT (VIII) | C.Scott | Arsenal | OUT |
PEX | Hernandez | So'ton | OUT |
PNE | Gregory | B'mouth | OUT |
SXS | Purvis | So'ton | OUT |
TNS | Lye | B'mouth | OUT |
WBB | Hull | So'ton | OUT |
YFC | Shaw | Arsenal | OUT |
Saturday 15 March
15:00 Everton v West Ham
Ipswich v Nottingham Forest
Man City v Brighton
Southampton v Wolves
17:30 AFC Bournemouth v Brentford
Sunday 16 March
13:30 Arsenal v Chelsea
13:30 Fulham v Spurs
19:00 Leicester v Man Utd
NAI sends Jack Walker (1/22 DF) to ELG for Ross Draper (0/16 DF)
i'm happy for any criticism on this one. I offered it out of the blue to Jason so all on me if the suggestion that the 6SL difference is somewhat too onesided? Don't think there been any deals this season that require any justification but im happy to provide mine if anyone is questioning this one.
FRA sends 290k to QP for 3 TP
I deal that is not one of mine getting questioned.
better do a deal quick.
120k for a 1/10 DF :-p
CB sends 120k to LIV for Willie Miller (1/10 DF)
I could've just as easily said nothing at all, but this + my previous blog will most likely secure sponsorship success, so..well...yeah... π
on my hands right now trying not to make a comment on the peeps not making a comment.
On the trade however. Fair deal if you ask me.
An 1/14 with 8 tp against a 0/5 with 9 tp
I know which one I would rather have on my team next season π
FRA sends 195k to LIV for 2 TP
RAN sends 195k to LIV for 2 TP
Official notification that DUM shall be making no comment whatsoever on LIV not making a comment.
Not a peep.
Nada.
Zilch.
Official notification that LIV shall be making no comment whatsoever on any trades today.
Not a peep.
Nada.
Zilch.
NAI sends Jack Walker (1/22 DF) to ELG for Ross Draper (0/16 DF)
The following teams receive Physio Boost through DF Ireland:
STE(-80)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 36:
Dundee FC - MVP #7: 25k (WdW)
Peterhead - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWd)
Montrose - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWD)
Deveronvale - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 35:
Livingston - MVP #4: 1 CP (WdW)
Motherwell - MVP #5: 25k (WDw)
Annan Athletic - MVP #5: 25k (wWW)
Inverness - MVP #4: 1 CP (DwW)
Ayr United - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwD)
Ross County - MVP #3: 1 TP (Wwd)
I am sorely tempted by the opportunity to pay 101k for an 8/1 winger, but so far have somehow managed to resist temptation.
I like a sense of humour like the next man, but thinking DUM and SRA are definitely having a laugh with the players they have put up for sale. To be fair John @ LIV has a few lads he wants to offload but at least they are at reasonable prices.
However if the bottom line is to put some ooomph into the transaction page, they have done it. Just don't think there will be too many takers - unless some clubs are getting close to the Robin Hood Rule that is... :-)
........can you put down SRA for Hamilton and Cobden please?
No reasonable offer rejected.
Good work Ed.
You are a credit to Sesl with your stats.
I'll settle for mid table this season for all stats and standings. Then push on next season.
Team | xP |
MOT | 45,6 |
FRA | 31,7 |
ARB | 31,5 |
CLY | 28,9 |
DEE | 26,5 |
COW | 26,0 |
DUM | 24,9 |
STE | 24,8 |
SRA | 23,2 |
RR | 23,2 |
LIV | 22,5 |
HEA | 22,1 |
HAM | 19,3 |
CB | 18,5 |
CEL | 14,5 |
STJ |
10,5 |
BOOORING.
MOT are somewhere far beyond. Us mortals are somewhere else.
Many thanks to the balancing rolls.
Speaking of ...
Team | Luck |
HEA | +10,9 |
ARB | +10,5 |
STE | +6,2 |
DEE | +4,5 |
STJ | +3,5 |
FRA | +3,3 |
HAM | +2,7 |
LIV | +1,5 |
CLY | +1,1 |
COW | -1,0 |
SRA | -1,2 |
RR | -2,2 |
MOT | -4,6 |
DUM | -4,9 |
CB | -5,5 |
CEL | -7,5 |
Much more action in this table.
HEA strikes back - mainly thanks to a spectacular win at RR.
ARB stays within a single match roll.
CEL remains the only really unlucky team.
The rest is within normal distribution range.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Mar 2nd:
ALB(10) ARB(35) DEV(50) DUM(50) DEE(20) EF(50) EDI(30) FAL(15) FRA(15) HEA(40) HIB(25) LIV(50) PT(25) RR(30) ROS(25) SM(35) SRA(25)
MOT sends 115k to HIB for 1 CP
MOT sends 115k to ANN for 1 CP
Team | Junk | JDs |
ARB | 6 | 3 |
COW | 6 | 3 |
LIV | 5 | 4 |
HEA | 5 | 4 |
STJ | 5 | 4 |
DEE | 5 | 1 |
MOT | 3 | 1 |
CLY | 3 | 1 |
FRA | 3 | 0 |
SRA | 3 | 0 |
RR | 2 | 0 |
CB | 2 | 0 |
DUM | 1 | 1 |
STE | 1 | 0 |
HAM | 1 | 0 |
CEL | 0 | 0 |
Still quite unremarkable results.
Rather low numbers of junk lineups, and no clearly favored clever manager in sight.
6 teams within reach of the top - remarkably not MOT yet.
DEV sends 220k to HIB for 2 CP
Is there any way of checking what bids we actually submitted?
Auction 8 Lot 10 It shows we bid 0 for 8 CP (as did Stenny!) - However I was fairly sure I'd made a fairly decent bid knowing that we were fairly comfortable for cash... even after picking up a couple of experienced players to bolster the squad
PET sends 100k to SRA for 1 TP
PET sends 100k to COW for 1 TP
FRA sends 100k to CLY for 1 TP
I really enjoyed the chain of messages below. Its great to see people give a crap about the game, its why its still going strong all these years later.
Have opinions, share opinions, nothing is personal for me here. Except ALB, they are a stain on a great game
You are not wrong there, Ricky - looks a bad one and he's going to need a few of them. Remember, he still gets paid if he's off. Wait - we don't have wages in this game - players play for the love of the game - bit like the managers in most cases.. it's a fun game.. π ππππ
Can we send the Physio roound to 'Ireland's house please? He needs the magic sponge...
Happens in every game I play. If the 2 people making the trade are happy. Everyone else should just leave alone.
Absolutely Dave.
I don't much go for what gets paid at auction. You can throw in a cheeky bid and win a lot for 1k. So what you bid is not necessarily what you would value the player. You might have to bid a lot higher than you want to get the deal done but you might also get lucky.
You pays yer money, you take yer chance.
These are great blogs. And I think its light hearted.
It's all about opinions. Not right or wrong.
Average valid bids on the 4/25 DM today at auction was 385k (5396 / 14 teams)
As Colin quite rightly said "Some folk think a 4/25 is worth something"
when he copy paste selected auction bids from today, but skipped over the 101k auction bid by SM today.....
Come on come on. You have got to afford a smile at how ironic that is to this fun debate.
"I wonder if anyone selling this free TP that's been mentioned"
yes, it's all around you.
Fact is that you are given 40tp for free every season.
It only gets value when you have too much or too less. Otherwise it is truly FREE TP ;)
Lovely point made there Matthew!
Proves my point that everyone seems to have an opinion on anything these days, but don't even care if it's valid, legit or even thought through.
No Trump dictatorship here, but please don't let SESL become a copy of the dreaded social media and so called copy/paste news websites either!
Think first, check if what you think is actually worth blogging about, then post but please consider if the readers or subjects in your post want to read it. Are you just blogging for the party monies, blog about the weather ;-)
Over the years SESL has proven that valuations for players are as different as night and day depending on which light you are shining on it.
In this case, Colin made a really good point! SM had way too many players that need full training next season, but not nearly enough funds to make that happen. So, in this case, SM get a needed captain for next season, without losing any SL right now plus funds to at least train some of the players he has left now.
The real waste would be seeing a 2/23DM not getting any CP at all next season.
And, if a 1/25DM is not being picked up for the 2000k that he's worth accoding to some? Is he really worth it then? If you NEED to sell, you are doomed to go with best offer you're gonna get. And that is the value of a player in a nutshell init?
So, please, do your due diligence to check your brainfarts, as sometimes it's nothing more then just gas.
Again, no offence to anyone! I just side with Matthew who spoke up for himself on a matter that took a bit of the fun out of this game for me a long time ago.
It is a big number. 50 is bigger but not exactly how many TPs SM have used this season, but let us, for fun, use that number.
A few ways of looking at that.
Let us say 50 TP used over 25 matches. 2 per match is 625k in TP costs. In negotiations, you are going to charge me 225k to train one guys. Is that right? Plus another 225k from last season. Is that how you arrive at 450k.
Even if those figures are correct, I would rather divide 625k by 5. Each age one player takes a share. 125k.
Or are you asking me to pay for TP that you used on your other players? Why should the extra TP used even be included in the deal in the first place. Why?
The reality is that SM did not have as many as 50 TP and you can check their accounts to find the correct value of the cost of using extra TP but that would not fit the narrative.
TP value. It is free. What you trade it for is up to you. Someone on the trade section just now willing to pay 80k for TP. Same person asking 120k for CP.
In negotiations you can say and claim what you want but that does not make it Gospel.
As for the Auction,
LOT 2: 4/25 DM | |||
TEAM | ORIGINAL BID | REVISED BID | COMMENT |
Hamilton Accies | 917 | 801 | WINNER! |
Arbroath | 800 | 800 | |
Motherwell | 799 | 799 |
Some folk think a 4/25 is worth something - even at this stage in the season. So more than the 400k previously quoted.
4/26 - 800k (auction value) + 600k (hard cash) + one extra SL for remainder of the season + Captain Next Season = 1400k+ (Captain value, I think is 200k+, but what do I know)
1/16 - 650k (book price) + 900k (TP value (lol)) = 1550k ( I am not pay you to train your players)
My first post was to congratulate Matt and I stick by that - great bit of business.
Now add in that SM will not have enough CP to coach 5 age 2 players next season - clever trading.
Then someone mentions trading a 1/25 for a 0/10 - SM have NO TP so that player would be 1/10 next season. Value that! :-))))
ARB boss was BACKING you Matt. He said "I'll make you an offer. But I'd rather you don't accept for the sake of SM promotion."
ARB boss followed up by noting how much you had invested in your age 1 with figures (that I haven't fact checked). But he was defending you.
Again. ARB boss was BACKING you and on your side with his most recent blog.
ARB recently traded some TP to you to help.
I notice DEE also sold you some TP.
(Don't tell Colin though, as he thinks TP is not worth 100k and thinks TP is free).
Great too see you back posting in Sesl Matt.
Just smile at the fuss this has caused :-)
SM are 1 skill level better off with 26 rather than 25 SL.
I think other teams may have paid twice the money you got. But it doesn't matter if you are happy.
The deal below was rejected by St Mirren but was what Cameron offered for the player
ARB sends 800k, Alabama (4/16 DF) to SM for Marcus North (1/25 DF) | REJECTED |
The final deal accepted was 200k less but 10 skill levels higher.
how can he now say deal accepted was wrong.
What difference is one.
lot 7. 0/10 MF Sean Bowen DUM 975 k lot 8. 0/ 9 MF Jimmy Bland LIV 422 k
I wonder if anyone selling this free TP that's been mentioned.
One game - picked at random
John McGinn (SM) played 45 minutes and earned a CP. Marcus North (SM) played 90 minutes and earned a TP. Cameron Archer (SM) played 90 minutes and earned a TP. Billy Gilmour (FAL) played 90 minutes and earned a TP.
Marcus North, first on the list = free slot
Cameron Archer, 2nd on the list = 25k
The word might is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. :-)
You can look at the trade any way you like and come up with your own assumptions - such as, the age 1 player has the potential to be a top player. Then you look further and realise that SM have another 4 age 1 players. 5 age 2 players next season. All requiring CP. Hmmm...
Better to offload one just now - and have more SL in the team now - and have a Captain for next season.
100k for TP? It's free
SM seems to have used no TP after their 21st match of this season.
50TP appears to be spent on five age 1 players in first half of season.
So about half of that 50 TP might have cost 25k extra.
Unless you can prove SM have played 50 matches so far this season Colin.
Tongue firmly in cheek.
But proof is there.
While the age 4 has had 1 resource used all season. Without proof, lets assume that 1CP was at an extra cost of 25k for comparison purposes.
Good lively debate though.
Blogs below prove that Colin π
You see, someone brings in their workings - I like - and now we can see where there are assumptions and missing data.
Prove it cost to add TP. After all, one free in every match.
Prove it did not cost DEE to add a ton of CP and TP to their guy. If you are going to use cost of adding TP and CP then the age 4 guys is beyond anyone's budget. π
SM do not have any decent age 4 players in the squad just now so this guy will be a very useful Captain next season. Where is that calculation?
What is the difference between someone training up a GK in Div 3 for half a seadon before selling and someone doing the same but with a DF over 1.5 seasons?
There was also mention of promotion. The basic maths are there. SL 25 is less than SL 26 so the age 4 will be better if SM want to push for promotion.
I checked the stats and Matt White has over 1000 matches in SESL. Perhaps the new guys should be asking him for tips.
18 x 100k trade value of a TP is 1800k.
Plus apprentice 200k cost.
Maybe 18 x 25k extra TP slots? Possibly 450k.
Plus the grief of playing a SL5, 6, 7, 8 in early stages.
I raised eye brow as it was the same two teams trading that last season had caused a big stir over a trade.
Other managers shouldn't moan at a trade- but people are allowed opinions- unless we are in a Trump dictorship now.
Please don't quit Matt.
SM are poised for promotion. You've built great players this season.
If you do quit, then I'd say reverse the trade as clearly the valations are way out, so unfair on incoming SM manager.
An age 4 player with less than half the season to go until an age 5 maybe worth 400k at this point in a season? Plus 600k cash.
0/10 auction players may go for 1000k.
Hands up who will trade a 0/10 for a 1/25 multipostional thinking they both worth about 1,000k. Hands up.
Again, which way are you looking at this...
SM bring in an age 0 for 200k and use 18 TP over two seasons to get him to 1/25. The TP is free so total outlay is 200k.
If you really think this trade is skewed or one-sided then show your workings.
Good deal Matt - well done!
Tbh it's none of any of our business to question the integrity of a trade. The league has lads to ask, deliberate, etc and that is usually to protect a newbie, and they will ask the relevant managers what their motives were. If satisfied they will agree and both managers get what they wanted. This one was only slightly skewed on the value side but not seriously.
On occasions I've had "suggestions" as to what tactic I should have put in etc but I pay no attention to them - any more than they would pay attention to a suggestion of mine. Hot air!!
other managers not just commenting but actually condemning a trade has to be linked to the modern curse of people assuming they can say what they like with no comeback. These comments can hurt and I've full support for the Saints lad.
You will have had adequate reasons for accepting the offer and I've no qualms about that. Good luck and I'd ask you reconsider your decision ( I just wish I'd enough in the coffers to have made you an offer..π°π°).
I feel you mate!
Seems like whatever trade you make there's always going to be someone that has something to say about it. It's one of the reasons why I'm not so involved with the transfer game anymore. In the end it should all come down to the value YOU put on a player!
Let others talk mate! Just play your game!
If a trade seriously hurts a rookie player it's good to have people monitoring, but when it involves experienced players we all should trust that the manager knows what he's doing and realise not everyone likes to be the subject of your brainfart.
No disrespect intended!
At first glance the trade may look slightly odd but when looking deeper at the SM squad it appears to me at least that the trade made a lot of sense with a view to the number of good age 1 and age 2 players that Matthew will want to coach up NEXT season. Prior to that trade...SM were never going to have enough money in the bank for the nect pre-season and would have never been able to purchase enough CPs to coach that group of players as i'm sure Matthew would wish to. The 600k will certainly help there and the DM that also joined SM will certainly help the team in the remainder of this season so therefore not harming the promotion chances either.
I understand how Matthew feels re the opinions of others but it seems part and parcel of the game these days and also in life in general and not a personal attack in any way so PLEASE reconsider your decision Matthew.
I have had enough of every trade I do being questioned so I am leaving the game as of now.
I have enjoyed playing the game but to many other manager just want to have there say on what others do.
This trade will not stop St Mirren getting promoted but the cash could help them next season to improve the players they have left.
But hay what the xxxx not going to be my problem.
Hope now all trades will be acceptable to those managers who are unhappy with what I have done.
DEE sends 600k, Malachi Boateng (4/26 DM) to SM for Marcus North (1/25 DF)
Need a valuation price guide.
Regardless, it's madness SM selling a prized asset. A sale could cost SM promotion.
Seems a sale for a sake of a sale.
Can someone make sense to me?
I'll make you an offer. But I'd rather you don't accept for the sake of SM promotion.
St Mirren still have a 1 / 25 up for sale.
Will take a replacement player older ok with some cash to make up difference.
quick deal needed.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 34:
Arbroath - MVP #5: 25k (wWD)
Falkirk - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWW)
Queens Park - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Round 6 1st March 2025:
DEE(100)
A very tough round, with the three draws almost impossible to predict, wiping out most of the banker selections along the way.
The average score of 3.61 tells its own tale, but congratulations to Eduard who picks up 100k for getting six points, and bringing Dundee up to one point behind East Fife in the process.
The next round will be on Wednesday March 19th, it's the undroppable SESL Cup last 16 round. I will post the entry form as soon as I can after the last 32 round on March 12th.
Prediction | AYR v COV | DFA v BER | EDI v DEV | FAL v DUU | KIL v EST | QP v FOR | SM v PT | STI v ROS |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 91% | 100% | 43% | 61% | 70% | 61% | 96% | 39% |
Away | 9% | 0% | 26% | 30% | 22% | 26% | 4% | 52% |
Draw | 0% | 0% | 30% | 9% | 9% | 13% | 0% | 9% |
Banker Count | 35% | 30% | 4% | 9% | 9% | 0% | 9% | 4% |
Result | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | D3 33 | Round 6 Scores | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | R6 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 5 | 37 | Dundee | 6 | |
2 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 6 | 36 | East Fife | 5 | |
3 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 4 | 34 | Falkirk | 5 | |
4 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 5 | 4 | 32 | Annan | 4 | |
4 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 32 | Arbroath | 4 | |
6 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 | 31 | Ayr United | 4 | |
6 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 31 | Cowdenbeath | 4 | |
8 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 4 | 30 | Dumbarton | 4 | |
9 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 4 | 27 | East Stirlingshire | 4 | |
9 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 5 | 27 | Edinburgh | 4 | |
9 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 27 | Hearts | 4 | |
12 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 26 | Motherwell | 4 | ||
13 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 6 | 4 | 25 | Partick Thistle | 4 | |
14 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 24 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | |
14 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 24 | Stirling | 4 | |
16 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 23 | Elgin City | 3 | ||
16 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 23 | Nairn | 3 | ||
16 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 23 | Queen of the South | 3 | ||
16 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 23 | Deveronvale | 2 | ||
20 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 21 | Hibernian | 2 | |
20 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 21 | Livingston | 2 | ||
22 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 2 | 20 | Ross County | 2 | ||
23 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 19 | Stranraer | 2 | ||
23 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 19 | ||||
23 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 19 | ||||
26 | Ayr United | 5 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 18 | |||||
27 | Dumbarton | 5 | 5 | 4 | 14 | ||||||
28 | Forfar | 4 | 5 | 9 | |||||||
29 | Dunfermline | 4 | 3 | 7 | |||||||
30 | Albion | 3 | 3 | ||||||||
30 | Brechin City | 3 | 3 | ||||||||
6.16 | 3.36 | 5.00 | 5.29 | 4.19 | 3.61 |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 33:
Cowdenbeath - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Dundee FC - MVP #6: 25k (wDW)
East Fife - MVP #3: 1 TP (WWD)
Brechin City - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Edinburgh City - MVP #5: 25k (WWd)
Kilmarnock - MVP #4: 1 CP (WWW)
Age 1 SL 15 or 16 have auctioned around 600k on average recently. Multipositional adds 20% at a guess.
You'd have spent 10TP on player, and highly likely 10 x 25k extra TP slots.
Wild guess 2,000k value. Sounds crazy, but he a ready made superstar for THIS season and next 3 seasons too.
What is a ball park valuation of a 1/25 MA with half the season left?
PET sends 100k to CLY for 1 TP
...and only 7 entires so far...
PET sends 100k to HIB for 1 TP
The goods news is that the Blues came through the Group stages unbeaten and won their Group B fairly easily. Despite resting up in the final game it was a relatively safe passage to the Knockout phase. It was with dismay that SRA learnt that as Group winners (B1) they will play the lowly G4 in the first round proper. This unfortunately turns out to be league leaders Motherwell!! What is the point in busting the team to win a group when you get tough opposition as a reward? The Boss will of course be pulling out all the stops and sharpening the boots for this clash! Better to knockout the giants early!
I notice HAM traded in even more money this evening.
What is the earliest point in a season that Robin Hood has nabbed excess cash from a team?
Djeez.
Note to self: don't journal on your phone while watching a game on the tellie.
Don't forget!
SRA sends 300k to HAM for 3 TP
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Feb 23rd:
ARB(20) COW(15) DUM(20) DEE(50) EF(50) EDI(30) FAL(25) FRA(10) HIB(25) LIV(10) MOT(50) PT(20) QOS(10) SRA(10)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 32:
Ross County - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Fraserburgh - MVP #4: 1 CP (wdW)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Motherwell - MVP #4: 1 CP (dWW)
Elgin City - MVP #5: 25k (WWd)
I understand your pain David.
My phone prompts me to reload my last blog each time I return to sesl website. I just select 'no' and navigate back to Web site ok.
Maybe ipad is same for other managers as also an Apple product?
Laptop I do not experience this re-submit or reload duplicate message thankfully.
It seems when I go back into my iPhone it seems to want to repeat the message- not deliberate I assure you. ππ€
ALB sends 15k, 1 TP to EDI for 1 CP
Physio has came to pass now it seems. You can stand down David.
Recent Entries
Physio Boost - 2/24
Physio Boost - 2/23
Physio Boost - 2/22
Hibs request a boost for Christian Doidge, please.
Thanks.
The following teams receive Physio Boost through :
HIB(-80) PT(-80)
RAN sends 181k to DEV for 2 TP
Andrew McCumiskey 7.5
Alon Atie 7.0
Paul Cockyne 6.5
Andy Shaw 5.5
Andrew Foss-Grant 3.0
Tight at the top ,but well done Andrew.
We wont be predicting GW26 as the turnaround is too tight with it being a midweek gameweek.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 31:
Stranraer - MVP #4: 1 CP (DWw)
Raith Rovers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Wwd)
Queen of the South - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Www)
Dunfermline Athletic - MVP #3: 1 TP (wDW)
Queens Park - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Wdw)
Clyde FC - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
It seems to me PT are having a season of training up age 0 GK to sell on and, given their league position, I was wondering, why waste cash on Physio Boost. Four GKs in the squad, including two who are not going anywhere for at least 10 matches. With -15 EL, the guy will not be fit for either of the upcoming Cup games with or without the Boost. Why bother.
Interesting...
Thanks for the nudge James.
line-up going in now.
In fact, I'll do 2 lineups to cover Wednesday in advance also.
It is really easy to do two lineups at once and manage/guess EL.
The schedule has been in place, but I am conditioned after so many seasons to Saturday and occasionally Wednesday. This new, relatively, faster pace still catches me out.
And, with 46 minutes to Kick Off, there are 15 teams without a line-up submitted so I am not alone!
The business profits were hit though by the number of locks required for his attic.
Fair comment James, but schedule been in place a couple of weeks or so.
I'd play a cup game every other day or so, to get thru the 5 group matches.
Monday Wednesday Friday Monday Wednesday
Decent patter Andrew.
......started such a trend that I started a successful boat building business in the attic of my house. Sails are going through the roof!
I remember a time when the SESL Cup group stage was played over 5 days, 1 day for each game on Wednesday and Saturday. It was I found a welcome slow down in pace to refresh the batteries. Now we have 5 games in 7 days, and they always (almost this year) catch me out. So perhaps I am becoming an old curmudgeon but I miss the old slower days.
Although as I am now taken to enjoying Canal Boat Diaries on Yesterday maybe I should inject some energy back into life!
HIB sends 1 TP to RAN for 90k
PT request a boost for GK Myles Roberts
Hibs request a boost for Christian Doidge, please.
Thanks.
Cup group scheduled matches 4 and 5 are approaching fast.
Monday match may catch a few out not paying attention.
I didn't think for a moment you were blaming me for anything. I fully understood your original point. Valid question.
If my first message wasn't clear, I'm not trying to blame you for anything. I'm just trying to remind managers that they are passing up a lot of free cash by skipping the retirement window if they are interested in opening up roster slots.
...and the entry form is on the Notebook
Player Value?
Focusing on the Retirement Price is fine, if you plan to use that method, but if you have a big a squad and want to bring in a player or two via trade or auction then you will have to retire one or two players for 0k. So what is the value of such a player?
I deliberately looked for teams with a large squad who 'might' find themselves in this situation.
Personally, I was willing to pay more than 0k, and I think I was rather generous.
After Wednesday their value dropped significantly. The next time they can be traded in they will be a 5/5 and 6/5 and the next time they can be traded in with no apprentice it would be 5/4 and 6/3. That's a drop to 60k/50k or 48k/30k.
Clever bit of trading by DUM.
If a 1,200k player traded for 100k would the same percentage difference cause a riot compared to 10k for 120k value?
Maybe QOS and BER should blog what their thinking was with these trades so the transactions are not reversed?
Not criticizing, but I do wonder why a couple managers are selling players for 10k that they could have retired for 120k and 96k three days ago on Wednesday. They're not good enough players that this feels like a big steal for DUM, but that is a lot for missed cash for QOS and BER. Again, not crying foul, just may be worth bookmarking the second retirement window for next season
DUM sends 10k to QOS for No Salad (4/8 FW)
DUM sends 10k to BER for M_Yardley (5/8 FW)
PT sends 25k to SM for Will Fish (6/3 DF)
Hibs request a boost for Christian Doidge, please.
Thanks.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 30:
Inverness - MVP #3: 1 TP (wwW)
Rangers - MVP #3: 1 TP (Www)
Livingston - MVP #3: 1 TP (wwW)
Dumbarton - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 29:
Hamilton Accies - MVP #3: 1 TP (wDw)
Hibernian - MVP #4: 1 CP (wDW)
Peterhead - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
INV sends 210k to STJ for 2 TP
2 GK's sold today.
1 GK ready and waiting (3/23)
1 GK ready in 10 matches time. Inbox your offers.
MOT sends 1100k, 10 TP, David Noonan (7/4 GK) to PT for Kevin Budinauckas (0/17 GK)
ABE sends 12 TP, Jim Leighton (6/4 GK) to PT for Kenny Arthur (0/10 GK)
When your QOS passive team auto picked on energy level as well as skill level is still 66% strength, then your squad is in decent shape.
Sorry guys
Bit chaotic at work. Completely forgot to enter a line up last Wednesday
Highest bidders accepted tomorrow (Friday).
The following teams receive retire for cash through :
ANN(185) CLY(180) COW(266) DUM(555) DEE(144) EF(40) FAL(559) HAM(216) INV(234) MOT(393) PT(150)
Glad to see our bad luck has come down (AKA the numbers show we got some luck last weekend). We got very lucky in our win at DUM, and I was hoping the numbers would show it. A little luck to balance out some of our bad luck weeks ago. Feels like we are within a normal range of variance at this point - but I will hope we keep climbing towards 0
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 28:
Edinburgh City - MVP #4: 1 CP (wdW)
Stranraer - MVP #3: 1 TP (wDw)
Albion Rovers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Arbroath - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
Dundee United - MVP #3: 1 TP (wDw)
Stenhousemuir - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dww)
Annan Athletic - MVP #4: 1 CP (DwW)
Wee reminder a cup match for all today
Team | xP |
MOT | 40,8 |
FRA | 29,3 |
ARB | 25,9 |
CLY | 25,7 |
COW | 23,9 |
STE | 23,5 |
DEE | 21,7 |
DUM | 20,9 |
LIV | 20,6 |
SRA | 20,5 |
RR | 19,7 |
HEA | 19,2 |
HAM | 17,2 |
CB | 17,1 |
CEL | 14,3 |
STJ | 9,7 |
Not much news at the top or bottom.
FRA are now leading the race for the #2 spot.
The curse of the CECIL cup holds - all 4 SF teams are dropping: if you have to play series of T11 matches mid-week, you pay for it at the weekends.
Team | Luck |
ARB | +10,1 |
HEA | +7,8 |
STE | +7,5 |
HAM | +3,8 |
DEE | +3,3 |
STJ | +3,3 |
FRA | +2,7 |
RR | +1,3 |
CLY | +0,3 |
SRA | -0,5 |
LIV | -0,6 |
COW | -1,9 |
MOT | -3,8 |
DUM | -3,9 |
CB | -5,1 |
CEL | -7,3 |
HEA might still get lucky occasionally - but #1 here goes to ARB, now with double digits.
The top 3 now with a solid lead.
After four successive defeats, the Fifers were mightily relived to squeeze a 1-0 victory from Saturday’s match with Montrose. It was a win that we just about deserved, though our superior stats did not results in us having more shots on goal – Montrose outshot is 5-6. There is dissent in the camp at the moment, resulting in ill-discipline and over-aggression earnt Scott Shepherd two yellow cards, reducing us to ten men after 64 minutes. But to give them credit, the team hung on in there and a thunderbolt strike from Trevor Brooking (pictured) grabbed the three points for us in the 82nd minute.
Our second match was a visit to Elgin City, who licked us with a bit to spare. We were forced to play the match with only one forward and produced very few chances that that forward might have scored from. Meanwhile, Elgin were very much at ease and knocked three goals in at the other end.
We remain in the relegation playoff spots and welcome the SESL Cup as a chance to regroup. MSA has left us somewhat depleted and there are many wounds to lick….
Bournemouth 2-2 Wolves
Arsenal 3-0 West Ham
Aston Villa 2-0 Chelsea
Everton 2-0 Man United
Fulham 1-1 Crystal Palace
Ipswich Town 1-1 Tottenham (Come on you Tractor Boys!)
Leicester City 0-1 Brentford
Man City 0-2 Liverpool
Newcastle 2-1 Nottingham Forest
Southampton 0-2 Brighton
Bournemouth 2-1 Wolves
Arsenal 3-0 West Ham
Aston Villa 2-1 Chelsea
Everton 1-0 Man United
Fulham 1-1 Crystal Palace
Ipswich Town 1-3 Tottenham
Leicester City 1-1 Brentford
Man City 1-1 Liverpool
Newcastle 2-1 Nottingham Forest
Southampton 1-1 Brighton
Team | Junk | JDs |
COW | 6 | 3 |
LIV | 5 | 4 |
ARB | 5 | 3 |
HEA | 4 | 3 |
STJ | 4 | 3 |
DEE | 4 | 1 |
MOT | 3 | 1 |
CLY | 3 | 1 |
FRA | 3 | 0 |
SRA | 3 | 0 |
RR | 2 | 0 |
CB | 2 | 0 |
DUM | 1 | 1 |
STE | 1 | 0 |
HAM | 1 | 0 |
CEL | 0 | 0 |
The new sole leaders are Cowdenbeath.
Celtics are still waiting for their 1st junk lineup faced.
More interesting mid-season numbers:
All numbers seem quite within reason and randomness.
While last season raised the question of certain junk profiteers, this looks quite ok for me - Celtics may see it differently.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Feb 16th:
ALB(35) ANN(25) DEV(20) DUM(20) DEE(50) EF(30) EDI(20) FAL(15) FRA(10) HEA(10) HIB(20) LIV(10) MOT(50) PT(35) QP(10) ROS(20) STJ(20) SRA(30)
Bournemouth 3 - 0 Wolves
Arsenal 2 - 1 West Ham
Aston Villa 1 - 3 Chelsea
Everton 2 - 1 Man. United
Fulham 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Tottenham
Leicester City 1 - 3 Brentford
Man. City 2 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 1 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Southampton 1 - 2 Brighton
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Wolves
Arsenal 3 - 1 West Ham
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Chelsea
Everton 2 - 1 Man. United
Fulham 3 - 1 Crystal Palace
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 Tottenham
Leicester City 1 - 3 Brentford
Man. City 2 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Southampton 1 - 4 Brighton
What a time to be alive.
Man United languishing in 15th spot
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Wolves
Arsenal 2 - 0 West Ham
Aston Villa 1 - 1 Chelsea
Everton 1 - 1 Man. United
Fulham 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Tottenham
Leicester City 1 - 2 Brentford
Man. City 1 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Southampton 0 - 2 Brighton
INV sends 210k to LIV for 2 TP
INV sends 105k to COW for 1 TP
DEE drawn into the SESL "group of death" is turning into a traditon, now 3 of 3 seasons since I took over.
So far - also traditionally - DEE missed the R32, hmmm ...
I might just sneak into the next rd with a bit of luck then
Groups sorted by average T-11. The last column is just all goals scored by all teams in the group minus all goals conceded (all comps).
Group | Avg T-11 | Avg T-17 | Avg Morale | Cum. Goal Diff |
---|---|---|---|---|
G | 25.8 | 21.1 | 0.65 | 81 |
H | 24.9 | 20.5 | 0.48 | 53 |
E | 24.5 | 20.4 | 0.64 | 15 |
B | 24.5 | 20.6 | 0.50 | 12 |
D | 24.2 | 20.4 | 0.43 | -16 |
F | 24.1 | 20.0 | 0.42 | -68 |
A | 23.7 | 19.6 | 0.43 | -49 |
C | 23.1 | 18.9 | 0.44 | -28 |
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Feb 9th:
ANN(10) ARB(10) DUM(10) DEE(50) EF(20) EDI(30) FRA(15) HEA(10) HIB(50) LIV(10) MOT(50) PT(10) PET(10) QP(20) ROS(20) STE(20) SRA(20)
Andrew - you reversed over your Grans cat!?
I mean, how could you!?
.....its like being told your Grandma's favourite cat has been injured and you have to stump up the Vets bill......
... has happened.
Condolances to those most affected by this event.
π²
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 27:
Fraserburgh - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Motherwell - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Airdrieonians FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Queen of the South - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwW)
(best wait until after mid season ageing so you list correct skill levels)
Cash-in your old players for money before match 28 kicks off.
There is no requirement to buy an apprentice as 2nd option of season is just a straight cash-in.
Managers will post on NOTEBOOK what the aged SL and value is of players being retired, plus a total amount due.
Link to Notebook is top right of screen beside the 'log out' button.
Managers will retire players themselves before Sesl cup match kick offs Wed 19th Feb, 3pm.
Commish within 24 hours will add cash in full of the players that were retired before deadline.
Any player retired by accident cannot be re-introduced to the game as database does not facilitate this.
(an exeption may be made if a valuable apprentice is maybe retired in error,
but the player would need created from scratch and will have lost his history)
any player age 4+ with SL12 or less is eligable to be cashed in.
Age 4 players at 15k per SL
Age 5 players at 12k per SL
Age 6 players at 10k per SL
Age 7+ players at 8k per SL
After match 27 I'm afraid chaps.
SRA history last 11 seasons shows a handful of cup wins, and a few cup runner-up spots too.
Hold your head up.
SRA extend their sincere congratulations to Eduard and his lads on a fine performance in the Cup Final. At 2-nil up we had it in the bag but his team showed commitment and resolve to end a fine campaign. Well done!
The following teams receive Cup Draw Participation through :
ANN(100) HIB(50) PT(50)
HEA remain the #1 lucky guy at +7.2 ?
Well, thank you. Not Mother-well, thank you ;-)
Team | xP |
MOT | 36,0 |
ARB | 24,0 |
FRA | 23,7 |
CLY | 21,7 |
DEE | 20,4 |
DUM | 20,1 |
COW | 19,9 |
STE | 18,7 |
SRA | 17,8 |
LIV | 17,7 |
RR | 17,6 |
HEA | 16,8 |
HAM | 15,3 |
CEL | 14,1 |
CB | 13,9 |
STJ | 8,9 |
As noted by Andrew, only so much effects of "luck" can be shown by the luck and xP tables.
Neither the strength of opposition nor superstar rolls nor injuries nor ...
However, if anyone but MOT should win the div1 this season, they will have to be quite lucky.
MOT's xP lead over #2 ARB is by now bigger than ARB's lead over #15(!) CB.
At least the race for #2 is wide open.
Team | Luck |
HEA | +7,2 |
STE | +6,3 |
ARB | +6,0 |
STJ | +4,1 |
DEE | +3,6 |
HAM | +2,7 |
RR | +2,4 |
FRA | +2,3 |
CLY | +1,3 |
LIV | -0,7 |
COW | -0,9 |
SRA | -1,8 |
CB | -2,9 |
DUM | -3,1 |
MOT | -5,0 |
CEL |
-7,1 |
HEA remain the #1 lucky guy at +7.2, even if their unlucky defeat at DEE does cost them much of their lead.
STE and ARB are closing the gap. Even DEE are now in solid black at +3.6.
Yes, great match to watch. Congrats to the winner, and commiserations to the loser.
Twists and turns.
Great game.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 25:
Dundee FC - MVP #5: 25k (wWW)
Oof. 4 teams in the top 10 for T-11. A 5th just down at 19th. Looks to be a tricky one.
The wheel once again spun into action and has delivered the following groups. Thanks to David (HIB) for making the draw valid by attending throughout and to a brief & very quiet Ray (PT), both will get an easy 50 k for their efforts.
Group A | Group B | Group C | Group D | |||||
Brechin City | Cowdenbeath | Rangers | Saint Mirren | |||||
Airdrieonians FC | Montrose | Albion Rovers | Clydebank | |||||
Aberdeen | Stranraer | Partick Thistle | Dunfermline Athletic | |||||
Greenock Morton | Edinburgh City | Kilmarnock | Cove Rangers | |||||
Ross County | East Fife | Queen of the South | Hamilton Accies | |||||
Inverness | Raith Rovers | Celtic | Arbroath | |||||
Group E | Group F | Group G | Group H | |||||
Stenhousemuir | Peterhead | Livingston | Stirling | |||||
Hibernian | Alloa Athletic | Dundee FC | Nairn County | |||||
Fraserburgh | Queens Park | Annan Athletic | Dumbarton | |||||
Berwick | Hearts | Deveronvale | East Stirlingshire | |||||
Forfar Athletic | Saint Johnstone | Ayr United | Clyde FC | |||||
Dundee United | Falkirk | Motherwell | Elgin City | |||||
Calling ALL (other) managers ... experience the draw live, see the 'wheel of names' in action & hope its kind in its selections .... plus earn a small bonus (£50 k) for your team in the process!
Please join TONIGHT, 8pm start via the link below ...
TEAMS LINK
Hopefully see some of you then
Dan
Team | Junk | JDs |
ARB | 5 | 3 |
COW | 5 | 3 |
LIV | 4 | 3 |
HEA | 4 | 3 |
DEE | 4 | 1 |
STJ | 3 | 2 |
MOT | 3 | 1 |
CLY | 3 | 1 |
SRA | 2 | 0 |
CB | 2 | 0 |
DUM | 1 | 1 |
FRA | 1 | 0 |
RR | 1 | 0 |
HAM | 1 | 0 |
STE | 0 | 0 |
CEL | 0 | 0 |
This is getting a bit boring.
Last season STJ and HEA dominated this ranking - raising long discussions about "clever management".
This season we see random noise with just minor expected correlations.
So the new top pair are ARB and COW(!?),
CEL continue their unlucky streak even here.
A 1-0 is nothing. Albion beat them 8-0 at the weekend
Queens Park are 5th in the division below Rangers (championship) so they just 14 league places below Rangers in a combined table.
However the Spiders are a part time team still (I think) so the players have another jobs.
Another job is what Rangers manager Clement ought have by now after an inconsistent season. Making Europa league top 8 knock out stage is only thing keeping him as Rangers manager I think.
Liverpool rested their top players, but still great to see Plymouth win, and now go to Manchester City in cup as a reward.
What an upset by the real Queen's Park this weekend beating Rangers at Ibrox! Bigger than Plymouth?
League action back next weekend after the FA cup break this weekend highlighted by Plymouth Argyle knocking out Liverpool.
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Brighton 1 - 2 Chelsea
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Everton
Fulham 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Leicester City 0 - 2 Arsenal
Liverpool 2 - 0 Wolves
Man. City 2 - 1 Newcastle
Southampton 0 - 2 Bournemouth
Tottenham 2 - 1 Man. United
West Ham 2 - 1 Brentford
As Sun-Tzu says “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle”. Which is why SRA are going into this as a football game instead of a war. The lads are well rested and ready for the final assault in full battle fatigues.
“If you know the enemy and you know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles."
HIB sends Patrick Cunningham (5/12 DF) to COV for 100k
Fear not Mr Blair ... it's on :-)
Calling ALL (other) managers ... experience the draw live, see the 'wheel of names' in action & hope its kind in its selections .... plus earn a small bonus (£50 k) for your team in the process!
Please join via the link below ... TUES 11th FEB ... 8 PM start
TEAMS LINK
Hopefully see some of you then
Dan
Not many bargains today at auction.
Maybe what MON paid.
The days of 1k auction wins seem in the distant past.
Wingers can cross for 900 minutes never mind 90 and such minor low skill level forwards are not gonna to score I'd guess.
Baffling match yesterday.
Ed at DEE may call it "junk" lineup.
Patience young grasshopper san (David Blair).....
All will be revealed.....in good time!!
Just back from a weekend break hoping to see details of the above Cup draw taking place maybe tonight online and with a login.
But nothing there - just that Mark normally does it about 10 days before the first set of games. Perhaps being done using some of the managers. Not to worry.. π€ππ
The following teams receive cost to change Captain through Muddy Waters:
MOT(-100)
RAN sends 315k to MOT for 3 TP
I'm probably more shocked than anyone, Cameron π Early stalls and wins by 1 goal are typically my specialty around here.
Makes me extra glad we slightly overpaid for an age 5 midfielder last auction. Each captain's bonus is certainly worth about 130-140k, I would think. Guess that's a story of Motherwell being lucky this season that the xP table isn't showing...
... a thinly veiled...
"we've spanked yet another team 3 nil"
... blog post surely π€£
MOT would like to request a captain change.
Old captain: WG Jimmie Dale Gilmore
New Captain: MF Muddy Waters
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 24:
Saint Johnstone - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Stenhousemuir - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Peterhead - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Dundee United - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WDw)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 23:
Motherwell - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Livingston - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Elgin City - MVP #4: 1 CP (wwD)
Annan Athletic - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Nairn County - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
So MOT have been very unlucky
While STJ are very lucky?
Is that what table means?
It might have been a nice little job but will confess I must have slipped up somewhere as I have no idea what it is about. I read it initially but got lost and never picked it up again. And as it only concerned the elite I just scurried over it from then on. Ooops!
... from me at least.
These calculations are somewhat time consuming - and, sadly, I still have a limited time budget.
You might get the div2 numbers from someone else, though.
I guess you know fully well why both of your matches dropped into the 0.1 xP bucket ;-)
These tables are great, especially like the 'luck' one. Any chance you could run the same figures for Div 2?
... or better: xP table, because this order looks more interesting currently.
Team | xP | Pt | Luck |
MOT | 31,2 | 25 | -6,2 |
ARB | 22,1 | 27 | 4,9 |
FRA | 21,0 | 23 | 2,0 |
DEE | 19,1 | 18 | -1,1 |
CLY | 19,0 | 23 | 4,0 |
DUM | 18,0 | 14 | -4,0 |
COW | 17,2 | 16 | -1,2 |
STE | 16,0 | 19 | 3,0 |
SRA | 15,1 | 16 | 0,9 |
LIV | 15,0 | 16 | 1,0 |
RR | 14,9 | 17 | 2,1 |
HAM | 13,9 | 17 | 3,1 |
CEL | 12,8 | 6 | -6,8 |
HEA | 12,0 | 21 | 9,0 |
CB | 11,2 | 8 | -3,2 |
STJ | 4,9 | 9 | 4,1 |
MOT are leading 9 xP clear of the rest - it's probably a good thing that their rolls stay ugly, now at -6.2.
This way at least the actual table remains interesting.
ARB and DUM suffer from their attempts at the CECIL, but with less than 5 xP between COW and ARB everything BUT #1 is anyone's game.
At the bottom STJ continue their planned relegation - and div2 promotion - scheme.
Everyone else would be in reach of #12, xP-wise.
Speaking of, CEL stay #1 in the bad luck ranking with -6.8. A weak squad AND bad rolls seem to be too much for their div1 hopes.
HEA continue to show how to roll, now leading at +9.0 - and some margin to ARB's +4.9.
Any word of when (and a link) for the above Cup will be announced. Due to loss of revenue (and not being admitted to the CECIL Cup draw), we have to explore all avenues for earning. π°π°π° ππ
Team | Junk | JDs |
COW | 4 | 3 |
LIV | 4 | 3 |
ARB | 4 | 2 |
HEA | 3 | 3 |
MOT | 3 | 1 |
CLY | 3 | 1 |
DEE | 3 | 0 |
STJ | 2 | 2 |
SRA | 2 | 0 |
DUM | 1 | 1 |
FRA | 1 | 0 |
RR | 1 | 0 |
HAM | 1 | 0 |
CB | 1 | 0 |
STE | 0 | 0 |
CEL | 0 | 0 |
It is obviously very hard to find a clever manager these days.
You'd expect MOT or ARB leading, but COW are now shared leader with LIV!?
All very balanced at these stage - despite the CECIL cup. All teams have at most seen 4 junk squads after 12 matches.
I might even guess that last season's debate about "junk profiteers" has shown some success.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 22:
Dundee FC - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWw)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Feb 2nd:
ARB(30) DUM(20) DEE(50) EF(50) EDI(20) FAL(25) FRA(25) HEA(15) HIB(50) LIV(25) MOT(50) QOS(25) QP(25) ROS(20) SRA(35)
A very low scoring week with Bryce and I sharing the W.
Bryce Kalmbach 6.0
Alon Atie 6.0
David Blair 5.5
Paul Cockyne 4.5
Andy Shaw 4.0
Andrew McCumiskey 3.5
Oh, blast!!
Saw and filled up the EPL and didn't notice the Prediction league - my division as well!! π
With a full 9 points I would be sitting beside Paul, not literally you understand, at the top. But I am not bitter - problem is we don't get anything for predicting the EPL - hence the reason few managers play it. We are always interested in earning cash for our teams - and I'm not harping back to the reviews we don't have. π
Thanks for the update. SRA move up from =23rd to 22nd.......the parties will last the rest of February......
Dundee or Fraserburgh just one fewer bid away from getting one of the best bargains we've seen in a while. Two fewer bids from having a 0/10 FW for 1k!
Thanks John, you are quite correct, forgot to adjust a formula. Here is the (more) correct table...
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | Total |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 32 |
2 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 30 |
2 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 30 |
4 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 5 | 28 |
4 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 28 |
6 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 27 |
6 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 27 |
8 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 26 |
8 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 26 |
10 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 24 |
11 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 23 |
11 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 23 |
11 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 23 |
14 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 22 |
15 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 21 |
15 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 21 | |
15 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 6 | 21 |
18 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 20 |
18 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 20 | |
20 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 19 |
20 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 19 |
22 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 18 | |
23 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 17 | |
23 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 17 | |
23 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 17 | |
26 | Ayr United | 5 | 6 | 3 | 14 | ||
27 | Dumbarton | 5 | 5 | 10 | |||
28 | Forfar | 4 | 5 | 9 | |||
29 | Dunfermline | 4 | 3 | 7 | |||
30 | Albion | 3 | 3 | ||||
30 | Brechin City | 3 | 3 | ||||
6.16 | 3.36 | 4.92 | 5.19 | 4.12 |
Oh, blast!!
Saw and filled up the EPL and didn't notice the Prediction league - my division as well!! π
With a full 9 points I would be sitting beside Paul, not literally you understand, at the top. But I am not bitter - problem is we don't get anything for predicting the EPL - hence the reason few managers play it. We are always interested in earning cash for our teams - and I'm not harping back to the reviews we don't have. π
Thanks for running prediction league Paul.
The totals column may not be adding all 5 weeks in. Might be a formula tweak to move over 1 cell extra wide.
No need to repost scores, and will be sorted for next round of fixtures after MSA I'm sure.
Must be a lot of manual work, so well done again doing such a good job.
This was a difficult week, with an average score of 4.19. Only Hibernian's win over Peterhead was straightforward, no other match had more than 50% of entrants predicting the result correctly.
Amid all the chaos, four teams managed to notch up six points, so it's 25k each to Dan (Annan), Cameron (Arbroath), Eduard (Dundee FC) and Paul (East Fife).
The Prediction League is taking a break now until after MSA. Our next round will be on March 1st, Match 33. I will post the fixtures on the Notebook nearer the time.
Prediction | ABE v MON | HIB v PET | ELG v RAN | BRE v QOS | ALO v NAI | AI v INV | ALB v GM | ANN v EF |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 58% | 96% | 69% | 50% | 42% | 46% | 58% | 42% |
Away | 38% | 0% | 19% | 35% | 38% | 35% | 38% | 42% |
Draw | 4% | 4% | 12% | 15% | 19% | 19% | 4% | 15% |
Banker Count | 0% | 62% | 0% | 12% | 4% | 15% | 0% | 8% |
Result | 2 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | D2 19 | Round 5 Scores | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | R5 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 26 | Annan | 6 | |
2 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 25 | Arbroath | 6 | |
3 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 24 | Dundee FC | 6 | |
4 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 23 | East Fife | 6 | |
4 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 5 | 23 | Deveronvale | 5 | |
4 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 23 | Dumbarton | 5 | |
4 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 23 | East Stirlingshire | 5 | |
8 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 21 | Livingston | 5 | |
8 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 21 | Motherwell | 5 | |
8 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 5 | 21 | Queens Park | 5 | |
11 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 20 | Stirling | 5 | |
12 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 19 | Cowdenbeath | 4 | |
12 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 19 | Edinburgh | 4 | |
12 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 19 | Elgin City | 4 | |
15 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 18 | Inverness | 4 | |
16 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 17 | Queen of the South | 4 | ||
16 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 17 | Stranraer | 4 | |
16 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 17 | Alloa | 3 | ||
19 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 16 | Ayr United | 3 | |
19 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 16 | Dunfermline | 3 | ||
19 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 16 | Falkirk | 3 | ||
22 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 6 | 15 | Nairn County | 3 | |
23 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 | 14 | Partick Thistle | 3 | |
23 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 14 | St Johnstone | 3 | ||
23 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 14 | Stenhousemuir | 3 | ||
26 | Ayr United | 5 | 6 | 3 | 11 | Hearts | 2 | |||
27 | Forfar | 4 | 5 | 9 | ||||||
28 | Dumbarton | 5 | 5 | 5 | ||||||
29 | Dunfermline | 4 | 3 | 4 | ||||||
30 | Albion | 3 | 3 | |||||||
30 | Brechin City | 3 | 3 | |||||||
6.16 | 3.36 | 4.92 | 5.19 | 4.12 |
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 5 1/2/25:
ANN(25) ARB(25) DEE(25) EF(25)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Jan 26th:
ALB(10) ALO(20) ANN(10) ARB(40) COW(10) DUM(10) DEE(50) EF(50) EDI(45) FAL(35) FRA(10) HEA(10) HIB(50) MOT(30) PT(20) QOS(50) ROS(20) SRA(30)
Motherwell have won 10 matches on the season so far.
Motherwell's captain has 9 Captain's Bonuses.
Would like it if we would win some of the close ones, too! Though, to be honest some of those 3+ goal margins were in matches that maybe should have been closer than the scoreline suggested.
I think we've maybe reached 10 captain's bonuses in a season once, and if we did it was in the last gameweeks of the season. Valuable results for our T-11, these.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 20:
Rangers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Greenock Morton - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Saint Mirren - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Edinburgh City - MVP #3: 1 TP (wwW)
The xP/xG calculation is mostly straight forward the common football calculation.
Each team gets ns shots which each turn into a goal with probability p(ns).
Sum it up and you get the xG.
Given all shots and probabilities some basic statistics then deliver the xP.
There are actually some improvements to the football xP formula, such that ...
- GKSL and SSL are accounted for
- offside and penalty kicks are calculated from probabilities
The result is quite exact up to 1 digit.
However, this would mean that every match had to be calculated this way.
Instead, when a match shows up as 4.0-0.2 xG it is instantly put in the 2.8-0.1 xP bucket.
My initial thought was if it was 20ELs for 100k then the injured lad must be at least - 28 after his game. This would mean no player under that (between -28 and -16 say) could use the Physio Boost
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 19:
Dundee FC - MVP #3: 1 TP (WWw)
Hibernian - MVP #3: 1 TP (WdW)
Deveronvale - MVP #3: 1 TP (WdW)
Kilmarnock - MVP #3: 1 TP (wDw)
Just one quick note on injuries - noticed Cameron's comment about random leg breaks in the poll. Note that the worst random injury you can get is -20 (1 in 50 random injuries). A leg break will only occur if the player is playing with negative EL (1 in 100 exhaustion injuries)
May all change for any team resting today with Cup semi finals in mind ;-)
Expected points allocation I'm asking about: what stats are used to decide this figure?
Is it percentage of skill level played in a match?
Or area totals of a match?
or league position: so 3rd place against 13th place expected 2.5 points?
Great work Ed, but I just trying to understand the criteria beyond what I copy pasted below, thanks.
DUM's xPs are certainly - next to CEL's - surprising, but there are some reasons for your success.
Wer should probably start a how to beat DUM discussion.
For the sake of transparency this week's luck table shows every single evaluation in the mx columns.
If you spot an error...
Bournemouth 1 - 2 Liverpool
Arsenal 2 - 1 Man. City
Brentford 2 - 1 Tottenham
Chelsea 2 - 0 West Ham
Everton 3 - 1 Leicester City
Ipswich Town 2 - 0 Southampton
Man. United 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 1 - 1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 2 - 0 Brighton
Wolves 1 - 2 Aston Villa
It still amuses me that DUM *should* be 3rd in the league - love it.
Having said that, it irks me that both ARB and HEA came to the Rock and won. Should not have happened. If DUM had won those two then 20 points and top 3. Makes you think π€
Team | xP | Pt | Luck | Junk | JDs | M1 | M2 | M3 | M4 | M5 | M6 | M7 | M8 | M9 | M10 | |
HEA | 10,1 | 17 | 6,9 | 2 | 2 | 1,2 | 1,2 | 2,8 | 0,1 | 0,1 | 0,7 | 2,0 | 0,1 | 1,2 | 0,7 | |
ARB | 20,8 | 27 | 6,2 | 3 | 1 | 2,0 | 1,2 | 2,8 | 1,2 | 2,8 | 2,8 | 1,2 | 1,2 | 2,8 | 2,8 | |
CLY | 14,2 | 20 | 5,8 | 2 | 1 | 0,1 | 0,7 | 0,7 | 1,2 | 2,8 | 2,0 | 1,2 | 0,7 | 2,8 | 2,0 | |
STE | 12,5 | 16 | 3,5 | 0 | 0 | 0,7 | 0,1 | 2,8 | 1,2 | 1,2 | 0,1 | 2,0 | 1,2 | 1,2 | 2,0 | |
HAM | 10,4 | 13 | 2,6 | 0 | 0 | 1,2 | 0,1 | 2,0 | 0,7 | 0,1 | 2,8 | 2,0 | 0,7 | 0,1 | 0,7 | |
SRA | 12,4 | 15 | 2,6 | 2 | 0 | 1,2 | 2,0 | 0,1 | 0,1 | 0,1 | 2,8 | 2,8 | 2,0 | 1,2 | 0,1 | |
FRA | 17,5 | 20 | 2,5 | 0 | 0 | 0,1 | 2,8 | 0,1 | 2,8 | 2,8 | 0,1 | 2,8 | 1,2 | 2,8 | 2,0 | |
RR | 12,0 | 14 | 2,0 | 0 | 0 | 1,2 | 1,2 | 2,8 | 1,2 | 0,7 | 0,1 | 1,2 | 2,8 | 0,1 | 0,7 | |
STJ | 4,1 | 6 | 1,9 | 2 | 2 | 2,0 | 0,7 | 0,1 | 0,1 | 0,1 | 0,1 | 0,7 | 0,1 | 0,1 | 0,1 | |
LIV | 10,2 | 10 | -0,2 | 3 | 2 | 0,7 | 0,1 | 2,0 | 0,7 | 1,2 | 0,1 | 0,7 | 0,7 | 1,2 | 2,8 | |
COW | 14,3 | 13 | -1,3 | 2 | 2 | 1,2 | 2,0 | 0,1 | 2,0 | 2,0 | 2,8 | 0,1 | 1,2 | 0,1 | 2,8 | |
CB | 10,4 | 8 | -2,4 | 1 | 0 | 0,7 | 0,7 | 0,7 | 1,2 | 2,8 | 0,1 | 0,1 | 2,0 | 2,0 | 0,1 | |
DEE | 15,1 | 12 | -3,1 | 2 | 0 | 1,2 | 2,8 | 0,1 | 2,8 | 0,1 | 2,8 | 1,2 | 1,2 | 2,8 | 0,1 | |
DUM | 17,8 | 14 | -3,8 | 1 | 1 | 2,8 | 2,0 | 2,0 | 1,2 | 1,2 | 2,8 | 0,1 | 2,8 | 0,1 | 2,8 | |
CEL | 10,7 | 5 | -5,7 | 0 | 0 | 2,8 | 1,2 | 0,7 | 2,0 | 1,2 | 0,1 | 0,7 | 1,2 | 0,7 | 0,1 | |
MOT | 26,4 | 19 | -7,4 | 2 | 1 | 2,0 | 2,8 | 2,8 | 2,8 | 2,8 | 2,8 | 2,8 | 2,0 | 2,8 | 2,8 |
HEA regain the lead - since ARB are really unlucky losers, for once.
MOT cannot close the gap, though, since they enjoy another bad session.
We have 8 entries so far....
The following teams receive Physio Boost through Logan Chalmers:
PT(-80)
Great game of association football in Champions League tonight.
Bit of a white wash in 2nd leg of Cecil cup today.
Is playing at home in 2nd leg a significant advantage?
Bournemouth 1 - 3 Liverpool
Arsenal 1 - 1 Man. City
Brentford 1 - 0 Tottenham
Chelsea 2 - 0 West Ham
Everton 1 - 1 Leicester City
Ipswich Town 2 - 1 Southampton
Man. United 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 3 - 1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 1 - 2 Brighton
Wolves 1 - 3 Aston Villa
ROS sends 300k to LIV for Bruce Anderson (5/21 FW)
SM sends 420k to DEE for 4 TP
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 18:
Stranraer - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Dumbarton - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Bournemouth 1 - 1 Liverpool
Arsenal 2 - 1 Man. City
Brentford 2 - 0 Tottenham
Chelsea 3 - 1 West Ham
Everton 1 - 0 Leicester City
Ipswich Town 3 - 1 Southampton
Man. United 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 2 - 1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Brighton
Wolves 0 - 2 Aston Villa
PET sends 315k to ARB for 3 TP
Bournemouth 1 - 3 Liverpool
Arsenal 2 - 2 Man. City
Brentford 2 - 3 Tottenham
Chelsea 3 - 0 West Ham
Everton 1 - 0 Leicester City
Ipswich Town 3 - 1 Southampton
Man. United 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 2 - 1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 2 - 0 Brighton
Wolves 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Bournemouth 2-2 Liverpool
Arsenal 1-1 Man City
Brentford 3-1 Tottenham
Chelsea 2-1 West Ham
Everton 2-1 Leicester City
Ipswich Town 1-1 Southampton
Man United 2-1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 3-1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 1-1 Brighton
Wolves 1-1 Aston Villa
For this weekend
Bournemouth 1 - 2 Liverpool
Arsenal 2 - 1 Man. City
Brentford 2 - 1 Tottenham
Chelsea 2 - 0 West Ham
Everton 1 - 0 Leicester City
Ipswich Town 2 - 1 Southampton
Man. United 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 2 - 1 Fulham
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Brighton
Wolves 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Final upgrade requested & made to Cooper ....
D1 - COW
D2 - INV & AI
D3 – EST, FAL & EDI
ARB sends 2 TP to SM for 210k
If you gonna have a moan Eddie then at least get the award correct....
From wiki rules: "Fair Play Least DP Team Award +2 OTF"
The rules may not be up to date, I have no idea.
I may even agree with you 2 OTF is too much for fair play (essentially its 4 CP. That is close to Ed 400k claim right enough) π
Suggest an alternative award if you feel so strongly against it.
2 exact scores carries the day for Paul Cockyne
Paul Cockyne 10.5
Andrew Foss Grant 8.5
Andy Shaw 7.5
Alon Atie 7.0
David Blair 5.0
Andrew McCumiskey 4.5
Things are heating up in this very important trophy, so I won't hide it in the Luck Table small print anymore - and give it the room it deserves ...
Team | Junk | JDs |
LIV | 3 | 2 |
ARB | 3 | 1 |
HEA | 2 | 2 |
STJ | 2 | 2 |
COW | 2 | 2 |
CLY | 2 | 1 |
MOT | 2 | 1 |
SRA | 2 | 0 |
DEE | 2 | 0 |
DUM | 1 | 1 |
CB | 1 | 0 |
STE | 0 | 0 |
HAM | 0 | 0 |
FRA | 0 | 0 |
RR | 0 | 0 |
CEL | 0 | 0 |
The JDs column shows the number of matches where not one but two junk lineups played each other.
Depending on your mind set, you might call them the most clever or particularly smelly lineups.
The leaders with 3 junk lineups against are
More to come shortly.
The fair play award is clearly the 3rd most silly award in SESL.
It's basically just a roll out between the teams that don't use excessive hardness - and way over-prized at 400k.
Even 100k would be quite generous.
Some childcare issues popped up this morning and I missed the Monday deadline. Woof. Might be time to wrap it up for the season
Steve, have to say I take exception to the "dirty" tag you gave us - I know it was meant for me as David @KIL has a low total. ππππ ππ
I play quite a bit on "aggressive" but very seldom on "dirty" - in fact almost never. I know dirty can give opponents some injuries (not my intention) whilst aggression ionly gives me DPs, lower ELs, and suspensions (which I accept as part of the game).
But thanks for the topic which should net both of us some participation cash.. π° π
1 hour til kick off
Physio Boost of +8EL at cost of 80k after Monday's matches for
Logan Chalmers FW 3/34
Whoops used a player name already on the team. Luckily I wouldn't have won a lot.
Andy, season is young yet. I will be well over 200DPs by the end (as normal) - usually Matt @ ALB is close behind.. :-)
Auctions can be a lottery.
Auctions can be fun.
Auctions can auto-exclude future bids when a player with same name is won, which is clever.
However. One team had a duplicate player error from Lot ONE onwards this evening.
That is new.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Jan 19th:
AI(5) ALO(10) ANN(10) ARB(30) COW(5) DUM(10) DEE(50) EF(50) EDI(30) FAL(20) FRA(15) HEA(25) HIB(35) LIV(20) MOT(25) PT(35) QP(30) ROS(20) SRA(25)
Aggressive does cause more injuries but it's the same chance for both teams. Think it just depends on the number of aggressive players on the pitch. Dirty does cause a higher chance of injures to your opponents than yourselves.
I'm impressed David. I thought we were bad with 86 DP but 106 is a top effort.
Steve, have to say I take exception to the "dirty" tag you gave us - I know it was meant for me as David @KIL has a low total. ππππ ππ
I play quite a bit on "aggressive" but very seldom on "dirty" - in fact almost never. I know dirty can give opponents some injuries (not my intention) whilst aggression ionly gives me DPs, lower ELs, and suspensions (which I accept as part of the game).
But thanks for the topic which should net both of us some participation cash.. π° π
Luv a pair of Kippers....good for you too.
No idea what that means,
but deserved Min 86 winner for SRA yesterday.
The Chairman has splashed out on a very special breakfast for the lads this bright sunny morning.
Dan, I don't really know the reason for that rule, it's been in place for as long as I remember, but I don't know why it was introduced. My guess would be that it's to stop lazy people predicting all homes every week, but probably Mark can enlighten us?
... Ooof, forgot about that rule (what purpose is it there for again?). I did actually pick based on what I thought would occur i.e. all home wins but I accept my mistake :-(
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 4 25/1/25:
MOT(100)
With six home wins, the scores were fairly high, with everybody predicting Motherwell's victory and all but one backing Arbroath - and 59% picking this one as the banker.
I had to disallow Annan's entry because it picked all eight matches as home wins. And Livingston tried to sneak in two bankers. As one was successful and the other not, I disallowed both.
I would also have loved to disallow Motherwell's entry but couldn't find an excuse to, so Andrew racks up a perfect nine points and 100k. Well done sir!
Next week we are in Division 2, I'll post the entry form on the Notebook shortly.
Prediction | ARB v STJ | SRA v STE | MOT v RR | HEA v LIV | FRA v HAM | DEE v DUM | CLY v COW | CB v CEL |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 96% | 52% | 100% | 81% | 93% | 33% | 85% | 41% |
Away | 0% | 11% | 0% | 15% | 0% | 52% | 7% | 19% |
Draw | 4% | 37% | 0% | 4% | 7% | 15% | 7% | 41% |
Banker Count | 59% | 0% | 7% | 19% | 4% | 4% | 7% | 0% |
Result | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | D1 15 | Round 4 Scores | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | R4 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 26 | Motherwell | 9 | |
2 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 25 | Dundee FC | 8 | |
3 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 24 | East Fife | 8 | |
4 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 23 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | |
4 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 23 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | |
4 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 23 | Ayr United | 6 | |
4 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 23 | Cowdenbeath | 6 | |
8 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 21 | Edinburgh | 6 | |
8 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 21 | Elgin City | 6 | |
8 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 6 | 21 | Queens Park | 6 | |
11 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 20 | Stranraer | 6 | |
12 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 19 | Alloa Athletic | 5 | |
12 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 19 | Dumbarton | 5 | |
12 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 5 | 19 | Falkirk | 5 | |
15 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 18 | Forfar | 5 | |
16 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 17 | Inverness | 5 | |
16 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 17 | Queen of the South | 5 | |
16 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 17 | Ross County | 5 | |
19 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 16 | St Johnstone | 5 | |
19 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 6 | 16 | Stirling | 5 | ||
19 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 4 | 16 | Arbroath | 4 | ||
22 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 15 | Deveronvale | 4 | |
23 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 14 | Hibernian | 4 | |
23 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 4 | 14 | Livingston | 4 | ||
23 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 6 | 14 | Nairn County | 4 | ||
26 | Ayr United | 5 | 6 | 11 | Partick Thistle | 4 | |||
27 | Forfar | 4 | 5 | 9 | Hearts | 3 | |||
28 | Dumbarton | 5 | 5 | Annan | 0 | ||||
29 | Dunfermline | 4 | 4 | ||||||
30 | Albion | 3 | 3 | ||||||
30 | Brechin City | 3 | 3 | ||||||
6.16 | 3.36 | 4.92 | 5.19 |
Can we rename it the "lucky bastard" award. Alloa are the 9th dirtiest team despite the fact that we play passive a third of the time. Yes it stops the dirty teams (hello, David) winning but apart from that it's a complete lottery.
I am with Andrew on this one. Let us use the xP table as the actual table. I will not disclose the preseason status of how DUM ranked in T11 and T17 but someone has more faith in my squad than whoever is in charge of the Stats page ;-)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 16:
Livingston - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Annan Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 15:
Fraserburgh - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Dundee FC - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Wwd)
Clyde FC - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Nairn County - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
East Fife - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Ayr United - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Saint Mirren - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wDW)
To be clear, I just meant switching those to be the official standings ;)
Didn't mean to create more work for you - I think the way you publish your data weekly was great already. Thanks for putting it together this season!
Auction 3 results LOT Previously Paid (PP) 1. 5/23 FW PP 206-334k FAL 401k. C rating. Record high price, but will get goals this season. 2. 4/20 MF PP 351-436k LIV 556k. D rating. Record high price, average player. 3. 3/19 GK PP 101-405k CLY 401k. B rating. Replaces 7SK back up GK. Marc rebuilding well. 4. 2/18 DF PP 150-506k BER 457k. B rating. BER CP'ing three age 4, so hopefully this sees CP 5. 1/16 MF PP 2-626k CEL 435k. B rating. Highest SL MF at CEL, will help turn things around. 6. 0/10 WG PP 356-1109k ALO 1000k.B rating. 2nd young WG added. ALO change for B to Early Cross? 7. 0/9 DF PP 202-1000k QOS 900k. B rating. Should stop QOS wasting TP on age 1 DF duffers. 8. 0/8 SD PP 223-801k BRE 889k. C rating. Record high price, and THIRD SD at BRE. 9. 0/7 FW PP 1-700k STJ 600k. C rating. High price and unlikely to turn STJ season around.
PP means Previously Paid
> Can we switch to the xP table for the league this season?
I wouldn't mind, but I don't think you'll get an unaminous vote for the switch.
Still, as a gift to you, the "correct" table after 10 matches ...
Team | xP | Pt |
MOT | 20,8 | 16 |
ARB | 15,2 | 24 |
DUM | 14,9 | 11 |
FRA | 12,7 | 16 |
DEE | 12,2 | 9 |
COW | 11,4 | 10 |
RR | 11,2 | 13 |
SRA | 11,1 | 12 |
CEL | 9,9 | 5 |
HAM | 9,6 | 13 |
CLY | 9,4 | 14 |
STE | 9,3 | 12 |
CB | 8,3 | 5 |
HEA | 8,2 | 16 |
LIV | 6,2 | 4 |
STJ | 3,9 | 3 |
Can we switch to the xP table for the league this season? 21 points with a 6 point gap to second place sure sounds nice and beats our reality of being 8 points down on ARB...
Bournemouth 2-1 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 2-1 West Ham
Brighton 2-1 Everton
Crystal Palace 1-1 Brentford
Fulham 1-2 Man United
Liverpool 3-0 Ipswich Town
Man City 3-2 Chelsea
Southampton 1-4 Newcastle
Tottenham 2-1 Leicester City
Wolves 1-2 Arsenal
NAI sends 500k to AI for 5 TP
Team | xP | Pt | Luck | Junk |
ARB | 15,2 | 24 | 8,8 | 1 |
HEA | 8,2 | 16 | 7,8 | 1 |
CLY | 9,4 | 14 | 4,6 | 1 |
HAM | 9,6 | 13 | 3,4 | 0 |
FRA | 12,7 | 16 | 3,3 | 0 |
STE | 9,3 | 12 | 2,7 | 0 |
RR | 11,2 | 13 | 1,8 | 0 |
SRA | 11,1 | 12 | 0,9 | 2 |
STJ | 3,9 | 3 | -0,9 | 1 |
COW | 11,4 | 10 | -1,4 | 1 |
LIV | 6,2 | 4 | -2,2 | 1 |
DEE | 12,2 | 9 | -3,2 | 2 |
CB | 8,3 | 5 | -3,3 | 1 |
DUM | 14,9 | 11 | -3,9 | 1 |
MOT | 20,8 | 16 | -4,8 | 1 |
CEL | 9,9 | 5 | -4,9 | 0 |
We have a new leader in the luck table.
ARB's perfect run was supported by enough near perfect rolls to take the top spot with splendid +8.8.
HEA stays strong, though, trailing by just 1 pt.
CEL stays last, but xP leader MOT enjoys some more missed points at #15 now.
The rolling gap between MOT and actual leader ARB has reached 13.6 xP already. Those are quite remarkable 1.7 xP per match.E
The clever management trophy remains surprisingly open.
No team has seen more than 2 junk lineups so far.
RAN sends 90k to CLY for 1 TP
Boom boom Andrew. I laughed.
An SRA player stood over his tee shot at Stranraer Golf Club for what seemed like an eternity, looking up, looking down, measuring the distance, figuring the wind direction and speed in the middle of Storm Eowyn..... in short, driving his partner nuts.
Finally, his exasperated partner says, "What the hell is taking so long? Hit the damm ball!"
The player answers, "My wife is up there watching me from the clubhouse. I want to make this a perfect shot."
His partner yells back, "Give me a break! You don't stand a chance of hitting her from here in this storm."
Only six entries thus far...
Bournemouth 3-1 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 2-0 West Ham
Brighton 3-1 Everton
Crystal Palace 2-1 Brentford
Fulham 1-1 Man United
Liverpool 5-1 Ipswich Town
Man City 2-0 Chelsea
Southampton 1-1 Newcastle
Tottenham 3-1 Leicester City
Wolves 1-3 Arsenal
Bournemouth 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 2-1 West Ham
Brighton 3-0 Everton
Crystal Palace 1-1 Brentford
Fulham 1-2 Man United
Liverpool 4-0 Ipswich Town
Man City 2-2 Chelsea
Southampton 1-3 Newcastle
Tottenham 3-1 Leicester City
Wolves 1-2 Arsenal
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 1 - 1 West Ham
Brighton 3 - 1 Everton
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Brentford
Fulham 1 - 1 Man. United
Liverpool 5 - 0 Ipswich Town
Man. City 2 - 1 Chelsea
Southampton 1 - 3 Newcastle
Tottenham 2 - 1 Leicester City
Wolves 1 - 4 Arsenal
Bournemouth 2 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 2 - 1 West Ham
Brighton 2 - 1 Everton
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Brentford
Fulham 2 - 0 Man. United
Liverpool 4 - 0 Ipswich Town
Man. City 1 - 1 Chelsea
Southampton 0 - 2 Newcastle
Tottenham 2 - 0 Leicester City
Wolves 1 - 2 Arsenal
Here we go
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 2 - 0 West Ham
Brighton 2 - 0 Everton
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Brentford
Fulham 2 - 1 Man. United
Liverpool 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Man. City 2 - 1 Chelsea
Southampton 0 - 2 Newcastle
Tottenham 2 - 0 Leicester City
Wolves 0 - 2 Arsenal
I saw stats Bayern Munich had 80% possession.
And 30 (thirty) shots.
Great night for Feyenoord.
β½οΈβ½οΈβ½οΈ
Being the Feyenoord fan I am, I still can't fully grasp what happened tonight.
A briliant Scotch later I realize that my battered / injured club just beat Bauern Munich with 3-0.
So many shots by Bayern but we scored the goal.
Having a bizarre draw with Leverkusen, Man City, Benfica and Bayern, we managed to make it (at least) to the next round. With or wirhout in between knock out stage.
I will poor another one for me and my sons..
In case you wonder wht I am drinking. A 12 yr ol Tobermorey
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 14:
Hamilton Accies - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (DWw)
Arbroath - MVP #3: 1 TP (dwW)
East Fife’s Saturday started with a visit to Peterhead, always though rivals. We have the problem this season of bringing an apprentice keeper into the game, and we decided to give him some experience in the first half of this match, stalling to give him maximum protection. Thank goodness we stalled, or we might have been more than 2-0 down after 14 minutes. Not a good start, but things improved. We held the scoreline at 2-0 until half time, when we subbed Matty Rollo and switched to Normal tactics. And we pulled a goal back on 56 minutes, through Keiran Millar, who also netted the equalised with 20 minutes to go. Keiran is on great form this season, this being is fourth goal. It finished 2-2, a little lucky for us, perhaps.
Next up, Hibernian came to Bayview. They have got off to a cracking start this season, seven wins from seven, so we knew this would be difficult. But we were set on our way nicely with a second minute penalty. Scott Shepherd (pictured) was fouled in the box, and got up to slot home the penalty with great confidence. We were looking good here, and two further goals (Alan Trouten and Scott Shepherd again) gave us a convincing 3-0 win.
These four points move us up to 6th in the table, the minimum we are hoping for this season.
Nice to see some real life (and club legends) named within Sesl rosters.
The 0/9 DF bought in the last auction is named after QOS great Billy Houliston
Small mistake from my side. I put his name down as a defender, as it appears to have been a striker.
Anyhow, this is what I found on Wikipedia:
Known for his commanding presence and fearless tackles, Houliston was a cornerstone of the Doonhamers' defense between 1945 and 1952. Representing Scotland three times, his leadership extended beyond the pitch, later serving as a director and chairman of the club. Honored with a statue outside Palmerston Park in 2019, Billy remains an enduring figure in QOS history.
[source: Wikipedia]
Ties 7 and 8 feature 4 goood teams and the winners of these ties will play off in the Quarter Final. That will throw up an exciting clash too (don't know if either will win the Cup - I just wonder about the ELs whilst putting forward competitive line ups.
I don't care - we went out to Dunfermline - knowing itwas likely MOT was the next opponents, followed by probably HEA, then possibly ARB - didn't go any further. So we exited quietly and sorted out ELs for the opening league matches.. :-)
Evidently David can see into the future...but then why isn't he winning the Prediction League?
Is that commonly known as Cup Final David?
Or did you mean something else? Sorry if I'm being daft.
The last 2 ties in the CECIL Cup pair the winners - tasty!!
I'll pay what I think is right for my team at this stage of the season. :-)
There's a number of considerations but as things stand I'll take my chances at auction rather than drive up the price of trading TP.
That beind said if anyone has TP they went to sell for 95k I might be tempted.
ALO sends 1 TP to RAN for 90k
I have to agree.....prices for recources have become somewhat inflated....to the extreme.
The auction prices are almost realistic but the prices being asked on the trade boards are seriously GREEDY.
Selling at auction - and in trades - at 100k a pop at least roughly for CP & TP.
Good luck to the teams on trade list offering 85k and 87k for TP.
If you need TP, then just pay the going rate.
If 10k or 15k more than you prefer to pay remember a couple of blogs for a couple of weeks will finance the difference.
I have mnagers haggling over 5 or 10k this season in trade talk.
I don't get it.
Well, I DO get it - the higher value I shall get.
As season goes on the resources price is only going to increase as managers get desperate to max out those age 0's!
SRA well pleased with their Auction aquisitions this time............NONE
Just how high has one got to bid to get resources this season in Sesl.
Jesus wept.
Two-thirds of SESL are bidding on auction today.
Is that some sort of record?
AUCTION #3
Deadline: Sun, Jan 19: 1930
32 teams participating
Auction 3 LOT Previously Paid (PP) 1. 5/23 FW PP 206-334 k 2. 4/20 MF PP 351-436 k 3. 3/19 GK PP 101-405 k 4. 2/18 DF PP 150-506 k 5. 1/16 MF PP 2-626 k 6. 0/10 WG PP 356-1109 k 7. 0/9 DF PP 202-1000 k 8. 0/8 SD PP 223-801 k 9. 0/7 FW PP 1-700 k
PP means Previously Paid
Denis Law certainly in top 10 Colin.
How about:-
Jimmy Greaves 350+ goals, Ryan Giggs, Paul Gascoigne, Ian Rush, George Best, or Gareth Bale with 5 Champions League winner trophy haul.
Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton, other Bobby's too maybe!
HIB sends 105k to DFA for 1 TP
DFA sends 2 TP to EF for 210k
Nobody expected the draw between Ross County and Edinburgh City but otherwise this wasn't too difficult a set of fixtures, with an average score of 4.92. Five managers scored seven points, so it's 20k each to Dan (Annan), Paul (East Fife), Tyron (East Sitrlingshire), Richard (Nairn) and Roy (Stirling).
It's a three-way tie for first place at this early stage but plenty of teams very much in the race.
Next Saturday, 25th, we are back to Divsion 1; I will post the fixtures on the Notebook shortly.
Prediction | AYR v QP | SM v KIL | STI v FAL | ROS v EDI | PT v DFA | FOR v COV | EST v BER | DUU v DEV |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 58% | 31% | 69% | 12% | 69% | 77% | 88% | 35% |
Away | 27% | 54% | 19% | 88% | 31% | 8% | 0% | 50% |
Draw | 15% | 15% | 12% | 0% | 0% | 15% | 12% | 15% |
Banker Count | 4% | 0% | 8% | 19% | 35% | 0% | 23% | 12% |
Result | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | Round 3 Scores | |||||
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 18 | East Fife | 7 | |
1 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 18 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | |
1 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 18 | Annan | 7 | |
4 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 17 | Stirling | 7 | |
4 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 17 | Nairn | 7 | |
4 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 17 | Arbroath | 6 | |
7 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 16 | Inverness | 6 | |
8 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 15 | Cowdenbeath | 6 | |
8 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 15 | Dundee FC | 6 | |
8 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 15 | Ayr United | 5 | |
8 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 15 | Livingston | 5 | |
8 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 15 | Queens Park | 5 | |
13 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 14 | St.Johnstone | 5 | |
13 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 14 | Partick Thistle | 5 | |
13 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 14 | Hearts | 5 | |
16 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 13 | Motherwell | 5 | |
16 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 13 | Elgin City | 5 | |
18 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 12 | Falkirk | 5 | ||
18 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 12 | Hibernian | 4 | |
18 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 12 | Forfar | 4 | |
21 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 11 | Queen of the South | 4 | |
22 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 10 | Stenhousenuir | 3 | |
22 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 10 | Edinburgh | 3 | ||
22 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 10 | Ross County | 3 | ||
25 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 8 | Alloa | 3 | ||
26 | Ayr United | 5 | 5 | Deveronvale | 2 | |||
27 | Dunfermline | 4 | 4 | |||||
27 | Forfar | 4 | 4 | |||||
29 | Albion | 3 | 3 | |||||
29 | Brechin City | 3 | 3 | |||||
6.16 | 3.36 | 4.92 |
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 3 18/1/25:
ANN(20) EF(20) EST(20) NAI(20) STI(20)
Nobody expected the draw between Ross County and Edinburgh City but otherwise this wasn't too difficult a set of fixtures, with an average score of 4.92. Five managers scored seven points, so it's 20k each to Dan (Annan), Paul (East Fife), Tyron (East Sitrlingshire), Richard (Nairn) and Roy (Stirling).
It's a three-way tie for first place at this early stage but plenty of teams very much in the race.
Next Saturday, 25th, we are back to Divsion 1; I will post the fixtures on the Notebook shortly.
Prediction | AYR v QP | SM v KIL | STI v FAL | ROS v EDI | PT v DFA | FOR v COV | EST v BER | DUU v DEV |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 58% | 31% | 69% | 12% | 69% | 77% | 88% | 35% |
Away | 27% | 54% | 19% | 88% | 31% | 8% | 0% | 50% |
Draw | 15% | 15% | 12% | 0% | 0% | 15% | 12% | 15% |
Banker Count | 4% | 0% | 8% | 19% | 35% | 0% | 23% | 12% |
Result | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | D3 12 | Round 3 Scores | |||||
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | R3 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 7 | 18 | East Fife | 7 | |
1 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 7 | 18 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | |
1 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 7 | 18 | Annan | 7 | |
4 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 6 | 17 | Stirling | 7 | |
4 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 6 | 17 | Nairn | 7 | |
4 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 7 | 17 | Arbroath | 6 | |
7 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 6 | 16 | Inverness | 6 | |
8 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 7 | 15 | Cowdenbeath | 6 | |
8 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 5 | 15 | Dundee FC | 6 | |
8 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 5 | 15 | Ayr United | 5 | |
8 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 5 | 15 | Livingston | 5 | |
8 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 3 | 15 | Queens Park | 5 | |
13 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 5 | 14 | St.Johnstone | 5 | |
13 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 6 | 14 | Partick Thistle | 5 | |
13 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 5 | 14 | Hearts | 5 | |
16 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 3 | 13 | Motherwell | 5 | |
16 | Hibernian | 6 | 3 | 4 | 13 | Elgin City | 5 | |
18 | Livingston | 7 | 5 | 12 | Falkirk | 5 | ||
18 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 4 | 12 | Hibernian | 4 | |
18 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 3 | 12 | Forfar | 4 | |
21 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 3 | 11 | Queen of the South | 4 | |
22 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 2 | 10 | Stenhousenuir | 3 | |
22 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | 10 | Edinburgh | 3 | ||
22 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | 10 | Ross County | 3 | ||
25 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 8 | Alloa | 3 | ||
26 | Ayr United | 5 | 5 | Deveronvale | 2 | |||
27 | Dunfermline | 4 | 4 | |||||
27 | Forfar | 4 | 4 | |||||
29 | Albion | 3 | 3 | |||||
29 | Brechin City | 3 | 3 | |||||
6.16 | 3.36 | 4.92 |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 13:
Hearts - MVP #3: 1 TP (wDW)
Inverness - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Elgin City - MVP #3: 1 TP (dWw)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 12:
Stranraer - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Www)
Dundee FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DWW)
Aberdeen - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Annan Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wDw)
Edinburgh City - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
TBH Colin, I don't think so. I would think a POLL could be had to seek SESL managers idea of the greatest British footballer of all time, but it will always be contentious.
Remember the hype over Beckham? A nice lad with a great right foot for crossing and taking free kicks, but had no left foot, couldn't header, couldn't tackle and only made his mark on occasions. I prefer a midfielder/defender who can win the ball, pass it, tackle and on occasions score when the forwards are having an off day. Let me think on it... :-)
Sad to read of the passing of a footballing great Denis Law.
The only Scotsman ever to win Ballon d'Or as best European footballer at the time.
The Law Man is up there with Kenny Dalglish & Greame Souness as greatest Scottish footballers.
Brave to have signed for an Italian team in early1960's when British players weren't as brave to move abroad back then.
Played for both Manchester City and Manchester United that I would guess it quite rare.
No worries chaps.
Despite losing first goal to the plucky Brechiners, it was all right on the night for Hearts.
As you were gentleman.
INV sends 210k to DEV for 2 TP
Thanks for responses.
My form is: L W L W L W L W
Oddly the last 2 wins are both away from home.
I will try dip toe in water and try extended home bonus in a couple of weeks time.
I'd think the effect ought be higher so home field team has a greater advantage.
Seems a bit more comfortable just now in BRE v HEA.
60 minutes played anyway.
Dave, you don't want to be looking at this, right now (8:22pm)
Scottish FA cup clash sees Brechin take on top division Hearts right now...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/cx2p5ll9n65t
.....are you sure that score is not my combined total for the season?? Well chuffed! Eat that AI!
Huge win for Andrew McCumiskey with 19 points. I cant recall anyone else ever scoring so many.
Andrew McCumiskey 19.0
Andy Shaw 13.0
Andrew Foss Grant 13.0
Paul Roseblade 12.0
Bryce Kalmbach 12.0
Paul Cockyne 10.5
Simon Bijker 10.5
Alon Atie 10.5
Dave Smyth 9.5
David Blair 8.0
No predictions for gameweek 22 as the turnaround is just too tight but predictions will be back next week for gameweek 23.
We are in Division 3 tomorrow, only seven entries so far....
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Jan 12th:
ALO(25) ANN(50) ARB(10) AYR(10) BRE(10) COV(25) DEE(30) EF(50) EDI(45) FAL(40) FRA(35) HEA(10) HIB(50) LIV(15) MOT(40) NAI(10) PT(20) QOS(20) QP(15) ROS(20) STJ(20) SRA(35)
I kinda like the stats.
A factor is maybe teams who are still in cup than those not. So maybe a league game is rested (junked) to concentrate on following mid week cup match for a few?
Team | xP | Pt | Luck | Junk |
HEA | 6,1 | 12 | 5,9 | 1 |
ARB | 12,8 | 18 | 5,2 | 1 |
CLY | 7,5 | 12 | 4,5 | 1 |
STE | 6,1 | 9 | 2,9 | 0 |
RR | 7,2 | 10 | 2,8 | 0 |
FRA | 8,7 | 10 | 1,3 | 0 |
HAM | 6,9 | 7 | 0,1 | 0 |
STJ | 3,1 | 3 | -0,1 | 1 |
COW | 10,1 | 10 | -0,1 | 0 |
SRA | 6,3 | 6 | -0,3 | 0 |
LIV | 4,8 | 4 | -0,8 | 1 |
DUM | 12,0 | 11 | -1,0 | 1 |
CB | 6,2 | 4 | -2,2 | 0 |
DEE | 9,8 | 7 | -2,8 | 1 |
MOT | 16,0 | 13 | -3,0 | 0 |
CEL | 8,0 | 3 | -5,0 | 0 |
HEA defend their lead - even if their zero pt session did reduce their luck to meager +5.9
ARB and CLY are closing in, though.
At the end the DEEs remain solid 14th. Below them only MOT and CEL are found.
The xP ranking sees Motherwell clearly in the lead with 16.0
Last placed STJ (3.1) looks like in trouble, despite their only (unlikely) win at Dundee.
The clever management trophy remains wide open. No junk score above 1, yet.
The RSPCA were called when three top Stranraer players were seen playing football with some hedgehogs, however by the time they arrived the Hedgehogs were winning 3-0.
It isn't much at lower home bonuses, and is more effective in Division 3 than 1 on average because SLs are lower there.
But spend 80k and you increase OFF and DEF by 25 which might be crucial every now and then.
EST now upgraded ..
D1 - COW
D2 - INV & AI
D3 – EST, FAL & EDI
Does home field give a tangible benefit for the Home field team?
Of course it does. It's quite simple to calculate.
25 more SL on the pitch do count - just as each additional SL at players count.
"Usually" the latter is the better way to spend your cash.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 11:
Arbroath - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Does home field give a tangible benefit for the Home field team?
I've never paid extra for additional Home Bonus. Does it give an extra shot or two if pay 80k for maximum Home bonus?
Payiing extra for Home Bomus seems not worth the cost?
Done Kev π ...
D1 - COW
D2 - INV & AI
D3 – EST, FAL & EDI
Minutes to spare I think
Arsenal 2-1 Tottenham
Brentford 1-4 Man City
Everton 0-2 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 0-2 Brighton
Leicester City 0-1 Crystal Palace
Nottingham Forest 1-3 Liverpool
West Ham 1-1 Fulham
Chelsea 2-1 Bournemouth
Newcastle 3-1 Wolves
Man United 3-0 Southampton
Thanks guys!
Can I upgrade my keeper please?
EF sends 315k to DEV for 3 TP
COW, FAL & EDI have used their upgrades ....
D1 - COW
D2 - INV & AI
D3 – EST, FAL & EDI
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through superstar apprentice random draw:
ANN(100) EF(50)
A nice little bonus.
Please upgrade Gilmour.
Thanks
This has again been kind to Cowdenbeath.
We will put to use right away.
EF sends 115k to EDI for 1 CP
Only suggesting but your offer to supply 2 keepers around MSA might be better under "Fir Sale" and not under "Wanted". Good luck with them.. π°π°ππ
Can't be helped Daniel, but an improved apprentice would have been good. Just have to train my lad up from the ground floor instead. π
The wheel of names spun across all three divisions & the following teams have won a SuperStar Upgrade, thanks to Paul (EF) who turned up to make it valid (David (HIB) tried but IT said NO L, 50K will be awarded by Mark when possible :-) :
D1 - COW
D2 - INV & AI
D3 – EST, FAL & EDI
Congrats to the winners ... as a reminder, the upgrade works as follows, please inbox me with your upgrade request & I will look to sort asap ... also, as mentioned if you have an age 0 and have already added some TP then the extra 5 SL can be added to these players too.
Good luck all!
Thanks, Dan.
Oh no ... link worked for Paul & I, maybe Mark can also payout for you trying !
Sadly, HIB did not win either so you didn't miss anything important ... full results to follow :-)
Tried on a few occasions but it wouldn't let me in- "invalid login" - writing now. Please be kind in the draw - team name is Hibernian. ππ
:-)
LIVE NOW if you're online !!
LIVE DRAW will be held this Sunday (12th Jan) at 7.30 PM (GMT) via teams
MEETING LINK: Super Star Draw | Microsoft Teams | Meetup-Join
... the incentive to attend the LIVE is draw will be $50 k for your team :-)
Reminder the draw will run & the age 0 player upgrade is as follows (no change from previous 2 seasons) ... again it slants in favour D3>D2>D1 teams based on previous manager comments:
I usually do a dry March, in fact. People ask me why I choose a 31-day month to suffer through but I point out that March is actually an hour shorter than most 31-day months, and a full two hours shorter than October.
I usually do a dry March, in fact. People ask me why I choose a 31-day month to suffer through but I point out that March is actually an hour shorter than most 31-day months, and a full two hours shorter than October.
That's too bad Paul. You'll have to ignore dry Feb instead, at least that's only 28 days.
Oh, i there a dry January thing going on? Sadly, I didn't know about it, or I would have ignored it...
DRY JANUARY started really well here in Eastbourne as i stayed in on New Years eve and had an early night.
Sadly it has gone somewhat downhill from New Yeays day lunchtime onwards......Oops.
Thanks Mark.
For the record, Mr A Seltzer undid the rest of Glen's damage.
PS How is Dry January going for everyone else?
ALB sends 70k to STE for Serb (1/8 MF)
SRA went from 4.13 down to 3.11 in just a few clicks. If only real life was so simple!
Tenuous link but we took a school trip to the Glenfiddich distillery many many moons ago. Would have been about 11 years old and its fair to say the experience was lost on the majority if not all of the class. 1 classmate in particular was left in tears.
The following teams receive retire for apprentices through :
AI(202) ALB(354) BRE(368) COV(358) COW(280) DEV(280) DUU(116) DFA(170) EF(210) ELG(279) FAL(660) FOR(459) HIB(669) KIL(128) NAI(336) PT(370) PET(180) QP(88) RR(277) ROS(324) SRA(166)
Consider it done.
An easy fix for me, no problem at all.
Mark, Please could you make my new apprentice (Gil Willingham) a defender instead of a goalkeeper.
(Misclick, I blame it on Mr. Glen Fiddich).
LIVE DRAW will be held this Sunday (12th Jan) at 7.30 PM (GMT) via teams
MEETING LINK: Super Star Draw | Microsoft Teams | Meetup-Join
... the incentive to attend the LIVE is draw will be $50 k for your team :-)
Reminder the draw will run & the age 0 player upgrade is as follows (no change from previous 2 seasons) ... again it slants in favour D3>D2>D1 teams based on previous manager comments:
D1 6 | D2 9 | |||
---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | Total |
1 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 12 |
2 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 11 |
2 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 11 |
2 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 11 |
2 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 11 |
2 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 11 |
7 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 10 |
7 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 10 |
7 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 10 |
7 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 10 |
7 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 10 |
7 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 10 |
13 | Falkirk | 6 | 3 | 9 |
13 | Hibs | 6 | 3 | 9 |
13 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 9 |
13 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 9 |
17 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 8 |
17 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 8 |
17 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 8 |
17 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 8 |
17 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 8 |
17 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 8 |
23 | Livingston | 7 | 7 | |
24 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | |
24 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | |
26 | Dunfermline | 4 | 4 | |
27 | Albion | 3 | 3 | |
27 | Brechin City | 3 | 3 | |
6.16 | 3.36 |
Apologies, I gave your score to Forfar by mistake. Corrected table coming shortly....
Paul. Falkirk scored six in round one, missed off your total scores.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 10:
Dumbarton - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Rangers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Hibernian - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Twenty-five entrants again, for a very tough round with one result predicted by nobody, two predicted by just one person, and one by just two. The average score was just 3.36.
Two managers did manage to notch up five points, so congratulations to Cameron Archibald (ARB) and Richard Burnett (NAI) who get 50k each.
The next round is next Saturday, 18th January, when we will visit Division 3 for match 12. I will post on the Notebook shortly.
Trying to get clever with the formatting here, apologies if it's a mess. And please check your results carefully.
Prediction | ABE v GM | INV v EF | NAI v ANN | QOS v ALB | RAN v AI | PET v ALO | MON v BRE | HIB v ELG |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 8% | 40% | 72% | 24% | 64% | 72% | 12% | 88% |
Away | 88% | 20% | 4% | 72% | 20% | 0% | 88% | 8% |
Draw | 4% | 40% | 24% | 4% | 16% | 28% | 0% | 4% |
Banker Count | 36% | 4% | 0% | 4% | 4% | 12% | 8% | 28% |
Result | 1 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | Round 2 Scores | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 12 | Arbroath | 5 | |
2 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 11 | Nairn | 5 | |
2 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 11 | Alloa | 4 | |
2 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 11 | Cowdenbeath | 4 | |
2 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 11 | Deveronvale | 4 | |
2 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 11 | Dunfermline | 4 | |
7 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 10 | East Stirlingshire | 4 | |
7 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 10 | Edinburgh | 4 | |
7 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 10 | St Johnstone | 4 | |
7 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 10 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | |
7 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 10 | Albion | 3 | |
7 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 10 | Annan | 3 | |
13 | Hibs | 6 | 3 | 9 | Brechin City | 3 | |
13 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 9 | Dundee FC | 3 | |
13 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 9 | East Fife | 3 | |
16 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 8 | Falkirk | 3 | |
16 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 8 | Hearts | 3 | |
16 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 8 | Hibs | 3 | |
16 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 8 | Inverness | 3 | |
16 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 8 | Queen of the South | 3 | |
16 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 8 | Queens Park | 3 | |
22 | Livingston | 7 | 7 | Stirling | 3 | ||
23 | Forfar | 6 | 6 | Stranraer | 3 | ||
24 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | Ross County | 2 | ||
24 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | Motherwell | 1 | ||
26 | Dunfermline | 4 | 4 | ||||
27 | Albion | 3 | 3 | ||||
27 | Brechin City | 3 | 3 | ||||
27 | Falkirk | 3 | 3 | ||||
Average | 6.16 | 3.36 |
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 2 11/1/25:
ARB(50) NAI(50)
Twenty-five entrants again, for a very tough round with one result predicted by nobody, two predicted by just one person, and one by just two. The average score was just 3.36.
Two managers did manage to notch up five points, so congratulations to Cameron Archibald (ARB) and Richard Burnett (NAI) who get 50k each.
The next round is next Saturday, 18th January, when we will visit Division 3 for match 12. I will post on the Notebook shortly.
Trying to get clever with the formatting here, apologies if it's a mess. And please check your results carefully.
Prediction | ABE v GM | INV v EF | NAI v ANN | QOS v ALB | RAN v AI | PET v ALO | MON v BRE | HIB v ELG |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 8% | 40% | 72% | 24% | 64% | 72% | 12% | 88% |
Away | 88% | 20% | 4% | 72% | 20% | 0% | 88% | 8% |
Draw | 4% | 40% | 24% | 4% | 16% | 28% | 0% | 4% |
Banker Count | 36% | 4% | 0% | 4% | 4% | 12% | 8% | 28% |
Result | 1 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 |
D1 6 | D2 9 | Round 2 Scores | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Pos | Team | R1 | R2 | Total | Team | Points | |
1 | Stenhousemuir | 8 | 4 | 12 | Arbroath | 5 | |
2 | Arbroath | 6 | 5 | 11 | Nairn | 5 | |
2 | Cowdenbeath | 7 | 4 | 11 | Alloa | 4 | |
2 | East Fife | 8 | 3 | 11 | Cowdenbeath | 4 | |
2 | East Stirlingshire | 7 | 4 | 11 | Deveronvale | 4 | |
2 | Stirling | 8 | 3 | 11 | Dunfermline | 4 | |
7 | Edinburgh | 6 | 4 | 10 | East Stirlingshire | 4 | |
7 | Hearts | 7 | 3 | 10 | Edinburgh | 4 | |
7 | Nairn | 5 | 5 | 10 | St Johnstone | 4 | |
7 | Queens Park | 7 | 3 | 10 | Stenhousemuir | 4 | |
7 | Dundee FC | 7 | 3 | 10 | Albion | 3 | |
7 | St.Johnstone | 6 | 4 | 10 | Annan | 3 | |
13 | Hibs | 6 | 3 | 9 | Brechin City | 3 | |
13 | Motherwell | 8 | 1 | 9 | Dundee FC | 3 | |
13 | Ross County | 7 | 2 | 9 | East Fife | 3 | |
16 | Alloa | 4 | 4 | 8 | Falkirk | 3 | |
16 | Annan | 5 | 3 | 8 | Hearts | 3 | |
16 | Deveronvale | 4 | 4 | 8 | Hibs | 3 | |
16 | Inverness | 5 | 3 | 8 | Inverness | 3 | |
16 | Stranraer | 5 | 3 | 8 | Queen of the South | 3 | |
16 | Queen of the South | 5 | 3 | 8 | Queens Park | 3 | |
22 | Livingston | 7 | 7 | Stirling | 3 | ||
23 | Forfar | 6 | 6 | Stranraer | 3 | ||
24 | Elgin City | 5 | 5 | Ross County | 2 | ||
24 | Partick Thistle | 5 | 5 | Motherwell | 1 | ||
26 | Dunfermline | 4 | 4 | ||||
27 | Albion | 3 | 3 | ||||
27 | Brechin City | 3 | 3 | ||||
27 | Falkirk | 3 | 3 | ||||
Average | 6.16 | 3.36 |
A quick look and I think my max is 3, and it is MY division.. :-)
A quick scan and I may have gotten a score of 1 π΅π«
Never was too good with div. 2
I've only checked two Div2 matches so far, but both are coupon busters!
Teams checked start with letter A. One match had no one predicting it , and other match had just 2 entries getting in right.
Crazy.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 9:
Clyde FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Brechin City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Dunfermline Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWW)
Deveronvale - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wdW)
Dundee United - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wDW)
Arsenal 2 - 1 Tottenham
Brentford 1 - 3 Man. City
Everton 1 - 3 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 Brighton
Leicester City 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Liverpool
West Ham 2 - 1 Fulham
Chelsea 3 - 1 Bournemouth
Newcastle 4 - 0 Wolves
Man. United 3 - 0 Southampton
Converting oldies for cash towards apprentices:-
happening 11th January - for cash towards apprentice
happening 19th February - for cash ONLY
1. this will be offered on 2 occasions in season 58
happening after match 10 and again after match 27 after MSA when no apprentice needs bought.
2. only players SL12 or less can be cashed in for apprentices
3. managers will retire players themselves and recruit apprentices themselves
Managers will post on Notebook before match 10 and again before match 28 if they wish.
Detailling the players and value of retiree's with a total.
Commish will add cash in full of the players being retired on the Saturday of match 10 and after match 28.
Unlimited cash is on offer, and any excess cash in value funds are earned by the team.
Any short fall, is paid automatically when apprentice is bought by each manager.
Again this season: after match 28 there is no requirement to buy an apprentice as just a straight cash-in.
any player age 4+ with SL12 or less is eligable to be cashed in.
Age 4 players at 15k per SL
Age 5 players at 12k per SL
Age 6 players at 10k per SL
Age 7+ players at 8k per SL
Arsenal 2 - 0 Tottenham
Brentford 1 - 1 Man. City
Everton 0 - 2 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Brighton
Leicester City 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Nottingham Forest 0 - 2 Liverpool
West Ham 1 - 1 Fulham
Chelsea 3 - 1 Bournemouth
Newcastle 2 - 0 Wolves
Man. United 3 - 1 Southampton
ROS sends Ross Laidlaw (5/16 GK) to MOT for Flynn Foster (5/16 MF)
Hardly an experiment, I've been doing it for several seasons now but unfortunately it failed last season as I didn't have a decent FW or any MAs, and the MFs that were getting the shots just weren't good enough to score when it mattered. And the MFs I have are getting a bit old.
Havinng said that Alloa are 2 for 2 when I've played Ball Control.
I haven't decided yet whether to get OTF back up to 10, more a case of saving cash by not using extra slots for now.
We have a wonderful total of eight entries so far.
24 hours to kick-off....
... is quite apparently dropping the BC experiment in favour of E.
Not only buying a star WG, but even no OTF training so far.
How disappointing.
FOR sends 128k to ARB for Max Verstappen (1/10 MF)
Arsenal 1 - 0 Tottenham
Brentford 1 - 4 Man. City
Everton 0 - 3 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Brighton
Leicester City 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Nottingham Forest 1 - 3 Liverpool
West Ham 1 - 0 Fulham
Chelsea 2 - 9 Bournemouth
Newcastle 3 - 0 Wolves
Man. United 3 - 0 Southampton
Arsenal 2-1 Tottenham
Brentford 1-3 Man City
Everton 1-2 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 1-2 Brighton
Leicester City 0-2 Crystal Palace
Nottingham Forest 1-3 Liverpool
West Ham 0-2 Fulham
Chelsea 2-0 Bournemouth
Newcastle 2-0 Wolves
Man United 2-1 Southampton
Arsenal 3-0 Tottenham
Brentford 1-3 Man City
Everton 2-1 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 2-1 Brighton
Leicester City 0-0 Crystal Palace
Nottingham Forest 2-2 Liverpool
West Ham 2-0 Fulham
Chelsea 3-1 Bournemouth
Newcastle 2-0 Wolves
Man United 2-0 Southampton
Arsenal 2-1 Tottenham
Brentford 2-2 Man City
Everton 1-1 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 1-1 Brighton
Leicester City 1-2 Crystal Palace
Nottingham Forest 0-2 Liverpool
West Ham 1-0 Fulham
Chelsea 3-1 Bournemouth
Newcastle 3-0 Wolves
Man United 2-1 Southampton
Arsenal 2 - 0 Tottenham
Brentford 1 - 1 Man. City
Everton 0 - 2 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Brighton
Leicester City 1 - 3 Crystal Palace
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Liverpool
West Ham 1 - 0 Fulham
Chelsea 2 - 2 Bournemouth
Newcastle 3 - 0 Wolves
Man. United 3 - 0 Southampton
Don't forget it's Div 2 predictions for this Saturday. Only 4 entries so far...
Arsenal 2 - 1 Tottenham
Brentford 1 - 3 Man. City
Everton 0 - 2 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 Brighton
Leicester City 1 - 3 Crystal Palace
Nottingham Forest 1 - 3 Liverpool
West Ham 1 - 1 Fulham
Chelsea 2 - 0 Bournemouth
Newcastle 3 - 0 Wolves
Man. United 3 - 0 Southampton
These are for the gameweek being played between Tuesday and Thursday next week.
This weekend is reserved for the FA cup
Arsenal 2 - 0 Tottenham
Brentford 1 - 2 Man. City
Everton 0 - 1 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Brighton
Leicester City 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Nottingham Forest 1 - 2 Liverpool
West Ham 1 - 2 Fulham
Chelsea 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Newcastle 2 - 0 Wolves
Man. United 2 - 0 Southampton
HIB sends 40k, 6 CP to CLY for 7 TP
Thanks Raymond for the auction review. Always good to have one to get conversation going and also understand other manager's thinking which is helpful to learn.
Would push back a bit on our F grade. I totally understand your reasoning. But my reasoning would be 300 for the 3 TP to get a 0/5 to 0/8 anyway so base is 500 there instead of 200. Then it's what you value that extra 3 max skill level over an entire player's career. To me 250k doesn't seem too outrageous. My highest bid of 1000k would definitely have been a terrible deal I will admit (but we only had 874k anyway ;) ).
But the biggest thing I learned from the review was that "E" grades are a real thing on that side of the Atlantic.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 8:
Raith Rovers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dwW)
Hearts - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Edinburgh City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWW)
....his funnel will be held tomato.
Perhaps the most interesting aspect of ALO new purchase is that he is a winger.
ALO was traditionally a ball control team and they dont tend to buy wingers.
After the relegation is this indicating a change of tactics from the Steve.
Auction review was decent, and I think the writer was complimentary of the new ALO apprentice.
The star rating of E grade is maybe because it's highest price paid for a 0/8 WG since records began?
Groan (from a grown man too!)
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It was reported at the weekend that an unknown SRA star striker is addited to brake fluid. In a statement by the club they dismissed the seriousness of the matter and pointed out that he can stop anytime.
Alloa are very happy to pay 993k for a player that will be adding 70 OFF in a couple of seasons.
A tie for first place between Tyrones AI and Andrew Foss Grant.
Tyrone Barnard (AI) 10.0
Andrew Foss Grant 10.0
Alon Atie 9.5
Andrew McCumiskey 8.5
Paul Roseblade 8.0
Simon Bijker 6.5
Andy Shaw 5.5
Paul Cockyne 4.0
FA cup this weekend so premier league resumes next week
LIVE DRAW will be held this Sunday (12th Jan) at 7.30 PM (GMT) via teams
MEETING LINK: Super Star Draw | Microsoft Teams | Meetup-Join
... the incentive to attend the LIVE is draw will be $50 k for your team :-)
Reminder the draw will run & the age 0 player upgrade is as follows (no change from previous 2 seasons) ... again it slants in favour D3>D2>D1 teams based on previous manager comments:
KIL sends 50k to HEA for Ezri Konsa (2/8 DF)
Auction 2
LOT Previously Paid (PP)
1. 5/24 FW PP 251k-590k B rating. 510k a little high price, but early in season for CLY to get a lot of use out of.
2. 4/23 WG PP 333k-537k C rating. 501k higher than average, but lose a rating as why would CLY need EIGHT WG's.
3. 3/19 MF PP 201k-462k B rating. 378k an ok price as will get well used for majority of season, otherwise C deal.
4. 2/18 MF PP 190k-492k B rating. 401k an ok price for FRA and as lot 3 will be well used otherwise would lose a rating.
5. 1/15 MF PP 51k-626k C rating. Average mid-price by ELG for a very average player never going to grow to a star player.
6. 0/10 DF PP 450k-1112k D rating. over-priced for STE 1051k but will grow to be a monster player. C rating if a FW maybe.
7. 0/9 FW PP 322k-1100k D rating. 921k tad high price for ARB but Div 1 team find best value at auction rather than 400k for 0/5's.
8. 0/8 WG PP 102k-806k E rating. record high price paid 993k. ALO wont' care too much as 0/20 potential. ALO's 3rd attacker.
9. 0/8 MF PP 1k-810k F rating. bit high price for QP at 751k when 3SL less costs Div 3 just 200k.
Resources went for over 100k each.
Same as usual, so nothing to report really.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Jan 5th:
ALB(10) ANN(20) ARB(10) AYR(10) BRE(30) DEE(20) EF(50) EST(10) EDI(35) FAL(25) FRA(10) HEA(10) HIB(30) LIV(15) MOT(45) PT(30) QOS(10) ROS(40) SRA(20)
KIL sends 45k to STE for Bulgaria (3/8 DF)
Team | xP | Pt | Luck | Junk |
HEA | 5,3 | 12 | 6,7 | 1 |
ARB | 7,2 | 12 | 4,8 | 1 |
CLY | 2,7 | 6 | 3,3 | 0 |
RR | 6,4 | 9 | 2,6 | 0 |
STE | 4,8 | 6 | 1,2 | 0 |
FRA | 5,8 | 7 | 1,2 | 0 |
COW | 5,3 | 6 | 0,7 | 0 |
STJ | 2,9 | 3 | 0,1 | 1 |
HAM | 4,0 | 4 | 0,0 | 0 |
SRA | 3,4 | 3 | -0,4 | 0 |
LIV | 3,5 | 3 | -0,5 | 0 |
DUM | 8,0 | 7 | -1,0 | 0 |
MOT | 10,4 | 9 | -1,4 | 0 |
DEE | 6,9 | 4 | -2,9 | 0 |
CB | 3,3 | 0 | -3,3 | 0 |
CEL | 6,7 | 3 | -3,7 | 0 |
xP := expected points
Pt := actual points
Luck := Pt - xP
Junk := # junk lineups played against
The Hearts are on a real roll. They double down on their unimpressing 5.3 xP with a luck of +6.7!
And they even manage to get their only expected win all season with a 51% lineup - facing a 38% STJ.
Arbroath stays in striking distance with +4.8, though.
The other end sees Celtic -3.7 once more, even after a "lucky" week at +0.3.
Dundee is found in familiar territory, #14 luck at -2.9.
The clever management trophy is still early stages. HEA has an early lead again, even if shared.
I think auction participation must be at a higher level now when compared to my early seasons in SESL. I remember a couple 1k wins, but Dave is right that it seems a thing of the past.
Ross County are proud to announce the signing of experienced forward Liam Boyce from Hearts,coach rob stated he is just the experienced forward we were looking for and gives what we need upfront in our continued effort to get back to division 2,this just adds that little bit to our firepower that was lacking before,he will debut in our next game and will fit straight in.
I wonder if 1k auction wins skew the average price paid guide?
I had a glance and it appears it's been 12 seasons since the last auction apprentice went for 1k though.
Only 7 occurences of 1k auction wins - but I don't know how many season the stats go back.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Dec 29th:
ALO(10) BRE(15) DEE(45) DUU(25) EF(35) EDI(20) FAL(30) FOR(10) FRA(15) HIB(50) MOT(10) NAI(15) PT(50) QP(25) ROS(10) STJ(10) STE(50) SRA(20)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Dec 22nd:
ALO(10) ARB(10) DEE(35) EF(50) EST(10) EDI(40) FAL(20) FRA(45) HAM(15) HIB(50) LIV(10) MOT(50) NAI(30) QOS(5) RR(15) STJ(20) STE(10) SRA(20)
Ahead of tomorrow's auction 2, here are the prices previously paid at auctions in the past.
Lets see how things pan out.
Just needs 2 or 3 managers desperate for a certain player and value may hit the roof.
Auction 2 LOT Previously Paid (PP) 1. 5/24 FW PP 251k-590k 2. 4/23 WG PP 333k-537k 3. 3/19 MF PP 201k-462k 4. 2/18 MF PP 190k-492k 5. 1/15 MF PP 51k-626k 6. 0/10 DF PP 450k-1112k 7. 0/9 FW PP 322k-1100k 8. 0/8 WG PP 102k-806k 9. 0/8 MF PP 1k-810k
The following teams receive Prediction League through Prediction League Round 1 4/1/25:
EF(25) MOT(25) STE(25) STI(25)
Here are the first round results. Probably the formatting is going to be all over the place, but we'll see...
There were 25 entries which is a record for this season, and the first round proved not too difficult with an average score of 6.16, scores ranging from 4 to 8.
Four clubs managed to get 8 points, and share the 100k weekly prize. Well done to Stenhousemuir, East Fife, Stirling and Motherwell.
Next round is next Saturday, Division 2, match 9. I will post on Notebook shortly...
Prediction | ARB v COW | DUM v CEL | HAM v CB | LIV v CLY | RR v DEE | STE v FRA | STJ v HEA | SRA v MOT |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Home | 80% | 100% | 88% | 64% | 36% | 28% | 16% | 24% |
Away | 0% | 0% | 4% | 28% | 56% | 52% | 68% | 64% |
Draw | 20% | 0% | 8% | 8% | 8% | 20% | 16% | 12% |
Banker Count | 28% | 44% | 4% | 4% | 0% | 4% | 4% | 8% |
Leader Board.....
Team | Points |
---|---|
Stenhousemuir | 8 |
East Fife | 8 |
Stirling | 8 |
Motherwell | 8 |
Ross County | 7 |
Cowdenbeath | 7 |
East Stirlingshire | 7 |
Hearts | 7 |
Livingston | 7 |
Queens Park | 7 |
Dundee | 7 |
Edinburgh | 6 |
Hibernian | 6 |
Arbroath | 6 |
Falkirk | 6 |
St.Johnstone | 6 |
Partick Thistle | 5 |
Queen of the South | 5 |
Elgin City | 5 |
Stranraer | 5 |
Inverness | 5 |
Nairn County | 5 |
Annan | 5 |
Alloa Athletic | 4 |
Deveronvale | 4 |
ROS sends 3 CP to HEA for Liam Boyce (5/19 FW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 7:
East Fife - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WDw)
Albion Rovers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Elgin City - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Kilmarnock - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWD)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 6:
Hamilton Accies - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Greenock Morton - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Www)
Inverness - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Hibernian - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Ross County - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Maye the next time the first team can be different than the last time we provided the information.
I really was in the impression that I entered my scores as the new list also started with Bournemouth....
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Everton
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Leicester City
Brighton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Chelsea
Fulham 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 3 - 1 Man United
Man City 2 - 0 West Ham
Southampton 0 - 1 Brentford
Tottenham 3 - 1 Newcastle
Wolves 0 - 2 Nottingham Forest
it is FREE ... & as you are in D3 Raymond, you get 3 chances to win. Full details to follow.
Sounds intriguing.
Is it free to enter the superstar draw?
... will be happening again this season!
Will post more details over the weekend but the LIVE draw will be next Sunday 12th Jan 7.30 PM (GMT)
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Everton
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Leicester City
Brighton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Chelsea
Fulham 3 - 2 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 4 - 1 Man United
Man City 3 - 1 West Ham
Southampton 1 - 2 Brentford
Tottenham 2 - 3 Newcastle
Wolves 1 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Less than 24 hours to kick-off...16 entries so far...you've got to in it (and quite lucky) to win it....
Bournemouth 1 - 0 Everton
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Leicester City
Brighton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 0 - 2 Chelsea
Fulham 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 2 - 2 Man. United
Man. City 3 - 0 West Ham
Southampton 1 - 2 Brentford
Tottenham 1 - 1 Newcastle
Wolves 1 - 0 Nottingham Forest
for the support, I totally missed the item in the handbook.
Bournemouth 1 - 1 Everton
Aston Villa 3 - 1 Leicester City
Brighton 1 - 2 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Chelsea
Fulham 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 3 - 1 Man. United
Man. City 3 - 1 West Ham
Southampton 1 - 1 Brentford
Tottenham 2 - 2 Newcastle
Wolves 0 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Everton
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Leicester City
Brighton 0 - 2 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 0 - 4 Chelsea
Fulham 1 - 1 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 3 - 0 Man. United
Man. City 2 - 1 West Ham
Southampton 1 - 2 Brentford
Tottenham 2 - 4 Newcastle
Wolves 0 - 1 Nottingham Forest
SImon there is also info further below on front page.
Or click "Notebook" near top right of this page. Happening after match 10 on 11th January.
Rules are also really good as Andrew says.
summary:-
S58: Converting oldies for cash towards apprentices:-
happening 11th January - for cash towards apprentice
happening 19th February - for cash ONLY
- managers will retire players themselves and recruit apprentices themselves
(on the Sunday after match 10, and after mid season aging)
Managers will post on Notebook the week before match 10
Detailling the players and value of retiree's with a total.
any player age 4+ with SL12 or less is eligable to be cashed in.
Age 4 players at 15k per SL
Age 5 players at 12k per SL
Age 6 players at 10k per SL
Age 7+ players at 8k per SL
Bournemouth 1-1 Everton
Aston Villa 2-1 Leicester City
Brighton 0-2 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 1-3 Chelsea
Fulham 2-1 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 3-0 Man United
Man City 3-0 West Ham
Southampton 1-2 Brentford
Tottenham 2-1 Newcastle
Wolves 1-1 Nottingham Forest
.....see the orange link just above this post. All the rules are updated there.
Does anyone have a link, or can tell me the current ruling about the old players vs apprentices ?
Sorry for the spam.
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Everton
Aston Villa 3 - 0 Leicester City
Brighton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Chelsea
Fulham 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 3 - 0 Man. United
Man. City 2 - 1 West Ham
Southampton 1 - 3 Brentford
Tottenham 1 - 2 Newcastle
Wolves 1 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Don't forget!
Starts on Saturday!
Only ten entries so far!
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 5:
Fraserburgh - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Hearts - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Motherwell - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Arbroath - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
for a holiday time - only KIL & DFA missing from this afternoons games. (And isn't course the 16 of us who wanted the day off so list their 1st round ties. ππ
for a holiday time - only KIL & DFA missing from this afternoons games. (And isn't course the 16 of us who wanted the day off so list their 1st round ties. ππ
These are for the games starting on Saturday.
Tonights Arsenal game is still part of the previous gameweek.
Bournemouth 1 - 0 Everton
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Leicester City
Brighton 1 - 2 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Chelsea
Fulham 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Liverpool 2 - 0 Man. United
Man. City 2 - 0 West Ham
Southampton 1 - 1 Brentford
Tottenham 1 - 2 Newcastle
Wolves 1 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Everyone!
To all even at East Stirlingshire!
Happy new year all.
All the best to you and your family
Happy New year from all at Ross County
Best wishes to all
The following teams receive Team Sponsor Bid through winning bids.:
ALO(-1) ANN(-1) ARB(-73) AYR(-76) BRE(-1) COW(-112) DEE(-9) DUU(-102) EF(-88) EDI(-1) ELG(-154) FAL(-1) FOR(-1) FRA(-46) HEA(-46) HIB(-21) LIV(-1) NAI(-102) PT(-46) QOS(-78) QP(-22) RR(-6) ROS(-1) STJ(-56) STE(-112) SRA(-10)
NAI sends 125k to STE for Daley Blind (5/9 DF), Raptor (6/5 DF), Earl (7/4 MF)
The following teams receive team sponsor admin through :
DUU(50) PT(50) STE(50)
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through :
DUU(200) ELG(200)
BRE sends 275k to STE for 3 TP
See below for the Division 3 Sponsor result. Please check it as it is a manual process and mistakes can happen!!
Only 8 Teams bid, all 8 won something
Bank balance didn’t limit any bids.
Lot 7 & 9 go begging
Earn 100k in participation bonus default sponsor goes to BER, COV, DEV, DFA, EST, KIL, SM, STI
Lot | Sponsor | AYR | BER | COV | DEV | DUU | DFA | EST | EDI | FAL | FOR | KIL | PT | QP | ROS | SM | STI | Winner | Amount |
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 69 | FAL | 1 | |||||||||||||||
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 25 | 175 | 41 | 101 | DUU | 102 | ||||||||||||
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 41 | 69 | 45 | 101 | PT | 46 | ||||||||||||
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 101 | 99 | ROS | 1 | ||||||||||||||
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 91 | 126 | 31 | 59 | 31 | 101 | 75 | 77 | AYR | 76 | ||||||||
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 59 | 25 | 101 | FOR | 1 | |||||||||||||
7 | Have >=3 age 0 SL10+ last day season | ||||||||||||||||||
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 75 | 88 | 21 | 65 | 55 | QP | 22 | |||||||||||
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | ||||||||||||||||||
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | 80 | 89 | 21 | 34 | 70 | EDI | 1 | |||||||||||
Earn 100k in Participation Bonus |
HIB | ALB | ELG | QOS | EF | NAI | ANN | ALO | BRE | |||
1 | Team Goals > =60 | 123 | |||||||||
2 | 1 Player 4 MOM | 171 | |||||||||
3 | Top 6 Finish | 103 | |||||||||
4 | 3 Clean Sheets | 39 | |||||||||
5 | Unbeaten 3 | 125 | |||||||||
6 | Last 16 Cup | 77 | |||||||||
7 | 3 Age 0 SL10+ | 50 | |||||||||
8 | Team DP <=200 | 50 | |||||||||
9 | Have 10 OTF | ||||||||||
10 | Team Goals >= 20 |
1 | Team Goals >= 60 | NAI | 102 | |
2 | 1 Player 4 MOM | ELG | 154 | |
3 | Top 6 Finish | EF | 88 | |
4 | 3 Clean Sheets | HIB | 21 | |
5 | Unbeaten 3 | QOS | 78 | |
6 | Last 16 Cup | ANN | 1 | |
7 | 3 Age 0 SL10+ | BRE | 1 | |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | ALO | 1 | |
9 | Have 10 OTF | |||
10 | Team Goals >= 20 |
10 entries and everyone won one.
RR's entry is interesting seeing as they only have OTF=1 so need 18 of their 32 CP to make 194k profit.
Some low wins.
Oops, first time I've missed a sponsor auction. Had remembered there were no matches today and forgot I had another reason to log on!
QP sends Sepp Kuss (3/26 DF) to LIV for Jamie Brandon (2/23 MF)
A slightly easier week than the last few but a really quality performance from Andrew McCumiskey
Andrew McCumiskey 11.0
Simon Bijker 8.5
Andy Shaw 7.0
Alon Atie 6.5
Paul Cockyne 5.5
David Blair 4.0
There will be nopredictions for Gameweek 19 as it starts tomorrow which is just too soon a turnaround.
Auction was done manually, so human error is possible ofcourse.
Any blips or errors spotted please advise within 24 hours, or below shall be assumed correct.
Team finishing bottom of League Two goes into a play off against the winner of the Highland League / Lowland League play off. If they lost that play off then they'd end up in either the Highland League or Lowland League. Not sure what determines which league they end up in, Brechin ended up in the highland league when they finished bottom, Forfar would be geographically similar so may have the same fate.
Forfar played host to one of the best games I witnessed live. Nairn drew them in an early round of the Scottish cup a few years ago, they were likely in league one at that point so expected to walk over highland league Nairn. 3-0 at halftime the game was going with the expectations, but 45 minites later including a 90+ min equaliser from Nairn and it was a replay back at Station Park. Replay was tight again but finished 2-1 Forfar in the end i think, certainly wasnt as exciting at the first tie.
Hoping RL Forfar does not drop from Div 2 this season.
(What happens when a team is relegated from Scottish League 2?)
No - I've looked again - there are no games today. Probably as well, as I couldn't take any more excitement after Hibs finally beating Hearts (real football) and Pep realising he isn't God. Didn't get my real wish - for Rangers and Celtic to go bankrupt, have to release every player and start from scratch - now THAT would make for a better SPFL.. You can't have everything...ππ
In advance all SESL players have a good New Year.. ππ
Send up to 5 bids via team inbox please by Sat 28th December , 15:00
to the manager who is doing your division. 10 lots are available to bid on.
PT Raymond Div 1
DUU Mark Boland Div 2
STE Ricky Div 3
Any team not winning an auction lot will be allocated the back-up default lot for participation bonus.
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 400k | -- -- |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 400k | -- -- |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | -- -- |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 400k |
-- -- |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 300k | -- -- |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | -- -- |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | -- -- |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | -- -- |
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | 200k | -- -- |
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | 200k | -- -- |
Earn 100k in participation bonus Div 1: Div 2: Div 3: |
100k | default sponsor for all teams not winning a lot 1-10 |
4 Hours until the deadline!
We have 7 Teams bids in - AYR, DUU, EDI, FAL, PT, QP, ROS
So, still some real bargains to be had, if you can get yours in.
No - I've looked again - there are no games today. Probably as well, as I couldn't take any more excitement after Hibs finally beating Hearts (real football) and Pep realising he isn't God. Didn't get my real wish - for Rangers and Celtic to go bankrupt, have to release every player and start from scratch - now THAT would make for a better SPFL.. You can't have everything...ππ
In advance all SESL players have a good New Year.. ππ
Great work Ed.
PT management were quick to clarify that
"PT - xP := junk" was not associated with Partick Thistle :-)
Yet.
We all are victims of the dice, aren't we?
As some of you know, I've played EEFL-based games for some time.
One thing I liked about (most of) them was that not only the actual result was published, but also the expected result - calculated by running the match engine for e.g. 1000 times.
This way you at least knew when the rolls showed no mercy - or didn't care at all when the rolls were on your side.
Given that an in-engine sim would need some coding by Al, I have used some static calculations for xG and xP instead.
Furthermore, since I'm basically lazy, I've chosen just to use 3 kinds of expected results:
Thus, the main advantage is that many matches can be categorized at 1st sight - and therefore only few matches have to be analyzed en detail.
So, without further ado, this week's lucky guys in div 1 ...
Team | xP | Pt | Luck | Junk |
HEA | 2,4 | 6 | 3,6 | 0 |
ARB | 3,2 | 6 | 2,8 | 0 |
CLY | 0,8 | 3 | 2,2 | 0 |
STE | 0,8 | 3 | 2,2 | 0 |
MOT | 4,8 | 6 | 1,2 | 0 |
FRA | 2,9 | 4 | 1,1 | 0 |
RR | 2,4 | 3 | 0,6 | 0 |
DEE | 4,0 | 4 | 0,0 | 0 |
COW | 3,2 | 3 | -0,2 | 0 |
SRA | 3,2 | 3 | -0,2 | 0 |
HAM | 1,3 | 1 | -0,3 | 0 |
DUM | 4,8 | 4 | -0,8 | 0 |
LIV | 0,8 | 0 | -0,8 | 0 |
CB | 1,4 | 0 | -1,4 | 0 |
STJ | 2,7 | 0 | -2,7 | 0 |
CEL | 4,0 | 0 | -4,0 | 0 |
xP := expected points
Pt := actual points
Luck := Pt - xP
Junk := # junk lineups played against
The 4th column is to honor the most clever manager, who convinces his opponents to play crap against his team.
No surprise, that we haven't seen any junk in week 1. I expect this to change very soon.
CEL had a bad week at -4. HEA already enjoy a nice +3.6.
Dundee is actually the only team that landed spot on +0.0.
STE sends 371k to QOS for Paolo Maldini (4/21 DF)
6 bids so far
HIB, ALB, ELG, QOS, EF, NAI.
HIB sends 70k to FRA for Aubamayang (7/11 WG)
Bournemouth 1-0 Crystal Palace
Arsenal 4-0 Ipswich Town
Brighton 1-1 Brentford
Chelsea 2-1 Fulham
Liverpool 4-1 Leicester City
Man City 2-1 Everton
Newcastle 1-1 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 1-1 Tottenham
Southampton 0-2 West Ham
Wolves 2-1 Man United
Bournemouth 3 - 1 Crystal Palace
Arsenal 4 - 0 Ipswich Town
Brighton 1 - 1 Brentford
Chelsea 3 - 1 Fulham
Liverpool 5 - 1 Leicester City
Man. City 2 - 1 Everton
Newcastle 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Tottenham
Southampton 0 - 1 West Ham
Wolves 3 - 2 Man. United
Wishing you all a very merry Christmas from all at Ross County
Hope you all have a great day
Merry Christmas to all and hope your 2025 is a good one. ππ
Div 1 bids received thus far:
ARB HEA LIV STJ STE SRA
Send up to 5 bids via team inbox please by Sat 28th December , 15:00
to the manager who is doing your division. 10 lots are available to bid on.
PT Raymond Div 1
DUU Mark Boland Div 2
STE Ricky Div 3
Any team not winning an auction lot will be allocated the back-up default lot for participation bonus.
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 400k | -- -- |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 400k | -- -- |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | -- -- |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 400k |
-- -- |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 300k | -- -- |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | -- -- |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | -- -- |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | -- -- |
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | 200k | -- -- |
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | 200k | -- -- |
Earn 100k in participation bonus Div 1: Div 2: Div 3: |
100k | default sponsor for all teams not winning a lot 1-10 |
Festive frolics to all who celebrate.
I guess so Simon.
I not sure it should get more than 5 or 10k participation money as not really relevant in a Scottish football manager game.
Harmless fun though.
Is this open for everyone?
As previously posted, I am taking over running the Prediction League this season.
We start with the division 1 fixtures on January 4 (Match 6) and I have created a Notebook entry, so you can enter your predictions as soon as you like.
Have fun, and have a good Christmas!
STE sends 285k to ROS for Michee Efete (4/15 DF)
ALB sends 350k to MOT for 3 CP
STE sends 3 TP to FAL for 290k
HIB sends 60k to STE for Lewis Stevenson (4/5 MF)
Seasons Greetings and best wishes for 2025 from SRA.
May all your Xmas cracker jokes be better than mine.
"What's the best thing to put in a Christmas Cake?"
"Your Teeth"
STJ sends 3 TP to COW for 275k
STE sends 3 TP to COW for 280k
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Arsenal 4 - 1 Ipswich Town
Brighton 2 - 2 Brentford
Chelsea 3 - 0 Fulham
Liverpool 4 - 0 Leicester City
Man. City 3 - 1 Everton
Newcastle 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 2 - 2 Tottenham
Southampton 1 - 1 West Ham
Wolves 2 - 3 Man. United
PT sends 150k to STE for England (6/7 FW), Kye Rowles (7/5 DF), Bolivia (5/7 DM)
STE sends 165k, 1 TP to PT for Aidan Fitzpatrick (5/18 FW)
STJ sends 3 TP to PT for Graham Spiers (5/18 FW)
EDI sends Fraser Burns (2/19 DM) to DEE for 50k, 3 TP, Owen Beck (4/21 DF)
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Arsenal 3 - 1 Ipswich Town
Brighton 2 - 1 Brentford
Chelsea 3 - 1 Fulham
Liverpool 4 - 0 Leicester City
Man. City 1 - 1 Everton
Newcastle 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 1 - 0 Tottenham
Southampton 1 - 2 West Ham
Wolves 2 - 1 Man. United
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Arsenal 3 - 1 Ipswich Town
Brighton 2 - 2 Brentford
Chelsea 2 - 1 Fulham
Liverpool 5 - 1 Leicester City
Man. City 1 - 0 Everton
Newcastle 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Tottenham
Southampton 1 - 2 West Ham
Wolves 1 - 1 Man. United
This gameweek is played on Thursday and friday
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Arsenal 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Brighton 2 - 1 Brentford
Chelsea 2 - 0 Fulham
Liverpool 3 - 0 Leicester City
Man. City 2 - 0 Everton
Newcastle 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Tottenham
Southampton 1 - 2 West Ham
Wolves 1 - 2 Man. United
An almost impossible week to pick with the AI smashing the humans.
Tyrone Barnard (AI) 7
Alon Atie 3
David Blair 2
Paul Cockyne 2
Andy Shaw 1
Just two in so far
EDI & AYR
Send up to 5 bids via team inbox please by Sat 28th December , 15:00
to the manager who is doing your division. 10 lots are available to bid on.
PT Raymond Div 1
DUU Mark Boland Div 2
STE Ricky Div 3
Any team not winning an auction lot will be allocated the back-up default lot for participation bonus.
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 400k | -- -- |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 400k | -- -- |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | -- -- |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 400k |
-- -- |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 300k | -- -- |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | -- -- |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | -- -- |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | -- -- |
9 | Have 10 OTF at end of season | 200k | -- -- |
10 | Team league goals for >=25 | 200k | -- -- |
Earn 100k in participation bonus Div 1: Div 2: Div 3: |
100k | default sponsor for all teams not winning a lot 1-10 |
Auction 1 – my personal review – don’t shoot the messenger!!
LOT 1 Age 5/27 DF - worth around 650k – it went for over the odds as I decided Hibs needed him more than anybody else. Had to pay 821k to prise him away from Alan @ Cowdenbeath. He will be the main defender after SW Marinello. 21 teams bid on him, although Rangers had no chance of getting him π
LOT 2 Age 4/21 DF - East Fife nailed this lad for 526k - pipping Berwick Rangers. As he will be their 4th best defender he will likely be used well this season.
LOT 3 Age 3/20 FW – Partick Thistle got him for 445k – a few shekels over the value. He will be a 5th forward but as Thistle have 2 aged 5 lads up front who will suffer at MSA – this boy may well help plug a gap. Ayr United were the team they pipped at the post.
LOT 4 Age 2/14 MF – another snap up from East Fife – paying 205k but at least gives the Fifers a 4th midfielder and will give options to their tactics. Dundee United wanted this lad too – think the remaining clubs who bid were hoping for a fire sale here.
LOT 5 Age 1/12 MF – 4 teams bid on him, only 3 bids were counted and Dundee United secured him for a nice 124k. United have the TPs to train him up now so he could be doing a useful job later in the season for them.
LOT 6 Age 0/9 FW – now we are talking – He didn’t go for the 1,000k plus figure I suggested, but Stenhousemuir did fork out 926k for him. They obviously were determined to get him, initially offering 1101k – Peterhead ran them close, and 11 other clubs had credible offers in for him as well. Once TP’d up he will be a cracker later this season and certainly next.
LOT 7 Age 0/9 GK – Alloa Athletic tried manfully to get this one with a 999k bid, but with their initial offer being 1250k it was obvious St Johnstone were desperate to get a future 1st team keeper – I did predict a 4 figure sum here. Saints certainly need this lad trained up soonest – he will see matches this season for sure.
LOT 8 Age 0/6 MF – Rangers took this youngster for about the price of an apprentice and 1 TP so about par for the course. There were 10 other bids considered and they just pipped Stranraer to the laddie.
LOT 9 Age 0/6 SW – Stranraer again tried for this lad, but Livingston secured him for 477k – and he will be one for the future once trained. (I have a good SW otherwise I would have been in here too – and would have run Livvie close.)
LOT 10 8 CPs – went for 104+k each and Motherwell got them for 834k – but would have paid up to 115k each.
LOT 11 5 CP – Hearts paid 522k for them – again 104+k each but were prepared to pay 130k initially, so guessing CPs are still valuable at this stage.
LOT 12 TP (3) – 301k secured the 3 TPs – and Falkirk got them. Less clubs went for the TPs than for CPs – probably change after auction 2 as retirements kick in, and new apprentices join the clubs.
Who paid over the odds – Hibs (me) for sure – don’t care – he was MINE!! Best bargain price I think went to Livingston, who would have paid around 500k for his 0/6 SW, but overall I don’t think there was a “bargain” got anywhere.
Go to "Features" (top right), then "Player Search" and "Player Value Guide"
Is there a definitive list of what has been paid at auctions over last 5 seasons or more?
STE sends 3 TP to EDI for 270k
Have never made it to a match in Scotland, as I've never been to Scotland except for during the summer. So, have taken a tour of Hampden Park, but only been inside one other Scottish ground:
Had a couple hours free on a vacation one day and made a trip over to see Easter Road. Went into the gift shop to inquire about a tour, but was told they weren't doing any that summer due to stadium renovation. Was about to leave, but, due to my accent, the young man who I had talked to asked where I was from. After hearing I was in from Texas, he said that was an awful long way and that I should follow him. Snuck me into the ground and showed me around a bit, talking me through the work being done to the stadium. Wonderful human being - people like him are what make travel to friendly places like Scotland so worth it.
Just for some fun, I'll throw in for the remaining matches
Everton 0-1 Chelsea
Fulham 2-1 Southampton
Leicester City 2-2 Wolves
Man United 2-2 Bournemouth
Tottenham 1-3 Liverpool
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Dec 15th:
AI(10) ALO(10) ARB(10) COV(15) EF(40) EST(10) EDI(15) FAL(25) FRA(25) HEA(20) HIB(50) PT(10) ROS(20) STJ(20) SRA(20)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Dec 8th:
AI(15) ALO(30) ARB(10) BER(10) BRE(10) CLY(25) EF(40) EST(20) EDI(45) FAL(10) FRA(10) HEA(10) HIB(25) LIV(30) MOT(15) PET(5) STE(35) STI(20) SRA(25)
...will be done before the auction. Hopefully tonight. Want to make sure everyone has their account balances correct.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 4:
Deveronvale - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 3:
Elgin City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Nairn County - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Ayr United - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Dunfermline Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Falkirk - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Kilmarnock - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Saint Mirren - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through :
ALB(200) ALO(200) ANN(200) ARB(200) AYR(200) BRE(200) CLY(200) COW(200) DEV(200) DEE(200) EF(200) EDI(200) FAL(200) FRA(200) HAM(200) HEA(200) HIB(200) LIV(200) MOT(200) NAI(200) PT(200) PET(200) QOS(200) QP(200) ROS(200) STJ(200) SM(200) STE(200) SRA(200)
Admittedly, I've never visited any UK ground. Always busy otherwise at my visits.
I've showed up at quite a number of German grounds, though. Guess that's the advantage if your supported club moves around the divisions quite a bit.
I've also lived near (then div 2 side) Union Solingen's court some years, and paid them some visits. The club imploded shortly after.
The stadium though turned into one of Germany's more famous 'lost places' - with a shepherd and his flock being the only official visitors.
North of the Border Ibrox stands out. First visit there was for Ally McCoist's testimonial... absolutely cracking couple of (very drunken) days around Glasgow - and the atmosphere and noise, even though it was just a friendly ranks up with the best matchday experiences I've had.
Stranraer, Hearts and Berwick only grounds north (was planning on Celtic for a friendly but work commitments scuppered that one!)
Been to a load of grounds around England as used to follow Newcastle home and away. Love the away games...although generally involved quite a lot of drinking (when not on driving duties) and have had many great trips, mostly fantastic memories with only a couple of places being remembered for negative experiences (Stoke City being the worst as targeted violence like never experienced anywhere else, even being locked in a bar in Nottingham whilst place was being attacked with missiles and bottles flying didn't come close). I'll try and tot up the number of grounds visited - it'll be quite a few as number of seasons outside top flight.
Looking forward to a time when I can visit Wembley and watch Newcastle lift a trophy... in my lifetime hopefully!!
None in Scotland but in England Vicarage Road, Luton's ground, whatever that was called in about 1970, Maine Road, Old Trafford, City ground and County Ground in Nottingham, White Hart Lane, Highbury, The Den (mother who kindly took me not impressed by the blood) and loads of non-league grounds, many times to St Albans, Bracknell, Wokingham, Fleet, Winchester and others for away matches
Was more just meaning SESL grounds but as its opened up, i've also been to Hampden in Scotland. Majority of highland league and junior grounds in the north east. Down south ive been to the old White Hart Lane (x2) new Wembley, St James Park (x3) and the Stadium of Light. All visits were to watch Tottenham, Stoke on a Tuesday night was my first visit to the lane, little Luka Modric ran them ragged, other was a pre season friendly vs Athletic Bilbao. Wembley was when the new Spurs ground was getting built, champs league vs CSKA Moscow, high roller in the club Wembley seats. Newcastle / Sunderland fairly straight forward to get to from Aberdeen so done those a few times.
Can't get to 34 as James has, can only admit to Hibs, Hearts, Dunfermline Athletic, East Fife, Raith Rovers, Cowdenbeath, Arbroath, Airdrieonians, Hampden, Ross County, Brora Rangers, Aberdeen, Dundee and Dundee United, Livingston, Falkirk (old ground not their current one), Dumbarton, St Johnstone, and St Mirren. A couple of others are now in the Lowland league (East Stirlingshire eg). Prefer amateur or junior games now and watch highlights of the senior games on the computer. Too dear, too far, and no guarantee of getting my moneys worth. π€π€π€
Only three for me.
City Ground (Forest) loads of time between 1978 and 1979 and a few more after, Filbert Street (Leicester's old ground) four times and Meadow Lane (Notts County) once for a play-off game where Notts conceded the flukiest goal I've ever seen.
Apart from poking my nose into Raith Rovers Starks Parks closed gates I have never been inside a Scottish football ground. I am waiting for the day Watford make the UEFA conference league...
Been to plenty of grounds south of the border (34 teams I think, but some grounds are no longer there, like the Goldstone Ground in Brighton), but the furthest north is Elland Road. Two favourite away days were a play off game at Brimingham, where I have never heard an atmosphere so loud. And a University days trip to the Baseball ground and an against the walls 2-1 victory against Derby. And the least favourite two trips to Selhurst Park, a 0-0 where the officials were booed for holding up the additional time (it was the worst game of football), and a 5-0 drubbing. Both against Wimbledon. The latter enlivened by my friend declaring before the game as a Wimbledon fan that he had never seen them score 5 goals. (both teams went on to get relegated) I do remember them though!
I wanted to get on the party bandwagon this season and was genuinely intrigued as to how many SESL grounds folk bad been too. Its obviously very random that theres folk from all over the world cheering on the likes of Fraserburgh each week. I'm sure theres a big American actor (shiiiiiiiite man?) had a bit of an obsession with Stenhousemuir i think it is. Anyway, i've got a massive advantage over a lot of you and ive been to,
14 - Arbroath, Dundee, Fraserburgh, Hearts, Aberdeen, Elgin, Inverness, Nairn, Peterhead, Cove, Deveronvale, Dundee United, Forfar and Ross County.
Could have had another couple, Nairn played Clyde in the cup years ago but I didnt make it, also been meaning to go to Brechin now there in the highland league.
Last 32 | Last 16 | Qtr | Semi | Final |
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DEV v DUU | v |
? v ? | X v X | x vs x |
COV v NAI | ||||
RAN v GM | v |
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KIL v SRA | ||||
FRA v FAL | v |
? v ? | ||
ELG v LIV | ||||
QP v STE | v |
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SM v DUM | ||||
CEL v STI | v |
? v ? | X v X | |
AYR v CLY | ||||
STJ v DEE | v | |||
RR v COW | ||||
FOR v HEA | v | ? v ? | ||
MOT v DFA | ||||
ARB v EDI | v |
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HAM v CB |
The following teams receive Cup Draw Participation through :
DUU(25) STE(25)
Aston Villa 1 - 2 Man City
Brentford 2 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 0 - 2 Arsenal
Everton 0 - 1 Chelsea
Fulham 1 - 1 Southampton
Ipswich Town 0 - 2 Newcastle
Leicester City 1 - 2 Wolves
Man United 3 - 1 Bournemouth
Tottenham 1 - 3 Liverpool
West Ham 2 - 2 Brighton
Aston Villa 1-1 Man City
Brentford 2-1 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 0-3 Arsenal
Everton 0-2 Chelsea
Fulham 2-1 Southampton
Ipswich Town 1-1 Newcastle
Leicester City 1-1 Wolves
Man United 2-1 Bournemouth
Tottenham 1-2 Liverpool
West Ham 1-2 Brighton
EDI sends 180k to STE for 2 TP
Aston Villa 3-3 Man City
Brentford 3-1 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 1-3 Arsenal
Everton 1-4 Chelsea
Fulham 3-0 Southampton
Ipswich Town 1-1 Newcastle
Leicester City 0-0 Wolves
Man United 4-1 Bournemouth
Tottenham 1-2 Liverpool
West Ham 1-2 Brighton
Aston Villa 1-1 Man City
Brentford 3-2 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 0-3 Arsenal
Everton 1-2 Chelsea
Fulham 3-1 Southampton
Ipswich Town 1-1 Newcastle
Leicester City 2-0 Wolves
Man United 2-2 Bournemouth
Tottenham 1-1 Liverpool
West Ham 2-1 Brighton
Please check your inbox box if you can. π
Gameweek startts Saturday ,lunch time kickoff.
Aston Villa 1 - 2 Man. City
Brentford 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 0 - 2 Arsenal
Everton 0 - 2 Chelsea
Fulham 2 - 0 Southampton
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Newcastle
Leicester City 1 - 1 Wolves
Man. United 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Tottenham 1 - 2 Liverpool
West Ham 1 - 2 Brighton
A very difficult gameweek to predict-except for Andy Shaw
Andy Shaw 9.5
Dave Smyth 6.5
Paul Cockyne 6.5
Andrew McCumiskey 5.0
Tyrone Barnard(AI) 4.0
David Blair 3.5
Alon Atie 3.5
finally found some time to update the bio and about.
MF 2/23 available for trade. Older DF wanted.
I foolishly have two DF suspended for start of league season Saturday.
STE sends 47k, 1 TP to EF for Connor McManus (5/14 FW)
Thanks Dave.
It was an error on my part which i have managed to correct thanks to Ricky being understanding.
You would think that at my age i could count properly LoL
EDI sends 2 TP to STE for 180k
Remember offload 2 TP Bill.
ELG lost a CP few days ago as had over 50. HIB & EF both had to trade away a CP few days ago.
You get 24 hours buddy.
STE sends 5 TP to EDI for 450k
LIV sends Danny Wilson (2/22 DF) to HEA for James Prentice (1/19 DF)
FOR sends 152k to HEA for John Blackley (5/12 DF)
EDI sends 90k to STE for 1 TP
RR sends 50k, 1 TP, Brazil (3/26 MF) to ARB for Leighton McIntosh (4/28 FW), Gyles Marrett (5/12 SW)
AI would like to make it known that they do not in any way attach themselves to EST's predictions. Mainly because they have Spurs to win..........................
1 win and 2 last places. Its a tough life.
Bournemouth 1 - 2 West Ham
Arsenal 2 - 0 Everton
Brighton 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Chelsea 3 - 1 Brentford
Liverpool 4 - 1 Fulham
Man City 3 - 1 Man United
Newcastle 3 - 0 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 0 - 2 Aston Villa
Southampton 1 - 3 Tottenham
Wolves 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
I will be running the Prediction League this season, taking over from Alan, who has done a great job in recent seasons, for which thanks.
I do not plan any changes except that we will be starting a week later than usual, with the third league match which will be on January 4th.
Dates are expected to be
HIB sends 80k to FRA for Sergio Busquets (6/10 SW)
PET sends 3 TP to STJ for Cammy Ballantyne (6/18 MA)
STJ sends 8k to PT for John McGinn (8/1 MF)
I copy one of the other predictions in the Blog and go over them, adjusting where I disagree with the one copied - usually most of the predictions. Just so happened the previous one was in BOLD.
Mind you, there might be a payment for italics - looks good. Might just copy that next week....
Do you get a bonus posting a blog in bold text?
Bournemouth 1-1 West Ham
Arsenal 3-1 Everton
Brighton 2-2 Crystal Palace
Chelsea 4-2 Brentford
Liverpool 3-0 Fulham
Man City 2-0 Man United
Newcastle 4-1 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 0-1 Aston Villa
Southampton 0-2 Tottenham
Wolves 2-0 Ipswich Town
EPL predictions
Bournemouth 3-1 West Ham
Arsenal 3-1 Everton
Brighton 2-2 Crystal Palace
Chelsea 4-2 Brentford
Liverpool 3-0 Fulham
Man City 2-2 Man United
Newcastle 4-1 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 1-3 Aston Villa
Southampton 0-2 Tottenham
Wolves 2-0 Ipswich Town
Auction 1 Preview
(Don’t shoot the messenger – am just giving it as I see it – others will have made up their own minds on the lots offered.)
LOT 1 Age 5/27 DF good defender – would be into most club’s 1st team immediately, but I reckon only around a dozen clubs could afford him – before their gate income arrives. He won’t go cheap at this stage of the season. Worth around 650k…
LOT 2 Age 4/21 DF value around 367k and a lot of clubs could benefit from a full season here. Next season he will have slipped to around 5/13 so basically a season and then a reserve (Captain perhaps?) or a cashing in for an apprentice. He will make his presence known this season.
LOT 3 Age 3/20 FW valued around 400k and he should fetch a little more. Again a season and a reserve spot next season I reckon. Could boost up a few team’s attack, maybe not so much in the top division.
LOT 4 Age 2/14 MF valued on the list around 150k – think he could be a steal but CPs would need to be put onto him for the lad to even be a 3/19 next season.
LOT 5 Age 1/12 MF – A few Bosmans were this age and SLs – could be trained up quickly so likely to be bought by the 2 lower division teams as he isn’t an impact player, and more of the teams there will have the time to train him.
LOT 6 Age 0/9 FW – now we are talking – lad will be a 1/21 at the start of next season so will be keenly fought over. Not many clubs will have the cash to make a bid, but it will be interesting to see the results. Thinking he might go for 1,000k plus.
LOT 7 Age 0/9 GK – another player set for a quick training and then an unearthing next season as a 1/21. This boy will command a good price. Although quite a few teams already will have 2 capable keepers at the moment, this boy is for the future. A few teams will see this one as a necessity for the future – another 4 figure sum?
LOT 8 Age 0/6 MF – I never get excited about these lower SL age 0s, UNLESS I can get him for less than it would be if I just took on an apprentice (in my case here it would cost me 400k plus a TP to get to this lad). Others might see it differently. A chance of an early bargain here?
LOT 9 Age 0/6 SW – specific position – you either fancy him or you don’t. Certainly he will repay you if you persevere with him, train him, and then next season he can contribute to a few extra attacks – that is the hope!
LOT 10 and 11 (8 & 5) – 1 CP has already gone for 75k but realistically you would expect to average over 100k per CP to win either lot.
LOT 12 TP (3) – even this early I would expect 300k PLUS to win this lot.
I will do a Review after the auction – more fun as I’ll see how the biddings went and who got the bargains, and who paid over the odds.
Bournemouth 1-1 West Ham
Arsenal 3-0 Everton
Brighton 2-1 Crystal Palace
Chelsea 3-2 Brentford
Liverpool 3-0 Fulham
Man City 3-0 Man United
Newcastle 2-1 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 2-1 Aston Villa
Southampton 1-2 Tottenham
Wolves 2-0 Ipswich Town
Bournemouth 2 - 0 West Ham
Arsenal 3 - 0 Everton
Brighton 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Chelsea 2 - 1 Brentford
Liverpool 3 - 0 Fulham
Man. City 2 - 0 Man. United
Newcastle 2 - 1 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Southampton 1 - 2 Tottenham
Wolves 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
You b*stards. Forest never go by predictions so we're going to lose now.
Bournemouth 2 - 0 West Ham
Arsenal 3 - 0 Everton
Brighton 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Chelsea 2 - 1 Brentford
Liverpool 3 - 1 Fulham
Man. City 2 - 1 Man. United
Newcastle 2 - 1 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 3 - 1 Aston Villa
Southampton 1 - 4 Tottenham
Wolves 2 - 2Ipswich Town
STJ sends Maksym Kucheryavyi (5/18 WG) to CLY for 4 TP
Saturday early afternoon kick off this week.
Bournemouth 2 - 1 West Ham
Arsenal 2 - 0 Everton
Brighton 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Chelsea 2 - 0 Brentford
Liverpool 2 - 0 Fulham
Man. City 2 - 0 Man. United
Newcastle 2 - 0 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Southampton 1 - 2 Tottenham
Wolves 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
AI stone last again.
Yay for the humans especially Paul Cockyne
Paul Cockyne 8.0
Alon Atie 7.5
Andrew McCumiskey 6.5
Andy Shaw 6.0
Tyrone Barnard (AI) 3.0
FRA sends 100k to COW for Alvaro Cortes (1/10 DF)
Trade proposed to bring ELG back within rules.
50 maximum allowed at any time - with 24 hours to trade away excess.
Click that button.
HIB sends 40k, 1 CP to ARB for Keith Watson (5/10 DF)
STJ sends George Reid (1/10 DF) to QOS for 125k
Updated for PET
PT sends Mason McGready (2/23 GK) to BRE for Grady McGrath (3/28 FW)
Think Santa and turkey and shopping in the sales will keep many managers busy around that time.
Schedule bottom left of front page says Sponsor Auction is that day instead of a match.
Just look at the schedule, I notice that there are no matches scheduled for Saturday 28th Dec. Wondered if that is deliberate or a slip?
ARB sends 75k to EF for 1 CP
PT sends 100k to EDI for Alex NZiland (6/6 DF), Craig Slater (6/6 MF), Ryan Schiavone (7/5 MF)
Last seasons fair play +2 OTF; HAM EF BER
Prediction league top 5 - as posted 21/11/24 by Alan COW
Manager of Season: CLY EF ELG
Morale bonus added for Div 1 top 6, Div 2 top 3, Div 3 top 3
and CECIL cup top 2, and SESL cup top 2.
(where OTF hit maximum 10 then the award was converted in to 2CP as done in previous seasons)
Appreciate support for the game server from Paul AYR, Arnold QOS, Andrew SRA, Richard STE & Roy STI.
Another handful of managers also donate monthly via bank standing orders that keep the game going.
Anyone else want throw a quid or two my way then link below.
SESL is still free to play this season ofcourse.
Donate towards
server costs:-
https://paypal.me/SESL
The following teams receive Sponsorship success through blip at end of last season:
STI(100)
Went to see a farmer friend of mine once. He showed my his best pig in the sty. It was a magnificent beast a part from it was missing a hind leg. I asked him why it only had three legs? He said such quality meat, you cannot eat it all at once!
Whoever heard of a 3-legged cup tie, or any other creature for that matter? But not to worry, closer examination shows it to be a normal quadruped.
Are we the first team to have a three-legged cup tie? (Or at least joint first with our opponents Patrick Thistle).
And is that why we can't see our first two league fixtures?
Pre-season now done. Get trading.
Hello everyone,
I am happy to be back again and have completed the pre-season preparations. I am looking forward to a new season.
I'd never been to a football match until 1977 when, at Leicester University, I was asked if I wanted to watch Leicester play Leeds (worst game ever). I watched two more Leicester games before coming home for Christmas.
Forest had been drawn at home in the FA Cup and me and a mate from home went - and I was hooked. I saw pretty much every home game that season and the season after. The 79/80 season was my finals year, the East Stand where I used to watch became all-seater and the price went up to £2 so I very rarely went.
It helped that 77/78 we won the league and league cup, 78/79 second in league, league cup and European Cup and 79/80 the European Cup.
Some games I remember like it was yesterday.
Looking at STE's schedule, it looks like MOT might again be doomed to play each team the match after they play STJ this season. So, we will expect to see well-rested T-11s each match as a challenge. At least this season we will know this ahead of time and can focus on the cups from the start!
Taken care of. Apologies for being one of the hold-ups.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Dec 1st:
ALB(25) ALO(10) ARB(10) COW(10) EF(20) EST(10) EDI(50) FAL(10) FRA(50) HEA(10) HIB(50) LIV(10) RR(20) SRA(20)
I lived in Nottingham from 1978, moved to West Bridgford in spitting distance of the City Ground in 1980. We must have attended some of the same matches.....!
I'm as surprised as many Forest fans that our team is doing so well. I haven't been to a match in years and was lucky enough to watch Forest between 1977 and 1980 (Division 1 winners, 2 league cup wins and 2 European cup wins).
Top banter Steve
I see quite a few got Man Utd's goals correct...
... then we can get trade window shoved open.
Finish the season with 10 OTF?
Don't know why that came to me...
Make £10 contribution to server costs?
Sit in a tub of baked beans whilst putting in team orders?
Finish the season with 3 DFs 25SL+?
Are we having a change?
I can't see any mention of suggested change, just the front page header, which might have just been left since the last auction of last season
Taking advice from Ricky Bobby last week, we werent first, so we were last. Here is this weeks pick
Only 10 teams to do their preseason, and personally I liked the idea of a divisional auction. We are human and in amongst 48 managers there will always be a chance someone will not read the rules properly - inevitable I would say..
I am happy to police the individual auctions if needed, but let's not try to change/delete/alter another specific attribute in the game - or eventually it will become like so many other games and lose it's individualism. (Reviews have gone it seems - what next?)
Thanks for reminder Ricky
that there is no need to blog that ARB about and bio have been updated today.
No matter how many times you say thers no need to blog that team updates and bios are done Mark, people still will, haha :-)
Maybe more admin/hassle than they are worth?
I saw one basement Div 3 side put in bids for all 3 auctions Div 1, 2 & 3.
Andrew MOT also spotted a rogue auction bid or two from teams not in correct division.
There may have been other managers who forgot what division they were in, or simply never knew there was divisional auctions. Rogue bids would need manually removed somehow.
Are these still for individual Divisions or are they now open to ALL ?
Short of cash for auctions? Nothing on TV to watch?
Click on "Update About" and "Update Bio" on your team page and earn the easiest 200k ever.
I will be looking for the usual "About" update which can be about your sesl team.
Bio updates tend to be about your job, family, real life teams, and whatever you wish.
Upto 100k for each.
You need add season 58 update, and/or add a date. Type something recent so i know its fresh.
No need to blog when you do update, as I will check each team in turn anyway.
Saturday 21st Dec I will pay the initial sums.
Saturday 28th Dec will be the 2nd payout.
Aston Villa 3-0 Southampton
Brentford 1-1 Newcastle
Crystal Palace 1-2 Man City
Everton 1-4 Liverpool
Fulham 1-1 Arsenal
Ipswich Town 1-2 Bournemouth
Leicester City 0-1 Brighton
Man United 2-0 Nottingham Forest
Tottenham 1-1 Chelsea
West Ham 3-0 Wolves
Aston Villa 2-0 Southampton
Brentford 2-2 Newcastle
Crystal Palace 1-1 Man City
Everton 0-2 Liverpool
Fulham 1-2 Arsenal
Ipswich Town 1-2 Bournemouth
Leicester City 1-2 Brighton
Man United 3-1 Nottingham Forest
Tottenham 1-2 Chelsea
West Ham 3-0 Wolves
Aston Villa 3-1 Southampton
Brentford 2-1 Newcastle
Crystal Palace 1-3 Man City
Everton 1-2 Liverpool
Fulham 1-2 Arsenal
Ipswich Town 1-1 Bournemouth
Leicester City 1-1 Brighton
Man United 3-2 Nottingham Forest
Tottenham 1-2 Chelsea
West Ham 3-1 Wolves
Pre-Season is going very well it would seem.
32/48 so far.
Here they are,for the gameweek startinhg o n Saturday.
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Southampton
Brentford 1 - 2 Newcastle
Crystal Palace 0 - 2 Man. City
Everton 0 - 2 Liverpool
Fulham 0 - 2 Arsenal
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Bournemouth
Leicester City 0 - 2 Brighton
Man. United 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Tottenham 1 - 1 Chelsea
West Ham 2 - 1 Wolves
Berwicks
1/16 DF B Rodgers (Bosman has been changed to a DM
Just letting everybody know the Change
Cheers
The following teams receive Pre season order balls up through buying 35 CP:
PET(-1500)
Dammit, our turn to guff up this season. Accidentally didn't purchase any CP.
Can we please have 35 or so and be charged whatever it is?
"Oh oh. We're half way there." said Bon Jovi.
24 out of 48 teams have done pre season orders.
If a block of CP bought is to confirm pre season anyway.
Thanks William. And yes, i do feel stupid!
Rules 2024.......Highlighted in ORANGE just below the 3 rows of team badges near top of the home page Kevin.
Could someone point me in their general direction please? I can't seem to find them and the link in the drop down menu is dead. Cheers.
State your top scorer for season ahead.
State your DP total (within 20DP maybe).
Beat all 3 of your rivals at least once during the season (cup or league).
Named player sponsorship has never been tried? i.e. 20 goals in a season from a 'named player' and the manager has to specify the exact name when winning the sponsorship?
*** Reward generously if idea accepted (as we are stoney broke)
Would be interesting to see suggestions of potential other sponsors (Not suggestions of removing sponsors)
Like - Fill your stadium with jelly beans. IF the amount of Jelly Beans is higher than the 1 000 000 then win 100k sponsorship. Or of course something more serious.
And my pre-season is done
And ill be updating my enemy / rival list shortly... Loading childish behaviour version 2
Your team sponsorship thoughts for season 58?
Have your say on poll vote on front page.
Pre-Season
Current number of teams to have completed their Pre-Season todate...
19/48
CLY preseason all done and dusted.
Especially when double posted haha. Seems I've missed the huge 'strong discussion' around front page reviews and general blogging. Definitely virtual money to be made in it
And writing is easy too - and you'll get paid as well. Unless payments stop (hope not - I need another Defender!! )
And writing is easy too - and you'll get paid as well. Unless payments stop (hope not - I need another Defender!! )
Are the two who have requested a team swap Man City fans?
PRE SEASON PROCESS
open until 10th December 2024, 12:00 hrs
Click on "Transactions" and then button "pre season"
Select your team captain age 5+ (drop down list)
CP purchase (drop down list)
Free bosman player: select position (drop down box),
type in a name,
select a nationality
Click button "Submit preseason"
No trades until Pre season orders are done for all teams
Anyone wish to be considered for a team swap for season ahead then inbox STJ, or post on blog.
Two managers so far have asked to switch clubs.
Oh how I love writing!
A nice win for Andy whilst Tyrones AI assisted predictions move all the way from top to bottom.
Andy Shaw 10.5
Alon Atie 8.0
James Tucker 6.0
Paul Cockyne 5.0
Andy McCumiskey 4.5
Tyrone Barnard9With AI) 3.0
Gameweek 14 is midweek so I am going to ignore it but I willput predictions for next weekend on about Wednesday
You might want to check your personal bios update - possibly left some season 57 stuff there? π
Done.
FRA looking to buy a Bosman DF.
I will pay 100K for a SL10
260K for a SL 12
420K for a SL14
If you need a name use Alvaro Cortes, but not serious.
Please mail me and Ill give a firm comitment to buy.
Will confess I never saw a note saying pre season was open - my mind must have been on other things - can't think what. π€¬
I will look at it today.. π€
Current number of teams to have completed their Pre-Season todate...
9/48
By the look of the Front Page it seems the tail has wagged the dog - no Reviews. Thought maybe a Poll would have been a good place to make that decisio, unless there are plans for something else? π€π€
To me SESL was a cut above the rest, and not a "put team line in, check for results, put team line in etc " game - there are dozens of them out there - I know - I've played most. Hope it keeps its unique appeal.. π
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Nov 24th:
AI(10) ARB(15) BRE(10) COW(50) DEV(20) EF(20) EST(25) EDI(35) FAL(10) FOR(35) FRA(30) GM(35) HIB(30) LIV(10) MOT(10) RR(30) STI(30) SRA(20)
As well as the 25k per league match there's also the 0.3 morale bonus that some teams can get. That works out at around 9k per match. This can be another 450k per season.
Other teams can get this 9k if they play the team with the bonus but generally the bigger bonuses go to Div 1 teams so if you're down in Div 3 you have to hope you meet them in the cup(s).
I don't think that there is ever going to be a perfect answer to this. It is reasonable that Div 1 teams should get more gate money than Div 3, but how much more? It is reasonable that people prepared to contribute to the game in some way should be rewarded, but by how much? it is reasonable to tax people in some way, but by how much, and where should the money go?
Clearly we are not all going to agree on these questions and, human nature being what it is, our individual views are more likely to be influenced by the way we choose to play the game (i.e. self-interest), than by any objective criteria. I think we should allow Mark to run the game as he sees fit and support him in whatever decisions he makes.
I have always thought Div 1 teams get too much gate money, and I have argued this point before along with my feelings on participation! Teams in the top flight should get a little more but nearly double is quite a lot more..
Please see your 'Inbox'
Can someone clarify please.
If so how was this agreed? Seems like a small amount of managers complaining about existing rules that have been part of SESL for years. Something that they themselves could have addressed.. by participating more.
SESL has always been more than a team selection, purely numbers game. Just like football itself.
Always feels like a boot in the sack when it happens!
The following teams receive SESL Officer Duties through :
COW(400) MOT(300)
for my posts this week...we have given too much away so far.. π
But everybody with an opinion usually has their own situation in mind when they voice it.
Me too - I know we make less cash on gate money than the top division teams, and therefore to try to better my team in order to compete when promotion comes (and not be one of the easy touch teams others look to beat) I catch up by working for the league via reviewing and participating. Not apologising - just explaining, but it seems some lads would like to cut back some of the stuff that separates this set up from other online games.
i appreciate being in the 1st division should be the aim for all of us, and although 32 of us can't be there, we can have an entertaining season by earning and trying to train and trade up to being successful. Can't always manage it, but it's fun. Take away the earnings and we will never catch up on the extra income the top teams get from the gate money. But it seems that may happen so ....
It seem a lot but remember there are less games and your morale %-age takes a hit as you are nearly always playing the best teams rather than rabbit bashing. Also, amongst the favourites for next season must be the top two from Div Two hence showing that you can do it without a bonus.
Is a reward for playing the game well. Participation cash is just for blething on about anything and earning cash like this post!
I believe SESL /MSWL is a magnificent game that has been carefully crafted to reward those that play it skillfully. I dont actually see too much money per se as a problem at all as that just adjusts the price of resources/players for all. ,
One of the great features of the game is that all managers are trying to achieve different goals. That means that virtually"half the managers can have a "winning" season at the same time. The goal can be winninhg the division, a cup run ,promotion, or avoiding relegation depending where in the life cycle the team is.
I recently went through this process .I started with a poor team,actually got the wooden spoon in Div 3(twice) but eventually got promoted to Div one. I then spent 2-3 seasons just surviving to catch upto trhe teams who had been getting the higher bonus before I could start trying to compete for a title.
This dynamic of teams in different stages of their life cycle, of necessity having different goals (besides for adding realism ) does add to the challenge and reward for playing the game.
Its also why I object so stringently to excessive participation bonuses ,as they destroy the brilliant balance of resources element that makes this game great.
Small reward for getting to the top table of Div 1.
Otherwise a team may be tempted to lose focus on league games and just play in the cup matches to succeed in Cups, while sitting in Div 3.
In light of a minority of Managers calling for less Cash to be available for teams to earn....and succeeding btw.
Surely it is time for Division 1 teams to lose the unfair advantage that they receive every season via extra gate money(approx 25k per game). Some managers from the lower divisions feel the need to generate extra cash through party bonus and participation etc in an attempt to play catch-up but some of these sources are slowly being eroded which must surely make the Division 1 'Gate money' issue even more pronounced.
With a view to fairness, i am sure Division 1 managers especially, want to level the playing field and abolish this 'Unfair advantage' they so very clearly enjoy ?
On the back of a win, which felt sweeter by benefitting from Robin Hood (Thank you to the donators!) here is this weeks Chat GPT picks
Brentford 1 - 1 Leicester City
Brighton 3 - 1 Southampton
Chelsea 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 0 - 2 Newcastle
Liverpool 1 - 2 Man. City
Man. United 2 - 0 Everton
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Ipswich Town
Tottenham 3 - 0 Fulham
West Ham 1 - 2 Arsenal
Wolves 2 - 1 Bournemouth
I certainly knew I was going to make some managers happy with my donation to them, but it must have been dodgy for some teams to work out their final cash with earning possible monies for over achievers etc added in.
Don't need to worry on that score- I've never over achieved in SESL.. πππ
The following teams receive Robin Hood 4000k maximum through :
BER(217) EST(217) HIB(-416) PT(217) STJ(-454) SM(217)
The following teams receive Sponsorship success through end of Nov 2024:
ABE(200) ALB(100) ALO(200) ANN(500) ARB(500) BRE(400) CLY(400) COV(100) COW(500) DEV(100) DUM(100) DEE(100) DUU(300) EF(300) EDI(100) ELG(500) FAL(300) FRA(200) GM(100) HAM(100) HEA(300) HIB(400) KIL(300) LIV(500) MOT(300) NAI(200) PET(200) QOS(100) QP(200) RR(100) ROS(100) STJ(400) SM(200) STE(300) SRA(400)
S57 | Team sponsor criteria | Success | ||||
Div 1 | Div 2 | Div 3 | ||||
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 500k | RAN --ARB -- ANN | ARB | ANN | |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 500k | COW --LIV -- ELG | COW | LIV | ELG |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | CLY --HIB -- PT | CLY | HIB | |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row from match 9 | 400k | STJ --SRA -- BRE | STJ | SRA | BRE |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games > match 9 | 300k | STE --EF -- EST | STE | EF | |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | MOT --FAL -- DUU | MOT | FAL | DUU |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | HEA -- -- KIL | HEA | KIL | |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | ALO -- NAI -- SM | ALO | NAI | SM |
9 | Win >= 10 league games this season | 200k | FRA -- -- QP | FRA | QP | |
10 | Team league goals for >=20 | 200k | ABE --PET -- | ABE | PET | |
Earn 100k in participation bonus | 100k | default sponsor for all teams not winning a lot 1-10 |
||||
Div 1: ALB DEE DUM HAM INV RR | ||||||
Div 2: EDI AI CEL CB DFA FOR GM ROS | ||||||
Div 3: AYR BER COV DEV MON QOS STI | ||||||
winners:- | ||||||
ALB DEE DUM HAM RR | ||||||
EDI GM ROS | ||||||
COV DEV QOS |
The following teams receive Awards through end of season 57:
ALB(400) ANN(500) ARB(300) CEL(300) COV(100) COW(300) DEV(300) EF(300) EDI(200) ELG(400) FOR(200) FRA(400) LIV(100) PET(400) STJ(400) SM(200) STE(400)
Top17 start v league table finish | |||||
- Division 1 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | Top 17 start | league finish | over / under achiever | ||
10 | Fraserburgh | 20.4 | 2 | 8 | OVER achiever |
12 | Stenhousemuir | 19.6 | 4 | 8 | OVER achiever |
11 | Dumbarton | 20.1 | 6 | 5 | |
6 | Hearts | 21.6 | 3 | 3 | |
13 | Raith Rovers | 19.1 | 10 | 3 | |
2 | Clyde FC | 22.2 | 1 | 1 | |
15 | Inverness | 18.4 | 14 | 1 | |
7 | Motherwell | 21.1 | 7 | 0 | |
16 | Albion Rovers | 18.3 | 16 | 0 | |
8 | Cowdenbeath | 20.9 | 9 | -1 | |
14 | Alloa Athletic | 19.0 | 15 | -1 | |
3 | Saint Johnstone | 21.9 | 5 | -2 | |
5 | Dundee FC | 21.6 | 8 | -3 | |
9 | Aberdeen | 20.6 | 13 | -4 | |
4 | Rangers | 21.8 | 11 | -7 | |
1 | Hamilton Accies | 22.3 | 12 | -11 | under achiever |
- Division 2 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | Top 17 start | league finish | over / under achiever | ||
13 | Peterhead | 19.1 | 7 | 6 | OVER achiever |
8 | Stranraer | 20.0 | 4 | 4 | |
12 | East Fife | 19.5 | 8 | 4 | |
16 | Edinburgh City | 16.5 | 13 | 3 | |
3 | Livingston | 21.9 | 1 | 2 | |
14 | Forfar Athletic | 18.8 | 12 | 2 | |
2 | Arbroath | 22.1 | 2 | 0 | |
6 | Celtic | 20.5 | 6 | 0 | |
9 | Greenock Morton | 19.9 | 9 | 0 | |
4 | Hibernian | 21.2 | 5 | -1 | |
10 | Airdrieonians FC | 19.6 | 11 | -1 | |
15 | Ross County | 18.1 | 16 | -1 | |
1 | Clydebank | 22.8 | 3 | -2 | |
11 | Dunfermline Athletic | 19.5 | 15 | -4 | |
5 | Nairn County | 20.7 | 10 | -5 | |
7 | Falkirk | 20.4 | 14 | -7 | under achiever |
- Division 3 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | Top 17 start | league finish | over / under achiever | ||
16 | Elgin City | 17.2 | 1 | 15 | OVER achiever |
15 | Queen of the South | 17.2 | 2 | 13 | |
14 | Montrose | 17.7 | 5 | 9 | |
11 | Queens Park | 17.8 | 8 | 3 | |
12 | Deveronvale | 17.8 | 12 | 0 | |
5 | Stirling | 18.9 | 6 | -1 | |
8 | Kilmarnock | 18.4 | 9 | -1 | |
13 | Saint Mirren | 17.7 | 14 | -1 | |
1 | Brechin City | 21.3 | 3 | -2 | |
2 | Annan Athletic | 19.8 | 4 | -2 | |
9 | Dundee United | 18.1 | 11 | -2 | |
4 | Cove Rangers | 19.4 | 7 | -3 | |
7 | Ayr United | 18.4 | 10 | -3 | |
10 | East Stirlingshire | 17.9 | 13 | -3 | |
6 | Partick Thistle | 18.8 | 15 | -9 | |
3 | Berwick | 19.5 | 16 | -13 | under achiever |
Brentford 1 - 2 Leicester City
Brighton 4 - 0 Southampton
Chelsea 3 - 2 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Newcastle
Liverpool 1 - 4 Man. City
Man. United 2 - 0 Everton
Nottingham Forest 2 - 2 Ipswich Town
Tottenham 3 - 0 Fulham
West Ham 1 - 1 Arsenal
Wolves 1 - 2 Bournemouth
Oh come on now - Liverpool could score 37 v Man City but surely City will get at least 1 consolation..? ππ
Brentford 2 - 1 Leicester City
Brighton 2 - 0 Southampton
Chelsea 2 - 2 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Newcastle
Liverpool 37 - 0 Man. City
Man. United 1 - 1 Everton
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
Tottenham 3 - 0 Fulham
West Ham 0 - 2 Arsenal
Wolves 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Brentford 2-1 Leicester City
Brighton 3-1 Southampton
Chelsea 2-0 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 2-1 Newcastle
Liverpool 2-2 Man City
Man United 1-1 Everton
Nottingham Forest 2-0 Ipswich Town
Tottenham 3-0 Fulham
West Ham 1-2 Arsenal
Wolves 2-0 Bournemouth
Brentford 2-0 Leicester City
Brighton 3-1 Southampton
Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 1-1 Newcastle
Liverpool 3-1 Man City
Man United 3-1 Everton
Nottingham Forest 1-0 Ipswich Town
Tottenham 3-1 Fulham
West Ham 1-1 Arsenal
Wolves 2-1 Bournemouth
This gameweek starts on Friday night.
Brentford 2 - 1 Leicester City
Brighton 2 - 0 Southampton
Chelsea 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Newcastle
Liverpool 2 - 1 Man. City
Man. United 2 - 0 Everton
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
Tottenham 2 - 1 Fulham
West Ham 0 - 2 Arsenal
Wolves 1 - 2 Bournemouth
Very interesting that the chat GPTEFL predictions won out of 10 predictions. However a very small sample size of 1 gameweek. Maybe Tyron can enter a few more times using chat to see how well it does over time.
And sadly the Robots win yet again.
Oh my.....
even more 'Disposable income' lol
Some of these award amounts will be reduced from next season to lower league income a little.
The thinking being the awards would tend to go to best teams already making them even stronger.
more to follow tomorrow
S57 awards - Nov 2024 | |||||
team | |||||
Over achievers | 400k | FRA/STE | +8 places | Div 1 | |
Top17 start v league table finish | 400k | PET | +6 places | Div 2 | |
400k each | 400k | ELG | +15 places | Div 3 | |
Golden Boot | |||||
Golden Boot 300k Div 1 | Tiger Woods (FW) | COW | 26 | Div 1 | |
Silver Boot 300k Div 2 | Leighton McIntosh (FW) | ARB | 29 | Div 2 | |
Bronze Boot 300k Div 3 | Mownt Taranaki (FW) | ANN | 29 | Div 3 | |
Most man of the Match | Gracie (GK) | ALB | 9 | Div 1 | |
Scott Shepherd (FW) | EF | 8 | Div 2 | ||
200k | Peter Shilton (GK) | EDI | 8 | Div 2 | |
Mownt Taranaki (FW) | ANN | 10 | Div 3 | ||
Golden Gloves | |||||
Golden Gloves 200k Div 1 | Gracie | ALB | 96.0 | Div 1 | |
Silver Gloves 200k Div 2 | Mark McCallum2 | FOR | 83.4 | Div 2 | |
Bronze Gloves 200k Div 3 | James Rimmer | SM | 83.8 | Div 3 | |
Worst Shooter Squib | Aaron Essel (MF) | STJ | 0/12 | Div 1 | |
100k | Tony Macaroni (MA) | LIV | 0/14 | Div 2 | |
Jack Healy (WG) | EF | 0/14 | Div 2 | ||
Jason Naismith (DF) | COV | 0/11 | Div 3 | ||
Rookie Hotshot age 0 + age 1 now |
Milo (MA) | STJ | 15 | Div 1 | |
300k | Adam Idah (FW) | CEL | 20 | Div 2 | |
Gabriel Pec (FW) | DEV | 14 | Div 3 |
A huge disparity of 9 points between top and bottom , with Tyron coming away with the win.
Tyron Barnard 11.5
Kevin Hull 8.0
Andy Shaw 7.0
Tapani Olkku 6.5
James Tucker 6.0
Andrew Foss Grant 5.0
Roy Rolsten 5.0
Paul Cockyne 4.0
Alon Atie 4.0
Andrew McCumisky 2.5
This is where Guardiola can show true leadership - easy putting 11 supermen on the park and letting them build his reputation, but now he has to step up to show he can motivate 10 supermen and 1 overpaid substitute. ππ
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through to match 51:
EF(200) EDI(200) HIB(200)
5 defeats in a row
EPL predictions on this here blog likely had no one predictions a
Maine Road (EmptyHad stadium) collapse.
AI didn't do too well spotting the Man City and Wolves results.....remind me to wait for Chat-GPT5.....
Alan, you get my vote to run it again -nobody likely to want to do it instead of yourself.
Great job, and this time we actually got a prize.. ππ
So the other day I saw the heading AI Predictions and figured Id do the same. Here is CHATGPT Predictions for this weekends EPL
Bournemouth 1 - 2 Brighton
Arsenal 3-0 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 1-1 Crystal Palace
Everton 1 - 2 Brentford
Fulham 1 - 1 Wolves
Ipswich Town 0 - 2 Man. United
Leicester City 1 - 2 Chelsea
Man. City 3 - 1 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 1 West Ham
Southampton 0 - 3 Liverpool
Thank you for running it Alan!
Next season I am going to analyze the teams less and see what happens, I got a 1, a 2 and a 3 this season...!
And I never just did random results...! Wow...
Thanks to Alan for running the prediction league once again. Your reports are always very informative and well-presented so I very much hope you can overcome the time pressures you've been facing and continue with the excellent job next season
Last week means in terms of final table movements there was very little. Bit of a damp squib.
Had to look that saying up. For info.
"Noun. damp squib (plural damp squibs) (literally) A firework that has been wet and therefore fails to go off correctly. (idiomatic, by extension) Anything that does not work properly, or fails to come up to expectations; a dud."
However there was some movement, Elgin who won in both weeks 9 and 10 snuck into the prizes. They joined Hibs in taking a joint 5th place. Not bad for a side who started 2,3 0.
That means we have a solitary winner, East Fife taking the top spot. Only just noticed this but they have sat in that top spot from week 1. Impressive.
Motherwell take 2nd spot, they are just an impressive prediction league team. Never far away.
Ayr and Cowdenbeath (last season's winners) take joint 3rd spot. Both scored consistently just above average each week.
Dundee take 4th spot, they again had a poor start going 2 , 2. They'll be dissappointed with the final week score of 2 and not being able to better their total. However 2 TP prize is still decent.
The afore mentioned Elgin and Hibs bring up the rear in relation to prizes. The excellent David at Hibs will be glad it's not a cash prize.
Final Table here
Thanks for the participation this year.
I wouldn't mind another season at being the admin, will try and get more timely results! If anyone feels strongly about giving it a bash then happy to step aside.
Final table below. Any issues please inbox me.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 10 Winners:
ELG(100)
Carnage.
2nd lowest average score of the season. We had another team score 0 points.
Only one of the winning teams had more than half pick them.
Banker count, only 3 teams picked up the 2 points. Too much effort to see if that is a first but that seems as low as I can recall.
However we did have 1 team buck the trend, step forward Elgin, who managed an impressive 5 points. 3 others had 4 then a fairly even spread amongst the 3,2 and 1s.
It's so unusual that I have to mention Deveronvale's 0. I think in recent times only the commish has managed that, twice. Though myself and 4 others were not far ahead with a solitary point.
Someone could list end of season award winners ,
and maybe potential team sponsorship payouts due.
Manager of season voting continues before any pre season preparations normally.
I realise that it is many weeks away yet and that i am being seriously impatient but.....
Can anybody remember roughly how long between the end of one season and the opening of Pre-Season period is for the next season is ?
No participation bonus money in real life Scottish football as a 2nd club has gone in to administration.
Dumbarton yesterday, and Inverness a couple weeks ago.
Cash-flow issues? Lack of sponsorship? Poor training facilities?
SESL is ahead of its time with few teams at risk of going bust here.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1jr2r49g6lo
Poll voting is closer than I imagined.
STI Predictions
EPL
Bournemouth 1-1 Brighton
Arsenal 2-1 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 2-1 Crystal Palace
Everton 1-0 Brentford
Fulham 1-1 Wolves
Ipswich Town 1-3 Man United
Leicester City 1-2 Chelsea
Man City 2-0 Tottenham
Newcastle 2-0 West Ham
Southampton 0-2 Liverpool
Bournemouth 1 - 2 Brighton
Arsenal 2 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Everton 2 - 2 Brentford
Fulham 1 - 1 Wolves
Ipswich Town 0 - 3 Man. United
Leicester City 1 - 2 Chelsea
Man. City 3 - 0 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 1 West Ham
Southampton 0 - 4 Liverpool
In this and previous season I was able to train up a couple of youngster GK's for Steve and David, this gave me a significant amount of extra money right in the middle of the season. Yet, both seasons my team significantly underperformed while I really didn't notice any improvement being able to spend extra money.
Starting money is worth a lot more as you can buy resources and still have something left for the first auctions, but I don't think that one or two seasons extra cash will give that more advantage. Maybe when you have a lot more cash then your opponents on a structural basis you might outperform them, but in my opinion, money is overrated.
As for the front page reviews! Keep it going and do not decrease the rewards! I have done reviews quite a couple of seasons ago myself and it's nearly impossible to keep these things entertaining and fresh, while it also takes up a lot of time and effort. Much respect for the people doing these as it's a seriously underestimated task, quite thankless and well underpaid.
Bournemouth 0 - 1 Brighton
Arsenal 1 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Everton 1 - 1 Brentford
Fulham 2 - 0 Wolves
Ipswich Town 1 - 4 Man. United
Leicester City 0 - 2 Chelsea
Man. City 2 - 1 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 0 West Ham
Southampton 0 - 4 Liverpool
I may have started this debate a week ago with my blog
"free 100k pending: INV RR AI CEL CB DFA FOR AYR BER MON STI"
Agree with Tyron EST it stirred up some good debate
Agree with James RR that discussion been polite and respectful.
Agree with Eduard DEE about capping the party income,
but that is already capped at 50k a week that Andrew MOT hands out.
The "other" participation I know Eduard means too,
and Eduard blog posts are often inciteful and worth reading.
I not sure David HIB is "breaking the economy". HIB is a Div 2 side again next season. HIB are not dominating SESL.
Forgive me please - with respect - is trade profit also to be capped?
July saw these trades:-
DEE sends Alan Wright (1/12 MF) to SM for 320k.
then
DEE sends 150k to COV for Declan Glass (1/14 MF).
DEE doubled their money in 4 days. 150K > 320k for exact same age and position (MF)
and added 2 SL to an age 1 - TP maybe worth 90K, so another 180k benefit (I not even adding the 2 x 25k in extra TP slots likely needed to add 2 SL).
350k profit total value (170k + 180k). For one mouse click of a trade.
DEE did nothing wrong. But a flurry of such unbalanced trades may not help the game economy.
HIB may give a similar 350k value away via Robin Hood rule soon. (bank 4000k max)
One team loses 350k soon while another gained 350k value from a trade mouse click.
A 700k swing right there.
350k would take maybe 10 hours of divisional front page reviews to earn as a comparison to one click of the mouse.
I saying no more on topic.
Lets move on and do EPL predictions for bit of fun.....
Bournemouth 2-1 Brighton
Arsenal 2-0 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 3-0 Crystal Palace
Everton 1-2 Brentford
Fulham 2-1 Wolves
Ipswich Town 1-2 Man United
Leicester City 0-2 Chelsea
Man City 2-1 Tottenham
Newcastle 3-1 West Ham
Southampton 0-4 Liverpool
Great debate on participation and the value of it. I, in the past, had significantly more time and ran the Prediction League for 7 seasons. When I was actively involved in that role I was actively involved in more roles and my team was doing better as I spent more time in the game. Now that is not true for most, but its definitely true for some.
I enjoy reading the blogs (Except Matt's) and they add a great value to the game. When I played OASL, SFLSL, ODFL and SESL I would regularly only spend time here thanks to the added extras involved.
If nothing else, thank you for stirring up some good debate to kick off the tedious off season!
Bournemouth 1-1 Brighton
Arsenal 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 3-1 Crystal Palace
Everton 1-3 Brentford
Fulham 1-1 Wolves
Ipswich Town 1-2 Man United
Leicester City 1-3 Chelsea
Man City 3-1 Tottenham
Newcastle 3-1 West Ham
Southampton 0-3 Liverpool
Bournemouth 2-1 Brighton
Arsenal 2-0 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 3-1 Crystal Palace
Everton 1-2 Brentford
Fulham 1-2 Wolves
Ipswich Town 1-2 Man United
Leicester City 1-3 Chelsea
Man City 3-0 Tottenham
Newcastle 3-0 West Ham
Southampton 0-3 Liverpool
Let's have a go
Bournemouth 3-4 Brighton
Arsenal 2-0 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 3-0 Crystal Palace
Everton 0-1 Brentford
Fulham 3-0 Wolves
Ipswich Town 2-2 Man United
Leicester City 0-3 Chelsea
Man City 4-1 Tottenham
Newcastle 5-0 West Ham
Southampton 0-4 Liverpool
Bournemouth 1-1 Brighton
Arsenal 2-1 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 3-1 Crystal Palace
Everton 1-1 Brentford
Fulham 2-1 Wolves
Ipswich Town 1-3 Man United
Leicester City 1-3 Chelsea
Man City 2-1 Tottenham
Newcastle 1-2 West Ham
Southampton 1-2 Liverpool
EPL back again this week.
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Brighton
Arsenal 2 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Everton 2 - 1 Brentford
Fulham 2 - 0 Wolves
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Man. United
Leicester City 0 - 2 Chelsea
Man. City 2 - 0 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 0 West Ham
Southampton 0 - 2 Liverpool
Just to put into perspective the amount 100K per week is(being paid for blog reviews) Even if a player earns 100K per league game played that comes to the 3000K one requires to buy the 50CP one needs per season.
The average manager thereafter may earn another 1000K per season from gameplay.
This 1000K is for exta coaching/training slots ,extra CP and TP purchased ,and all players purchased on auction.. so 100K is pretty much 10% of disposable income and is earned per week. This means that managers of equal skill level have virtually no chance against one who earns participation points if they do not.
So the participation bonus is not just a small benifit for participation ,but rather a massive distortion to the game which should be the primary reason we are all here.
Sure give a small bonus ,but as a percentage of disposable income the current bonuses are huge.
As the partipcation bonus has paid out I can start again! ;-)
I think that this discussion has been vey polite and respectful. I have nothing but admiration for the amount of time and effort spent compiling reports, writing jounals, etc etc. It is not a personal criticism of anyone, other than my comment on the effect it has on the game, my (and others) potential enjoyment of it, and a suggestion/wish to see it reined in a little. If that measn slightly less content then I think that is a compromise I could take.
I have seen participation bonus rise and rise in my 40 seasons from the old e-mailled circular once a week in word format to the multiple opportunites now. I accept that a bonus helps stimulate an interesting and chaaging site, and it is probably a necessary incentive to get to that point. But there seem to be plenty who think there may be too much.
Personnaly I spend most days writing e-mails, statements and reading documents so that I am not really that interested in settling down to write more and don't want it to be a chore. But I do like to think about how I can get 11 SL 35 players or make the value for an odd deal. On Bios I always like a time out after each season and so forget/miss the Bio part until after the deadline. Actually the Bios are the bits I enjoy most, some are quite fascinating!
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Nov 17th:
ALB(50) ALO(15) BRE(15) CLY(30) DUM(10) DEE(50) EF(50) EST(25) EDI(50) FAL(25) FOR(25) FRA(30) GM(40) HEA(35) HIB(50) KIL(10) LIV(15) MOT(35) QOS(40) RR(50) STJ(15) STI(50) SRA(25)
David....
A truly wonderful post and so, so truthful.
I have been wanting to post something similar for the last week but could not find the words to be so polite.
Many thanks mate.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Nov 10th:
ALO(25) ARB(20) BRE(10) CLY(20) COW(50) DEE(30) EF(50) EDI(35) FAL(35) FRA(25) HEA(20) HIB(10) LIV(10) MOT(10) QOS(10) ROS(35) SRA(50)
The easy money here is the 200k for bios completion at the beginning of the season - yet quite a few don't bother. But that's okay - that's a personal choice, and i don't read everybody else's bios anyway - just a selected set of managers I have got to know over the seasons.
Same with reviews - I'd guess many aren't read, despite the effort put in - that's okay too. Personal choice rules - but quite a few do read them - thanks for that from my colleagues by the way!! π ππ
But why should people who haven't the time or the inclination to do relatively simple things like bios updates or an occasional blog/journal rule out earnings made by managers who are prepared to keep SESL where it is - great fun to play and be involved in. Live and let live...π€
I have never denied, actually I have admitted in the past, I do as much as I can to earn cash to try to compete with obviously better managers, but I remain in the 2nd division. π I spend the time but starting to now wonder why if it seems to upset so many people ... I usually become a cash injection for a few 3rd division teams when I earn more 4,000k, I don't mind, it means I've worked for it and at least I can afford the 50 CPs at the start of a new season. π
I try to bridge the gap between the 1st division extra gate cash (750k per season in the league alone) and the money I earn in the 2nd division.
I have made ready to hand over to a reviewer at MSA time but none have come forward - now is your chance to earn some cash for just short of 3 hours a weekend. π°π°
I am going into the close season now - at least I personally have probably ensured some managers who don't participate will be earning some cash now. See, easy to make money, eh?
In my opinion the 100k per review week is very well earned. Agree that it's a whole lot of cash per season, but it's also an incredible amount of work put in by each reviewer. When I've done them in the past it's hours of work every weekend. That's a really big ask.
I'd volunteer the idea that if lowering the payments was a desired outcome, then the workload should also be lowered. Maybe just reviewing one match per session or something similar. Not sure if I'd vote for that or not, but I think you just run out of reviewers too quickly if doing 30 hours of work over the season nets you only a few hundred k. It just has to be a significant payout if the expectation is on par with the amount of work that reviewers currently put in.
Personally I think 100k per week is too much for Front page reviews. I understand why it's this amount but even if 200k I wouldn't do them: I don't have the time or the inclination. I only read what is said about my team and the final part anyway.
I used to read all of Andrew McCumskey s and Rhys Briesden's (sp?) however.
Somebody made a quip about Alon's EPL predictions and the participation he gets. Well the last 3 were only 20, 25 and 30k for what I assume is two posts per week.
As for Journals I only read a couple if they're in my division. Most I ignore. I sometimes find them a chore to do - last season I was "on it" but this season less so. There's only so many ways to be pissed off at RNG (formerly Olmec) and I'm not going to repeat myself on how good Ball Control is.
I do read all Blog posts fully (apart from EPL as I don't do it) and I think my participation is as high as it is because of replying to Blog posts.
Participation makes a big difference: if you're an average Div 2 or 3 team who doesn't bother then you get 150k per weekend. If you're a participating Div 1 team with a decent morale bonus that could easily be 275k per weekend.
I agree with James, Alon and Eduard.
Reviews used to pay out 75k but Mark put it up to 100k as he felt 6 managers would do half a season each (3 divisions x 2) and make a few shekels for their efforts.
I think 5 or 6 lads came forward a couple of seasons ago but only about 4 lads last season.
I am happy to do a half season - happier to do the full season but realise not everyone thinks that's a good thing. Mark needs 6 bodies - he has 3-4.
One thing for sure - no point in doing half a season if the other half season doesn't get covered. So I volunteer to do whatever Mark wants.
This is strangely turning into a discussion about David's participation merits.
We can all (probably) agree that most of his writing is entertaining, and that he deserves some party bonus.
The starting topic, though, was neither whether David deserves a bonus (yes) nor if he is turning HIB into an invincible juggernaut (not yet).
The question was whether the amount of a particular bonus (and maybe others) was in line with the economic system.
Basically, a couple of guys (Alon's "minority") prefers playing a football sim.
Apparently some others prefer a creative writing contest.
I suppose that this would be a slightly different discussion if e.g. Andrew/MOT would decide to go for an additional 1500k income.
Just out of curiosity:
Since when are the reviews - and their 100k per week amount - established?
David Blair is a credit to Sesl.
Is this the same HIB still due to collect 400k in sponsor money.
Is this the same HIB who will be losing many hundred K to Robin Hood rule giving free money to teams near foot of Div 3.
Is this the same HIB who are still playing in Div 2 next season when Sesl a few times has seen same team.win Div 1 three times in a row (history on front page)
Doesn't sound like HIB are breaking the economics of Sesl. Ofcourse he'll enjoy the funds to spend on his team, but if was only for money then he may have stopped participating a month or so ago knowing full well he'd be over 4000k total bank maximum.
David Blair adds fun, and a reason to log in to Sesl during the week to catch up on blogs. Handful of other managers too which are appreciated by the silent majority I'd guess.
Other team equalise in 90+6 minute,
then Uruguay do this.....
GOAL: M. Ugarte 90+11
From this corner of the world I can say that I really enjoy this game and the blog and match comments plus the reviews definitely makes it a lot more interesting!
I haven't been able to participate much and understand that that hurts our club power (how far is Forfar Athletic from "club power"...??), but I enjoy it nontheless!
While I only have 15 seasons in SESL, like Dave, I have been playing Olmec games for almost 100 years, and it has always been a lot about the managers' interactions and not just the game engine and the lineups...
A few months ago a friend from Spain that I've made a very long time ago came to visit us in the US and spent a couple of days here with us.
That is just one example, some of you may remember Ricardo Rio, he just messaged me about my b-day and has very fond memories of his Olmec days. (Met him and others at an SFLSL RL reunion we had in... 2002!).
(this should make FOR some $...)
Cheers!
PS: still ecstatic about Uruguay's 3-2 win over Colombia last night!
Div | Adj | Bet | Bio | Draw | Div Rvw | Gate | Party | Pred | SA | Total B | |
Saint Johnstone | 1 | 300 | 200 | 5,447 | 230 | 6,177 | |||||
Motherwell | 1 | 450 | 200 | 4,493 | 610 | 167 | 5,920 | ||||
Hearts | 1 | 150 | 200 | 4,812 | 220 | 5,382 | |||||
Cowdenbeath | 1 | 450 | 200 | 4,314 | 410 | 5,374 | |||||
Dundee FC | 1 | 550 | 200 | 3,798 | 610 | 67 | 5,225 | ||||
Albion Rovers | 1 | 500 | 200 | 4,393 | 95 | 5,188 | |||||
Fraserburgh | 1 | 300 | 200 | 4,237 | 320 | 5,057 | |||||
Dumbarton | 1 | 700 | 4,160 | 160 | 5,020 | ||||||
Hamilton Accies | 1 | 200 | 4,536 | 115 | 4,851 | ||||||
Clyde FC | 1 | 300 | 4,129 | 235 | 4,664 | ||||||
Rangers | 1 | 4,429 | 25 | 4,454 | |||||||
Stenhousemuir | 1 | 200 | 3,943 | 195 | 100 | 4,438 | |||||
Alloa Athletic | 1 | 200 | 3,636 | 590 | 4,426 | ||||||
Inverness | 1 | 550 | 3,772 | 50 | 4,372 | ||||||
Raith Rovers | 1 | 4,140 | 30 | 4,170 | |||||||
Aberdeen | 1 | 3,810 | 3,810 | ||||||||
East Fife | 2 | 500 | 200 | 600 | 4,138 | 820 | 167 | 6,425 | |||
Edinburgh City | 2 | 400 | 200 | 50 | 1300 | 2,729 | 795 | 100 | 5,574 | ||
Hibernian | 2 | 350 | 200 | 100 | 1100 | 3,087 | 725 | 5,562 | |||
Livingston | 2 | 50 | 50 | 200 | 3,762 | 345 | 50 | 4,407 | |||
Stranraer | 2 | 550 | 200 | 2,971 | 390 | 4,111 | |||||
Arbroath | 2 | 250 | 200 | 50 | 3,276 | 320 | 4,096 | ||||
Falkirk | 2 | 450 | 200 | 2,844 | 370 | 50 | 3,914 | ||||
Ross County | 2 | 300 | 200 | 2,891 | 490 | 3,881 | |||||
Clydebank | 2 | 200 | 3,385 | 3,585 | |||||||
Dunfermline | 2 | 150 | 3,222 | 3,372 | |||||||
Nairn County | 2 | 200 | 3,122 | 35 | 3,357 | ||||||
Forfar Athletic | 2 | 200 | 3,058 | 45 | 3,303 | ||||||
Greenock Morton | 2 | 350 | 2,855 | 80 | 3,285 | ||||||
Airdieonians FC | 2 | 2,965 | 2,965 | ||||||||
Peterhead | 2 | 200 | 2,700 | 30 | 2,930 | ||||||
Celtic | 2 | 2,859 | 2,859 | ||||||||
Annan Athletic | 3 | 550 | 200 | 100 | 3,764 | 240 | 4,854 | ||||
Kilmarnock | 3 | 550 | 800 | 2,728 | 4,078 | ||||||
Elgin City | 3 | 550 | 200 | 3,161 | 150 | 4,061 | |||||
Brechin City | 3 | 250 | 3,252 | 200 | 100 | 3,802 | |||||
Cove Rangers | 3 | 3,427 | 180 | 3,607 | |||||||
Deveronvale | 3 | 550 | 200 | 2,686 | 100 | 3,536 | |||||
Dundee United | 3 | 300 | 3,051 | 45 | 100 | 3,496 | |||||
Queen of the South | 3 | 100 | 200 | 2,912 | 265 | 3,477 | |||||
Saint Mirren | 3 | 200.0 | 200 | 2,582 | 285 | 200 | 3,267 | ||||
Queens Park | 3 | 200 | 2,970 | 75 | 3,245 | ||||||
Stirling | 3 | 200 | 2,875 | 25 | 3,100 | ||||||
Ayr United | 3 | 200 | 2,708 | 45 | 2,953 | ||||||
Partick Thistle | 3 | 200 | 100 | 2,506 | 125 | 2,931 | |||||
Montrose | 3 | 2,887 | 2,887 | ||||||||
East Stirlingshire | 3 | 200 | 2,625 | 25 | 2,850 | ||||||
Berwick | 3 | 2,543 | 2,543 |
I am throwing my weight behind David Blair. HIB lighten the mood at every occasion on Blogs, and his front page league reviews are worth a read rather than repeat what is already in the match commentary.
David earns his bonus money well.
Not like he is skewing the economics and dominating season after season with this so called advantage - HIB in Div 2 guys, give him a break.
Great numbers. Could table be posted of total B that excludes MVP, Trades and Retirements but in order high to low x 3 table (per division)?
Hide a handful of columns if table fits width better.
I don't have an issue with participation awards. Managers of HIB ALO DEE etc are worthwhile readings and insightful. Mr Blair adds humor too.
MOT EF EDI and others I will have overlooked deserve their money. A few hundred K per team is maybe the average - a relatively small overall percentage of income.
Interesting discussion about participation and other bonuses. Here is a table, which probably won't fit across the page, showing income this season by club. I have the base data in a spreadsheet and am happy to supply further numbers on request.
Div | Adj | Bet | Bio | Draw | Div Rvw | Gate | MVP | Party | Pred | Retire | SA | Trade | Total | Total B | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Aberdeen | 1 | 3,810 | 50 | 250 | 1627 | 5,737 | 3,810 | ||||||||
Albion Rovers | 1 | 500 | 200 | 4,393 | 50 | 95 | 534 | 5,772 | 5,188 | ||||||
Alloa Athletic | 1 | 200 | 3,636 | 590 | 469 | 560 | 5,455 | 4,426 | |||||||
Clyde FC | 1 | 300 | 4,129 | 125 | 235 | 0 | 1103 | 5,892 | 4,664 | ||||||
Cowdenbeath | 1 | 450 | 200 | 4,314 | 50 | 410 | 176 | 360 | 5,960 | 5,374 | |||||
Dumbarton | 1 | 700 | 4,160 | 50 | 160 | 0 | 5,070 | 5,020 | |||||||
Dundee FC | 1 | 550 | 200 | 3,798 | 50 | 610 | 67 | 374 | 320 | 5,969 | 5,225 | ||||
Fraserburgh | 1 | 300 | 200 | 4,237 | 75 | 320 | 467 | 180 | 5,779 | 5,057 | |||||
Hamilton Accies | 1 | 200 | 4,536 | 50 | 115 | 288 | 635 | 5,824 | 4,851 | ||||||
Hearts | 1 | 150 | 200 | 4,812 | 125 | 220 | 550 | 1295 | 7,352 | 5,382 | |||||
Inverness | 1 | 550 | 3,772 | 50 | 212 | 4,584 | 4,372 | ||||||||
Motherwell | 1 | 450 | 200 | 4,493 | 75 | 610 | 167 | 396 | 391 | 6,782 | 5,920 | ||||
Raith Rovers | 1 | 4,140 | 50 | 30 | 319 | 4,539 | 4,170 | ||||||||
Rangers | 1 | 4,429 | 50 | 25 | 0 | 1877 | 6,381 | 4,454 | |||||||
Saint Johnstone | 1 | 300 | 200 | 5,447 | 75 | 230 | 354 | 911 | 7,517 | 6,177 | |||||
Stenhousemuir | 1 | 200 | 3,943 | 100 | 195 | 0 | 100 | 1030 | 5,568 | 4,438 | |||||
Airdieonians FC | 2 | 2,965 | 25 | 0 | 115 | 3,105 | 2,965 | ||||||||
Arbroath | 2 | 250 | 200 | 50 | 3,276 | 100 | 320 | 511 | 201 | 4,908 | 4,096 | ||||
Celtic | 2 | 2,859 | 50 | 339 | 3,248 | 2,859 | |||||||||
Clydebank | 2 | 200 | 3,385 | 150 | 0 | 3,735 | 3,585 | ||||||||
Dunfermline | 2 | 150 | 3,222 | 50 | 250 | 3,672 | 3,372 | ||||||||
East Fife | 2 | 500 | 200 | 600 | 4,138 | 50 | 820 | 167 | 134 | 280 | 6,889 | 6,425 | |||
Edinburgh City | 2 | 400 | 200 | 50 | 1300 | 2,729 | 25 | 795 | 100 | 72 | 1315 | 6,986 | 5,574 | ||
Falkirk | 2 | 450 | 200 | 2,844 | 370 | 50 | 1004 | 4,918 | 3,914 | ||||||
Forfar Athletic | 2 | 200 | 3,058 | 25 | 45 | 478 | 500 | 4,306 | 3,303 | ||||||
Greenock Morton | 2 | 350 | 2,855 | 50 | 80 | 528 | 1021 | 4,884 | 3,285 | ||||||
Hibernian | 2 | 350 | 200 | 100 | 1100 | 3,087 | 75 | 725 | 516 | 1501 | 7,654 | 5,562 | |||
Livingston | 2 | 50 | 50 | 200 | 3,762 | 175 | 345 | 50 | 1340 | 5,922 | 4,407 | ||||
Nairn County | 2 | 200 | 3,122 | 25 | 35 | 166 | 395 | 3,943 | 3,357 | ||||||
Peterhead | 2 | 200 | 2,700 | 25 | 30 | 373 | 190 | 3,518 | 2,930 | ||||||
Ross County | 2 | 300 | 200 | 2,891 | 50 | 490 | 969 | 205 | 5,105 | 3,881 | |||||
Stranraer | 2 | 550 | 200 | 2,971 | 75 | 390 | 0 | 295 | 4,481 | 4,111 | |||||
Annan Athletic | 3 | 550 | 200 | 100 | 3,764 | 125 | 240 | 377 | 267 | 5,623 | 4,854 | ||||
Ayr United | 3 | 200 | 2,708 | 50 | 45 | 226 | 3,229 | 2,953 | |||||||
Berwick | 3 | 2,543 | 0 | 190 | 2,733 | 2,543 | |||||||||
Brechin City | 3 | 250 | 3,252 | 100 | 200 | 670 | 100 | 1894 | 6,466 | 3,802 | |||||
Cove Rangers | 3 | 3,427 | 100 | 180 | 297 | 150 | 4,154 | 3,607 | |||||||
Deveronvale | 3 | 550 | 200 | 2,686 | 25 | 100 | 260 | 1410 | 5,231 | 3,536 | |||||
Dundee United | 3 | 300 | 3,051 | 50 | 45 | 180 | 100 | 200 | 3,926 | 3,496 | |||||
East Stirlingshire | 3 | 200 | 2,625 | 25 | 25 | 180 | 1197 | 4,252 | 2,850 | ||||||
Elgin City | 3 | 550 | 200 | 3,161 | 125 | 150 | 394 | 4,580 | 4,061 | ||||||
Kilmarnock | 3 | 550 | 800 | 2,728 | 50 | 0 | 545 | 4,673 | 4,078 | ||||||
Montrose | 3 | 2,887 | 75 | 0 | 115 | 3,077 | 2,887 | ||||||||
Partick Thistle | 3 | 200 | 100 | 2,506 | 25 | 125 | 0 | 1420 | 4,376 | 2,931 | |||||
Queen of the South | 3 | 100 | 200 | 2,912 | 100 | 265 | 182 | 500 | 4,259 | 3,477 | |||||
Queens Park | 3 | 200 | 2,970 | 25 | 75 | 90 | 92 | 3,452 | 3,245 | ||||||
Saint Mirren | 3 | 200.0 | 200 | 2,582 | 50 | 285 | 200 | 230 | 865 | 4,412 | 3,267 | ||||
Stirling | 3 | 200 | 2,875 | 50 | 25 | 0 | 3,150 | 3,100 |
Headings show
DIV : Division
Adj : Adjustments
Bet : Income from cup betting
Bio : Income from Bio / About
Draw : Participation in cup draw online
Div Rvw : Income from writing front page divisional reviews
Gate : Total gate money
MVP : MVP
Party : Participation Bonus
Pred : Prediction League Winnings
Retire : Income from retirements (both opportunities combined)
SA : Income from Sponsorship Admin
Trade : Income from trades
Total : all of the above (except DIV) added together
Total B : This total excludes MVP, Trades and Retirements as I am not sure they are relevant to the discussion
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 52:
Celtic - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWW)
Stats suggest that is not true Alon, as someone below said 44 out of 48 managers didn't want take a turn doing divisional reviews.
What is a fair payment for division reviews Alon? State your price, and ask to take a turn?
Someone gets participation cash for posting EPL predictions that has no relevance to Sesl whatsoever. Would you continue doing EPL predictions next season and forfeit any participation payments? If not, why not?
I'm OK with EPL thing as it create interaction, so I mention it only as a comparison.
I think Alon is a top top manager who has turned ALB around in recent seasons and will win Div 1 next season or two.
My participation is down this season also - that is MY fault, and not the economy of Sesl or due to "overpayments" to active managers who keep the community feel going in my humble opinion.
Has been too high for a long time to be honest I've considered giving up over the last few seasons as it's not a level playing field. That and no longer being the in the same division as EST although I'm working on that.
Maybe all the bonuses are to high compared to the gate receipts.
Try reducing all of them for a season and maybe increase gate receipts slightly.
As I know we are in a minority I am throwing my weight behind James Tucker .
I have to agree with what he says. There should be a limit to the advantage that can be gained
by writing posts/reviewsin a resource management game. The overpayment for divisional reviews is the biggest
culprit and should be much less..
Hi David,
> I do a divisional review but actually think the 100k is fine.
> The Rules say each manager is supposed to do at least 3 Journals pwer season. I wouldn't push that if I was a Commish, but even 3 (reasonable) entries would get a manager pretty close to 100k.
Both true. The minor difference is that the review 100k is paid every week - while the 3 journals pay out 100k per season.
> My extra money over James is due to the fact I am happy to spend time being involved in the set up and yes, get paid for it.
I am all for participation, and rewarding it.
Like James, I don't like the silly amount.
HIB did get 2125k from various participation sources - so far, end of season payouts pending.
Those amounts are simply breaking the economy.
I do like reading the occasional journal and note - and getting a sense of community.
In a football sim, I do think that a working econonmy is much more important.
A simple solution would be just capping the party income (all sources combined) per season to e.g. 500k.
This would still reward participation, but the effective difference of 4 CPs would have no major impact on the game balance.
Without blowing my own horn, but ELG and QOS did remarkably well this season.
Club | Start season T17 | End season T17 |
Elgin | 16 | 2 |
QOS | 15 (17.1) | 4 (22.2) |
didn't keep track of the average of ELG, but we improved 5 odd points.
Up to next season!
With Paul on this one......
Boo!! Hiss!!
Shame on those that do it.
In order to drum up more party bonuses I may start up a segment called the Weekly Waffle where I ponder on random stuff that has nothing to do with the game.
There was another manager who used to do that brilliantly in one of the games we played. He would talk about hiking in the hills of the US avoiding cougars etc, Can't remember his name if anyone can help out?
His name was William, but I'm not sure if it's Bill or Billy or Mac or Buddy?
We recently had an engagement (fun/wellbeing etc) activity at work where everyone was asked to vote for who was the Most Supportive, Best Dressed Man/Woman and Prom King and Queen etc. Just fun stuff.
The guys running it had to say that only people receiving 2 votes of more would be recognised as one guy voted for himself in all categories
....is NEVER, EVER justified, Matt....
I believe we won a cup my vote for myself is fully justified this season!
1. Have any of the Managers stuffed your Xmas stocking full of $$$$? If YES, vote for them in descending order of $$$$.
2. Is SRA listed at all? A highly unlikely scenario but if YES then vote for SRA
3. Check the Managers listed. Will any of the them be in a different Division to SRA next season? If YES then vote for any one of them as the extra $$$$ will not be matched against SRA.
4. If all the Managers will be in the same Division as SRA then add "Other" and vote for SRA as the poll setter has clearly forgotten to add us.
1. Dont pick ALB
2. Dont pick KIL
After that pick what is most important to you. Whether it is a manager performing above their means, doing well in the cups and league, or just bossing the league. After it all, it is your vote and nobody Trumps your vote
What is criteria when picking top coach in poll vote for each candidate?
Is cup performance factored in also when some managers reviewing options?
Gonna earn my money this week for sure..
I do a divisional review but actually think the 100k is fine (less and it isn't so interesting, but I am happy with the current amount). I too was only supposed to do half a season, but again nobody came forward to sub me, so I stayed in. I love it, you get to know the teams in your division more... Mark could abandon these reviews but I think the game could suffer - many managers earn by reviewing their own teams performances in the Journal, and get paid for it. Overall SESL blossoms due to daily participation throughout - maybe only in MHO, but that counts too.
The Rules say each manager is supposed to do at least 3 Journals pwer season. I wouldn't push that if I was a Commish, but even 3 (reasonable) entries would get a manager pretty close to 100k.
My extra money over James is due to the fact I am happy to spend time being involved in the set up and yes, get paid for it - RR gets 750k more than me in league matches alone being a division higher...(25k extra per match.. just saying) - I make it up by writing.
Good subject, and a good earner when managers comment on it.... :-)
At the start of every season, Mark asks for volunteers for 'Front page Divisional reviewers' and pretty much every season i put my name forward with the proviso that he should give other managers preference and call on me if all else fails. As i'm sure many have noticed, it is nearly always the same small minority that accept the job and that includes myself.
The KK's are certainly a decent incentive IMO and come in very useful. Personally i am more than happy to read other folks reports etc but i am equally happy to 'sit on the bench' unless required.
I'm not sure I can manage 75k from blog postings in 2 days to then win 100k
I hadn't realised my participation was so low this year
James at Raith makes decent discussion points.
It's a balance though with incentives- I was asked to step in as a one-off replacement for a front page divisional review, but I felt the workload of reviewing 16 matches was not worth the 100k.
There doesn't seem a queue of volunteers willing to write match reviews and keep the front web page "fresh".
43 or 44 managers out of 48 didn't think it worth 100k bonus per week to andwer the request for vunteers a few times during this seaaon. Economics dictates the price needs be of sufficient incentive. Currently the vast majority do not wish write divisional reviews - for a variety.of reasons. Could be time constraints or disconnection with set up at times. But lowering the participation bonus would see even less likely of new.volunteers coming forward.
RR had a decent season I think, after a tricky start. I don't want navigate away as I type incase I lose this text to my browser refreshing, but I noticed from memory a win then lose strategy by RR that is a decent plan. Sometimes 4.or 6 points from 9.
Plenty for James at RR to shout about this season. If he had the inclination ofcourse.
π
All what you say is true David, but the bonus is too much. Hibs have 700K more than Raith. The game is at the end of the day a resource management game - and as the main resource is cash - is it right that the game be skewed by those who like writing? I won't get extra cash in Monopoly at Christmas through my exellence (or otherwise) at consequences. It is a balance, but I think there is too much money from Participation. And I argue this each time the subject comes up without much success so I am at least consistent.
And while I have great acknowledgement for the mighty efforts the division reviewers go to, I am sorry to say I don't think I have read any more than the comments on Raith's games and the Div 1 summary, nor do I read any journals.
(I also have little liking for betting, sponsorship and end of season awards!)
The challenge and enjoyment is the game, and that is what keeps me plugging away season after season with the increasingly forlorn hope of ever winning a league title.
I appreciate I am in the non vocal minority, so so be it.
Like James I have played the game for hundreds of years but unlike him, I enjoy the blogging and Journalling - although I WILL admit, if there was no participation cash for them likely I would cut so far back as to be minimal.
It is part of involving managers in discussions, views, talking about their clubs etc - many online games have NO interactiion amongst managers at all - I have played dozens of them so know (as does Derek now).
One more thing - OASL is well run by Andy (and I like to think it was well run by myself and certainly Dave Dowson before me) but it suffers from a lack of participating by managers - it is largely entering the team lines, read the match results/reports and entering team lines etc. It becomes "colder" which is something I would not like to see in SESL. Participating is actually in the rules - and I wouldn't like to see it coming out.
(Mark reserves the right to award some decent progression/discussionm/comment and not just a silly message of no interest to SESL.) Taking part is up to the individual, of course, but don't take away some clubs extra income..
Next somebody is going to suggest we dispense with divisional reviews and divisional predictions..........slippy slope methinks! :-)
I agree with both Matt and Paul. After 40+ seasons my enthusiasm for blog posts and journal writing is non existent, having run out of ideas many seasons ago. I also find it frustrating that non writers are penalised in the game so severely. I am around 700K down on some teams. 22 Managers have posted for less than 100K, so we are not a small minority, 9 nothing at all. A 1K per 5 characters, still means 250 characters to produce 50K
Of course it is my choice not to post and disadvantage myself, and I have in the past enjoyed some of the discussions, but the participation bonus is out of kilter with the game itself. I have always thought there should be other encouragements related to game play. Early order bonus, number of posts on the transaction board perhaps.
Maybe I will see what AI generation can do, seeing as no manager has ever offered to meet my inducement on the Team Needs page!
This post is 452
...we'll say something!
FOR's season could be saved in the next match if we manage to avoid relegation.
I think we have a chance, but MON has a good team and we look like the underdogs here...
In the cups we got unlucky to draw Mark's STJ on both and we were quite easily disposed of.
More after the match!
Sponsorship cash of an extra 100k for free if these teams post a few blogs in next couple of weeks.
INV need earn another 50k in participation bonus for the free 100k on top,
RR to earn 70k more, AI 100k, CEL 100k, CB 100k, DFA 100k, FOR 55k,
AYR 55k, BER 100k, MON 100k, and finally
STI 75k more participation to earn another 100k for free
GM need earn 20k more. This post should help lol
Team Sponsor detail lifted from front page:-
Earn 100k in participation bonus
Div 1: ALB DEE DUM HAM INV RR
Div 2: EDI AI CEL CB DFA FOR GM ROS
Div 3: AYR BER COV DEV MON QOS STI
pays out 100k for free sponsorship
default sponsor for all teams not winning a lot 1-10
For the best and most up to date info.....
Click on your team homepage.....
Click on Account....
Loads of enlightening info about YOUR teams finances and also comparable info with the rest of SESL.
Then you really know where your team stands, especially compared to other teams.
Still few left this season to earn extra dosh for CP next season
Participation Earnings (k) ABE - 0 KIL - 0 PET - 30 DFA - 0 HIB - 725 BER - 0 RAN - 25 AYR - 45 INV - 50 EDI - 795 CEL - 0 STJ - 230 STE - 195 QOS - 265 ALB - 95 DUU - 45 LIV - 345 ROS - 490 ALO - 590 HEA - 220 MOT - 610 COV - 180 RR - 30 ELG - 0 FAL - 370 PT - 125 ANN - 240 STI - 25 COW - 410 ARB - 320 SM - 285 DEE - 610 FOR - 45 CB - 0 AI - 0 FRA - 320 MON - 0 DUM - 160 EST - 25 CLY - 235 HAM - 115 NAI - 35 EF - 820 BRE - 200 QP - 75 DEV - 100 SRA - 390 GM - 80
Some good comments here, except a specific payment for certain amounts of characters. Mark has it right - amount depends upon the number of posts AND the quality.
There can never be payments made for a certain amount of posts or words - quantity will always get a payment, the amount will depend on the content. Has to be..
(This should get me 100k, but I'll refuse it - it'll be going to the 3rd division anyway. The money, not the team!!) ππ
Not sure why I am in the firing line, but consider me warned
:)
I think party bonus should be paid according to the number of characters in the post, 1k per 5 charactersm rounded down.
Yep!
"The act of deliberately making meaningless and trivial comments just to gain tiny amounts of participation cash at the expense of annoying all other managers."
If I knew I needed the participation cash to hit my sponsorship
Nice image Arnold.
QOS went from D3 16th to D3 2nd place is impressive.
with their own line. Okay Ill stop now
I do enjoy Matts 12 blog posts on one day
Unfortunately Ive not been as invested in the game (Im not leaving dont worry). But EST are far behind. We created the rivalry because it ultimately hellped us both enjoy a different aspect of the game, while also being a Spurs / Arsenal rivalry in real life.
It will always be my number one rivalry in SESL, but I think Im looking for a new candidate to abuse in Division 3 next season... Mr. Campbell you have been warned.
You know my thoughts I believe Bill. I like to play a football game not a football journalism game!
Each to their own, I'd post more often but have found it boring not being able to make multiple posts about how bad EST are. Cos they actually are at the moment. Tyron had the same problem a few seasons back when ESt were in the top division and we chasing the wooden spoon!
Couldn't help myself
A very tough week with low scores all around as the games were on the whole difficult to predict.
David Blair managed better than the rest of us to get the W.
No predictions this week as we go into the final international break of the year.
David Blair 9.0
Andy Shaw 8.5
Andrew Foss Grant 7.5
Paul Cockyne 7.0
Alon Atie 6.0
Dave Smyth 5.0
Raymond Cini 4.5
Andrew McCumiskey 2.5
Hey Matt...
If you could be bothered to post once a week maybe ??
You would not have to bother at the end of each and EVERY season to ask that question....
Just saying lol
Never noticed that. Cheers Colin.
Participation cash is shown in your accounts page. ALB currently on 95k so that 5k post should get you over the line Matt. ;-)
Though we got relegated on the bright side we still beat that other team languishing in Div3!
We can have the participation money shown we've been awarded so far so I can know how many blogs and journals I have to meet my sponser award. Here's another 5k towards it I suppose!
It's 3 seasons of golden gloves and 1 of the young gloves awards I think for Gk Gracie.
Certainly impressive.
However, the Gloves formula heavily favors ALB's style of play - so it's not THIS surprising.
An honorable mention should go to Dumbarton.
DUM's rather unlikely win at MOT moved them from a relegation playoff spot to money spot #6.
ALB GK Gracie has won golden gloves again. Certainly 2 years running, but I think the last 3 seasons, or even 4, not sure.
ALB finished bottom of Div 1 bizarrely despite this club legend GK between the sticks.
Love the way CLY sauntered into history by winning the title despite losing the final four matches! A true legend and a wonderful season for Raymond and the Cats.....their first ever I think?
Impressive progress in Div 3 for some.
Jason may be silent in Sesl, but he does his talking on the pitch.
15 point margin of victory in final league table is damn fine football.
Remarkable
One team won promotion from Div 3 on goal diffence.
While 4 teams ended on same 39 points in Div 1. The team out of that four with worst goal difference now meet a playoff with their biggest rivals in real Scottish football.
Interesting.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 51:
Hearts - MVP #7: 25k (WwW)
East Fife - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWd)
Queens Park - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Stirling - MVP #4: 1 CP (DwW)
Promotion and relegation still up for grabs for some.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 50:
Fraserburgh - MVP #5: 25k (wWW)
Elgin City - MVP #7: 25k (wWW)
Ayr United - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Queen of the South - MVP #6: 25k (wDw)
It's final day eve and running alongside the many remaining promotion and relegation questions we still have have some unanswered for this season's Prediction League.
East Fife remain favourites, they have a 2 point lead but Motherwell only need to score 5 or more and better them by 1 to draw alongside.
It looks like they 2 will fight it out for top spot as the next in line are a further 3 points behind Motherwell. It's a bit of a dog fight for the remaining prizes any from a pile of about 10 or so.
Here are the provisional prize spots, a reminder that if teams are equal the prizes are shared so if teams tie others can quickly be brought into the prize picture.
Here are the standings, any issues let me know. I updated the the Stirling/St. Mirren incorrect assignment from Round 8.
Brentford 0-1 Bournemouth
Brighton 0-3 Man City
Chelsea 1-0 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 2-1 Fulham
Liverpool 1-0l1 Aston Villa
Man United 4-1 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 1-1 Newcastle
Tottenham 4-1 Ipswich Town
West Ham 0-2 Everton
Wolves 3-1 Southampton
EPL
Brentford 2-1 Bournemouth
Brighton 0-3 Man City
Chelsea 1-1 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 2-1 Fulham
Liverpool 3-0 Aston Villa
Man United 4-1 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 1-1 Newcastle
Tottenham 4-1 Ipswich Town
West Ham 0-2 Everton
Wolves 3-1 Southampton
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 9 Winners:
ELG(50) LIV(50)
Results from last Saturday's Round 9. Please inbox me with any misses, queries.
A few away win shocks this week, notably Morton and Peterhead picking up nice wins.
Banker selection came up Trumps (too soon?), Arbroath saving some low scores.
Well said Arnold on season admin, and the behind the scenes support team including EDI HIB EF KIL COW MOT and others probably.
QOS on a great run and signs suggest a positive end to the QOS season.
Well, the end of the season is nearing.
We can have it all. An unexpected promotion, or all the drama of missing out on the last matchday.
Whatever happens, playoffs or not, QOS have had a good season.
Thanks again to Mark and all others volunteering to whatever task. You all make the game brilliant fun.
Brentford 1-0 Bournemouth
Brighton 0-2 Man City
Chelsea 1-2 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 2-1 Fulham
Liverpool 3-1 Aston Villa
Man United 2-1 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 1-2 Newcastle
Tottenham 4-1 Ipswich Town
West Ham 3-1 Everton
Wolves 2-2 Southampton
Brentford 1-1 Bournemouth
Brighton 1-3 Man City
Chelsea 1-2 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 2-1 Fulham
Liverpool 3-1 Aston Villa
Man United 2-1 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 1-2 Newcastle
Tottenham 4-1 Ipswich Town
West Ham 3-1 Everton
Wolves 2-0 Southampton
Brentford 2-1 Bournemouth
Brighton 1-2 Man City
Chelsea 2-2 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 2-1 Fulham
Liverpool 2-1 Aston Villa
Man United 3-1 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 2-0 Newcastle
Tottenham 3-0 Ipswich Town
West Ham 1-2 Everton
Wolves 1-0 Southampton
Brentford 1-2 Bournemouth
Brighton 1-1 Man City
Chelsea 1-0 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 1-0 Fulham
Liverpool 3-0 Aston Villa
Man United 2-1 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 2-1 Newcastle
Tottenham 3-0 Ipswich Town
West Ham 2-0 Everton
Wolves 0-2 Southampton
Brentford 2-2 Bournemouth
Brighton 1-3 Man City
Chelsea 1-1 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 1-0 Fulham
Liverpool 3-1 Aston Villa
Man United 2-1 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 2-1 Newcastle
Tottenham 3-1 Ipswich Town
West Ham 2-1 Everton
Wolves 2-0 Southampton
Sorry for the late posting ,I was away in China.
Brentford 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Brighton 1 - 2 Man. City
Chelsea 1 - 2 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Fulham
Liverpool 2 - 0 Aston Villa
Man. United 2 - 0 Leicester City
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Newcastle
Tottenham 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
West Ham 2 - 1 Everton
Wolves 2 - 1 Southampton
Alon Atie 9.5
Andy Shaw 8.0
David Blair 7.0
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 49:
ALB(300) ANN(300) ARB(200) CLY(200) COW(300) DEV(300) DUM(300) DEE(300) DUU(300) EF(100) EDI(200) ELG(300) FAL(300) FRA(100) HIB(200) INV(300) KIL(300) MOT(300) ROS(100) STJ(200) SRA(300)
Div 1, 10th-13th place in table are sat just 3 points of a difference.
Div 2, 11th to 14th also 3 points spread.
While Div 3 positions 2nd to 5th are separated by 5 points.
Good luck all this league final weekend.
The following teams receive Betting on Cup Final through match 49:
ALB(-100) ANN(-100) ARB(-100) CLY(-100) COW(-100) DEV(-100) DUM(-100) DEE(-100) DUU(-100) EF(-100) EDI(-100) ELG(-100) FAL(-100) FRA(-100) HAM(-100) HIB(-100) INV(-100) KIL(-100) LIV(-100) MOT(-100) ROS(-100) STJ(-100) SRA(-100)
I didn't realise which round it was.
I made an entry - not sure what I scored or if it was illegal but it's still there.
Just a minor, yet important correction:
St Mirren's 7 pts were awarded incorrectly and should be awarded Stirling instead.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 8 Winners:
COW(50) FAL(50)
Hi all, playing a little bit catchup here. Round 9 to follow asap as we head into the final round on Saturday.
I'll get straight to the point so I can get on with Round 9 results.
Congratulations to Cowdenbeath (can't beat a bit self .. erm congratulation.) and Falkirk, 50k each.
Any issues with scores pease inbox me.
Round 10 is now live on the Notebook.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Nov 3rd:
ALB(25) ARB(20) CLY(20) COW(15) DEE(20) EF(40) EDI(50) FAL(35) FRA(30) GM(10) HAM(25) HIB(50) LIV(20) MOT(50) PT(10) ROS(40) STJ(20) STE(20)
No apology is necessary but it helps me work out if I can afford to bet on the cup final.
I did anyway.
No apology necessary Andy.
If money paid out before next pre-season then no issue if paid now on few weeks time.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Oct 27th:
ALO(50) ARB(40) BRE(30) CLY(25) COV(40) COW(50) DEE(35) EF(50) EDI(20) FAL(25) FRA(25) GM(10) HAM(15) HEA(10) LIV(10) MOT(50) QP(20) ROS(40) SRA(35)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Oct 20th:
ARB(20) AYR(10) DEE(35) EF(50) EDI(15) FAL(35) FRA(20) HEA(10) HIB(50) MOT(20) NAI(10) ROS(40) STJ(10) SRA(50)
Yes - I'm certainly behind on the participation payouts. I will get the two weeks I've missed done now and will hopefully have time tomorrow to handle this week that's just ending. Apologies for getting a bit behind!
Both sides have very good disciplinary records... fully expect that to remain in tact regardless of this being a Final
not given a penalty yet... ?
Cup final prediction is a 1-1 then 8-7 on penalty shoot out!
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Actually Colin Scott is the only referee who has given less than an average one caution per game
And it seems only Steve Turner and a certain David Blair are the only referees who are averaging over 2 cautions per match. And I've not given a penalty yet.. π€π€
How influential could the ref be?
Match 49 | ||
SESL CUP FINAL | ||
Hamilton Accies vs East Fife | ||
Referee is Colin Scott |
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 48:
Stenhousemuir - MVP #6: 25k (WdW)
Dumbarton - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Arbroath - MVP #6: 25k (wWd)
Stranraer - MVP #5: 25k (WwD)
Hibernian - MVP #5: 25k (WwD)
Time gentlemen, please.
You mean Rangers Morton and Clyde??
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 47:
Aberdeen - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Livingston - MVP #9: 25k (wDW)
Annan Athletic - MVP #7: 25k (WwD)
Brechin City - MVP #6: 25k (WdW)
Don't forget that with the clocks going back last week....
Games are now 3pm & 4pm kick-offs.
John,
I have this theory that many air heads reckon they can coin it in by being Tik Tokkers (or influencers) by not having to actually work, but because they feel people will pay just to look at them and listen to their drivel.
No, wait, there ARE gullible fools out there in their thousands paying good money for this rubbish, or they wouldn't be doing it.
(Now, how do I go about a name change for my 2nd keeper - Phil - he couldn't save in a secure bank far less a pass back) :-)
Yes, correct on the time stamps. An issue I was rectifying with my time stamped blog post containing the prediction.
As mentioned in the post, I was quite comfortable with the commish deeming me too late to bet. My own fault for waiting until the last minute.
Someone named GK Barry is going to the jungle on I'm A Celebrity tv show.
I've seen a few sesl goalkeepers called "Harry" but not Barry, but this bint is biggest UK tik toker. Deary me.
Get your entries in.
Sorry folks. I dropped off the radar for a couple weeks there. All good and back. David sorry for not completing the league match reviews.
SESL Cup final betting HAM v EF match 49, Nov 6th
Costs 100k to double money if pick wins tie
ANYTIME goal scorer guess for a free 100k win.
Head to the poll vote area of front page to place your bet.
It's double money for the Final - 100k a go.
Money back bonus if you guess a goal scorer in the final.
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 46:
ALB(150) BRE(100) DEV(100) DUM(150) DEE(100) EF(150) EDI(100) ELG(100) FAL(150) FRA(150) GM(100) HIB(100) KIL(150) LIV(50) ROS(50) STJ(50)
The bets aren't timed but every time the coach goes into the site it registers his last timing - and keeps it there for some time - front page bottom left...
But can't see anybody being daft enough to try that one - if found out his reputation would be in tatters (and his team looking for a new coach - HEY! he could apply for Man Utd - I heard that one is vacant...) !! :-)
Bets aren't time stamped, so someone could place a bet after cup match has ran,
and how could that scenario be adjudicated will be the issue.
Clocks have changed this side of the pond Andy.
Something about helping farmers.
Maybe they could leave clocks as they are now, and farmers just adjust their working hours to daylight hours. meh.
MOT over 2 hours after deadline. Think you are on to plumbs mate. Just like a fruit farmer.
A few minutes past the scheduled betting deadline from me, but still before the match has run. Not sure if it counts, and totally ok if I'm too late, but I will post that I bet HAM-Harris for transparency. Again, no problem if I'm too late to bet.
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through match 46:
ALB(-50) ARB(-50) BRE(-50) CLY(-50) DEV(-50) DUM(-50) DEE(-50) EF(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) FRA(-50) GM(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) KIL(-50) LIV(-50) ROS(-50) STJ(-50) SRA(-50)
Available in the Notebook now.
Division 2 this weekend.
Will update round 8 results tomorrow.
Hasn't been paid out for a couple of weeks and I need to sort out my finances.
If that's possible!
Bournemouth 1-2 Man City
Fulham 2-1 Brentford
Ipswich Town 1-0 Leicester City
Liverpool 3-1 Brighton
Man United 1-3 Chelsea
Newcastle 0-2 Arsenal
Nottingham Forest 2-1 West Ham
Southampton 2-1 Everton
Tottenham 2-1 Aston Villa
Wolves 1-0 Crystal Palace
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through to match 45:
EF(300) EDI(300) HIB(300)
Whichever way the 2 matches turn out, all credit to East Fife and Ross County for reaching this stage. Facing St Johnstone and Hamilton Accies respectively won't be easy but they have surpassed themselves even getting here. And the 2nd division has 50% of the teams playing this Wednesday.
Whilst East Fife are fighting on a 2nd front - looking for a playoff spot - County are fighting a different battle - against relegation. Both teams have decisions to make - good luck to both of them whatever the outcomes. :-)
Bournemouth 0 - 3 Man. City
Fulham 2 - 2 Brentford
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 Leicester City
Liverpool 2 - 0 Brighton
Man. United 2 - 1 Chelsea
Newcastle 1 - 2 Arsenal
Nottingham Forest 0 - 0 West Ham
Southampton 1 - 1 Everton
Tottenham 3 - 2 Aston Villa
Wolves 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Poll vote area of front page if you fancy a flutter on Wednesdays cup match 46.
SESL Cup betting ROS v HAM match 46, Oct 30th
Costs 50k to double money if pick wins tie
ANYTIME goal scorer guess for a free 50k win.
Betting closes 12:00 Wed 30th Oct
when 50k deducted from each team betting
Nope - I got my 4 x litres of the falling down juice EARLY.
Apologies if the reviews are smaller etc but I had got someone to step in for me, no idea why it didn't happen, but hey ho, the reviews have been done since I got home at 2pm.
Nice work David.
Hope no pirates stole your duty free on the cruise!
Gents, I have been away on a cruise since a week yesterday and I had lined up one of my fellow managers to do the reviews. However I noticed they hadn't been done, so Mark asked me to put them up even at this late stage. The first session is now up, and the 2nd session will be on by 6pm maximum. :-)
Was hoping like Bill he would stay a bit longer and Man U get relegated!
Bournemouth 0 - 2 Man. City
Fulham 2 - 1 Brentford
Ipswich Town 2 - 1 Leicester City
Liverpool 2 - 0 Brighton
Man. United 1 - 1 Chelsea
Newcastle 1 - 2 Arsenal
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 West Ham
Southampton 1 - 1 Everton
Tottenham 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Wolves 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
So I got the win ,but feel it should have gone to Andy Shaw for getting the most signifigant reult of West Ham over Man United.
Alon Atie 9.5
Andy Shaw 8
Paul Cockyne 6.5
Andrew Foss Grant 4.5
Sorry William
Much to the disapointment of everyone, except I suspect most Man United fans he is now officially gone.
The manager with a thousand unbelievable excuses...
The club with a thousand unrealistic expectations...
A match made in heaven.
I hope he stays forever.
When you are behind 3 bang average sides in the table (sitting 14th) and you are one of the most famous clubs in the world, then time for a change.
Time up?
That video is great.
I thought alcohol was banned st Scottish stadiums!
.....it was against SRA and I am still in disbelief that someone could score a Hat-trick from the operating theatre against us....Fi-ji will probably still be scoring long after retirement.....
Alas, was a few seasons ago, so the full match report is gone. Can only see excerpts from it in the blog archive from 2023.
Here is the history page for that match, however. Doesn't have the juicy details, unfortunately
http://109.228.6.206/sesl/matchhistory.php?id=39774
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 45:
Forfar Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Stirling - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwD)
Queen of the South - MVP #5: 25k (DwW)
Montrose - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
Dundee United - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
For those who have never heard of them, they play in La Liga.
I don't think Berwick will win by a barrel load, but it might be a real Firkin.
Does he have the same hair colour as Ronald Koeman? As in "that blond man should not be on the pitch".
We've had COVID, and now today is COV EL.
I'm sure a few of us shall be checking the COV match commentary first this afternoon.
Fascinated how this match will last 90 minutes with so low EL on offer.
BER will surely switch to Press team tactic if not winning by a barrel load at half time in match 44.
Which match number was Fu Ji magic happen?
I scanned thru some matches but couldn't see it, so share the magic please Andy!
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 44:
Dundee FC - MVP #3: 1 TP (WdW)
Arbroath - MVP #5: 25k (Wdw)
Clydebank - MVP #8: 25k (WDw)
Min 73: Fu Ji(PT) is stretchered off No Subs Available!!
Min 77: Partick Thistle break quickly with Andy Geggan... ...great save by Dagmer Cleftjaw but the ball falls to Fu Ji... ...who slots the ball into the vacant net. GOAL!!!!!...
Min 81: Talisa Maegyr heads away but only to Fu Ji (PT)... ...a neat hit and Dagmer Cleftjaw doesn't have time parry the shot. GOAL. ...Partick Thistle are looking strong now...
Min 89: Fu Ji(PT) limps off the pitch No Subs Available!!
I expected COV to trade in a couple of high EL (low SL) players just to get next 2natches out the way.
CEL looked to have 4 TP excess they will lose at season end as 10 TP max you can hold before 40 TP added.
It's calculated every minute - based on your total available SL at the start of the game. It will go below 100% if you get an injury because no one will be able to come on as a substitute. But what might happen instead is players not being able to go off so continue playing with an injury. I think this happened relatively recently with an injured player scoring.
Is available SL calculated once at the start of the match, or is it recalculated every minute? As we will finish today's first game with only 7 players having positive EL, but (hopefully) still 11 players on the pitch, could our SL% go above 100?
Nice plan Steve, but I was thinking of Press just to see how close we can get to 90-0.
Any last minute trades?
Has to have never happened in history of Sesl surely?
Play everyone passive, SW in goal and the rest 5-4-1 Stall.
Put all injured players as substitute.
You might get injuries but won't get a blowout fines as you'll start at 100% (injured/suspended players don't count).
I've proposed a trade to help you Stevie G.
EST sends 3 TP to EF for 270k
Division 1 feature tomorrow, only 6 entries so far.
NAI sends Jonathan Bain (0/20 DF) to EF for 300k, Sean Docherty (0/17 DF)
I am in danger of encountering the dreaded Robin Hood rule some the end of the season. I'd like to shed about 200k if I can. If anyone has a couple of CPs or TPs they don't need, please make me an offer.
And both goalkeepers suspended. Any chance the prediction league is in division 3 this weekend?
Arsenal 1 - 2 Liverpool
Aston Villa 3 - 1 Bournemouth
Brentford 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Brighton 1 - 0 Wolves
Chelsea 3 - 0 Newcastle
Crystal Palace 1 - 3 Tottenham
Everton 2 - 2 Fulham
Leicester City 1 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Man. City 3 - 1 Southampton
West Ham 1 - 4 Man. United
.... and some of those are low on EL.
Not me - but a team who played a cup game today have face the dilemma of a 18 man roster/rooster.
FOR sends 101k to ARB for Moises Caicedo (4/14 MF)
STJ sends 1 TP to DFA for 96k
EF sends 95k to HAM for 1 TP
SM sends 200k to STJ for 2 TP
18 out of 20 (not me) guessed an anytime goalscorer from DUM v EF today.
Amazed why other 28 managers don't utilise this generous cup betting cash give away opportunity.
Many banked a 100k profit today for little effort.
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 43:
ALB(50) ANN(150) ARB(50) BRE(150) CLY(100) COW(150) DEV(150) DUM(150) DEE(50) DFA(150) EF(150) ELG(50) FRA(50) GM(100) HEA(150) HIB(50) INV(150) MOT(50) STJ(50) SRA(150)
The following teams receive Adjustment through betting on match 43:
INV(-50) LIV(50)
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through match 43:
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) ARB(-50) BRE(-50) CLY(-50) COW(-50) DEV(-50) DUM(-50) DEE(-50) DFA(-50) EF(-50) ELG(-50) FRA(-50) GM(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) STJ(-50) SRA(-50)
Arsenal 2-1 Liverpool
Aston Villa 2-1 Bournemouth
Brentford 2-0 Ipswich Town
Brighton 2-1 Wolves
Chelsea 2-2 Newcastle
Crystal Palace 1-2 Tottenham
Everton 1-1 Fulham
Leicester City 1-2 Nottingham Forest
Man City 5-0 Southampton
West Ham 1-1 Man United
Arsenal 1-1 Liverpool
Aston Villa 2-0 Bournemouth
Brentford 3-0 Ipswich Town
Brighton 2-1 Wolves
Chelsea 3-1 Newcastle
Crystal Palace 0-3 Tottenham
Everton 2-1 Fulham
Leicester City 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Man City 4-0 Southampton
West Ham 2-1 Man United
Gameweek starts friday night this week so please get your entries in early.
Arsenal 2 - 1 Liverpool
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Brentford 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
Brighton 2 - 0 Wolves
Chelsea 2 - 1 Newcastle
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Tottenham
Everton 1 - 1 Fulham
Leicester City 1 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Man. City 3 - 0 Southampton
West Ham 1 - 2 Man. United
Tight at the top this week
Paul Roseblade 10.0
Alon Atie 10.0
Paul Cockyne 9.0
Andy Shaw 8.0
Andrew McCumiskey 8.0
David Blair 5.5
ALB sends 480k to HIB for 4 CP
Compliments for the compliment Eduard :-)
I think your analysis on several items in Sesl are great.
You are an asset to the game here.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 7 Winners:
DEE(67) EF(67) MOT(67)
The sequence generation is quite trivial per se today, either via brute force programming (shuffling with constraints) or even a generative AI.
The bottleneck, though, is the interface to the SOS software. I see no point in Mark wasting his time entering the matches manually to solve this very minor "problem".
If it would be possible to shuffle the teams around (i.e. non-alphabetical) this would solve most issues with minimal effort. DEE e.g. would be quite content to pair with ANYONE but the beloved Hearts.
If this does not work with the current code, let's just play on.
I am pretty sure I can solve this "problem" in a different way.
Holidays oer so getting a chance to post prediction league results.
It's an important round the cup round, there is a pot of 200k and whatever you score keeps on your record. No hiding here.
I suspect if I had the time to look back that this would be one of the lowest scoring SESL lasts 16 rounds.
I certainly recall instances in the past of teams scoring perfectly.
Not the case this time around, we had an average of 4.8 which is just slightly above the average score for a normal round.
We had 4 matches that had winners with 30% of the predictions or less. No one predicted Dumbarton to go through against Cowdenbeath in normal time. Guess I had too many whiskey sours when putting in they orders.
We had 3 winners in the end East Fife, Dundee and Motherwell getting a nice 7 from 9. 67k each for their efforts.
Motherwell clearly having their eyes on Division 1 safety, the vast majority thinking Motherwell would go through. Motherwell were certainly sure that would not be the case. They went against themselves and stuck it down as a banker. Fair play, even keeping their score entry till the end. Well played MOT :-)
So how does that impact the overall table? Looks like we may have a run away leader?? East Fife on a remarkable run of form. Probably not seen such domination since Celtic used to predict perfect scores week after week.
Motherwell and St. Mirren look like the only team who could lay a glove on them, especially the Buddies as they have a zero score to improve on. But it certainly looks like it's East Fife's to lose.
As ever any issues with the scoring please inbox me.
It's now the final lap of Prediction League with each Division the focus over the next 3 weekends.
For the last time this season we visit division 1 this coming Saturday.
Notebook entried are now open.
I never noticed that before. Just looked at some teams at random and amazed to see that. Yes prokotion/relegation will mix things up a bit.
Paul's idea is a good one but I'm not sure how easy to do without errors.
I don't really think that the issue is who you play in the first fixture, so much as that everyone plays clubs in pretty much the same sequence.
Steve will probably know why this is...I imagine that the software works out the fixtures and the commish assigns dates to each set. If that is the case, it might be possible to mix things up by scheduling things "out of order" so making match 8 come first, then match 3, then match 13 for example....
Great insight Steve.
I wonder if team ID number could be used instead of abbreviation name?
ABE ID is number 1 when you hover over their team badge, ALB is 15, while ALO is 19.
Seems slightly more random.
KIL are team ID number 2. So ABE v KIL would be opening league match (only if those teams in same division ofcourse).
Bit of a minefiled though.
Currently with 4 to 6 teams being promoted or relegated each season, then alphabet order may change a bit in DIv 1 & 3 every season (like if SRA promoted as STeve mentioned),
while Div 2 will have 8 to 12 different teams each season so likely repeated season to season scheduled fixtures should not be an issue in Div 2 because of this team turnover each season.
As Paul says the teams play based on their alphabetical order. When I was at DEV (3rd at the time) we always played DUM (4th) for the first league game and that only changed when a team got promoted and pushed us to 4th and 5th - after several seasons. Another thing is that ABE, AI and ANN play Home, Away throughout the league schedule. ALO started with two home games, later had two away games (same weekend) and also have another sequence of two home and two away but split over two weeks or either side of the SESL Cup groups.
Over in TMVL there were two conferences of 8 teams with no promotion/relegation. My team always played the same four teams in the first two weeks, the only difference was switching home/away each season. At the time, three of those four teams were the best in the conference, which was hard fpr a weak team with a coach who didn't know what he was doing, like it was then. I suggested starting in a random point in the sequence. So if we applied this to SESL then instead of it being ABE vs ALB for league match 1 then ALO vs ABE for match 2. ABE vs ALB would be random from 1 to 30. It wouldn't stop the case where everyone throws the game against HEA then tries to beat DEE but at least ALO wouldn't have to play ABE and ALB first every season (looks unlikely next season anyway).
TMVL also had the situation where teams got two home games or two away games the same week, apart from one team in each conference - the same team each season. United also had this problem but "team 1" was just the team showing top of the table before a match was played. I never figured out how "team 1" and the rest were selected.
Al Sellers came back asking if I could devise a schedule where no team had two home games the same weekend. It took me f***king ages. I had to compromise. For instance in SESL we played ABE and CLY the first league weekend. We played them in the same order later (before/after SESL Cup groups) but split over consecutive league weeks. In TMVL the only way I could do it was have the reverse fixtures the same weekend in one instance. So we play Dallas and Arlington week 1, then the same two teams in week 4. We play Pekin and Ames in week 3 but the same two teams are in weeks 9 and 10. The other three teams we play are in a sort of round robin. The main difference is all the teams are randomly assigned to each slot. Next season the first two teams we play probably won't be Dallas and Arlington. The only other remit was to make sure your team played the other seven in the conference at least once in the first five weeks.
He then asked for a similar thing in United. I got lucky as this didn't seem to take as long despite having 10 teams per division rather than 8. It still has the problem of teams playing the same two at the same time (this time on three occasions), which I'm not happy with but can't work out how to avoid, but again teams are randomly assigned each season.
For SESL it would take a major rewrite of the software I think. The simplest would be to randomly assign the order of teams as shown at the top rather than alphabetically. We'd still get the HEA/DEE or STJ/MOT "problem"which could be changed depending on promotion/relegation if SRA get promoted to change the latter but likely no change if they don't.
Interesting. Can we rename our team to Aardvark Albion?
Yes, the first team alphabeitcally plays teams in a different sequence but everyone else plays in the same sequence, broken only when the play the first team alphabetically. It's not ideal but I'm not sure if the commish has any control over this. And I imagine that mucking around with it could easily result in teams have a run of home or away fixtures.
You've solved the mystery for me below - sorry, it has taken me a bit to look into it. But you mention the scheduling component to facing weaker or stronger lineups...and I've learned that we are always facing teams right after they have played against STJ, just with opposite home/away. So, for example, our last two away matches:
RAN went 54% SL at STJ and then 84% home to MOT
COW went 41% SL at STJ and then 62% home to MOT
Not saying that's unreasonable, I would do the same. But it helps me understand why we've seen so many hard lineups this season. Nobody is going to rest their players two matches in a row. I would take my chances against MOT of the two, as well.
DEE sends 40k to KIL for Garry Hay (5/10 DF)
This may be from same team that has lost 7 out of last 8 matches!
Can a Keeper win both Golden Gloves and Apprentice Gloves? Has this happened before?
STI sends 300k, 3 TP, George Gently (5/14 DF) to DEV for Jim Bowan (3/22 DF)
No risk at all Dave, unless you're on about energy levels. Then a big risk!
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 42:
Saint Johnstone - MVP #5: 25k (WWw)
Peterhead - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Livingston - MVP #8: 25k (wWw)
East Fife - MVP #3: 1 TP (Www)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 41:
Hamilton Accies - MVP #3: 1 TP (dWW)
Hearts - MVP #6: 25k (WWd)
Fraserburgh - MVP #4: 1 CP (WdW)
Clyde FC - MVP #7: 25k (WWw)
Queen of the South - MVP #4: 1 CP (dWW)
All lineups are in ahead of match 41. A full house of ticks.
However FAL are only team waiting to submit match 42 lineup, presumably waiting until first match is ran to then check EL's or future suspensions.
This seems needlessly risky.
Maybe just enter a lineup for game 42 that can be easily edited if there is an opportunity in the one hour between orders?
MOT aren't the only team hated by the refs. The DEEs are one of the "roughest" teams, while they should be a fair play award contender.
Basically, this is simply due to the extreme volatility of YCs in the game engine.
When I've joined SESL quite recently, I've soon noticed the very high volatility of several events (especially shots and YCs), compared to similar game engines.
The (very likely) reason for this is that the SOS engine uses "pure" (i.e. independent) minute-by-minute resolution - instead of pool mechanics.
Thus, there is no in game "flattening" mechanism which drives the numbers towards their expected values.
Thus, the high likeliness of unlikely events.
Not much we can do about it - but steaming.
However, suspensions - unlike e.g. shots and results - are quite managable.
You just forgot to protect Haggard for the cup - and paid a steep price.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Oct 13th:
ALO(20) BRE(40) COW(50) DEV(35) DEE(35) EF(50) EDI(35) FAL(15) FRA(35) GM(10) HAM(15) HIB(35) LIV(10) MOT(50) NAI(10) QOS(20) RR(10) ROS(25) STJ(10) SM(10) STE(25) SRA(35)
FOR sends 103k to CLY for Jesus Jones (6/14 WG)
Congrats Commish π₯³
Another birthday? This is getting monotonous- it's like he's having one every year...ππππ
Seriously, a Happy Birthday if it is the boss's birthday- π- now can we get the participation money?
(The worst has gone - from your 60th it gets easier πππ₯±π₯±ππ )
All at Stair Park wish His Commissioneriness all the best on his Birthday :-)
Bournemouth 1-3 Arsenal
Fulham 1-1 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 1-0 Everton
Liverpool 3-2 Chelsea
Man United 2-1Brentford
Newcastle 2-0 Brighton
Nottingham Forest 2-0 Crystal Palace
Southampton 1-0 Leicester City
Tottenham 2-1 West Ham
Wolves 1-4 Man City
After complaining that betting for SESL cup was not opened , I get my wish,and its opened . I immediately go and put all my money on a team with 2 major suspensions and no forwards above SL16. I unsurprisingly loose . I think its time that the FRA manager joins a meeting at Gamblers anonymous. Its fair enough to bet but I need to put a bit of thought into it first.
My German Customer has just asked me how I feel about the new England Manager! The answer is simple. He's work-in-progress until he brings home the Cup! Not a good option in my opinion but I'm willing to give him a chance til 2026. England wird gleich Weltmeister sein!
Bournemouth 1 - 2 Arsenal
Fulham 1 - 1 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 Everton
Liverpool 2 - 1 Chelsea
Man. United 1 - 1 Brentford
Newcastle 3 - 1 Brighton
Nottingham Forest 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Southampton 1 - 2 Leicester City
Tottenham 4 - 1 West Ham
Wolves 1 - 3 Man. City
TRADE WINDOW CLOSES
- 25 October 2024
Schedule for sesl cup match 43 been added.
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 40:
ANN(100) DUM(100) DEE(100) EF(100) EDI(100) ELG(100) GM(150) INV(100) KIL(100) MOT(100) QOS(100) ROS(150) SRA(100)
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through match 40:
ANN(-50) COW(-50) DUM(-50) DEE(-50) EF(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FRA(-50) GM(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) INV(-50) KIL(-50) MOT(-50) QOS(-50) ROS(-50) SRA(-50)
KIL sends 0250k to SRA for 2 CP
KIL sends 45k to SRA for Jahn Ghertry (6/10 FW)
STI sends 375k to HEA for Alan Forrest (4/19 MF)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 40:
Cove Rangers - MVP #6: 25k (WWw)
RAN sends 95k to NAI for 1 TP
CB sends 180k to FRA for 2 TP
Bournemouth 0-3 Arsenal
Fulham 1-2 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 1-2 Everton
Liverpool 2-1 Chelsea
Man. United 1-1 Brentford
Newcastle 2-0 Brighton
Nottingham Forest 1-2 Crystal Palace
Southampton 0-2 Leicester City
Tottenham 3-0 West Ham
Wolves 1-3 Man City
EPL Predictions
Bournemouth 1-3 Arsenal
Fulham 2-2 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 0-0 Everton
Liverpool 3-1 Chelsea
Man. United 1-1 Brentford
Newcastle 2-1 Brighton
Nottingham Forest 3-3 Crystal Palace
Southampton 0-2 Leicester City
Tottenham 3-0 West Ham
Wolves 1-2 Man. City
BRE sends 1 TP to DFA for 92k
Bournemouth 0 - 2 Arsenal
Fulham 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 2 - 1 Everton
Liverpool 1 - 1 Chelsea
Man. United 2 - 1 Brentford
Newcastle 2 - 1 Brighton
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Southampton 2 - 2 Leicester City
Tottenham 2 - 1 West Ham
Wolves 0 - 3 Man. City
And were back from international break this weekend
Bournemouth 0 - 2 Arsenal
Fulham 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Ipswich Town 2 - 1 Everton
Liverpool 2 - 1 Chelsea
Man. United 2 - 1 Brentford
Newcastle 2 - 1 Brighton
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Southampton 2 - 1 Leicester City
Tottenham 2 - 0 West Ham
Wolves 0 - 2 Man. City
Cheers Steve. Indeed its not the worst in the league but the bean counters still concerned. On that note we have 1 TP for sale due to our first MVP of the season, go us. 95k seems to be the going rate but happy to take more.
2CP for sale. Just $250K. Special offer. Buy two, pay for both.
Noe worries Matt, as deadline not until Wednesday 16th.
Enjoy your vacation π
Am abroad at present so timings a little out but say 24 mins to first game so add my predictions
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 39:
Stranraer - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWd)
Clydebank - MVP #7: 25k (WwD)
Am abroad at present so timings a little out but say 24 mins to first game so add my predictions
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 38:
Motherwell - MVP #5: 25k (WWd)
Airdrieonians FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Wdw)
Nairn County - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Wwd)
Livingston - MVP #7: 25k (WDw)
Brechin City - MVP #5: 25k (wwW)
Entries now open
A good feature.
ABE sends 170k to CLY for Broad Wood (1/12 MF)
KIL sends 50k to CLY for Alexis Sanchez (6/10 MA)
Poll vote on front page.
Thanks for the prompt to get betting set up again.
Cup betting FAL v ROS match 40, Oct 16th
Costs 50k to double money if pick wins tie
ANYTIME goal scorer guess for a free 50k win.
Betting closes 12:00 Wed 16th Oct
when 50k deducted from each team betting
I like the thinking of that. Kinda clever to counter the normal process.
Bit like when bidding on auction resources - will majority go all-in for 1st lot of CP,
so 2nd offering of CP may gain for a lower price? Decisions decisions.
Can't recall a time when I've won it on my own! Much less correctly predicted two draws. Lucky me
In another league long since disappeared I used a theory of playing my first match of the season as weak, this i reasoned would mean my stronger teams would appear against opposition weaker teams and my weak/strong rotation would be out of kilter with everyone elses. Never sure it made any difference whatsoever, but I liked to think it did!
Another factor in the weak/strong lineups thing is that because of the way the fixtures are generated 15 (I think) of the 16 teams in a division will play the other teams in the same sequence.
I fell foul of this many seasons ago in the days of ODFL. I was leading the division at MSA time, but after that things unravelled for me. I found out that what was happening was that most managers were putting out their best team against me, which was completely understandable. But then their following fixture happened to be against the second place team - and managers found themselves obliged to put out a much weaker lineup against them, and they overtook us to win the division.
Just realized we didnt do that for the last round.
Are we going to have betting this season?
I personally always enjoy it.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 6 Winners:
MOT(100)
Apologies for the lack of commentary on this entry, go on holiday this afternoon so time is tight.
Please do double check your score as sped through this one. :-)
The next round is the big one, the SESL last 16. I'll post as soon as possible in the notebook when the fixtures are confirmed. Wil need to do it via my ipad. :-)
Agree I sometimes think if I haven't the ELs (or maybe the SLs to compete in both games and it will likely be the opponent I feel I can take points from I will pad up the team.
I've said it before many times - I try to compete in each game (you never know if the team you are looking to rest against just might be thinking the same thing)... so any player in the teens or single figure will be cast as "a" to boost the performance. Of course it isn't right, but you know something? I play for enjoyment and to run my team the best i can and I will continue to play as long as the fun is there.
The fact I don't win much or anything is down to me wanting a team of fairly level SLs rather than say a hard core 5 or 6 suoerstars. Again maybe wrong but it is the way I prefer to play.
On another tack, has it ever been suggested teams might be allocated or plan a pre season friendly to see how new lads are bedding in? No? Thought not!! :-)
Generally, it could be said if a team is playing a club near top of table, then they may choose to focus on the other league game that session.
So a team that makes a good start to season and sit high in table (lets call them ABE) may face teams not at full strength.
The contrast to a team who is struggling in the league recently (lets call them ABE) then may face opposition who think they can be beaten (if based on league table position).
Ironically, ABE have crashed and now gone W1, D2, L14 - and the only Win was vs top of the table CLY!
STJ sends 190k to ABE for 2 TP
EDI sends 270k to ABE for 3 TP
STJ sends Bute Yard (1/8 MF) to ABE for 1 TP
Was inspired to do the below summary based on seeing some of the comments about trends in HEA's opposition and realizing that MOT hadn't really faced as many weak sides as usual this season (a lot of bad timing - a few times we caught teams resting for the cup against the other team in their Saturday schedule and then playing MOT full-on). So, I thought I would figure out the numbers behind it for this season. Not meant to ruffle any feathers, just thought everyone would be interested to see.
A disclaimer - SL% isn't the end-all be-all. Playing vs one team at 55% might be much harder than another team at 63%. But, in aggregate, it gives a good sense of how strong of lineups the opposition are putting out, relative to what they have at their disposal.
For comparison between the team facing the easiest opposition effort levels and the team facing the hardest, here are the %s for HEA and MOT, ordered ascending.
HEA | MOT |
---|---|
36 | 52 |
39 | 54 |
40 | 57 |
43 | 57 |
43 | 58 |
47 | 60 |
48 | 61 |
49 | 62 |
50 | 63 |
52 | 64 |
53 | 65 |
54 | 66 |
54 | 67 |
55 | 69 |
57 | 70 |
60 | 72 |
63 | 72 |
64 | 76 |
69 | 77 |
76 | 78 |
Team | Avg. % SL Faced | # Rollovers (Opp. <=50%) |
---|---|---|
HEA | 52.6% | 9 |
STJ | 57.7% | 5 |
CLY | 57.9% | 5 |
DUM | 58.3% | 4 |
ABE | 58.7% | 3 |
HAM | 59.6% | 3 |
INV | 59.9% | 2 |
DEE | 60.3% | 1 |
ALB | 61.0% | 1 |
ALO | 61.0% | 1 |
STE | 61.1% | 2 |
COW | 61.3% | 1 |
RAN | 61.4% | 4 |
FRA | 62.5% | 1 |
RR | 63.2% | 0 |
MOT | 65.0% | 0 |
The above shows a compilation of all Division 1 league matches from the first 20 league gameweeks. The % is a straight average between the opposition's 'Average SL% Used'. The third column shows a count of how many times the team faced an opponent that was putting out a team with 50% or less Average SL% Used (e.g. HEA have faced 9 opponents in the league who have put out Avg %s between 36% and 50%).
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 37:
Rangers - MVP #4: 1 CP (dwW)
Cove Rangers - MVP #5: 25k (WWw)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Oct 6th:
ALO(10) ARB(30) CLY(30) DUM(10) DEE(20) EF(40) EDI(30) FAL(25) FRA(25) GM(10) HEA(20) HIB(40) LIV(20) MOT(10) QP(30) RAN(5) ROS(30) SRA(20)
650k now plus about 750k plus 200k sponsorship plus some participation isn't that bad.
We've overspent this season. The bean counters are wandering around with not much to do. To rectify looking to shift my 0/16 DF for a 0/17 DF & cash. Madman i hear you say. But my 0/16 has only 6PU and i can chuck in the other 4TP to allow the 0/20 to shine. 0/20 potential to be 1/29 for majority of next season (2/26 the following season) against 1/27ish (2/23 the following season).
BRE sends 3 CP to DUU for 3 TP
STJ sends 200k to DUU for 2 TP
Being a stickler for the rules a roster size of 17 is not allowed. Rosters are to be 18-25 players and apparantly if one should maintain a roster of 17 players for 24 hours or more the comissioner is able to trigger the purchase of an apprentice at normal prices.
So probably best not to dip bellow 18 players.
......is available if you want to 'collar your players'.....
Depends if you like to play aggressively or not. If you play aggressively only occasionally, or never, you can theoretically get away with 17 players on the roster....but I think 19 just gives enough flexibility in case of bad luck with injuries and suspensions.
The coq au vin was nice by the way, but made with chicken rather than rooster....
I'd say roster size 20 +/- 1 is comfortable.
Really good turnout this week with 10 managers participating.
Andy Shaw taking the W followed by David Blair.
Andy Shaw 11.0
David Blair 8.5
Raymond Cini 8.0
Cameron Archibald 7.5
Andrew Foss Grant 6.5
Tapani Olkku 6.5
Andrew McCumiskey 6.5
Paul Cockyne 6.0
Alon Atie 6.0
Bryce Kalmbach 5.0
I'd say the best minimal roster size would be 17.
With fluid tactics, for every 3 players you need one to sub & rotate + a backup goalkeeper. In a 433 you'd only need two goalies, 2 extra DFs, 1 extra MF and 1 extra FW to keep everyone fresh.
The difficulty is that you can only play your T11 twice per 3 games and not nearly for a full 90mins, let alone using a or d for a little SL boost.
Suspensions are not the issue, but an injury that takes 2 or more games to recover, even for a T17 backup player could destroy your team.
Suspensions are mostly irrelevant.
The net effect for your rotation is, with players recovering while suspended, usually ZERO EL, at most 2 EL - it's just a minor allocation issue.
2 game suspensions mostly result in EL loss, but you shouldn't have more than 2 or 3 per season.
Injuries can be a minor problem since their 4 or 8 EL loss translates to 1 or 2 games lost. The probability is only ~10%, so there should be enough time to adjust.
Of course, it might turn into a major problem if you field players with negative ELs.
But that's a choice that can be avoided, and does very rarely make sense anyway.
So to answer a previous question:
The sweet spot for roster size is ELEVEN - plus whatever gets those 11 on the pitch as often as possible.
Yes, SRA well chuffed with Crewe Jickee (MA 5/28) going for a song in the final Auction. His experience and presence will spread fear into the oppostion and increase the pressure on GM. We will get automatic promotion based on this signing. We might not have any $$$ but we do have a team!!
STJ sends Stevie May (5/14 FW) to HIB for 140k
Two players for each of 3 clubs.
Wonder if other teams regret not adding 100k to their bids.
NAI sends 190k to STE for 2 TP
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through to match 36:
EF(200) EDI(200) HIB(200)
RAN sends 570k to CLY for 6 TP
Auction this evening means you can add a player or three to your roster with zero DPs. It's not for everyone but some might need an extra name add to the squad more than others. Fingers crossed for you.
EL problems - with only 18 players we have EL problems more than most but not complaining as I play "a" on occasions to boost some lads performances (hopefully!)
With just a third of the league season remaining, Suspensions and Injuries are increasingly starting to have an effect on many teams if the latest set of games is anything to go by.
Also many teams are still involved in the SESL Cup and some managers are clearly prioritizing team selections with Cup games in mind.
NOT a problem that EDI have sadly lol.
HIB sends 2 CP to DEV for 230k
ELG sends 325k to KIL for Mitch Pinnock (4/21 FW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 36:
Dumbarton - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Www)
Stenhousemuir - MVP #5: 25k (wDw)
Ayr United - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 35:
Clyde FC - MVP #6: 25k (dWw)
Hearts - MVP #5: 25k (wWw)
Hibernian - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
Arbroath - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWw)
Livingston - MVP #6: 25k (WWw)
Arsenal 5-0 Southampton
Aston Villa 1-1 Man United
Brentford 2-0 Wolves
Brighton 1-4 Tottenham
Chelsea 3-2 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 1-2 Liverpool
Everton 1-4 Newcastle
Leicester City 2-1 Bournemouth
Man City 3-1 Fulham
West Ham 2-0 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 3 - 0 Southampton
Aston Villa 3 - 1 Man. United
Brentford 1 - 2 Wolves
Brighton 2 - 1 Tottenham
Chelsea 2 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 0 - 3 Liverpool
Everton 0 - 2 Newcastle
Leicester City 1 - 2 Bournemouth
Man. City 3 - 0 Fulham
West Ham 2 - 2 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 1-0 Southampton
Aston Villa 2-1 Man United
Brentford 2-0 Wolves
Brighton 1-4 Tottenham
Chelsea 3-2 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 1-2 Liverpool
Everton 1-4 Newcastle
Leicester City 2-1 Bournemouth
Man City 3-1 Fulham
West Ham 2-0 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 3-1 Southampton
Aston Villa 2-1 Man United
Brentford 2-1 Wolves
Brighton 1-1 Tottenham
Chelsea 3-2 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 1-2 Liverpool
Everton 1-1 Newcastle
Leicester City 2-1 Bournemouth
Man City 3-1 Fulham
West Ham 2-0 Ipswich Town
STJ sends Ted Lasso (3/6 MF) to ELG for 50k
Disappointment with size
Variable
Very excited by the title of Raymond's post, as I will be cookonig coq au vin on Monday.
Thought I might pick up a useful hint or tip.
Disappointed.
RE: Number of players in roster
ELG been pushing the EL to the limits,
fair play to him.
ELG sends 100k to CLY for Barry Ferguson (5/10 DM)
Great result, but it IS a marathon not a sprint and the big boys won't want to tire their big players in every game.
The cream will rise to the top by the end of the 52 games they each play - it IS 52 isn't it?? ππ
1982 1-0 in Rotterdam
2024 1-0 at Villa Park
same result, no surprise..... :-)
Ant spare available? Cheers
Aston Villa beat Bayern Munich in the Champions League tonight.
Wow.
Arsenal 3 - 0 Southampton
Aston Villa 2 - 2 Man. United
Brentford 2 - 2 Wolves
Brighton 0 - 3 Tottenham
Chelsea 4 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 0 - 3 Liverpool
Everton 1 - 4 Newcastle
Leicester City 3 - 1 Bournemouth
Man. City 5 - 0 Fulham
West Ham 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 3 - 1 Southampton
Aston Villa 4 - 2 Man. United
Brentford 2 - 2 Wolves
Brighton 2 - 3 Tottenham
Chelsea 4 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 0 - 3 Liverpool
Everton 1 - 1 Newcastle
Leicester City 3 - 1 Bournemouth
Man. City 5 - 2 Fulham
West Ham 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 3 - 0 Southampton
Aston Villa 3 - 1 Man. United
Brentford 2 - 0 Wolves
Brighton 2 - 2 Tottenham
Chelsea 4 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Liverpool
Everton 1 - 2 Newcastle
Leicester City 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Man. City 3 - 0 Fulham
West Ham 1 - 1 Ipswich Tow
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Sept 29th:
ALO(35) ARB(10) CLY(10) COV(25) COW(50) DUM(10) DEE(30) EF(50) EDI(40) FAL(40) FOR(10) FRA(35) GM(10) HEA(10) HIB(50) LIV(35) MOT(50) QOS(10) RR(20) ROS(50)
Arsenal 4 - 0 Southampton
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Man. United
Brentford 1 - 1 Wolves
Brighton 2 - 2 Tottenham
Chelsea 2 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Liverpool
Everton 1 - 1 Newcastle
Leicester City 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Man. City 3 - 0 Fulham
West Ham 1 - 1 Ipswich Town
Arsenal 2 - 0 Southampton
Aston Villa 3 - 1 Man. United
Brentford 1 - 0 Wolves
Brighton 2 - 2 Tottenham
Chelsea 4 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 1 - 3 Liverpool
Everton 0 - 2 Newcastle
Leicester City 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Man. City 4 - 1 Fulham
West Ham 3 - 1 Ipswich Town
Last gameweek before the international break
Arsenal 3 - 0 Southampton
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Man. United
Brentford 2 - 1 Wolves
Brighton 1 - 2 Tottenham
Chelsea 2 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 0 - 2 Liverpool
Everton 1 - 2 Newcastle
Leicester City 1 - 2 Bournemouth
Man. City 2 - 0 Fulham
West Ham 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
Small entry this week
John Mc Carthy 7.5
Andrew Foss Grant 6.0
Alon Atie 5.0
RR sends 450k to RAN for Ridvan Yilmaz (3/23 DF)
QP sends 225k to RAN for James Tavernier (4/17 DF)
You only need 11 players without suspensions or injuries. Nothing to stop you listing injured or suspended players as substitutes though very risky.
20 teams in Sesl have less than 20 players currently. That seems quite a risk? Look at RR - 4 players suspended, so had to trade in a player just to be able to list 16 players for next match.
I've read ALO like low roster numbers as easier to field 50% team SL in each match. What do others think - think over 20 is sweet spot. I may be wrong
Two good deals between ROS and RAN.
ROS was short on player numbers, so makes sense.
Hope new arrivals help get ROS out of relegation zone.
Ross County are proud to announce the signing of experienced WG Todd Cantwell from Rangers ,coach rob stated we needed more firepower and thrust up front and this man ticked all the boxes,we will fit straight into the side and hopefully provide the service upfront to our forwards.
ARB sends Marli Bones (4/13 MF) to RR for 100k
CP prices may never come back inline. 100k+ is the new norm.
Auction TP seems to go for over 100k a pop lately.
Now over 90k+ for trading TP. Today I had a handful of trade offer pending - yet some managers still offer less than I noted on trade list π€ Up to each manager ofcourse, by why miss out on getting what resources you need for just 5 or 10k π€·
RAN sends 375k to HEA for 4 TP
Have we almost seen the end of 1k wins at auction?
There been just one this season.
Plus a 2k win, when I got lucky as other bids went invalid as duplicate player name.
Auction prices seem on the rise.
ROS sends 351k to RAN for Todd Cantwell (4/21 WG)
KIL sends 736k to GM for 8 TP
Nice deal. Nice price.
May help EL management ofcourse.
π
> ROS sends 551k to RAN for Stephen Kelly (2/21 MF).
Ross County are proud to announce the signing of experienced midfielder Stephen Kelly from Rangers,coach Rob stated we have always admired him and his skillset and he will fit in nicely and debut in our next game and hopefully help us push on in our fight to remain in division 2.
Funny breed, these lads.
I usually play my 2nd string keeper on "a" to try to boost his performance, and on quite a few occasions I have stuck a keeper in as a sweeper to rest my main sweeper. I would be very happy to vote for keepers to lose less ELs per game (as in real life they don't usually break sweat in the 90 minutes). I am all for it - of course if he plays outfield he loses the ELs his position demands.
Plus when can we expect overtime in SESL - games in the EPL last around 105 minutes (5 extra first half and 10 the 2nd).
And then we can pursue more than 3 substitutes...
The list is endless!! :-)
Please could I have a physio boost for Jacob Comerford. I requested this on Sept 24th and again on 25th but it seems to have been missed.
ROS sends 551k to RAN for Stephen Kelly (2/21 MF)
SRA sends 180k, Nerl Herdwicke (1/14 DF) to KIL for Liam Polworth (1/16 MF)
COW sends 2 TP to EDI for 180k
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 34:
Cowdenbeath - MVP #3: 1 TP (WWW)
Clydebank - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Annan Athletic - MVP #6: 25k (wWD)
Kilmarnock - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 33:
Motherwell - MVP #4: 1 CP (wdw)
Stranraer - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Cove Rangers - MVP #4: 1 CP (WWD)
Brechin City - MVP #4: 1 CP (wDw)
Montrose - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
Friday reminder, only 5 entries so far
Friday reminder, only 5 entries so far
Yes, but our GK will be playing aggressive, while yours will be passive. ;-)
When I saw the final tables I thought we'd be playing Motherwell - and that's a no-brainer 12th vs 35th in T11. Concentrate on the league.
But the bracket has gone up and I see we play Cove Rangers who are only 5 places above us and 0 CP so we can get a bit closer. Damnit!
If you have watched Arsenal recently their keeper is always getting cramp and rolling around on the floor. this can take a lot out of a player,
(Yes I have always wondered the same thing for this game.)
Not wishing to put a spanner in the works but I was thinking....
The GK position is the one position that the player will use less energy than any other player. Why does the GK expend the same EL as a winger, for example?
Just a thought.
GK's playing aggressive were deemed too powerful but something was needed to stop them all playing passive with no penalty.
This was changed in October 2007, around the same time the 50% blowout rule was introduced.
In answer to Cameron.
A goalkeepers main function is to stop shots..
The higher the SL the better they are at this.
(the actual formula is the difference between the GK SL and shooter SL *2 is added (or subtracted if its less) to 60% to get the percentage chance that the shot is saved. This percentage is never bellow 10% or above 90% though.)
The GK does not affect GP at all under normal circumstances.-playing normal.
However should he playAggresive or passive his shot stopping ability remains the same.
unlike any other player whose effective SL changes.
Instesad an agressive or passive goalie has 25% of his SL added to GP for A or substracted for P.
So in your example the agressive 20SL goalie added 5 to GP but the 32SL goalie added 0 as he was playing Normal.
However had the 32 SL GK played aggressively he would have added 8.
I hope this explains it.
I dont understand. GK went from SL20 aggressive, to Skill level 32 normal.
The better GK should help prevent for Goal Protection better when a SL 20 (+5 aggressive) is compared to SL 32?
Is it chance of saving a goal increases for SL32, but doesn't protect goal as well?
EDI sends 90k to ROS for 1 TP
Adding to Steve's post, since that update was made it also goes the other way when playing a GK passive, the saving stays the same.
So before this change was made we would always play the backup GKs aggressive to increase the saving % and then also the starters on big games.
Now after the change it allows us to play the starters more games by playing them passive...
Thanks Steve and Eduard for that answer.
First a bit of history.
In the old days a GKs SL and stopping power was affected by aggression. So an SL 20 GK playing a saved shots as an SL 25. For an SL 32 GK this became SL 40. A change was wanted.
I suggested that GK aggression could affect GP and keep the save chance the same.
COV's SL 20 GK playing a adds 5 GP. The substitute played n so the 5 GP was removed.
It also explains why ALO have negative GP - GK plays passive -> losing GP. All defenders marking means 0 base GP.
Trivial answer: Barrett SL 20 played a - and his 5 SL GP boost got lost after substituting him for Stitchell 20 n
I'd be interested too in answer.
Maybe GP lower because my OFF was poor?
MIN TEAM MT GP DEF OFF ------------------------------- 1 COV N 44.00 100.29 195.89 1 LIV N 31.80 90.71 127.31 76 COV N 39.00 100.29 195.89
In our match against Livingstone, we substituted our GK SL20 with an SL32, yet our GP went down. Why?
Jacob Comerford, please
The following teams receive Physio Boost through Tommy Gemmell:
FAL(-80)
The following teams receive Adjustment through 0/5 DF Marcus North duplicate:
SM(200)
DEV sends 400k to LIV for Todd Cantwell (4/23 FW)
FOR sends 100k to MOT for John Robertson (6/14 FW)
Bournemouth 1 - 0 Southampton
Arsenal 4 - 0 Leicester City
Brentford 1 - 1 West Ham
Chelsea 4 - 1 Brighton
Everton 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Ipswich Town 0 - 3 Aston Villa
Man. United 2 - 0 Tottenham
Newcastle 0 - 2 Man. City
Nott Forest 1 - 0 Fulham
Wolves 0 - 4 Liverpool
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 32:
Rangers - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
Clyde FC - MVP #5: 25k (DwW)
No City/Arsenal, but at least we get Tottenham/Manchester Utd, aka the battle for the europa conference league.
Bournemouth 1 - 0 Southampton
Arsenal 4 - 0 Leicester City
Brentford 2 - 1 West Ham
Chelsea 1 - 1 Brighton
Everton 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Ipswich Town 0 - 3 Aston Villa
Man. United 2 - 3 Tottenham
Newcastle 2 - 2 Man. City
Nottingham Forest 1 - 0 Fulham
Wolves 0 - 2 Liverpool
Unfortunately no City /Arsenal match this week.
So maybe not as much drama.
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Southampton
Arsenal 3 - 0 Leicester City
Brentford 2 - 1 West Ham
Chelsea 2 - 1 Brighton
Everton 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Man. United 2 - 1 Tottenham
Newcastle 1 - 2 Man. City
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Fulham
Wolves 0 - 2 Liverpool
I have 4 TP available.
I do not understand a manager not paying 2 or 3k more per TP if that is what they need.
The extra 10 or 12k can be recouped with a blog message.
SImilar to this one.
Although if you were to go on and add another sentence or two, that may earn more the the excess you may feel you paid.
In summary - stump up the money to get what you need :-)
End.
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TP seems to be sitting at a value over 90k now.
May be 92k by weekend, and 95k as season progresses and managers get desperate.
EDI are on the hunt for 6x TPs and willing to pay cash....
come on folks...join in the hunt.
Better still - all 4 teams now meet another on 4 points from group.
High octane play-off
I'll be watching keenly (smugly) from the sidelines.
Was looking back through, and it might not have been my highest score ever, but I'm pretty happy with being exactly one goal off on 5 of the 10 matches (and getting one more correct on top of that). Talk about some near misses...
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Wolves (3-1)
Brighton 2 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Man. United
Fulham 1 - 3 Newcastle
Leicester City 1 - 2 Everton (1-1)
Liverpool 3 - 1 Bournemouth (3-0)
Man. City 0 - 0 Arsenal
Southampton 1 - 1 Ipswich Town (1-1)
Tottenham 2 - 1 Brentford (3-1)
West Ham 1 - 3 Chelsea (0-3)
Alon, it's about the only time I'm gonna top a table apart from the DP one πππ
Gemmell -18.
Needs more TLC.
Cheers Andy.
EL gambler extraordinaire.
David Blair back on top. Me at the bottom.
David Blair 13
Andrew Foss Grant 11.5
Andy Shaw 9
Andrew Mc Cumiskey 7
Alon Atie 5.5
QP sends 1 TP to EDI for 92k
Handful of teams risking EL, or just a random increase of injuries?
Jacob Comerford, please
The following teams receive Physio Boost through :
FAL(-80) PT(-80)
The following teams receive cost to change Captain through :
COW(-100)
EDI sends 180k to COW for 2 TP
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Sept 22nd:
ALO(25) ANN(10) ARB(10) BRE(25) CLY(10) COV(10) COW(5) DEE(40) EF(50) EDI(50) FAL(40) FRA(20) HIB(40) MOT(45) PT(5) RAN(10) ROS(25) SM(25) SRA(25)
The order shouldn't matter - I've never had an issue with it myself. I think the software checks for illegal formations after subs are all made.
If I want to sub a defender for a GK to play in goal. And move the GK starting the game to SW. What is the order required to prevent ending up with a defender between the sticks and my 2 GKs wandering around the pitch aimlessly?
GK1 c to SW
DF1 substitute for GK2
Only been playing nearly 40 seasons and this is the first time I fancy this change...
Notable that this year not a single club has gone 4-0-0 through the first four matches of the groups this year.
Group A:
STE and DUM have completely qualified, where RAN have all but qualified (to get knocked out, ALO would have to beat QP by a single goal and RAN would need to lose to EDI by either 6 or 7 goals to fall below QP. Seems nearly impossible)
QP and ALO will fight for the final spot in the group, with QP making it through with a win or draw and ALO making it through with a win.
EDI will finish last in the group and are knocked out
Group B:
HEA and NAI have qualified. Two of EF, ALB, and GM will join them in the knockouts, but since none play each other it will all be about who can secure a win. EF and ALB can both guarantee a spot with a win in the 5th match, whereas GM will need a win and hope that either of the two teams above them drop points. INV are winless and knocked out
Group C:
STJ are through on 8 points. All of ARB, BRE, and HAM just need one point to ensure they stay above 5th placed SRA. SRA would also need to overcome a very large goal difference to pass up any of those three that happen to lose. DEE are knocked out on 0 points so far. Even though the top 4 in this group are all favorites to progress to the next round, the ordering/seeding could be in almost any order.
Group D:
COW have qualified and will be either first or second in the group. ELG have also qualified due to the last fixture ensuring that only one of CEL or MON can pass them up. HIB will make it through with a point or better due to leading CEL/MON on goal difference. The winner of CEL vs MON will progress and the loser is likely knocked out. A draw puts CEL through and will have MON hoping that HIB lose their final match. BER are eliminated at the bottom of the group.
Group E:
MOT and ANN have qualified for the next round. ROS will qualify with a draw or better, or if KIL and PET draw in their final match. EST are through to the next round with a win, but could even progress with a loss by 2 or less should KIL and PET draw. The winner of KIL vs PET will have a chance at progressing, but will need help with the result of ROS vs EST.
Group F:
CLY and FRA will be first and second in the group, with CLY holding the goal difference advantage going into their tie. Below them, all four of DUU, FOR, STI, and QOS are level on 4 points and facing each other last, making the math easy: win and you will qualify. A draw will work for DUU to qualify, and also likely FOR (however, since they are level on points and GD with STI, FOR could be eliminated with a draw in the unlikely scenario where STI also draw and have a score draw that is much higher than FOR to pass them up on GF).
Group G:
DFA have qualified and will be either first or second in the group. Every other side have a route to qualify or be eliminated. DEV just need a point to qualify. SM, PT, and AI all will make it through with a win (AI have a counterintuitive path, since they currently sit 5th. Since they have a better GD than the three sides above them, they will pass either DEV or PT with a win, no matter the result of that match). CB can even qualify with a win, but that would count on PT and AI both losing OR one of them losing while CB beat SM by 2 or more.
Group H:
COV and LIV have both qualified for the next round. RR vs AYR will send the winner through, though RR will also make it through with a draw. Both could make it through should FAL drop points in their final match. FAL just need to beat ABE to qualify. They have a small route through with a draw, but that would likely require AYR losing by 5.
EDI sends 90k to PET for 1 TP
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 31:
Saint Johnstone - MVP #4: 1 CP (WWd)
Elgin City - MVP #6: 25k (wWD)
Deveronvale - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Livingston - MVP #5: 25k (Www)
Think previous request has been lost in the blog.
Can Mr. Langer be made our new captain. Ta.
East Fife sit atop of the league and are starting to put a little day light, 4 points, between themselves and the teams below.
Still plenty time but that a healthy lead with a good set of figures. St. Mirren and this week's winners Elgin pose a threat as they have 2 blank weeks, though Elgin will have to show greater consistency.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 5 Winners:
ELG(100)
With it being a Prediction league this coming weekend (Notebook entries are now open!) it's time to get week 5 results. Apologies for the delay.
But what a round it was, a very decent result for 1 team who managed to predict ALL the correct results.
Average score was 4.84 so quite high. This was offset by a couple of tricky ties and a shock in a single game, only 2, including the winner, managed to get right. The rest picked a home win. It was also the biggest pick for banker choice. A real coupon buster. Even Hibs, the away team, had the home team to win, and picked it as a banker!!
So onto the winner, well done Elgin City, a fine set of picks. A nice 100k all to yourself.
Great reading about the older players I remember - I watched all my main football in the 60s and 70s when I was young, and it's true that black players had a torrid time being accepted by a section of our humanity.
But I've just watched Match of the Day last night (not Saturday night's version as some of us need our bed..π) and some clubs couldn't exist without them - thinking Chelsea for one.
We all know its ability that matters, not skin colour - and we may be near total acceptance- won't get to 100% but over time we have been getting towards it I feel.
I remember him. Played for Feyenoord in 1977, scored 3 in 23 games.
I think a lot of fans thought we signed George Best at first.
I didn't know the story around his person though. Great info.
On a very personal note...
As a life long WHU fan and supporter(since the early 60's), Bermudian Clyde Best was one of the very first 'Black' players in the 'old' first division (pre-premier league).
At a time when racism was rampant, he stood out in so many ways. He credited Bobby Moore(Sir), Harry Redknapp and the hero of all WHU fans > Billy Bonds as helping Clyde to deal with racism.
Clyde Best was later awarded a much deserved OBE/MBE and still lives in Bermuda at the age of 73.
Clyde Best is now and always will be one of my greatest sporting icons.
I welcome my hero to EDI.
Nae panic chap - HIB have cash reserves bigger than more than half of the whole league.
Don't know if it is a record, but it's the halfway point and most teams take stock of where they are (and in my case, where they should have been, but aren't..). So guessing they are looking to get some new blood to kickstart the 2nd half of their season.
Probably wrong of course, but I am contributing as we are short of the readies..!! :-)
AUCTION #8
Deadline: Sun, Sep 22: 1930
38 teams participating
Is that a record high?
MOT sends 91k to HIB for 1 TP
HIB sends Lenny Wilson (5/13 GK) to DEV for 100k
League points?
"get 7 LPs..."
What is (was) an LP? I assume not a bit of vinyl?
I once read it stood for Most Valliant Performance but I guess that's just making something fit the acronym.
It's a historical relic: it is indeed Most Valuable Player.
Back when (the dinosaurs still roamed the earth) the rule was:
Get 7 LPs in a 3 match session => get 1 extra SL on a player of choice, i.e. the MVP
This was of course a really bad idea - and was adjusted quite soon, but somehow the term MVP survived.
Always happy to get an MVP award, but what does MVP stand for? To me it means Most Valuable Player, not Got Seven Points From Three Games. Though admittedly GSPFTG would be an awkward abbreviation.
Just noticed ANN have jumped into the D2 line & GM have joined the last row ... on the GM landing page they are not listed in any Division so I think something has gone wrong somewhere ... ???
RR sends 927k, 10 TP, Maduka Okoye (6/5 GK) to EST for Andy Goram (0/17 GK)
Gemmell -30.
Needs some TLC.
SW Morris please. Magic sponge and/or wet blue paper towels.
MOT sends 1 CP to DUM for 110k
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 30:
Stenhousemuir - MVP #4: 1 CP (Www)
Hearts - MVP #4: 1 CP (WWd)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WDw)
Cowdenbeath - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Annan Athletic - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
Motherwell - MVP #3: 1 TP (DWw)
Cove Rangers - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWW)
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through to match 37:
EDI(100) HIB(100) KIL(100)
Quick turnaround of next 3 matches.
quite like that for a change.
EST sends 270k to HAM for 3 TP
The Final Divisional front page review payements would also be welcome with a view to the upcoming auctions.
Sorry to be a pain and impatient....'Smiley'
I missed the deadline.
My bad.
Anyone want a few age 5's?
PET sends 350k to HIB for 3 CP
The following teams receive retire for cash through :
ALB(96) ANN(225) CEL(165) COV(297) COW(126) DEE(374) DFA(250) EDI(72) ELG(124) FAL(434) FRA(467) HAM(288) HIB(108) INV(24) MOT(396) PET(373) RR(319) ROS(441)
The following teams receive retire for apprentices through amendments from 11th August:
ABE(-250) BRE(-144)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Sept 15th:
ALB(15) ALO(50) ANN(30) ARB(10) COV(10) COW(50) DUM(30) DEE(50) EF(50) EDI(50) FAL(15) GM(10) HEA(35) HIB(50) LIV(10) MOT(15) ROS(20) STJ(35) SM(20) SRA(10)
Any chance of getting the cash prior to the auction.
In desperate need!
RAN sends 110k to MOT for 1 CP
BRE sends 1 CP to RAN for Jon McLaughlin (6/14 GK)
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Wolves
Brighton 2 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Man. United
Fulham 1 - 3 Newcastle
Leicester City 1 - 2 Everton
Liverpool 3 - 1 Bournemouth
Man. City 0 - 0 Arsenal
Southampton 1 - 1 Ipswich Town
Tottenham 2 - 1 Brentford
West Ham 1 - 3 Chelsea
RAN sends 812k, 7 TP to BRE for Craig Gordon (0/14 GK)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 29:
Arbroath - MVP #3: 1 TP (wDW)
Brechin City - MVP #3: 1 TP (WdW)
Fraserburgh - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 28:
Celtic - MVP #3: 1 TP (dWw)
Montrose - MVP #3: 1 TP (dwW)
Aston Villa 2-1 Wolves
Brighton 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 1-1 Man United
Fulham 1-1 Newcastle
Leicester City 2-0 Everton
Liverpool 3-0 Bournemouth
Man City 1-1 Arsenal
Southampton 2-0 Ipswich Town
Tottenham 2-1 Brentford
West Ham 1-1 Chelsea
Aston Villa 2-1 Wolves
Brighton 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 1-1 Man United
Fulham 1-1 Newcastle
Leicester City 2-0 Everton
Liverpool 3-0 Bournemouth
Man City 1-1 Arsenal
Southampton 2-0 Ipswich Town
Tottenham 2 - 0 Brentford
West Ham 1 - 2 Chelsea
Aston Villa 3 - 1 Wolves
Brighton 2 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 0 - 2 Man. United
Fulham 1 - 1 Newcastle
Leicester City 2 - 1 Everton
Liverpool 2 - 0 Bournemouth
Man. City 2 - 0 Arsenal
Southampton 1 - 1 Ipswich Town
Tottenham 2 - 0 Brentford
West Ham 1 - 2 Chelsea
His characteristics are Homefield: HOMER and Discipline: LOOSE
Should reduce the number of cards and early baths........
Aston Villa 3 - 0 Wolves
Brighton 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Man. United
Fulham 1 - 2 Newcastle
Leicester City 2 - 0 Everton
Liverpool 2 - 0 Bournemouth
Man. City 2 - 1 Arsenal
Southampton 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
Tottenham 2 - 0 Brentford
West Ham 1 - 2 Chelsea
A homer ref becomes a fair ref.
A strict or loose ref stays the same.
How does a bias ref perform at a neutral venue. Does a Homer/!Loose take is easy on both teams. I can't remember!
I agree with Fran it would be great if we could get a small cash prize awarded to the winner of the prediction league every week.
Nontheless here are this weeks games.
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Wolves
Brighton 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Man. United
Fulham 1 - 2 Newcastle
Leicester City 2 - 1 Everton
Liverpool 2 - 0 Bournemouth
Man. City 2 - 1 Arsenal
Southampton 2 - 1 Ipswich Town
Tottenham 2 - 0 Brentford
West Ham 1 - 2 Chelsea
How does a bias ref perform at a neutral venue. Does a Homer/!Loose take is easy on both teams. I can't remember!
COW sends 220k to ALO for 2 CP
Problem is no cash prizes to encourage participation for English football.
I will try predict next time for fun though.
Only 3 participants this week
Andrew Foss Grant 10 (inc 1 pt for UTD game)
Alon Atie 9
David Blair 5.5
......its been 40 seasons since the Blues were favourites (or is it favorites?) to get dumped out of the group phase......
It has been a few seasons since I did similar calculations, Paul, and I don't remember them ever coming out anywhere as close to even as these. It looks like the draw this year really spread out the SL numbers while avoiding any groups that are way below the others in total SL. Group C still looks like a strong group compared to others, so BRE, DEE, HAM, and SRA may feel a bit hard done, but I really think this draw is the most even I've seen.
With apologies for the various errors last time. I think these show the correct T11 and T17 ratings, post MSA
Group A | T11 | T17 | Group B | T11 | T17 | |
Rangers | 26.6 | 22.2 | Hearts | 26.9 | 22.9 | |
Stenhousemuir | 26.5 | 21.7 | Greenock Morton | 26.0 | 21.6 | |
Queens Park | 24.6 | 19.4 | Albion Rovers | 25.1 | 21.3 | |
Dumbarton | 24.5 | 20.0 | East Fife | 24.7 | 21.5 | |
Alloa Athletic | 22.7 | 18.6 | Nairn County | 24.3 | 20.6 | |
Edinburgh City | 22.5 | 18.8 | Inverness | 22.9 | 18.3 | |
Total | 147.4 | 120.7 | Total | 149.9 | 126.2 | |
Group C | T11 | T17 | Group D | T11 | T17 | |
Saint Johnstone | 27.7 | 23.1 | Cowdenbeath | 26.1 | 21.8 | |
Arbroath | 27.6 | 23.4 | Hibernian | 25.3 | 22.2 | |
Brechin City | 26.3 | 22.2 | Elgin City | 24.3 | 21.5 | |
Dundee FC | 25.6 | 21.9 | Celtic | 24.2 | 20.5 | |
Hamilton Accies | 24.5 | 22.0 | Berwick | 22.8 | 20.1 | |
Stranraer | 24.5 | 20.9 | Montrose | 22.5 | 18.1 | |
Total | 156.2 | 133.5 | Total | 145.2 | 124.2 | |
Group E | T11 | T17 | Group F | T11 | T17 | |
Annan Athletic | 25.8 | 20.9 | Clyde FC | 26.4 | 22.3 | |
Motherwell | 25.5 | 21.5 | Fraserburgh | 26.0 | 22.0 | |
Kilmarnock | 24.4 | 19.8 | Queen of the South | 24.0 | 19.6 | |
East Stirlingshire | 23.9 | 19.0 | Stirling | 23.6 | 19.6 | |
Peterhead | 23.5 | 19.1 | Dundee United | 23.5 | 19.2 | |
Ross County | 23.2 | 20.0 | Forfar Athletic | 22.9 | 19.5 | |
Total | 146.3 | 120.3 | Total | 146.4 | 122.2 | |
Group G | T11 | T17 | Group H | T11 | T17 | |
Clydebank | 25.9 | 23.1 | Livingston | 28.1 | 23.8 | |
Dunfermline Athletic | 25.2 | 20.9 | Raith Rovers | 26.0 | 20.3 | |
Airdrieonians FC | 24.8 | 20.0 | Cove Rangers | 24.3 | 20.9 | |
Partick Thistle | 23.8 | 18.9 | Aberdeen | 23.5 | 20.6 | |
Deveronvale | 23.6 | 20.3 | Ayr United | 23.5 | 19.6 | |
Saint Mirren | 22.1 | 18.2 | Falkirk | 22.8 | 19.9 | |
Total | 145.4 | 121.4 | Total | 148.2 | 125.1 |
Can Mr. Langer be our new captain please.
Many thanks Mr Commish
EST sends 270k to BRE for 3 TP
Request to Down grade Multi Position players....
DM Alex NZiland to DF
and
MA Ryan Schiavone to MF
Thanks.
Thanks Dave.
Free of charge, as far as I know.
Just blog what player and how you want his position changed.
DEV sends Phil Slater (0/17 GK) to HIB for 1000k, 10 TP
Are we still able to down grade a MP player ?
and if so, at what cost ?
The dreaded mid season skill level ageing now been done.
Ageing is correct. Aging rhymes with agog.
If anyone is looking for a few more CP for the second half of the season, feel free to send over an offer.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 27:
Albion Rovers - MVP #4: 1 CP (WDw)
Dundee FC - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Hearts - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Motherwell - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Rangers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wDW)
Stenhousemuir - MVP #3: 1 TP (wdW)
Livingston - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwD)
Annan Athletic - MVP #4: 1 CP (dWw)
Queen of the South - MVP #3: 1 TP (dWW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 26:
Arbroath - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Clydebank - MVP #5: 25k (WdW)
Elgin City - MVP #5: 25k (wWw)
Cove Rangers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
I am currently visiting my son in Canada, returning to the UK on Tuesday/Wednesday. At what point in my journey should I adjust my spelling?
Too late on the first match of the day, but I'll predict the rest
Bournemouth 1 - 3 Chelsea
Aston Villa 3 - 0 Everton
Brighton 1 - 0 Ipswich Town
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Leicester City
Fulham 1 - 1 West Ham
Liverpool 3 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Man. City 2 - 1 Brentford
Southampton - Man. United (match already underway)
Tottenham 2 - 2 Arsenal
Wolves 0 - 2 Newcastle
EXTENDED deadline to Wed 18th Sept, 3pm.
Due to mid season aging on 15th Sept, I have extended the deadline to allow managers to list correct SL being retired for cash (no need to buy an apprentice this time)
Managers will retire players themselves before Sesl cup match kick offs Wed 18th Sept.
Managers will post on Notebook what the aged SL and value is of players being retired,
plus a total amount due.
Commish will add cash in full of the players being retired after match 28.
NEW prices from season 57:-
any player age 4+ with SL12 or less is eligable to be cashed in.
Age 4 players at 15k per SL
Age 5 players at 12k per SL
Age 6 players at 10k per SL
Age 7+ players at 8k per SL
The following teams receive Cup Draw Participation through :
ANN(100) EDI(50) HIB(50)
Aging is US/Canada.....the rest of the known universe Ageing....
Do we need a poll vote!
Yep - that's my take too, Dave. See how your players fare in the SL takeaway (aka MSA) and cash in before you take the park on Wednesday.
I'll do it Sunday evening while I still remember. π°
Notebook link suggests cashing in our older players is extended until Wednesday to allow valuation after mid season aging.
Might be worth doing stats again after mid season aging tomorrow as that will be the SL used for 5 cup group games.
Could you present it in Top 11 order maybe?
Great work guys though.
Apparently something got lost on the way between CTRL-C to CTRL-V.
So just to show there IS a group of death, group C corrected ...
Team | T11 | T17 | T11-OTF | T17-OTF |
Saint Johnstone | 30,8 | 26,3 | 31,9 | 27,4 |
Arbroath | 30,6 | 26,3 | 31,4 | 27,1 |
Dundee FC | 28,5 | 24,7 | 29,6 | 25,8 |
Brechin City | 29,2 | 24,6 | 30,0 | 25,4 |
Hamilton Accies | 27,4 | 24,6 | 27,9 | 25,1 |
Stranraer | 26,6 | 22,9 | 27,4 | 23,7 |
173,1 | 149,4 |
DEE and HAM were corrected - so the numbers are significantly higher.
No surprise, given that 5 of the top 12 T17 squads are present.
As a partial answer to my previous question, T11/OTF and T17/OTF are also included - counting OTF as (low) 1.5 SL
I have done a summary of the SESL Cup Groups showing T11 and T17 ratings
Are you in the group of death?
Probably not, as there doesn't seem to be one. Groups B and C have the highest average ratings - but not by much. There could be a few surprising casualties at the group stages...
Group A | T11 | T17 | Group B | T11 | T17 | |
Stenhousemuir | 30.4 | 25.2 | Nairn County | 27.3 | 23.4 | |
Alloa Athletic | 25.4 | 20.9 | Greenock Morton | 28.9 | 24.2 | |
Rangers | 29.8 | 25.4 | Hearts | 30.0 | 25.7 | |
Edinburgh City | 23.5 | 20.4 | East Fife | 27.6 | 24.4 | |
Queens Park | 27.0 | 21.9 | Albion Rovers | 28.4 | 24.2 | |
Dumbarton | 27.3 | 22.6 | Inverness | 26.3 | 21.2 | |
Total | 163.4 | 136.4 | Total | 168.5 | 143.1 | |
Group C | T11 | T17 | Group D | T11 | T17 | |
Hamilton Accies | 27.4 | 21.6 | Elgin City | 27.0 | 23.4 | |
Stranraer | 26.6 | 22.9 | Berwick | 24.8 | 22.8 | |
Dundee FC | 25.6 | 21.2 | Hibernian | 27.5 | 24.5 | |
Arbroath | 30.6 | 26.3 | Montrose | 24.9 | 20.4 | |
Saint Johnstone | 30.8 | 26.3 | Cowdenbeath | 29.0 | 25.1 | |
Brechin City | 29.2 | 24.6 | Celtic | 27.4 | 23.6 | |
Total | 170.2 | 142.9 | Total | 160.6 | 139.8 | |
Group E | T11 | T17 | Group F | T11 | T17 | |
Annan Athletic | 29.0 | 23.9 | Fraserburgh | 29.0 | 24.4 | |
Motherwell | 27.9 | 24.4 | Clyde FC | 29.0 | 25.4 | |
Peterhead | 25.4 | 21.6 | Stirling | 26.4 | 22.5 | |
East Stirlingshire | 26.5 | 21.6 | Queen of the South | 25.6 | 21.9 | |
Ross County | 25.5 | 22.6 | Forfar Athletic | 25.2 | 21.6 | |
Kilmarnock | 26.5 | 21.5 | Dundee United | 25.6 | 21.2 | |
Total | 160.8 | 135.6 | Total | 160.8 | 137.0 | |
Group G | T11 | T17 | Group H | T11 | T17 | |
Deveronvale | 25.8 | 21.9 | Aberdeen | 26.8 | 23.5 | |
Partick Thistle | 26.4 | 21.8 | Ayr United | 25.7 | 21.6 | |
Clydebank | 28.8 | 26.0 | Raith Rovers | 28.8 | 23.5 | |
Dunfermline Athletic | 28.2 | 23.7 | Livingston | 30.8 | 26.5 | |
Airdrieonians FC | 27.1 | 22.8 | Cove Rangers | 26.5 | 23.2 | |
Saint Mirren | 24.1 | 19.9 | Falkirk | 25.6 | 22.9 | |
Total | 160.4 | 136.1 | Total | 164.2 | 141.2 |
As a side question, motivated by Paul's Cup analysis:
Why is OTF always ignored in the T11/T17 calculations?
The only "reason" I can see is that Alloa wants better chances at "over-achiever" awards.
Interesting numbers, however Group C is not quite correct.
Dundee FC's numbers are slightly higher than Dunde Utd's (used here) - which makes Group C much more difficult than any other, at least mathematically.
I have done a summary of the SESL Cup Groups showing T11 and T17 ratings
Are you in the group of death?
Probably not, as there doesn't seem to be one. Groups B and C have the highest average ratings - but not by much. There could be a few surprising casualties at the group stages...
Group A | T11 | T17 | Group B | T11 | T17 | |
Stenhousemuir | 30.4 | 25.2 | Nairn County | 27.3 | 23.4 | |
Alloa Athletic | 25.4 | 20.9 | Greenock Morton | 28.9 | 24.2 | |
Rangers | 29.8 | 25.4 | Hearts | 30.0 | 25.7 | |
Edinburgh City | 23.5 | 20.4 | East Fife | 27.6 | 24.4 | |
Queens Park | 27.0 | 21.9 | Albion Rovers | 28.4 | 24.2 | |
Dumbarton | 27.3 | 22.6 | Inverness | 26.3 | 21.2 | |
Total | 163.4 | 136.4 | Total | 168.5 | 143.1 | |
Group C | T11 | T17 | Group D | T11 | T17 | |
Hamilton Accies | 27.4 | 21.6 | Elgin City | 27.0 | 23.4 | |
Stranraer | 26.6 | 22.9 | Berwick | 24.8 | 22.8 | |
Dundee FC | 25.6 | 21.2 | Hibernian | 27.5 | 24.5 | |
Arbroath | 30.6 | 26.3 | Montrose | 24.9 | 20.4 | |
Saint Johnstone | 30.8 | 26.3 | Cowdenbeath | 29.0 | 25.1 | |
Brechin City | 29.2 | 24.6 | Celtic | 27.4 | 23.6 | |
Total | 170.2 | 142.9 | Total | 160.6 | 139.8 | |
Group E | T11 | T17 | Group F | T11 | T17 | |
Annan Athletic | 29.0 | 23.9 | Fraserburgh | 29.0 | 24.4 | |
Motherwell | 27.9 | 24.4 | Clyde FC | 29.0 | 25.4 | |
Peterhead | 25.4 | 21.6 | Stirling | 26.4 | 22.5 | |
East Stirlingshire | 26.5 | 21.6 | Queen of the South | 25.6 | 21.9 | |
Ross County | 25.5 | 22.6 | Forfar Athletic | 25.2 | 21.6 | |
Kilmarnock | 26.5 | 21.5 | Dundee United | 25.6 | 21.2 | |
Total | 160.8 | 135.6 | Total | 160.8 | 137.0 | |
Group G | T11 | T17 | Group H | T11 | T17 | |
Deveronvale | 25.8 | 21.9 | Aberdeen | 26.8 | 23.5 | |
Partick Thistle | 26.4 | 21.8 | Ayr United | 25.7 | 21.6 | |
Clydebank | 28.8 | 26.0 | Raith Rovers | 28.8 | 23.5 | |
Dunfermline Athletic | 28.2 | 23.7 | Livingston | 30.8 | 26.5 | |
Airdrieonians FC | 27.1 | 22.8 | Cove Rangers | 26.5 | 23.2 | |
Saint Mirren | 24.1 | 19.9 | Falkirk | 25.6 | 22.9 | |
Total | 160.4 | 136.1 | Total | 164.2 | 141.2 |
Well done Dan.
Sorry I missed the draw live this time.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 4 Winners:
SM(100)
Week(s) behind here so thanks for the patience.
I think the result of this one is well known, there was plenty blogging done at the time. It even sparked a poll. For those of you who didn't spot the noise read on.
The winning team with a max score of 9 was St. Mirren. Final entry but well before kick off. :-)
As you can see the key to wining this one was the 2 draws, the rest of the results were fairly run of the mill predictions, the majority getting them right. So well done to St. Mirren, always brave going for a draw, even more so picking 2. Jackpot.
Here's the updated table after week 4. Any queries let me know via inbox. Hopefully get round 5 results posted tomorrow.... 6th round not till 28th so no panic.
Well the engraver has barely just etched ALB on the CECIL CUP (Well done Matt) but the SESL CUP will be underway soon and here's what the 'Wheel of Names' produced for the Group Stages - Thanks to David (HIB) & Bill (EDI) for attending! ...
Group A | Group B | Group C | Group D | |||||
Stenhousemuir | Nairn County | Hamilton Accies | Elgin City | |||||
Alloa Athletic | Greenock Morton | Stranraer | Berwick | |||||
Rangers | Hearts | Dundee FC | Hibernian | |||||
Edinburgh City | East Fife | Arbroath | Montrose | |||||
Queens Park | Albion Rovers | Saint Johnstone | Cowdenbeath | |||||
Dumbarton | Inverness | Brechin City | Celtic | |||||
Group E | Group F | Group G | Group H | |||||
Annan Athletic | Fraserburgh | Deveronvale | Aberdeen | |||||
Motherwell | Clyde FC | Partick Thistle | Ayr United | |||||
Peterhead | Stirling | Clydebank | Raith Rovers | |||||
East Stirlingshire | Queen of the South | Dunfermline Athletic | Livingston | |||||
Ross County | Forfar Athletic | Airdrieonians FC | Cove Rangers | |||||
Kilmarnock | Dundee United | Saint Mirren | Falkirk | |||||
LIVE DRAW will be held WEDS 11th September at 8 PM BST via teams using the random wheel of names!
SESL CUP GROUP DRAW
11 September 2024
20:00 - 20:30 (GMT)
Meeting link: SESL CUP GROUP DRAW | Microsoft Teams | Meetup-Join
... the incentive to attend the LIVE is draw will be $50 k for your team :-)
Hopefully see some of you then ..
Shows what luck can achieve.
Cecil cup final within the last hour.
Shows what positive play and risk taking can achieve.
Scary.
When Hearts came to the Rock I put out the best team of the season - I think - 76% SL used. The numbers looked like this,
MIN TEAM MT GP DEF OFF ------------------------------- 1 DUM E 61.20 147.20 229.70 1 HEA N 28.20 93.64 201.69 46 DUM E 61.20 147.20 257.00
Hearts had a 6 SL DF in the team and it went horribly wrong for Dumbarton. I was later informed that it was *checks notes* LIKELY because Hearts fielded 4 SL 30+ players.
Well, if that's the case I will be putting out junk teams against anyone with 30+ SL players in the future. After all, what's the point.
For anyone without any scary 30+ SL players it will be game on!
on front page poll vote:
What do you think of the 6 goal blowout fine of £120k when under 50% team SL used?
The 120k value is hard coded. But the number of goals is easily edited.
Percentage is also able to be edited between 45 - 70%. Currently 50%.
Another option is to switch blowouts off.
(but currently I think it serves a purpose to discourage playing 2 games at Top 11,
and then every 3rd game perhaps resting your Top 11 players.)
You can now vote and have your say on blowouts.
for background info:-
Blowouts are caused when a team is beaten by a threshold of goals when they use only a low percentage of available skill levels on the roster.
Blowout % is the value which determines what percentage of total skill level should be used by a coach deemed acceptable and within the spirit of the game.
Volunteers for reviewing league play in a Division for 2nd half of season (after the sesl cup matches).
Paul at EF, and David at HIB have thrown their names in the hat.
Anyone else want a go?
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through to match 24:
EF(100) EDI(100) KIL(100)
I have just realised it - talking to myself thinking the darn link isn't working. Going to bed now - long day!! Thanks for the heads up - see you at 8pm tomorrow - IF I can get the camera working..
LIVE DRAW will be held WEDS 11th September at 8 PM BST via teams using the random wheel of names!
SESL CUP GROUP DRAW
11 September 2024
20:00 - 20:30 (GMT)
Meeting link: SESL CUP GROUP DRAW | Microsoft Teams | Meetup-Join
... the incentive to attend the LIVE is draw will be $50 k for your team :-)
Hopefully see some of you then ..
Steady David ... you're only the 24 h early :-) ... see you tomorrow evening!
Trying to get on to it - but no answer - is it working okay?
Bournemouth 2 - 2 Chelsea
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Everton
Brighton 4 - 0 Ipswich Town
Crystal Palace 0 - 0 Leicester City
Fulham 1 - 3 West Ham
Liverpool 3 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Man. City 3 - 0 Brentford
Southampton 0 - 2 Man. United
Tottenham 1 - 2 Arsenal
Wolves 1 - 1 Newcastle
My take on it is when near top of a league you sometimes come up against a weaker than expected lineup sometimes. Managers may rather win against teams nearer them in a league table, and not focus on trying to beat the team at the top..
One reason why I front loaded resources in last couple of seasons.
Not dont that quite as fast this season, and now struggling in the league table.
(Allbeit focus has been on Cecil cup lately)
ARB won Div 1 in season 50 out the blue, as canny coach Craig Bucknall front loaded resources and scooped up many age 4 and 5 high SL players. Was a short term strategy that worked that season.
Teams tended to go easy in games vs the top team so it appeared a fairly easy ride to the league title.
How many managers glance at league table and pick a match they most likely to win in a 2 match session?
Same way, how many managers glance at league table when picking prediction guesses.
Not everyone will see the Top 11 or Top 17 strength.
DEE too good to get relegated, so I think you'll be fine Eduard.
I see that and why HEA sees playing junk squads against them as "clever management".
It certainly worked for HEA.
The table ahead of these matches did indeed already show HEA as "near top of league" ...
14. HEA 1 0 3 4 13 3
15. DEE 0 2 2 3 8 2
Of course, the table after those matches looks quite differently.
It is slightly more difficult to play a 171 than a 21 OFF.
HEA's current effective T17 (after OTF) 25.8 OTOH is clearly superior to DEE's 25.7, somehow.
So let's just say, we agree to disagree here.
Of course that advice is in no way connected to the fact that Hearts are in 3rd place and need teams to beat Clyde and Fraserburgh :-)
1. Focus on winning home game
2. Stall and try draw one or both games
or
3. Play top 11 where EL allows in both games, then rest 1st game of sesl cup group match.
I'd go 3rd choice!
We play FRA and CLY next before the SESL Cup group games. I can't compete in both games...
Clever management may see opposition pick a match they can win and play near their top 11.
For example, say a team like HEA happens to be near top of league, then opposition may focus the high skill players on the other match of the same session sometimes.
For example, a team nearer bottom of league table may appear to some opposition managers as a better chance of 3 points, so play a stronger lineup against the team nearer foot of table.
When the new rule was brought in in MSWL I actually suggested the tougher 40% of T11 (as was the rule in Flatnz which also used effective SL as well) but was outvoted.
Trying to change the passive/normal part of the code is a non-starter, I can't even get a simple change to the line-ups code to fix a bug.
The only way to change anything is to increase the fine or lower the score as a deterrent, or increase the threshold above 50%. But how far? Too high and teams with large squads could struggle to meet the threshold week in week out unless they play T17 all the time. Yawn!
Of course if the rule was changed then teams like Alloa would struggle to overperform.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Sep 8th:
ALO(35) ANN(20) ARB(20) BRE(10) CLY(10) DEE(50) EF(50) EDI(40) FAL(15) FOR(10) FRA(30) GM(10) HEA(10) LIV(20) MOT(30) PT(10) QOS(50) ROS(20) SM(20) SRA(25)
50% at Alloa is certainly technically within the rules.
Given that ALO's all passive OOP approach translates to effectively 35%, it is quite another story.
The blowout rules should be much stricter - and more reasonable, like ...
55% of T17 sum at normal aggression (total SL is a rather silly metric)
fined at 4 goals upwards, even at a lower fine 80k
Currently, there is hardly ever a threat when fielding junk lineups.
And - as mentioned by Bill - this style is detrimental not only to your opponents but also to the competition.
A title should not be won by the number of junk lineups played against.
There are, of course, valid uses of resting lineups, e.g. playoffs or cups.
They start to smell, though, when two similarly skilled squads face quite different lineups.
An entertaining sample involving 4 weeks where DEE and HEA faced exactly the same opponents at the same weekends ...
vs HEA
FRA 50% SL, 74 OFF
ALO 55% all p, 21 OFF
INV 40% 29 OFF, even fielding a SL 2 and SL 4 player
RR 43% 66 OFF
vs DEE
FRA 63% SL, 145 OFF
ALO 77% 171 OFF
INV 71% 173 OFF
RR 62% 184 OFF
I also believe that any tweak to the current rules(maybe even SEVERE changes) would seriously make all the Divisions in SESL way more competitive.
But thats just my opinion and i am open minded enough to accept that i may be wrong.
chees all...Bill
50% is within the rules i believe....
but i have to say that as a divisional game reporter, that i repeatedly see MUCH lower ave SL %age used.
this week alone, i commented on a game that a manager used 35%...and in another game i saw 40%(?).
Those two examples i call abuse.
Most managers actually manage their rosters re EL and rotate their squad(thats called MANAGEMENT...others flog their best players until they are all totally knackered and then send out a starting line-up @ 40% and also use 'Stall' tactics = which means they are 'throwing' some games. that may be ok for their team but is totally detrimental to other competitors who are doing yjeir best with what they have.
Mar18: blowouts | |
What do you think of the 6 goal blowout fine of £120k when under 50% team SL used? |
VOTING SUMMARY
CHOICE | TOTAL VOTES |
No change - or sitting on fence | 20 |
other (please specify) | 9 |
Change to a 5 goal difference for blowout | 6 |
Increase £120k fine to £150k fine | 1 |
Previous Poll
Bill, do you mean what I do where I play 50% to avoid the fine but risk losing heavily? Or what Peterhead do quite a lot and play well below 50%, hope for the best but accept the 120k fine?
IMHO.....oops
I would be fascinated to see a 'Poll' re 'Blowout rule and fines'.
It is becoming something of an epedemic in recent seasons and is far too open to abuse currently IMH.
Thoughts anyone ??
Back from my cruise - arms are sore from the rowing) tomorrow in time for the SESL Cup draw in the evening - thanks for putting it on to allow me back -needing the money and a decent draw.
But my thanks are to Paul and Marc for keeping the reviews going (and very well too I may say) whilst I was on the high seas, and i appreciate their willingness to cover for me.
PS surprisingly I managed to buy 7 CPs so do have some for sale - check the transaction box if interested. π€π€
FAL sends 220k to ALO for 2 CP
ALO sends 1 CP to FRA for 120k
LIVE DRAW will be held WEDS 11th September at 8 PM BST via teams using the random wheel of names!
SESL CUP GROUP DRAW
11 September 2024
20:00 - 20:30 (GMT)
Meeting link: SESL CUP GROUP DRAW | Microsoft Teams | Meetup-Join
... the incentive to attend the LIVE is draw will be $50 k for your team :-)
Hopefully see some of you then ..
The premiership returns next weekend
Bournemouth 1 - 2 Chelsea
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Everton
Brighton 2 - 0 Ipswich Town
Crystal Palace 2 - 0 Leicester City
Fulham 2 - 1 West Ham
Liverpool 2 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Man. City 3 - 0 Brentford
Southampton 1 - 2 Man. United
Tottenham 1 - 2 Arsenal
Wolves 1 - 2 Newcastle
Bill is correct.
Back in the email days we only got 35 TP for free and we had the 400 max rule where your team's total SL couldn't exceed 400 so CP wasn't needed like it is today (we dream of those days here at Alloa). CP was valued at 80k and TP 115k. I think there was less participation bonuses (less money to spend) and possibly less players in auctions.
The overwhelming reason is because EVERY team are given 40 TPs at the start of each season for FREE.
Whereas we have to buy every CP.
With skill level added via TP ageing less and slower than age 2, 3 or 4 players who may get CP,
why is TP not worth more than CP? π€·
Go to stats and see what your total SL is. EDI is 357 but have a player suspended with 28 SL so 329 is used. 50% of that is 164.5
Add players in their proper positions and all n. Look at the totals at the bottom of the Line-up table. Note that only 1 GK is counted here so you have to factor that in yourself (you might play a second GK at SW). Also I believe if a SW is placed low down they are ignored. I have no idea in a second SW is ignored as I don't use them.
If you're using subs of different SLs you have to work this out yourself. In my game against STJ I had 3 SL 29 players playing 36 or 54 minutes. I needed 1 (or 2) of these to play the 54 minutes.
Once you have tweaked to make sure you're above 50% you can then change positions (move MF to DF, WG and FW to MF if you're just hoping to keep the score down) then put players passive, especially the high SL ones.
Then hope you don't get any red cards.
More exactly:
- unmodified sum SL < 50% of total SL (not including suspended and injured players)
There must have been 3 more fined blowouts this season, since the average Blowout Costs per team is 10k.
It is still applied, and there has been at least 1 fined match: #13 ROS - AI 6-0
The rule states:
120k fine, if
- loss by >= 6 goals
- unmodified sum SL < 50% of total SL
I am surprised how many "risky" lineups show up in div 1.
I only see them elsewhere though, never ever vs Dundee.
Does the 'Blowout' rule still exist and if so what are the particulars please anyone ?
This is the diagram. CP prices are slowly getting higher. Obviously, with all the records in the list, a few bids of 110K don't show right away. Next to that, the first entry I logged was a lates season auction I think, with a lucky bid (209 for 8 CP).
TP does not really fluctuate though
Great information Arnold.
I can see your prices noted - and average cost a bit lower than I expected.
Your image is maybe located on your own phone or laptop.
To share an image online you need to host it on a public server somewhere in the world. And then post it here.
somehow the diagram doesn't want to show.
Not sure how that works here
I have kept track of it over the last 3 seasons.
Currently
avg TP 85
avg CP 103
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 24:
Ross County - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 23:
Hearts - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWD)
Clyde FC - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
Raith Rovers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
Cowdenbeath - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Livingston - MVP #3: 1 TP (dWw)
Kilmarnock - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWW)
Queen of the South - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
110k per CP is an average trading price at a guess.
90k per TP is an average trading price at a guess.
Auction can be quite variable. Rarely a bargain, and just needs two or more managers seeking resources to push the auction price up obviously.
Does anyone keep the cost of resources at previous seasons auctions, as a guide?
Shouldn't be an issue selling the extra CP afterwards, maybe even for a small profit. The TP some years would be the same way, some years might be tricky to sell. At least with TP, if you end up with extra, it's really no issue to carry them over to the next season
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Sep 1st:
ALB(10) ALO(50) ARB(20) BRE(5) CLY(30) COV(10) COW(20) DEE(25) EF(50) EDI(50) FAL(25) FRA(25) HIB(35) LIV(25) MOT(10) PT(10) ROS(20) SM(40) STI(10) SRA(20)
The naming for resource bids does not work because the system checks for the name to be in your roster.
What I usually do (and I seldom win a resource bid...) is to go higher on one lot and not so high on another.
In truth, resources never come out as bargains in the auctions...
But we have to make sure you have a bid there if there is an opportunity for a bargain...
My 2 centavos...
I have played with "named" bids to control the bids, but it hasn't triggered.
It's apparently implemented as a check against the existing player names in your squad.
So effectively after buying a player with a given name he turns into a name in your squad - which nullifies the following bets with the same name.
Therefore you COULD nullify ressource bids by getting a player. But, alas, successful CP bids never show up as player names in your squad.
....sell-on.......with a dynamic ticket pricing strategy.......
Yes, you just have to sell any excess on I believe
As a poorer club this often doesnt present a problem ,because as soon as I win 1 bid there is invariably not enough money left in my bank account to win a second .:)
I named multiple CP bids with a pretend name of "CP" each time last season, but seems "player name" is ignored when resorce bidding.
In a normal auction if you name your resource the same as an auction player you win then you bid on the resource will be voided - but is probably because the player is added to your team immediately.
It might work if you name all your resource bids but I doubt it.
Failing that I'm sure the 2nd place bidder will buy the resources off you.
Has anyone found a way to bid win just 1 auction lot of resources, and then have all future bids auto voided?
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through to match 20:
EDI(200) HIB(100) KIL(200) PT(100)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 22:
Albion Rovers - MVP #3: 1 TP (Wwd)
LIVE DRAW will be held WEDS 11th September at 8 PM BST via teams using the random wheel of names!
SESL CUP GROUP DRAW
11 September 2024
20:00 - 20:30 (GMT)
Meeting link: SESL CUP GROUP DRAW | Microsoft Teams | Meetup-Join
... the incentive to attend the LIVE is draw will be $50 k for your team :-)
Hopefully see some of you then ..
EDI sends 115k to AI for 1 CP
I was wondering what all the fuss was about, so I listened to an Oasis track on YouTube.
I am wondering what all the fuss is about....
EDI sends 115k to MON for 1 CP
.....good win but I came bottom last week. No idea how I turned it around but I will spend the $$$ on even more Champers, Caviar and Oasis tickets.......
EDI sends 115k to ROS for 1 CP
Some tough games to predict, but much higher proportion of exact results than I am used to seeing. Well done Andrew on the W.
Andrew McCumiskey 14.5
John McCarthy 12.5
Paul Cockyne 11.5
Andrew Foss-Grant 9.0
Alon Atie 8.5
David Blair 6.0
Andy Shaw 6.0
Roy Rolsten 2.5
Quite a land slide victory it seems, so far.
VOTING SUMMARY
CHOICE | TOTAL VOTES |
Yes, 3pm UK time in summer and winter | 15 |
No, leave it as it is | 6 |
other comment | 3 |
Sitting on fence | 2 |
Bit like DEE trading π
2 less SL, but worth more than double π€·
July 21, 2024
DEE sends 150k to COV for Declan Glass (1/14 MF).
July 17, 2024
DEE sends Alan Wright (1/12 MF) to SM for 320k.
Posted for a bit of fun.
Well played DEE getting those deals done. π
......same as in SESL. Initial CP pricing at the start of the season kind of echoes the Ticketmaster Oasis server....cheap-ish at the start then the pain starts. A practice that will soon to be outlawed by an act of parliament. Will the SESL Commissioners be finally brought down to earth and have to halve the Caviar and Champers lifestyle?? Will SRA ever be able to afford 50 CPs? One can but dream.....
Definitely NOT! Not a band I've ever had any interest in. In the same Category as Weller, Jarvis, Blur to name but a few. no interest whatsoever
ANN sends 1 TP to NAI for 87k
HEA sends 200k to SM for Martinez (4/19 GK)
You have to feel for Lyall and his manager but both incidents clearly highlight the risks of players starting with low EL.
Many managers regularly start players with low EL and get away with it which is ok but when it backfires it tends to do so very badly.
Thats what rotation is for LOL.
ROS sends 90k to EDI for 1 TP
That's what you call taking one for the team!
Match 12 - starts on EL 4 and, after 80 minutes at EL -2, he picks up a -16 injury. Gets back to EL 2 for the match against Partick Thistle (match 20), plays 74 minute to be at EL -3 and picks up a -32 injury - and the man of the match award.
The big bright yellow-orange shape thing has finally made an appearance in South Lanarkshire. League reviews will be first thing tomorrow morning
Who believed the hype...
The brother may well have fallen out again before the shows next year.
Do tickets come with cancellation insurance π€
Nope - not a fan -couldn't give me a ticket for a show of theirs - they are just short of cash - hence their burying of the hatchets (πͺ a while ago they would have been at each others throats). Do we need some more has beens coming back- seems we do!! π₯±π₯±
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 20:
Greenock Morton - MVP #3: 1 TP (DWw)
Edinburgh City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Elgin City - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWw)
Saint Mirren - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 19:
Stenhousemuir - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Albion Rovers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Celtic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Annan Athletic - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
I read somewhere that everyone is an Oasis fan.
I must have missed that memo.
Anyone lucky?
Thanks for reminder
Get your Notebook entries in.
Apologies for lack of round 4 updates, been snowed under in work etc. Might be able to do them tomorrow morning.
EDI are looking to BUY 3 CPs or failing that, EDI are prepared to SELL 2 CPs.
Whilst it may sound strange to some folks, it is all a question of trying to balance the books with a view to NEXT season.
EDI will accept the first suitable offer posted and happily settle for that.
Thanks in advance.
RAN sends 4 TP to FRA for 120k, 2 CP
Another goal blitz today with 20 goals in the 4 quarter final 2nd leg matches.
Not a spoiler as I'm not mentioning any of the games in particular - check them out yourself. π
Steve,
Not a problem. I do not let it get to me. I said this season was for rebuilding and so it is.
Are you fed up of people telling you what to do yet?
Yes we could have put them on Gordon Ramsey but he will loss all of the plus 1 due to ageing.
We are looking to bring on the younger players so may use to gain extra TP's. This whole season is about a rebuild as will next we are doing better than I was thinking we would so lets see how we go.
Gordon Ramsay 3/24 MF says "Stop".
(at least the foul mouthed chef didn't use any fruity language!)
RAN sends 335k to SM for 3 CP
DEE sends 330k to SM for 3 CP
Arsenal 1 - 0 Brighton
Brentford 2 - 2 Southampton
Chelsea 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Everton 1 - 0 Bournemouth
Ipswich Town 1 - 0 Fulham
Leicester City 1 - 0 Aston Villa
Man. United 0 - 0 Liverpool
Newcastle 2 - 0 Tottenham
Nottingham Forest 1 - 2 Wolves
West Ham 0 - 5 Man. City
Arsenal 2-1 Brighton
Brentford 1-1 Southampton
Chelsea 3-1 Crystal Palace
Everton 1-0 Bournemouth
Ipswich Town 2-2 Fulham
Leicester City 1-1 Aston Villa
Man United 1-1 Liverpool
Newcastle 1-2 Tottenham
Nottingham Forest 1-1 Wolves
West Ham 1-2 Man City
Arsenal 3 - 0 Brighton
Brentford 3 - 1 Southampton
Chelsea 4 - 1 Crystal Palace
Everton 2 - 2 Bournemouth
Ipswich Town 1 - 1 Fulham
Leicester City 0 - 2 Aston Villa
Man. United 0 - 1 Liverpool
Newcastle 1 - 2 Tottenham
Nottingham Forest 1 - 0 Wolves
West Ham 1 - 3 Man. City
Arsenal 3 - 1 Brighton
Brentford 3 - 0 Southampton
Chelsea 2 - 2 Crystal Palace
Everton 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Ipswich Town 1 - 3 Fulham
Leicester City 1 - 3 Aston Villa
Man. United 2 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 3 - 2 Tottenham
Nottingham Forest 1 - 0 Wolves
West Ham 1 - 3 Man. City
Arsenal 3 - 1 Brighton
Brentford 2 - 2 Southampton
Chelsea 3 - 0 Crystal Palace
Everton 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Ipswich Town 0 - 2 Fulham
Leicester City 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Man. United 1 - 3 Liverpool
Newcastle 1 - 1 Tottenham
Nottingham Forest 1 - 2 Wolves
West Ham 1 - 4 Man. City
Arsenal 2 - 0 Brighton
Brentford 2 - 1 Southampton
Chelsea 4 - 0 Crystal Palace
Everton 1 - 2 Bournemouth
Ipswich Town 0 - 0 Fulham
Leicester City 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Man. United 1 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 0 - 1 Tottenham
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Wolves
West Ham 0 - 5 Man. City
Arsenal 2 - 1 Brighton
Brentford 2 - 1 Southampton
Chelsea 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Everton 1 - 2 Bournemouth
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Fulham
Leicester City 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Man. United 1 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 0 - 1 Tottenham
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Wolves
West Ham 0 - 3 Man. City
Last gameweek before we break for one week for the international break.
Its coming early this year and I think European soccer starts when we resume after the 1 week break.
Arsenal 2 - 0 Brighton
Brentford 2 - 1 Southampton
Chelsea 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Everton 1 - 2 Bournemouth
Ipswich Town 1 - 2 Fulham
Leicester City 1 - 2 Aston Villa
Man. United 1 - 2 Liverpool
Newcastle 1 - 1 Tottenham
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Wolves
West Ham 0 - 2 Man. City
We have Division 2 this weekend.
I won't be able to post week 4 results until Thursday at the earliest.
Our groundsman takes care of our pitch in all weather. You often see him proudly looking over the grass he's just cut and you think.... he's "out standing in his field"
As many clubs prepare for the on-coming winter, insurance companies have warned clubs buying pitch frost protection sheets that if there is a storm then they will not be covered.......
A ridiculous performance by Andy Shaw blowing the fiels away with 17 points.
Andy Shaw 17
Alon Atie 11
Mark Creasey 10.5
Paul Cockyne 9.5
Les Lithgo 8
David Blair 7
Andrew McCumiskey 6.5
PT sends 4 TP to MOT for 360k
FRA sends 460k to PT for 5 TP
How big a factor is Home Advantage?
Is it worth paying extra for?
After cup games today, I know one or two extra shots for Home team is welcomed, but is it a deciding factor when some matches have over 20 shots in total?
... all four quarter finals yielded a glut of shots.
One game had 26 shots, and another 28. This seems way higher than average (guessing)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Aug 25th:
ALO(50) ARB(30) CLY(10) COW(50) DUM(35) DEE(40) EF(50) EDI(30) FAL(25) FOR(10) FRA(40) HAM(10) HEA(25) HIB(50) LIV(30) MOT(45) NAI(10) QOS(25) ROS(20) STJ(10) SM(30) SRA(10)
...all four quarter finals yielded the same number of goals in total
To everyone that reminded me not used to these Monday kick offs
Looks like 7/8 managers have their lineups in, but just posting a reminder for ALB, as those Monday kickoff can always trip up someone
No clear winner yet on front page poll vote.
Cast your votes chaps.
It is true that whatever kick off time is put in place somebody will be inconvenienced - in any game(s) I have played I went with whatever the game dictated. Personally I feel that once the time is in stone if it is the same winter and summer, it is easier to remember it, and be ready for it. But I stay in the UK - probably easier for us here.
There is a Poll on it, and quite a few of us have voted so we can see how it pans out.. For sure it won't improve my team's results one jot!!!
I think the kickoff times debate will affect some managers much more than others. Any change to make the kickoffs earlier might affect the QP manager (and any others that live around the pacific) more than others, since he is 8 hours behind the UK most of the year.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Aug 18th:
ALO(20) ANN(15) ARB(25) COW(50) DEV(20) DUM(20) DEE(30) DUU(10) EF(50) EST(10) EDI(50) FAL(15) FRA(10) GM(10) HIB(50) LIV(20) MOT(30) PT(15) ROS(35) SM(20) STE(20) SRA(5)
Steve is right, the MVP seem to be notified 1 hour "early".
Silly farmers and their daylight saving time nonsense
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I wasn't trying to imply Matt had posted after the deadline - but it is confusing when MVPs and I think Trades are posted as GMT times but the Notebook and I think other Blogs like this are BST.
Posted at 18.38 BST
It's always a good idea to be suspicious about perfect scores, but I happened to check in after Matt posted his PL way before the matches, so everything's ok.
Congrats BTW
I did put in my predictions 58 minutes before the games are played as first game is not played until 16.00.
Just forgot , been a busy weekand remembered whilst looking at website.
Sorry will not leave as late next week
Good observation.
But I reckon this was 58 minutes before kick off due to clock GMT difference.
Matt can confirm himself though.
I was having a look and see lots of 6 and 7 point scores - with a very low payout to the winners.
And then I see a max score - posted at 15.02
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 16:
Raith Rovers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WDw)
Motherwell - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wDw)
Rangers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Clyde FC - MVP #3: 1 TP (dWw)
Montrose - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 15:
Stranraer - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wdW)
Ross County - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWD)
Greenock Morton - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Clydebank - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWD)
Saint Mirren - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWW)
Elgin City - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Ans a sequel was on TV last night where they were shifted out of the Highland League - they now play in the North Caledonian League alongside sides from Golspie Tain etc. (I ran the line in that league way back).
Fort William is another football ground with an incredible backdrop. Ben Nevis no less. Was "lucky" to play on Claggan Park in my youth, it was always a cold and dreich place but the view made up for it. There was a documentary on Fort William FC on BBC Scotland a few years back as they were so terrible, might still be there if anyone has an interest. Annoyingly their first non-defeat for a while was vs Nairn County.
Wow, that is a genuine photo of the Dumbarton home ground in blog below.
I just googled.
Not quite a munro in background, but cool scenery.
Back in the early days I think this was a fair tactic as there was no 50% rule and managers would have to appeal.
But every manager has the choice whether to play below 50% or not. It shouldn't be up to the opposing manager to avoid the blowout.
Round tomorrow, not many entries so far.
If score goes to 4-1 then team with 4 goals goes back to full shot % chance, its not like they stuck at reduced shot chance for rest of match.
If both teams shot % went down 50% at 4 goals up, maybe some managers would just Press team tactic until 4 goals up then Stall as no way back in to game if opposition also 50% chance reduced.
I dont think we need to worry about games like this as they are incredibly rare.
There was a perfect storm of reasons why his one happened. The game state as has been pointed out was that CB had a 5 goal deficit. They also had their first choice goalie suspended so they were forced into playing a 17SL keeper. They still played press the entire game as they gambled that FRA would try and stall out this fixture. Thaey got that call correct to start and FRA were 4-0 down after 15 minutes with a Press V stall..However at that stage FRA changed tactics bringing on our best 3 atackers and switching to an early cross v Press. .These ultra agressive setups by both managers, whilst both using their 2nd choice goalies led to the high scoreline.
Interestingly We could have been even more ahead after the first leg which we were really dominating but at 5-0 I had my standard S instruction to try make sure I dont blow teams out, so the last 8 minutes of the first leg we didnt even try and score.
Great thing in the end that we had an 11-7 game though as it really seems to have gotten managers thinking.
Generally speaking the system does not allow for big scores. The mechanism to reduce high scores is basic. Once a team has a 4 goal lead then their shot chance is reduced by 50%. I think the actual wording is different but that is what happens. If you start with a high shot chance then even with half of that you might still add more to the total goals so we sometimes get a 5-0 game.
My problem is this - and I have said it many times before - why just the team that is 4 ahead?
The system is there to stop scorelines that would not happen in RL but, as seen on Wednesday, it can produce the exact opposite.
In RL a team that is winning 4-0 will 'take the foot off the gas' but I would suggest that that team will also just 'keep ball' and the game will fizzle out but not in SESL. The team losing 4-0 still have their shot chance at the max - this is my problem. I believe their shot chance should also be reduced to stop rediculous scorelines such as 11-7.
Specifically, with the CB v FRA tie, the problem CB had was they were 5-0 after the first leg so needed to win 6-0 (or by 6 goals) to progress. The problem with getting that result is two fold. First, you have to score a fifth goal after the 50% reduction to Shot Chance and then you have to score a sixth goal after another 50% reduction to shot chance. That is a tall order - too tall. Second, you have to do this all the while your opponent remains on max shot chance.
However, having said all that, CB were 2-0 down in the first leg and then changed to PRESS. That resulted in losing a further 3 goals. 2-0 or even 3-0 can be overcome in the second leg at home but 5-0... No.
The damage was done in the first leg and there was no way back for CB - under the current game mechanics.
Right, back to work...
I looked particularly at this match as my next opponents come from this pairing. When I saw the scoreline, I naturally assumed I'd playing the 11-goal team.....
Wow, 51 goals scored in the 8 matches played yesterday. Great for the spectators, pretty bad for the various defenders, I'm guessing. And hard to accept scoring 11 goals over 2 legs and still not going through...!!! Still not a spoiler...
Adding that you need to use the "c" to change player aggresion level but also to change positions!
Cheers!
You need the c to change aggression.
Don't do what I did once a long time ago.
Player A T>=30 G<0 Player B a
He was down as n on the subs bench at his desired position and I wanted him to come on aggressive rather than normal.
T>=30 C d
Drop down menu of player names has letter C at the top as an option.
My guess is C stands for Change - so change player to dirty would be the command.
My recent orders included a rather trivial conditional ...
Scott Tiffoney T>=30 selected d
however, at minute 30: nothing happened!?
Min 24: Joel Nouble (LIV) escapes the offside flag... ...as a ball is played up to him... ...but Owen Beck (DEE) muscles out the big striker before he can control. Min 35: Scott Tiffoney (DEE) tries a wildly ambitious effort from distance... ...which trundles back to Robbie McCrorie in a restful Sunday type of way.
Tiffoney stayed n until the end.
What's the right way to switch aggression and / or is this a known bug?
Classic cup tie 10 minutes ago.
And clever team tactic change after 15 minutes when plans went up in smoke!
No spoilers.
Go enjoy the match.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 14:
Dundee FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
While i agree with Dave....to a point. Its always useful to have a decent back up GK.
As for the price that the keeper is valued at, NOT unreasonable but as Dave says, with every passing week, his value drops.
Add to that scenario....Trading has been very slow this season todate and thatdrives the price of everything down IMHO.
HEA only have 1 GK in roster currently, but a back-up GK that will start next season as approx 5/19 is not worth anywhere near 950k to HEA just now.
Hope you find a home for him. If no one else waats him I'll take GK if you wish propose a trade at a far far lower amount.
Each Saturday that passes can knock another 100k off each week, in my opinion.
I happy to play my SW as a back up GK in meantime as I do not subscribe to the two big GK's majority of rosters seem to have.
A back up GK maybe plays 30% of a season? Huge waste of SL sat on subs bench.
How many would have two age 0 SW's - with one sat as a sub 70% of season.
I appologise in advance for misusing this forum but the trade lists are almost empty so I dont think people are looking at them.
Is there no one interested in my 4/28Gk valued at 950K.
A real superstar?
Bournemouth 1-0 Newcastle
Aston Villa 1-1 Arsenal
Brighton 0-0 Manchester United
Crystal Palace 0-1 West Ham
Fulham 1-1 Leicester City
Liverpool 2-0 Brentford
Man City 3-0 Ipswich Town
Southampton 1-0 Nottingham Forest
Tottenham 2-0 Everton
Wolves 0-2 Chelsea
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 3 Winners:
EF(50) SM(50)
2 winners this week, well done to St.Mirren and East Fife. 50k each
It was a fairly standard scoring week, a dusting of 'shocks' flung in but 7 home wins always meant there was never going to be a repeat of the first couple of weeks.
There were 3 shocks, the biggest probably Deveronvale's win at home to Brechin. The away side selecting this one for bit of a rest I suspect. It was also a banker selection for a few folk.
We have another round this coming Saturday, Notebook entries are open!!!
Bournemouth 2-1 Newcastle
Aston Villa 1-3 Arsenal
Brighton 1-0 Manchester United
Crystal Palace 2-1 West Ham
Fulham 1-1 Leicester City
Liverpool 2-0 Brentford
Man City 3-0 Ipswich Town
Southampton 1-2 Nottingham Forest
Tottenham 2-0 Everton
Wolves 1-2 Chelsea
Bournemouth 1-2 Newcastle
Aston Villa 1-2 Arsenal
Brighton 1-1 manure
Crystal Palace 0-2 West Ham
Fulham 2-0 Leicester City
Liverpool 4-1 Brentford
Man City 5-0 Ipswich Town
Southampton 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Tottenham 3-0 Everton
Wolves 0-2 Chelsea
Bournemouth 1-2 Newcastle
Aston Villa 2-2 Arsenal
Brighton 2-2 Man United
Crystal Palace 2-0 West Ham
Fulham 2-0 Leicester City
Liverpool 4-2 Brentford
Man City 3-0 Ipswich Town
Southampton 3-1 Nottingham Forest
Tottenham 3-0 Everton
Wolves 0-1 Chelsea
Bournemouth 1-2 Newcastle
Aston Villa 1-2 Arsenal
Brighton 2-2 Man United
Crystal Palace 0-0 West Ham
Fulham 2-0 Leicester City
Liverpool 4-2 Brentford
Man City 4-0 Ipswich Town
Southampton 3-1 Nottingham Forest
Tottenham 3-0 Everton
Wolves 1-1 Chelsea
Bournemouth 1-1 Newcastle
Aston Villa 0-2 Arsenal
Brighton 2-1 Man United
Crystal Palace 1-2 West Ham
Fulham 2-0 Leicester City
Liverpool 3-0 Brentford
Man City 4-0 Ipswich Town
Southampton 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Tottenham 3-1 Everton
Wolves 0-2 Chelsea
Gameweek 1 rather came up on me too sneakily and I missed getting a prediction competition in.
However I am all up to speed now for Gameweek 2, which starts this saturday.
Bournemouth 1 - 2 Newcastle
Aston Villa 1 - 2 Arsenal
Brighton 1 - 1 Man. United
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 West Ham
Fulham 2 - 1 Leicester City
Liverpool 2 - 0 Brentford
Man. City 3 - 0 Ipswich Town
Southampton 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Tottenham 2 - 0 Everton
Wolves 1 - 2 Chelsea
Now we have the money we have purchased a 0/5 MF Jay Henderson, hopefully he will develop quickly and be a force to be reckoned with next season.
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through to match 13:
EDI(200) HIB(200) KIL(200)
The following teams receive retire for apprentices through :
ROS(528)
Make sure you claim your money for retiring 4 decent oldies last weekend Rob.
Today we have added apprentice MF Jay Henderson who hopefully will develop over this season and be a force to reckon with in the future.
Appreciate your offers and I accept. I will inform Mark and you lads will get the pay due (less my commission of 25% - just kidding..π€π€).
I'll be able to read them whilst rowing - just don't have time to write them - be at an evening meal and show both nights.
Thanks again.
STE sends 1 TP to DEE for 90k
I'll throw my name in the hat for the weekend fixtures of the 31st August
I can do September 7th....
How I miss the proper Saturday, 3pm kick offs. Both here and in the SPL. Seems my team now play exclusively on a Sunday
I will be away on the High Seas (no, I am NOT a pirate!) for the Saturdays 31st August and 7th September - games 19/20 and 23/24.
Would someone like to do the 2nd division reviews for these 2 dates - and get paid for them!!
Please inbox me if you are keen...
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 13:
Hibernian - MVP #3: 1 TP (WdW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 12:
Stenhousemuir - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Fraserburgh - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Clyde FC - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Stirling - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Guess it's a bit like marriage - you get used to things after a while - experience talking here πππ
It won't happen, but the blogs might be beneficial in the long run. π°π°
Not sure if a change of KO time for European mainland, or American based managers, would cause confusion?
Can't wait for the hour to go back in Ictober - much prefer the 3pm and 4pm games.
Wonder if the timetable can be altered next spring so the whole year could be 3pm and 4pm - or is that just me? π€π€π€π€
Ajax beating Panathinaikos 13-12 on penalties is the second-biggest penalty shootout score in a European competition,
behind Glentoran's 14-13 defeat by Gzira United in Conference League qualifying last season.
Good blog below Leon.
And what about the penalty shoot-out last night that took 25 MINUTES!?
Ajax reach the Europa League qualifying play-off round.
Goalkeeper Remko Pasveer aged 40 saved five penalties, oh and the GK also scored one!
We have division 3 to mess up predictions on tomorrow.
We have division 3 to mess up predictions on tomorrow.
DF Thomas O Brien upgraded at ARB ...
Upgrade Winners:
D1 - FRA
D2 - ARB & SRA
D3 - ELG, QOS & PT
Will ManU manage to sign Frenkie de Jong this season? Out of all attempts they made past seasons it seems now the timing is actually right. Barca want to get rid of him (30 million a year), the fans rather see him go...and Frenkie himself, well, with the departure of Sergi Roberto there's now no one left from the team he originally joined....she he might be open to leave.
I'm no ManU fan or anything, but I am a fan of Erik ten Hag as he has given me the most attractive playing Ajax side I have seen in my life (which includes the glory days with Louis van Gaal in the nineties). I had high hopes for ten Hag when he moved to ManU, and the first fe games of his first season were hopefull. Though, he was never able to find the right 'number 8' to glue everything, so his plans crumbled and he had to adapt to less appealing tactics.
Frenkie is the missing piece, I truly believe that. And I am sure that if Frenkie signs to ManU they will soon top the league again while hearing the respected Football BOBO's asking 'Guardiola who?'
Bold statement? Maybe? But definitely not that unrealistic.
Many thanks for the clarification Andrew.
Final thing I forgot to mention: participation is paid out on the weekly basis based on the blog/journal time stamp. Monday 00:00 to Sunday 23:59. So, it may vary by an hour with daylight savings time depending on where you live, but you can always check on the timing on Sunday nights by looking at the "recently online" section on the front page - that will end up matching what shows on your post.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Aug 11th:
ALB(10) ALO(50) ANN(20) BRE(50) CLY(15) DUM(25) DEE(30) DUU(35) EF(50) EDI(50) FAL(15) HAM(25) HEA(10) HIB(50) LIV(10) MOT(25) PT(20) QOS(35) QP(25) ROS(45) STJ(35) SM(15) STE(50) SRA(20)
Oh, and a disclaimer that the below really applies mainly to the average blog/journal post. There are some official officer duties that may be judged somewhat on their own scale. E.g. Mark has to often post reminders about retirements/deadlines/etc that have to be copied and pasted each season at certain times. I don't give him 20-25k each time as if he were writing some long de-novo rules post, but I do include that as a participation event.
For those curious this past weekend, here is a general guide:
Blog posts tend to be about 10-15k each, depending on if it is just a quick comment or a more in-depth discussion. Some posts (e.g. 'I have 1 CP for sale') may score as low as 5k and others (e.g. a full summary of stats from 57 seasons of SESL) may go well above 15k.
Journals tend to be about 15k to 25k, with most falling at 20k each. So, if you look at the average effort of journals, you can assume that's about 20k.
50k max per week.
Not dropped from LA becuase it was never in, Paris was always a one-off "guest appearance" I believe
DEE sends 180k to EF for 2 TP
I may now take up break dancing as the barriers to entry are very low...
Probably not the best idea to improve your breaking moves - since it's been dropped at LA28 already.
Much thanks to Mark for his amazingly quick response.
A good and interesting poll to boot.
SuperStar upgrade request
ARB Thomas O Brien DF 0/5 boost please Daniel.
Just for some added interest....
We must be due a 'Poll' or two ?
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 11:
Saint Johnstone - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Livingston - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
I was fortunate enough to attend the games in Paris. The Olympics are both a remarkable sporting gathering and a ridiculous sporting gathering...
I may now take up break dancing as the barriers to entry are very low...
Decent participation in Prediction League with 30 managers having played either round 1 or 2.
Well done to all involved.
WOW!!!
EDI can't score goals...
EDI can't win games....
EDI seemingly can predict other teams results...
Well, in week 2 at least.....in won't last LOL
Back to normal in week 3.
With it being only week 2 there's not much to write about in relation to the table, 2 low scoring weeks mean it likely that one or both of these scores could be discounted after week 8. Also means no one is running away with anything at this stage.
Any queries mailbox me.
We have round 3 this weekend, entries are up on the Notebook.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 2 Winners:
EDI(100)
Apologies for the lateness of these results I was on holiday last week and trying to keep as far away from any laptop as possible. Hence the multiple posting of my own Prediction League entries as I attempted them on my phone. I must learn to close the browser on the phone after submitting any details in SESL.
I also managed to lose a 1/2 written blog… ouch.
Round 1 was tough, round 2 was also tough. We had another zero score, thankfully not St. Johnstone, this time it was St. Mirren who drew a blank. We had an average score of 3.04. In most seasons past this would have been the lowest average.
So what drove the low average. Unsurprisingly it was surprise results.
Similar to week 11 only 1 result that formed over 50% of peoples selections actually came through. Forfar's home win against Arbroath attracting 85% of the selections. It also made up 48% of the banker selections.
The biggest shock was Edinburgh City managing a draw away to Nairn, only QOS saw that one coming.
In fact our winner was Edinburgh City, who managed a very nice 7 points. No one else got close, winning by 3 points. This despite not seeing his own team causing an upset.
Well done William, 100k all to yourself.
FW Mondo Polestar upgraded at SRA ...
Upgrade Winners:
D1 - FRA
D2 - ARB & SRA
D3 - ELG, QOS & PT
......please!
......please!
Personally don't see the need to punish players for making a mistake. Maybe if you did it more than once.
Will it make it less likely to happen, I'm not so sure. That's kind of the nature of mistakes.
Fra are very grateful to have won the superstar upgrade.
All my thanks to Daniel for organising the draw.
If you never think you are going to make a slip of the finger and delete a player, 100k sounds good - it is extra work for Mark (and he doesn't get the cash).
(NOW I will be wary of every delete from now on............ ) :-)
ELG & QOS have upgraded MF MacDonald & FW Patterson, respectively ....
Upgrade Winners:
D1 - FRA
D2 - ARB & SRA
D3 - ELG, QOS & PT
Seems fair.
I think I retired 5 age 0/10 players by mistake can I have them reinstated!
Agree π
100k isn't too high a price to pay for a slip of the finger. I think I was trying to zoom in my screen and caught the retire button.
As it happens Dave kindly offered me to 2/10 DF for 100k which was nice of him as he had him on the transfer list for 200k. And I'll get 75k for him in a couple of seasons.
Similar things can happen in SFLSL where it's easy to scout the first player in the list or in United where it's easy to get the first BRB before selecting the one you actually want.
The following teams receive retire for apprentices through :
ABE(250) ALB(438) ALO(469) ANN(152) ARB(511) AYR(226) BRE(670) CEL(174) DEV(260) DUU(180) EF(134) EST(180) ELG(270) FAL(570) FOR(478) GM(528) HEA(550) HIB(408) INV(188) LIV(624) NAI(166) QOS(182) QP(90) STJ(354) SM(230)
There have been 3 recent occasions of players retired by a slip of the finger or mouse.
Myself and game creator Al Sellers spent alot of time last season trying to resurrect a 0/11 SW. So while I could view the player in a retired database table on the game server, we just couldn't transfer him from archive back in to live database. Frustrating.
For 100k I will create a new player to match a player retired by accident during this season.
Anyone with strong opinions on this then please blog for review. A rule change can be set in stone from end of this season at an appropriate level for what is an honest mistake by a coach.
EDI sends 270k to ABE for 3 TP
ALB sends 450k to ABE for 5 TP
HEA sends Dave McPherson (2/10 DF) to ALO for 100k
Wouldn't fit in my pocket.
Maybe use a 30'' interface?
What dies that mean please?
I googled, and I am still none the wiser.
I'm all for reinstating accidental retirements.
However, given that the undo must be done manually, and those cases raise several issues (as seen last season) I suggest a minor administrative fee (in the future) - just as motivation to maybe use a 30'' interface.
Yes, Bill, I know the player can't be undeleted but if it happened to you and you didn't get a replacement then I guess he's gone for good.
Unfortunately i did the same thing earlier in the season and i was officially informed that when a player is retired(deleted)...the systen can NOT undelete the player.
A team retired a 0/11 SW last season by accident and it had to be manually added back in game I think.
Was it ROS maybe?
Sure something be sorted for you Steve.
I was retiring players and accidentally retired Bryce Smith 2/10 DF on my phone when trying to hit the select player pull down.
He had 10 DP and served his suspension (this can be checked by comparing team total DP @18 with two current players on 4. His EL would be 10.
Is it possible for him to be added back please?
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 10:
Aberdeen - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWD)
East Fife - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Dunfermline Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Wwd)
Celtic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Montrose - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Cove Rangers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Elgin City - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wwW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 9:
Hearts - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWW)
Clydebank - MVP #3: 1 TP (wdW)
Stranraer - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
I don't think it's straightforward 25k max for each as I got 50k last time and I only had two short blog posts which I doubt were worth 25k total. But I did have two Journal posts as one was after the Sunday deadline.
The 50k maximum is fixed I believe.
Thank you David, that does clarify my own thoughts somewhat and it is always nice to have them confirmed by another source.
William,
Unless changed it used to be a maximum 25k for blogs - and number and quality counts - and the same for Journals - a good journal, not just a comment etc would usually gain the 25k.
Maximum payment in any week is 50k - good income of around 1,000k if many blogs and journals written.
Hope that helps and I am correct in my assumptions. π°π°
I was told 50k maximum per week.
So one journal, and a few blog posts a week may get 40 or 50k.
Blogs only and it may limit your chances of a high payout.
For this blog, I may have earned 10k.
If I keep typing it may pop up to 15k?
I may need add another sentence though to earn 15k.
If I keep typing it may top it up to 20k?
Although a further sentence may be required to tip the scales at 20k.
We shall wait and see.
AFG of MOT fame is the greatest.
etc
etc
....you'll get paid for that :-)
Could anybody please explain how Participation Bonus payments are worked out for BLOGS & Team Journal press realeases etc.
I have never seen any information re the subject and very little understanding either other than it get paid at some point.
I have no complaint about it at all but am simply wondering LOL.
ANN sends 1 TP to EDI for 90k
Converting oldies for cash towards apprentices:-
happening 10th August 2024
click NOTEBOOK top of web page in blue box (beside 'log out')
summary:-
Type the players you are retiring, and the total value of money you will be due.
Retire the players yourself after Saturdays matches.
Then buy your apprentice.
more detail:-
1. this will be offered on 2 occasions in season 57
happening after match 10 and again after match 27 after MSA when no apprentice needs bought.
2. only players SL12 or less can be cashed in for apprentices
3. managers will retire players themselves and recruit apprentices themselves (on the Sunday after match 10, and after mid season aging)
Managers will post on Notebook (just once ideally) the week before match 10 and again match 27 if they wish.
Detailling the players and value of retiree's with a total, and noting how many apprentices being bought.
Commish will add cash in full of the players being retired on the Saturday of match 10 and after match 27.
Unlimited cash is on offer, and any excess cash in value funds are earned by the team.
Any short fall, is paid automatically when apprentice is bought by each manager.
NEW prices from season 57:-
any player age 4+ with SL12 or less is eligable to be cashed in.
Age 4 players at 15k per SL
Age 5 players at 12k per SL
Age 6 players at 10k per SL
Age 7+ players at 8k per SL
Andrew & Steve,
You never need to worry that someone is worse off than you in the disciplinary table.
It will always be me @ Hibs.
I use "a" as a tool to bring all players up to a minimum SL 20 (and more if EL permits) so I actively encourage referees to sharpen their pencils when I play.
I accept the punishments for wanting to push some players beyond their "normal" - it is a tactic to me - makes up for not having a plethora of SL30+ players. It's about enjoying the game- only a few can win a trophy, so enjoy the matches instead.. and earn cash by blogging etc..π°π°
The following teams receive team sponsor admin through :
BRE(100) DUU(100) STE(100)
The following teams receive Team Sponsor Bid through :
ABE(-64) ALO(-1) ANN(-1) ARB(-124) BRE(-101) CLY(-122) COW(-236) DUU(-26) EF(-50) EST(-92) ELG(-203) FAL(-6) FRA(-16) HEA(-1) HIB(-104) KIL(-21) LIV(-204) MOT(-76) NAI(-1) PT(-151) PET(-1) QP(-1) RAN(-236) STJ(-96) SM(-52) STE(-122) SRA(-1)
Table showing all bids, plus winning bid (green)
Table showing winning bid, once reduced to 1k over 2nd bid
Bank balance didn’t limit any bids.
QOS & STI only bidders to miss out
Lot 10 goes begging
Earn 100k in participation bonus default sponsor: AYR, BER, COV, DEV, MON, QOS, STI
Please double check and highlight if there any errors - it's a manual process.
Will be posted shortly. Apologies for the delay.
Agree with Steve, the <200 DPs is a sure winner for me. But I wouldn't touch the 60 league goals, as I'm not going to press all the time, or the top 6 finish (tempting fate)...
I always bid on this because the way I play it would be very unlucky not to succeed. I don't even have to try.
EF sends 1050k, 3 CP, Ryan Schiavone (6/16 MA) to EDI for Trevor Brooking (3/29 MF)
Was similarly unsure, Colin. Hence why my bids were a bit higher than what I had in my account as I wasn't sure if match revenue would come in before or after the calculations. Sorry for the extra work, Fran!
I'm not very clever with time zones and this blog entry might be way off but here goes.
Sponsorship bids to be sent before deadline of 1500 today. Does that mean the sponsorship auction takes place at 1500? It does not say that in the rules but what if your bank account changes after that time, then what?
You buy or sell resources and/or players which means one team gains cash and one team loses cash. Will this impact on the sponsorship auction?
Just curious.
Earn 100k in participation bonus default sponsor:
AI, CEL, CB, DFA, EDI, FOR, GM and ROS
NAI | EDI | LIV | SRA | ARB | HIB | FAL | PET | EF | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Teams Goals >=60 | 123 | 200 | 30 | ||||||
2 | 1 Player 4 MOM | 88 | 51 | 250 | 56 | 200 | 30 | 203 | ||
3 | Top 6 | 250 | 200 | 113 | 103 | |||||
4 | 3 Clean Sheets | 250 | 56 | 11 | ||||||
5 | Unbeaten in 3 | 250 | 56 | 200 | 73 | 49 | 10 | 93 | ||
6 | Last 16 Cup | 250 | 200 | 73 | 59 | 5 | 143 | |||
7 | 3 Age 0 SL10+ | |||||||||
8 | Team DP <=200 | 1 | 31 | 56 | 39 | 93 | ||||
9 | Win >=10 Games | 88 | 11 | 29 | ||||||
10 | Team Goals >=20 | 88 | 21 | 56 | 34 | 15 |
Table showing all bids received. EDI had no cash so all bids discounted
NAI | EDI | LIV | SRA | ARB | HIB | FAL | PET | EF | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Teams Goals >=60 | 123 | 200 | |||||||
2 | 1 Player 4 MOM | 250 | 203 | |||||||
3 | Top 6 | 113 | 103 | |||||||
4 | 3 Clean Sheets | 56 | ||||||||
5 | Unbeaten in 3 | 49 | 93 | |||||||
6 | Last 16 Cup | 59 | 5 | |||||||
7 | 3 Age 0 SL10+ | |||||||||
8 | Team DP <=200 | 1 | ||||||||
9 | Win >=10 Games | |||||||||
10 | Team Goals >=20 | 15 |
Table Shows Winning Bids with next highest offer
Lot | Team | Bid | |
---|---|---|---|
1 | Team Goals >=60 | ARB | 124 |
2 | 1 Player 4 MOM | LIV | 204 |
3 | Top 6 Finish | HIB | 104 |
4 | 3 Clean Sheets | SRA | 1 |
5 | Unbeaten in 3 | EF | 50 |
6 | Last 16 Cup | FAL | 6 |
7 | 3 Age 0 SL10+ | ||
8 | Team DP <=200 | NAI | 1 |
9 | Win >=10 Games | ||
10 | Team Goals >=20 | PET | 1 |
Table shows winning bids after round down to 1 more than next highest. Please feel to double check and highlight if there any potential errors.
ANN sends 190k to HAM for Dario Zanatta (5/16 WG)
Yes, bad luck Motherwell.
Hands up all those who feel they get more than their fair share of good luck at this game....
If format is messy, I shall try save as an image tonight and re-post.
Any errors, ofcourse let me know later today.
Div 1 all bids received | bank | |||||||||||||
*121k | ||||||||||||||
STE | DEE | HEA | CLY | RAN | FRA | ALB | ALO | STJ | DUM | ABE | HAM | MOT | COW | lot |
55 | 444 | 235 | 33 | *199 | 143 | 1 | ||||||||
63 | 55 | 235 | 105 | *199 | 250 | 2 | ||||||||
55 | 150 | 100 | 35 | *124 | 3 | |||||||||
95 | 55 | 100 | 21 | 4 | ||||||||||
145 | 63 | 95 | 20 | 68 | 75 | 23 | *124 | 5 | ||||||
60 | 55 | 20 | 75 | *124 | 6 | |||||||||
55 | 7 | |||||||||||||
20 | 8 | |||||||||||||
55 | 15 | 9 | ||||||||||||
63 | 4 | 16 | 75 | 41 | 10 |
Div 1 | 07/08/2024 Summary Result | ||||
Team Sponsors August 2024 | lot | win bid | |||
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 500k | 1 | 236 | RAN |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of Match | 500k | 2 | 236 | COW |
3 | Top 6 league finish | 400k | 3 | 122 | CLY |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 400k | 4 | 96 | STJ |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 300k | 5 | 122 | STE |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | 6 | 76 | MOT |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ | 300k | 7 | 1 | HEA |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | 8 | 1 | ALO |
9 | Win >= 10 league games | 200k | 9 | 16 | FRA |
10 | Team league goals for >=20 | 200k | 10 | 64 | ABE |
Winning bid was 1k over the 2nd highest valid bid (same as player auction)
Once a lot been won, all further bids by winning team were discounted.
1 sponsor maxi,u, per team.
DEE ALB DUM & HAM miss out.
Those 4 join no-shows INV & RR with the default sponsor that adds 100k if participation is 100k+ all season.
* MOT had a lower bank total then he was bidding.
Div 1 | 07/08/2024 Summary Result | ||||
Team Sponsors August 2024 | lot | win bid | |||
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 500k | 1 | 236 | RAN |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of Match | 500k | 2 | 236 | COW |
3 | Top 6 league finish | 400k | 3 | 122 | CLY |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row | 400k | 4 | 96 | STJ |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games | 300k | 5 | 122 | STE |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | 6 | 76 | MOT |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ | 300k | 7 | 1 | HEA |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | 8 | 1 | ALO |
9 | Win >= 10 league games | 200k | 9 | 16 | FRA |
10 | Team league goals for >=20 | 200k | 10 | 64 | ABE |
Earn 100k in participation bonus default sponsor: DEE ALB DUM HAM INV RR |
100k | ||||
Only 2 teams bid on this sponsor lot in Div 1.
I query how much does each match referee have on the DP.
ABE sends 5 TP to EDI for 447k
EDI sends 470k to BRE for 5 TP
All I can say is that I'm glad someone is worse off than me.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 8:
Fraserburgh - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Annan Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Clyde FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Livingston - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wdw)
For the third straight season, MOT are into disciplinary trouble just a couple weeks into the season. Our top two players (2/30 GK and 2/30 WG) are both already on 8 DP after 3 & 4 matches played at 'n'. Last season we similarly started off accumulating a massive number of DPs in the first half of the season before easing off in the second half. Two seasons ago we got hit with a huge number of random cards from start of season to finish.
What does this mean? Pretty much nothing. Likely just an unfortunate string of bad luck. But it sure will make me happy when we start off a season with some good luck with the referees!
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Aug 4th:
ALO(50) ANN(35) CLY(20) COW(50) DEE(30) EF(50) EDI(50) FAL(20) HAM(25) HEA(15) HIB(40) LIV(20) MOT(10) PT(10) QOS(40) SM(35) SRA(10)
Team Sponsorship auction today
season 57: Send up to 5 bids via team inbox please by Wed 7th August , 15:00
to the manager who is doing your division. 10 lots are available to bid on.
BRE Fran Div 1
DUU Mark Boland Div 2
STE Ricky Div 3
cash paid out at end of season
New this season, all teams not winning an auction lot will be allocated the back-up default lot for participation bonus. This is to ensure all 48 teams have a sponsor this season.
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 500k | -- -- |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 500k | -- -- |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | -- -- |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row from match 9 |
400k |
-- -- |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games from match 9 | 300k | -- -- |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | -- -- |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | -- -- |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | -- -- |
9 | Win >= 10 league games this season | 200k | -- -- |
10 | Team league goals for >=20 | 200k | -- -- |
Earn 100k in participation bonus Div 1: A Div 2: A Div 3: A |
100k | default sponsor for all teams not winning a lot 1-10 |
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through to match 7:
EDI(200) HIB(200) KIL(200)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through superstar apprentice live draw:
ANN(100) COV(50) DEE(50) EDI(50) HIB(50) INV(50) SRA(50)
EDI sends 200k to STJ for 1 CP, 1 TP
EDI sends 110k to CLY for 1 CP
4 sets now received.
Not long to go, to get your bids in!
Brechin, Stirling, Partick, Elgin
7 bids so far.
NAI, EDI, LIV, SRA, ARB, HIB and FAL
.....from the Blues Academy that their new Superstar is called Mondo 625!
PT have upgraded MF Horn ....
Upgrade Winners:
D1 - FRA
D2 - ARB & SRA
D3 - ELG, QOS & PT
EDI sends 90k to QOS for 1 TP
Only received 1 set from BRE so far
HEA sends 250k to HIB for John Blackley (4/19 DF)
Scroll down main page to see list of sponsors on left hand side of web page.
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season 57: Send up to 5 bids via team inbox please by Wed 7th August , 15:00
to the manager who is doing your division. 10 lots are available to bid on.
BRE Fran Div 1
DUU Mark Boland Div 2
STE Ricky Div 3
cash paid out at end of season
Update:-
Div 1 team bids received thus far from: -
CLY DEE HEA STE
Very nice to have a superstar popping up at the youth academy. Helps a lot.
Thanks for running it!
.....I was there live in Teams to witness SRA claiming their first Superstar by just 1/5000th of a pixel on the photo finish. Many thanks to Daniel for running this......the envelope is in the usual place behind the vestry. Now we just have to save enough $$$ to afford a new apprentice......
GM sends 3 TP to EDI for 285k
Many thanks for the Monday morning buzz! Go PT!
Many thanks to Dan for conducting the 'SuperStar Draw'.
Once again his Wheel of Fortune/Destiny /Sorrow did the job very well.
Gratz to the winners. As for the rest of us....there is always next season hopefully.
The wheel of names spun across all three divisions & the following teams have won a SuperStar Upgrade, thanks to Bill (EDI), David (HIB), Andrew (SRA), Steve (COV), Josh (INV) & Eduard (DEE) for attending the draw, 50K will be awarded by Mark when possible :-) :
D1 - FRA
D2 - ARB & SRA
D3 - ELG, QOS & PT
Congrats to the winners ... as a reminder, the upgrade works as follows, please inbox me with your upgrade request & I will look to sort asap ... also, if you have an age 0 and have already added some TP then the extra 5 SL can be added to these players too.
Good luck all!
Dan.
Seems a decent spread of winners across each of the 3 divisional auctions.
Good to give lower division a fair crack of adding an auction players, rather than Div 1 hoovering up most of the players.
Almost certainly caused by the transfer of a player after a lineup is submitted.
"Review Orders" tab is your friend to check lineup orders are in as you planned.
It's the 4th tab along after Lineup, Team Tactics then Player Tactics. The last tab "Review Orders" will check your subs and CP orders etc are all saved correctly.
means you have to play CURRENTLY in div 1 to bid.
Probably a couple of bidders were wondering about how bad some of those div1 teams are.
Unfortunately it seems we have more bids in than there are division 1 sides. Might need to check to ensure you don't have bids entered if you are div 2 or 3.
Dan Fitzgerald invited you to a Microsoft Teams Meeting:
SuperStar Draw
04 August 2024
21:30 - 22:00 (GMT)
Meeting link: SuperStar Draw | Microsoft Teams | Meetup-Join
Sorry, gents but expect to be back later tonight than I thought so have to push back the draw start time SuperStar LIVE draw ... NOW Sunday 4th 9.30 PM BST
MEETING LINK: https://teams.live.com/meet/9465064759185?p=VL8aw5IEBaI9855O9o
... the incentive to attend the LIVE is draw will be $50 k for your team :-)
Reminder the draw will run & the age 0 player upgrade is as follows (no change from S55) ... again it slants in favour D3>D2>D1 teams based on previous manager comments:
I also surprised and delighted with the CLY session yesterday.
Had played 3 games and not even scored a goal until yesterday.
Coaching nor Training was applied after match 6 and 7 to any players if someone can look in to this for me please.
So far I am both surprised and delighted woth the QOS start.
Let's see where this will end
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 7:
Albion Rovers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Dunfermline Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Dundee United - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DWw)
Brechin City - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Www)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 6:
Saint Johnstone - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Clydebank - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Arbroath - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Hibernian - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Greenock Morton - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
East Stirlingshire - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Queen of the South - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Elgin City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Partick Thistle - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
STE sends 175k to HEA for Kye Rowles (6/16 DF)
League 2 turn tomorrow. Notebook entries open.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 1 Winners:
EF(50) SM(50)
We're not very good at this predicting lark.
With 2 draws and the favourite banker selection hitting the skids it was never going to be high scoring.
For only the 2nd time ever we had a team score no points. The same team as last time, the last time they entered. Quite an achievement that from St. Johnstone, 2 no points in a row.
We had one team whom 100% of the managers backed, who then lost. The same team had 71% of the banker selections. Well played Raith Rovers who surprised everyone with their Ibrox victory.
We only had one result from the 8 that had more than 1/2 the managers predicting correctly. The Aberdeen result going to plan.
Onto the winners, we had 2 teams who managed to sneak 5 points each. Well played East Fife & St. Mirren. 50k each.
EDI are in the market for a few TPs....Willing to offer 90k per TP.
Anyone interested..please put up a trade offer or PM EDI.
Thanks
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru July 28th:
ALB(5) ALO(35) ANN(10) ARB(15) AYR(10) CLY(15) COV(25) COW(20) DEV(5) DUM(10) DEE(15) EF(50) EST(15) EDI(50) FAL(25) FOR(5) HEA(15) HIB(45) LIV(35) MOT(50) NAI(5) PET(5) QOS(50) ROS(50) STJ(25) SM(35) STE(25) STI(5)
BRE sends Lenny Wilson (5/17 GK) to HIB for 250k, George Farm (5/12 GK)
Good to have this bonus feature back again Dan.
... should have checked if Josh had logged off before posting and now he'll be nicking my PartyB! :-S
LIVE DRAW will be held this Sunday (4th Aug) at 8 PM BST via teams
MEETING LINK: https://teams.live.com/meet/9465064759185?p=VL8aw5IEBaI9855O9o
... the incentive to attend the LIVE is draw will be $50 k for your team :-)
Reminder the draw will run & the age 0 player upgrade is as follows (no change from S55) ... again it slants in favour D3>D2>D1 teams based on previous manager comments:
EDI sends 180k to RAN for 2 TP
Mark Twain popularised this expression. He attributed it to Benjamin DIsraeli, but apparently there is no evidence to support this.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 5:
Hamilton Accies - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
TOP Quote Arnold.
I may use that in future.
......my late Father (yes, partly Scottish) used to say "a thing you don't want is dear at any price"
What's that got to do with the price of eggs I ask?
My Math teacher always told us, that there are 3 kinds of lies.
Small ones, Big ones and Statistics :-D
I totally agree with Arnold that its always good to have some reference to go by.
Statistics are only a history of what has gone before, a useful starting point but a guide only. I always think that statistics are fascinating but for the most part a waste of time LOL.
I am with you William.
Necessity, availability and as you say goodwill do influence the price as in real life football.
The average paid per SL is only an indication I use to understand what makes sense.
However, I have paid more for a player or two in the past, as I needed them.
When it comes to trading of players and/or resources there are so many variables that for the most part are only known to the managers involved, ie the state of their squads going forward and the managers 'Long-term' plans etc, in any particular trade. That make it very difficult(IMHO) to judge the majority of trades at 'face' value.
Other than all of those variables there is occasionaly an element of 'Goodwill'. Some managers will cut another manager some slack in regard to a certain deal because the reverse happened LAST season. A 'Favour' deserves a favour in return and builds trust and a rapport between managers, I'm certainly not suggesting anyone breaking any rules, i'm simply talking of a small helping hand. Of course the other side of the coin is just profit and loss and sometimes greed.
I fully accept many managers will disagree with my views and get that.
I know which i prefer.
Entries now open on the Notebook.
Round 1 results will be posted Thursday.
The 1/14 purchase is a true bargain. A Matt O'Riley type purchase!
True. 1/14 for 150k is a bargain. 300+ is normal.
Kept track of all trades/auctions over the last 3 seasons, just to get a better understanding of values.
On average we are willing to pay 25 per SL for an age 1 player
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through :
ALB(200) ANN(200) COW(100) DEV(200) EST(200) ELG(200) FAL(200) FOR(200) HAM(200) NAI(200) PET(200) QOS(200) QP(200) STI(200)
Raymond, you can't keep comparing to the 1/14 for 150k. The 350k for the 1/12 is closer to the mark.
EDI sends 90k to ANN for 1 TP
Raymond,
I am rebuilding my team so trading out older players with some cp's makes it Ok for me to do as I get a player I can train up to a a 1/24 in about 12 games which makes him good for second half of season and he will be a 2/23 for start of next season.
Yes I could sell CP's but then some coaches do not want cash but will take CP'S. Falkirk might not have sold him for a pure cash deal and Ican do what Iwant with the CP'S Ihave left.
So looks a little overpriced but was away of getting the deal done.
Seeing SM trade below with CP trading at over 100k each,
and compared to an earlier age 1 trade,
I am confused.
> DEE sends 150k to COV for Declan Glass (1/14 MF)
SM sends 3 CP, Andy Gray (4/17 FW) to FAL for Che Adams (1/14 FW)
Looks like a certain 1/16 MF was either going for 1k to the side with the top T-11 in SESL, or (as it did) going to the second best T-11 for 2k. Talk about laying good groundwork for long-term success!
When going NMR, the game mechanics seem to pick a 5-3-2 formation all at passive.
So I think a SW is listed in a NMR lineup whether a SW is in roster or not.
The program then seems to select 4 DF's based firstly on highest EL, and then seemingly SL.
Might not always be the case, but that was my experience.
Starting lineups are also displayed in position first, and then SL order.
So I always listed a WG in the traditional number 11 position (old school)
yet the program would re-order my lineup to display starting match in commentary with WG at number 9 position on lineup. This made zero impact on final results I am certain, so this just an observation.
Point being - no matter if you list a sub as a SW or DF or whatever in positions slots 12-16, I think it seemingly ignores that and looks at the players position in a roster to allocate who is being auto subbed first seemingly.
Sub positions 12-16 canot be selected as a DM or MA ofcourse, so the software criteria seem to look at what player position is on roster, and purposely ignores multipositional incase auto replaced player mechanism gets caught in a Java-loop and times out with an unprocessed error.
Finally, seemingly I use seemingly alot.
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Good suggestion, Cameron. Steve - to answer your question, the 5/16 DM was listed as the first sub. Here was the ordering on the Player Tactics page:
5/16 DM - DF
5/16 DM - MF
5/13 MF - MF
5/20 WG - WG
1/10 DF - DF
So, if the logic did check the player Pos rather than the lineup Pos and tend to prioritize DF over DM or SD, then it would land on the 1/10, so that makes sense. I like the idea of setting the 1/10 as a SW for future lineups to ensure they don't get subbed on as first option. Also putting in the suspended player for the bench anyway sounds like another good method. I'll try to take that care in the future. I appreciate the insights!
SuperStar draw is back for Season 57!!
As a reminder or for any newbies, the draw will run & the age 0 player upgrade is as follows (no change from S55) ... again it slants in favour D3>D2>D1 teams based on previous manager comments:
The draw will be made later this week but not sure when as yet but will post asap with date/time & link to the Teams meeting when poss ... AGAIN as previous, the incentive to attend the LIVE is draw will be $50 k for your team :-)
I think you're right Cameron.
I remember a game in which I had no DF sub, but did have an SL16 (or thereabouts) SD named as SW replacement. When a defender got injured (in the 2nd minute, of course!), instead of doing the obvious and bringing the SD on in DF, the machine brought on an SL8 MF. Not only did I lose 10 defensive levels, it really knackered me on the 2:1 rule as well.
STE sends 3 TP to ANN for 3 CP
My guess is multi-positional players are not recognised when game mechanics are using code to decide scenarios and solutions. (Or not recognised first anyway.)
This is a fair call from a computer coding point of view as otherwise "effective SL" would be the deciding factor and that is not the case if using MOT match example yesterday.
So software in-game solution process will have looked for first (perhaps highest SL) available DF. Appears to ignore a DM, as it would if a UT was listed as sub I am guessing?
There cannot be an infinite list of scenarios and solutions. Maybe game looks for best available DF first, and further down process it may well consider multi positional. But it found a MOT DF that met its auto conditions, and on with the match.
The position of 5 subs I think may be irrelevant also? I am sure I stuck a FW as sub 1 GK slot last season as my 2nd GK was suspended and the game brought on my FW automatically even though was listed as a GK in sub lineup.
I think normally the highest EL player comes on but of course both had EL 10.
Can somebody from Div 2 or 3 (or Div for game 4) check their orders and compare with the viewer and see if player order was swapped in the subs. It needs someone who happened to have the lower EL player listed higher to see if it was swapped. There is definitely some sorting done as I had a DF listed between two MFs in my orders buy the DF listed first in the viewer.
Andy, did you have the SL 10 DF listed first in your orders? He was listed first in the viewer so was probably chosen because of that. In both my games I had 2 MFs as subs and they were listed in the same order as I put them.
Ways to ensure the player you'd chose comes on for an injury:
1. Only pick 1 DF (which you normally do)
2. Put your suspended GK as a sub.
3. If you think you might need the second DF put him at SW - with no DF I would think the software would look for a SW before a MF.
Can anyone remind me what logic the system uses to pick injury substitutions? Today we had our top defender limp off at 6 minutes in, and instead of bringing in the SL 16 DM that was on the bench as a DF, the system brought on the SL10 defender. What do I need to do to ensure better injury subs in the future?
Typically I only have one player per position on the bench, but a suspension meant our top GK was out and instead we needed 2 DF on the bench. This happens every now and again, and I'd like to make sure to get the right guy subbed on next time
MOT sends 270k to HEA for John Robertson (6/20 FW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 4:
East Fife - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Brechin City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Wwd)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 3:
Clydebank - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Hibernian - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Annan Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Stirling - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wwD)
Also done for the Albion
Updated for Stirling
ARB sends 25k to STE for Shay Logan (6/5 DM)
BRE sends 71k to MOT for Phil Denver (7/8 FW), Kris Kristofferson (7/7 FW)
EDI sends Kieran Watson (6/6 MF), Eddie Nketiah (6/7 FW) to BRE for 75k
Updated for PET
LIV sends No Salad (3/16 FW) to QOS for 316k
14 Entries in so far.
100k at this stage of the season very attractive.
24 teams submitted lineup orders
24 still playing cards close to their chests
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The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru July 21st:
ALB(10) ALO(40) ARB(50) AYR(25) BRE(40) CLY(30) COV(10) DUM(10) DEE(50) EF(20) EDI(45) HEA(40) HIB(30) LIV(25) MOT(30) PT(25) QOS(20) ROS(20) STJ(25) SM(35) STE(20) STI(10) SRA(45)
Last 32 | Last 16 | Qtr | Semi | Final |
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ALO v EF | v |
? v ? | X v X | x vs x |
QP v STI | ||||
HAM v FRA | v |
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CB v RAN | ||||
DFA v ABE | v |
? v ? | ||
COW v EDI | ||||
STJ v FOR | v |
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DUM v MOT | ||||
RR v HEA | v |
? v ? | X v X | |
FAL v ANN | ||||
INV v CLY | v | |||
BER v DUU | ||||
HIB v COV | v | ? v ? | ||
ALB v AI | ||||
LIV v BRE | v |
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STE v DEE |
The following teams receive Cup Draw Participation through :
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Click on "Notebook" to enter your retiree's.
No rush, but I am about to wipe this from front page to make room for the Cecil cup draw last 32.
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Season 57: Converting oldies for cash towards apprentices:-
happening 10th August 2024 - for cash towards apprentice
happening 16th September 2024 - for cash ONLY
New player value prices (see below)
1. this will be offered on 2 occasions in season 57
happening after match 10 and again after match 27 after MSA when no apprentice needs bought.
2. only players SL12 or less can be cashed in for apprentices
3. managers will retire players themselves and recruit apprentices themselves (on the Sunday after match 10, and after mid season aging)
Managers will post on Notebook (just once ideally) the week before match 10 and again match 27 if they wish.
Detailling the players and value of retiree's with a total, and noting how many apprentices being bought.
Commish will add cash in full of the players being retired on the Saturday of match 10 and after match 27.
Unlimited cash is on offer, and any excess cash in value funds are earned by the team.
Any short fall, is paid automatically when apprentice is bought by each manager.
Again this season: after match 27 there is no requirement to buy an apprentice as just a straight cash-in.
Managers may wish to buy an apprentice to help play 360 minutes in 5 sesl cup group matches.
NEW prices from season 57:-
any player age 4+ with SL12 or less is eligable to be cashed in.
Age 4 players at 15k per SL
Age 5 players at 12k per SL
Age 6 players at 10k per SL
Age 7+ players at 8k per SL
HEA sends 190k to BER for Tony Grizzle (5/10 MF), George Fletcher (5/9 MF)
If we go Loss and then Win:
0.5 * 5/6 + 0 = 0.4167
(0.4167 * 5/6) + 1/6 = 0.5139
From the wiki:
A club's morale is updated every match. The formula is: New morale = (5/6) * old morale + (0 if loss, 1/12 if draw, 1/6 if win)
So, if we start at 0.5 and have a win and then a loss, we would go
0.5 * 5/6 + 1/6 = 0.5833
0.5833 * 5/6 + 0 = 0.4861
I suspect the most recent result would have a larger impact on morale than previous results? As would be true in real life? Football fans have short memories!
Same here....EDI won 2-0 at home and lost 1-0 in the away leg meaning the aggregate result was 2-1 in favour of EDI and yet our morale dropped to 0.49...... and yet my opponents morale is now 0.51
Seems strange ?
Our first two results were a 5-1 win and a 2-1 defeat, which left us feeling pretty good. But our morale is now less than 0.5. How does that work?
EDI sends 340k to QOS for 4 TP
Did the maths in my head but, even if it's not 100% accurate, it's a great bit of trading.
Fresh and fully updated!
NAI about and bio updated.
It could be away goals
Sorry, no, William's right. Away goals decide it...penalties if not...
No, it is definitely away goals (just saw the rules).
PET sends 2 CP, Alabama (3/26 DF) to ARB for 100k, Gareth Southgate (1/14 DF), Pat McClements (4/20 DF), Ryan Dow (6/16 FW)
I believe it is on AWAY goals.
Who goes through if it is tied after 2 games - A win 1-0 and a 2-1 loss but 2-2 overall?
Reminder that auction tonight is for Div 3 teams only.
Auction 2 is for Div2 teams only: 28-Jul Auction 3 is for Div1 teams only: 04-Aug
You are, of course, correct. And I even state in my Bio/About that we started 14th in T17.
Done
I have some scribbles of some Top 17's for reference as I'm battling with Lothian area local rivals HIB on similar levels.
ALO were 14th in Div 1 when all pre season orders were in. 19.0.
RR were on 19.1, and INV below at 15th on 18.4. ALB 16th.
EDI were a 16.5 top 17.
I dont know how Div 3 started in comparison but EDI re-building initiative means only way is up!
Safe to say that EDI started the season ranked 16th for T17 in Division 2 and 48th in SESL overall.
It would seem that the manager has some serious work to do this(and next) season.
There!
Looking forward to another great SESL season!!!
Cheers!
Well spotted, Eduard.
Stirling is my 16th best SL so is bound to get the odd game anyway whether I played 59% stall or not, and he's a better SW than Morrison (at least until the latter gets his first TP).
Now I'm not sure if it's a tactical error as we were 15th in T17 before the trade and I don't know when Mark takes the stats for over-achievers. Last season I had us tied with Raith (I took the stats for my prediction) but Mark had us a place higher.
With the trade we are currently in 13th place - good for the team to improve T17 but will it cost us 400k?
Now that's something I did NOT see coming.
However, any bets on how many matches their new SW 7/9 will actually play SW? I take the zero.
NOT counting all-out passive stalls, of course.
ALO sends 80k to HAM for Fergus Owens (5/7 DF), Ben Stirling (7/9 SW), Santiago Munoz (6/7 FW)
So preview and bio updated.
HIB sends 90k to STE for 1 TP
I'm sure this was discussed a couple of seasons ago but my memory fails me at that point and i can't recall Marks explaination. Hopefully he will clear it up again lol.
Here we go again!
Round 1 this coming Saturday, notebook entries are open.
Schedule below.
Round | Competition | Match | Date |
1 | Division 1 | 3 | 27 July 2024 |
2 | Division 2 | 6 | 03 August 2024 |
3 | Division 3 | 12 | 17 August 2024 |
4 | Division 1 | 15 | 24 August 2024 |
5 | Division 2 | 19 | 31 August 2024 |
6 | Division 3 | 33 | 28 September 2024 |
7 | SESL Cup | 40 | 16 October 2024 |
8 | Division 1 | 44 | 26 October 2024 |
9 | Division 2 | 47 | 02 November 2024 |
10 | Division 3 | 50 | 09 November 2024 |
Falkirk Bio now sorted.
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through :
ALO(200) ARB(200) AYR(200) CB(200) COW(100) DEE(200) EF(200) EDI(200) FRA(200) HEA(200) HIB(200) LIV(200) MOT(200) PT(200) ROS(200) STJ(200) SM(200) STE(200) SRA(200)
Personally I don't see a problem with allowing Bosman keepers.
As Dave says, it could lead to a glut of decent keepers, but I agree with him that teams don't really need two decent keepers, one is enough, with the resources saved being better spent elsewhere.
And yes, lower division teams could take a Bosman keeper and sell them on, but supply and demand would mean that if too many teams did that, the price would tend to drop to a sensible level. And in any case, if selling on helps to give a few Div 3 teams a boost to help them on the up, that's a positive thing I think.
GK never been an option as a Bosman player position for as long as I remember. A glut of a dozen 1/16, dozen 1/15, dozen 1/14 GKs etc might make every team have two big GKs.
I still believe one big SL GK is all you need, and your 2nd choice GK is going to be sat on subs bench 75% of time? Maybe more if younl play a passive GK.
non Bosman GK maybe forces teams to have to nurture their own GK's.
Div 3 teams could TP a GK most seasons to sell on to Div 1 teams mid season for vast profit, and surprised more lower teams don't do this.
And we are off!!!!
Thanks Mark for the quick turnaround - got something to look at come 4pm today now.
PS Need to ask probably a silly question but why can't a Bosman be a goalkeeper?
Good luck to all 32 managers kicking off today - the elite of you (1st division) will need to hang on till Saturday but that's only 5 days away.. ππ
As a rebuilding team, The pre-season aim for EDI was to try and bring in a couple of young Multi-positional players to help cover weak areas in the squad.
From my point of view....Job done and i'm satisfied with that.
Whether i over/under payed for those players is neither here nor there tbh as i got what i wanted and the managers i traded with also seemed happy enough.
I can't speak for other managers but i don't compare MY trades to those of other managers as (i repeat) i got what i wanted, and i assume other managers did the same with their trades.
All forms of trading are volatile....what looks expensive one day may turn out to be a bargain the next day OR vice verse. In my eyes at least, thats part of the reason that makes it fun.
No surprise to me that different managers would value their bosmans differently. Even to the tune of hundreds of ks. A bit more surprising that the cheaper player came second - seeing a similar trade come through is often a good negotiating point for a selling manager. But even that doesn't always work - sometimes a second trade is sitting offered for a while after the first one comes through. Not always caught in time to renegotiate. And also not always worth the effort for all managers, I'd imagine.
I am certainly jealous of some of these deals coming through, though! Also including the 3/24 DF that ALB were able to find for sale for a reasonable price. Something I need to work on is sorting out how to find those top-tier t-11 players that aren't advertised for sale...
Agree it difficult to compare ancient history values. But often that is main reference.
DEE have added two SL to his original age 1 Bosman, and also made 170k cash profit.
Both deals combined have maybe a 350k profit - if the 2 SL (TP) was worth 90k each (when traded last season)
Both age 1 deals were made in the last 4 days.
Not ancient history.
And the same team has benefited both times.
350k value is not "a minor premium".
Recent EDI trades seem unfortunate when compared to DEE.
Well done to DEE. Maybe lesson to other 47 managers could trade harder.
First off - you can't just trade cash - I just tried :-)
Although I'd probably value a 1/10 MA as more than 100k he would only ever play MF (except in a 50% passive stall when he might play FW). I wouldn't buy him and use TP on him. May as well spend a bit more for an apprentice who will start next season as 1/17 MF.
However a 1/14 MA has more potential and could be a good age 2/3 MA. So 500k is a decent price.
I paid 1000k for a 1/16 DM last season - a bit high but I had to make a high offer to get him and he was crucial to my team.
I've previously made my points on pricing mechanisms and deals, the short version:
Protection is useful for keeping the system intact (e.g. avoiding exploits etc.).
But otherwise I want the freedom to play however I and my co-players want - including occasionally suboptimal decisions.
Now, we have 3 parties involved in any deal: the 2 involved and the ecosystem around (i.e. everyone else).
Let's look at both deals:
1. DEE sends Alan Wright (1/12 MF) to SM for 320k
The price was above my evaluation and below Matthew's evaluation, so ok.
Party 3 is only relevant, if there is some manipulation and / or rookie exploit.
We've dealt with this, and it is cleared.
The "relevant comparison price" I mentioned has only been a reply to a statement that the "correct" price would me much lower.
2. DEE sends 150k to COV for Declan Glass (1/14 MF)
The price was below my evaluation and above Steve's evaluation (he even offered it for 150k on the transfer market), so ok.
My evaluation is clearly below 500 - and Steve has many and better age 1's, so the 1/14 is nearly useless for him.
Party 3 is only relevant, if there is some manipulation and / or rookie exploit.
If anything is suspicious about this transfer, please ...
I did find it somewhat ironic that I ended up with an slightly upgraded Bosman after all.
This wasn't quite the plan from the start, but life happens.
However, I'm quite open to arguments, which show me what might be wrong about deal #2.
And no, the fact that some other people have once (previously or in ancient history) paid other sums is not a convincing argument per se.
Jul 17 24 DEE sends Alan Wright (1/12 MF) to SM for 320k
DEE: blogs "(different) teams have different player evaluations"
DEE: says "A relevant comparison price (of a 1/12) would be ~250 as top 5 average."
Jul 17 24 EDI sends 500k to PT for Jamie Taggart (1/14 MA)
Jul 18 24 EF sends Gordon Conan (1/10 MA) to SM for 100k
Then...
Jul 21 24 DEE sends 150k to COV for Declan Glass (1/14 MF)
Curious what the same team DEE now say is relevant comprarison price of a 1/14?
If treble valuations are not raising eyebrows, what if
3CP traded for 9TP?
or 3CP for 9CP? Sounds ridiculous.
What prescendance is being sent with these 1/12 and 1/14 trades?
What wants trade 150k for 450k?
What's a few K in this game?
STE sends 3 CP to ANN for 3 TP
can go a long way. After a couple of good trades with Leo and Deveronvale last season he came to my rescue with a trade later on.
150k is a bit low for a 1/14 but you're obviously happy with the trade, Steve. And what's a few k in this game.
I did smile when I saw the trade.
He was never going anywhere with us, and DEE had some goodwill left over from last year's transfer of Frank Barrett.
July 21, 2024
July 17, 2024
COV sends 475k to STE for 5 TP
DEE sends 150k to COV for Declan Glass (1/14 MF)
I've always tried to use 'real' player names for each of my teams (inc Elana Torun in SFLSL). Like the new signing blog inc the faces.
ARB sends Distinctly Minty (2/23 WG) to COV for 6 CP, Gyles Marrett (4/19 SW)
ARB sends 80k to STE for Aaron Mooy (5/9 MF)
ARB sends 80k to STE for Tuguy (5/9 SD)
Nice to see EF use proper player names
and adding player profile photos is a nice touch too.
STE sends 70k, 1 TP, Hungary (3/25 MF) to QOS for Angels share (3/26 MA)
We are pleased to announce two new arrivals at East Fife. Seb Ross (left) joins us on a part exchange deal with Forfar. Last year's captain (Alexis Mac Allister) leaves us, and the experienced Ross joins us to strengthen our forward line.
We also welcome Jack Healey (right), a product of our youth academy now looking forward to first team football. Jack is a speedy winger who we will hope to see firing in some telling crosses, especially in the second half of the season
ALB sends 100k, 8 TP to PT for Alan Archibald (3/24 DF)
MON sends 8 CP to STE for 10 TP
EF sends 500k, Alexis Mac Allister (6/16 MF) to FOR for Seb Ross (4/25 FW)
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Gareth Southgate -> Sam Allardyce
Bones -> Katie Price
Lewis -> Prince Andrew
Dow -> Pixie Two Dolls Kissie
Cameron -> Fat Les
Season 57 starts this Monday 22nd July with Cecil Cup 1st round(1st leg) games.
Not long now.
Hibernian
GK JoJo Wollacott to be renamed Josef Bursik
DF Adams to be renamed Rocky Bushiri
MF Norrie Stewart to be renamed Dylanb Vente
MF Tommy Preston to be renamed Jordan Orbita
DF Freddy Milloy to be renamed Paul Hanlon
Nice to see Justin Rose doing so well today.
+7 Rory McIlroy; & +8 Tiger Woods had days to forget though.
Where is Ian Poulter? He seems to have disappeared since selling his soul to LIV golf.
Well said Matt.
And good on you adding some humor to your replies.
Clever cunning plan to cash-in some oldies for apprentices.
I'll watch your season and possible promotion push. Bravo.
We need to get some players in as we are looking to cash in on several of our older players to buy an apprentice.We will sell 5 players which will only leave us with 18 player with the two we have brought. At least with age 1 players they will not lose levels at mid season and there are not that many cheap players around at the moment.
we will have to see how it goes.
At least it has given some players something to take the mind of England losing in the final.
Just the usual insightful hilarities...
HIB sends 9 CP to PT for 10 TP
PT sends 9 CP to HIB for 10 TP
Just the usual insightful hilarities...
Did I miss anything not logging in for 24 hours?
A 1/10 multipositional would be similar value to a 1/12 normal position player.
Logically one cannot be more than treble the value of other.
Everyone seems happy with trades.
Be happy.
EF sends Gordon Conan (1/10 MA) to SM for 100k
Good debate, and well managed by the committee. Positive outcome for all. Roll on the start of the season
I am satisfied with explanations from both SM & DEE and trade can stand as it is.
Per the rules (noted below) - had the trade been other way then a newbie manager would be protected from over-paying.
Matthew is an established manager, and has said he is happy with trade, so I am drawing a line under this now.
Focus can be on upcoming matches now.
for info:-
SESL Rules - seslwiki (vanillaconsulting.biz)
John you have to much time on your hands your 132K price just does not stack up you are looking at players brought at auction and there is always the chance of getting a bargin player. I can sit and make statics say what ever you want them to.
I have loads of TPs to spend and want to get several players in to spend them on.
Saying that I only play this game and many other because I enjoy them and what I do should be down to me if other think it is unfair then reverse it.
If the deal is reversed results then I will just give up and stop playing in SESL and SFLSL as other have a say in what you do we all have to get all deals agreed so someone is not upset by them. If I have missed a rule that say I have done anything wrong then please point it out to me.
ROS sends 225k to STJ for Ryan McGowan (6/19 DF)
Some notes on prices:
(Way too) Many years ago, I've once read an article about the pricing mechanisms in German United called 'Superstars in div 5'.
It made a valid point that top tier teams have different player evaluations than lower tier.
Given the MSWL mechanisms, this holds even better, since it makes a big difference if your bottom T11 player is SL 25 or 13.
So, of course, the evaluations of HEA or ALO are different from SM's or others.
I don't really see this as a problem, at all.
Too much "looking after" is even pointless, anyway.
As a "newbie" last season I've seen a couple of offers, that I did consider rip off attempts. I did just say no.
When I sold my rookie GK to COV for what was considered too few cash (I agree) - I did not want the trade to be renegotiated.
I knew the deal, and it did work for me. A potentially slightly better deal was more risky and not worth the effort, just as for Matthew apparently.
I don't think any of us is still in kindergarten any more.
Trade controls are useful for newbies and avoiding farm team tactics, but that's all.
STE sends 110k, 4 TP, John Terry (5/17 DF), Greg Taylor (5/12 DF) to DEV for Jorrel Hato (4/21 DF), Daley Blind (4/16 DF)
SM paid twice what he could have for that 1/12. And even 160k would be too much for me.
SM have bought unwanted apprentices last few seasons that I remember - but that strategy has not worked.
2 or 3 apprentice age 0's may be worth considering for SM.
Also, EDI trade earlier today seemed imbalanced also with William due more. But if both experienced managers happy then all good.
Matt at SM might want to have his say before any Trade Committee jump in feet first.
Matt has over 1000 games in SESL alone, so hardly a newbie that needs looking after.
The values John printed are Auction prices rather than trade prices. Hence those 1k values.
SM have 50 TP and now only two age 1 players so he will probably get 10 TP and be 3rd MF.
He added 3 SL to T17 and, with CP/TP prices being what they are, not too much over-priced (I think 320k is a bit high but not excessively).
One note: Alan Wright doesn't have a 10 match trade ban on him. I wondered if it was because he's a Bosman that hasn't played but Sam Gormley at PET and Fraser Burns at EDI both also traded Bosmans do have a 10 match trade bans.
Dear John,
Spectacular title, BTW.
Your "average" price 132 is a pointless number, since this includes lucky minimum and / or end of season buys.
It was a start of season and position of choice buy - so it is of course priced near the top.
A relevant comparison number would be ~250 as top 5 average.
So we're seriously discussing a minor premium here - with the (relative) newbie on the receiving end!?
EDI sends 500k to PT for Jamie Taggart (1/14 MA)
CLY SW Ross Lyon = Jack Hendry DF Harry Potter = Scott McKenna MF Nicolo Barella = Stuart Armstrong MF Hakan Calhanoglu = Billy Gilmour WG Henrikh Mkhitaryan = Neil McCann
Alan Wright (1/12 MF) has just transferred from DEE to SM for 2 and a half times the average of a typical 1/12.
Looking at history on player values (in recent seasons maybe, and not including multi positional)
the average value of a 1/12 is 132k.
Plenty unwanted Bosmans at start of each season,
so no logical reason to pay a record fee of 320k for a distinctly average player that wont be the missing link to help SM get promoted.
season | paid | |||
32 | MF | 1 | 12 | 301 |
34 | DF | 1 | 12 | 301 |
48 | MF | 1 | 12 | 220 |
44 | MF | 1 | 12 | 201 |
52 | MF | 1 | 12 | 189 |
39 | DF | 1 | 12 | 182 |
38 | MF | 1 | 12 | 151 |
32 | FW | 1 | 12 | 127 |
46 | MF | 1 | 12 | 124 |
46 | FW | 1 | 12 | 124 |
44 | FW | 1 | 12 | 112 |
31 | FW | 1 | 12 | 112 |
38 | DF | 1 | 12 | 102 |
46 | DF | 1 | 12 | 101 |
42 | FW | 1 | 12 | 101 |
39 | FW | 1 | 12 | 31 |
38 | FW | 1 | 12 | 29 |
41 | GK | 1 | 12 | 1 |
37 | FW | 1 | 12 | 1 |
2510 | ||||
average 132k |
Rennie Mackintosh - Cammie Devlin
Hector Gorgie - Barrie McKay
Lawrence Shankland > Liam Boyce
Hertz Davina - Lawrence Shankland
DEE sends Alan Wright (1/12 MF) to SM for 320k
Managers can choose to change up to 5 player names at start of the season.
These must be posted on the blog for transparancy before your team kick a ball this season (Monday, or a week on Saturday for D1).
Two managers of strong teams have expressed an interest in swapping clubs, so if this interests any current manager then inbox STJ or post a blog.
July 2024 saw Lee J Elkins appointed manager of CB.
ex-ODFL Olmec manager of Hertha Berlin
EDI sends Sam Gormley (1/14 DF) to PET for 100k, Fraser Burns (1/10 DM)
I wholeheartedly agree with Andrew's prediction that ARB being the slick well oiled Litchies may stoop to Gareth Southgate (DF 1/14) levels to become boring clueless bunch of hapless individuals.
Watch this space.
And I may sub Southgate off at Time => 89 just so he knows how frustrating that can be :-)
Following a heart-to-heart with the SRA Chairman, McCumiskey will stay (for a couple more matches anyway) in charge at Stair Park. The deciding factor was when the Chairman saw the quality and depth of the ARB superstar squad, he decided that leaving Southgate there was the best strategy. After all, it will not take Southgate long to convert the slick well oiled Litchies into a mediocre, boring clueless bunch of hapless individuals will it......
ARB
Recent Transactions
July 10, 2024
north......I wondered who the SRA Chairman was interviewing this afternoon.........surely he will never replace me?!?!
Had Klopp been manager in Euro Final I think he would have made changes far quicker than Southgate tended to dither.
Southgate over achieved, without delivering a trophy, but can't say was "unlucky" at Euro's as one good 45 minutes doesn't at a tournament does't make a team cup contenders.
New stand looks good.
Unusual to have standing at front, and seating above.
Greenock Morton I noticed had similar (without the fancy corporate boxes on show at Somerset Park!)
For years and years Ayr's old chairman was Bill Barr and he built so many new stadiums and stands around the UK we were wondering when Somerset would be re-developed. He did add an extension called the Family Stand on to the main stand. Apart form maintenance around the stadium that was it. A new chairman came in after Bill, The Cameron family. Without doubt their cash kept the club from going to the wolves. Ayr don't operate an overdraft so it was soend what your earned and also with the help of the Cameron's bank balance.
If only a few other clubs had stayed within their means to cheat in their own ways they may not have went to wall owing thousands and millions to companies and staff.
Our new chairman David SMith has only been in a few years and with the new Supporters Club built just outside Somerset this brings in much needed revenue that previous owners had promised via a supporters club for years but didn't materilise. So he did that within his 1st year, now as he goes into his 3rd year he has just completed the new North Stand at Somerset. No more standing out in the rain. The great thging is that along with the added hospitality revenue and obvious additional seating there is still standing right aong the front for those who prefer to stand. Not everyone enjoys sitting in a shoe box stadium.
It is great to see my club well managed and now at last with a modern look to part of the ground but keeping the old parts of the ground.
A nice video below showing the new stand with a Seagull attacking the drone at 49 seconds :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH7EXyHcZjs
Also Drone footage when Ayr played Killie last week and beat Killie 3-2 last week :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHGQlNOOUM4
Gone! Not surprised. I wonder who will be next up. English man? Foreigner?
Don't forget the Lionesses play tomorrow night.
Final qualifying game for the World Cup next year.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Jul 14th:
ALO(50) ARB(20) CLY(10) DEV(30) DUM(10) DEE(10) EF(35) EDI(40) FRA(10) HIB(45) LIV(45) MOT(45) STJ(20) SRA(20)
Truly no dispute, Andrew. I believe I saw about 52 comments last season about how Stranraer are the greatest, which is about 52 more times than I saw any other club mentioned in that conversation...
....not sure at Euro level who was better. However, at Club level there is no dispute. SRA are clearly the best team and the 2nd best team are SRA reserves!
Considering the way England played in the earlier games, they did well to reach the final.
Allowing for the fact that England had/have one of the most talented squads in world football currently, they were disappointing to say the least at least in their approach.
As for the final....The best team won without a doubt.
What a couple decades from Spain here. 3 Euros and a world cup across two generations of players. Throw in a world cup for the women and nations league for both the men and the women...wow.
Feel a bit for the English side, but this one wasn't really the heartbreak of 2021 for my money. The kind draw, narrow results...and I've just heard that they had a lower total xG across their 7 matches than Croatia did in their 3. Second place seems a good achievement for how iffy the on-field product seemed to be.
A valiant effort, but Spain are deserved winners I feel having won 7 out of 7.
What a huge day for Spanish sport. The Euros and wimbledon.
Short of cash for auctions? Nothing on TV to watch?
Click on "Update About" and "Update Bio" on your team page and earn the easiest 200k ever.
I will be looking for the usual "About" update which can be about your sesl team.
Bio updates tend to be about your job, family, real life teams, and whatever you wish.
Upto 100k for each.
You need add season 57 update, and/or add a date. Type something recent so i know its fresh.
No need to blog when you do update, as I will check each team in turn anyway.
Sunday 21st July I will pay the initial sums.
Sunday 28th July will be the 2nd payout.
You not got a jigsaw to finish!?
As usual, nothing worth watching, will be reading War and Peace....
Getting better as the tourney goes on Harry.
Harry Kane to win his first trophy in professional football surely.
Agree with Leon:
England overall has the better players, but Spain better TEAM
2--1 prediction
I really think the teams are very evenly matched. A serious opportunity for somebody to step up.
The team that keeps its discipline the best......Wins.
I kinda tried the same thing, provoke a tiny bit hoping to get some banter going, but it seems people playing SOS are different then the people on Twitter or those commenting on articles on news sites π€£
Glad they are though. I avoid reading the comments on these news sites. Bad for my mental health!
Anyhow,.... Tonight. For the sake of football let's hope Williams and Yamal shine the brightest of this tournament so far. England overall has the better players, but Spain just plays better. πͺπΈπ¬π§
For the Scottish Ladies team, just finishing their away match in Slovakia.
Unlike the men players, they actually go forward and create chances. Play is fast (not necessarily brilliant) but certainly exciting and not boring. And we have 2 goals WE have scored, not O.G.s.
And we had a 30 minute delay when the heavens opened up and the referee took the players off. And NO VAR decisions - actually no VAR. π«€π«€
Let's be having you.
Pre-season orders baby π
The German women's team OTOH (8 times Euro champions) has just shown an impressive 0-3 performance in Iceland.
So still much worse than the men; still not as painful, though.
I looked at Aberdeen, copy/pasting their cup stats from their team history page from season 13, added 44 times 30 for league games and 9 play-off games (assuming it's always been 11th and 12th playing 5th and 6th). I noticed seasons 38 and 39 gave 0 matched for the Cecil Cup so looked in match tab on those season's history pages to see they played just two games. I was still 3 out but then noticed season 43 looked odd with some teams having 0 games and some with an odd number (Aberdeen with 1) so three games haven't been copied to the history page. Also in season 43 teams are shown playing just 4 games when they played 5.
So using season 13 as a start point I'm only 1 out between Aberdden's matched and Ross's stats.
...Dave's run with Hearts. Two straight promotions then 14 straight seasons in the top flight. And several titles in that stretch to boot. A few very impressive manager runs out there in SESL
Commish Mark took over STJ in season 37 when they were in Div 2 and got them promoted. Since then they've only been in Div 2 once, relegated by 1 goal difference and came straight back up as Div 2 champions. Under Mark they have three Div 1 titles, two 2nd and six 3rd.
Another Mark took over DUU in season 17 and kept them in Div 1 until season 39 where they were relegated via the playoffs, came back up immediatey for 2 seasons but have struggled since. Under Mark they won 8 Div 1 titles, twice in runs of 4 with just one season out the top 4, where they finished 7th, in the 7 seasons between those runs of 4.
That's remarkable top tier attendance by DUM.
Under Colin they NEVER been in Div 3 after season 20, and DUM been in Div 1 every season except just 10 in Div 2 between season 21 and 56. Incredible.
Can any manager beat that!?
Dumbarton have played 1857 matches - according to their front page. I think I took over towards the end of season 17 and I wiped the team at the start of season 18 and started with an expansion squad. I have now played 1802 matches. I would suggest the records do not include my time at Thistle from seasons 12 to 15.
Okay, the world knows England got a penalty that never was, their section and route seems to have been hand picked, and their performances have been at times defensive and boring, but lads, they have progressed through to the Final. But I'll be there in front of the TV watching the Final on Sunday.
But will confess if England score first (if at all) it gets changed over right away. I like teams to win competitions actually trying to play football and score goals (real ones). And I am Scottish. Be honest, how many English supporters actually care about our results???π€π€
(Guaranteed to get some reaction, which will add cash to a few managers totals.) ππππ
Last season while SRA struggled we trialled VAR. In the middle of mtach the cameras picked up an object thrown onto the pitch at Stair Park. On closer inspection in turned out to be a £1 coin. The Ref was unsure if it was a takeover bid......
Since when has it been OK to try and win the ball studs first?
I laughed out loud.
Never a penalty - and some think the sesl refs are bad.
The future isn't orange.
Surely not...
Repeats of Dad's Army or Benny Hill is acceptable - but Wish You Were Here? - are you joking?
I only hope it's a brighter game than the turgid stuff we've seen in a lot of games so far.
tbh the most attractive teams imho have been Spain and Türkiye (Turkey in old money).
The final will be shown on BBC throughout the UK on Sunday evening with full coverage from 7pm. This is in all regions apart from Scotland where old repeats fo 'Wish you were here' will be broadcast instead.....
Congratulations to Marc for his 900 wins - massive achievement. π₯π₯
(on a lesser note I looked and noticed I had just touched 500 - that'll have to do for me - at my age even 600 could be problematical..πππ«€π«€)
I'm not certain when the stats started but I've a feeling it's season 13 or not long before.
I remember thinking that my own numbers were too high when SESL moved to the Olmec server and that the whole of season 13 (my first) were attributed to me when I joined around MSA.
But not long before that based on the number of games I have and Ross Hayworth has. I missed 10 seasons which is a minimum of 370 games but Ross only has about 280 more.
Perhaps someone can go through Aberdeen's history and work out when the stats started.
One fun fact that I found while digging around the post-season stats...with the two wins on the final weekend of the season, Mark Boland became the first SESL manager to hit 900 wins (at least by the system's count. I don't know if additional wins from early seasons are missing or not). Shouldn't be too long until the big 1000 is reached! Congrats on the achievement, Mark
I think England will win tonight, but it is a joy watching the Netherland fans bounce back and forth across the pavement on their march towards the stadium.
Hoping for a 5 goal thriller of a match this evening at the Euro's.
Split vote already.
Early days, but fascinating the criteria different managers place on picking their top boss.
PRE SEASON PROCESS
open until 20th July 2024, 12:00 hrs
Click on "Transactions" and then button "pre season"
Select your team captain age 5+ (drop down list)
CP purchase (drop down list)
Free bosman player: select position (drop down box),
type in a name,
select a nationality
Click button "Submit preseason"
No trades until Pre season orders are done for all teams
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Jul 7th:
ALB(20) ALO(20) DEV(10) DEE(15) EF(35) EDI(50) FOR(10) FRA(15) HEA(20) HIB(15) LIV(10) MOT(45) PT(20) PET(25) QOS(15) RAN(10) ROS(10) STJ(40) STE(35) SRA(10)
1. It is a key part of my financial strategy, and I will modify tactics if needed to achieve (e.g. if I need 3 cleans in a row I will perhaps stall for the 3rd clean)
2. I'm a bit biased because I never win these, but yes I think they are too high. It's too often one team is winning multiple, as the same strategy pays off for multiple awards (have a big GK, only train up attack, stall out 1/3 of your matches, run up the score in the other 2/3, get goals for your big FW and rack up saves for your GK)
3. No preference here. Fine with more cash if you feel it is needed to balance lowering cash elsewhere
2nd one completely off, I hope.
We Dutchies are usually very critical about our national team, and while that has not changed at all, this tournament we are much more critical about the French and the English.
I'm super happy Spain managed to seal the deal in the first 90 mins, as the french simply did not deserve anything more then they got. And.... although I realise I'm not gonna make friends by saying this, same goes for England. For the sake of the tournament and the future of football, let's pray the Dutch slaughter the 11 of that incompetent Southgate with his boring tactics that are not even tactics, but the lack of it.
As Nigel Garage recently shouted:
Boring!
Boring!
First one not so good...
Spain v. France > Draw > Extra time > Penalties = Spain WIN.
England v. Holland > Draw > Extra time > Penalties = England WIN.
But what do i know ? LOL.
"will history books record how negative and boring England have been?"
I will remember. Especially as I won't be watching any more of their patheric efforts.
England are a hard watch at Euros .
As were France who were dull.
While Portugal thought playing pensioner Ronaldo for 120 minutes was clever game management π
When England won in 1966 they may have been awful in previous games as all the footage you see is from the final! So if England somehow on Wednesday fluke their way to the Final will history books record how negative and boring England have been?
Speaking as an England fan....
I have found that they are so negative and yet they still manage to find a way to win. It is certainly not the most entertaining viewing but they still find a way to win.
Regardless of who you support, it is difficult to deny that England probably(?) have one of the youngest and most talented squads in the entire tournement and yet they continue to seemingly prefer to pass backwards rather than forwards, so much individual flair available and yey they can barely register more thaan a couple of shots on target...until they are behind....so frustrating.
But you can't argue with the results. Semi-final of the European Championships. Maybe is a case of...Better to be lucky than good ?
Bit better for 90 mins. Brave penalties.
Good luck Netherlands next up.
1 decent idea, but 400 & 500 payouts seem high
2 awards bit high - maybe have a few more awards but lower overall values
3 oldies cash-in needs be a bit higher to make it worthwhile
clever Div 3 managers ought mop up oldie trades from Div 1 who rarely buy an 400k 0/5 apprentice
1. Do you pay much attention during the season to achieving your team sponsorship,
or is it largely forgotten and becomes a surprise end of season payout?
Answer) I am aware what I need to achieve but still miss it about half the time.
2. Are end of season awards too generous?
Is there an appetite so half the money of awards?
Answer)Think they are about right
3. Cash-in oldies - should the amount for old players be raised slightly?
Answer)Indifferent. Happy as they are/ happy with a raise.
Can Ben Armour and Mark Durnan both be downgraded to MF please.
My 1/10 Bosman is available for transfer, can be multi-position, please inbox me if interested
1. Yes
2. £ good but worst shooter is poor IMO
3. agree
Done Updates done. Looking forward to the new season
1. Yes
2. £ good but worst shooter is poor IMO
3. agree
PRE SEASON PROCESS
open until 20th July 2024, 12:00 hrs
Click on "Transactions" and then button "pre season"
Select your team captain age 5+ (drop down list)
CP purchase (drop down list)
Free bosman player: select position (drop down box),
type in a name,
select a nationality
Click button "Submit preseason"
No trades until Pre season orders are done for all teams
1 > Sometimes forget about sponsorship
2 > awards seem too high
3 > oldies age 5, 6 & 7 players might need a wee boost
(DEE have just retired 30 skill level of players rather than cash in)
1. I always check up on how my sponsorship is going - except this season when I failed to win one and got the default sponsorship (which is good for the remaining clubs in the division.
2. Yes, most post season awards teams aren't playing for but they arrive. Half them sounds right and split amounts on tie breaks.
3. Happy to agree with Mark's proposals/suggestions for retiring players - should mean more retrials and therefore more apprentices coming in. Seasoning/training apprentices could lower some high SL games a bit.
Yes,
no I've played for the golden gloves last 2 seasons and usually aren't too far away on golden boot.
yes
1. Do you pay much attention during the season to achieving your team sponsorship, or is it largely forgotten and becomes a surprise end of season payout?
No. If I win its a bonus. Usually start checking towards the end of the season as a I scrambleto make the required amount for pre-season.
2. Are end of season awards too generous? Is there an appetite so half the money of awards?
No, not too generous.
3. Cash-in oldies - should the amount for old players be raised slightly?
No. Values are spot on and a good addition to the game
1. I take some notice, but it doesn't really influence my team selection
2. No strong feelings on the amounts but I think the Robin Hood rule should not be applied between the last match of the season and the first match of the next season, so that teams do not lose the benefit of the awards
3. Amounts are so small that it makes no difference
Yes
No
No
1 > YES, depends on the lot though.
2 > NO change. Fine as is imo
3 > Age 6 & 7 players could be a little more, but not Age 4 & 5 players. If you end up with an age 6 or 7 player, you probably invested in him, so he should be worth slightly more.
At Ross County
1.Total focus as money is tight and hard earned and to build a challenging side you need lots.
2.About right -not that we win any
3.About right -utilize this twice a season for building the squad
1. Yes
2. £ good but worst shooter is poor IMO
3. agree
1. Do you pay much attention during the season to achieving your team sponsorship,
or is it largely forgotten and becomes a surprise end of season payout?
It makes a serious difference, so I definitely play (and gauge) for it.
2. Are end of season awards too generous?
WAY too generous. Especially since most of them are just random and / or reward special playing styles due to their calculation (e.g. the GK formula or the young shooter bonus).
At least they should be tiered and split between several winners (like div2 shooter bonus).
Some bonuses are IMHO quite pointless - like the over achiever bonus. It usually rewards teams who are already lucky with even more money. And half the league isn't even competing, since starting at T17 #8 means that even winning the league is not enough "over achieving".
3. Cash-in oldies - should the amount for old players be raised slightly?
The numbers are ok as is. No need for adjustment for 30k either way.
1. Yes.
2. I would say no, but with the exception of this season that FOR got good prices, we never see any prices. So it is nice for the awards to be substantial when you don't win often.
3. Agree with your proposed upgrades, not a lot of value for the oldest players currently.
+ I like Steve's idea for the overachievers...
1 > Yes, esp. when trying to keep 3 clean sheets!
2 > About right
3 > Not bothered, but its a lot of work for little $$$. Make more entering this post!
1. Yes but mine have been either Participation, DP or NMR so east to do.
2. Too high. One team has won 1000k plus 2 OTF (400k if he uses it) .
I'd still like over achievers tiered as I said last season maybe 300, 200, 100 with money shared if a tie (250, 250, 100)
1 > Yes
2 > I dont think a load of value needs stripping out, but would be happy to see a few changes to keep it fresh
3 > A little higher for 5+
1 > YES
2 > YES
3 > Age 6 & 7 players might be a little higher but not Age 4 & 5 players.
If you are bored waiting on new season to start......
1. Do you pay much attention during the season to achieving your team sponsorship,
or is it largely forgotten and becomes a surprise end of season payout?
2. Are end of season awards too generous?
Is there an appetite so half the money of awards?
3. Cash-in oldies - should the amount for old players be raised slightly?
Age 4 players at 15k per SL - stay the same
Age 5 players at 11k per SL - change to 12k ?
Age 6 players at 8k per SL - change to 10k ?
Age 7+ players at 6k per SL - change to 8k ?
Sorry mid 20s. Any age
Are looking for a couple of defenders happy to pay with resources
EDI are so, SOOOO excited !!!
add OTF start of new season (Manager of Season voting on-going) | ||
all added on 3/7/24 | ||
Fair Play Team Award | 104 DP | STJ |
+2 OTF | 80 DP | COV |
64 DP | EF | |
Prediction League | ||
1st Overall +3 OTF | COW | |
2nd Overall +2 OTF | STI & SRA | |
3rd Overall +1 OTF | DEE & EF | |
4th Overall +2 TP | DEV ELG HAM MOT | |
5th Overall +1 CP | ARB AYR LIV | |
Each Division will have Manager of the Season, | ||
as voted by all the managers Poll . + 2 OTF | ||
add start of new season 2 OTF | to be decided | Div 1 |
to be decided | Div 2 | |
to be decided | Div 3 | |
Morale bonus earned for following season to be as follows: | ||
* Div 1, 1st: 0.30 morale bonus | STJ | |
* Div 1, 2nd: 0.28 morale bonus | RAN | |
* Div 1, 3rd: 0.26 morale bonus | HEA | |
* Div 1, 4th: 0.24 morale bonus | RR | |
* Div 1, 5th: 0.22 morale bonus | MOT | |
* Div 1, 6th: 0.20 morale bonus | ABE | |
* Div 2, 1st: 0.15 morale bonus | HAM | |
* Div 3, 1st: 0.10 morale bonus | EF | |
* Cecil Cup Winner: 0.15 morale bonus | MOT | |
* Cecil Cup Runner-up: 0.08 morale bonus | AI | |
* SESL Cup Winner: 0.15 morale bonus | HEA | |
* SESL Cup Runner-up: 0.08 morale bonus | NAI | |
Predicto league ADMIN | 400 paid for S56 on 2/7/24 | |
Participation office | 300 paid for S56 on 2/7/24 | |
Auction value info admin | 200 n/a |
I should apologise, I was away otherwise Paul would have got at least one more vote, as he was a worthy league winner.
Thank you all who voted, was a very nice surprise!
Looking forward to what looks like a strong Div 2 next season, especially trying to finally overtake EF....
The following teams receive SESL Officer Duties through predicto & party bonus:
COW(400) MOT(299)
The following teams receive Robin Hood 4000k maximum through :
DEV(150) EF(-7) EDI(-44) HIB(-551) KIL(150) MON(150) QOS(150)
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through to match 51:
EDI(200) HIB(200) KIL(200)
The following teams receive Sponsorship success through :
ALB(400) ALO(200) BRE(500) CLY(200) COW(100) DEV(500) DUM(100) DEE(300) EF(400) ELG(500) FAL(300) HAM(200) HEA(400) HIB(100) INV(300) MOT(500) NAI(200) PET(200) RAN(500) ROS(300) STJ(200) SM(200) STE(100) STI(200) SRA(400)
Any errors just drop me a note or blog here.
I'll add money in a few hours on my next break at work.
New this season was all teams not winning an auction lot were allocated the back-up default lot for participation bonus.
This was to ensure all 48 teams have a sponsor this season.
Strike line thru team name are the 8 teams not achieving sponsor in lots 1-7.
Lot 11 default: just 4 out of 19 achieved the easy 100k bonus.
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 500k | RAN -- |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 500k | MOT -- ELG -- BRE |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row from match 9 |
400k |
ALB |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games from match 9 | 300k | |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | INV -- FAL -- |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | ALO -- SM -- STI |
9 | Win >= 10 league games this season | 200k | STJ -- NAI -- PET |
10 | Team league goals for >=20 | 200k | CLY -- HAM -- |
Earn 100k in participation bonus Div 1: ABE CEL GM RR Div 2: ANN AYR COV COW DUM HIB STE Div 3: BER DUU DFA EST FOR MON PT QOS |
100k |
default sponsor:- won by COW DUM HIB STE only |
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Jun 30th:
ALO(25) ARB(10) CLY(40) COV(15) COW(50) DEV(10) DEE(25) EF(45) EST(10) EDI(30) HIB(10) RR(10) ROS(20) STJ(20) STE(10) SRA(20)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Jun 23rd:
ALB(10) ALO(50) ARB(50) BRE(10) CLY(35) COW(50) DEV(15) DUM(10) DEE(45) EF(30) EDI(30) FAL(25) HEA(10) HIB(40) MOT(40) NAI(20) QOS(10) QP(20) ROS(20) STJ(25) STE(25) SRA(30)
As far as I can see, Paul, the league champ getting 2 votes is a record. I looked back in the voting as far as it goes back (Season 21) and the next least was last season, with Ricky at STE getting 4 votes behind a dominant AI poll victory. However, I should note that I saw Ricky pop up as winner of the award many, many times over the years - so he must be doing something right!
Next least was CEL getting 5 votes in season 22, with the 2nd and 4th placed managers getting the majority. But, in general, the trend seems to be that league winners won manager of the season much more frequently in years gone by, whereas now voting seems to head in the direction of overachievers.
With all that said, well done, Paul, on an excellent season. I'd say the voting more reflects that a) there were a lot of worthy candidates this season and b) the voting "soup du jour", so to speak, seems to have changed to favor T-17 overachievement rather than results alone.
To say this was a poor match, is the understatement of the tournament (let's not make it bigger than necessary).
Luckily the French scored (or any team in that matter), so we don't feel obliged to watch OT.
Not sure what it is with football. No matter how bad, you keep on watching as you don't want to miss out on that one moment of genious. Doesn't happen with a movie. Easily walk away as you know it is not going to get better.....
Strange when you think about it....
Congrats to Stephen for winning the Div 3 prize. Well deserved, in my opinion.
As Div 3 champions, is East Fife getting just 2 votes a record?
Not a huge success with default free sponosrship with majority of managers missing out on easy 100k bonus money for earning 100k
Div 1: ABE 10k CEL 0k GM 0k RR 35k
Div 2: ANN 40k AYR 55k COV 70k COW 580k DUM 140k HIB 770k STE 350k
Div 3: BER 0k DUU 45k DFA 0k EST 15k FOR 55k MON 0k PT 10k QOS 0k
Div2 Manager of Season poll vote now on front page
all managers can vote til July 6th
(well done Stephen at PET for clinching the Div 3 prize)
I'm truly ashamed for how the Dutch are performing so far, but today I'm really happy not to be born in the UK. I still have no idea what I have been watching today.
So many star players, all playing for big clubs with big coaches. How would they feel about Southgate? If you've played a full season for Pep or Arteta I can only imagine they dont even take this guy seriously.
That said, the same goes for Koeman and his squad. Entirely.
The 90+x minute equaliser was so SESL-esk.......how many times have seen us give away 2 points in exactly the same way? England unstoppable now.......
Gareth Southgate would get wooden spoon if played in Sesl?
Made an attacking substitution in the 93rd minute π
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 52:
Clyde FC - MVP #5: 25k (WWw)
I've been thinking about this a lot this season.
As you said highest T11 means you've got a great chan e if winning any one specific game you may want to, but T11 is far more important to me for the requirements of winning promotions, titles and cups
I work it out as 11 players for 90 minutes comes to 66 EL lost. You need 17 players at +4 EL after the game to gain that back.
11 players all passive is -55 lost so 14 needed.
11 all aggressive is -88 so 22 players would be needed.
Over achievers favours teams like I've had past two seasons with decent T11 but weak T17 (we were last, Raith 14th here). We couldn't compete with average rotation so play T11 alternating with 50% passive stall.
...or is the other bit?
I think this is because, to cope with energy loss you need to operate a rotation system, and for that you need 15 outfield players (each playing two thirds of the matches) and two keepers
Each player can play two matches out of every three (assuming normal style of play), so you need to have 15 outfielders plus 2 goalkeepers in order to rotate your squad. T17 represents the average strength you will be able to play.
What is the perceived benchmark for squad strength?
Top 11 players might win individual matches more often than not, but Top 17 stat is noted on manager of season voting.
Why top 17? Why not top 16 as in 11 starters and 5 subs? π€
Spitting mad if you won your division but never won manager of season ?
Fascinating how the Div 3 manager of season voting is panning out.
You'll need to vote yourself to see the top boss race.
I thought we had a chance at the over achievers as I have INV and RR equal 13th for starting T17 but as I said in my Journal post I don't know when the stats were taken (me and Mark).
I certainly got my stats before everyone's pre-season was completed as I have several teams with more cash but less CP than they actually started with (I converted 100k to 1 CP when making my predictions anyway) so maybe INV's T17 improved with their Bosman.
Lucky you James - didn't realise Jimmy O'Rourke was gouing to earn me 300k - I am now 201k over plus I estimate another 300k coming in, so some teams should be thanking me for all this Robin Hood cash - I propose raising the limit to 4500k - any seconders? I didn't think so.. :-(
Had so much case - rolling in it. Normally finish with just over 1500K
The following teams receive Awards through :
ABE(400) AI(300) ALB(200) ANN(300) AYR(100) BRE(100) COW(300) DUM(300) ELG(200) FOR(700) HIB(300) INV(200) PET(600) RR(300) ROS(300) STE(300) SRA(300)
The following teams receive Awards through over achievers:
DUM(400) PET(400) RR(400) STI(400)
Over achievers | |||||
Top17 start v league table finish | |||||
- Division 1 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | Top 17 start | league finish | over / under achiever | ||
1 | Clyde FC | 23.1 | 11 | -10 | under achiever |
2 | Rangers | 22.6 | 2 | 0 | |
3 | Saint Johnstone | 22.5 | 1 | 2 | |
4 | Motherwell | 22.3 | 5 | -1 | |
5 | Livingston | 22.0 | 13 | -8 | |
6 | Hearts | 21.6 | 3 | 3 | |
7 | Celtic | 21.4 | 12 | -5 | |
8 | Aberdeen | 21.0 | 6 | 2 | |
9 | Fraserburgh | 20.9 | 9 | 0 | |
10 | Edinburgh City | 20.6 | 16 | -6 | |
11 | Albion Rovers | 20.5 | 8 | 3 | |
12 | Arbroath | 20.0 | 14 | -2 | |
13 | Inverness | 19.8 | 10 | 3 | |
14 | Raith Rovers | 19.7 | 4 | 10 | OVER achiever |
15 | Greenock Morton | 19.6 | 15 | 0 | |
16 | Alloa Athletic | 18.1 | 7 | 9 | |
- Division 12 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | Top 17 start | league finish | over / under achiever | ||
1 | Hamilton Accies | 23.0 | 1 | 0 | |
2 | Clydebank | 22.6 | 10 | -8 | under achiever |
3 | Dundee FC | 22.4 | 5 | -2 | |
4 | Nairn County | 20.8 | 9 | -5 | |
5 | Stenhousemuir | 20.5 | 2 | 3 | |
6 | Hibernian | 20.4 | 6 | 0 | |
7 | Cove Rangers | 20.2 | 12 | -5 | |
8 | Annan Athletic | 20.0 | 13 | -5 | |
9 | Cowdenbeath | 20.0 | 3 | 6 | |
10 | Stranraer | 19.9 | 8 | 2 | |
11 | Airdrieonians FC | 19.7 | 7 | 4 | |
12 | Falkirk | 19.6 | 11 | 1 | |
13 | Dumbarton | 19.6 | 4 | 9 | OVER achiever |
14 | Ayr United | 19.2 | 16 | -2 | |
15 | Saint Mirren | 18.8 | 14 | 1 | |
16 | Elgin City | 17.9 | 15 | 1 | |
- Division 3 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | Top 17 start | league finish | over / under achiever | ||
1 | Brechin City | 21.7 | 8 | -7 | under achiever |
2 | East Fife | 20.7 | 1 | 1 | |
3 | Dunfermline Athletic | 19.1 | 5 | -2 | |
4 | Partick Thistle | 18.8 | 10 | -6 | |
5 | Forfar Athletic | 18.6 | 3 | 2 | |
6 | Dundee United | 18.5 | 11 | -5 | |
7 | Queens Park | 18.5 | 9 | -2 | |
8 | Berwick | 18.4 | 12 | -4 | |
9 | Ross County | 17.9 | 4 | 5 | |
10 | East Stirlingshire | 17.9 | 6 | 4 | |
11 | Peterhead | 17.8 | 2 | 9 | OVER achiever |
12 | Kilmarnock | 17.5 | 15 | -3 | |
13 | Deveronvale | 17.4 | 13 | 0 | |
14 | Queen of the South | 17.1 | 16 | -2 | |
15 | Montrose | 16.9 | 14 | 1 | |
16 | Stirling | 16.4 | 7 | 9 | OVER achiever |
more to follow
S56 awards - summer 2024 | ||||
Golden Boot | ||||
Golden Boot 300k Div 1 | Luther Blissett (FW) | RR | 30 | Div 1 |
Silver Boot 300k Div 2 | Bright Prince AI 22 | Div 2 | ||
Connor McMillan COW 22 | Div 2 | |||
Brazil STE 22 | Div 2 | |||
Jim Crowley DUM 22 | Div 2 | |||
Bronze Boot 300k Div 3 | Rory MacLeod (MA) | FOR | 25 | Div 3 |
Most man of the Match | Cammy MacKay (GK) | INV | 11 | Div 1 |
Wern Side (GK) | ANN | 9 | Div 2 | |
200k | Mark McCallum2 (GK) | FOR | 14 | Div 3 |
Golden Gloves | ||||
Golden Gloves 200k Div 1 | Gracie | ALB | 100.1 | Div 1 |
Silver Gloves 200k Div 2 | Daniel Hoban | ELG | 89.7 | Div 2 |
Bronze Gloves 200k Div 3 | Mark McCallum2 | FOR | 89.5 | Div 3 |
Worst Shooter Squib | Duk (MF) | ABE | 0/17 | Div 1 |
100k | Epic Bob (MF) | ANN | 0/10 | Div 2 |
Henry Templeton (MA) | AYR | 0/10 | Div 2 | |
Ronald de Boer (MA) | BRE | 0/12 | Div 3 | |
Rookie Hotshot age 0 + age 1 now | Jamie McGrath (FW) | ABE | 18 | Div 1 |
300k | Jimmy ORourke (MA) | HIB | 11 | Div 2 |
Xian Carbon (FW) | SRA | 11 | Div 2 | |
Eamon Brophy (FW) | ROS | 8 | Div 3 | |
David Gold (MF) | PET | 8 | Div 3 | |
Owen James (WG) | PET | 8 | Div 3 |
Haha we accidentally made the playoff... Did not see that happening but lets rock!
I just copied SRA, changed 5 out of 8 predictions - and won !
Greenock Morton played but not on the Final table. So that could be 35 different teams that participated in prediction league which is impressive engagement numbers.
Thanks Alan, you do a great job
@ Andrew...
Agree all round.
Especially re 'ALAN' who does a really wonderful job each and every season.
.......so I came second with 4 and Clyde copied my results, changed most of them and still won it with 5!?!?
Love the unpredictablility of SESL.
Thanks Alan for running this so well this season!
I'm not sure the table will have changed much at all from last week. Stranraer having 2 missed weeks the biggest and possible only mover, jumping from 12th to joint 2nd.
So congratulations Cowdenbeath, a steady performance throughout the season, taking first place by 2 points from Stirling and Stranraer.
Full table here, any issues please in box me.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 10 Winners:
CLY(50) DEE(50)
So the way things are supposed to work is that the tension builds towards the end of the league, you get 2 chances in rounds 9 and 10 to get your worst scores out of 9 round scrubbed. It's not always obvious how things are going to work out...
But the one ingredient you need to make this happen is a decent score in either round 9 or 10.
So what happens? Round 10 delivers one of the all time low scoring rounds. It even produces a ZERO score ( St. Johnstone!). Not sure I have ever seen that before.
The stats speak for themselves so not going to type huge amounts here. Only 2 results went with the majority and one of those was a 58%.
We had a 4% team win. Partick playing a 5 SL striker an 8 SL midfielder and getting a fine 3-2 away win.
We also had 2 draws, throw all that into the mix and we arrive at an average score of 3.17. Quite possibly the 2nd lowest average score in Prediction League history, only bettered by this seasons round 1 of 3.09.
Onto our winners, we had 2 who managed to score a very decnet 5 points each. Well done Dundee and Clyde. 50k each.
Thanks to all the divisional reviewers, it adds a lot to the game.
Meanwhile, I find myself watching Scotland v Hungary and finding it is more interesting to put something on the SESL blog....
If it does not SHOW....how can i comment on it ????
League match reviews posted quickly, and a good read.
Div 1 Goldon Gloves is ALB Gracie i think that appears to not be showing in the stats today.
Maybe gone above 99.9 rating so doesn't display?
Onwards and upwards next season Arnold.
3 x age 1 high rated players, &
3 x age 2 high rated players currentlyat QOS.
A great foundation to kick on with.
The to be expected wooden spoon. Things can only go up for QOS as of next season.
Rebuilding will take time, lots of it probably, but we'll get better.
For now..a bit of a break and finally the sun starts shining!
Close.
Better to have 4 or 9 CP left at HIB, than give excess over 4000k away for nothing I'd argue.
Magnificent end to league campaign by HIB.
EDI seemed to have set himself up nicely for next season. Resource planning the name of the game in Sesl it seems.
The reason for selling off resources is that if you reach the pre season with say 1-4 resources you can't buy the number to reach 50. So better to have say 5 (as you can buy in 5s) or none - and then buy in the full amount. Method in the madness - certainly madness!!
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 51:
Rangers - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
Motherwell - MVP #8: 25k (wdW)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Ross County - MVP #4: 1 CP (WdW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 50:
Fraserburgh - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #9: 25k (wWw)
Greenock Morton - MVP #3: 1 TP (Www)
Dumbarton - MVP #6: 25k (wDW)
Stranraer - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #7: 25k (DWw)
Stewards enquiry continues, but more likely manual foul play rather than anything in the software. The manager never noticed so may be security issues perhaps.
Steps already being put in place for closer monitoring now, and for seasons ahead.
Commish access will be restricted to people I have met in person, or spoken on video call like when cup draws took place via Teams.
Age 10 Ramsay is outwith the auto aging process for a few seasons now, and seems a vanity player who might never be SL 0 and retire. Needs shot at some point.
As long as he's not coached, Ramsey is an obscurity, not a major issue. So just check that he gets no coaching, and let HEA keep him, if they really need a mascot.
Clark OTOH is a key player - and the additional top SL makes a big difference.
So I'm glad that Clark was resolved quite fast.
However, I'd like to know if it was a software issue or a manual handling error; just to know what to look out for in the future.
Xavi Simons had a second-half goal controversially ruled out as the Netherlands and France played out the first goalless draw of Euro 2024.
GK could have dived but had 2 of his own DF that blocked his vision. Not the Dutch guy standing still not interfering with play.
Last trade had HIB selling CP for money. Stockpiling resources late on in season may have kept the masked man of Sherwood Forest at bay!
Zander Clark I see CohenRamsey is still at Hearts he should have been retired by now
Still lives and he will be visiting Easter Road after next week and robbing us blind (or with one eye open) - at least we will start next season with a full bank account.. :-)
Just hope the recipient of our spare cash apprecaites it - I know I woul;d if I was about to get some extra readies..
Spain looked decent last night. 1 nil going on 5 nil.
England will be fine and come good soon.
Scotland surely capable of beating Hungry on Sunday. John McGinn hasn't played well yet, and the miserable manager Clarke making attacking subs in 90th minute is mad management.
It's tight at the top!
Stirling made up for their missed entry in round 8 and with a joint winning score race back into 2nd place. However in reality they are level with Cowdenbeath. Assumign they score 5 or more they'll have a 3 drop off and gain the 2 points needed to catch Cowdenbeath. The mad cows will be looking to out score them to avoid any last round heartache.
East Fife are still in with a chance, they are 3 points behind but have a 4 to come off. They'll need high score and things to go their way to take top spot.
However there is still plenty to play for for lots of team with prizes shared when teams finish tied. This means we could see lots of teams get some reward.
I'd got as far as:
Hey Jude, you played bad
You had a crap game, you must get better.
Hey Jude, don't play so bad.
Take a sad team and make it better.
Remember, to pass the ball forward,
Then you can help Gareth look slightly better.
Hey Jude
Na na na nananana, nannana, hey Jude...
Why did England NMR? T11 all passive is a sure sign of an NMR.
Who Jude?
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 9 Winners:
DEV(20) MOT(20) ROS(20) STI(20) SRA(20)
Round 9 and Division 2 produced our highest average scoring with 6.73.
There were some clear favourites in this round of fixtures.
In the first 4 fixtures we had 95%, 91%, 95% and 86% correctly predict. Quick calc I make that that 6 incorrect guesses from 88. We also had Dundee v Elgin with 95% goign for the home side. Correctly. With 86% of the banker picks going with one of these 5 it was always going to be a high scoring round.
However we had no perfect scores so there must have been an anomoly or 2.
There was a couple, the big one was Ayr wining at home to Nairn. Only 2 selections called that one right. Shouldn't really have been that big a surprise given Nairn had a cup final coming up.
Stranraer also upset the odds to a lesser extent with 36% having them down to beat Annan. 50% had opted for the home side and a brave 14% for the draw. So on paper that was always a hard one to predict.
So onto our winners, we had 5 so 20k each.
Well done Motherwell, Deveronvale, Stranraer, Stirling and Ross County.
There are two possible explanations.
1 a glitch in the software that let him have 11 CP
2 his PU was reset sometime.
I'm now seeing the issue was with him reaching 34 and now he is listed at 33. I was going off bad data in the below, so someone with more info than I can explain that.
All of the match logs are there to be followed to see Clark's progress.
Clark started the season as a 3/26. Right before MSA he was a 3/27. MSA would have moved that to a 3/24. Which means with a further 9 PU that would take him to a 3/33 now. Seems right to me.
If you need further info, should be easy to find each match and see where he was given CP for each of the 10 PU. But since the math works out, I have no interest in spending the time.
I'm guessing what threw your math off is that most of his PU were in the second half of the season and not the first?
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 49:
ALB(200) ANN(200) ARB(200) DEV(200) DUM(200) DEE(200) EF(200) ELG(200) FRA(200) HEA(200) HIB(200) MOT(200) STE(200) SRA(200)
Starting as a GK 3/26 there is no way that he could reach 34 SL - if the PU 10 is correctly applied.
I assume there were - like recently - some manual correction issues involved, which should be corrected.
If I am wrong about this, I'm willing to learn.
The following teams receive Betting on Cup Final through match 49:
ALB(-100) ANN(-100) ARB(-100) BRE(-100) CLY(-100) DEV(-100) DUM(-100) DEE(-100) EF(-100) ELG(-100) FRA(-100) GM(-100) HEA(-100) HIB(-100) LIV(-100) MOT(-100) NAI(-100) STJ(-100) STE(-100) SRA(-100)
Looking forward to cup final in few hours time.
Most would want the underdog to win. How many put their money on it though with a bet!
Ahead of the cup final today I've taken a punt on the NAI boys to do the business. Whilst browsing, scowling at the non believers I spotted the curious case of Zander Clark HEA keeper, starting the season as 26 SL now 34 with only 8 points used, what sorcery is this. So I had a peek, 10 PU so Coco has lost the plot, or has he.
Clark started season as 26SL, 1 CP applied in match 23. Reach MSA as 3/27 1PU.
MSA hits, 3/27 becomes 3/24 still just 1 PU.
Match 29 / Match 30 / Match 33 / Match 35 / Match 36 / Match 37 / Match 39 / Match 41 / Match 42 / Match 43
NAI's dodgy maths or an SL boost of the Uri Geller spoon bending / moving the ball off the penalty spot McAllister vs England '96 style?
Majority must copy and edit the entry above.
May sometimes see a load of ...... before their 1, 2 or X.
Not sure necessary to add these dots to prediction entry.
May have something to do with what device you using: desktop PC, laptop, Ipad, phone.
Grim if a manager can't hold down a previous entry and copy paste, rather than type whole thing from scratch.
I've just copied SRA.
But changed 5 out of 8 prediction entry !
......when you copy someones predictions for your own and then go through and review them and change 7 out of 8......anyone else have this issue?
There are occasions when you type in the voting section and either run of of space or hit send before you type SHANKLAND. Let's face it, HEA are a great team. How did that happen?
I typically avoid commenting too much on other managers' blog entries or journals, but as i was catching up on posts i found the case of MOT too interesting to resist.
:-)
I share your lack of judgement, but think you raise some intersting questions and observations Andrew that i would otherwise have missed. I'm intrigued too, to understand what lies behind it. You're right, its one of the strengths of SESL, that different managers at different times are working on different strategies. Keeps it inetresting. I've been there - i had to look differently at STE in division 3 after 5,219 seasons of misery. Im sure theres some sensible logic behind it!
I typically avoid commenting too much on other managers' lineups or decisions, but as I was working on prediction league picks I found the case of BRE too interesting to resist.
In div. 3, Brechin City have a massive advantage in both T-11 and T-17. At 29.7 they are 2.4 above 2nd place in T-11, and their T-17 of 25.8 is 2.1 above the 2nd best there. So, for that squad to be winless in seven matches...seemed odd!
Looking at ELs and match logs paints a bit more of the picture, as their weakest players are the players whose ELs are the lowest on the team. Top players that end up starting are often played as 'p' while at EL10. And in that time BRE have fallen from being in the auto-promotion spots to being a couple points shy of the promotion playoff spots.
So, does that mean that BRE are 'tanking' to stay in Div 3 another season to continue building their squad? Or is there something that I'm missing to explain why the top Div 3 side has been struggling with results for weeks on end? Perhaps Fran will give us some insight, or perhaps he will keep his secrets. Not making any judgments here, just found it interesting, that's all! Will be interested to see how the strategy plays out, similar to how I'm following PET's trajectory after they made many bold trades to sell off top players for a couple seasons in a row.
All ties in to my thinking that SESL is at its best when many managers are trying out different strategies. I missed the DP conversation from last week, but I'm glad that there is no penalty for going over 200 DP anymore. How boring would it be if nobody was trying out David's unique strategy of going heavy on aggressive tactics? The sendings off, penalties, and suspensions are cost enough to discourage everyone from going all 'a' or 'd' all the time, so no need to make the strategy completely non-viable.
Week 10 Notebook entries are now open
May be Thursday before I can post week 9 results. Remains tight at the top.
Even though it was accidental, he got an advantage when it hit is hand.
Unlucky but it should be disallowed.
Lukaku should have had match won for Belgium in first half. But laws of game seem to have changed and that was a hand ball per the rules in build up to his late late winner (disallowed).
Really great first 45 minutes for England, based on second half its a miracle they didn't concede any goals. Quite surprised by Serbia, but they do of course have quite a few solid players.
Shocked by the Belgium result just now. France next! I hate it, but they are the nr#1 favourite. They just don't deserve it with a coach like that π #booringfootball
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Jun 16th:
ALO(40) ANN(10) ARB(25) BRE(20) CLY(25) COV(10) COW(50) DEV(20) DEE(20) EF(20) EDI(30) FAL(15) HAM(20) HEA(20) HIB(45) LIV(10) ROS(20) STE(50) SRA(25)
Good win for Netherlands.
All eyes on England now in an hour.
Well, most eyes.
Are we enjoying it so far?
The Germans did as everyone expected I guess, same for Spain. I was pleasantly surprised by the Italians last night. In the first 45 minutes that is. Very attractive play!
Just a couple of hours until the Dutch, my Dutch, head on a Lewandowskiless Poland π Excited!
One goal we had this season, secure that sponsorship deal. League goals >=60. Super happy we made it. At first it looked like it would be easy, but we needed almost a full season to secure it.
Don't rush to retire your rubbish players.
I have 12 players on 8 DP and will be fighting for every point next weekend. With strict and fair refs we could easily pick up suspensions making it impossible to put out a team of 11 players.
I put easily at first but realised we need 9 of those players picking up yellow cards.
For a minute I thought you meant morale was >1 without the bonus, which is impossible.
The bonus affects gate money.
Standard morale affects OFF and DEF increasing both by 10 times morale so 9.2 in your case compared to 5 at the start of the season. Not a big amount in these high SL times but better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.
After a set of good results today, we have joined Saint Johnstone in ahving a morale bonus >1.0! (although it may be capped to 1.0 :-))
First time we have ever had a Morale as high as 0.92 and combined with our bonus of 1.0, i'm really hoping it helps our results in the final week of the seasonalthough HAM are riding high at 0.88 as well :-(
Can't remember the maths without looking, as to what impact the high MOR rating will actually have, but its got to be good right? :-)
10 straight league wins its taken to get us there (with a SESL cup defeat in the mix too)
SESL did have a financial penalty for going over 200 DPs but it was stopped - sometimes even with loose refs you could get yellows and reds and some clubs felt penalised.
In Hibs case I have always tried to out out teams all in a minimum of 20SLs so I don't just concede matches without trying. Suspensions are part of the game and tactic changes are too. You will NEVER see any of my seasons with 100% using just one tactic - boring.
I accept players on "a" will collect cards - but I can get lucky sometimes and avoid them. If the suspension came back in again it takes away a lot of my fun - so I wouldn't accept it. I play for fun and results - and accept the penalties for pushing the boat out. It is a Great game, as it is...π
PS I have another string to my how - match secretary at my bowling club, and unfortunately 2 competitions have to be played on Saturdays - the second one is today, so my reviews (assuming people read them π) won't be going on site till 6pm and afterwards.
I think we've been a bit unlucky especially as I play half or more of my team passive one game in three but I haven't checked other teams. I know David plays aggressive a lot so no surprise on their DP.
60 DP for East Fife is incredibly low if refs have been randomly allocated and all n agrression but with 48 teams there's going to be this kind of distribution.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 48:
Clyde FC - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWD)
Cowdenbeath - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWw)
Dundee FC - MVP #5: 25k (wWD)
Peterhead - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 47:
Aberdeen - MVP #3: 1 TP (DwW)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwD)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
.....the morning after......still there's always the cricket.....
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through to match 45:
EDI(300) HIB(300) KIL(300)
SESL did have a financial penalty for going over 200 DPs but it was stopped - sometimes even with loose refs you could get yellows and reds and some clubs felt penalised.
In Hibs case I have always tried to out out teams all in a minimum of 20SLs so I don't just concede matches without trying. Suspensions are part of the game and tactic changes are too. You will NEVER see any of my seasons with 100% using just one tactic - boring.
I accept players on "a" will collect cards - but I can get lucky sometimes and avoid them. If the suspension came back in again it takes away a lot of my fun - so I wouldn't accept it. I play for fun and results - and accept the penalties for pushing the boat out. It is a Great game, as it is...π
PS I have another string to my how - match secretary at my bowling club, and unfortunately 2 competitions have to be played on Saturdays - the second one is today, so my reviews (assuming people read them π) won't be going on site till 6pm and afterwards.
I seem to remember that there used to be a financial penalty at the end of the season for any team that went over 200 DPs.
But i have not seen that implemented for quite a while now.
Maybe it was in a different game ?
Ranges from 60 DP to 260 DP currently.
EF might be passive players, I haven't checked, but HIB at 260 DP must be a struggle to juggle a good lineup with so many player suspensions.
ALO are ranked 19th top DP. Has referee allocation been stricter for them than average?
Pitiful performance vs Germany.
Still think Scotland can get 3 or 4 points and make the knock outs.
Agree, hats-off to the Iron-Bru marketing dept. f%$king brilliant!
I think you mean it's a below-the-belter.
7 of our T11 are on 8 DP which could be crucial next week or the week after - we aren't certain to avoid the play-offs yet. I hate refs.
And I really don't know what to do against Motherwell...
Not sure if link works, but Google search Scotland Mannschaft irn bru tv advert.
It's a belter.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGebuBtQp/
Enjoy the Euro championship chaps
π
Anyone got some inside from Inverness on pir new defender?
Division 2 Prediction League this Satureday. 10 Entries so far.
Totally agree -once out I shoot through the scores but with the betting it gives an extra interest, and on occasions I actually win some π°π°
2 out of 4 success for me.
Betting does though keep an interest in the Sesl cup. I not sure if I would care very much abour cup results if I wasn't betting on it, being honest.
4 bets. twice picked winner. its a 50/50 chance so nothing to shout about that return.
Four times my picked goalscorer has NOT scored.
4 times.
Pure and utter drivel and total baws, as they say in Scotland.
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 46:
ALB(100) COW(100) DEE(150) EF(150) EDI(150) ELG(150) FRA(100) HIB(150) KIL(150) LIV(100) MOT(150) NAI(150) STJ(100) SRA(100)
Games last 90 minutes.
Was glad there wasn't 30 minutes extra time today mind you
π€ͺ
Classic cup ties today.
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through match 46:
ALB(-50) ARB(-50) BRE(-50) CLY(-50) COW(-50) DEE(-50) EF(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FRA(-50) GM(-50) HIB(-50) KIL(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) NAI(-50) STJ(-50) SRA(-50)
Have we a gap at the top of the table?
On paper yes but as we are pains to say each week there are the 2 lowest scores from the league matches to drop off. So Cowdenbeath may have a 5 point lead but they have been steady rather than prolific.
They'll need to score higher than a 5 each week to better their score whilst the chasing pack have 0s, 2s, 3, and 4s.
Keep an eye on Stirling (Hopefully the don't regret missing out round 7) and Hamilton. Both have 0's to better then Hamilton have a 2 to come off, Stirling a 3.
Round 9 is this weekend, Notebook entries are open.
This is quite rare what STI have done ?
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 8 Winners:
HAM(100)
Division 1 was the Prediction league focus this week.
Week 1 and division 1 produced a very low success rate and whilst this time it didn't go to those low levels the spread of opinion across multiple fixtures suggest there was no clear winners for many games.
For example there was only 3 games that had > 50% of opinion. And 1 of them was wrong.
I don't recall that level of uncertainty before. Certainly not this season.
Once more we had a single winner taking all the swag.
Hamilton this week scoring 7 points, 100k coming their way.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Jun 9th:
ALO(40) ARB(10) CLY(10) COW(50) DEE(50) EF(20) EDI(50) FAL(15) HEA(10) HIB(35) LIV(50) MOT(15) PET(30) QP(25) ROS(40) STJ(10) STE(25) SRA(10)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Jun 2nd:
ALO(45) ARB(25) BRE(10) COW(10) DEE(35) EF(20) EST(15) EDI(20) FAL(20) HEA(10) HIB(20) LIV(10) ROS(20)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru May 26th :
ABE(10) ALO(50) COW(10) DUM(20) DEE(25) EF(25) EDI(35) FAL(20) FRA(15) HAM(20) HEA(10) HIB(25) LIV(15) MOT(25) NAI(25) QP(25) ROS(25) SRA(10)
....anybody just finishing under $4000k will have had an arrow escape........look its Monday morning, what do you expect??
End of season awards may tip a few over 4000k with team sponsorship to add too.
Alot of money spent at auctions maybe keeps Robin Hood at bay a bit.
With trading finished and only 4 league games remaining...
A quick look at the STATS table suggest that there will be very little(if any?) Robin Hood hand outs this season.
Looks like the steps that were taken a few seasons ago to reduce the amount of money in the game are finally taking effect.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 45:
Saint Johnstone - MVP #8: 25k (WwW)
Celtic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wdW)
Stenhousemuir - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
Cove Rangers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dwW)
Dunfermline Athletic - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWd)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 44:
Hearts - MVP #5: 25k (WWw)
Greenock Morton - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Nairn County - MVP #5: 25k (wWD)
East Fife - MVP #6: 25k (WdW)
Ended without as much as a whimper. Surpringly.
My sweeper -i pressed the wrong button when retiring players when he was 0/11 and contacted mark to tell him of my mistake -he re-instated at a later date and I continued to tp him -my mistake Mark has lowered him to 0/17 as he should be and given me 4tps back that I should not have used- sorry for any inconvenience caused
Worth noting that the superstar draw turned any 0/X into a 0/10 and did not just add 5 SL to any (hence why it was pretty much exclusively used on 0/5s). And you are correct that it was skipped this season, it seems.
Given the retirement, I'm guessing that that retirement was an accident and when the player was re-instanted they were accidentally re-instated with 0 PU. You can see that the player was purchased as an 0/5 apprentice on Feb 22nd and likely was retired after 4 PU + seasoning making them a 0/11. So, their cap should have been limited to 0/17. But, if they were brought back as a 0/11 that has again not been seasoned, they would have then been able to gain 12 SL to reach 0/23.
There was a rookie super star draw last season (not sure if happened this season) that made any age 0 plus 5 Skill Level via a lucky dip random draw.
Dan at Annan did it and could advise.
No idea if that is what happened with ROS rookie though.
I'm still quite new at this game.
Stil, I was somewhat surprised at this player in Ross County's squad ...
Ryan Leak | SW | 0 | 23 | 4 | 10 |
given that the max SL of a 0/10 is 22.
Even more so, since he wasn't even an expensive auction rookie, but the only hint I could find on him was ...
March 23, 2024
I'm quite interested how a retired player turned into SESL's top rookie.
1 if LIV wants to bid for one of my 2 CPs then feel free - think big though..
2 I'm afraid I have to run a bowls competition tomorrow (usually it's only Sundays) so Division 2 reviews will be either evening Saturday or am Sunday. Apologies to my loyal readers.. πππ
The curret trade window...the LAST of this season, closes at around 4am on this Saturday morning.
Thats it until NEXT season folks.
So if you wanna trade.....Trade NOW.
TRADE ALERT!
X X has submitted a trade offer where XXX sends 1 CP to LIV for 200k
And Jesus wept.
A round this weekend, only 6 entries so far.
I'll pay you 125k a pop for CP today.
LIV sends 2 TP to ABE for 200k
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 43:
ALB(50) ANN(50) ARB(100) BRE(100) CLY(150) COW(150) DUM(150) DEE(50) ELG(50) FAL(50) FRA(150) HEA(50) MOT(50) STI(150) SRA(50)
STJ sends 1 CP to HEA for 115k
HEA sends 115k to RAN for 1 CP
Blast - completely missed it - been a busy week but have usually placed a bet.. annoying, but life goes on. π·π
HEA sends 225k to ARB for 2 CP
reminder:
TRADE WINDOW CLOSES
- 7 June 2024
or more specifically 12 hours before match 44 so 4am UK time on Saturday when pre match auto trade block is in effect.
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through match 43:
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) ARB(-50) BRE(-50) CLY(-50) COW(-50) DUM(-50) DEE(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) FRA(-50) HEA(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) STJ(-50) STI(-50) SRA(-50)
Farage has lost the 7 times the 7 seats he has stood for at a UK election.
Farage is standing for a 8th time next month in London.
I do like Stephen PET play on words using Pole as in unskilled Polish workers Farage wants to ban, rather than Polling votes use of word Poll.
Confused?
Only another month until UK election day - I kinda want both the top 2 to lose!
He's never hidden that he's against the Polls (sp?).
Wife is German though.
Ex is Irish, maybe that explains some difficulty with the border?
Cowdenbeath's lead at the top drops by 1 as they score a below average 5. They are now closely followed by Stirling who gained a point on them via their score of 6. Stirling have a 3 pointer from week 1 to come off so will gain another 2 on Cowdenbeath.
Queen of the South will be kicking themselves, they were in joint 2nd place but a no entry will put an end to their hopes of decent finish.
There are 3 teams on 36 points and which means they are 5 back from the leaders. A couple of good results from the 3 remaining rounds could potentially bring them into a top of the table battle.
Teh next round is this coming Saturday, entry is open on the Notebook.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 7 Winners:
STJ(200)
The biggest round of the SESL campaign, 200k prize fund and your score stays with you. No safety net.
So let's look at the results, any shocks?
Probably. Definitely in fact. No one, not even Stirling themselves had Stirling beating cup stalwarts Rangers. A rare 100%, no one got it right moment.
So bang goes the perfect scores…
Quite a few also had Rangers as their banker bet. Damn.
Most of the rest of the matches went with the favourite.
Falkirk surprised most by beating Inverness. Only 12% (3 managers) had that one. Falkirk backed themselves here.
Motherwell v Livingston the one tie that had people split. 38% going for either side, quite a high 23% predicting a draw. Motherwell took the spoils.
Onto the winner then. We had a single manager score 8 points, obviously the Rangers tie being the one that got away. Not that it matters money wise, the full 200k goes to them anyway. Well done St. Johnstone.
Oh.
Brave blog below.
Farage ....
.... although he has lost 7 of the last 7 polls he been involved in ....
;-)
COV sends 110k to DEE for 1 TP
SRA sends 125k to DEE for 1 CP
a) Fido
b) Empress Tzu Tzu
c) Farage
d) Dunkin Butterbeans
e) Fiona Penny Pickles
Tell me about it, but then probably serves me right for NMRing at the weekend. Could have managed the squad better esp with playing bottom in the game before. Also might have cost myself an important 3pts with it.
Top 2 meet next in Div 3
PET unlucky to have SL29 WG and SL 30 FW unavailable for selection on Saturday.
Apologies for the NMR last week, has been a while but it just completely slipped my mind!
Totally agree that it would be advisable to check in several times on Friday if you are looking to make a trade.
Trade list entries tend to disappear after 5 or 7 days (I'm guessing)
Trade offers can sit for everymore I think. Reset each close season though typically.
Guessing (again) is the trades being offered are being countered elsewhere and the manager is hedging his bets.
Ahem, er, guessing, there may be a flood of last minute trades on Friday.
Agreed John, very frustrating when that happens.
I suggest that you also send a PM and hope either the Trade offer and/or the PM gets noticed ??
And the trade window closes for this season in 4 days.
I have a few trade proposals in orange text above that been sat for 2 and 3 weeks.
Do they expire after a set time?
Odd they not declined and a counter offer made π€
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 42:
Dumbarton - MVP #5: 25k (wWw)
Dundee FC - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
Queen of the South - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 41:
Saint Johnstone - MVP #7: 25k (WdW)
Hearts - MVP #4: 1 CP (Www)
Stenhousemuir - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #5: 25k (wWw)
Hibernian - MVP #5: 25k (WdW)
Queens Park - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
ARB sends 2 CP to HAM for 230k
I fancy our chances in Group 1. Group 3 looks to be the Group of Death.
Trade cost for prizes may go crazy in days leading up to transfer window closing for the season.
TRADE WINDOW CLOSES
- 7 June 2024
#bigspenders
RAN sends 235k to ARB for 2 CP
120k per CP seems latest going rate.
100k per TP perhaps, but that varies 80-110k at times.
But, within 2 months the cost will be HALF these prices!
Would it be fair to think resources would become more expensive the closer to trade window closing?
ANN B. Cereus WG 1 / 26
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 40:
ALB(100) ANN(100) ARB(150) AYR(100) CLY(100) COW(100) DEE(100) FRA(100) HAM(100) HIB(100) INV(100) LIV(100) MOT(100) NAI(100) STJ(100) SRA(100)
.... said no one from Arbroath.
π€£
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through match 40:
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) ARB(-50) AYR(-50) CLY(-50) COW(-50) DEE(-50) ELG(-50) FRA(-50) HAM(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) INV(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) NAI(-50) STJ(-50) SRA(-50)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 40:
Motherwell - MVP #7: 25k (WWW)
Hi all, reminder that the prediction league last 16 round is tomorrow
18 entries so far
Also, you don't count injured or suspended players in the total SL. And, you probably realised this, but if a player is substituted then it's pro rata on the two players.
I used to play in Flatnz, run by Tim Given. It was similar to SESL except a different points system, and the fact that you had to buy TP as well as CP. Cash was very low anyway as we played less games so teams tended to have a T11 and little else. But the blow-out rule was tough - or rather the throwing-game rule. Whereas the other leagues at the time had a straight 5 goal defeat = a blow out (you could appeal) Flatnz's rule was that you had to play 40% of T11 every minute of the game and aggression/out of position was taken into account.
It's average raw SL.
So a GK playing FW passive is still counted with his (undiscounted) GK SL.
And yes, ALO aren't the only ones playing this occasionally. ALO just seem to play this more often than others.
Masters of fielding 50% and ALO avoiding any potential blowout when resting.
But is it starting %, ending% or average % of team Skill Level used?
And is it effective SL so lower when passive rather than normal "normal"!?
Alloa didn't NMR in either game. All passive was a choice. You can tell it isn't an NMR if the lineup isn't 4-4-2 N as that is the default.
It's possible for a manager to pick a tactic and order CP/TP and/or substitutes and forget to enter a lineup (or accidentally pick the wrong match number) and that would show as 4-4-2 N but still not technically an NMR.
Why all passive? We're going to lose anyway so why risk yellow/red cards or waste EL?
NAI sends 1 CP to STE for 120k
CLY sends Marcus Thuram (4/22 FW) to SM for 3 CP
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 39:
Stirling - MVP #3: 1 TP (dWw)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 38:
Rangers - MVP #4: 1 CP (Www)
Hearts - MVP #3: 1 TP (WWw)
Nairn County - MVP #4: 1 CP (Wwd)
Dundee FC - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWd)
Saint Mirren - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through to match 36:
EDI(200) HIB(200) KIL(200)
Reminder: This match is next Wednesday
The all important SESL Cup Prediction league round will take place next Wednesday.
Why is it important?
SRA sends 400k to BER for 4 TP
NAI sends 5k to RR for Ryan Porteous (7/4 DF)
The Wee County are on the lookout for an older lesser SL player for very little Ks. Anyone with a suitable player please make an offer but dont expect too many Ks.
Very fair point made. Further trade now done to balance a bit better.
Even if you took the oldie trade-in value of the players they are only worth 105k. That's if you think that's what they are worth - they are not.
CLY sends 1 TP to ABE for 160k
I don't normally get involved with these but Raymond is new and that latest trade is very poor for CLY. The two players don't add anything to T17 as they are the lowest SL of all Clyde's players. EL is a little low but manageable with the 19 players they already had.
TP is going for 80k or more.
CLY sends 2 TP to ABE for Euan Cameron (5/9 MF), Marley Watkins (5/12 FW)
SRA sends 80k to ALO for 1 TP
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 37:
ARB(150) BRE(150) EDI(100) MOT(50)
BRE sends 1 CP to FRA for 120k
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 37:
Motherwell - MVP #6: 25k (WwD)
Greenock Morton - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWW)
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through match 37:
ALO(-50) ARB(-50) BRE(-50) CLY(-50) COW(-50) DUM(-50) DEE(-50) EF(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FRA(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) ROS(-50) STJ(-50) SRA(-50)
To be honest I didn't anticipate picking up 2 lads - but we needed at least someone as we only have 18 players.
The 2 we got will be playing so as to rest some ELs for others, but at least they won't be playing on "a" π€π€
I fancied the 1/16 but it would have meant I needed 60 CPs to start the season to train up my (hopefully) promotion push).
Here's to this afternoon's game - good luck! π₯π₯
An age 5/27 player will be 6/20 next season.
I only mention this to make sure my PB is over 100k ;-)
Agree with William that Division only auctions has an impact of high prices paid at auctions overall again this season.
Divisions only auctions should stay though, as I am of opinion many Div 3 managers will feel this only chance of adding a player.
Might be worth a summary review of how many players from all 10 auctions went to each team.
I'm pants at stats though.
I don't have the facts and figures available to compare.....but its my feeling that auction prices have increased this season.
I suspect that is partly due to more managers actually getting involved + for the last few seasons there are only 8 auctions that are accessable for a manager to bid in due to the first 3 auctions being per division ONLY.
I'm not a big fan of the final auction as it can be too much of a game changer over the last 10games of the season and i'm not sure that it would pass a 'reality' check but its the same for all if your team has the funds in the bank.
Otherwise, i quite like the current format of the auction system tbh.
To be honest I didn't anticipate picking up 2 lads - but we needed at least someone as we only have 18 players.
The 2 we got will be playing so as to rest some ELs for others, but at least they won't be playing on "a" π€π€
I fancied the 1/16 but it would have meant I needed 60 CPs to start the season to train up my (hopefully) promotion push).
Here's to this afternoon's game - good luck! π₯π₯
Couple of bits
1 - got to be in it to win it, I generally try to throw some cheeky bids in on the off chance we get a bargain. Likely its a wasted bid but it doesnt cost us anything so worth a punt.
2 - the station park towers were deeeeeeelighted to see our mid week cup opponents pick up 2 25+sl players right before the game. Makes a difficult game that much more difficult. Hopefully they Hibs it.
CB sends 200k to ANN for 2 TP
EDI sends 120k to ARB for 1 CP
EDI sends 120k to BRE for 1 CP
Amounts seem to have gone up this season but especially as this was the last one.
We bid on a few lads (as a team didn't get back to me about a player after I offered an amount they asked for) as we only had 18 players (and I estimated we would have quite a bit over 4,000 by the season end).
So we splashed the cash and bought 2 older lads age 5 but both have SL 27. Even next season they will be SL 22 till MSA. A DF we didn't really need but the MF we certainly did.
it doesn't change our plan to hold back this season and prepare for next season.
MOT sends 120k to HIB for 1 CP
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru May 19th:
AI(10) ALB(10) ALO(50) ARB(10) BRE(25) CLY(10) COW(50) DUM(25) DEE(20) EF(50) EDI(20) FAL(25) FRA(20) HIB(50) MOT(10) QP(25) ROS(25) STJ(20) SRA(35)
....to Alon for running this friendly a-side from the hustle and bustle of SESL. Surely deserving of some extra $$$ or something? Well done!
Season is over so no more predictions for the next 3 months.
I finished the season on a hot streak winning the last 2 .
Man City champions for the 6th time in 7 years.
Alon Atie 14.5
Andrew McCumiskey 12.5
Paul Cockyne 12.5
Andrew Foss-Grant 12.0
Mark Creasey 10.5
Kevin Hull 10.5
Bryce Kalmbach 9.5
Andy Shaw 8.0
David Blair 7.5
EDI sends 345k to DUM for 3 CP
Just 2 auction lots all season went for under 100k.
But 5 went for over 1,000k.
Kinda healthy though .
Some crazy prices at auction today.
Meanwhile, some teams bidding very very low indeed like 50k or 170k. They want a bargain, but its last auction of season so likely to be competitive.
Prices seem high though. Why is CP such a high high price at auction?
CLY sends 3 TP to FRA for 300k
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru May 12th:
ALB(10) ALO(50) ARB(20) BRE(25) COW(50) DEV(10) DEE(50) EF(50) EDI(40) FAL(30) FOR(10) FRA(10) HEA(25) HIB(50) LIV(45) MOT(50) NAI(10) QP(25) ROS(45) SRA(30)
Both teams look fairly well rested.
A 50/50 cup tie on Wednesday
Good luck both teams
Bit late to the party but worth a try for the last weekend!
Arsenal 0-99 Everton
Brentford 2-2 Newcastle
Brighton 0-2 Man United
Burnley 2-3 Nottingham Forest
Chelsea 2-0 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 1-1 Aston Villa
Liverpool 3-0 Wolves
Luton Town 0-2 Fulham
Man City 5-1 West Ham
Sheffield United 1-2 Tottenham
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 36:
Livingston - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWD)
Airdrieonians FC - MVP #5: 25k (wDw)
Dumbarton - MVP #4: 1 CP (WdW)
Dunfermline Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwD)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 35:
Alloa Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
Raith Rovers - MVP #5: 25k (WdW)
Annan Athletic - MVP #5: 25k (wWd)
Peterhead - MVP #3: 1 TP (WdW)
Arsenal 2-0 Everton
Brentford 1-4 Newcastle
Brighton 1-2 Man United
Burnley 1-1 Nottingham Forest
Chelsea 3-1 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 3-2 Aston Villa
Liverpool 3-1 Wolves
Luton Town 1-2 Fulham
Man City 4-0 West Ham
Sheffield United 1-3 Tottenham
Arsenal 3-0 Everton
Brentford 0-2 Newcastle
Brighton 1-1 Man United
Burnley 2-1 Nottingham Forest
Chelsea 2-3 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 1-2 Aston Villa
Liverpool 2-0 Wolves
Luton Town 1-1 Fulham
Man City 3-0 West Ham
Sheffield United 0-3 Tottenham
Arsenal 2-0 Everton
Brentford 1-2 Newcastle
Brighton 2-1 Man United
Burnley 2-1 Nottingham Forest
Chelsea 3-0 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 2-1 Aston Villa
Liverpool 3-0 Wolves
Luton Town 2-1 Fulham
Man City 4-0 West Ham
Sheffield United 1-2 Tottenham
Arsenal 2 - 1 Everton
Brentford 1 - 2 Newcastle
Brighton 2 - 1 Man. United
Burnley 3 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Chelsea 3 - 1 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 12 - 0 Aston Villa (already left for Europe)
Liverpool 2 - 1 Wolves
Luton Town 1 - 3 Fulham
Man. City 2 - 0 West Ham
Sheffield United 0 - 2 Tottenham
Arsenal 4 - 1 Everton
Brentford 2 - 2 Newcastle
Brighton 2 - 1 Man. United
Burnley 3 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Chelsea 3 - 1 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Liverpool 4 - 0 Wolves
Luton Town 1 - 3 Fulham
Man. City 2 - 2 West Ham
Sheffield United 0 - 2 Tottenham
Arsenal 2 - 1 Everton
Brentford 2 - 2 Newcastle
Brighton 2 - 0 Man. United
Burnley 1 - 3 Nottingham Forest
Chelsea 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 3 - 1 Aston Villa
Liverpool 4 - 0 Wolves
Luton Town 1 - 3 Fulham
Man. City 3 - 2 West Ham
Sheffield United 0 - 3 Tottenham
Arsenal 2 - 0 Everton Brentford 1 - 2 Newcastle Brighton 1 - 2 Man. United Burnley 1 - 2 Nottingham Forest Chelsea 4 - 0 Bournemouth Crystal Pal 0 - 1 Aston Villa Liverpool 3 - 0 Wolves Luton Town 1 - 2 Fulham Man. City 1 - 2 West Ham Sheff Utd 0 - 0 Ange Failures
Here we go.
Final game of the season.
Arsenal 3 - 0 Everton
Brentford 1 - 2 Newcastle
Brighton 2 - 1 Man. United
Burnley 1 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Chelsea 2 - 0 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Liverpool 2 - 0 Wolves
Luton Town 1 - 2 Fulham
Man. City 3 - 0 West Ham
Sheffield United 0 - 2 Tottenham
That's a cracker !! π₯³π₯³ππ
A university statistics lecturer is visiting Stair Park having heard a lot about the lack of luck at the world renowned stadium but is clearly worried about the Ultras. When he passes the turnstile security check, they discover a bomb in his possession. Of course, he is hauled off immediately for interrogation.
"I don't understand it!" the interrogating SRA security officer exclaims. "You're an accomplished professional, a caring family man, a pillar of your parish - and now you want to destroy that all by blowing up Stair Park!"
"Sorry", the lecturer interrupts him. "I had never intended to blow up this beloved place."
"So, for what reason else did you try to bring a bomb in?!"
"Let me explain. Statistics shows that the probability of a bomb being in Stair Park is 1/1000. That's quite high if you think about it - so high that I wouldn't have any peace of mind watching the match."
"And what does this have to do with you bringing a bomb into the stadium?"
"You see, since the probability of one bomb being in Stair Park is 1/1000, the chance that there are two bombs is 1/1000000. If I already bring one, the chance of another bomb being around is actually 1/1000000, and I am much safer..."
I remember, as a child, getting my first game of Cluedo and playing it with my family. After a while someone commented that we all seemed to be getting low dice rolls. And we were....and then we realised that the box had included a D3 rather than a D6....
You are getting this wrong, Steve. I enjoy reading the stats breakdown - guessing these are probably more intense than the programmers intended. I don't have the time to sift through it all but I appreciate the time you lads spend putting it together.
Also I don't think anything will change in the programme except the occasional tweak on tactics. Just that I accept the game as it is - thoroughly enjoyable without reading too much into the workings.
Need to get back to clearing the cache on the computer (Edge -Windows 11) or I'll not get back in to do the reviews Saturday. π€
Sorry if I'm spoiling your fun.
There's been one manager who sounded like he's so fed up with the results going against him that he might quit. Another has said he's considering quitting depending on future games. And a third who thinks the coding could be wrong based on what he perceives.
I'm hoping that the stats I'm checking will show that there's nothing wrong with the coding. I admit I moan when things go against me but I always acknowledge when I've been lucky.
However I would never quit because of bad random numbers - like you I'm having fun.
High scoring week this one.
Alon Atie 16
Andy Shaw 14.5
Andrew McCumiskey 13
Paul Cockyne 11
Whilst I appreciate all the stats thrown up (actually I don't) most seems to appear from managers who are expecting it all to run as per their perceived stats.
I have attended games where firstly the referee doesn't perform to his perceived ability and might flash cards to players the form book says he shouldn't. I know I did when I officiated - wasn't done deliberately but outside influences etc can affect your demeanour in a game.
Similarily Haaland is not going to be on the end of every cross - occasionally the ball will fall to a full back who couldn't score armed with cash and a bottle in a brothel. If every attack in SESL was to follow the path that shots ONLY went to main scorers what would be the point of playing?
This is a game and as such will have idiosyncrasies which actually makes it fun.
Generally the better teams WILL win titles and matches, for the rest of us we play hoping to get on the end of a surprise scoreline, all the time trying to better our team. OUR day will come..π³π³
However as there is no midweek matches this week, the recent Blogs and Journals should at least put money into a few teams accounts missing gate monies from not having a fixture..π°π°
Sorry Fran.
I was way off.
Each minute we get the following rolls:
1 to see if there's an injury to your team
11 to see if there's a yellow card (+possible extra for straight red)
1 to see if there's a shot chance
That's 1170 random numbers per game per side
48 teams means 56,160 random numbers per league session.
Plus possible penalties if aggressive players rolled each minute.
And if there's a shot chance: up to 10 to see who gets the shot, roll for offside, then is it on target?, and if so is it a goal?. And the random commentary.
Wednesday matches missing this week has meant more statistics talk?
Let's do the talking on the playing pitch.
Random things in sesl will happen. Randomly.
Saturday comes quick.
Game on.
DEE sends 1 TP to ALB for 110k
Trading still seems fairly active. Generally speaking does trading tail off as trade window slamming shut approaches - or can it be panic mode!?
I know its only a game, but I like a wee bit of planning.
I don't understand all the stats, but enjoy the challenge and waiting on results being available.
No stress from me over shot chance - freak results will happen in a game (and real life) - but the best teams will win their divisions I am sure come end of season.
Still looking for 1 more Tp offers please. Thanks
COW sends 1 TP to ALB for 110k
I've put my first12 games in so far: actual chances are about 0.5 per game below expected but the first game of the season was about -5. And there's 3 stalls. The opposition are worse off so far, two of the stall games were below 0 by quite a bit, but still wins.
I think the problem with using ratio/percentages is if you get 0 shots which scores as 0% no matter what the expected is. Or if you get a shot at very low chances it skews it the other way.
As for these 1 in 1000 occurrences, I reckon there could be as many as 10,000 dice rolls per week...
From Steve:
"I've started on my games for this season recording expected shots (which is the formula without the /90 - fairly sure this is accurate) and actual chances (offside counts as a chance). Where tactics change I multiply by (time used)/90."
I think this is a good way to record the data. I think the right way to think about these games is a binomial distribution where each minute is an independent experiment unrelated to all other minutes with the yes/no being shot/no shot. So recording the shot chance (or expected shots which is equivalent by a constant), the actual shots and the minutes (number of experiments) is sufficient for any analysis you want. Happy to talk more about this (Andy at Motherwell would also be a good guide...we met studying physics in grad school before he went on to biology).
Last 32 ties in Sesl cup have been scheduled.
Neutral field. Penalty shoot out if scored tied after 90 minutes.
Betting is now open at the poll vote area half way down main web page on right hand side of page.
Cup betting STE v ALO match 37, May 22nd
Costs 50k to double money if pick wins tie
ANYTIME goalscorer guess for a free 50k win.
Betting closes 12:00 Wed 22nd May
when 50k deducted from each team betting
NB, if a team goes thru via penalty kick shoot out, then bet still pays out winnings on the team that progresses to the next knock out round.
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But Andrew! You are forgetting that there is a 1 in 300m chance of being killed by a shark or on a fairground ride so that skews the odds considerably
.....I wonder what the odds were of one of us having a University Stats lecturer in the family?? Probably higher than I imagine.
"A total of 4000 cans are opened around the world every second. Ten babies are conceived around the world every second. Therefore, each time you open a can, you stand a 1 in 400 chance of becoming pregnant."
Paul,
Brilliant!
I've started on my games for this season recording expected shots (which is the formula without the /90 - fairly sure this is accurate) and actual chances (offside counts as a chance). Where tactics change I multiply by (time used)/90.
The viewer doesn't show old games so am using GP/DEF/OFF to calculate expected shots. I'm also working out difference and ratio for now - easy to delete the unwanted column.
Only done 4 games so far where both teams were below 100% three times, I stalled in my 4th and my opponents scored 130% in one of their games.
Steve,
I have only ever dabbled in stats but one of my sons is a statistics lecturer at Southampton Uni - I'm happy to ask his advice on this, though there may be SESL players equally qualified of course.
But I think it would be sound advice for you to record the base data unadulterated and I think there are three columns...Shot chance shown on viewer / number of minutes that chance displayed / number of shots. Then we can process that in whatever way experts may advise.
Next season I'm going to keep a check on my own and opponents shot chance percentage : actual chances.
I might even do the whole of my Division - maybe even the whole league -depending on how long it takes each week. Also that's a lot of data.
What I do with the results is unsure as of yet. I don't know much about statistics but did read up about standard deviation.
The advice - if we have an expected shots of 5 and get 6 shots do I record that as 120 (or 1.2) or +1?
If 120, do I ignore the very low shot chance e.g 0.5 but you get 1 shot = 200 or is the +/- idea better?
So after weeks of it being very tight we suddenly have a gap. Albeit just the 4 points. With a winning score of 8 Cowdenbeath can see a bit of day light to nearest rivals Queen of the South, who scored a below average 5.
Clydebank failed to submit an entry and they move down to 12th, However come the end of the season their blank and 2 point entry will surely come off. They are still in it.
Next round is th SESL cup round, you keep what you score so it'a big one. 29th May to wait until for that.
Any issues inbox me and I will resolve asap :-)
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 6 Winners:
AYR(20) COW(20) DEE(20) EF(20) QP(20)
After a few weeks off the Prediciton league returned with a visit to Division 3.
We had a healthy 24 entries and the highest average score so far this season of 6.33.
If it weren't for a Man of the Match performance from QoS keeper,the one and only, Pat Bonner, we would have had 5 perfect scores. That result the only result from all 8 fixtures that didn't go as the punters predicted.
There's much talk about 'freak' results, at Cowdenbeath we seen 2 of these to thwart our progress to the SESL Cup knockout stages. QoS beating Montrose could certainly be viewed in that category.
However we had 7 fixtures go as expected. That's football eh?
Congratulations to East Fife, Ayr, Queens Park, Dundee & Cowdenbeath. 20k each
PET sends 111k to NAI for 1 TP
I can't be certain it's in the current code but in the old code there was a 5% chance of a thwarted attack. This adds to the commentary but also gives the defending player a fraction of a rating. So if you have an 8% chance of a shot then it's 1 to 800 (on a d10000) for a shot and 801 to 1300 a thwarted shot.
I think we play around 860 games a season so 1720 line-ups. I know it's not statistically correct but with that many lineups it's not surprising we get 1 or 2 "1 in a 1000" occurrences.
And yellow cards are checked 11 times as often.
If you have a better team then you are 'likely' to have a better chance of winning. Does it follow then that you are also likely to be more prone to freak results?
If you take it to extremes then consider the worst team in SESL. If they are always the worst of the two teams in any given match then they can only win by a freak result.
Likewise, if your team has better stats at the start of every match you will only lose to freak results.
However, there is more to it than that.
There are some other factors to consider. Who, in your team, gets allocated the shots. If all your 10 shots fall to DFs or MFs that don't have their shooting boots on then you will miss the target more often and the GK will save more often. Particularly if the opposition GK is decent. (don't get me started on GKs)
Generally I like to get my shot chance as high as possible so I like to play with WGs. They add so much more to the chance of a shot that any other position. Others like to have big FWs. They might not add to the shot chance but if they get a shot then they are more likely to score. I'm not a fan of the big FWs method but each to their own.
Anyway, what this means is that sometimes, actually quite often, my team has a bigger chance of a shot but still gets beaten. It's infuriating but I have paid my money and taken my chance.
There are other factors too, like the SL of the GK facing the shots and the one that often gets overlooked as it's rarely mentioned, the number of attacks your team has. This is different to shot chance but you have to have a successful attack before you get a shot. In the commentary you will see things like - Hatchetman stops the intruder at the gate. That was an attack that came to nothing. Your team might well be creating more attacks but these are being thwarted. Just something else to consider.
As for real life, I have witnessed freak results many times. The worst/best was watching my team at home when they weren't very good (most seasons) but they were a cut above the opposition this day. The away team never troubled our keeper but in the second half a defender passed the ball back to him. He looked up to see where he was going to play the ball and in doing so took his eye of the ball which slipped under his foot and rolled into the net. We lost 1-0 that day.
Dave, you say, "In the match viewer - when watching the commentary line by line - there it has an accurate shot chance % minute by minute that seems reasonable when I've watched Viewer."
I can't say that I see much correlation between shot chance and actual shots there - still seems to be a lot of variation to me.
Auction lot, that is.
I trying to be witty. Not lucky. Brave brave bidding.
Magnificent auction arrival tonight.
In the "Nick" of time to turn round DEE fortunes with more than a glance to future squad planning by Eduard..
Poor luck lately Eduard.
Hope that turns. And quickly.
The area totals displayed beside lineup entry for GP DEF & OFF are just a guide only.
However I think you may be calculating shot chance yourself with a spreadsheet and understandably frustrating when the numbers do not fall as you expect (or as you had guessed based on expected opposition lineup mmay be)
In the match viewer - when watching the commentary line by line - there it has an accurate shot chance % minute by minute that seems reasonable when I've watched Viewer.
I don't know the maths, but is low morale and opposition tactics a factor in allocating shot chance?
No, it isn't.
Both work towards the GP/DEF/OFF numbers - which in turn define the shot chances.
So they are already priced in, i.e. the shot allocation was already including these effects.
DEE could try a more "balanced" lineup maybe?
Just 3 defenders listed, and one of them with effective SL of 0. Any team in the world is losing goals with just 2 defenders.
While I even somewhat agree that DFs have some value, even the worst tactic should roughly provide about the shots it is expected to.
And MSWL isn't a "realistic" football sim, anyway. So I don't quite get the "any team" reference.
I have oftenly and somewhat successful played lineups with 2 DFs elsewhere.
Counting Chess as a similar battlefield sim, which general would ever attack with his Queen?
There are obviously some clarifications necessary:
I don't like losing, but I don't care too much about it, anyway, generally, short time. Shit happens.
Actually I find deterministic games rather boring; I'm not much of a Chess guy.
Still, I only find a certain amount of volatility entertaining.
And the rolls I've experienced were often enough clearly beyond that level.
Therefore I haven't complained about the number of coin flips lost by DEE - simply because it's just normal to lose 50% of your flips.
Even 4 or 5 consecutive flip losses are nothing extraordinary - and way more probable than 1:1000.
If you take my freak suspensions vs RAN: they have roughly turned a ~30% into a ~15% chance, maybe 0.5 expected LP lost.
With 3 suspended players DEE still turned out favourite vs LIV - so the actual effect was mostly negligible.
I was only interested in the frequency of these "freak events", given that I saw way too many in just 2/3s of a season.
I may or may not leave SESL after this season, for the discussed reasons, but I am NOT suspicious of any anti-DEE RNGs.
Spot on Paul: -
"can be freak results in your favour just as much as they are freak against you. "
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Previous RAN manager often complained about results against his team - yet was in 7 of the last 8 cup finals π€·βοΈ π
Game doesn't play favourites.
Freak results for and against your team. Over a season, then the best teams are stoll going to be top of their division.
Eduard,
I have the same feeling as you, that there is something awry with the match mechanism. I don't think that the shot chance deisplayed in the viewer corresponds to what the match engine is doing. Or maybe the random number generator is skewed in some way, possibly generating more high and low random numbers than it should.
But in a way this doesn't matter because I don't think the match engine is biased in favour of any particular teams. There are some freak results, yes, but they can be freak in your favour just as much as they are freak against you. It doesn't feel like that, of course, but that's human nature.
Over time, good managers will find themselves at the top regardless of SESL's eccentricities..
I don't know the maths, but is low morale and opposition tactics a factor in allocating shot chance?
DEE could try a more "balanced" lineup maybe?
Just 3 defenders listed, and one of them with effective SL of 0. Any team in the world is losing goals with just 2 defenders.
MIN TEAM MT GP DEF OFF ------------------------------- 1 AYR N 42.00 124.39 154.24 1 DEE N 27.95 97.71 187.76 46 AYR N 47.40 130.89 153.29 46 DEE N 27.95 94.71 184.71
I've recently grown accustomed to some "interesting" numbers at DEE matches.
I have e.g. already discussed some surprising suspensions recently.
This week's match vs AYR, though, showed up with something special.
DEE had a 9.9% shot chance per minute - getting ONE shot in total.
My understanding of the game engine - please correct me if I'm wrong - was that it rolls 90 times and checks each of this rolls against the shot chance.
So, moderately difficult math:
expected shots = 8.91
prob( shots <= 1 ) = 0.000917 !?
Of course, this was slightly modified during the match.
However, given that this is yet another obscure 1:1000 scenario:
Are those numbers common around here? Or what am I missing?
Bring them in to Sesl sometime.
But how do you decide which teams are rebranded name though!
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I don't know much about Scottish Football (or English to be fair) so I had a look at the current tables to see which teams are in SESL or not.
There are 42 teams in the top 4 tiers with 39 of those in SESL. The 3 that aren't are Kelty, Spartans and Bonnyrigg - why aren't these in SESL?
The other 9 teams to make up SESL's 48 are CB (tier 6?), and 4 each from the Highland (tier 5 - BRE, FRA, NAI and DEV) and the Lowland (also tier 5 - ALB, COW, EST and BER) leagues.
Other ex-SESL teams that I remember are BUC and HUN in the Highland league and GRE (now Gretna 2008?) in the Lowland league. I remember ANN replacing GRE and Bill mentions EDI replacing BUC, so COV (who I know is a new team) replaced HUN. Some other teams changed names for season 10 (DEV being one I know from managing them).
EST sends 3 CP to DFA for 3 TP
CLY sends 440k to DFA for 4 TP
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 34:
Hamilton Accies - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWw)
Queen of the South - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 33:
Motherwell - MVP #5: 25k (Wwd)
Airdrieonians FC - MVP #4: 1 CP (WDw)
Nairn County - MVP #3: 1 TP (Www)
Berwick - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WWW)
East Stirlingshire - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Wdw)
You are correct of course -apologies - but you now realise the dilemma us silver surfers face - we have a vote but ....π³π³π³π³
You are correct Dave...
I managed BUC = Buckie Thistle over a couple of periods and several seasons and then i dropped out of SESL. When i returned this time BUC had become EDI = Edinburgh City. I asked Mark if they could return to BUC but he explained that because BUC were no longer in the Scottish top tiers and had been replaced by EDI....i had to stick with EDI.
I guess that was reasonable but i do seriously miss BUC. Strange how we become attached to a (virtual) team from scotland that previously i had zero knowledge of but it is what it is ?
And that comes from an Englishman...go figure.
I am sure Sesl had a team Buckie and also Huntly in the past.
They will have been renamed when teams joined real life Scottish professional leagues.
So SRA aren't neceassarily doomed if they lose the playoff next weekend to try remain in senior Scottish leagues.
Best keep politics out of sesl.
Afterall SNP have a catalogue of failures with Ferry building 7 years late and 4 times the cost.
Conservatives a law unto itself. And imploding.
And Labours Kier Starmer has no real policies at times.
It's like voting on which is the least worst to pick!
....... and lets not even mention Donald Trump.
And what makes you sure we Scots actually want independence? We were run by the SNP plus the Kingmakers (the Green Party, so named as they make the majority of us feel sick). Now the former have divested themselves of the latter, they now have to actually try to control the finances, police, cost of living etc they were voted in to do (not by me!). Likely the ruling party will be Labour at the next election as all others have shot themselves in the foot.
Me? I am a pensioner and any party won't take away our pension rise or free bus passes at a major risk to themselves. It has not changed much in that the majority here do not want to be separated..
Do I earn for this too? I love SESL..
Andrew, I agree, its scary up there, let's give them independence and be done with it....
......nice idea but I am scared of going further north than Gretna. Hailing from Carlisle anything further up I have heard is a desolate waste land of ice bears and sabre toothed Picts. My Grandfather told me and I have also seen all of the Game of Thrones documentaries to prove it. (Stair Park is luckily just 300m further north than Brunton Park).
ooh yes, let's replace SRA and make Andrew manager of the team who stuffed them!
If SRA relegated in real life next week will they be replaced in SESL also?
......not sure we would be that great in the Highland league.......
Yes, I have a few (4,632 to be precise) spare tickets for the Stair Park leg if anyone is interested?
Brighton 1-2 Chelsea
Man United 1-2 Newcastle
Tottenham 2-2 Man City
Bournemouth 2-1 Brentford
Aston Villa 1-1 Liverpool
Everton 2-0 Sheffield United
Fulham 1-4 Man City
Man United 1-2 Arsenal
Newcastle 3-0 Brighton
Nottingham Forest 2-3 Chelsea
Tottenham 2-0 Burnley
West Ham 2-1 Luton Town
Wolves 1-1 Crystal Palace
Forget the English EPL - it's the SCOTTISH LEAGUE TWO PLAY-OFFS next 2 Saturdays.
Bottom team in Scottish professional football play off for their survival against winners of Highland or Lowland
SRA sesl boss Andrew McCumiskey will surely be trying to get his paws on a ticket for the big matches.
East Kilbride FC vs STRANRAER
Battle ground.
Brighton 1 - 1 Chelsea
Man. United 1 - 3 Newcastle
Tottenham 0 - 2 Man. City
Bournemouth 1 - 1 Brentford
Aston Villa 1 - 2 Liverpool
Everton 3 - 0 Sheffield United
Fulham 1 - 2 Man. City
Man. United 0 - 3 Arsenal
Newcastle 2 - 1 Brighton
Nottingham Forest 1 - 2 Chelsea
Tottenham 3 - 0 Burnley
West Ham 2 - 2 Luton Town
Wolves 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Brighton 0 - 2 Chelsea
Man. United 0 - 2 Newcastle
Tottenham 0 - 3 Man. City
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Brentford
Aston Villa 2 - 2 Liverpool
Everton 2 - 0 Sheffield United
Fulham 0 - 3 Man. City
Man. United 0 - 2 Arsenal
Newcastle 3 - 0 Brighton
Nottingham Forest 0 - 2 Chelsea
Tottenham 2 - 0 Burnley
West Ham 2 - 1 Luton Town
Wolves 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Division 3 this weekend. 10 entries in the Notebook so far
Sorry a bit late but here they are
Brighton 1 - 2 Chelsea
Man. United 1 - 1 Newcastle
Tottenham 0 - 2 Man. City
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Brentford
Aston Villa 1 - 2 Liverpool
Everton 2 - 0 Sheffield United
Fulham 0 - 2 Man. City
Man. United 0 - 2 Arsenal
Newcastle 2 - 0 Brighton
Nottingham Forest 1 - 2 Chelsea
Tottenham 2 - 0 Burnley
West Ham 2 - 1 Luton Town
Wolves 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Physio Boost for the very unfortunate Frankie Boyle please.
Given yesterday's SESL Cup result it would seem OLMEC has a twisted sense of humour much worse than poor Frankie :-)
Yes I know the SESL Cup referees were randomised this season but despite playing 3 games all passive, we still picked up 5 yellow cards due to 4 strict refs and 1 fair one.
5 of our T11 (actually 5 of our top 6) are a booking away from a suspension and they all play passive in a third of their games.
DUM sends 2 TP to PET for 220k
STJ sends 5 TP to PET for 555k
MOT sends 275k to CLY for Barry Cuddihy (4/17 MF)
EDI are now done trading entirely for this season...
Many thanks to all the guys that did trade with me....
Again, many thanks folks.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 32:
Clyde FC - MVP #3: 1 TP (Www)
Stenhousemuir - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWW)
Ross County - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWd)
It's back! Prediction League Round 6 is this Saturday
Current Table
MOT sends 110k to BER for 1 TP
BRE sends 2 TP to ALB for 215k
MOT sends 120k to EDI for 1 CP
Looking for them send me some offers
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through :
COV(100) EF(100) HIB(100)
INV sends 45k, 3 TP to EDI for 3 CP
HEA sends 100k to HAM for Joe Hilton (5/12 GK)
Our SESL Cup group ended up being the most even with one match to go. We got the worst leader of the group (points ranked, not personality!!! ;) and the best 5th place (yes US!).
Not easy for FOR, and we haven't been able to get clutch results in the cups lately...
Top class write-ups by Steve and Andrew.
Group of death F was fun. Who was it that said "no hopers" KIL ?
23 out of 32 spots filled for the next round says Andrew, so still a wee bit to play for many teams.
9 teams I guess!
In the first knockout round it's A vs H, B vs G, C vs F and D vs E so I'll do them in that order.
Group A: CLY play HIB for 1st/2nd and HIB need to win by 4 goals to top the group. AI, in 3rd, will qualify unless they lose to DUU by 9 goals and DUM vs ELG is a draw. ELG need to beat DUM to qualify (with that one exception). 3rd/4th, and playing INV next, is anyone's guess. DUU out.
Group H: INV will finish top.QOS and QP out. ALB, HEA and NAI fighting for places and maybe trying to avoid CLY. ALB (7 points and the best GD) play NAI (6 points) with HEA on 7 points with a better GD than NAI.
Group B: MOT top and need to lose to BRE (2nd with 7 points) by 3 goals for the latter to overtake them. STI in 3rd are also on 7 points and play EDI who are out and will qualify but could be anywhere from 1st to 4th. PT play FRA with FRA needing to win, which could take them to 2nd. PT qualify with a draw but need a win to avoid being 4th.
Group G: ANN and ROS 1st and 2nd on 10 points and likely to remain that way with ANN's suprior GD. CEL and GM 3rd and 4th on 6 points and likely to remain that way although CEL's GD is only 2 better. SM in 5th on 3 points can qualify if they beat CEL by 6 or overtake GM with a 9 GD deficit. DEV out
Group C: RR and CB will finish 1st and 2nd, CB need to beat RR to finish 1st. ALO are 3rd and will finish there unless they lose to eliminated HAM and the other game is a high scoring win. DFA play MON with both on 3 points and MON needing to win. To finish 3rd DFA need to make up 5 goals on ALO and MON 8 goals.
Group of death F: AYR and DEE out with "no hopers" KIL in 4th. They play RAN and need to win by 4 to overtake them. LIV are top and can only finish 2nd with a loss to AYR and a STE win. A STE loss or draw and a KIL vs RAN non-draw drops STE to 3rd.
Group D: COV are out. EF have qualified. Very hard to pick who will finish where. FAL play EF and a win means they are through but they can also qualify with a loss. FOR play COW where a win for them also means they're through and a loss doesn't mean they're out (same GD as FAL). A draw is enough for COW and also for EST who play COV.
Group E: STJ will finish top, PET and ABR eliminated. SRA (7) play BER(7) with ARB (6) playing STJ.
We will finish 3rd or 4th with RAN, LIV and STE one of our likely opponents - 1st, 2nd and 5th in T11.I'm gald I only budgeted for 1 knockout game.
By my count, it looks like we have 23 out of 32 spots filled for the next round of the SESL cup already.
Group A: CLY + HIB qualified, AI qualify as long as they don't lose by 8+ or ELG/DUM don't draw. The winner of ELG/DUM qualifies, and a draw sees DUM go through (unless AI lose by 8+, in which case ELG may qualify with a draw as well)
Group B: MOT, BRE, STI all qualified since 4th and 5th play each other next round. PT vs FRA winner goes through, with PT through with a draw.
Group C: RR, CB, and ALO all through. Winner of DFA vs MON through, with DFA through with a draw
Group D: Our tightest group. EF already through, with three of COW, EST, FAL, and FOR set to join them
Group E: SJ, SRA, BER, ARB all qualified
Group F: LIV, STE, RAN, KIL all qualified
Group G: ANN and ROS qualified, two of CEL, GM, SM to also qualify, though SM will likely need to win by 6 to make it OR win and hope GM lose big
Group H: INV, ALB, HEA, NAI all qualified
I didnt spot either, assumed it was standard Saturday double so had both lineups in for Saturday so no harm here. Would have thought at worst most would have been the same.
Lineup in with 4 minutes spare π«£π€£
Who comes up with this stuff anyway π€·
I fear that for the second time this season I have missed out on getting a participation paid out before an auction happened. Apologies to any managers who may have been a few k short on a bid that they really needed (I'm hoping that was not the case, but you never know). Last week a crazy week for my life, but fortunately this week is starting much calmer.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru May 5th:
ALO(50) ARB(25) DUM(45) DEE(50) EF(35) EDI(50) FAL(20) FRA(15) HEA(35) HIB(50) LIV(20) MOT(50) QP(35) RAN(10) ROS(25) STJ(10) SRA(35)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Apr 28th:
ALO(50) ARB(35) BRE(10) COV(10) DEV(10) DEE(25) EF(50) EDI(40) FAL(15) FRA(25) HEA(50) HIB(50) LIV(20) MOT(50) RAN(20) ROS(45) STJ(50) SM(10) STE(45) STI(10) SRA(40)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 31:
Clydebank - MVP #5: 25k (wwW)
East Fife - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
Stranraer - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Dww)
John, congratulations on making the last 32 but remember the 5 teams in your section can all also qualify so need to play out their games, including the ones against you.There are quite a few who have also qualified but they (and I) can either push for the top spot or rest some lads so as to be ready for next Saturday's league games.
Remember the draw is in stone so you can check on your likely opponents in the last 32 depending upon where you finish in the group - see front page (or the rules).
And thanks for an opportunity for both of us to earn participation cash. π°
I nearly missed there was a cup match tomorrow
Odd having already secured a top 4 place in sesl cup group with 2 games to play though
I've looked at a few teams and there's plenty with enough cash and TP to make it competitive.
We won't be bidding.
Everything seems pretty expensive this year - I like the explanation put forward by Dave that perhaps engagement is up.
I also am excited to see the next auction run. If an 0/9 winger is 1100k, how much is that 0/10 UT player of your dreams going to go for???
Kinda gutted to tie with Livingston for the 5/26 MA and so lose, but it was a last minute increase in the bid from 800k.
And we got a much needed DF anyway and some more CP so still good.
No bargains at auction today. Again.
The 1k bargain lot wins may well be a thing of the past for the forseable future.
Over 30 teams bid again today at auction, so bit of competition does no harm.
MOT sends 110k to COW for 1 TP
Does anyone want a shot of reviewing league matches, starting from next weekend?
By changing mid season spreads the wealth out more over a full season.
Volunteers are thin on the ground, despite role paying 100k a week.
Post a blog if you fancy a go, and if you a preference which division to review.
Can try 1 week, or committ until end of season if you wish.
EDI have made 4 CPs available for trade.
EDI are looking for TPs + Cash in return.
Allowing for the recent staggering rise in inflation of the cost of TPs in recent days....any offers will be somewhat interesting.
Oh well...in for a penny...in for a pound ??
I Googled Law of large numbers.
It would still be nice to know if the coding seems to be correct.
Steve, there is no such thing in statistical theory as the law of averages, whereas there is a law of large numbers, as Eduard mentions.
I have considered trying to do some statistical analysis on events in SESL to see whether there is a significant difference between what might be expected and what actually happens...but I don't think that, even if likely errors are identified, anyone can change the hard coding, so really we just have to live with what we have, I think.
If you toss a coin 10 times and get heads every time the chances of getting heads on the 11th toss is still 1 in 2.
I don't understand the stats, but if your calculated numbers noted below are correct then by law of averages there should be no more DEE red cards.
Sadly, that's not how the law of large numbers works.
I haven't checked all Eduard's calculations but can confirm the chance of a straight red card for a player with n aggression and a strong fair (or one that rolls 1 on the 1-30 chance) is 0.0029
As this is not a trivial calculation I'm going to assume the rest of his math(s) is correct.
Eduard, you were just unlucky, but you knew that.
I remember a game yonks ago when I was stalling against one of Colin's sides (I forget which league) and the viewer said 0.0% shot chance. We got a shot - unfortunately we didn't score and the game ended goalless. I did a check and it turns out we had a 1 in 10,000 chance and obviously "rolled" a 1 (or maybe 0 on 0 to 9999).
The turnaround for gameweek 36 was too tight so I didnt run predictions for the gameweek that started on friday.
However we will do it again for the big gameweek next week.
For the gameweek finishing on Thursday....
Alon Atie 12.5
Paul Cockyne 8.5
Andrew Foss Grant 7.5
I agree with Cameron that the random element HAS to be there, or there would be no surprises for us, and results could be estimated long before the game is played.
I can't make too many comments on aggressive referees as I play with aggression in most of my games. I play the game for fun and results - in that order.. π€ππ
Three red cards in 2 matches seems very unlucky indeed.
I don't understand the stats, but if your calculated numbers noted below are correct then by law of averages there should be no more DEE red cards.
But there is a random element to proceedings, and so there should be, otherwisw we can calculate winners at start of season and save us all some frustrating few months!
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 30:
Hibernian - MVP #4: 1 CP (Www)
Brechin City - MVP #3: 1 TP (WdW)
Motherwell - MVP #4: 1 CP (WWw)
Raith Rovers - MVP #4: 1 CP (Www)
Cowdenbeath - MVP #3: 1 TP (wDw)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #6: 25k (Www)
Annan Athletic - MVP #4: 1 CP (DwW)
Inverness - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWW)
DEE's recent SESL cup matches gave me some motivation to check the DP rules in detail.
I am quite new to this rule set, after all, so ...
Match 28 AYR vs DEE Min 8: Shed Seven sing there's no point in shying from the fists that are flying, the boy is on his own! ... ...the Ref is quick to flash a RED ...yip... ...Wilek Borucz (DEE) has a lonely walk off pitch the Bully Boy!... ...What a blow for the Cuban.
LOOSE ref, so worst case is no effect (i.e. ref multiplier = 1 ).
Per player ...
Prob( YC agg = n ) = 0.072
Prob( Straight RC agg = n ) = 0.0029
So, with 2 p and 9 n players, I'm expected to get 0.027 straight RCs per match.
Ergo roughly a 1:40 scenario, shit happens. Nothing too spectacular.
But followed by ...
Match 29 DEE vs RAN
This time a STRICT ref, so assuming worst case, ref multiplier 1.3
Min 65: Zak Rudden (DEE) appeared to throw a punch at Ridvan Yilmaz (RAN) ... ...Nicolas Raskin (RAN) is getting involved now too, this could get ugly ... ...the referee marches over quickly and brandishes Zak Rudden (DEE) a RED CARD!... ...the Scotsman has not been booked yet, so thats a STRAIGHT RED CARD for Zak Rudden (DEE)! Min 69: RED CARD! He's lost it!... ...Jim Camperdown (DEE) swings an elbow at Alex Lowry after a heavy tackle... ...and deservedly gets a red card. Prob( YC agg = n ) = 0.094 Prob( Straight RC agg = n ) = 0.0049 Expected Straight RCs = 0.045
Prob( >= 2 Straight RCs per match) ~ 1:600 !?
This leaves some questions:
Did I get here a very unlikely scenario, followed by an extremely rare scenario?
Or: are my calculations somewhere way off? Is this just another Wednesday?
Thank you for the kind comments.
I will be doing my best on my return. "Legend" is a word I'd run far from as my best in SESL is 2nd place in division 1. Sesl cup fell on me, but I've never really cracked Sesl.
On other notes, yes, I lost 65k on that TP deal. As the Scrooge I am, not happy. π
Cheers all and best of luck
EST sends 4 CP to AI for 4 TP
EDI sends 540k to BER for 6 TP
Many thanks to the teams that made offers. SRA now have enough TP at the higher prices. Will happily buy any offers below $100k if the price drops later in the season.
LIV sends 2 TP to SRA for 220k
Been hard work out here scrounging for TP - I've bid on 8 TP lots across 4 auctions and not won a single one. Been second highest four times and 3rd highest a couple more. Eventually have had to overpay in trades just to make sure I wasn't left short at the trade window (Usually can pick up some for 80-85k late in the season, but with the auction prices as they were I didn't think I could risk this being a season with unusually high demand for TP). I've had TP on the wanted list for probably 5 weeks, have messaged managers individually about TP, and have probably had to spend my year's worth of participation just to pay the extra ~30k per TP. Certainly surprised to see it sell for 88k per TP just now, as 6 of the last 7 auction lots and the last 8 TP-focused trades have all gone for 100k-111k.
If I've just been buying into a TP shortage/price bubble that doesn't really exist that's ok, I think it still works within MOT's finances this season. Can certainly be hard to tell how many resources will end up on the market as the season goes on - but at least MOT's youth rebuild won't be lacking needed TP.
We haven't had a lot of success in auctions in the past season or two, as it seems we've always ended up having to pay a high premium to win anything, so maybe our strategy there needs a re-think if we're ever going to crack through to win a league title.
... about DEE at least.
As happens surprisingly often, I agree with Steve Turner: I know what I'm doing.
COV did certainly get a good deal.
However, I did analyse the market - and did not see a serious chance of getting offers beyond 550k + TPs, barring an unlikely bidding war.
So, gauging risks, rewards and efforts, I'm perfectly content with the results.
If anybody could show me my errors, though: I'm all ears.
Bill never got the memo on current TP values.
Good to see legend Bill back in sesl though. RAN top 3 is impressive as recent seasons RAN focused all efforts in the cups only.
Bill planning an age 0 arrival as has exact amount of TP now in bank. Impressive planning.
DFA sends 4 TP to SRA for 425k
EDI sends 265k to RAN for 3 TP
I am guessing it's the old business adage of "supply and demand"
I needed 3 to complete my new sweeper's training and although a couple of teams had far more than they needed I couldn't get them to sell at previous levels. So I had to up the figure - this lad will score goals for me next season. Hence the lad he is going to replace is up for a player swap..
Amazing how a single bad auction bid + a couple of over priced trades and suddenly TPs are the same price as CPs. especially on the trade boards ??
Go figure.
MOT sends 210k to FAL for 2 TP
HEA sends 1 TP to MOT for 110k
That GK had to play 10 matches - his last two were the 2 SESL Cup games for 1 minute each.
Sack this guy.
Way underpriced....
However anyone who plays in Al Sellers United or TMVL will know Eduard knows what he's doing.
I would have paid more for DEE 3rd choice GK.
Eduard hand may have been forced a bit though as he won a 0/10 GK at auction also so DEE no longer needed a 2nd age 0 GK.
No trade reversal needed I'd say as underpayment is not an excessive amount.
Is the latest trade on blog ok?
Seems a low price to have the misfortune to need play a SL 5, SL 6, SL7 gk etc.
DEE may have made a 25k loss if extra 5 TP slots were used at 25k each. I haven't checked.
If DEE are happy with trade then all good.
I noticed several teams without a decent back-up GK if player was opened up for general sale. Just an observation. I happy to be guided for reasoning about this trade.
Good luck to both teams this season.
DEE sends Frank Barrett (0/12 GK) to COV for 400k, 5 TP
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 29:
Clyde FC - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Livingston - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Ross County - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 28:
Clydebank - MVP #4: 1 CP (wDw)
Dunfermline Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Berwick - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Hearts - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
HIB sends 333k to DUM for 3 TP
EDI sends Elie Youan (4/21 FW) to EF for 50k, 3 TP, Eddie Nketiah (5/12 FW)
......only in the summer though.......the Timezone has probably not been set to Europe/London......
BRE sends 160k to DEV for Devyne Rensch (4/16 SW)
MVPs are also an hour off.
Am I right in noticing that the timestamps on trades are an hour behind regular blog posts? I saw Colin's post and then completed a trade and it ended up behind his post. Maybe something to do with summer time?
I have to confess that I paid over the going rate for TP at auction. We all learn from our mistakes. Mine was to bid on something I did not need. Well, I say I don't need them but it's nice to have them in the bank.
I have had some offers. Fair play to the one manager, who will remain nameless, but offered 555k before removing the offer. If your GK needs the TP and you don't have enough I wish you well looking elsewhere.
Now, here is the real issue, you want TP and I have more than I need.
Minimum bid is 555k for 5. Minimum
I might be able to squeeze out some more but that will be dependent on many variants.
ARB sends 4 TP to QP for 444k
Steve,
thanks for noticing I haven't got a successor as Captain but working on the principle I'm not likely to earn Captain's bonuses, I'll maybe leave it as it is. (Edouard, I'll need the large cash I got for Boyle for some resources for the push next season.) I'll look at your lads, Steve, but buying or swapping in a player loses me an age and then cost for promoting him, so guessing I'll leave alone and keep earning participation cash, as you and Edouard are earning for this too !! ππππ
(Un)fortunately Hibernian don't have any age 5 players so can't allocate a captain anyways.
I'll happily trade Ben Amour, Jerry Armstrong or Mark Durnan for same position and SL age 4, David.
NAI sends 2 TP to MOT for 222k
If my Captain has been retired - too old to play and too heavy to be a ball boy, and the message says to select a new captain, do I still have to pay for one?
I'd clearly expect you to pay - and would complain if not.
You did get the big bag of cash for retiring (including the bonus money), anyway.
If my Captain has been retired - too old to play and too heavy to be a ball boy, and the message says to select a new captain, do I still have to pay for one? If so I think I will save my cash and carry on without one.. :-)
On behalf of Steve and Paul, I would say we appreciate your comment. Personally I do it hoping people will feel they could be at my game. Reports could be more in terms of stats, injuries and yellow cards leading to suspensions etc, but space doesn't permit.
PS all 3 of us are due to be replaced in the 2nd half of the season, but if nobody is in situ for the middle division, I shall carry on reporting on the 11th May. :-)
The double posts will occur when you are using your phone to post. If you post and then do not move away from the blog, the next time you open that window your post will be added to the blog again. Easiest way to avoid this is after posting on blog go to home page (SESL tab at top left corner of the screen).
I recently fell fowl of this on the auction page - another area where you can double post but not so obvious until you bid 699k for 5 TP. The exact same amount I bid for the 0/8 SW in the previous auction.
Anyway, you get double participation bonus so perhaps not a bad thing.
The double posts will occur when you are using your phone to post. If you post and then do not move away from the blog, the next time you open that window your post will be added to the blog again. Easiest way to avoid this is after posting on blog go to home page (SESL tab at top left corner of the screen).
I recently fell fowl of this on the auction page - another area where you can double post but not so obvious until you bid 699k for 5 TP. The exact same amount I bid for the 0/8 SW in the previous auction.
Anyway, you get double participation bonus so perhaps not a bad thing.
The following teams receive retire for cash through :
DUM(156)
I have just returned from Miami - long trip with no internet - and I am wondering if I have missed the boat regarding retiring oldies. I will post in notebook but will hold off clicking the retire now button until confirmation. There is no date and time deadline so I think I might be ok but not a problem if I am too late.
Thanks, Pugwash!
Nice job again on front page Steve, David & Paul.
The following teams receive retire for cash through :
INV(45)
The following teams receive retire for cash through :
ALB(165) BRE(176) CLY(312) EDI(143) FAL(656) NAI(99) PET(40) QP(64) SRA(82)
Remember for retiring oldies this time there is no reqiirement to buy an apprentice.
Can be cash only.
I'll leave window open another 4 hours to post on NOTEBOOK,
and then final payment Monday morning.
ANN sends 3 TP to QP for 80k, 2 CP
CLY sends Colin Meldrum (4/22 GK) to STJ for 6 CP
Appreciate the time and effort
EL boost for Tyrone Mings please
Group A | T11 | T17 | Group B | T11 | T17 | |
Clyde FC | 25.6 | 22.8 | Brechin City | 27.1 | 23.1 | |
Hibernian | 25.5 | 22.4 | Motherwell | 26.3 | 22.3 | |
Airdrieonians FC | 24.7 | 21.1 | Fraserburgh | 26.0 | 21.1 | |
Dumbarton | 24.2 | 19.6 | Partick Thistle | 25.1 | 20.4 | |
Dundee United | 22.7 | 19.5 | Stirling | 23.9 | 19.2 | |
Elgin City | 21.8 | 17.9 | Edinburgh City | 23.1 | 19.6 | |
Total | 144.5 | 123.3 | Total | 151.5 | 125.7 | |
Group C | T11 | T17 | Group D | T11 | T17 | |
Clydebank | 27.5 | 24.5 | Cowdenbeath | 26.6 | 22.4 | |
Hamilton Accies | 26.4 | 23.8 | Falkirk | 25.3 | 22.1 | |
Alloa Athletic | 25.7 | 20.4 | East Fife | 24.5 | 21.4 | |
Raith Rovers | 25.6 | 21.0 | Forfar Athletic | 24.0 | 20.6 | |
Dunfermline Athletic | 23.5 | 19.5 | East Stirlingshire | 23.7 | 19.5 | |
Montrose | 23.0 | 18.4 | Cove Rangers | 22.9 | 19.7 | |
Total | 151.7 | 127.6 | Total | 147.0 | 125.7 | |
Group E | T11 | T17 | Group F | T11 | T17 | |
Saint Johnstone | 26.8 | 22.9 | Rangers | 27.9 | 24.4 | |
Stranraer | 25.8 | 21.3 | Stenhousemuir | 27.5 | 23.0 | |
Arbroath | 25.6 | 22.7 | Livingston | 27.1 | 23.8 | |
Aberdeen | 25.3 | 22.1 | Dundee FC | 26.5 | 22.8 | |
Peterhead | 24.9 | 20.9 | Ayr United | 24.1 | 19.3 | |
Berwick | 24.2 | 19.6 | Kilmarnock | 22.0 | 18.5 | |
Total | 152.6 | 129.5 | Total | 155.1 | 131.8 | |
Group G | T11 | T17 | Group H | T11 | T17 | |
Annan Athletic | 26.5 | 21.8 | Hearts | 26.7 | 22.6 | |
Celtic | 24.8 | 21.4 | Inverness | 25.3 | 20.5 | |
Deveronvale | 23.3 | 19.1 | Albion Rovers | 24.9 | 21.3 | |
Saint Mirren | 23.3 | 19.9 | Nairn County | 24.7 | 21.4 | |
Greenock Morton | 23.1 | 19.8 | Queens Park | 24.5 | 19.9 | |
Ross County | 23.1 | 20.6 | Queen of the South | 22.5 | 18.6 | |
Total | 144.1 | 122.6 | Total | 148.6 | 124.3 |
CLY sends 4 CP, Glenn Abbott (4/14 MF) to EDI for Gordon Banks (4/21 GK)
The following teams receive retire for cash through :
AI(213) ALO(226) ARB(66) CEL(320) COV(429) COW(154) DEE(344) EF(54) FRA(285) HIB(308) MOT(253) RAN(284) ROS(215)
Really good work Paul.
Would it be a pain to re-post with each of the 6 teams sorted in order per their top 11?
The tables below show the T11 and T17 stats for each club by cup group.
Group F is most definitely the group of death, and that with poor old Kilmarnock doing their best to keep the totals lower.
Groups A and G look to be the groups of life...
Group A | T11 | T17 | Group B | T11 | T17 | |
Airdrieonians FC | 24.7 | 21.1 | Brechin City | 27.1 | 23.1 | |
Clyde FC | 25.6 | 22.8 | Edinburgh City | 23.1 | 19.6 | |
Dumbarton | 24.2 | 19.6 | Fraserburgh | 26.0 | 21.1 | |
Dundee United | 22.7 | 19.5 | Motherwell | 26.3 | 22.3 | |
Elgin City | 21.8 | 17.9 | Partick Thistle | 25.1 | 20.4 | |
Hibernian | 25.5 | 22.4 | Stirling | 23.9 | 19.2 | |
Total | 144.5 | 123.3 | Total | 151.5 | 125.7 | |
Group C | T11 | T17 | Group D | T11 | T17 | |
Alloa Athletic | 25.7 | 20.4 | Cove Rangers | 22.9 | 19.7 | |
Clydebank | 27.5 | 24.5 | Cowdenbeath | 26.6 | 22.4 | |
Dunfermline Athletic | 23.5 | 19.5 | East Fife | 24.5 | 21.4 | |
Hamilton Accies | 26.4 | 23.8 | East Stirlingshire | 23.7 | 19.5 | |
Montrose | 23.0 | 18.4 | Falkirk | 25.3 | 22.1 | |
Raith Rovers | 25.6 | 21.0 | Forfar Athletic | 24.0 | 20.6 | |
Total | 151.7 | 127.6 | Total | 147.0 | 125.7 | |
Group E | T11 | T17 | Group F | T11 | T17 | |
Aberdeen | 25.3 | 22.1 | Ayr United | 24.1 | 19.3 | |
Arbroath | 25.6 | 22.7 | Dundee FC | 26.5 | 22.8 | |
Berwick | 24.2 | 19.6 | Kilmarnock | 22.0 | 18.5 | |
Peterhead | 24.9 | 20.9 | Livingston | 27.1 | 23.8 | |
Saint Johnstone | 26.8 | 22.9 | Rangers | 27.9 | 24.4 | |
Stranraer | 25.8 | 21.3 | Stenhousemuir | 27.5 | 23.0 | |
Total | 152.6 | 129.5 | Total | 155.1 | 131.8 | |
Group G | T11 | T17 | Group H | T11 | T17 | |
Annan Athletic | 26.5 | 21.8 | Albion Rovers | 24.9 | 21.3 | |
Celtic | 24.8 | 21.4 | Hearts | 26.7 | 22.6 | |
Deveronvale | 23.3 | 19.1 | Inverness | 25.3 | 20.5 | |
Greenock Morton | 23.1 | 19.8 | Nairn County | 24.7 | 21.4 | |
Ross County | 23.1 | 20.6 | Queen of the South | 22.5 | 18.6 | |
Saint Mirren | 23.3 | 19.9 | Queens Park | 24.5 | 19.9 | |
Total | 144.1 | 122.6 | Total | 148.6 | 124.3 |
I agree - but make it clear whether the retirements have to be announced before the auction that weekend. I thought there was an auction today and was going to wait until after that ran to make my retirements, retiriring a 3rd player if I won something.
Mark, think you are right - perhaps the 2nd retirement date should be a week AFTER MSA so we know the real values of the lads we want to retire, shoot, offload etc etc.
I know I (HIB) have re-done the Notebook entry to reflect the values of the lads going.
STI sends 700k, 2 TP, Darren Hynes (6/5 DF), Jim Leishman (5/4 DF), George Smiley (6/4 FW) to EDI for Christian Dailly (3/21 DF), Joe Cole (4/21 MA)
RAN have won a cup in each of last 5 sesl seasons!
No pressure then Bill :-)
Ouch! Four teams from six are in top 10 of T11. This will be a battle. Good luck amigos.
No idea why I keep double posting. Sorry.
Sorry, I.m lost now...can I trade in my oldies for cash after MSA? That's what I understand but not 100% sure.
cheers folks.
Go ahead and list players to cash in using the now current SL.
Mid season aging has just happened.
Sorry, I.m lost now...can I trade in my oldies for cash after MSA? That's what I understand but not 100% sure.
cheers folks.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 27:
Rangers - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
Cowdenbeath - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Dumbarton - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 26:
Aberdeen - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Albion Rovers - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Livingston - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Stenhousemuir - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWd)
Ross County - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWd)
CLY sends 4 CP to DEV for 450k
Putting in the players for retirement before MSA is counter productive. If the lad is able to be retired now (ie SL12 or less) wouldn't most teams have done it after match 10.
I always assumed you waited for aging for the 2nd one before retiring - you know what you will get - plus I have been waiting for MSA so 2 of my lads will drop to SL12 (or under) - before MSA I couldn't retire them. I only want the money this time. The rule about advertising the retirees don't matter this occasion as there is no need to buy an apprentice. I can't list my 2 lads now as they are over SL12 but they will be on Sunday night. Money money money..
I tend to agree Eduard, BUT the vast vast majority didn't.
I can only see last 2 seasons stats on Notebook-
Season 55: 2 teams retired players before MSA, while 19 teams after MSA
Season 54: 3 teams retired players before MSA, while 17 teams after MSA
DEE's retiring orders are now corrected.
I don't see much point in setting the only retiring sale (without youth acquisition) after the MSA. In almost all realistic scenarios, you'll end up worse than pre-MSA.
Even having to keep a 5/13 is mostly a minor issue since you get more money from every other player.
So I would definitely suggest a pre-MSA sale next season.
Oldies skill level AFTER mid season aging this time.
Refer to blog below: Tuesday April 23rd, 2024 - 23:09:26 GMT
Change was following feedback from managers who wanted opportunity to trade in players who were above SL12 at first round of retiring earlier in season. Ironically the two most outspoken on this now no longer play in Sesl.
Only 2 managers used the BEFORE mid season last time, hence it dropped for this season.
I agree it's a little confusing.
Next season I will schedule it a week or so after MSA so it's more clear the age and SL being cash-ed in.
The "SL12 and under" is hard-coded.
Reason being managers were routinely retiring the wrong player back in the early days.
A manager (who shall remain nameless) retired an apprentice in error this season, and despite best endeavours by myself and software creator Al Sellers we could not reinstate the player
(who ironically was also then nameless!)
So we could see his age and SL in deleted table, but unable to resurrect him (ironically as was around Easter time - Jesus wept). So player history was all lost.
Has "ironically" been used three times in this blog now?
Change SL12? If a handful or more of you wish the SL12 threshold to be upped to SL15 or SL18 whatever, I could do as a one-off next season and review. Speak up now with a blog.
But this would be a manual process by myself to retire your players >SL12 one by one.
the rule is called "Veteran retirements before MSA" so I think everything must happen before MSA including the SL12 rule......??
I do remember from past seasons that we received the player value after aging.
......rules say it happens after game 27 but before MSA.......therefore the current value of the players should be given.......
Thanks Paul, that's buggered up my plans to sell the three useless players who are about to drop to level 12 or less.
Question: why the arbitrary cut-off at SL12? I'd happily get rid of SL13/14 players now (for the same value as SL12) rather than wait until next season for a lower payout.
Cameron - I think I'm right in saying that the pre-MSA level is used to determine an oldie's value
Careful chaps when listing oldies to retire this Sunday.
PET have listed Dalglish as a 6/10, however if you click on the players name in your squad list it says near top right of screen he will lose 5 SL after ageing.
So value to pay out is half that which is noted?
You can say THAT again David
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Thanks Dave, I have for a while now thought my keyboard was needing changed- seem to find an extra d, n, m, added to words on occasion, usually next to words that the letters weren't near the offending extras. You might just have convinced me I need to buy a new one. Cheers, ππ
Chelsea 1 - 2 Tottenham
Bournemouth 1 - 1 Brighton
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Chelsea
Everton 2 - 0 Brentford
Fulham 1 - 3 Crystal Palace
Man. United 2 - 1 Burnley
Newcastle 3 - 1 Sheffield United
Nottingham Forest 0 - 2 Man. City
Tottenham 1 - 2 Arsenal
West Ham 1 - 3 Liverpool
Wolves 1 - 0 Luton Town
Chelsea 3 - 3 Tottenham
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Brighton
Aston Villa 3 - 2 Chelsea
Everton 2 - 0 Brentford
Fulham 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Man. United 3 - 1 Burnley
Newcastle 4 - 0 Sheffield United
Nottingham Forest 0 - 3 Man. City
Tottenham 2 - 2 Arsenal
West Ham 1 - 2 Liverpool
Wolves 2 - 1 Luton Town
Quick turn around with deadline Saturday early kick off
Chelsea 2 - 1 Tottenham
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Brighton
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Chelsea
Everton 2 - 1 Brentford
Fulham 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Man. United 2 - 0 Burnley
Newcastle 2 - 0 Sheffield United
Nottingham Forest 0 - 2 Man. City
Tottenham 1 - 2 Arsenal
West Ham 0 - 2 Liverpool
Wolves 2 - 1 Luton Town
After a marathon 13 games
Alon Atie 13.5
Andrew Foss-Grant 10.5
Andy Shaw 9.5
Paul Cockyne 9.5
Andrew McCumiskey 9.0
David Blair 8.0
Hold fire on too much CP this Saturday chaps, as the axe falls on your skill level after match 27
Sun 28-Apr-24 MID SEASON AGEING
Thanks Dave, I have for a while now thought my keyboard was needing changed- seem to find an extra d, n, m, added to words on occasion, usually next to words that the letters weren't near the offending extras. You might just have convinced me I need to buy a new one. Cheers, ππ
I fink yourd quayboard is coruptie Davide
I did enjoy your use of word "cuffed" though.
A much underused term I shall try incorporate in to chats myself.
I know you said that svhedule doesn't matter as all games are on neitral grounds, but the format will be in the sustem and depending upon whiere your team lands it will kickm out the fixtures.
Will confess I DO look at the order myb team plays their games - hoping to haqve points in the bag before the lasdt match allows resting of players etc before the league comes in again. If I have to put everything on the line to get 3 points in the last SESL Cup tie it leaves the team tired for the resumption of the legaue games. I am sure more managers than myself do check out the order of matches in the group.
IWe play 1 x 1st Division, 2 x 2nd division (including Airdrieonians who cuffed us in the CECIL Cup Quarter Final) and 1 x 3rd division side, so will take that - it certainly isn't the Group of Death.
.....it is all fixed. SRA always play STJ first game regardless.....this is because we need the three points. This year we might change things by deliberately stalling just to test the SESL match resolution engine to its limits.....this is however a dangerous tactic as the patience of our Ultras has only been tested to around 5 minutes before they get to breaking point.
Are each sesl cup group table sorted alphabetically in *reverse* order? Or just a coincidence.
Doesn't matter to schedule as 5 matches are neutral. How have I never noticed this before!?
QP sends 1 CP to DEV for 110k
Easy to find, as HIB first team listed of the 48 David
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I was waiting for a log in for a live draw to take place - ah well, off to check the draw and see what lies in wait for us. π€π€π€
MOT sends 444k to ARB for 4 TP
Advised by more than one when I started was try have three big SL players at each age.
EDI had exactly that with a back bone of three high quality age 1, age 2, age 3, and age 4.
The perfect squad - more or less?
Goals not happening for EDI - but your luck can change but we not even half way through the season yet.
Don't look to me for answers as I inherited a great squad.
but can you trade back the 3/25 and 3/29 given away yesterday?
DEV sends 575k to DUM for 5 CP
match number Wed 1-May-24 28/29 SESL cup group play Sat 4-May-24 30 SESL cup group play Mon 6-May-24 31 SESL cup group play Wed 8-May-24 32 SESL cup group play
click on TABLES at top middle of page
click Sesl Cup to see your group drawn by STE & DUU manager today.
5 neutral matches per team.
Top 4 in each group of 6 progress to knock out stage.
The following teams receive Cup Draw Participation through :
DUU(50) STE(50)
After mid-season aging on Sunday, there will be option to convert old players for cash
(no need to buy an apprentice this time)
See NOTEBOOK to list players you want cash for
players SL12 or less can be cashed in for money
managers will retire players themselves by this Sunday after mid season aging
Managers will post on Notebook (just once ideally) the week before match 27 if they wish.
Detailling the players and value of retiree's with a total.
Commish will add cash in full of the players being retired on the Sunday after match 27.
Unlimited cash is on offer, and any excess cash in value funds are earned by the team.
Again this season: after match 27 there is no requirement to buy an apprentice as just a straight cash-in.
Managers may wish to buy an apprentice though to help season in 5 sesl cup group matches.
Any player age 4+ with SL12 or less is eligable to be cashed in.
Age 4 players at 15k per SL
Age 5 players at 11k per SL
Age 6 players at 8k per SL
Age 7+ players at 6k per SL
Just emphasise what Dave says here.
Cottee has stopped at SL 29. Age to SL 27 then 3 more to SL 30.
Or get him to SL 33 after 10 matches - MSA ages to SL 30.
Even if out of Cecil Cup 1st round it's 8 games at SL 33 plus those at 30, 31 and 32. Then after MSA it's 3 more games at SL 30 rather than 27, 28 and 29.
One additional thing; if anyone is bored at their club, stuck in a rut, I'd always recommend a change of club.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Apr 21st:
ALO(50) ARB(15) AYR(15) COV(10) COW(50) DUM(15) DEE(30) EF(50) EDI(35) FAL(40) FRA(20) HAM(10) HIB(50) LIV(35) MOT(50) QP(25) RR(10) STJ(10) SRA(25)
Many thanks for the kind and supportive words but my love for the game has weakened somewhat over the last season or two tbh.
As a consequence, i really need to do something different with EDI and a rebuild is what i have settled on.
It may well backfire but thats my choice lol.
Again....thanks mate.
EDI are good enough to not be relegated.
Keep the faith Bill.
EDI issue is goals. 2 goals in last 11 matches should have had alarm bells blaring.
FW 2/29 ought be 2/33 many matches ago. He could have won you close games so far this season.
MA Joe Cole 4/25 I'd have had as a 4/35 few weeks ago. He'd win you matches by himself.
42 resources still available to EDI. Pile them on weeks and weeks ago. Drip feeding doesn't often win matches.
Is aim of the game to "save" a handful of extra SL being lost by mid season aging? No trophy for that.
Get the best top 11 on the pitch. Pick and choose games to win (play hard 2 matches, then rest top players even if you have to)
Bulk selling slightly older players will achieve what? Lower top 11 for next season and one after that? Youth doesn't win trophies- it saves 5 or 10 in total SL compared to older players aging. In meantime, a 1/25 will score similar to a 5/25! (Age 1 obviously more valuable as will play far more effective seasons ofcourse).
EDI have very decent age 1 already. Don't trade in more youth expecting a magic wand - but expect not to have enough TP next couple of seasons for them all - so what is the objective?
My HEA are underperforming. But we score in EVERY match bar one this season (when resting for a cup match)
I will offer to swap teams with you til end of season if you have become frustrated Bill? I'd love the challenge of turning EDI fortunes round this season. I'm bored at HEA. I ain't winning anything any time soon.
I happy to swap teams with anyone for this season - then swap back end of season if that is what you wish.
Keep EDI up Bill regardless. Keep your best players and focus resources on FW rather than those DF'ers. You have the backbone of a great team, seriously.
CEL sends 500k, 3 TP, Alex NZiland (4/22 DM) to EDI for Graeme Souness (3/29 DM)
ALO sends 5 CP, Craig Slater (4/23 MF) to EDI for Bernard Gallacher (3/25 MF)
MOT sends 111k to COW for 1 TP
EDI have now accepted that relegation from Division 1 is a foregone conclusion....
As a consequence, any/all EDI players that are currently A3 or older are now available for trade.
With the club only having 18 players on their squad, any transfers will have to involve a player coming to EDI in return + TPs/CPs/cash. Old/mediocre pllayers are fine.
Any/all offers will be seriously considered.
This is a serious opportunity to boost your teams chances in the 2nd half of the season.
Pretty gutted about it tbh. Could really do with some CP at this point. Happy to pay too much if anyone has some spare ;)
Poor luck DEV were 2nd top in a auction lot 3 times yesterday, and two times they were 3rd best bid.
Sometimes 20 teams could bid on same lot so spending 100k more than you wish is not much extra over a season to get what you need.
Wish I had bid on the lot where ARB bid 300k for 4 TP and not the one where they bid 500k for 4 TP!
I didn't expect to win any but was making sure CP didn't go for less than 100k each.
Apart from one lot of TP I noticed prices have crept up above 100k each again despite sometimes being traded for as little as 80k.
Nowt in the auction for me tonight.
Difficult multi bidding on resources as you can't use the same player name so you only win one player then all other bids are void.
With resources I am surprised more teams don't end up winning 2, 3 or 4 lots of resources when they only wanted win once!
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through :
COV(400) EF(500) HIB(500)
,,,been scanning it for the last ten minutes thinking it was a QR code! :)
MOT are glad to be back in the CECIL cup final after a disappointing big loss in the same match last season. During my reign, we have made the final twice before, losing to SRA in a match with red cards and penalties and then losing to RAN last season by a big margin. Is the third time the charm? Or does fiction mirror reality (See the real Motherwell's league runners up in 2013 and 2014, Cup runners up in 2011 and 2018, and League Cup runners up in 2018).
AI are back in the final for the first time since winning the cup double in season 31. Surprisingly, these Lanarkshire rivals have only faced each other once in the past 8 seasons. Looking forward to the battle, Kev!
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 24:
Inverness - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wwW)
Stranraer - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
East Fife - MVP #4: 1 CP (WWd)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #3: 1 TP (Wdw)
Stirling - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Peterhead - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wwW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 23:
Saint Johnstone - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWw)
Motherwell - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
Dumbarton - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wwD)
Cowdenbeath - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Dundee FC - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Www)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
Brechin City - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Arsenal 2-1 Chelsea
Brighton 1-2 Man City
Crystal Palace 1-1 Newcastle
Everton 1-3 Liverpool
Man United 3-1 Sheffield United
Wolves 2-1 Bournemouth
Aston Villa 1-1 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 1-1 West Ham
Everton 1-0 Nottingham Forest
Fulham 2-3 Liverpool
Luton Town 2-1 Brentford
Sheffield United 1-1 Burnley
Wolves 0-2 Arsenal
Looks like a " find Wally" image?
Good job Paul. You've more patience than me to do such puzzles.
I think another option is worth including...."Mike Hernandez" is really Steve Turner
I spotted a little statement in the rules the other day to the effect that a GK's save chance can never exceed 90% or be less than 10%...
I've had a strong feeling that the CB manager isn't really the Mike Hernadez we know and love - the ex-coach of Deveronvale from Season 23 to 32. For a start, Mike never participated much in post game comments and he always uses Argentinian (or Spanish at the very least) player names.
Ask The Manager Vote
Who is really the Clydebank manager (answer in comments)
Poll Choices:
Roll of dice. But Ayr luck may improve later in season - law of averages over a season.
Ayr gone 14 games without a win. I don't see point of CP and TP two GKs when one needs sit out 50% at least.
Ayr need goals. Sludden could be 2/36 FW couple weeks ago, and Willock could have been playing as a 3/36 FW for Ayr. That could of saw some wins.
LIV underperforming too, so I feel your pain this season.
Yet again the keeper is the hero.
Elgin’s keeper Kyle King saves 3 from 3 and earns the MOTM.
Earlier in the season Partick’s Mason McGready saves 4 from 5 and gains the same award.
The similarity is that both were lowly SL’d keepers. 8 and 6 SL respectively. Since when did low SL’d keepers start saving this level of shots to earn them these awards???
Both coincidentally against myself. Losing the Elgin game by a goal and winning the Jags game. Someone said train up your keeper and take risks. Why bother when these keepers are the future. Probably the equivalent of an under 12 playing in the professional leagues and winning ππππ
Not much change here. Cowdenbeath remain top with another steady score. Queen of the South move into a share of 2nd with their win.
The way it's shaping up it's anyones league. The first round scores being so low it's clouding the league table a bit when it comes to the best 7 from 9 scores. Cowdenbeath will suffer as they scored 5 whilst most of the other teams will see 2s, 3s and 4s drop off.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 5 Winners:
QOS(50) SRA(50)
And just like that we are at the 1/2 way point.
Division 2 was the focus, last time around it was fairly middle of the road difficulty wise, same tune this time around again.
We had 4 results that were predicted by less than 50% of the entries. Countering that though we had 3 results predicted as 83% or more. 76% of the Banker choices sat on with those fixtures so a really low scoring round was never going to happen.
Biggest upset of the day was at Clydebank where Nairn came away with a point. 90% had that down as a home win. Well done Ross County who were the only team to mark that result.
The most predicted win was Cowdenbeath at home to Stranraer, the mad cows taking advantage of a tired looking Stranraer after their CECIL cup exploits. 48% had that down as their banker choice.
Also worth pointing out that there was 2 draws, thus keeping the scores down.
We had 2 winners, Queen of the South and Stranraer, both scoring a nice 7 points. 50k each. Both predicted a Dumbarton v Stenhousemuir draw, sperating them from the rest of the pack.
Arsenal 1 - 1 Chelsea
Brighton 0 - 4 Man. City
Crystal Palace 1 - 3 Newcastle
Everton 1 - 1 Liverpool
Man. United 3 - 0 Sheffield United
Wolves 2 - 0 Bournemouth
Aston Villa (AND STILL IN EUROPE!!) 4 - 0 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 West Ham
Everton 1 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Fulham 1 - 3 Liverpool
Luton Town 1 - 2 Brentford
Sheffield United 1 - 1 Burnley
Wolves 2 - 1 Arsenal
Arsenal 2 - 1 Chelsea
Brighton 0 - 3 Man. City
Crystal Palace 1 - 3 Newcastle
Everton 1 - 3 Liverpool
Man. United 3 - 1 Sheffield United
Wolves 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 2 - 0 West Ham
Everton 1 - 2 Nottingham Forest
Fulham 1 - 3 Liverpool
Luton Town 1 - 1 Brentford
Sheffield United 2 - 1 Burnley
Wolves 2 - 1 Arsenal
Arsenal 2 - 2 Chelsea
Brighton 0 - 2 Man. City
Crystal Palace 2 - 3 Newcastle
Everton 1 - 2 Liverpool
Man. United 3 - 0 Sheffield United
Wolves 2 - 0 Bournemouth
Aston Villa 3 - 1 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 1 - 1 West Ham
Everton 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Fulham 2 - 3 Liverpool
Luton Town 2 - 1 Brentford
Sheffield United 0 - 2 Burnley
Wolves 0 - 3 Arsenal
I have most of that data Steve, although probably missing a few for last season.
Has anyone got a count of how many CP and TP have been available in auctions over the past seasons?
The Division only auctions might have lowered the total amounts a little but I feel that as CP has gone above 100k more teams are buying over 35 CP pre-season so the total CP (and therefore SL) in the game might be going up anyway.
BRE sends 140k to FAL for Frank Gray (5/14 DF)
BRE sends 120k to FAL for Stephen McGinn (6/15 MF)
I m working on a blog post about SL-flation - just getting some data together.
Also have 3 more blog posts in the pipeline: Goalkeepers, a jokey Poll suggestion and How to beat Ball Control.
Think I have been top the last 2 weeks - can only put that down to the lads humouring the old man in the game.. :-)
Arsenal 3 - 1 Chelsea
Brighton 0 - 4 Man. City
Crystal Palace 2 - 2 Newcastle
Everton 2 - 2 Liverpool
Man. United 3 - 0 Sheffield United
Wolves 3 - 1 Bournemouth
Aston Villa 3 - 0 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 West Ham
Everton 0 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Fulham 1 - 4 Liverpool
Luton Town 2 - 1 Brentford
Sheffield United 1 - 1 Burnley
Wolves 1 - 1 Arsenal
Are resource prices out of control !?
Poll vote on front page for your feedback on auctions throughout the season that offer resources.
Typically 2CP lots, and 1TP lot on most auctions.
What do you think about CP & TP resources offered at SESL auctions?
What would you change?
More CP at auction
Less CP at auction
More TP at auction
Less TP at auction
Sat on fence / no change
Vote on front page halfway down main page, on right hand side.
A 13 game gameweek for this round
Arsenal 2 - 0 Chelsea
Brighton 0 - 2 Man. City
Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Newcastle
Everton 0 - 2 Liverpool
Man. United 2 - 0 Sheffield United
Wolves 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 2 - 1 West Ham
Everton 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Fulham 0 - 2 Liverpool
Luton Town 1 - 2 Brentford
Sheffield United 1 - 2 Burnley
Wolves 0 - 2 Arsenal
David Blair gets the W in a difficult week to predict
David Blair 8.5
Andy Shaw 8.0
Andrew McCumiskey 7.5
William Bushby 6.5
Alon Atie 5.0
Paul Cockyne 4.0
I tend to agree with DUM (a rare event -Ed). SRA seem to have an historically very strong team today, however there seems to be SL-flation and we are at best mid-Div Two also rans. Where are all these super-strong teams coming from? Are CP and TP now available over Amazon Prime? This is a desparate posting to gain some participation points so that I can afford a new Keeper. My 1000K+ bid in the last auction didn't come anywhere near being successful. When will we see 600SL being the new norm?
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Apr 14th:
ALO(50) ARB(40) CB(10) COV(10) COW(50) DEV(10) DUM(10) DEE(30) EF(50) EDI(25) FAL(30) FRA(10) HAM(25) HEA(10) HIB(50) LIV(25) RR(15) ROS(25) SRA(30)
I would normally have retired a few players for cash and bought a youth player or two but they are all over SL12 at the moment. After MSA will be able to do just that.
Never realised a team was over 500 skill level already. That isimpressive so well done building that so early in the season.
I had a glance at FAL: 25 players though. Even if you rested your entire top 11 that is still 3 players surplus.
18 to 20 players is surely ample sufficient.
Any more than this maybe leaves a fair whack of SL in the stands watching and not even on subs bench.
Is that fair summary?
As I was told by a probably different manager.
Many thanks for the tips, but no: DEE's 29SL GK will get enough playing time. No need to worry.
Cameron, sorry to keep you waiting for these. It's nice to know that someone read them, check back soon.
Topic for discussion - what has happened to DUM?
Prior to season 40 DUM was a force in SESL and after season 40 there has been a steady decline. I have had some personal issues to deal with - not secret issues as I mention them in by bio - and I always thought that real life and less participation was my problem. Probably got a lot to do with it but is it all about that.
I recall the days, before DUM were good, when there was a max total SL of 400 in each squad. I was never in danger of hitting that mark but I use that as a benchmark today. DUM currently has a total SL of 391 which sounds good if 400 is the goal but DUM are 42 out of 48 in the table of total SL. One team has well over 500 total SL.
Have I been sleep walking or have I just become not very good or perhaps something else....
Thoughts please.
This is madness isn't it? 4 GK's (two of them age 0)
Or over endulgance perhaps :-)
I was told strongly by a successful manager in the past to have 2 or 3 years between your GK ages.
Guess this is because one of your GK is going to be sat on sub bench majority of season. So best have one top SL GK that plays majority of matches, and a back-up that will be sub 1 most of time.
Having two GK's at age 0 seems to suggest a SL29 GK is now going to become THIRD choice while the two age 0 are TP'ed up.
Really?
SL29 GK as 3rd choice?
Div 1 front page seems to be posted 24 hours after Div 2 & 3.
Not a criticism as must be a huge under taking.
Maybe do one of the matches at a time and post so far?
When auction is over in half an hour, I not sure how many people are then thinking back to the previous weekend matches, and instead focus on the next session ahead now?
And yes - I will take a shot at writing reviews sometime as won't be easy task - but I feel ought be posted within 24 hours of matches finishing to be most relevant.
DEV sends PJ Morrison (0/17 GK) to ALO for 1000k, 10 TP
Thanks for the hint - I haven't noticed this feature yet.
However, now that I've found it:
A serious info missing is the actual auction round. For (al)most (all) players it makes a massive difference if bought in auction 1 or 10.
STE sends 1 TP, Spain (2/21 DM) to KIL for 67k, Scott Robinson (3/26 DF)
If you click Features near top right of page, then Player Search, then tab within that page to Player Value - you can filter results to see money paid in previous auctions.
Season 55 says 1151k paid at auction for a 0/10 GK
Season 54 says 924k paid at auction for a 0/10 GK
A record high fee surely π€
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 20:
Raith Rovers - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Stenhousemuir - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Nairn County - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 19:
Rangers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wDW)
Albion Rovers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
After this weekend we have a 4 week break until the next round.
I've had a look at the teams bidding on the next auction and reckon there's just 4 with a chance of getting the 0/10 GK. These are teams with 1000+k and that don't have an age 0 or age 1 GK already. And, yes, we are one of them.
Alan....Nearly missed this one....would it be possible to post the dates of the remaining rounds, please.
12 Entries so far
Bournemouth 1-1 Man United
Arsenal 2-0 Aston Villa
Brentford 2-1 Sheffield United
Burnley 1-2 Brighton
Chelsea 2-0 Everton
Liverpool 3-0 Crystal Palace
Man City 3-0 Luton Town
Newcastle 1-1 Tottenham
Nottingham Forest 1-1 Wolves
West Ham 2-1 Fulham
I believe the plural of radius is radii.
No idea why I know this as a Dutchman, but probably because it's kinda ludicrous somehow π
Or Octopussies?
Definitely octopuses. Octopi is the circumference of a circle with radius 4. (Now what is the plural of radius?)
Bournemouth 1-3 Man United
Arsenal 2-1 Aston Villa
Brentford 2-0 Sheffield United
Burnley 1-1 Brighton
Chelsea 3-1 Everton
Liverpool 5-1 Crystal Palace
Man City 4-0 Luton Town
Newcastle 1-2 Tottenham
Nottingham Forest 0-1 Wolves
West Ham 3-1 Fulham
Paul's Jigsaw (fine achievement) reminds me of a tweet I saw today of someone finding a Lego Black Octopus from the great Lego spill of 1997. 4200 Octopus figure went overboard.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/whimsical-legos-are-still-washing-ashore-decades-after-they-were-lost-at-sea-180979580/
https://twitter.com/LegoLostAtSea/status/1778142318580645934?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Maybe recreate the jigsaw in lego for the next project...?
My American friends drop the S on Maths and add an S on Lego. Just crazy. ;-)
It is about the pollution of the oceans. Up the top right you can perhaps make out what may be a whale and there are various other outlines of octopuses (octopi?) and other sea creatures. Also there are pollutants, plastic bottles, oil cans etc. It doesn't ever repeat but all the octopi are identical, though some are mirror images. Which means that I've been able to sort out all the octopi and do them without knowing where, individually, they fit. But nearly there now!
What is the picture?
War and Peace 672/1250
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Apr 7th:
ALB(10) ALO(50) ARB(10) BRE(10) CB(10) COW(50) DEE(25) EF(50) EDI(25) FAL(40) FRA(30) HAM(10) HEA(10) HIB(50) LIV(20) MOT(30) NAI(10) ROS(25) STJ(20) STE(50) SRA(50)
ARB sends 50k to STE for Billy Gilmour (5/9 MF)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 18:
Annan Athletic - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
Airdrieonians FC - MVP #3: 1 TP (Dww)
Falkirk - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Bournemouth 0-2 Man United
Arsenal 2-2 Aston Villa
Brentford 2-0 Sheffield United
Burnley 1-1 Brighton
Chelsea 1-1 Everton
Liverpool 3-0 Crystal Palace
Man City 4-0 Luton Town
Newcastle 2-2 Tottenham
Nottingham Forest 0-1 Wolves
West Ham 3-1 Fulham
Where do you live that the Weathspoons passage to the loo is lined with armed police?
Andrew that looks similar to the long walk to the loo's in my local Wetherspoons pub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57RGGDTHbFA
......good luck lads in the second leg later today @ MOT! The Ultras are with you!
Bournemouth 1-2 Man United
Arsenal 2-0 Aston Villa
Brentford 3-1 Sheffield United
Burnley 1-3 Brighton
Chelsea 2-0 Everton
Liverpool 2-1 Crystal Palace
Man City 4-1 Luton Town
Newcastle 1-1 Tottenham
Nottingham Forest 2-1 Wolves
West Ham 3-0 Fulham
Bournemouth 1-2 Man United
Arsenal 2-1 Aston Villa
Brentford 2-1 Sheffield United
Burnley 1-1 Brighton
Chelsea 2-1 Everton
Liverpool 3-1 Crystal Palace
Man City 2-0 Luton Town
Newcastle 2-2 Tottenham
Nottingham Forest 1-1 Wolves
West Ham 3-1 Fulham
Done whilst watching 2 amazing champions league tiies.
Real Madrid v Man City and Arsenal v Bayern
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Man. United
Arsenal 2 - 0 Aston Villa
Brentford 2 - 0 Sheffield United
Burnley 1 - 2 Brighton
Chelsea 2 - 0 Everton
Liverpool 2 - 0 Crystal Palace
Man. City 3 - 0 Luton Town
Newcastle 1 - 2 Tottenham
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Wolves
West Ham 2 - 1 Fulham
Does the value change if the player is not rough? Like a cultured midfielder for instance.
Is there a definitive price guide?
Value of 1/10 or similar as low as 75k or 100k
2/10 for 30k
No criticism. Just curious.
ELG sends 30k to EF for Jonathan Page (2/10 DF)
Some decent lots this week. 5/27 FW will be useful to some but it's getting even closer to MSA. The 0/9 and 0/7 FWs are great lots but I don't think we need a FW yet.
The age 0 SW is worthless to me - imagine the Albion Rovers game last Saturday where we caught their FW offside twice.
CP will go for 105-110k each and TP for 80-85k
But it's the 0/10 GK. I can't remember the last time there was a decent age 0 keeper. The season I bought Ashley Rie I waited and waited and ended up having to buy a 0/5. This season a 0/5 will cost me 400k and a seasoned 0/10 is worth 100k per extra SL so that's another 700k just for being better than McDowell. Definitely worth 1000k....
Round 4 you would maybe start to see someone build up a little lead but as things stand there's 15 teams still in this.
Cowdenbeath have a 1 point lead but they have been very steady, no high results in there so when the 2 worst drop off other teams will gain ground. For example Clydebank in 2nd place have a 2 that will drop.
On a similar vein Ross county down in 15th also have a 2 to come off. A couple of decent results and they'll be up there.
So more than 100k per round to play for for lots of teams.
Round 5 is this Saturday
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 4 Winners:
NAI(100)
Back to the scene of the carnage of Round 1, Division 1.
When I glimpsed at the results Saturday night I did think we might face 'Carnage II' as there was 3 draws. However the other results seem to have had a fairly high hit rate.
The 5 results all went to plan (for the majority). FRA v GM getting a 100% backing. 48% also had that down as their banker result.
That led to an average score of 5.32, highest of the league up till now.
We had a single winner this week, Nairn scoring a very decent 7 points. They predicted 2 from 3 of the draws.
We then had 11 teams scoring 6. 100k to Nairn.
I've said it a few times this season - it is the least predictable division and has featured some cracking matches. Makes it interesting for the reviewer - wait a minute - that's me!! ππππ
A shared win for David Blair and Paul Cockyne whilst I get the wooden spoon.
David Blair 10.5
Paul Cockyne 10.5
Andrew McCumiskey 8.5
Andy Shaw 7.0
Andrew Foss-Grant 6.5
William Bushby 5.5
Alon Atie 5.0
Is random draw planned for apprentice upgrade this season?
I forgot to do it this week - would have got 5 or 6 points depending on banker but I remembered the draw being 3 or X debate.
Back when my dad used to do the Pools he would do "perm 8 from 10". You pick 10 matches and put an X for games you thought would end up as score-draws which were worth 3 points. Home wins were worth 1 point, away wins 1½ and 0-0 were 2 points. There are 45 combinations of picking 8 games from 10 so it cost 45p per line. 24 points was a share of the jackpot.
Anyway that's where the X=3 comes from if you didn't realise.
There are indeed some huge star players and fantastic squads in this Division - no easy games and the teams winning promotion this season will know they have had a tough season and will be fully deserving of their success!
FOR sends 155k to EF for Arnaut Danjuma (5/16 WG)
Maybe I should be offering ALB a short-term trade for that GK of his... Seems like SRA enjoyed the challenge last time.
.... before watching their matches on viewer, or clicking their own team results?
What is spoiler button for?
Sorry if I being daft π€·π
......are buoyed knowing that the latest opposition's Keeper is 10SL less than last week's......
Some of the reaults this season are brilliant. There's some powerful squads starting to climb. Dans hitting f9rm now. Some bug T11s and T17s outside the top few. Keeps it interesting.
Well done to our current division 2 leaders. Interested to see who takes top spot into the SESL Cup break in a few weeks.
Pathetic by my forward line
50% stall with an SL 5 GK needing a draw for an MVP against a 6% shot chance and SL 35+ FW.
Yep - we got the draw.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 16:
Saint Johnstone - MVP #3: 1 TP (WwW)
Arbroath - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wDW)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
East Fife - MVP #3: 1 TP (wWw)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 15:
Hearts - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Fraserburgh - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWW)
Airdrieonians FC - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Dww)
Hibernian - MVP #3: 1 TP (WDw)
Annan Athletic - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Brentford
Brighton 1 - 3 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 0 - 2 Man. City
Everton 2 - 1 Burnley
Fulham 1 - 1 Newcastle
Luton Town 2 - 2 Bournemouth
Man. United 0 - 1 Liverpool
Sheffield United 0 - 1 Chelsea
Tottenham 2 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Wolves 1 - 1 West Ham
EPL Predictions
Aston Villa 3 - 2 Brentford
Brighton 0 - 3 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 1 - 3 Man. City
Everton 2 - 2 Burnley
Fulham 1 - 2 Newcastle
Luton Town 3 - 2 Bournemouth
Man. United 1 - 1 Liverpool
Sheffield United 1 - 2 Chelsea
Tottenham 3 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Wolves 1 - 1 West Ham
Aston Villa 3 - 1 Brentford
Brighton 1 - 2 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 0 - 3 Man. City
Everton 2 - 1 Burnley
Fulham 2 - 2 Newcastle
Luton Town 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Man. United 1 - 2 Liverpool
Sheffield United 1 - 2 Chelsea
Tottenham 3 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Wolves 2 - 2 West Ham
Aston Villa 3-0 Brentford
Brighton 1-3 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 1-2 Man City
Everton 2-1 Burnley
Fulham 1-1 Newcastle
Luton Town 2-1 Bournemouth
Man United 1-3 Liverpool
Sheffield United 1-3 Chelsea
Tottenham 3-0 Nottingham Forest
Wolves 1-1 West Ham
Despite only managing 1 correct out of 5 on Tuesday I somehow managed to claw back for a W.
Alon Atie 9.5
Andy Shaw 9.0
Cameron Archibald 8.5
Andrew McCumiskey 8.0
Mike Hernandes 6.5
Andrew Foss Grant 6.5
John McCarthy 5.5
William Bushby 4.0
Aston Villa 2-0 Brentford
Brighton 1-3 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 1-2 Man City
Everton 1-1 Burnley
Fulham 1-1 Newcastle
Luton Town 2-1 Bournemouth
Man United 1-3 Liverpool
Sheffield United 1-3 Chelsea
Tottenham 3-0 Nottingham Forest
Wolves 1-0 West Ham
Aston Villa 2 - 2 Brentford
Brighton 0 - 2 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 1 - 3 Man. City
Everton 0 - 1 Burnley
Fulham 1 - 2 Newcastle
Luton Town 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Man. United 1 - 3 Liverpool
Sheffield United 0 - 2 Chelsea
Tottenham 4 - 1 Nottingham Forest
Wolves 1 - 1 West Ham
Division 1 this weekend. Only 5 entries so far.
I don't follow football that much but Nottingham Forest (Nottm Forest or simply Forest but NEVER Notts Forest) seem to be being penalised for trying to stay in the the Premiership because they made a loss in the first season after being promoted. It wasn't so much transfer fees, David, but an overall loss over the three seasons.
I don't know the Man City situation but we can't have them losing points can we? Much bigger team than Forest so need all the help they can get.
STJ "We need to despise our bogey team SRA and despise everything they stand for ;-)" (Written before the Hamza Hate Crimes Bill so its perfectly fine -Ed)
The SRA Ultras are still perplexed as to why they are not facing the Saints in the next round of the cup? Some had already booked their overnight accommodation in St Johnstone Police cells.......
Been away so probably got this wrong but it seems to me the powers that be that run football below the Scottish border are looking at ways to NOT deduct points from clubs happy to flaunt transfer fees. (ie smack Notts Forest and Burnley with a deduction in points but just take away some pocket money from others - Man City comes to mind).
Their reasoning? It would take away the standing of the EPL (Greed is God League err Good) in world football and restrict the clubs from bringing in the best players - strangling the game so to speak. Good for the criminals (Man City etc) rough on the teams who struggle to get points to deduct.
Might have dreamed the whole thing - after all Monday was April 1st.. BUT....π‘π‘π‘
(Do I earn cash for this? π°π°πππ³π³)
ARB sends 40k to STJ for Ali Crawford (4/4 MF)
STJ sends Drey Wright (5/18 MF) to NAI for 250k
Due to the incredibly tight turnaround with the next round starting on Saturday afternoon I am putting out the predictions for GW32 before scoring GW31. I need to get some sleep now, but will score and post GW31 tomorrow.
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Brentford
Brighton 1 - 2 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 0 - 2 Man. City
Everton 2 - 1 Burnley
Fulham 2 - 1 Newcastle
Luton Town 1 - 2 Bournemouth
Man. United 1 - 2 Liverpool
Sheffield United 0 - 2 Chelsea
Tottenham 2 - 0 Nottingham Forest
Wolves 2 - 1 West Ham
Last 8 of cecil cup scheduled now
Remember match 17 is Monday 8th April, and match 18 is Wednesday 10th April.
Scroll down front page a bit and beside Auction listing and Prediction league entry link and you'll see a new column showing random "TEAM NEEDS"
On your own team page you can click UPDATE INFO and add in your team needs if you wish.
Near where you can add or remove team rivals.
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STJ
April:24 We need to despise our bogey team SRA and despise everything they stand for ;-)
A wad of oldies been cashed in last week, when 4/12 etc may still do a job for some teams.
I am curious to see if TP will increase in value this season, given there may be increase in apprentices being purchased.
Unsure how much the wanted list is perused, i added that we are looking to purchase an older MF. Have cash and some spare TPs for anyone looking to offload.
Transfer market is quiet
At work my breaks are 12.30 to 1.00 and 3.00 to 3.15 so Wednesday breaks were spent watching SFLSL (K.O. 12) and SESL. But now I have to wait until 3 for SFLSL and after work for SESL - disastrous!
Tighter than a... in fact let's not go there.
With loads of low scores still plenty to play for.
Round 4 is this Saturday, back to Division 1. Will it be carnage again? Notebook entries open.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 3 Winners:
ARB(25) DEE(25) EF(25) SRA(25)
No talk of ducks in this week's blog....
We nearly had s set of results that are impossible to pick. Only Queen of the South drawing at Berwick prevented 8 home wins. A set of prediction that would have been against the rules.
Ironically 3 of those home wins were against the odds, therefore not the easy pick.
Average score was reasonably low again this week, albeit higher than the previous weeks with an average of 5.2
Onto our winners, we had a 4 each scoring a nice 7 points. Well done to Stranraer, East Fife,Dundee & Arbroath, 25k each.
Sat down with a brew ready to watch Cecil cup 2nd legs unfold slowly on the viewer.....
Why are clocks being changed in this day and age?
Can't the flipping farmers just sow their seeds of whatever 1 hour different, rather than whole country change clocks.
Sigh :-)
Yes, some excellent stuff. Although, I confess to reading them more often when SRA win. When we lose I tend to shutdown the laptop, ripout the cable and take it down the bottom end of the garden and add it to the weekly bonfire. I have purchased 26 new laptops in recent times and missed many a good read........
Enjoying the divisional write ups this week.
Well done Steve, David & Paul.
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Crystal Palace Arsenal 2 - 0 Luton Town Brentford 1 - 0 Brighton Burnley 0 - 2 Wolves Nott Forest 0 - 1 Fulham West Ham 1 - 1 Tottenham Chelsea 1 - 2 Man. United Newcastle 2 - 0 Everton Liverpool 4 - 0 Sheffield United Man. City 2 - 10 Aston Villa
Bournemouth 0 - 0 Crystal Palace Arsenal 2 - 0 Luton Town Brentford 1 - 1 Brighton Burnley 0 - 2 Wolves Nott Forest 1 - 1 Fulham West Ham 1 - 2 Tottenham Chelsea 1 - 2 Man. United Newcastle 1 - 0 Everton Liverpool 4 - 0 Sheffield United Man. City 2 - 0 Aston Villa
Bournemouth 2-0 Crystal Palace
Arsenal 2-1 Luton Town
Brentford 2-1 Brighton
Burnley 1-1 Wolves
Nottingham Forest 1-0 Fulham
West Ham 2-3 Tottenham
Chelsea 1-1 Man United
Newcastle 2-0 Everton
Liverpool 4-0 Sheffield United
Man City 2-1 Aston Villa
Bournemouth 1 - 1 Crystal Palace Arsenal 5 - 1 Luton Town Brentford 1 - 2 Brighton Burnley 1 - 1 Wolves Nott Forest 1 - 1 Fulham West Ham 1 - 3 Tottenham Chelsea 2 - 2 Man. United Newcastle 4 - 0 Everton Liverpool 5 - 0 Sheffield United Man. City 3 - 0 Aston Villa
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Mar 31st:
ALO(50) ARB(50) AYR(25) BRE(10) COW(50) DEE(50) EF(50) EDI(35) FAL(25) FRA(30) HAM(10) HEA(10) HIB(50) KIL(10) LIV(45) MOT(50) QP(30) ROS(25) STJ(10) SM(25) STE(40) SRA(10)
War & Peace 600/1215
ROS sends 80k, 1 CP to EDI for 2 TP
OK, so I need to re-think my auction bidding strategy.
I wasn't even in the running for any lot.
Even resources went for a huge level.
INV maybe paid over the odds for CP, but Josh has upto 7 players all seeking more CP, so I think INV will be happy enough to secure something INV can make use of.
In summary:-
not seeing any bargains in the auction results today.
Bournemouth 0 - 1 Crystal Palace Arsenal 2 - 0 Luton Town Brentford 1 - 0 Brighton Burnley 0 - 1 Wolves Nott Forest 0 - 1 Fulham West Ham 1 - 1 Tottenham Chelsea 1 - 1 Man. United Newcastle 4 - 0 Everton Liverpool 5 - 0 Sheffield United Man. City 3 - 0 Aston Villa
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Crystal Palace Arsenal 4 - 0 Luton Town Brentford 1 - 2 Brighton Burnley 0 - 1 Wolves Nott Forest 1 - 0 Fulham West Ham 1 - 2 Tottenham Chelsea 1 - 2 Man. United Newcastle 3 - 0 Everton Liverpool 4 - 0 Sheffield United Man. City 2 - 0 Aston Villa
Bournemouth 1 - 1 Crystal Palace
Arsenal 3 - 0 Luton Town
Brentford 1 - 2 Brighton
Burnley 0 - 1 Wolves
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Fulham
West Ham 2 - 1 Tottenham
Chelsea 1 - 1 Man. United
Newcastle 2 - 1 Everton
Liverpool 4 - 0 Sheffield United
Man. City 3 - 1 Aston Villa
Very quick turnaround with the next round starting on Tuesday night.
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Arsenal 2 - 0 Luton Town
Brentford 1 - 1 Brighton
Burnley 1 - 2 Wolves
Nottingham Forest 1 - 1 Fulham
West Ham 1 - 2 Tottenham
Chelsea 2 - 1 Man. United
Newcastle 2 - 1 Everton
Liverpool 3 - 0 Sheffield United
Man. City 2 - 0 Aston Villa
Big win for Bryce Kalenbach who smoked the field.
Bryce Kalenbach 13
Andrew Foss-Grant 10.5
Alon Atie 8.5
William Bushby 7.5
David Blair 7.0
Andy Shaw 6.5
Andrew Mccumiskey 6.0
Les Lithgo 5.5
Cameron Archibald 5.0
Paul Cockyne 3.0
I see what you did there. Tickled my fancy.
Good auction write up.
I think lots 2, 3 & 4 will go for nearer double 400k.
30 teams bidding so far. That must be near record levels.
I think either spelling is OK, John
Just noticed there hasn't been one so here's my 50k take.
5/28 DF with 8 league games to mid-season he'll be useful for a while. Expect to pay 600k
4/25 SW or as I think of him 4/20 DF meh! 200k?
3/23 MF would just about make my squad. 200k
2/19 FW not too shabby if you have spare CP but not doing much this season 200k
1/15 MF if you have TP to spare you might get him for 400k
0/10 MA the star of this auction - you'll need to bid 922k ti have a chance
0/10 MF almost as good and you'll need 922k if I don't win the MA possibly
0/9 MF I've died and gone to heaven - probably 900k
0/8 WG a dream buy for any team and perfect marking fodder for Alloa in a couple of seasons 800k
8 CP 920k
7 CP 800k
7 TP 500k (I hope)
STE sends 1 TP to HIB for 90k
SM sends 200k, 3 TP to HIB for Will Fish (4/21 DF)
Ageing tables maybe never as strict as now back in season 3?
Maybe never had mid season ageing?
What does "P/M" mean on that squad example below?
Lastly, is it aging or ageing!?
Season 3 squad below. You can see PU 10
I actually think the 10PU rule might have come in for Season 3 (I'll check), but by that time these super-hu.an players were already here.
Imagine scoring against Rae! And he reached SL53 in season 3! π«
Ahh. I thought the 10 PU limit was always in force - just not for adding Captain's bonuses.
Looking at History, HIBs scored 128 league goals in Season 4 though it doesn't say who was the leading goal scorer.
Since there is no edit option ...
TBC
the "silly" SL30+ aging rules
are ofc only "silly" for age 0 players
How on Earth was a 1/51 GK and 3/56 MF created?
Not too difficult at all. Just put all 40+ TPs on a single player - and similarly a huge chunk of CPs: without PU limit, mission accomplished.
It's exactly what I would have done, so it takes no genius.
I actually stumbled about the "silly" SL30+ aging rules - which are quite likely a relic of the pre-PU days.
ARB sends Kenan Dunnwald-Turan (6/18 FW) to PET for 230k
Total SL is less than 400, which used to be a rule until season 16 (I joined in season 13)
T11? 25.7 which 31 current SESL teams can beat.
How on Earth was a 1/51 GK and 3/56 MF created?
ARB sends 105k to LIV for Mo Sangare (1/10 MF)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 12:
Aberdeen - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Rangers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Clyde FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DWw)
Stenhousemuir - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Saint Mirren - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
Hibernian - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (Wwd)
Dumbarton - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Clydebank - MVP #3: 1 TP (wwW)
Stirling - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwD)
East Fife - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Hib's Lovell scored 53 goals from 58 shots.
And now I'd be happy with 3 goals from 58 shots.... And he did it in 37 games...
Maybe defences weren't great then, and OLMEC altered the shots ratio/goals and thereby boosted the defence stats - hope so!
Amazing find from archives Ricky.
Lovell scored 53 goals from 58 shots.
Utter madness.
Its funny really that its become legend-status, but those beast players were ridiculously hard to deal with, its true.
I actually think squad total SLs were lower and average SLs were lower than what we have now. But when weighted to key players it was killer.
Imagine going up against Lovell in season 2!!
Division 3 today
Bournemouth 1 - 1 Everton
Aston Villa 1 - 1 Wolves
Brentford 1 - 1 Man. United
Chelsea 3 - 0 Burnley
Liverpool 3 - 1 Brighton
Man. City 2 - 1 Arsenal
Newcastle 2 - 2 West Ham
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Sheffield United 1 - 2 Fulham
Tottenham 2 - 1 Luton Town
David, you are correct. It was the 10 PU maximum that Mark introduced that caused him to rage quit.
As I recall it he threw the toys out of the pram when a rule change came in. Can't remember the specifics, it was 20+ years ago now!
Probably was a rule to prevent such high SLs being achievable.
Where is he now?
Dominated at HIB, but I think he may have managed other teams also?
I nearly always have 18 players maximum due to the 50% rule but I can get a bit of cash for the extra players.
Commish Mark told me about Michael Fant who had a high SL player as Captain and, in the early days, a captain's bonus didn't count as PU. I don't recall how high he got.
Bournemouth 2 - 0 Everton
Aston Villa 3 - 1 Wolves
Brentford 1 - 1 Man. United
Chelsea 3 - 0 Burnley
Liverpool 2 - 1 Brighton
Man. City 2 - 2 Arsenal
Newcastle 2 - 2 West Ham
Nottingham Forest 1 - 0 Crystal Palace
Sheffield United 0 - 2 Fulham
Tottenham 2 - 1 Luton Town
Noted ;-)
Roster size has even negative effects at some point.
I'm regularly cursing about the #19+ numbers when tuning for 51% blowout protection.
It is quite easy to get a SL40 player, if you start with a 0/10 - or even easier with the superstar upgrade.
"Back when" I played MSWL rules before, it was even easier to create monsters via the MVP rules. My star was 1/36 - so he would have easily surpassed 40 SLs, if I had continued playing.
You won't have to wait too long to see a SL39 GK in ALB's Gracie. Glad to see that if MOT progress in the cup we will likely have that monster of a GK next.
18 is the minimum allowed although it's possible to retire players down to 17.
17 is the minimum useful based on 11 players losing 6 EL per game (=66) and needing 17 players at +4 each to gain 68. 16 would only regain 64.
Certainly possible but I'm not sure I've seen one in SESL. Although I'm sure Yoav Haberman had an SL 40 GK in SaSo. And back then you only lost 7 EL playing aggressive and an SL 40 GK would save at SL 50.
What is the prime squad size of players?
I see three teams with 24 players, and four teams with 23 players.
I have 18, with 2 pending offers. Is 16 players ample sufficient? I plan to add an auction players soon and also an apprentice to help cover suspensions later in season.
But AYR haven't made him 36. Yet. That seems to be his point. If you wait until after mid season again then he would never peak at 36SL either.
The time you do spend 10CP on GK (if you do) then majority of season will be past,
so less games to benefit from a monster GK.
LIV have their own struggles, so I don't think it criticism, but more an observation.
Incidentally, what is highest skill level ever reached in Sesl?
Has anyone ever made 40SL!?
John (Liv)
we are 12 games into the season how do you I am not going to ?????
AYR 3/36 GK....
AYR have played 10 matches so could have got his top GK to 3/36.
Being a "steady Eddie slave" to mid season aging tables will not win you trophies.
A 3/36 GK today and AYR would likely be mid table and continue to move upwards.
Teams who repeatedly stop resources at SL19 or SL29 just tread water season after season. It's a game. Take a chance.
LIV results are frustrating so far, so I share your pain Paul. Going aggressive and dirty and next you'll maybe have grief of too many cards or penalties!
You cannot control the randomness of the results at times, but you alone have decided to be cautious and not to add another 7CP on your GK.
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Everton
Aston Villa 2 - 0 Wolves
Brentford 1 - 3 Man. United
Chelsea 4 - 0 Burnley
Liverpool 3 - 1 Brighton
Man. City 2 - 2 Arsenal
Newcastle 4 - 1 West Ham
Nottingham Forest 1 - 2 Crystal Palace
Sheffield United 1 - 2 Fulham
Tottenham 3 - 0 Luton Town
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Mar 24th:
AI(10) ALO(50) ARB(30) BRE(50) COV(10) DUM(15) DEE(40) DUU(35) EF(50) EDI(35) FAL(20) HEA(10) HIB(50) LIV(20) MOT(50) RAN(15) ROS(50) STJ(20) SM(25) STE(50) SRA(35)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 11:
Motherwell - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
War and Peace 554/1215
Bournemouth 1-0 Everton
Aston Villa 1-0 Wolves
Brentford 2-1 Man United
Chelsea 1-0 Burnley
Liverpool 3-0 Brighton
Man City 2-1 Arsenal
Newcastle 3-2 West Ham
Nottingham Forest 1-0 Crystal Palace
Sheffield United 0-2 Fulham
Tottenham 1-1 Luton Town
Scotland gone 7 games without a win now after tonight's defeat to lowly Norn Ireland.
Boss Steve Clarke a victim of his own success as expectations are far higher now.
Roll on the summer Euros. Might be watching TV from behind the sofa at times though.
Steve, like you, I hope Alan meant Duck's ... :-)
Bournemouth 1-3 Everton
Aston Villa 3-1 Wolves
Brentford 0-4 Man United
Chelsea 2-2 Burnley
Liverpool 5-0 Brighton
Man City 2-1 Arsenal
Newcastle 1-1 West Ham
Nottingham Forest 2-3 Crystal Palace
Sheffield United 2-1 Fulham
Tottenham 2-0 Luton Town
Yes I think you're right Steve π€£ classic.
I think that should say "duck's" :-)
War and Peace 554/1215
Clydebank bouncing back from a week 1 score of 2.
Tighter than a dicks a***, as you would expect at this stage.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 2 Winners:
CB(100)
It was another tough one in Round 2 of the Prediction league. As a few have pointed out on the blog Division 2 has a handful of quality sides in there so competition is going to be fierce.
We had an average score of 4.84, not anywhere near the carnage of Round 1 (3.09) but still pretty low.
Our first 3 results all produced shocks, Cove Rangers winning away to Airdrie and Dundee drawing at Ayr, we then had another draw with Annan upsetting Elgin.
Despite all that we did have a clear winner with an impressive 8 points. Well played Clydebank, 100k on it's way. The Dundee v Ayr draw the only result to stop the perfect score.
This Saturday see Round 3 with Division 3 the focus. Notebook Entries are how open
Bournemouth 1-2 Everton
Aston Villa 1-0 Wolves
Brentford 0-4 Man United
Chelsea 2-0 Burnley
Liverpool 3-0 Brighton
Man City 2-2 Arsenal
Newcastle 1-2 West Ham
Nottingham Forest 1-0 Crystal Palace
Sheffield United 1-2 Fulham
Tottenham 2-0 Luton Town
Bournemouth 1-2 Everton
Aston Villa 10-0 Wolves
Brentford 1-2 Man United
Chelsea 2-0 Burnley
Liverpool 3-0 Brighton
Man City 2-1 Arsenal
Newcastle 1-2 West Ham
Nottingham Forest 1-1 Crystal Palace
Sheffield United 1-2 Fulham
Tottenham 3-0 Luton Town
Bournemouth 1-2 Everton
Aston Villa 1-2 Wolves
Brentford 1-2 Man United
Chelsea 3-0 Burnley
Liverpool 1-0 Brighton
Man City 3-1 Arsenal
Newcastle 1-1 West Ham
Nottingham Forest 1-2 Crystal Palace
Sheffield United 1-3 Fulham
Tottenham 3-2 Luton Town
ABE sends 20k, 1 TP to GM for Petri Kolari (5/13 GK)
Bournemouth 1-2 Everton
Aston Villa 1-0 Wolves
Brentford 0-2 Man United
Chelsea 3-1 Burnley
Liverpool 3-0 Brighton
Man City 2-0 Arsenal
Newcastle 1-2 West Ham
Nottingham Forest 1-1 Crystal Palace
Sheffield United 1-2 Fulham
Tottenham 3-0 Luton Town
Sorry guys but I have been on a bit of a sabatical with the EPL predictions.
Nontheless we have a full round of fixtures this weekend after the international break which seems a great time to get restarted.
Bournemouth 2 - 1 Everton
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Wolves
Brentford 1 - 2 Man. United
Chelsea 2 - 0 Burnley
Liverpool 2 - 0 Brighton
Man. City 2 - 1 Arsenal
Newcastle 2 - 1 West Ham
Nottingham Forest 2 - 1 Crystal Palace
Sheffield United 0 - 2 Fulham
Tottenham 2 - 0 Luton Town
AYR have played 10 matches so could have got his top GK to 3/36.
Being a "steady Eddie slave" to mid season aging tables will not win you trophies.
A 3/36 GK today and AYR would likely be mid table and continue to move upwards.
Teams who repeatedly stop resources at SL19 or SL29 just tread water season after season. It's a game. Take a chance.
LIV results are frustrating so far, so I share your pain Paul. Going aggressive and dirty and next you'll maybe have grief of too many cards or penalties!
You cannot control the randomness of the results at times, but you alone have decided to be cautious and not to add another 7CP on your GK.
A little aggression is fine - the game is about enjoyment not acting like robots putting out teamlines with the same format, tactics, and all on "n".
So a suspension or 6 comes up - happens in real life and we get over them. A return to fining teams going over 200DPs would find my team looking for a new manager - being 5th bottom in the division maybe the directors will consider a rule change.. π€π€π€
Paul, look forward to our games against each other - may the best thugs win!!! πππ
When the Div 2 Games Reviewer says in both my last 2 games that i was unlucky you then realise what a total and complete randomness this game is. SL 29 Keeper not worth playing as he can save absolutely nothing.
I said after the way some of my earlier games have went i may just go all Aggressive for every player as this seems to be the only way i will give myself a chance. You may see a record number of suspensions heading for Ayr in the coming weeks. no poing playing with any sort of balance as it does not work.
STE sends 3 CP to HIB for 300k
HIB sends 3 CP to STE for 300k
HIB sends 3 CP to STE for 300k
ARB sends Joao Balde (4/17 DF) to EST for 225k
It's on alba
Have I missed the deadline? Got a few to trade in.
Says 4pm start - but what channel is this on Rob?
I can't find TV coverage of this match.
The following teams receive retire for apprentices through :
ALB(288) ARB(570) BRE(550) COV(436) COW(218) DEV(146) DUU(238) EF(112) EST(229) ELG(315) FOR(306) NAI(165) PET(281) QOS(212) QP(161) ROS(230)
Md season aging from SL 20 to 29 you lose same number as your players age.
Genius Steve.
Tables in rules appeared all so complicated.
Without looking at tables it's quite easy to work out how many SL will be lost (very low SL players is different).
Or: you can simply set up a 10x50 ageing matrix for the calculations - which might even be reusable some years later for a different league.
Whatever works.
Without looking at tables it's quite easy to work out how many SL will be lost (very low SL players is different).
MSA: from 20 to 29 you lose your age.
PSA: age at 20, age+1 at 21 to 25, age+2 at 26 to 30..
And one I forgot - if you click on your player name it tells you how much SL a player will lose.
I saw your struggles and 4 posts on Notebook today, but you got there in the end Steve so well done with your patience.
Remember you retire the players yourself
and you buy your own apprentices.
Commish adds the money to banks over the weekend.
Thanks for the newbie advice. (And Mark).
Found and absorbed. Cheers.
Features (top right) -> parameters has mid and post-season ageing tables.
Rules link
Main page
Players
Try this
http://www.vanillaconsulting.biz/seslwiki/index.php/Players
I'm sure I'm just being daft, but I can't find the aging tables? Where are they? Cheers.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 10:
Raith Rovers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
Deveronvale - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 9:
Nairn County - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Clydebank - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dwW)
Falkirk - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWW)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dwW)
Steve just follow the layout from others to make it easy on yourself
"Managers will post on Notebook ...
Detailling the players and
value of retiree's
with a total, "
LAST CALL for today.
Post on NOTEBOOK, and retire your players later today
___________________________________
S56: Converting oldies for cash towards apprentices:-
happening 23rd March 2024 - for cash towards apprentice
happening 29th April 2024 - for cash ONLY
1. this will be offered on 2 occasions in season 56
happening after match 10 and again after match 27 after MSA when no apprentice needs bought.
2. only players SL12 or less can be cashed in for apprentices
3. managers will retire players themselves and recruit apprentices themselves (on the Sunday after match 10, and after mid season aging)
Managers will post on Notebook (just once ideally) the week before match 10 and again match 27 if they wish.
Detailling the players and value of retiree's with a total, and noting how many apprentices being bought.
Commish will add cash in full of the players being retired on the Saturday of match 10 and after match 27.
Unlimited cash is on offer, and any excess cash in value funds are earned by the team.
Any short fall, is paid automatically when apprentice is bought by each manager.
Again this season: after match 27 there is no requirement to buy an apprentice as just a straight cash-in.
Managers may wish to buy an apprentice to help season in 5 sesl cup group matches.
Any player age 4+ with SL12 or less is eligable to be cashed in.
Age 4 players at 15k per SL
Age 5 players at 11k per SL
Age 6 players at 8k per SL
Age 7+ players at 6k per SL
There loads of people with the surname England, Holland, Ireland, Brazil.
And I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll find someone with the surname Bolivia π€·βοΈπ
Once you've named more than 200 players, you'll struggle for inspiration ππ
You've answered my question with the same question.
Bonkers :-)
<hashtag>FridayFunBanter
Bonkers?
Why?
Majority of players in a roster named after countries - that is bonkers, right?
RR sends 250k to ARB for Colin Hamilton (4/19 DF)
Having just noticed the hard MP limit:
What's the point?
You are getting next to no return from your 7th MP - while still paying a premium.
Was there maybe a mythic age of all UT squads ruling the low and high lands?
When will this be happening in season 56 Dan?
BRE sends 90k to STE for Aaron Hickey (5/7 DF), Shay Logan (6/7 DF)
I thnk you can trade in more than a 5th multi positional player, but that is from memory so not necessary fact.
Auction auto blocks bid on a 6th MPP player though for sure.
I believe the auction logic will cancel your bid for that player with an error if you already have the max number of MP players. I haven't tried it with a trade or bosman, but I would assume at least the trade route for getting a 6th MPP would fail the trade.
Quick reminder please?
When you have 5 MP players, can you not buy another MP player?
Or can you buy one, but then have to immediately reposition one of them?
Thanks
ROS sends George Harmon (3/22 DF) to LIV for Mohamed Salah (4/26 WG)
STE sends 10 TP to LIV for 250k, John Terry (4/26 DF)
DEV sends 80k to STJ for Jean-Marc Bosman (1/8 MF)
The following teams receive Physio Boost through M.Hawthorn:
STE(-80)
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 500k | RAN -- AI -- DEV |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 500k | MOT -- ELG -- BRE |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | FRA -- CB -- EF |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row from match 9 | 400k |
ALB ARB & HEA -- SRA -- |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games from match 9 | 300k | EDI -- DEE -- KIL |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | INV -- FAL -- QP |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | LIV -- -- ROS |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | ALO -- SM -- STI |
9 | Win >= 10 league games this season | 200k | STJ -- NAI -- PET |
10 | Team league goals for >=20 | 200k | CLY -- HAM -- |
Earn 100k in participation bonus Div 1: ABE CEL GM RR Div 2: ANN AYR COV COW DUM HIB STE Div 3: BER DUU DFA EST FOR MON PT QOS |
100k | default sponsor |
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through :
COV(100) EF(100) HIB(100)
Feels like another demonstration of just how competitive Division 2 is this season.
Average spend per club on sponsors:
Division 1 = 77k
Division 2 = 83k
Division 3 = 46k
The following teams receive team sponsor admin through :
BRE(100) DUU(100) STE(100)
The following teams receive Team Sponsor Bid through :
AI(-112) ALB(-50) ALO(-26) ARB(-50) BRE(-100) CLY(-1) CB(-110) DEV(-90) DEE(-88) EF(-76) EDI(-26) ELG(-251) FAL(-32) FRA(-102) HAM(-14) HEA(-50) INV(-102) KIL(-56) LIV(-26) MOT(-203) NAI(-77) PET(-1) QP(-26) RAN(-216) ROS(-1) STJ(-21) SM(-2) STI(-21) SRA(-58)
It is a strange competition....
https://www.bordercountiesadvertizer.co.uk/news/15854313.tns-land-place-in-new-scottish-cup/
I'm confused.
Scottish Challenge Cup? Scottish? With a Welsh team.
Whatever next? Cardiff playing in English league...
I will be glued to the tv on sunday afternoon as my home team from Oswestry TNS The New Saints take on Airdrie in the challenge cup final.Come on you saints and bring home the silverware.
RAN sends 525k to EDI for Peter Sissons (4/25 WG)
DEV sends 160k to EDI for Kyle Jacobs (1/10 MF)
Sorry all a bit rushed this evening so no fancy colour tables.
One set of bids received after deadline not included unfortunately.
ANN, AYR, COV, COW, DUM, HIB, STE get participation sponsorship
1 | Team Goals >= 60 | AI | 112 |
2 | 1 Player 4 MOM | ELG | 251 |
3 | Top 6 Finish | CB | 110 |
4 | 3 Clean Sheets | SRA | 58 |
5 | Unbeaten 3 | DEE | 88 |
6 | Last 16 Cup | FAL | 32 |
7 | 3 Age 0 SL10+ | ||
8 | Team DP <= 200 | SM | 2 |
9 | Win >= 10 Games | NAI | 77 |
10 | Team Goals >= 25 | HAM | 14 |
STE | HIB | AI | COW | HAM | SRA | NAI | FAL | DEE | ELG | CB | SM | ||
1 | Team Goals > =60 | 111 | 152 | ||||||||||
2 | 1 Player 4 MOM | 250 | 271 | ||||||||||
3 | Top 6 Finish | 109 | 120 | ||||||||||
4 | 3 Clean Sheets | 57 | 101 | ||||||||||
5 | Unbeaten 3 | 87 | 111 | ||||||||||
6 | Last 16 Cup | 31 | 59 | ||||||||||
7 | 3 Age 0 SL10+ | ||||||||||||
8 | Team DP <=200 | 1 | 55 | ||||||||||
9 | Win >= 10 Games | 76 | 88 | ||||||||||
10 | Team Goals >= 25 | 13 | 41 |
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STE | HIB | AI | COW | HAM | SRA | NAI | FAL | DEE | ELG | CB | SM | |
1 | Team Goals > =60 | 111 | 152 | 103 | 33 | ||||||||
2 | 1 Player 4 MOM | 108 | 187 | 250 | 88 | 201 | 271 | ||||||
3 | Top 6 Finish | 109 | 95 | 25 | 35 | 88 | 120 | ||||||
4 | 3 Clean Sheets | 57 | 21 | 101 | 120 | ||||||||
5 | Unbeaten 3 | 87 | 32 | 23 | 101 | 49 | 111 | 141 | 120 | ||||
6 | Last 16 Cup | 31 | 101 | 59 | 111 | 61 | 120 | ||||||
7 | 3 Age 0 SL10+ | 41 | 120 | ||||||||||
8 | Team DP <=200 | 1 | 39 | 27 | 55 | ||||||||
9 | Win >= 10 Games | 55 | 11 | 26 | 76 | 51 | 88 | 29 | |||||
10 | Team Goals >= 25 | 3 | 64 | 13 | 41 | 51 | 88 | 34 | 27 | 71 |
Division 1 Sponsor Bids are in and calculated.
It is a manual process, so please do check my workings. VAR not used.
Lot 4 was 3 way tie with ALB HEA & ALB all winning it
10 out of 10 lots were won.
Winning bid is 1k more than 2nd highest bid.
Once a team win a lot then all their future bids become void.
12 teams who bid all won a lot.
4 who failed to bid all get default sponsor and if abe cel gm & rr fail to even win that they will become default goal keepers for all future kick abouts in the park.
Surprised nobody won this. It's only failed to be done once since season 49 across all divisions.
Division 3 Sponsor Bids are in and calculated.
The results are below. It's always a bit fiddly to sort through and it is a manual process, so please do 1) Check your bids are recorded correctly and 2) Sense check my workings on the results.
There was no tied bids.
8 out of 10 Lots were won.
8 Teams leave with the default 'Earn 100k in Participation Bonus' Lot. 7 Teams that didnt bid and FOR who were unsuccessful.
No bids were adjusted due to not having enough funds.
Winners are details are below.
Andy, I have been saying that for a while now - the 2nd division is the place for thrills and spills.My team T17 puts me in the 3rd division as I write.. :-(
Andrew and Colin - nice insertions to cover up my missing your match review. You all deserve participation bonus, as will I for this post.. :-)
Ten Division One teams knocked out today (I think there were 4 games between Div 1 teams). Well played to the lower division sides who believed (or were lucky).
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 8:
Motherwell - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (dwW)
12 teams bidding from Division 1
Send up to 5 bids via team inbox please by Wed 20th March , 15:00
to the manager who is doing your division. 10 lots are available to bid on.
BRE Fran Div 1
DUU Mark Boland Div 2
STE Ricky Div 3
I will accept bids for next 3 hours or so,
until I home from work to process all Div 1 bids manually this evening.
......sadly one of our dearly beloved Ultras (bless their little razor blades) also got injured in the very same car accident. He lost all of his fingers. I saw him this morning after the excellent match report had been published. I asked him how he felt and he says mostly with his elbows.
It won't be long until the SRA ultras will be enjoying Spring Break and Miss Jenkins the P6 teacher is looking forward to some time away from the wee cretins. The DUM fans weren't bothered about the match report. In fact one of the lads had been in a bad road crash last year and lost his voice and both his legs. I saw him on Sunday and I mentioned the missing match report but he didn't make a song and dance about it. Dignified.
EF sends Bobby Barr (5/16 DF) to EST for 160k
EDI sends 285k to NAI for Calum Mackay (1/12 MA)
Interesting note from looking at T-11s today: 3 of the top 5 T-11s (and 4 of the top 7) are sides that currenly sit in division 2. I don't have numbers from previous seasons, but that does seem high from what I normally see there. Perhaps the extra two matches so far for these sides make a difference, but I can't imagine it would be enough to really change the ordering of T-11s.
Perhaps this both points to a very competitive Division 2 race this season, and also a better chance than usual for a lower division side to win one of the cups. Seems exciting/promising from my perspective
ALB sends 60k to MOT for Richard Valenzuela (6/10 FW)
Life isn't all bout having fun you know, David. You young things are so shallow....
Besides, a few years ago my wife bought me a similar jigsaw - of grass - so I can assure you that this is more fun than watching grass growing!
Many thanks David......the Ultras at Stair Park have been herded back in their safety pen.......
Paul, wouldn't you have more fun watching paint drying or grass growing? Or at least get a jigsaw with a picture?
You must be aging daily with this one, but full marks for perservering :-)
11 teams bidding
STE, HIB, AI, COW, HAM, SRA, NAI, FAL, DEE, ELG, CB
7 Entries in now.
Queens Park
East Fife
Brechin City
Deveronvale
Stirling
Peterhead
Ross County
War & Peace 534/1215
I did your review but failed to pick up all 8 reviews when I posted them.
I am also not getting into SESL via my computer but will type in the review direct from my iPhone. Enjoy!
(Not sure DUM wanted this though - and Mark says I'll still get paid..π°π°
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Mar 17th:
AI(15) ALB(10) ALO(50) BRE(25) COV(10) COW(50) DEV(20) DUM(10) DEE(50) EF(40) FAL(15) HEA(20) HIB(45) LIV(30) MOT(50) QP(20) RAN(10) ROS(40) STJ(10) STE(10) SRA(10)
Yes, excellent.....not as much detail on the big SRA win in game 6 as the Stair Park fans would have liked though......
A decent read on front page.
Well done Steve, David & Paul.
9 teams in Div 1 are in the hat for a team sponsor on Wednesday
Who else wants join: EDI FRA CLY ARB HEA ALB STJ ALO LIV
season 56: Send up to 5 bids via team inbox please by Wed 20th March , 15:00
to the manager who is doing your division. 10 lots are available to bid on.
BRE Fran Div 1
DUU Mark Boland Div 2
STE Ricky Div 3
cash paid out at end of season
New this season, all teams not winning an auction lot will be allocated the back-up default lot for participation bonus. This is to ensure all 48 teams have a sponsor this season.
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 500k | -- -- |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 500k | -- -- |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | -- -- |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row from match 9 | 400k | -- -- |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games from match 9 | 300k | -- -- |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | -- -- |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | -- -- |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | -- -- |
9 | Win >= 10 league games this season | 200k | -- -- |
10 | Team league goals for >=20 | 200k | -- -- |
Earn 100k in participation bonus | 100k | default sponsor |
Given 0.0008 probability per minute of a player playing n, over 90 minutes a team that plays all 'n' should expect just under 0.8 cards per match. Wont bore you with the red card and dp calcs (all on the wiki if needed), but this translates to an expectation of 3.36 DP per match. At the minimum matches in a season (37) that puts you at 124 DP. At the maximum fixtures (reaching both cup finals from div 2/3, or 51 matches) that's about 171 DP. Correct me if I missed anything. If anything my calcs are very slightly high due to not accounting for lowered 2nd yellow chances.
Surprised at that 171 number - I can't fully remember, but I thought MOT blew past 200 last season without much aggression. Perhaps I'm remembering our DP wrong, or perhaps we got some bad luck - we did get a fair number of reds while playing all 'n', which should only happen once every 25 matches on average, I believe
You would be very unlucky to reach 200 DP as long as you don't play aggressive.
Careful Eduard, lot 4 on front web page says:-
"3 clean sheets in a row from match 9"
Thanks for the hint. I have looked at last season's auction results, where this wasn't explicitely mentioned.
Anyway, I assume that - if not otherwise mentioned - the reference for the sponsor conditions is the WHOLE season: including all (cup) matches ahead of the auction.
So, if you chose "<= 200 DP", you should better have no deep cup run!?
Watched this game on TV and bet ex RAN sesl boss Stewart is still celebrating it. Stewart a season ticket holder at Fulham while Spurs boss Ange used Celtic last season as a stepping stone.
Incredible result for Fulham.
Physio Boost M Hawthorn please
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 7:
Dundee FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WDW)
Cove Rangers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Dww)
Brechin City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
East Fife - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 6:
Albion Rovers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Raith Rovers - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWd)
Hibernian - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Deveronvale - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wWW)
Peterhead - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
Or bid 1k on lot 10, maybe win, and make 199k profit.
Bid 99k on Lot 10, a task I think every team did last season and, either make 101k or force somebody else to bid 100k.
I bid 100k for lot 10 and win. It costs 100k now and, IF successful I get 200k at the end of the season. If not I lose 100k. Or, just sit it out and write this stuff for an easy 100k. What to do....
Careful Eduard, lot 4 on front web page says:-
"3 clean sheets in a row from match 9"
If not otherwise mentioned, the evaluation of the offers depends on the whole season, correct?
E.G. if you'd have already 3 clean sheets in matches 1-3, the offer "3 clean sheets in a row" would be safe?
15 Entries so far
While watching Liverpool go 4-nil up after 16mins I thought this is almost as realistic as the SESL match engine...their shot chances also went down.....
Less than a week to go now and just the one set of bids in so far!
Problem is I can't guarantee having the time to do them. They look like a lot of work as well.
Yep got to admit when the draw was done I did look for them.
As usual they were missing in action though!
Steve, if Mark sees this, he will obviously need you to travel to his office for an interview, and at that point you can discuss holiday entitlement, car allowance, and luncheon vouchers. And he doesn't bite, often. ππππ
Just kidding, it's good fun to do reviews, as long as you have the time soon after the Saturday matches - oh, and the pay is good. π°π°
Are you still looking for a volunteer? If so, I'll step up to the plate.
LIV sends Jason Holt (1/17 MF) to ABE for 400k, 10 TP, Alex Ferguson (6/7 MF)
Steve,
How did my name get mixed up in your review of the ALB v HEA cup tie?
I plead not guilty to any comment attributed to my name.. πππππππ
I was too surprised (and happy) to comment on my own game to comment on others. π€π€π€
Some extracts from around the Universe
Stewart Miller: The calculated shot count for the whole game was 7.07 for ALB and 7.47 for HEA but the actual chances were 10 to 1 in ALB's favour so Hearts will consider themselves hard done by...
David Blair: With a shot count of 9 to 1, Albion Rovers were worthy winners and Hearts can count themselves lucky to have an away goal from that one shot to take into the second leg...
Dave Smyth: What the actual f....
Matt Cooper: How did EST do? Oh wait, they were knocked out in the first round...
Olmec: Mwahahahahahaha
A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far Away: Obi-Wan: "The Hearts manager played Ball Control against Early Cross and didn't mark the wingers?" Yoda: "Much to learn, he has."
MOT sends 5 TP to SRA for Blett Youngfren (1/14 DF)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 5:
Inverness - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DwW)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (Wwd)
Looks like auction hic-cup was resolved Sunday night Bill, so don't worry about it.
RAN in sesl seemed to blame the game mechanics last couple of seasons, so probably no apology necessary.
Division 1 teams only auction is this coming Sunday though if RAN want fire bids in for that.
Sorry for messing up the auction folks.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 1 Winners:
COW(25) MOT(25) NAI(25) QP(25)
Carnage!
It used to be that Division 1 was the easiest one to predict. Not in season 56 it would seem.
Checked the records and this was the lowest average score I could find. A very very low 3.09
We'd 2 draws that not a single entry predicted. In those 2 matches the home sides were 100% favourites.
A very impressive 32 enties, so good healthy start to the prediction league season. Most of you will be relying on the week 1 score being one of the 2 that drop come week 9.
So congratulations to Nairn, Queens Park, Motherwell & Cowdenbeath on scoring a very respectable 5 points.
25k each
Next round is Division 2 and this coming Saturday. Notebook entries are now open.
Thank you very much kind sir!
STJ sends Liam Gordon (5/16 DF) to EST for 200k
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Mar 10th:
AI(20) ALB(5) ALO(50) ANN(30) BRE(10) CLY(30) CB(10) COW(50) DEV(10) DEE(20) EF(50) EDI(25) FAL(25) FOR(15) HEA(30) HIB(50) KIL(10) LIV(35) PET(15) ROS(50) STJ(45) SM(5) STE(30) STI(10) SRA(20)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Mar 3rd:
AI(10) ALO(50) AYR(15) CLY(25) CB(10) COW(10) DEV(5) DEE(45) DUU(10) EF(30) FAL(5) HEA(50) HIB(50) LIV(40) NAI(5) RR(10) ROS(20) STJ(10) STE(10) SRA(5)
BRE sends 50k to ALO for Connor Sammon (6/6 MF), Paul Smith (7/6 MF)
Division 1 teams send bids to me. 8 days to go.
Send up to 5 bids via team inbox please by Wed 20th March , 15:00
to the manager who is doing your division. 10 lots are available to bid on.
BRE Fran Div 1
DUU Mark Boland Div 2
STE Ricky Div 3
cash paid out at end of season
New this season, all teams not winning an auction lot will be allocated the back-up default lot for participation bonus. This is to ensure all 48 teams have a sponsor this season.
1 | Team league goals for >=60 | 500k | -- -- |
2 | 1 player >=4 Man of the Match Awards | 500k | -- -- |
3 | Top 6 league finish in your division | 400k | -- -- |
4 | 3 clean sheets in a row from match 9 | 400k | -- -- |
5 | Unbeaten streak of 3 games from match 9 | 300k | -- -- |
6 | Last 16 in either Cup | 300k | -- -- |
7 | Have >=3 age0 SL10+ last day season | 300k | -- -- |
8 | Team DP <= 200 | 200k | -- -- |
9 | Win >= 10 league games this season | 200k | -- -- |
10 | Team league goals for >=20 | 200k | -- -- |
Earn 100k in participation bonus | 100k | default sponsor |
No need to rush on my account now, Andy, as Leon came to my rescue. As he put it :"little effort, big help."
I'll push to get it out tonight. Apologies for the delay - have had visitors in the house over the past couple of weeks (gone now) and have not had my usual free time.
I know budgets are tight this time of the season, so I'll try to keep to a Monday or Tuesday schedule for the coming weeks
Sorry for messing up the auction folks.
DEV sends 86k to ALO for 1 TP
Any chance before Wednesday's game, please? I'm 6k short to use an extra slot.
Same place where you enter prediction league entries there is post with all the info. Happening 23rd March I think it said.
And no 2nd cash-in option before MSA as looks virtually no one used that one, so the 2nd retire session is after mid season aging.
Age 4 players at 15k per SL | ||
Age 5 players at 11k per SL | ||
Age 6 players at 8k per SL | ||
Age 7+ players at 6k per SL |
Could i get the amounts per SL per age for oldies cash in please? I can't seem to find them anywhere. Thanks!
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through :
INV(200)
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through :
EF(100) HIB(200)
More than me.
Don't worry about it, Bill.
Could happen to anybody - I may enter The Div 1 auction to make you feel better.
No, wait - I've not got any cash to spend. Darn!! ππ
Sorry for messing up the auction folks.
Does anyone want a shot of reviewing Division 1 league matches, starting from this coming weekend?
Can do half a season, and then step down if another volunteer wishes to take over. That way spreads the wealth out more over a full season.
Volunteers are thin on the ground, despite role paying 100k a week.
The following teams receive Adjustment through auction 2 bidding blip:
AI(78) COW(-376) FAL(-77) RAN(625)
Makes sense to me Mark
Removing RAN bids from tonight's Div 2 only auction, I think Lot 1, 2 & 8 alter.
I have done this MANUALLY from the auction report on server, so the revised bid amounts that Olmec calculated (4th column below) are now not always true. Details below.
Someone check this please that it makes any sense, and blog to say looks ok,
and then I will manually remove players from RAN & FAL,
and add in correct FAL player 4/25 DF, and add to COW 3/20 MF.
Bank adjustments would be RAN +625k, AI +78k, FAL -77k & COW -376k
So FAL now win lot 1 rather than RAN. 522k. Which is 1k more than 2nd highest valid bid.
Lot 2 now goes to COW as FAL would no longer have enough in bank, now 102k. 375k is 2nd highest valid bid, so COW now pays 376k
Lot 8 is still won by AI, but for 78k less to be paid should have been 281k, so STE now becomes 2nd highest bid. So AI pay 367k rather than 445k
team ID revised bid | |||||||||||
25 | 1 | 624 | 624 | Ryan Williamson | FAL | 522 is win bid | |||||
29 | 1 | 521 | 521 | James Farrell | COW | ||||||
13 | 1 | 408 | 366 | Parauay | STE | ||||||
47 | 1 | 405 | 405 | Bearton Vullerton | SRA | ||||||
22 | 1 | 375 | 375 | Niles Nutter | COV | ||||||
34 | 1 | 300 | 300 | George Russell | CB | ||||||
42 | 1 | 299 | 299 | Jamie Carnihan | NAI | ||||||
5 | 1 | 224 | 224 | Frank Morton | HIB | ||||||
24 | 1 | 213 | 213 | Hector Casey | ELG | ||||||
41 | 1 | 188 | 188 | Lee Kilday | HAM | ||||||
32 | 1 | 127 | 127 | Mohamad Sylla | DEE | ||||||
25 | 2 | 624 | 445 | Callumn Morrison | FAL | FAL | bank 102k | ||||
29 | 2 | 444 | 444 | Sandy Lyle | COW | 376 | |||||
22 | 2 | 375 | 375 | Ollie Otter | COV | ||||||
34 | 2 | 300 | 300 | George Russell | CB | ||||||
42 | 2 | 199 | 199 | Kenny MacInnes | NAI | ||||||
32 | 2 | 164 | 164 | Mohamad Sylla | DEE | ||||||
13 | 2 | 155 | 155 | Uraguay | STE | ||||||
35 | 2 | 123 | 123 | Elliot Dunlop | AI | ||||||
24 | 2 | 121 | 121 | Fred Swale | ELG | ||||||
35 | 3 | 123 | 1 | Liam McStravick | AI | ok | |||||
29 | 4 | 444 | 376 | Colin Montgomerie | COW | ok | |||||
13 | 4 | 408 | 366 | Argentina | STE | ||||||
22 | 4 | 375 | 375 | Peter Petrie | COV | ||||||
5 | 4 | 343 | 343 | Pat Quinn | HIB | ||||||
24 | 4 | 216 | 216 | Connor McLaren | ELG | ||||||
41 | 4 | 188 | 188 | Reghan Tumilty | HAM | ||||||
32 | 4 | 27 | 27 | Mohamad Sylla | DEE | ||||||
34 | 5 | 600 | 506 | George Foreman | CB | ||||||
13 | 5 | 505 | 366 | Drake | STE | ||||||
47 | 5 | 505 | 505 | Gruerz | SRA | ||||||
24 | 5 | 451 | 451 | Wesley Abundala | ELG | ||||||
22 | 5 | 395 | 395 | Quentin Quinn | COV | ||||||
41 | 5 | 248 | 248 | Stephen Hendrie | HAM | ||||||
5 | 5 | 52 | 52 | Andy Lowe | HIB | ||||||
32 | 5 | 27 | 27 | Mohamad Sylla | DEE | ||||||
25 | 6 | 624 | 179 | Jack Hendry | FAL | ||||||
34 | 6 | 600 | 0 | George Foreman | CB | ||||||
47 | 6 | 505 | 460 | Magjust Lekburn | SRA | ok | |||||
42 | 6 | 459 | 459 | Jamie Carnihan | NAI | ||||||
29 | 6 | 444 | 444 | Arnold Palmer | COW | ||||||
24 | 6 | 421 | 421 | Arthur Wiseman | ELG | ||||||
22 | 6 | 375 | 375 | Roger Runcie | COV | ||||||
5 | 6 | 51 | 51 | Andy Lowe | HIB | ||||||
42 | 7 | 649 | 569 | Horace Ormsby | NAI | ok | |||||
25 | 7 | 624 | 179 | James Forrest | FAL | ||||||
34 | 7 | 600 | 0 | George Foreman | CB | ||||||
35 | 7 | 568 | 568 | Arron Lyall | AI | 2nd highest bid | |||||
47 | 7 | 505 | 115 | Jonjo Yeit | SRA | ||||||
41 | 7 | 46 | 46 | Lewis Smith | HAM | ||||||
32 | 7 | 27 | 27 | Mohamad Sylla | DEE | ||||||
42 | 8 | 699 | 355 | Aaron Nicholson | NAI | ||||||
25 | 8 | 624 | 179 | Kevin Nisbet | FAL | ||||||
35 | 8 | 569 | 445 | Josh OConnor | AI | win 367k | |||||
13 | 8 | 505 | 366 | Goofy | STE | 2nd highest bid | |||||
29 | 8 | 444 | 444 | Stephen Gallacher | COW | bank is 281 | |||||
47 | 8 | 405 | 115 | Perri Zerver | SRA | ||||||
41 | 8 | 98 | 98 | Ahkeem Rose | HAM | ||||||
5 | 8 | 51 | 51 | Alex Edwards | HIB |
Would rather have lot 1.
....seasons only just started.......just relegate them......
Especially with Falkirk then winning lot 1 which doesn't leave them with enough funds for their next winning bid which Cowdenbeath then take who have enough funds for their 2 winning bids but did they ask for the same player name....
Seems we have a division 1 side winning the first entry....
Will be an interesting one to resolve π€£
ALO sends 100k, 10 TP to HIB for 9 CP
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through :
ALB(200) ANN(200) COW(200) DEV(200) DUU(200) FAL(200) FOR(200) NAI(200) PET(200) STJ(200) SM(200) SRA(200)
We conceded 6 goals in the first 2 league games of the season, which is pretty much exactly as we expected playing an age 0 and age 1 goalkeeper. What we didn't expect was scoring 8 goals and have a 6 point weekend. Wow.
BER sends 4 CP, 3 TP to FRA for Marc-Andre Ter Stegen (5/24 GK)
Thanks Steve
Couple of surprise teams in the red zone at foot of Div 1.
Very early days ofcourse.
Let's go.
Alan will post the results here in the blog.
Where I can find the results? Who guessed the most?
Thanks for your clarifications, but in my opinion X is better than 3. In some online prediction games instead of X, zero [0} is used. But X is better.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 3:
Airdrieonians FC - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (DWw)
Annan Athletic - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWw)
Clydebank - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wDw)
Hamilton Accies - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WWw)
Queens Park - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (wdW)
X = Draw....
Simple really.
Careful David. If you want us all to stick to prediction rules then you have invalidated the HIB entry.
Sorry I couldn't resist a jibe David. My friend - us Edinburgh teams need stick together against these gallus Glaswegian gimps!
I am old school and X was a draw, but John has a point about it being easier to display on a spreadsheet using a 3.
I suggest the Prediction Officer sets his rules, males his choice and we all stick to it. I like rules..:-)
I wonder if "3" would be better than "x" for a tied match drawn?
Then all entries could be copied in to a spreadsheet and do a simple "look up" command to get team totals?
3 = X
X used to be 3 but it was changed to X (I think to make is easier for who was running the prediction league at the time).
But... we have quite a few young people in this game that are a bit slow to assimilate change... ;)
I have noticed that a couple of managers have entered a 3 sign. Since 1 is for a home win, 2 for away win and X for a draw, what is number 3 for?
ROS sends 250k to HEA for Liam Boyce (5/18 FW)
Arghhhhhh. I had never ever noticed it.
And now I cannot un-see it at side of orders page.
TACTIC | GP | DEF | OFF |
STALL | |||
OPPORUNISTIC | |||
COUNTERATTACK |
Is it "opporunistic". Bothers me everything I see it :)
I'm from an IT background, though been a number of years since I was hands on.
Dabbled with php in the past, if it's as simple as resolving a typo would be willing to take a look .
Only 9 Entries in so far.
PT sends 430k to BRE for Robert Burns (1/14 DF)
It might or might not be grammatically correct but I never say "whom".
A while ago somebody here said they might be able to alter the SESL code. I can't remember whom it was or if anything was tried.
It's just that there's this really annoying bug/typo that I'd like corrected if possible.
Thanks to Dan (ANN) conducting the CECIL cup draw last night.
2 leg ties home & away. match 5 & 8 is Last 32 stage
Last 32 | Last 16 | Qtr | Semi | Final |
---|---|---|---|---|
CEL v ANN | v |
? v ? | X v X | x vs x |
DEE v LIV | ||||
CLY v ELG | v |
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QP v ALO | ||||
FOR v RAN | v |
? v ? | ||
HIB v STE | ||||
AI v AYR | v |
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CB v EDI | ||||
GM v FAL | v |
? v ? | X v X | |
RR v ABE | ||||
ROS v DUM | v | |||
ARB v HAM | ||||
SRA v DFA | v | ? v ? | ||
ALB v HEA | ||||
INV v MOT | v |
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STJ v FRA |
The following teams receive Cup Draw Participation through :
ALO(50) ANN(100) EDI(50) HIB(50) LIV(50) RAN(50) SRA(50)
Went on there just before 7 but was just greeted with a blank page. However i've never used teams before so no doubt done something wrong.
Bottom quarter of the draw looks very juicy with 6 Divison One teams.
All done - thanks Dan, the few hardy souls who attended earned the price of 2 extra training slots - me included!!
Now if only the camera would work - the lads there would have seen I was the oldest manager in the game, but at least the mic was working..
All those in the last 32 will know their fate soon enough... :-)
Turns out I counted wrong and it wasn't Forfar (I'm sure Willy will be pleased as he thinks I'm his bogey team in all leagues*) but another 3rd division side.
*he's wrong.
Sorry I had no mic - I was actually surprised to have video as the camera doesn't work on my phone - turns out it does for selfies.
I think I saw who we were drawn against assuming I counted right and we were drawn first.
In the esteemed company of Bill (EDI), Bill 2 (RAN), John (LIV), David (HIB), Andrew (SRA) & a very quiet Steve (ALO) whom will pocket 50k for their troubles, the 'Wheel of names' drew the teams as follows:
CEL v ANN
DEE v LIV
CLY v ELG
QP v ALO
FOR v RAN
HIB v STE
AI v AYR
CB v EDI
GM v FAL
RR v ABE
ROS v DUM
ARB v HAM
SRA v DFA
ALB v HEA
INV v MOT
STJ v FRA
Well, we crashed out, but I guess I can still earn the 50k...
.......I had removed this from my Calendar in anger and disgust at the first leg performance (killed 5-1). However, the SESL Gods move in mysterious ways and suddenly we got put back in the draw thanks to that lonely away goal?! The lads have footy practice til exactly 7pm.....and it takes 7 mins to get back......so please keep SRA on the wheel until then!
Ross County are proud to announce the signing of experienced DF Michee Efete from Grimsby Town, the democrat of Congo international will slot straight into the side and bolster up our new look defence.
Kicked off proper now havent we! :-) :-)
League lineups for everyone to submit, Auction bids to complete (D2), the last of manager previews hitting the press-releases, Team Sponsor bids being taken (none in for D3 yet), Prediction league entries open and trades flying in.
Thats what we like to see!
AUCTION #2 Deadline: Sun, Mar 10: 1930 |
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LOT | INFORMATION | ||
1. | 4 | 25 | DF |
2. | 3 | 20 | MF |
3. | 2 | 18 | WG |
4. | 1 | 16 | DF |
5. | 0 | 9 | DF |
6. | 0 | 8 | DF |
7. | 0 | 7 | WG |
8. | 0 | 7 | FW |
for Division 2 teams only
LIVE draw using the 'Wheel of Names' - 7 PM (GMT) using the link below
https://teams.live.com/meet/9487060800759?p=nVRrZ3igW8BWXhlP
$$££$$ Easy 50 k for any manager who can make it! $$££$$
0/5 apprentice costs 200k.
... or for 2 SL more you can win 0/7 at auction for 644k.
Twice.
LIV sends Stephen Kelly (1/17 MF) to RAN for 500k, 10 TP
What does that mean in your bio?
Congrats on retirement soon Matt. You do not look old enough to retire.
Do you play golf!?
Do you need get home to escape your wife project requests!?
Both update now bit late for auction but still all completed.
Paul,
Thinking about it you're probably right. The 3 SL per 1 Age came about ages ago when CP was valued at less than 100k and really works for older players. Age 1s are hard to value. A 1/17 would be worth 1000k in my situation for the reasons given but he's just a 200-400k Age 0 with 10 free TP.
the 1/18 for 3/26 is a good swap because Arbroath have 2 other age 1 players and it's an 8 SL increase even if CP isn't used on him.
1/18=2/21 is not that good - I'd readily spend TP on the age 1 but not so sure about CP on the age 2.
Maybe just me, but I am thinking at least 1 club shouldn't be bidding in it - only for 3rd division clubs.. (Mind you, there are a couple of lads I wish I had the money to bid, but rules are rules... :-))
LIVE draw using the 'Wheel of Names' - 7 PM (GMT) using the link below
https://teams.live.com/meet/9487060800759?p=nVRrZ3igW8BWXhlP
$$££$$ Easy 50 k for any manager who can make it! $$££$$
Steve,
You say 1/18=2/21=3/24, which I guess you’d say is about 1000k.
Looking at the player value guide, I can see that (in the entire history of the game) two 1/18s and three 1/17s have sold at auction for more than 1000k (though many have sold for less).
We don’t get 2/21s at auction, but the highest price ever paid for a 2/20 is 624k
And there are no 3/24s but the highest price ever paid for a 3/23 is 726k
So I think the equivalence is probably more like 1/18 = 2/24 = 3/26 = 4/28
Updated for PET.
Agreed Steve, I had simmilar valuation, but people get precious of their age 1s and this was actually one of the better offers I got. It was a counter as I'd tried to get a touch extra out of it, but in the end decided just best to go with it.
Please stop trading ahead of our game. How am I supposed to beat you if you keep improving your side?
Good trade with PET - if it had gone the other way I'd suggest reversing or compensation, as rule of thumb is 1/18=2/21=3/24
ARB sends David Gold (1/18 MF) to PET for Pat McClements (3/27 DF)
Prediction league entries for round 1 are now open on the Notebook
Link to rules here http://www.vanillaconsulting.biz/seslwiki/index.php?title=SESL_Rules#Prediction_Competition
Ross County are proud to announce the signing of experienced DM Ian McCall from Clydebank.
Coach Rob stated he is exactly the player we have been monitoring and is essential to our rebuild, he will slot straight in and strengthen our side.
CB sends Ian McCall (3/21 DM) to ROS for 600k
There! We may not have done it on time for the auction, but that is ok!
Happy new season everybody!
Go Forfar!
Done at Albion
COV sends Shay Logan (5/13 DM) to STE for Pluto (5/12 FW)
CB sends 50k, Tuguy (4/16 SD) to STE for Portugal (4/18 FW)
John, I know it looks like an overpayment, but Killie trained the lad up last season for me on these agreed terms. However it was too late to transfer the lad over with the trade window closed. So we did it as soon as I had the cash this season.
I needed a 2nd keeper, but as my future was clear from about MSA last season, keeping him till now wasn't a problem - and my 3rd keeper has just packed his bags to sample Arbroath smokies. :-)
ARB sends 100k to HIB for David Marshall (5/12 GK)
If it had been a 0/17 it maybe wouldn't look so over-priced, but effectively that is what this player is as season not yet started, if you know what I mean.
I think it maybe 300k over paid, but a Div 1 team doesnt want play a 0/5 GK and risk a blow out!
Although HIB seemed to have settled for relegation last season quite early on, and typed as much several times, but maybe HIB never had the spare TP last season to build his own age 0 players.
Ah yes, Hibs certinaly benetiffed from not having to play a rookie keeper last season....
I would assume that the selling club had a deal with the buying club that they would train the GK up for them so that the buying club didn't have to take the risk of playing an inexperienced keeper last season.
Referring to Fran's post....
The first two - the cheap ones, are close to the valuations on the Wiki
Steve has explained his reasoning for his valuation of the third, and it does seem to make sense, even though it is much higher than the first two.
The fourth makes no sense to me, but David is such an experienced manager....perhaps you could explain your reasoning, David?
In last few days
a 1/14 trade for 450k. another for 5TP
A 1/16 for 1000k
A 1/17 for 900k plus 10 TP !!
Done as well :)
Better late than never, done now.
HIB sends 900k, 10 TP to KIL for Jojo Wollacott (1/17 GK)
ALO sends 400k to ARB for Craig Slater (4/21 MF)
Season 56 bio now available.
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Feb 25th:
ALO(50) CLY(50) COV(10) COW(50) DEV(25) EF(40) EDI(30) FOR(30) HEA(20) HIB(50) LIV(25) MOT(40) PT(10) QP(30) RAN(25) ROS(10) STJ(20) STE(40)
....done slightly late....
The following teams receive Bio & Team Updates through :
ALO(200) ARB(200) CLY(100) DEE(200) EF(200) EDI(200) ELG(200) FRA(200) HAM(200) HEA(200) HIB(200) LIV(100) MOT(200) PT(200) QOS(200) QP(200) ROS(200) STE(200) STI(200)
NAI sends Scott McTominay (4/19 MF) to COV for Thenn Warg (4/19 DF)
I also disagree with this idea and I'm pretty sure Mark would be against it.
SFLSL has this (you get an extra 10 TP) but I don't know if those that pay would pay anyway.
I make it 3 payments you've made so far, Paul, wish I could afford to pay as much. πππ°π°πππππ
Mark
sent you across some cash via your PayPal link that hopefully will help in your costs for the game πππ
I'm clearly against any pay2win features, including this one.
However, I consider the superstar feature somewhat silly, anyway
Not for me, There shouldn't be any in game bonus for making a donation
DEV sends 200k to HEA for Josh Ginnelly (5/17 FW)
STE sends 350k to COV for Greg Taylor (4/19 DF)
DEV sends 3 CP to STI for 3 TP
Could managers making donations to game costs be given a free chance of a apprentice super star upgrade?
Mark
sent you across some cash via your PayPal link that hopefully will help in your costs for the game πππ
CB sends Tyler Brown (4/23 DF) to PET for 436k
Mark
sent you across some cash via your PayPal link that hopefully will help in your costs for the game πππ
Reminder before you buy an apprentice you may consider waiting until match 10 so you can retire some old players for cash towards apprentice.
Converting oldies for cash towards apprentices:-
happening 23rd March 2024 - for cash towards apprentice
happening 29th April 2024 - for cash ONLY
War and Peace 472/1215
EDI sends Billy Bremner (6/11 DM) to KIL for 40k, 1 TP
KIL sends 185k to HEA for Cameron Devlin (6/16 MF)
EF sends Ellery Queen (1/14 DF) to STI for 450k
Thank you all for your replies regarding the deadline.
HIB sends 160k to STE for 2 TP
PET sends 1 CP to STE for Italy (6/11 GK)
ALO sends 1000k to DEV for Andy Graham (1/16 DM)
Deadlines are 3 PM GMT. If there are two games, then the second match is 4 PM. Most managers submit both lineups just in case they can't get online after the first match.
Lineups can be submitted (and changed) at any time before the match starts.
bottom left corner of main front web page has schedule of deadline
Match 3 is 15:00 UK time, (which may be an hour earlier or later for Europe).
Most matches at 15:00, and if a 2nd match same day it is one hour after at 16:00 hrs.
So sumbit lineup 4 just now also, which you can edit lineup nearer the deadline if you wish.
proposed season 56 schedule of matches 1 Mon 4-Mar-24 1 Cecil qualifier leg 1 2 Wed 6-Mar-24 2 Cecil qualifier leg 2 A1 Div3 06-Mar 3 Sat 9-Mar-24 3/4 League A2 Div2 10-Mar 4 Wed 13-Mar-24 5 Cecil last 32, leg 1 5 Sat 16-Mar-24 6/7 League A3 Div1 17-Mar 6 Wed 20-Mar-24 8 Cecil last 32, leg 2 sponsor auction 7 Sat 23-Mar-24 9/10 League oldies cash in #1 23-Mar
@Mike Hernandez...Thanks for your message, but I know that my first match is number 3. What I want to know is until when I have to submit my lineup and tacticts for my match number 3?
BRE sends Hector Bellerin (4/23 DM) to ALB for 423k
East Fife are delighted to welcome two new men to their squad for the coming season. Ayo Obileye (left, below) joins us from Livingstone and we are sure that this resilient and experienced defender will add backbone to the defence. At the other end of the field, Alan Trouten (right) graduates from our youth squad. This flying winger promises much in the future, even though in real life he is 38 years old. But you're never too old to play in SESL, are you?
Ayo Obileye Alan Trouten
SM sends 5 TP to HIB for John McGinn (1/14 MF)
LIV sends Ayo Obileye (4/25 DF) to EF for 500k
Leon and Fran I have proposed trades with both of you but won't have enough cash for both until Sunday's Bio payout (I've updated mine).
But I do want both trades.
I've proposed mine, agreed before the end of last season. Just waiting for the other manager to come online.
who will be first ?
CLY first match is number 3. This is same for all Div 1 clubs.
Match 1 & 2 is the Cecil cup qualification games for all Div 2 & 3.
Match 1 is due this coming Monday, March 4 2024. When is the deadline to submit the lineup? Please bear in mind that I am totally new to the game.
I was enoying the off season and the deadline is Satuday afternoon, Why the unseemly rush warranting the multiple reminders. I have done them now.
Please carry on!
3....
2.....
1....
Interested to see all the transfers start flying through tomorrow afternoon. Who's going to be first out of the blocks? Whats the first move? Not a lot of time to chnage your squads before the CECIL Cup games.
Will this be happening in season 56?
Let's be having you lads.
Get that pre season button smashed.
good luck everyone this season
Correct he is/was from Israel. He just disappeared one day.
The vast majority of Haberman(n)s comes from certain regions of Greater Austria. So it would be quite possible that we share a common ancestor.
However given that I suspect that Yoav is of Jewish origin (given his first name and the missing 'n') - and that the Jewish and Catholic population haven't mixed too often traditionally, it's not too likely.
For all the good it will do me ππ
Only Raith Rovers, Dunfermline Athletic and Ayr United to do pre season.
Do you think Mark would bring forward the Trade Window opening if these 3 lads completed their pre season soonest? π€π€π€
John, you have to play on to earn the 5th and 6th spots - only 4 are guaranteed.
But you can thank me afterwards for your participation cash earnings for your post π°π°πππππ
David, thank goodness there are upto 6 promotion spots on offer.. ππ
(i'm teasing. I know what you meant by 4 spots ofcourse!)
π
When Dee and my lot were in the same divisions (3 and 2) we had low scoring good games, but they had the better results overall- and now you tell me they have a Pep Guardiola running them..
Thank goodness there are 4 promotion spots on offer.. ππ
As some of you know, Eduard is the coach of Starkville Bloodhounds in TMVL. He joined 2 and a half seasons ago and will lead them to their best ever season on Sunday.
He is also manager of Welling in U2 where his team tops the rankings, Division One and are in the semi-final of the FA Cup.
He may be a bit rusty but he'll have DEE in Division One before you know it.
Funnily enough, "what's in a letter" you say David?
Yoav Haberman (S12-18) was manager at STJ.
No relation to new DEE boss ofcourse.
Sorry Eduard - I pressed "send" before realising I had added a letter to your name.
Forgive me :-)
Welcome to the best division - I didn't say the top division, but the best. You and I have just come back down from the 1st so we should have a more productive season than last season - hoping so, or I might be out of a job pdq.
You will get back into the swing - and the lads here don't bite each other (that I am aware of!!)
Needing any advice - just ask.. :-)
Habermann, a word rarely spoken yet when mentioned, three come along at once!
Willkommen bei SESL. Genießen Sie die Spiele. Und wenn wir uns auf dem Platz treffen, freue ich mich über die 3 Punkte :-)
I can see your image OK, It is a pencil drawing of a childs head?
How do you force a website to reload images?
Quick hard refresh can be done by using the following shortcut keys:
Windows/Linux: Hold down Ctrl and β§ Shift and then press R.
Or, hold the Ctrl key and press the F5 key.
Obviously the photo upload has not quite worked yet ;-)
Div2 may rejoice - one serious opponent less.
Admittedly I do have vaguely remember some MSWL experience, sometimes in the last millenium.
So I have apparently a bit to learn. Enjoy your easy wins, for now.
Get your pre season done chaps, then we can get this trade window open open open
Season setup, bio's updated and a new fresh wind in my head. Ready to go.
Noticed the blog entry of Leon. Another FM addict here.
Off late I play a 11-tier English and 6 tier German database. Currently managing Uerdingen in the Oberliga (5th level). A former Bundesliga team, winning the cup and playing European football in the 80s.
They have taken a tumble.
Well good luck to all for the new season!
Back to no mid week league games, if I reading bottom left of front page correctly David.
And last 3 of the 5 Sesl cup group games are individual sessions a couple of days apart, so managers could go back in and rest players in match 4 or 5 perhaps if already qualified top 4 in sesl cup group.
Season all set up - lots of work and you've done it pretty quick. Appreciated all round as although I realised last Saturday we hadn't lost, I also realised we hadn't played.
i like the fact in the sponsorships every non winner will be on the default 100k for participation. But I'm guessing there is no cost for having this sponsor (as long as the club makes 100k in participation?)
Now I am away to see the fixtures for the midweeks....π
Welcome back, Bill. Your reign of terror with NYRB in OASL from when I first joined still lives in my memory. Sad to see that you'll be right back to beating me in Division 1 here.
Welcome, Raymond. With Clyde you will be well set up to have a successful start to your time here. Division 1 is a tough place to start off, but your team has the skill levels to do well even with the learning curve.
Best of luck to all in another great season ahead.
Welcome Ray (and Bill!)!
Like Leon I feel like I participate a lot more than what I actually post...
I have also tried lots of games and this one (and the other Olmec leagues) are my favorites, mainly thanks to the sense of community but also the Olmec engine/functionalities makes it feel like you are in more control of your team than any other game. (I am playing XpertEleven currently, but it is more about player development than anything and the tactics never seem to make a difference, also the play-by-play of Olmec is the best...)
Cheers!
I used to play many OSM's, but after a while they all get a bit boring somehow. Why i am still playing these good ol' Olmec games is quite simple. Community and ...graphics, or actually, the lack of it.
OSM, from Dutch origin I believe has a very slick layout, but after a few months you've seen it. Also, no continuity. Every few weeks you start over with a different team in a different competition....and it is 'pay to win'.
Another one would be hattrick, from Swedish origin. Also a bit like pay to win, less graphical then osm, but the community (forum) is too big. The smaller division forum too inactive and constantly changing due to promotion/relegation. I played this for years, off and on, but lost interest.
Although I'm not super vocally active in Olmec, I do read everything and I do feel like I know (almost) every single person in here...for years.
The one game that gets more of my attention than this one is the FM series. I can play this 9 months straight, every year again. Building your own database (right now playing a BeNeLiga game where the Dutch and Belgian leagues have merged) or download something more complex like a twelve tier world super league.
What's the next (to Olmec) best OSM out there in your opinion?
@David Blair: Derek Purvis plays also in my games and he is very active too. My games are different from this game. One is on football predictions and the other is a fantasy one. At the moment there are no vacant places, but if yoou have a couple of minutes I suggest to take a look at them.
https://weekendpredictions-eu.jimdofree.com [football predictions]
https://fantasy-league-50-goals.mozello.com
Once you get the hang of this there's a couple of similar games (SFLSL and OASL) you can try (slightly different rules but the basic match engine is the same).
And then there's Al Sellers two United games (I've feeling you will have played United) and also TMVL (a brilliant volleyball game).
I am sure he'll not mind me mentioning it but we have a lad who is in a large number of online football games- that right Derek (Purves)?
I have played in many a game - each has their own quirks and I like to investigate the opposition. Almost every time I looked at a game, there was Derek running a club. And why not?
So good luck with the game Raymond, at least the players you have will get you through games even if you are still experimenting with formations and tactics, plus us "elder statesmen" need to stick together. πππ
Thanks guys for your messages.
@David Blair: it's not enough that the previous manager of Clyde FC left me a good side. The most important thing is that I am still not settled with the tacticts and tricks of the game and most probably my matches will have results similar to tennis or waterpolo. I can feel that.
@Bill Ramsay: It is daunting at least for me, we have to see how it goes.
@Ricky Hawthron: I love your joke. I think you need to reload alexia :))
Welcome Ray
10 other games??
Other games??
There are other games online like SESL??
What?
What???
**alexa show me online football games**
SESL
SESL
SESL
??
It's not as daunting as it first seems.
Take a few weeks/months and you will be hooked!
Best of luck.
The previous Clyde manager has left you a side that has the 4th best T11 and the BEST T17 in all of the 48 teams, so I'm guessing you could be treated as one of the favourites to win the top division.
Yes, lots of menus but it really means you only things you don't do with your players is operate their private lives or drive them to the names. You can tap away to your hearts content and use the 2 weeks from today to see what you are aiming for. Mark will have set you up pre season no doubt so you are ready to go.. ππ
War & Peace : 418/1215
Hi All,
I am a new manager here, thanks to Mark who persuaded me to try the game. I am a pensioner and lives in Malta. I love playing online browser football manager games, and presently I participate in about 10 other games.
SESL is very different from the ones I play and it seems a bit different from other games. There are too much dragdown boxes :)) Well, I'll give it a try.
Good luck to all managers for the coming season.
Ray
8 wins off 500 - only achieved by 18 managers in SESL (13 still playing). Fran at Brechin is on 498 and Jason at Elgin on 497 and as they play each other in the Cecil Cup it's likely one or both will reach 500 first.
Bill had 473 wins in OASL with a 0.747 percent score. Is that good? Well the best in SESL is Dave Smyth at 0.723 and we all know how good he is.
Bill,
Have you been away?
And here was at least 6 teams all thinking they had a chance of winning a cup - not now.
Seriously - welcome back.. π₯³π₯³π₯³π₯³π₯³π₯³
Looks like you had over 25 seasons at Inverness.
Wow.
Welcome back Bill
Cheers rob
I can't remember how long ago it was that I hung up my SOS managerial boots, but it feels like a very long time ago.
Surely season 56 sounds like a nice number for Rangers.
Good luck all. Cheers.
Welcome to season 56.
OTF has been added now to those who won it end of last season for Fair Play,
Managers of the Season, and Prediction League
Morale bonus been added.
First 3 auctions will be per division to give each division a fair chance to acquire an auction player.
Auction 1 for Div 3 teams only
AUCTION #1 Deadline: Wed, Mar 06: 1930 teams participating |
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LOT | INFORMATION | ||
1. | 4 | 25 | DF |
2. | 3 | 20 | FW |
3. | 2 | 18 | DF |
4. | 1 | 16 | MF |
5. | 0 | 9 | DF |
6. | 0 | 8 | MF |
7. | 0 | 7 | WG |
8. | 0 | 7 | FW |
Short of cash for auctions?
Click on "Update About" and "Update Bio" on your team page and earn the easiest 200k ever.
I will be looking for the usual "About" update which can be about your sesl team.
Bio updates tend to be about your job, family, real life teams, and whatever you wish.
Upto 100k for each.
You need add season 56 update, and/or add a date. Type something recent so i know its fresh.
No need to blog when you do update, as I will check each team in turn anyway.
Sunday 3rd March I will pay the initial sums.
Sunday 10th March will be the 2nd payout.
Updates etc all complete for PT. Good luck everybody.
And half of the teams are there.
Richie at NAI did this last season for a few teams I think. Yet still got promoted. Remarkable.
I'd think more 3rd division managers ought be offering to train up a few 0/5 players and selling them on for a profit.
Age 5+ for your Captain Steve.
Years ago I was in the 3rd division and offered my services to train up 0/5 players. It went well and all of us made a profit - the higher club didn't suffer losses whilst training and I bought at 200k and it became a plan.
I have a GK coming at the beginning of the season having been trained up in Ayrshire, and he'll be made very welcome. Thanks to Killie!! ππ
PS I also have a 1/14 Bosman if anybody fancies him (state name and position) inbox me or email me asap as I need to sign him up for my preseason. Would like TPs (or cash) please - 5 TPS or 450k cash?
I meant to sign a MF bosman, not a FW. Also to change my captain to David Templeton. Could comish correct, please.
Thank you John, makes sense.
Now anxiously waiting for the cash-for-oldies window...
No GK option. I asked this before. Reason was too many teams all had 2 big GKs so was thought to be "too easy" to bring in a bosman 1/14 or 1/16 type GK.
Div 3 teams ought take advantage of this and buy a 0/5 GK each season to train up and sell to a higher division. One team did this last few months- might have been NAI. Very clever initiative and benefits selling club and the higher up buying club too.
Is there a reason for the bossman to have to be an outfielder?
Would really like to have it be a GK this season for FOR...
See below, a deal is done
Bosman 1/14 available, 450k or nearest offer....you can choose name and position
After intense late night talks between the manager and the Queens Park board, the QP board has been convinced by manager Bryce Kalmbach's rebuilding plans and given a second chance to the recipient of S55's wooden spoon. Manager Kalmbach will need to convince the fans but he issued a statement saying he is confident that he can put together the team to move QP back up the divisions in a more sustainable way than their recent yo-yo to the top and back.
David, as you noticed we had a (potentially) costly miss in the last round of the Prediction League. Fortunately since Nottingham Forest has shown that you can have an analyst for everything on your staff, including the referee, we have hired SESL's first Prediction League Analyst here at QP to make sure it doesn't happen again.
PRE SEASON PROCESS
open until 2nd March 2024, 12:00 hrs
Click on "Transactions" and then button "pre season"
Select your team captain age 5+ (drop down list)
CP purchase (drop down list)
Free bosman player: select position (drop down box),
type in a name,
select a nationality
Click button "Submit preseason"
No trades until Pre season orders are done for all teams
The following teams receive Robin Hood 4000k maximum through :
BER(10) DEV(10) QP(10) RAN(-10) STJ(-30) STI(10)
I know it would be almost impossible to put in, but wouldn't it be good to be able to have a pre-season friendly against a team say next to you in the League (or one with an almost equal T17), so you could parade your post PSA lads and the new recruits?
I know it would likely mean a -1 or -2 on the players used ELs but perhaps that could be compensated (or the programme altered to accommodate) - and no team could use aggressive tactics (that's me knackered...).
Anyway just a thought - easy to do the fixtures for the one game but maybe too difficult to do the programming....
First of all, thanks to Alan for running this competition - quite a bit of work, but rewarding I am sure... :-)
Secondly we at Hibs are delighted to get 3rd equal place after our week 3 debacle (3 points) which left us a mountain to climb (ie the table). Happy with even 1 OTF.
Thirdly I can't help thinking that if Queens Park had not missed his ONLY miss he might have been enjoying a good bonus - mind you that would have pushed HIBs out of a prize, so maybe better I don't mention this...
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Feb 18th:
AI(20) ALB(45) ALO(50) BRE(20) CB(20) COW(30) EF(50) EDI(25) FOR(20) HIB(50) LIV(45) MON(20) MOT(45) NAI(20) RR(15) RAN(10) STJ(30) STE(50) SRA(25)
It was the tightest Prediction league in living memory, in many ways mirroring the SESL leagues proper.
In the end though there can only be one winner... In fact scrap that, there can be multiple winners. In this case 3.
East Fife and East Stirling did their best to let others get some top action but in the end only Stirling Albion took advantage. The Easties scoring who went into the final week joint top managed a below average 4 points. Stirling taking advantage and helping secure a joint first place alongside the aforementioned.
For Cowdenbeath it was yet another final day agony, missing out by a single point, mirroring their SESL league agony. Solo second decent enough solace.
we then had a pile up of various clubs taking joint 3rd, 4th and 5th. Too many to mention but good to see teams getting awards for their Preditction League efforts.
Final league table here. Any errors please inbox me. Not impossible as my eyes are sore from crying all week at Cowdenbeaths last 4 matches.
Noteable mention to our fantasy player Steady Eddie. Joint top. Seems taking the obvious picks over the course of a season works.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 10 Winners:
NAI(100)
Week 10 results are in. A pretty average week in terms of scoring, but consequences not so much.
Average score was 5.48. Average score from all the rounds was 5.58. So very average average score.
5 matches had 75% or more of the entries choosing the same outcome. 4 went to plan. Stenhousemuir winning away to Forfar upsetting the apple cart.
However we had a couple of draws in there that put the cat amongst the pigeons. Only 12% predicting draws in the Berwick v Peterhead and 12% in the Dunfermline v St. Mirren tie. The latter in particular a sore one for some. 72% had that as an away win.
That pretty much the chances of a perfect score near impossible but one team came close. They actually had Peterhead winning at Berwick. A game that had draw written all over it. 44% for the home win, 44% for the away win.
Banker watch, Airdrie at home to Dundee United proved most popular, 40% of entries opting for the diamonds. No real banker shocks in play this week.
Steady Eddie therefore managed 6 points. Still above the average score.
Onto our winners, step forward Nairn, a very impressive 8 from 9. Good going with a couple of draws and a shock result.
Happy to give this a bit more thought to pitch in comments on the other topics raised by managers here.
The topic most recently top of mind that I'll expound on a bit is the end of season awards and how they interact with Robin Hood. In the Div. 1 manager of the season vote, I saw very little incentive to vote for St. Johnstone (who clearly deserve the award with their double) just simply because the award will just turn into 50k for four division 3 clubs and St. Johnstone won't see any benefit. I'm not sure if the solution is to convert extra awards into CP/TP or whether it makes sense to adjust the awards rules to work with it, but it's an odd little corner case there that seems to be coming up more between awards and sponsorships.
The following teams receive Sponsorship success through :
ROS(100)
The following teams receive Robin Hood 4000k maximum through :
BER(127) DEV(127) FRA(-200) QP(127) RAN(-107) STJ(-200) STI(127)
The following teams receive Sponsorship success through :
ALO(100) ANN(300) ARB(300) AYR(300) BRE(200) COW(500) DUM(200) DUU(500) EF(300) EDI(100) ELG(200) FAL(200) FRA(300) HAM(200) HIB(300) INV(400) KIL(400) LIV(500) MOT(500) NAI(200) PET(100) QP(300) RAN(500) STJ(200) STE(500) STI(200) SRA(400)
1 Team league goals for >=50 500k RAN -- LIV -- STE 2 1 player >=4 Man ofthe Match 500k MOT -- COW -- DUU 3 Top 6 league finish 400k -- INV -- 4 3 clean sheets in a row 400k -- SRA -- KIL 5 Unbeaten streak of 3 matches 300k ARB -- EF -- AYR 6 Last 16 in either Cup 300k FRA -- ANN -- QP 7 Have >=3 age0 SL10+ 300k HIB -- -- 8 Team DP <= 200 200k STJ -- DUM -- STI 9 Win >= 10 league games 200k -- BRE&HAM-- FAL 10 No NMRs for whole 200k ELG -- -- NAI 11 Team league goals for >=25 100k EDI -- -- PET 12 Earn 100k in participation 100k -- ALO --
missing out: CLY, EST, HEA, CB, ROS
SESL gripes and praise
Some of the stuff below has already been mentioned, but I did this Saturday and was going to wait till Monday to post. But here goes:
What season too fast? Too slow? Didn't make a massive difference to me.
Too many auctions? Or not enough auctions? Again no issue's here but usually don't have enough cash to compete
Randomness of some matches frustrating? Of course it is but its a big part of the game , if the team with the best numbers always won it would get boring pretty quickly
End of season awards too high? Rich get richer but there has to be a benefit to doing well
Awards could be top 3 rather than top only position that pays out? Or sliding scale for all teams
Agree with John, the Div-3 bossmen are ok, the others are not. Maybe an age 0 would be more interesting?
Want to at least take a minute and say that I love this game!
I second everything that Steve pointed out too!
Sorry was not as participative as I'd want, but RL has been really interesting lately...
More than 30 teams scored over 50 league goals, so is team sponsoship too easy?
Could it be easiest 476k profit ever made in Sesl history for LIV.
All 48 teams having a sponsor sounds good, but not sure how to adminster this.
Could be interesting and motivating for all teams to have a target.
ANN & QP maybe had the added motivation to strive for their last 16 placing in the sesl cup? Would those teams normally have focused on league placing, same as FRA, but with 300k sponsorship I'd like know if ANN, FRA or QP made extra effort in cup, and rightly so.
Bosmans - agree with Ricky Stenny - these 1/8 players were traded for under 100k. Even a 1/10 Bosman seems pretty worthless and I'm agast when seeing a team bother to waste 10 TP on such poor players.
Add 3 or 4 SL to each Bosman perhaps, as even a 1/16 Bosman is not going to ever be a superstar, but a 1/20 would make an impact to lower teams.
Capain/Mentors - idea from Paul the Fifer (east variety) is intriguing.
How about every age 0 or age 1 player in a roster on season end adds 1 SL to the team captain at end of season as if these kids were mentored by a Captain at the club.
May keep some key older players in the game a bit longer with this small SL boost (majority SL lost at end of season aging remember). Could be tactical as a manager could change Captain towards end of season so a certain player benefited from this oldie SL boost?
Very manual process though, sadly.
I liked the Division only auctions too.
Team sponsorship I forgot about. So have missed out. Could each team and every team pick a sponsor and pay half the payout potential?
I thought the season was too fast first half and went much better with the old slower schedule in the second half. Two league games on a Wednsday was too much. I like to work out both games on the computer and can't guarantee getting computer access midweek and so it tends to be guesswork.
The nine day wait from league game 16 to the first SESL Cup group game on Christmas Day, to allow for the Cecil Cup semis and final, was too much - I forgot about SESL. Also two games on Christmas Day was not good: I may be old but I still have young family and the run up to Christmas is very busy so I NMRd in games 1,2 and 4. Luckily for me Roy NMR'd in games 3 and 4.
Two games on Saturday has always been the way and I wouldn't change that.
Auctions seem to be about right - there weren't too many silly bargains to be had and most were competitive. I liked the Division only auctions.
Yes the randomness of the matches can be frustrating and we all complain when we get the wrong side of Olmec in all these games but the better teams do tend to win more. I'm not sure anything could be done anyway.
End of season awards:
Fair play award is frustrating when I play passive so much and never play aggressive but can't ever seem to win this +2 OTF = 4 CP = 400k+ is a big bonus.
Golden Gloves is interesting in that this season went to teams that all did well, usually it's a rubbish team with a good GK that wins it. I think the formula is broken (too reliant on shots faced) but I don't know if it can be changed.
Golden Boot - perhaps too high, I think 200k for top and 100k for second.
Over Achievers - again probably a bit high even though we, Alloa, need it. The main problem with this is it benefits the teams that start weak most. Even if Motherwell had won the league they wouldn't have won this award. I also think tier this, maybe 300k, 200k, 100k. If Dumbarton had drawn their last game they'd have tied with us on +8. If Cowdenbeath had beaten us three teams would have been tied on +6. Note if tiering then if two teams tie for 1st then the 3rd best comes 3rd and not 2nd. I also feel T11 should be involved as well - maybe T11+T17 rather than just T17. When I used to make predictions I used T11+T17/2+CP+cash/100 (after pre-season orders) but I'm not suggesting anything that complicated.
Robin Hood - no problem with the cap, not opposed to Paul's tax suggestion (used in United) either, but I do think the cash should be lost. From the sponsorship STJ have 200k, FRA 300k and RAN 500k which will take them all above 4000k giving another 126k to the bottom four teams.
I would like to see some players with special characteristics in auctions....e.g.
Player ages one level less than normal post season
Player's 5th & 10th coaching each raise them two levels
Player popular with fans, earns extra 20k whenever he plays 90 minutes
Mentor player, earns extra TP whenever he plays 90 minutes
Coach : Age 4+ players age one level less at MSA and post season
Lots of possibilities, I imagine would require manual intervention but I think would add an extra dimension to the game
I am happy with the speed of the season but I dislike playing two matches on the same day. If we are playing five matches a week why not play them on on five different days?
OK with awards, number of auctions.
As previously blogged, I hate the cap on cash at 4000k. Tax rich clubs by all means but not at 100%. And I don't see why taxed money should go to the lowest ranked clubs, just remove it from the game.
Finally, I don't like the randomness and I find it difficult to believe that the shot chance displayed in the viewer is accurate. Is the random number generator really random? It feels like a dice with sides labelled 6,6,5,2,1,1. Random, yes. Evenly distributed, no. I doubt that anything can be done about this, though, so not really worth worrying about.
Finally finally....I love the game!
Wonder if the speed is one of the reasons Stewart has had enough
The season can't go faster - we play midweeks and weekends, and in fact I would seek a week longer per season.
I DON'T like the weekend where we play the CECIL Cup Final on a Saturday - Saturdays are for league matches and the only weekend I'd allow for non weekend league games is the one where we play SESL Cup matches.
(if you are out of the Cecil Cup before the last 8 you don't have a game for at least a week and a half.
i plan to send more ideas in but on Monday.. ππππ
If it gets any quicker I'm offski!
I wouldnt want the season to be any slower. I liked the extra league games slotted in. I'd be happy to go quicker, but i guess most wouldnt.
Auctions feel OK to me. Potentially more wouldnt be an issue. It's simply supply an demanc isnt it. More would just reduce the average price and increase the avaerage SL of teams, but across the board so no issues.
End of Season awards, all good for me.
Randomness - I really dont see the issue with this. If it was a lot more predictable (based on numbers and stats) then it would be pointless playing? I'd argue that if you were looking at the Premier League ("The best league in the world") as a fictitious game, then people would say it was stupidly 'random' because 'anyone can beat anyone' - which is why its widly regarded as the best league. Yet several teams end up winning titles repeatedly....?
I like the 'converting oldies' - i think getting deadwood out the game and regenerating youth is sensible.
One thing i would like to see changed is the Bosmans. If you finish bottom of division 3 you get a useful player. Otherwise the players arent generally used long term. We need to either provide players that clubs are willing to invest in and TP up, or maybe give an older player that can be used, but with less long term value than the players given for finishing bottom (ie. tiering it is still the right thing to do)
Season - personally too slow but aware im potentially in the minority for that.
Auctions - dont have any educated opinions on, like the each division only auctions at the start at gives everyone a bite.
Randomness - whilst frustrating when your the (statistically) better team and you dont win, the game is essentially a roll of dice so sometimes its going to fall against you. Ive absolutely nothing to back this up but the outcomes have to be generally be as expected over the course of the season.
End of Season awards - havent overly paid attention to this but AI getting 900k seems excessive (sorry AI)
As dust settles on season 55, I keen to read your feedback on what worked this season in Sesl, or any general comments.
What season too fast? Too slow?
Too many auctions? Or not enough auctions?
Randomness of some matches frustrating?
End of season awards too high?
Awards could be top 3 rather than top only position that pays out?
Couple of managers already inboxed me feedback, so that's an option. But I happy for comments to go on blog for all to read.
Slow and steady
In my spare moments from making great progress on the jigsaw I am reading "War and Peace". 346 of 1215 pages read so far. Which will I finish first?
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 52:
Arbroath - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwW)
Worth getting your votes in guys, it might make a difference...
We mentioned it a little while ago... Did we reach a conclusion as to whether we could add a few 000's on the end of all our cash figures to make the figures more representive of real life?
Thanks... :-)
Used to be several thousand K spread around basement of Div 3.
What has changed this season?
The following teams receive Awards through :
STE(200)
Are those payments supposed to cover all of part 1?
If so I think STE should be 600 not 400
The following teams receive Robin Hood 4000k maximum through :
BER(7) DEV(7) QP(7) STJ(-25) STI(7)
The following teams receive SESL Officer Duties through :
COW(400) MOT(300)
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through to match 51:
EF(300) HIB(300) RAN(300)
The following teams receive Awards through season 55:
AI(900) ALB(700) ALO(600) ANN(300) ARB(300) BRE(200) CB(200) COW(300) DUM(300) ELG(100) FRA(400) INV(200) LIV(200) PET(300) RAN(200) STE(400)
.....
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Super Gracie. 6th in Div 1. Now to look where that other team finished.....
Some awards noted below.
(OTF is added at start of next season so not lost via end of season aging)
Motale Bonus also added at start of new season.
Over achievers 400k each Top17 start v league table finish Alon Atie FRA +10 league places Div 1 Steve Turner ALO + 8 league places Div 2 Kev Hull AI +13 league places Div 3
Golden Boot
Golden Boot 300k Div 1 Jim Jeffries (FW) ALB 27
Silver Boot 300k Div 2 Mownt Taranaki (FW) ANN 23
Bronze Boot 300k Div 3 Bright Prince (FW) AI 29
Most man of the Match 200k
Nacho Novo (FW) RAN 10 Div 1
Gracie (GK) ALB 10 Div 1
Wilson BRE, Moore CB, Cantwell LIV
Offord ALO, and Crowley DUM 8 Div 2
Bright Prince (FW) AI 9 Div 3
Golden Gloves
Golden Gloves 200k Div 1 Gracie ALB 100.5
Silver Gloves 200k Div 2 Cammy MacKay INV 80.5
Bronze Gloves 200k Div 3 Holland STE 84.7
Worst Shooter Squib 100k
Robin Ro (MF) ELG 0/16 Div 1
Adam Kirby (DF) DUM 0/11 Div 2
Billy Gilmour (MF) STE 0/13 Div 3
Rookie Hotshot age 0 + age 1 300k
Paul Furlong (FW) ARB 10 Div 1
Connor McMillan (FW) COW 17 Div 2
Hungary (MF) STE 12 Div 3
Tom Brady (FW) PET 12 Div 3
add OTF start of new season:-
Fair Play Team Award +2 OTF
98 DP FRA Div 1
88 DP ANN Div 2
90 DP BER Div 3
to follow:
Prediction League top 5 winners
Manager of Season per division poll votes
The stats displayed on website appear limited to display up to 99.9 max.
ALB Gracie Golden Gloves rating I have manually worked out at 100.45
calculation based on Goals Against (GA) 31, from 160 Shots Faced (SF):-
so 1 minus GA/SF is 1 less 0.194 = 0.806. times 75 = 60.45 plus SF/4 (40) = 100.45 rating
Compared to ELG GK Daniel Hoban displaying first on stats page: GA 35 from 128 Shots Faced
is 1 minus 0.273 x 75 = 54.525 + 32 = 86.5 rating
So ALB Gracie Golden Gloves rating is 100.45 so wins award
I was initially concerned by David's comments on slipped performance. I thought well, if it's all about performance then I definitely should exit stage left.
But giving it some further thought, my performance has never slipped. ...its always been rubbish :-)
Plodding on as always
The fans have asked me to step down countless times, but i won't quit until I win the treble. Haha.
Gracie at ALB gets the award but ALB are in Division 1
Hopefully the soon to be announced Poll ("should Stewart be allowed to leave???") would let you know you can't leave the game.. You are in with the bricks and would be seriously missed if you were to leave.
You have been very successful, and hopefully your announcement isn't due to you feeling you had slipped of late - (if that were the criteria for leaving Mark would be left with about 8 managers, and I wouldn't be one of them!!).
If you feel you were getting a bit stale - heaven forbid with the team you have - then go for a lost cause and enjoy bringing that team up. If it is the name Rangers you revere, and your player names seem to indicate that might be the case, then seek a change with either of the 2 ...... Rangers in the League - either lad might be happy to assume the mantel of taking over one of SESL's top teams.
But at least consider the friends you have here in SESL, and stay...
Based on a team rank on Top 17 at season start, and then what place in league table at season end.
e.g. Clyde were the best ranked team based on Top 17 statistic suggesting roster squad strength.
CLY went on to finish in 8th place in league table, so a minus -7 rank suggesting under achieved by 7 league tables places.
- Division 1 | Top 17 | league finish | over / under achiever | ||
top 17 starting rank | |||||
1 | Clyde FC | 23.8 | 8 | -7 | |
2 | Saint Johnstone | 23.4 | 1 | 1 | |
3 | Hearts | 23.4 | 7 | -4 | |
4 | Celtic | 23.2 | 3 | 1 | |
5 | Cove Rangers | 23.0 | 13 | -8 | under achiever |
6 | Rangers | 22.8 | 5 | 1 | |
7 | Motherwell | 22.7 | 2 | 5 | |
8 | Dundee FC | 22.7 | 14 | -6 | |
9 | Greenock Morton | 21.5 | 11 | -2 | |
10 | Edinburgh City | 21.1 | 10 | 0 | |
11 | Hibernian | 20.4 | 16 | -5 | |
12 | Raith Rovers | 20.3 | 9 | 3 | |
13 | Albion Rovers | 19.8 | 6 | 7 | |
14 | Fraserburgh | 19.7 | 4 | 10 | OVER achiever |
15 | Arbroath | 19.6 | 12 | 3 | |
16 | Elgin City | 19.2 | 15 | 1 | |
- Division 2 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | |||||
1 | Livingston | 21.6 | 1 | 0 | |
2 | Clydebank | 21.4 | 8 | -6 | |
3 | Inverness | 21.2 | 2 | 1 | |
4 | Brechin City | 21.1 | 11 | -7 | under achiever |
5 | Stranraer | 20.9 | 10 | -5 | |
6 | Aberdeen | 20.7 | 3 | 3 | |
7 | Annan Athletic | 19.9 | 9 | -2 | |
8 | Ross County | 19.6 | 14 | -6 | |
9 | Cowdenbeath | 19.4 | 6 | 3 | |
10 | East Fife | 19.2 | 12 | -2 | |
11 | Hamilton Accies | 18.8 | 5 | 6 | |
12 | Alloa Athletic | 18.6 | 4 | 8 | OVER achiever |
13 | Dumbarton | 18.5 | 7 | 6 | |
14 | Partick Thistle | 18.3 | 16 | -2 | |
15 | Montrose | 18.1 | 13 | 2 | |
16 | Queen of the South | 17.9 | 15 | 1 | |
- Division 3 | |||||
top 17 starting rank | |||||
1 | Dunfermline Athletic | 20.9 | 11 | -10 | |
2 | Stenhousemuir | 20.8 | 1 | 1 | |
3 | Berwick | 19.8 | 15 | -12 | under achiever |
4 | Nairn County | 19.8 | 6 | -2 | |
5 | Falkirk | 19.8 | 4 | 1 | |
6 | Saint Mirren | 19.7 | 5 | 1 | |
7 | Kilmarnock | 19.3 | 12 | -5 | |
8 | Ayr United | 19.2 | 3 | 5 | |
9 | East Stirlingshire | 18.9 | 10 | -1 | |
10 | Forfar Athletic | 18.7 | 9 | 1 | |
11 | Deveronvale | 17.6 | 13 | -2 | |
12 | Dundee United | 17.4 | 8 | 4 | |
13 | Queens Park | 17.4 | 16 | -3 | |
14 | Stirling | 16.5 | 14 | 0 | |
15 | Airdrieonians FC | 15.8 | 2 | 13 | OVER achiever |
16 | Peterhead | 15.2 | 7 | 9 |
RAN have built up an impressive age 1 super stars in waiting.
Hope Stewart may change his mind and stay and build upon what foundations he has began creating with that impressive roster.
Yeah some results go against your team, but similar number go in your favour over a season.
It's no coinceidence Stewart consistantly did so well in prediction league, suggesting game isn't as random as he may fear.
WHAT?!?! Surely a fake post?
All at SRA wish you well in your future endeavours (unless it is to SRA?). Liverpool? The real Gers??
A million Cups is a very good testament to one of the best Managers ever!
Best wishes
Andrew
RAN's season has come to an end. My last orders have been posted and my last duties have been discharged so now is the time to bring down the final curtain on my SESL career. I've enjoyed crossing swords with you all over the years and I wish everybody awerabest!
The tactics calculation uses the original values from when this simulator was created. WG OFF for EC used to be 1.75 but this was changed in 2008 to 1.60 but the calculation was not changed. The calculation also doesn't take into account the 0.05 bonus per attacker that a WG gets, nor does it allow for morale nor home bonus.
The calculation rounds to the nearest whole number - the match rounds to two decimal places.
Code was added to allow Commishes to change these values but SFLSL has stuck with the original values (1.60 for EC). Check Parameters->Tactics for the correct values but Wiki has the correct BC MF bonus which doesn't figure in the line-up page calculation (because it doesn't know how many MFs your opponent will pkay).
Thanks Steve. That's Early Cross sorted. Looks like the OFF WG factor is 1.75 and not 1.6.
There are some inconsistencies. The OTF factor on the Features -> Tactics looks wrong and wiki correct. You can tell when you go straight to the lineup without entering any players.
My Ball Control DEF are looking much better, still out, less than 5% though.
Press without a sweeper is slightly out still too.
Might be down to how the numbers are bring rounded, not entirely clear how that's done.
Alan, click on Features top right of page. Then Parameters then Tactics far right. The numbers for GP SW and DF are the wrong way round but otherwise correct.
Having a play with a spreadsheet but can't get the sheet to match lineup values for
Using the following table, just wanting to check that it's up to date?
I'd love to have a go in a competition like that.........but I know I would go to pieces.......
1 hour and 52 minutes - I am sure I could fit a piece in that time...with only 999 pieces to go. :-)
Ye gods...the winner of the British jigsaw championships 2023 competed a 1000 piece jigsaw in 1 hour 52 minutes which is about 9 pieces per minute. Don't think I'm in that league, I done one piece so far today....
I remember Yoav - and he must have played other games than SASO - as I don't think I was ever in that one.
But must say I think I followed your advice, Steve, in stopping before MSA at 19 and 29, to save losiong a TP or CP when the dreaded mid season slaughter happened. And then before PSA making sure I didn'tm get to 31 or 26 if I could help it. But I take the point about GKs and good Forwards getting them all and hopefully getting the results in before the half way point.
I hadn't realised there was a name for a doer of jigsaws until last week and a Radio 4 feature on them (1hr 42 mins in on 9th February's episode.) There is even a world championship and Marcus Rashford when not clubbing in Ireland is also a big fan.
The British Championships are 23rd June in Newmarket! Maybe Paul will represent us all and become Britain's top Dissectologist?
Great progress this week!
I remember him - manager of Liverpool I think. There's a maxim in these games: see what the best managers do and copy them. We'll I copied what Yoav did and still do today - I used to stop at SL 29 up to MSA but Yoav didn't for his GK and FWs. It costs you 1 SL after MSA but he always got 10 PU on his GK by match 10.
Very much appreciate all the votes guys.
As some of you may recollect from giving me advice, AI had a rejig at the end of last season in order to develop this season, then push on for promotion next season. Luckily for us, the promotion part happened a season early!
We never, ever imagined ourselves to finish 2nd, let alone be in the fight for champions, so to be where we are is way above our expectations. Congratulations to STE on an exciting finish to the season and being crowned champions. You deserved it much more than we did. It was close, but ultimately our thin squad and the need to use EL levels to an inch of their life cost us in the end. However i'm still absolutely delighted with the boys and how much they have progressed the team this campaign.
Oh and Steve, if i was 25 years younger and had no kids, i'd have a go at bringing back SaSo! ;o) but far too old now. Does anyone by any chance remember Yoav Haberman? I remember him being top boy at SaSo!
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Feb 11th:
ALB(15) ALO(50) BRE(10) COW(50) EF(45) EDI(45) FAL(15) HEA(35) HIB(50) LIV(25) MOT(40) PET(10) RAN(25) STJ(15) STE(45)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Feb 4th:
ALO(25) BRE(15) COW(50) EF(50) EDI(35) FAL(15) FRA(15) HEA(30) HIB(50) LIV(10) MOT(50) QP(25) RAN(50) ROS(25) STJ(10) SRA(15)
Congrats to Mark on a well deserved title win to go with his cup! Very impressive season. Glad we could give you a run for it - was a very exciting season for us.
Also a big congrats to winners and promoted sides in divisions 2 and 3. Hoping for some exciting playoff matches, as well.
The following teams receive Robin Hood 4000k maximum through :
BER(116) DEV(116) QP(116) STJ(-466) STI(116)
It is indeed a done deal! :-)
Congrats to the SESL Champions Mark - a flawless title run in! Andrew and MOT pushed it hard, but you cant argue with that run in at the end!
And congrats to Mr. Bushby & Mr. Tucker securing another season in the top flight by goal differnece!
Congrats to John and Livingston, who in the end were comfortable, but Josh and Ross kept them honest to the end! I'm lookin gforward to the play-offs too - plenty to play for, for some!
... could be ended soon.
A landslide.
So far.
Poll vote on front page now
I'll check database when i'm home tomorrow,
and see if the rating is listed there, but oddly not showing on the final stats.
Was on 93.2 I think before last session fail to understand how it's dropped of the list unless it something to do with the injury?
How has my Gk Gracie disappeared off the top 10 when been winning it all season. Had a clean sheet in first game then only let 3 in last game???
I never wanted to influence the outcome of the Div 1 league title today.
Team with biggest heart was maybe going to triumph.
As for my Hearts, they are on the slide. Again.
Back again next season to try a new team tactic.
Marvellous association football on show today.
Div 2 play for 4th spot was a bit bonkers and bizarre for some teams.
All is forgiven.
Whoop!
Hoping COW and HAM also get promoted.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 51:
Aberdeen - MVP #6: 25k (dWw)
Falkirk - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
Saint Mirren - MVP #4: 1 CP (WdW)
Stenhousemuir - MVP #6: 25k (WwW)
COW vs ALO winner takes all, a draw and ALO probably loses play-off spot and almost certainly DUM or HAM take over 4th from COW. 10 minutes to go.
4 way tie to claim 4th promotion place out of Div 2.
Wow.
Tough on Alo.
Team set up well, and almost only threat not man- marked the one to score π
Spoilers - wait too late.
First Olmec injures my star silver boot bound star forward after 14 minutes while on 3 EL, it then injures my SL 29 MF on 61 minutes while on 3 EL with a -8 injury. We deserved better than that.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 50:
Elgin City - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (dWW)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #11: 25k (wwW)
Livingston - MVP #9: 25k (WWw)
Peterhead - MVP #6: 25k (dWw)
Good luck to the top 2 teams in all three divisions that could still win their league championship today.
And 3rd place CEL might turn their recent fortunes on the head and CEL may yet still win Div 1.
It looks very tight at the top.
East Fife and East Stirlingshire are tied at the top, EST on a great wee run. They hold a sight advangate as they still have a 5 to come off their counting score. East Fife will lose a 6 assuming they better it.
Pushing them hard are Cowdenbeath and Stirling, a solitary point behind. They also have a 5 to come off.
Rangers will be kicking themselves only scoring a 6 this week, but they too have a 5 to come off and with a decent week can easily still take top spot.
A reminder that if teams finish equal then they all get the prize, so with things being so tight at the top there's a chance there could be plenty teams walking away with a decent prize.
Week 10 is on the Notebook.
Any queries inbox me. :-)
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 9 Winners:
EST(100) HAM(100) HEA(100)
From last week's results blog
"So for the first time this season, and possibly ever, there was no shock result. All popular opinion came true. This means Steady Eddie got a perfect 9 points."
Guess what happened this week? Yeah same again. Though you could make an argument that the Stranraer away win at Brechin was not the popular vote with 48%. It was still the highest vote though.
Average score didn't reach the dizzy heights of last week but we had a score of 7.14, which happens to be the 2nd highest score since rcords began (well mine at least).
So Steady Eddie picks up another 9 points... along with 3 other teams. One of whom scored a perfect 9 the week previous.
For the first time we had a banker vote tie. Cowdenbeath and Annan both getting 38% of the vote. Both won.
So our winners. Hamilton, Hearts and the 2 in a row East Stirlingshire. 100k each for getting a max score.
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 49:
AI(300) ELG(100) FAL(200) FRA(200) HIB(300) INV(100) MOT(100) STJ(300) SRA(300)
The following teams receive Betting on Cup Final through :
AI(-100) ALB(-100) ANN(-100) BRE(-100) CB(-100) COW(-100) EF(-100) ELG(-100) FAL(-100) FRA(-100) HAM(-100) HIB(-100) INV(-100) LIV(-100) MOT(-100) STJ(-100) SRA(-100)
I gave my wife the lovely gift of some stones so perhaps I deserve the jigsaw. She's not helping with it no, she'd only muck up my system anyway. And I did do a piece this morning!
That's a cruel wife, what did you give her to deserve this? A mop? A set of scales? I hope at least she's mucking through it with you.
It is a picture of various sea creatures, and submarines. Just outline, in dark brown, over a light brown background.
It is a picture of various sea creatures, and submarines. Just outline, in dark brown, over a light brown background.
The final round is open for entry in the Notebook section.
Apologies for not yet posting last weeks results up yet, initial look suggests some high scores again. :-)
Busy with work and other stuff this week but hope to get the results up later tonight for round 9.
Is this a jigsaw of the night sky!?
Great to have title go right down to last league session.
Obviously you'll play T11 in both games. Of course Celtic will be happy to see that as they play the bottom two sides.
That STJ fixture sure looks like a tough one. Away to the league leaders? Probably should rest up your best players to keep them fresh for that one.
Thanks, gettting images up is a real pain but I'll try again
Empty box is only image I can see below.
You may need host a photo externally on an image hosting website to share.
Some of you may remember that a few years ago my wife gave a jigsaw for Christmas...it was a picture of grass.
Now her sadistic streak continues, though at least this time there it's dichrome rather than monochrome
If you don't want to favour either side, I'd suggest that you don't submit any orders. Nothing to do with you, then....
Should I play the exact same lineup in both matches next week?
Feel a bit of pressure in myself.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 48:
Raith Rovers - MVP #5: 25k (WwW)
Fraserburgh - MVP #5: 25k (wwW)
Stranraer - MVP #4: 1 CP (WwD)
Dundee United - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWd)
Match of the season in 15 minutes.
Get yer lineup 48 in mate
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 47:
Rangers - MVP #8: 25k (wWW)
Saint Johnstone - MVP #10: 25k (wWW)
Aberdeen - MVP #5: 25k (WwD)
East Fife - MVP #5: 25k (WdW)
Nairn County - MVP #6: 25k (wWd)
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Jan 28th:
AI(15) ALB(10) ALO(30) COW(50) DUM(10) EF(25) EDI(50) FAL(25) FRA(25) HIB(50) LIV(25) MOT(50) RAN(50) ROS(25) STJ(10) STE(40) SRA(45)
While I do agree that the matches this weekend are huge, I find it unlikely that the title will be decided after this weekend. The only scenarios I can envision things getting wrapped up with two matches to spare are if CEL win both matches (putting them in first with the most straightforward schedule remaining of the top three), or if MOT can build a 4 to 6 point lead (e.g. MOT beat CEL, STJ lose to CLY, and STJ beat CEL while MOT win or draw home to EDI). I think it's more likely that something in the middle happens and 2 or 3 of the clubs are in with a shout at the title during the final weekend.
Double the stake because it's the cup final.
Double the usual winnings.
It's a 50/50 chance - with a free 100k earned if you pick a goalscorer at any point in the 90 minutes.
Poll vote area on main front page if you fancy a flutter before next Wednesday.
Andy Shaw 10.0
Alon Atie 7.0
David Blair 5.5
I am not going to run predictions for the next gameweek as the turnaround time is just too short. But do watch out for the Arsenal/ liverpool match happening on Sunday.
I will place predictions for Gameweek 24 early next week.
Next season I will miss the 6 points David....
er, I mean....
I will miss you - and your HIB team ofcourse.
Us Edinburgh teams need stick together if the Glaswegians think they can dominate SESL long term.
Think again
Not so sure - MOT have difficult games to follow, and CEL play STJ next. Thinking the latter club (and HEA should CEL v MOT end in a draw) might still figure here. Me, my team knows it's future - we are in the 1st round of the CECIL Cup next season. ππππ
Can CEL take a big step towards their FOURTH Div 1 title in a row?
Only Dundee United have dominated like that in SESL. Twice.
DUU Trophy Cabinet
Division 1 Winner: 8 (20 21 22 23 31 32 33 34)
Match 47 | ![]() |
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Division 1 | ||
Celtic vs Motherwell | ||
at Parkhead | ||
Today's Referee is Robin Dewar | ||
His characteristics are Homefield: HOMER and Discipline: LOOSE |
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 46:
ALB(150) COW(150) EDI(100) ELG(150) FAL(150) FRA(150) HIB(100) INV(100) KIL(150) MOT(150) STJ(150) SRA(150)
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through match 46:
ALB(-50) BRE(-50) CB(-50) COW(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) FRA(-50) HAM(-50) HIB(-50) INV(-50) KIL(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) STJ(-50) STE(-50) SRA(-50)
Firstly, I was joking about buffing Ball Control - although any tweaks would be nice.
I played BC at Deveronvale with quite a bit of success a few seasons ago because EC seemed all the rage. And I toyed with it last season and decided to stick with it this.
About a third of SESL teams use EC, some a lot more than others - and a lot have big WGs. Wingers are very powerful, with a 1.45 OFF if you have 4 up front and playing any tactic but EC, and 1.95 OFF if playing EC. Playing 4-2-4 L with 4 SL 28 FWs gives you 140 OFF, 2 FWs and 2 WGs (SL 28) is 151.2 OFF and EC is 165.2 OFF.
BC looks weak at first - if I play 442 N with all equal SL then the total GP/DEF/OFF multipliers is 14.2 (I don't play sweepers). For a 352 BC it's 12.5. But added to N is 10 DEF and 10 OFF for OTF. Depending on average SLs of 28 this is another 0.7 for N making it 14.9 But for BC against 2 MFs this is a total of 65 OFF+DEF taking BC up to 16.5
I worked out my T11 playing 442 N, 433 N, 352 BC and 451 BC against Alon's team that thrashed Celtic (I picked Alon because of the discussion we had a while back but also because I only remember two games from my MSWL days and one was a 4-4 draw with my lowly AK againsthis mighty Gauteng Shooters in a cup group match where I worked out the tactics perfectly - and he plays EC here). I played my GK passive as I normally do and assumed 0.5 morale.
442 is obviously more defensive so gives them and us less shots, but the ratio is best for this at 8.7% to 6.7%, 30% more shots for FRA. 433 N was 33% more shots.
451 BC works out at 37% more but the best of the lot is 352 BC with 12.5% to 10.3% at 21% more shots.
And then I tried marking both wingers, with and without the big FW. Marking the wingers only is slightly better at 6% more shots...TO US - and with the forward as well is 5% more shots to us with the advantage.I prefer the latter as it means that SL 34 FW gets less shots as well.
The advantage is not as good if you don't play EC or don't play with 2 MFs but it's a win if I can make you change your tactcs.
Not only a very impressive achievement to score a 'Maximum' but to see it done by NINE managers is quite amazing in my view.
That must surely be a prediction league record ?
And i thought that i was doing well with 8....and the only game i got wrong was my own LOL
wow
It's a right ding dong at the top with Rangers moving back to joint top after East Fife breaking free by a point last week. East Fife not managing a perfect score. As a consequence Cowdenbeath and Stirling are now a point closer to the top, maintaining hope of a late strong finish.
East Fife do hold a slender advantage, they have a score of 4 from round 3 that is likely to drop off to be replaced by a higher score. Rangers lowest is a 5, whilst Cowdenbeath also have a 4. The Stirling sides will also still have some hope as they both have a 3 to drop off.
Like the actual leagues in SESL it's going down to the wire.
Round 9 is now available on the Notebook
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 8 Winners:
ALB(100) COW(100) EST(100) FAL(100) MOT(100) QP(100) RAN(100) ROS(100) STI(100)
One for the record books this week. As Matt stated in the blog on Saturday, "I see the results going to be interesting this week". he wasn't wrong.
Average score. Last week's cup match had been the highest so far with 6.12 average score. This week it went to another level with 7.56. Since Season 52 the closest score to this was in season 53 when we had an average score of 7.08. So not even that close.... That week we had 3 winners with perfect scores. A reminder, under the rules, any team who get a perfect score get the full 100k.
We had 6 fixtures with over 75% of entries picking the same outcome. All 6 came in as expected.
That left 2 fixtures, Albion Rovers at home to Rangers and Greenock Morton at home to Raith Rovers. The popular choice for both was a home win 67% and 52% respectively. Both home sides won.
So for the first time this season, and possibly ever, there was no shock result. All popular opinion came true. This means Steady Eddie got a perfect 9 points.
So onto our winners. There's a list. All With perfect scores. All winning 100k. Well played.
.......is hardly ever used. Lack of skill and confidence with it are the main sticking points. The SRA Chairman also mentioned that only his good lady should be trusted with this.....
And if it is tweaked, I guess most managers will be in the market for large SL midfielders to change to BC - think I had better start training some MFs up (either to use or to sell them)....π°π°π°
I remember trying to use BC as a tactic for one season many moons ago, looking to play 4-5-1 or 3-5-2 , but I found it very hard to rotate and maintain a midfield of that size. Granted, you didn't need as many defenders or attackers to rotate, but it was still very hard to maintain. Should a tweak in the formula come along though, I would be very interested.
I have actually had a long running debate with Steve on this one with me pushing for BC to be strengthened and Steve (in wanting to be fair to others) resisting. Steve believed that the marking potential of Ball control gave it added strength but that is too easy to counter and just not enough to make it viable in my mind.
I still believe that Ball Controll as it was originally put in the game was fairly balanced in that a team set up for it could get a slight advantage ,which is pretty much how all tactics work.
What did you have in mind ST? Make Ball Control more effective a tactic?
Focus on midfield area (that helps Ball Control) is perhaps viable action as some teams have virtually no MF'ers and focus entirely on big WG players.
I'm all for change if it makes team tactics harder to pre guess. Vast majority maybe play Normal as don't understand all the other team tactics....
... Me included. π€
I think Ball Control could do with buffing a little. 98% of SESL teams feel it is too weak an option and haven't used it yet this season. I think something ought to be done to make it a more viable tactic.
In all seriousness I checked to see if any other team used Ball Control and nobody does apart from Alloa. I've used it 44% of the time, it would be 49% but for a couple of errors: one where I Stalled all game and another where I wanted a change from Stall to Ball Control after 18 minutes. I think both were the first game and I accidentally over-wrote the order with the second game
One final interesting historical bit - unless Motherwell win all four of their remaining matches (unlikely, given they have three away to Celtic, Hearts, and RR), the division 1 title will be won with less than 67 points. That will be the lowest points total for a winner since at least season 39, when David Blair's Clydebank won with 19 wins, 5 draws, and 6 losses (62 pts)
Looking back, Season 49 seems to be the most recent time that all three divisions came down to the wire.
In Division 1, Dave's Hearts topped Stewart's Rangers by a single point. The title decider in this one came in the second to last weekend, when Hearts won a thriller at Rangers by a score of 3-4. Despite a draw to St. Johnstone the last weekend, Hearts still hung on to the title.
In Division 2, Dean's Celtic beat out my Motherwell by two points. I don't have to look at the history to remember this one: in a late-season match between the two, the home side Celtic leveled in the 90th minute to deny Motherwell all three points. That 90th minute equalizer ended up being the title-decider.
In Division 3, Victor's Nairn County edged Bill's Clydebank by two points. The sides went into the final match level on points, but a draw against Steve's Alloa Athletic ended up dropping Clydebank back into second while Nairn County won a tight one at Queens Park by a score of 1-2
The league title races in all three divisions are incredibly close with only four matches to play. First and Second are separated by 1, 0, and 2 points in the first, second, and third divisions. In both the first and second divisions the team in third place also has a reasonable shot of passing the clubs in front of them. Certainly haven't had all three titles up for grabs like this in a while
Steve, you'll find a lot of his DPs would come when I played him on "a" - like most of my DPs. But glad he is helping you - and your lad will play in 3 of my last 4 matches.
PS great tactics today ....
I should have done my homework - just been looking at the Div 2 stats and see he's on 32 DP. Two bookings away from a 4 match ban - I feel robbed :-)
In all seriousness we needed him today- 2 wins against the top 2 teams wouldn't have been possible without him. Thanks again, David.
EPL predictions
Aston Villa 2-1 Newcastle
Fulham 1-3 Everton
Luton Town 1-2 Brighton
Nottingham Forest 1-4 Arsenal
Tottenham 3-0 Brentford
West Ham 4-0 Bournemouth
Wolves 1-2 Man United
Crystal Palace 1-1 Sheffield United
Liverpool 3-1 Chelsea
Man City 5-0 Burnley
Aston Villa 1-1 Newcastle
Fulham 1-1 Everton
Luton Town 1-1 Brighton
Nottingham Forest 1-2 Arsenal
Tottenham 3-1 Brentford
West Ham 2-1 Bournemouth
Wolves 1-0 Man United
Crystal Palace 2-1 Sheffield United
Liverpool 3-1 Chelsea
Man City 4-0 Burnley
I see the results going to be interesting this week
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 45:
Motherwell - MVP #9: 25k (Www)
Alloa Athletic - MVP #5: 25k (wWd)
Clydebank - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wwD)
Airdrieonians FC - MVP #4: 1 CP (wWw)
Forfar Athletic - MVP #5: 25k (WdW)
East Stirlingshire - MVP #1: 1 TP + 25k (WdW)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 44:
Saint Johnstone - MVP #9: 25k (wwW)
Greenock Morton - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Cowdenbeath - MVP #3: 1 TP (WdW)
EPL returns on Tuesday with the soon to be Klopp less Liverpool 5 points clear.
Aston Villa 2 - 1 Newcastle
Fulham 2 - 1 Everton
Luton Town 0 - 2 Brighton
Nottingham Forest 0 - 2 Arsenal
Tottenham 2 - 0 Brentford
West Ham 2 - 1 Bournemouth
Wolves 1 - 2 Man. United
Crystal Palace 2 - 0 Sheffield United
Liverpool 2 - 0 Chelsea
Man. City 3 - 0 Burnley
I am guessing Klopp had more fun (if less money) when in Germany. And he certainly will live longer if he quits the EPL - his blood pressure goes sky high most weeks when he blames VAR for any mistake his team makes. Mind you all EPL managers now actually LOVE VAR, as it is the go-to excuse when their team doesn't win... ("their 5th goal was offside by an inch and it was a doubtful penalty for their 7th goal. But ours was a beauty!!")
OOps - need to go, the men in the white tunics are here for me..!!
Call me a cynic.....
But Real Madrid or Barcelona next season ££££££
Totally staggering.....
Personally, i think there is way too much money involved and as a consequence, managers and even more so, players have no 'loyalty' any more.
Chairmen and owners are every bit as responsible too.
Odd time in season to announce it today?
......how many more Managers from struggling clubs are for the Axe before the end of the season....??
Round 8 is tomorrow
CLY sends Neil Parry (0/17 GK) to KIL for Colin Meldrum (3/31 GK)
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through match 42:
EF(100) HIB(100) MOT(100)
CLY sends 2 CP to INV for 250k
PET sends 130k to CLY for 1 CP
ABE sends 2 CP to INV for 260k
Looking at SRA's resourses, we are very unlikely to come near to exceding the 4K "Robin Hood" limit but we do have two spare TPs in our coffers. Therefore, if any club is looking to offload some cash to avoid losing it to the "Robin Hood" rule then I am willing to sell my two TPs for 1000K each. I know the price is above current market value but I am quite happy to keep my TPs if no club needs to get rid of either 1000K or 2000K.
Reminder Fri 26-Jan-24 TRADE WINDOW CLOSES 23:59 hrs
No more trades until after pre season orders from all teams for season 56 in March.
STJ sends 125k, Steve Davis (5/23 MF) to AI for 4 CP
The following teams receive Physio Boost through Blanco:
SM(-80)
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 43:
ARB(100) CLY(100) CB(100) EF(100) ELG(100) FAL(100) HAM(100) HIB(100) LIV(100) SRA(100)
East Fife wrestle the top spot back from Rangers. The Glasgow side scoring a below average 5 points whilst the Fifers managing 7. That was enough for them to take a 1 point advantage going into the final set of fixtures.
3 teams are 3 points behind and with 3 rounds still to play they will still be confident of being able to make better progress.
However with East Fife having a 4 in their league scores they are in the driving seat.
Round 8 is this Saturday and Notebook entries are open. Best of luck.
Any score queries please inbox me.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 7 Winners:
STJ(200)
It's the big one. Last week's SESL Cup Last 16.The jackpot of 200k up for grabs and whatever you score counts in your final total. No safety net, mess it up, tough!
This round is normally the easiest to predict, producing the highest average score. Given it's a multi division competition with teams possibly having more important league concens then that's no surprise.
This proved to be the case again with an average score of 6.12. For comparison the highest average score in the other rounds was 5.41.
5 of the 8 fixtures had 80% or more of entries correctly predicting the outcome. Motherwell at home to Falkirk being one of them, that fixture was also the most popular banker selection. 48% opting for it.
In terms of shocks the biggest was East Fife winning against Raith Rovers, 84% of entries not seeing that outcome.
Steady Eddie for the first time technicaly ended up scoring below average, obtaining 6 points versus the 6.12.
Now onto the winner, and there was only 1. A very decent takeaway considering the 200k pot.
A fine performance, classic winning mix of picking an outside winner and also a sneaky draw. Only Dundee United upsetting Hibs prevents a perfect score. Well played St. Johnstone. 200k on it's way.
STJ sends 200k to RAN for 2 TP
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through match 43:
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) ARB(-50) BRE(-50) CLY(-50) CB(-50) COW(-50) EF(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) HAM(-50) HIB(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) STJ(-50) STE(-50) SRA(-50)
Now open for entries on the Notebook
SESL Cup Last 16 Results will be posted tomorrow. Minus the late entries......
I managed to survive storm Isha and severe rail network disruption to get myself back home by late last night before the next storm hits.
Looking at RAN's resourses, we are very unlikely to come near to exceding the 4K "Robin Hood" limit but we do have two spare TPs in our coffers. Therefore, if any club is looking to offload some cash to avoid losing it to the "Robin Hood" rule then I am willing to sell my two TPs for 100K each. I know the price is above current market value but I am quite happy to keep my TPs if no club needs to get rid of either 100K or 200K.
SRA sends 85k to ELG for 1 TP
The following teams receive Participation Bonus through Participation Thru Jan 21st:
ALB(30) ALO(35) ARB(10) BRE(20) CLY(35) COW(50) EF(50) EDI(30) FAL(15) FRA(10) HEA(45) HIB(50) LIV(40) MOT(50) PET(20) QP(20) RR(35) RAN(50) ROS(25) STJ(10) SM(5) STI(30) SRA(10)
HIB sends 1200k, 10 TP to KIL for Freddie Milloy (1/22 DF), David Bagan (1/24 WG)
BRE sends 125k to MOT for Willie Nelson (5/15 WG)
SRA sends Lyanna Mormont (3/14 WG) to BRE for 240k
ABE sends 4 CP to HIB for 500k
I don't think you are alone in noticing that John and certainly worth highlighting. Somewhat strange to say the least.
Elsewhere...the late season accumulation of DPs are now starting to take effect on some teams and no doubt tired bodies will soon start to see the usual collection of 'Serious' injuries ruin a few teams late season hopes.
GL folks.
Two entries after the games played.
Clever not to make it too obvious and still get so many wrong π€£
Unless David is going to put away his Party shoes in the tail end of the season I reckon with gate receipts and just one Div Review he'll break through the 4000 ceiling.
Should Stirling unfortunately finish it the bottom 4 we would like to thank Steve for his 25k contribution...
David's the clever one - he suggested the trade, the 100k was my idea.
The trade was actually a SL39 DF + 100k for the SL29 DF. I think we both get something there.. Hope he helps you out at Alloa..
Steve and I can't fault your logic and conclusion, right Steve? ππ
First thought- what a nonsense of a trade today.
Ah.
Then penny dropped.
One player is injured going to a team that almost already stated going thru the motions this season, to a team in a great spot to still make promotion.
Two clever managers.
NAI sends 2 CP to HIB for 260k
ALO sends 100k, Patrick Cunningham (2/30 DF) to HIB for John Fraser (2/29 DF)
Agree with AFG - Div 3 reviews worth a look, and next couple of weeks could be fascinating.
Top 2 teams played out an 8 goal battle yesterday.
And AYR had a slow start in the league losing most away games, but worth noting AYR have beaten the top 2 teams AI & STE every time they've met this season.
Feb 3rd is AYR v STE. Don't miss it.
...are up! Thanks for letting me sub in for the weekend, Stewart. I always love reviewing Div 3 as I did for a while over a year back.
For those who haven't been following, that division has quite the race for the title and promotion spots. Should be a cracking last few weekends over there! Give the matches and reviews an eye in the coming weekends if you have some time to spare.
Ah, I see. I was quite a large baby I believe so perhaps my parents were planning to call me Pau
Apparently it was because he was a big baby at birth over 10tbs so his parents added an extra X for x large
Probably a spelling error by the registrar on his birth certificate, then?
Maxx Crosby not a spelling error. Plays for my favourite American Football Team las Vegas Raiders at DE
Magic sponge for Blanco please.
Not sure of the rules but can I have a Magic Sponge on Patrick Cunningham please.
I have a feeling it's -8 or worse which makes my EL management unfortunate as I could easily have played him longer in the first game and he'd be at -8 now.
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 42:
Motherwell - MVP #8: 25k (WwW)
Cove Rangers - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (WwW)
Stranraer - MVP #3: 1 TP (WWw)
Livingston - MVP #8: 25k (Wwd)
Stenhousemuir - MVP #5: 25k (Wdw)
Peterhead - MVP #5: 25k (wWw)
Kilmarnock - MVP #2: 1 TP + 25k (wWw)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 41:
Inverness - MVP #6: 25k (DwW)
Dumbarton - MVP #6: 25k (dWw)
Airdrieonians FC - MVP #3: 1 TP (DwW)
Dundee United - MVP #3: 1 TP (Dww)
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through adjustment :
ALB(-50) ARB(50)
I predicted Ian Ferguson as anytime scorer for the CLY-RAN SESL Cup match, plus RAN winning, so should have received 150K in winnings rather than the 100K I was awarded.
Of course reminds me that we wouldn't make him captain til we treated him at least like an Age 5 player
The blues made a swift statement to say after the embarassing u-turn in morales he showed after his great supposed allied-ship with human rights, that he wouldn't be made captain if he wished to join on a free.
Manager Williams said "2/28 deserves a lot of respect, but if he won't respect others then we have to treat him like a 4/22 at best".
Statement
LIV have moved quickly to confirm 2/28 MF Jordan Henderson is not for sale in this transfer window.
end.
CLY sends 1 CP to INV for 130k
To misqouote Mrs Merton "What first attracted you Mr Henderson and Mr Gerrard to the multi million pound Saudi League."
Jordan Henderson I think is a probably a reasonable guy and made a (bad) decision based on setting him and his family up for life. The reality of it is that it wasn't bearable and he has quit, after damaging his reputation and image. Good article in the Guradian on this. https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2024/jan/17/jordan-henderson-has-badly-damaged-his-image-and-that-of-the-saudi-pro-league
And who here wouldn't do the same for eye-watering sums. Once the SAESL league starts up and offers silly money to join I am outta here.
What a strange thing the Saudi football league is.
Jordan Henderson reputation is spoiled going there.
LGBTQ+x=c2 community will not forgive him going to a country that kills such people.
On same day Steven Gerrard signs two-year extension to stay as head coach of Henderson's former side Al-Ettifaq until year 2027.
Has Gerrard won a game in Saudi yet?
Playing in front of just 5,000 fans cannot be fulfilling for Gerrard.
Strange decision.
Seeking an older GK from you, with a wad of resources and/or cash also.
Willing to take a loss as I honoured a trade deal with a resourceful Div 3 manager even though I won another age 0 GK at auction.
Age 0 GK's can't win sesl cups sadly.
No time wasters. Serious bids only invited.
December 10, 2023
HEA sends 3 TP to FRA for 260k
Rangers & East Fife remain in the prime positions, the only significant mover was Cowdenbeath who jumped 4 spots with their solitary win.
It's all very tight, the all important cup round will be added Monday. After that we'll have a much better idea of who's favourites as we enter the final round of fixtures.
The following teams receive Prediction League through Round 6 Winners:
COW(100)
First of all apologies, was on holiday for 2 weeks there so Prediction League results haven't flowed as well as they might have.
So a reminder round 6 was on the 6th January, match 35 and featured Division 3 teams.
Stats
In terms of average score Round 6 was somewhere in the middle with 4.72. 5 Fixtures had selections with 75% or more backing them. 3 of those went to plan
100% of prediction backed Stenhousemuir at home to Deveronvale. The favourites took a 2 goal lead by 29th minute but Dev stunned the hosts and bounced back with 2 goals to draw. Early Cross against a weak 2nd half defence done the job though Ste must feel hard done by,
Queens Park versus Ayr delivered another shock, 80% backed an away win but Queens Park got the home win. Only 8% predicted that result. Looks like Ayr were saving their top team for another time and Queens took advantage.
Banker Airdrie at home to East Stirlingshire was the most popular pick, with 36% opting for that fixture. The afore mentioned Ste v DEv fixture was closely behind with 32% going for that. A real points killer.
Steady Eddie: Selecting the most popular picks and banker would have resulted in you getting 6 points.
Winners: Cowdenbeath were the lucky winners with a nice 7. the 2 shock results enough to prevent a perfect score. I'd love to say that was down to skill but given I was on holiday at the time it's probably the least amount of time reviewing the fixtures that I've done this year... Says it all maybe.
I think Dave's view on the Robin Hood rule is pretty spot on
The teams in Div 3 aren't trying to finish at the bottom and the split award last season was 139k each over 4 teams. Less than half of one weeks front page review.
The debate seems to come up each year from just 1 or 2 managers who go over budget, although I do get where Matt is coming from when it comes to the end of season awards. It's not always a guarantee that a team will get a bonus until the end of season. But a team close to the 4000 should still take that into account.
My own opinion is that there isn't enough cash trading from teams with bigger budgets to the lower divisions.. Trades tend to involve a bit of cash and age 4 players. Although teams can be reluctant to part with a player seen as key in rebuilding. Hibs age 0 keeper offers were a good example. But looking at recent big money transfers most seem to involve Div 1 teams trading with each other. (but then you might expect that as I feel it's one of the qualities that make a good Div 1 manager - trading)
A morale bonus of 0.3 is worth 13.5k per match for between 499k and 688k over a season. It's mostly Division One teams that get that bonus. Division One teams get 750k from.the 25k bonus.
Motherwell are currently getting 51k bonus (compared to an average lower Div team) with their 0.84 morale and 0.24 bonus and 25k Div 1 bonus. How can Div 2 and Div 3 teams compete with that?
CB sends 4 TP to SRA for 311k
The following teams receive Betting cup match winning through match 40:
ALB(150) ANN(100) ARB(100) BRE(50) CB(50) COW(100) EF(150) EDI(150) ELG(150) FAL(100) FRA(100) HIB(100) INV(100) MOT(100) NAI(150) STJ(150) STE(100) SRA(100)
There has to be an incentive to get to Div 1 where I think 25k is added to gate receipts. Hardly a huge amount.
The example by James RR below is good - but I believe this is largely down to the morale of team at top of league, compared to team at foot of Div 3.
CEL morale is 9 (NINE) times as high as STI. CEL 0.77 + 0.3 bonus, while STI is 0.12.
I'd cut morale bonus back a bit.
Meanwhile CLY were last in Div 1 way back in season 23!! What was their incentive to even try progress up the divisions?
Without the 25k gate receipt bonus, what is to stop a team sitting in Div 3 forever and just play Top 11 players in all the cup games? There ought be a tangeable benefit from promoting thru the divisions. 25k is equivalent to a free coaching or training slot, so it's not huge and the reason for rich or poor teams..
Why did previous CLY manager Phil McIntosh mostly struggle for 20 years?
45 seasons out of 50 not in Div 1?
Any team stuck in Div 3 more than 5 years is doing something fundamentally wrong themselves.
That is not SESL's fault.
I agree, and we can't blame anybody - he played the full game but drew a blank...
Betting a mugs game :-)
The following teams receive an MVP bonus after match 40:
East Fife - MVP #4: 1 CP (wwW)
Totally against giving cash to the 'Poorest' teams.
There are two teams that are currently sitting 3rd and 4th in Division 1 but are also currently the two poorest teams in the entire league.
Really not sure that would sit well with many managers that do manage 'ALL' aspects of their clubs.
I personally favour any excess over 4000k simply being taken out of the game.
The following teams receive Division FrontPage Review through 3 weeks to match 39:
EF(300) HIB(300) RAN(300)
The following teams receive Betting on cup match through match 40:
ALB(-50) ANN(-50) ARB(-50) BRE(-50) CLY(-50) CB(-50) COW(-50) EF(-50) EDI(-50) ELG(-50) FAL(-50) FRA(-50) HAM(-50) HEA(-50) HIB(-50) INV(-50) LIV(-50) MOT(-50) NAI(-50) STJ(-50) STE(-50) SRA(-50)
I think Paul's suggestion is a good one. A variable ramping tax, with the proceeds going out of the game.
The real issue though is the gate receipt discrepancy between the top teams and the bottom teams. Stirling currently 48th, have 1951K in gate receipts. Celtic, 1st, have 3722K. Just 52%. and Stirling have accrued just 62% of the gate of middling (at best) division 1 side Raith. This is where I believe we should look to equalise things.
Interesting taxation idea.
Interesting to just "lose" funds. But may need a new name for it then!
Apparently from Wiki: "Robin Hood was a philanthropist who robbed the rich to give to the poor. It was the Scottish historian John Major who in 1521 wrote that “[Robin] permitted no harm to women, nor seized the goods of the poor, but helped them generously with what he took."
Other theories is he robbed from the Government, so taxation would be the opposite of this.
a poll vote may see some Div 1 teams voting to scrap rule,
while Div 3 teams may welcome Robin Hood as it is.
Rule should be for the benefit of Sesl as a whole, and not because HIB or EF or whoever want their own team to amass excess funds for rebuilding.
What is best for competitiveness in the league as a whole.
If the rich are getting richer and dominating, then that not good for game as a whole.
However a glance at Div 1 winners for example shows 10 different teams have won Div 1 in last 17 years.
Only DUU have dominated on 2 occassions winning 4 Div 1 titles in a row, before sliding.
This comes up regularly as season come to a close - people with no cash want it, people with highest cash want it kept. I gave up a lot last season but it only serve to make me pay a lot more attention to my bank balance throughout the season - not a bad thing.
I think I'd prefer it if it was kept that excess went to nobody. Teams could spend cash on resources or duff players and sit back knowing cash was coming - NOT saying anybody is, but if excess cash went nowhere, it is a problem that wouldn't arrive.
I would keep Robin Hood -first division teams could amass big cash third division teams could only dream about - the extra gate monies alone gives them an edge. PS why not a sliding scale for the 2nd division -say 15% extra gate cash???
And this does mean lots of us can earn participation cash ....π°π°
I don't see the objection to allowing teams to stockpile cash. It would seem to me to add another dimension to the game and I don't think that stockpilers would gain a clear advantage over others.
Agree with Steve T.
To avoid benefactors stock piling cash, the excess could go to teams with lowest bank account at the time, rather than teams with lowest league position.
.......despite the usual price drop at this time of the season SRA are still offering around $75-80 per TP......
4000k is plenty - 3000k gets you 50 CP with plenty left over for the first auctions. I certainly don't want to see teams stockpiling cash.
I'm OK with a variable taxation but not as low as 3000k.
The thing I most disagree with is giving the money to the lowest team(s) who might have saved cash anyway for rebuilding - but it's been here for as long as I remember. However I prefer Sanc's 100% taxation that goes to nobody or United's 10% taxation that also goes to nobody.
.....of course he's broke.....got caught breaking into a Music shop the other day looking for the lute......
It's broke
If it ain't broke why fix it?
AI sends 2 CP to CB for Ally McCoist (4/19 FW)